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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

WHAT A RIDICULOUS STATEMENT.

#TRYING TO CONTROVVERSAL JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT.

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

No, and this is from someone who has been held at gun point.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is this a wind up?

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By *hrista BellendWoman over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

No at all. I carry a farb gel spray which is sold on the police websites, it takes 7 days to wash off any perpetrators skin and clothes.

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By *tstillworksMan over a year ago

Darlington

"Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time? "

What if they became disarmed from the firearm so the woman is now not armed but the person who wants to harm her is now armed with a firearm ?

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"No at all. I carry a farb gel spray which is sold on the police websites, it takes 7 days to wash off any perpetrators skin and clothes. "

Do you look at any police force website?

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By *etcplCouple over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

"Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time? "

How do you limit the firearm to only being usable by women?

Plenty of criminals get firearms by stealing them from legitimate owners.

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By *hrista BellendWoman over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"No at all. I carry a farb gel spray which is sold on the police websites, it takes 7 days to wash off any perpetrators skin and clothes.

Do you look at any police force website? "

I only look at hampshire

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"No at all. I carry a farb gel spray which is sold on the police websites, it takes 7 days to wash off any perpetrators skin and clothes.

Do you look at any police force website?

I only look at hampshire "

Thank you, going to have a look into it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Absolutely Not!

If I can't overpower him without a gun, who's to say he won't take my gun and shoot me with it?

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"No at all. I carry a farb gel spray which is sold on the police websites, it takes 7 days to wash off any perpetrators skin and clothes.

Do you look at any police force website?

I only look at hampshire

Thank you, going to have a look into it. "

https://youtu.be/T2JvOX_9S7g

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By *il sub princessWoman over a year ago

West Midlands

I'm not responsible enough

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

All the stray bullets flying around no one would be safe.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

On paper the gap between men and women in terms of the amount of force they can bring to a situation should be lessened by everyone carrying firearms. In reality, on average men are largely object orientated and far more interested in "playing" with guns and would likely have spent far more hours at the range training and preparing to use the firearm. Particularly if you planned to use your firearm for nefarious means.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What a silly thing to say, all firearms should be destroyed and has no place in a safe society

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By *uliaChrisCouple over a year ago

westerham

Fun fact, in America, 70% of all firearms injuries are accidental.

Eg shooting themselves or others

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No. I would not feel safer.

I used to carry pepper spray back home. It can go badly too if they snatch it from you.

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By *asmeenTV/TS over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"WHAT A RIDICULOUS STATEMENT.

#TRYING TO CONTROVVERSAL JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT. "

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By *oncupiscence73Woman over a year ago

South

"Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time? "

Nope guns shouldn’t be allowed by anyone

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By *tephTV67TV/TS over a year ago

Cheshire

I suppose this thread was bound to be started by someone eventually.

No it’s a stupid idea, just like the Republicans in the US that think arming Teachers will stop school shootings.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple over a year ago

Broadstairs

"Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time?

Nope guns shouldn’t be allowed by anyone "
What even the police ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Absolutely not. I’m very grateful that no one is allowed to carry a gun here in the uk. I can’t imagine anything more terrifying.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time? "

Is that a serious question, we live in what is supposedly a equal democracy, to allow women to carry a firearm, then the government would have to pass a law to allow all to carry a fireman,

So hypothetical question if women could carry a firearm!! What's to stop her turning it on innocent ppl, if they are that way inclined...

It's all about how we as a United society stand up and challenge the behaviour of the few, not allowing it and not accepting of it....comes down to "United we stand, divided we fall" we need to be a more united society to affect positive change

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh good god.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

No. However, is it time to treat men like the dogs they can be? Chip them and track them. Neuter them on first offence. Put them down on repeated offence.

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By *parkle1974Woman over a year ago

Leeds

No.

I wouldn't feel any safer carrying a weapon of any sort.

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By *acDreamyMan over a year ago

Wirral

No one should carry a gun unless they are going to be able to deal with the consequences of killing someone. Specialist armed police, soldiers in combat etc.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple over a year ago

Broadstairs

"Absolutely not. I’m very grateful that no one is allowed to carry a gun here in the uk. I can’t imagine anything more terrifying. "
Plenty of police carry Guns have you not been to an airport ?

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By *luebellRacerCouple over a year ago

Shropshire

Copied my reply to another post:

You don't fight fire with fire, you douse it with water to put it out or prevent it in the first place.

Everyone needs to treat others how thet wish to be treated. Is it really that hard to be a decent human being!?!

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By *oncupiscence73Woman over a year ago

South

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By *oncupiscence73Woman over a year ago

South

"No. However, is it time to treat men like the dogs they can be? Chip them and track them. Neuter them on first offence. Put them down on repeated offence."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Fun fact, in America, 70% of all firearms injuries are accidental.

Eg shooting themselves or others "

Is that outside of the school and church slaughters? Or 50 a week deaths in Chicago?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Here mine saved my butt 2 times already. But the situation there in the UK it totally different. The UK is not a gun culture that is fine. But prefer to carry mine as our cultures are totally different.

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By *eorge JetsonMan over a year ago

Middlesbrough

"No one should carry a gun unless they are going to be able to deal with the consequences of killing someone. Specialist armed police, soldiers in combat etc.

Excellent point.

One of our senior staff where I work is 30 years former police.

From pc to retirement and has the legitimate backup to prove his stories in the elite firearm unit (name obviously not allowed but you'll know where to look for it) the training required for it is intensely difficult for obvious reasons and the LAST thing you learn is how to fire a weapon. The man himself says constantly firearms should be banned cos the consequences after you've made that call are irreversible and devastating (I'm assuming he's actually got that unfortunate experience)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one should carry a gun unless they are going to be able to deal with the consequences of killing someone. Specialist armed police, soldiers in combat etc.

Excellent point.

One of our senior staff where I work is 30 years former police.

Exactly training on when you should use lethal force. It just people in the UK think it's the wild wild West over here. It's criminals doing the majority of the murders not law biding ones.

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By *uliaChrisCouple over a year ago

westerham

"Fun fact, in America, 70% of all firearms injuries are accidental.

Eg shooting themselves or others

Is that outside of the school and church slaughters? Or 50 a week deaths in Chicago?"

Nope, including all deliberate murders etc.

Most gun discharges resulting in injury in America are gun owners accidentally shooting themselves, family members etc. Also a large number of suicides of course.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Fun fact, in America, 70% of all firearms injuries are accidental.

Eg shooting themselves or others

Is that outside of the school and church slaughters? Or 50 a week deaths in Chicago?

Nope, including all deliberate murders etc.

Most gun discharges resulting in injury in America are gun owners accidentally shooting themselves, family members etc. Also a large number of suicides of course. "

Improperly trained. I am all for legislation requirements to have a proper safety courses and mental exam before purchasing one. They just introduce new legislation that I am all for.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can't.fight fire with fire

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By *ad NannaWoman over a year ago

East London

Great! Put me down for a Kalashnikov RPL-20 please.

Are we allowed grenades too?

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By *ad NannaWoman over a year ago

East London

So, that's martial arts training and firearms training I need to do.

Is there anything else while I'm booking courses?

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By *killsMan over a year ago

Never Never Land

So to put the cat amongst the pigeons.

How are you going to determine who is a woman? You are effectively saying that LGBTQ+ have no rights to identify as they want and must go back to the archaic birth gender.

This belief that all men are perpetrators is ridiculous and is pure scare mongering. If you tell children dogs are dangerous they will naturally be scared of them. I’ve been attacked by more cats than I have dogs. I’m terrified of lions but I’ve never been attacked by one.

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By *ickychef1Man over a year ago

Greenford

A can of deep heat spray....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So to put the cat amongst the pigeons.

How are you going to determine who is a woman? You are effectively saying that LGBTQ+ have no rights to identify as they want and must go back to the archaic birth gender.

Isn't it everyone's inherent right to protect themselves against bodily harm ? Gender and sexual preference included ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time? "

Have you been on the road during the school run ? Having a driving licence for some is enough not alone firearms

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By *killsMan over a year ago

Never Never Land

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

A gun is no different to any other tool. A hammer is dangerous in the wrong hands. I am not saying give women a machine gun but a single or double shooter would make some men think twice..

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By *killsMan over a year ago

Never Never Land

"So to put the cat amongst the pigeons.

How are you going to determine who is a woman? You are effectively saying that LGBTQ+ have no rights to identify as they want and must go back to the archaic birth gender.

Isn't it everyone's inherent right to protect themselves against bodily harm ? Gender and sexual preference included ?"

Of course it is and that is the point of my post.

Why should only women be allowed to carry guns? Why should everyone else be excluded from protecting themselves?

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By *abs..Woman over a year ago

Definitely not.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"So to put the cat amongst the pigeons.

How are you going to determine who is a woman? You are effectively saying that LGBTQ+ have no rights to identify as they want and must go back to the archaic birth gender.

Isn't it everyone's inherent right to protect themselves against bodily harm ? Gender and sexual preference included ?

Of course it is and that is the point of my post.

Why should only women be allowed to carry guns? Why should everyone else be excluded from protecting themselves?"

Because women are more vulnerable walking home at night

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By *a LunaWoman over a year ago

South Wales

What about the 3.8% of men (786,000*) who suffer domestic violence at the hands of women?

* as at 2019 - figures from Crime Survey for England and Wales

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"So, that's martial arts training and firearms training I need to do.

Is there anything else while I'm booking courses?

Safeguarding Level 3 for Children and Vulnerable Adults

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"What about the 3.8% of men (786,000*) who suffer domestic violence at the hands of women?

* as at 2019 - figures from Crime Survey for England and Wales"

This is not about domestic violence it's about walking home late at night on your own

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By *entleman_spyMan over a year ago

nearby

"Absolutely not. I’m very grateful that no one is allowed to carry a gun here in the uk. I can’t imagine anything more terrifying. "

This is incorrect ... section 5 licence ..

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By *entleman_spyMan over a year ago

nearby

"Great! Put me down for a Kalashnikov RPL-20 please.

Are we allowed grenades too?"

I’m in love

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Great! Put me down for a Kalashnikov RPL-20 please.

Are we allowed grenades too?

I’m in love

Lol say hello to my little friend

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

I'd feel safe if women were allowed to carry firearms. I mean, they can't park their cars let alone hit a target

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'd feel safe if women were allowed to carry firearms. I mean, they can't park their cars let alone hit a target

take cover , in coming

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"I'd feel safe if women were allowed to carry firearms. I mean, they can't park their cars let alone hit a target

As a man who's parking is abysmal..I cant agree.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So to put the cat amongst the pigeons.

How are you going to determine who is a woman? You are effectively saying that LGBTQ+ have no rights to identify as they want and must go back to the archaic birth gender.

Isn't it everyone's inherent right to protect themselves against bodily harm ? Gender and sexual preference included ?

Of course it is and that is the point of my post.

Why should only women be allowed to carry guns? Why should everyone else be excluded from protecting themselves?"

You well aware I am in the states and everyone has that right if they choose to or not.It is a slippery slope grant it. I have different circumstances here compared to there. Pretty much everday life for me. It's not sad appalling that I have to carry it's just I choose to. What choices do women there have except evading a incoming threat. It's not fair to them to have to be constantly looking around and Wondering if and when.

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By *opsy RogersWoman over a year ago

London

"Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time? "

What do you suggest the reaction should be for every sneaky grope, lewd comment, objectification and those times when women are made to feel so unsafe, we laugh with the man that's doing it?

Shoot them in the bollocks?

I know you like to troll but you've gone too far this time.

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By *a LunaWoman over a year ago

South Wales

"What about the 3.8% of men (786,000*) who suffer domestic violence at the hands of women?

* as at 2019 - figures from Crime Survey for England and Wales

This is not about domestic violence it's about walking home late at night on your own"

Do they have a gun drop box then? Carry a gun around for “safety” and then lock it away so they’re not tempted to use it on their partners?

To intimidate? That sort of thing?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is this a wind up? "
.yes, it has to be.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I'd feel safe if women were allowed to carry firearms. I mean, they can't park their cars let alone hit a target

As a man who's parking is abysmal..I cant agree.

It's that old East German Trabant that you drive Lionel.. the brakes were never good on those..

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By *imbobaMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"No. However, is it time to treat men like the dogs they can be? Chip them and track them. Neuter them on first offence. Put them down on repeated offence."

Only after I’ve had a belly rub and treat.

Yes. Totally contemptuous response to the threads question.

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By *otSoPoshWoman over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

I'm not speaking for every woman, but personally I wouldn't feel safer if women could arm themselves with a firearm, for many reasons. Among them...

Too many accidents happen with guns.

You start with women and end up with everyone.

Some women wouldn't use it just for protection against a perceived threat.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

At what age would you get a gun.

Happy 18th birthday here is a bottle of wine and a gun.

I think not x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How about we just teach our children a sense of respect for others?

That it is not ok to stalk, touch, r*pe, or murder another human being?

Teach them the value of consent!

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"I'd feel safe if women were allowed to carry firearms. I mean, they can't park their cars let alone hit a target

As a man who's parking is abysmal..I cant agree.

It's that old East German Trabant that you drive Lionel.. the brakes were never good on those.."

Nah I'm just shite at parking.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I'd feel safe if women were allowed to carry firearms. I mean, they can't park their cars let alone hit a target

As a man who's parking is abysmal..I cant agree.

It's that old East German Trabant that you drive Lionel.. the brakes were never good on those.. but hey. That's communism for you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They have just arrested a guy at our local garage. he filled a can up with petrol and the lit a cigerret. His arm caught fire and was arrested for having a firearm....

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By *iscean_dreamMan over a year ago

Llanelli

Pepper spray maybe but definitely not guns

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"How about we just teach our children a sense of respect for others?

That it is not ok to stalk, touch, r*pe, or murder another human being?

Teach them the value of consent!"

Well who does most of the parenting and what values are they teaching their sons?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How about we just teach our children a sense of respect for others?

That it is not ok to stalk, touch, r*pe, or murder another human being?

Teach them the value of consent!

Well who does most of the parenting and what values are they teaching their sons?"

Pretty sure they’re not teaching their kids to murder

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How about we just teach our children a sense of respect for others?

That it is not ok to stalk, touch, r*pe, or murder another human being?

Teach them the value of consent!

Well who does most of the parenting and what values are they teaching their sons?"

Actually you’re comment could be taken many ways... I would presume that you’re not saying it comes back to mothers and it’s all our fault?!?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"How about we just teach our children a sense of respect for others?

That it is not ok to stalk, touch, r*pe, or murder another human being?

Teach them the value of consent!"

Mentioned that in another thread.

It should be about education.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How about we just teach our children a sense of respect for others?

That it is not ok to stalk, touch, r*pe, or murder another human being?

Teach them the value of consent!

Mentioned that in another thread.

It should be about education. "

Both are countries are melting pots. What one culture deems ok twords women and the other deems not ok education does not go far sometimes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How about we just teach our children a sense of respect for others?

That it is not ok to stalk, touch, r*pe, or murder another human being?

Teach them the value of consent!

Mentioned that in another thread.

It should be about education.

Both are countries are melting pots. What one culture deems ok twords women and the other deems not ok education does not go far sometimes."

Can you explain this more clearly please?

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By *ad NannaWoman over a year ago

East London

"I'd feel safe if women were allowed to carry firearms. I mean, they can't park their cars let alone hit a target

I challenge you to a parking contest

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

No civilian should have a gun in this country. However, I do think that pepper spray should be legalised for personal protection

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No civilian should have a gun in this country. However, I do think that pepper spray should be legalised for personal protection "

I agree with 100% that is your culture. It's a good solution.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

A gun does not have to be fired. It can be worn as a deterrent.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How about we just teach our children a sense of respect for others?

That it is not ok to stalk, touch, r*pe, or murder another human being?

Teach them the value of consent!

Mentioned that in another thread.

It should be about education.

Both are countries are melting pots. What one culture deems ok twords women and the other deems not ok education does not go far sometimes.

Can you explain this more clearly please?"

Redneck men here idk what the term is there. Very agressive if the do not get thier way. Same with big cities some men do not understand what no means. Same with different religions woman has no say. Sports video games music ect ect ect..

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"No, and this is from someone who has been held at gun point. "

What happened?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A gun does not have to be fired. It can be worn as a deterrent. "
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Pulled mine twice it worked never shot it.

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"No, and this is from someone who has been held at gun point.

What happened?"

Not going to go there today. But it was traumatic and something that will live with me for the rest of my days.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"No, and this is from someone who has been held at gun point.

What happened?

Not going to go there today. But it was traumatic and something that will live with me for the rest of my days. "

Blimey ! Sorry to hear that..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

When we were teenagers we used to carry a lighter and a can of Charlie red deodorant whenever we were walking home at night. I remember these boys in a white Vauxhall Nova were following me and my friend in the dark about 10pm we were 15 and they stopped by us and were asking us to get in the car. My friend shit herself and I got my can of deodorant out and the lighter, sprayed it and lit it so I hand a hand held flame thrower and told them to fuck off before I melted their faces off. They sped off.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"When we were teenagers we used to carry a lighter and a can of Charlie red deodorant whenever we were walking home at night. I remember these boys in a white Vauxhall Nova were following me and my friend in the dark about 10pm we were 15 and they stopped by us and were asking us to get in the car. My friend shit herself and I got my can of deodorant out and the lighter, sprayed it and lit it so I hand a hand held flame thrower and told them to fuck off before I melted their faces off. They sped off.

Blimey! Isn't that dangerous ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Blimey! Isn't that dangerous ?"

Well it would be if it made contact with anyone.

It was just known that us girls always had the deodorant and lighters. Whenever we needed to make a fire the boys (that we hung round with) always left the fire making to us.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Blimey! Isn't that dangerous ?"

Probably Tom, but perhaps less so than arming half the population..

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By *ud and BryanCouple over a year ago

Boston, Lincolnshire

Any weapon you're not proficient with is your enemy's weapon, so definitely not. It takes training and experience to be able to use a weapon - including a firearm.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'd feel safe if women were allowed to carry firearms. I mean, they can't park their cars let alone hit a target

As a man who's parking is abysmal..I cant agree.

It's that old East German Trabant that you drive Lionel.. the brakes were never good on those.."

Not going to lie that made me laugh

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"WHAT A RIDICULOUS STATEMENT.

#TRYING TO CONTROVVERSAL JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT. "

What here? On fab? In the forum? Noooo, I don't believe it. !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Any weapon you're not proficient with is your enemy's weapon, so definitely not. It takes training and experience to be able to use a weapon - including a firearm. "

So what if a woman can be trained to use one proficiently would you change your mind ?

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By *iscean_dreamMan over a year ago

Llanelli

Blimey! Isn't that dangerous ?

Well it would be if it made contact with anyone.

It was just known that us girls always had the deodorant and lighters. Whenever we needed to make a fire the boys (that we hung round with) always left the fire making to us. "

The deodorant flame throwers work really well, multi use

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Any weapon you're not proficient with is your enemy's weapon, so definitely not. It takes training and experience to be able to use a weapon - including a firearm.

So what if a woman can be trained to use one proficiently would you change your mind ?"

I think if you blow someone away for wanking on a train you may end up in clink tbf.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Any weapon you're not proficient with is your enemy's weapon, so definitely not. It takes training and experience to be able to use a weapon - including a firearm.

So what if a woman can be trained to use one proficiently would you change your mind ?

I think if you blow someone away for wanking on a train you may end up in clink tbf."

If you wanking on a train there is a mental issue. What is wrong just raising my shirt to show I am armed. I do not have to "blow" someone away for wanking. But pretty sure the self gratification will cease. You act like I am out here take shots at everyone and everything.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Any weapon you're not proficient with is your enemy's weapon, so definitely not. It takes training and experience to be able to use a weapon - including a firearm.

So what if a woman can be trained to use one proficiently would you change your mind ?

I think if you blow someone away for wanking on a train you may end up in clink tbf.

So .if you are a woman and you see a man wanking opposite you.. the solution is to show them your gun?

I'm really not but there is a completely different culture over here and the answer to everything ismt.. carry a gun.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Any weapon you're not proficient with is your enemy's weapon, so definitely not. It takes training and experience to be able to use a weapon - including a firearm.

So what if a woman can be trained to use one proficiently would you change your mind ?

I think if you blow someone away for wanking on a train you may end up in clink tbf.

So .if you are a woman and you see a man wanking opposite you.. the solution is to show them your gun?

I'm really not but there is a completely different culture over here and the answer to everything ismt.. carry a gun."

You can leave my guns out the equation that's me personally. But the use of non lethal mace on your manbits would be just as effective don't you think ?

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Any weapon you're not proficient with is your enemy's weapon, so definitely not. It takes training and experience to be able to use a weapon - including a firearm.

So what if a woman can be trained to use one proficiently would you change your mind ?

I think if you blow someone away for wanking on a train you may end up in clink tbf.

So .if you are a woman and you see a man wanking opposite you.. the solution is to show them your gun?

I'm really not but there is a completely different culture over here and the answer to everything ismt.. carry a gun."

I think a lone female, late at night in a train carriage would be perfectly entitled just to show a holstered six shooter. That would make him think twice before shooting.

I saw a CCTV film from Kentucky where exactly the same thing happened and the lone female took out a gun and said she was going to shoot his balls off. The man yelled, Give Me A Chance...

Ok said the woman.. Before I shoot, Swing Them..

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Any weapon you're not proficient with is your enemy's weapon, so definitely not. It takes training and experience to be able to use a weapon - including a firearm.

So what if a woman can be trained to use one proficiently would you change your mind ?

I think if you blow someone away for wanking on a train you may end up in clink tbf.

So .if you are a woman and you see a man wanking opposite you.. the solution is to show them your gun?

I'm really not but there is a completely different culture over here and the answer to everything ismt.. carry a gun.

You can leave my guns out the equation that's me personally. But the use of non lethal mace on your manbits would be just as effective don't you think ?"

Mace is obviously a lot safer

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By *entleman_spyMan over a year ago

nearby

To be fair I’d slot him ...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Any weapon you're not proficient with is your enemy's weapon, so definitely not. It takes training and experience to be able to use a weapon - including a firearm.

So what if a woman can be trained to use one proficiently would you change your mind ?

I think if you blow someone away for wanking on a train you may end up in clink tbf.

So .if you are a woman and you see a man wanking opposite you.. the solution is to show them your gun?

I'm really not but there is a completely different culture over here and the answer to everything ismt.. carry a gun.

You can leave my guns out the equation that's me personally. But the use of non lethal mace on your manbits would be just as effective don't you think ?

Mace is obviously a lot safer "

Right and it could work there for women. I agree guns are not acceptable in the UK. There are other solutions. Those options should be available even if there is legislation on some sort of training to properly use mace.

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By *entleman_spyMan over a year ago

nearby

I would be interested to know if there is still the same levels of fear for women going out at night for n American states with concealed/open carry rights ..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I would be interested to know if there is still the same levels of fear for women going out at night for n American states with concealed/open carry rights .."

Personally I do not and I'm know alot of women who carry feel the same way. But as you can see the disdain for guns in the UK is not acceptable. Other means can be introduced as a personal choice. I am just giving the " gun society view " on self defense. There would be a huge public uproar over gun issues as you can plainly read.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I would be interested to know if there is still the same levels of fear for women going out at night for n American states with concealed/open carry rights .."

In North America, the rate was 32% and in Western Europe 22%. And in the UK, a new first-of-its-kind report from the Femicide Census shows that a man kills a woman every three days in the country – a statistic unchanged across the 10 years studied.

Those Quoted stats are for femicide per se..... not for death by stranger.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Good question Tom.

You know what men are like though. If I get myself a gun .... he'll just get a mansize one....

How about we carry sharks.. ?

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By *entleman_spyMan over a year ago

nearby

"I would be interested to know if there is still the same levels of fear for women going out at night for n American states with concealed/open carry rights ..

We don’t all have that disdain ... some of us even actively own are own guns ...

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By *edeWoman over a year ago

the abyss

Why not teach people not to be twats and make it un acceptable to be one... Rather than risking the chance of killing innocent people???

The fact that it seems to be an easier answer to give people weapons than actually just calling out shitty behaviour when you see it says so much about the human race

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time? "
what and become like America ? You’ve got to be joking

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Fook me they can't reverse park and you want to give them a gun tom your dangerous

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The problem here, assuming you’re serious as it’s a pretty ludicrous thing to say, is the assumption that all women are angels and all men are bad and if shot, they “had it coming”. I’ve known plenty of women who are vindictive, malicious c**ts who would not stop to create a false scenario to cover a murder over a petty dispute. I’ve also known some who are the most kind and considerate people I’ve ever met, and who I would do anything for just to make them happy. Humans are much more complicated than “this one = good, this one = bad”.

Would a woman be justified in shooting my 16 year old son to death in her front garden because he forgot the supplements in her Mail on Sunday? It’s legal after all - he’s a male (so obviously a rapist) and she’s a female, so obviously has never had a single bad deed to her name and was just defending. Case closed your honour! If you think that sounds stupid, it’s because it is.

In short, giving a licence for women to carry guns is idiotic at best.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Fook me they can't reverse park and you want to give them a gun tom your dangerous

Keep the sexism and gender stereotyping coming, guys. It's a REALLY attractive thing.

Love Mrs KC

Reverse and parallel parker extraordinare

PS: Mr KC doesn't even have a driving license...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time? "

No. I’m not speaking for them, that’s just my initial response

far better ideas to support their safety.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Tasers , mace effective no lethal.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Tasers , mace effective no lethal."

Tasers can be lethal if used on someone with a heart condition or pacemaker. Our police can't just discharge them willy nilly. They're illegal for public use. As is mace, as we've already said.

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman over a year ago

Victoria, London

tom, tom, tom

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Good question Tom.

You know what men are like though. If I get myself a gun .... he'll just get a mansize one....

How about we carry sharks.. ?"

Now you are just being silly GC

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time? "

Nope. End of.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"tom, tom, tom

What now?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Tasers , mace effective no lethal.

Tasers can be lethal if used on someone with a heart condition or pacemaker. Our police can't just discharge them willy nilly. They're illegal for public use. As is mace, as we've already said. "

Can be but if someone trying to murder you that can be is kind of a moot point don't you think.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Tasers , mace effective no lethal.

Tasers can be lethal if used on someone with a heart condition or pacemaker. Our police can't just discharge them willy nilly. They're illegal for public use. As is mace, as we've already said.

Can be but if someone trying to murder you that can be is kind of a moot point don't you think."

The fact both are illegal for civilians makes the point even mooter.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Tasers , mace effective no lethal.

Tasers can be lethal if used on someone with a heart condition or pacemaker. Our police can't just discharge them willy nilly. They're illegal for public use. As is mace, as we've already said.

Can be but if someone trying to murder you that can be is kind of a moot point don't you think.

The fact both are illegal for civilians makes the point even mooter."

Isn't this a hypothetical argument based on changing said laws? I get you don't want guns, neither do I but this is a discussion around the merits of arming women surely so legality of items is the mootest of all moot points.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Any weapon you're not proficient with is your enemy's weapon, so definitely not. It takes training and experience to be able to use a weapon - including a firearm. "

Also mindset. I have seen lawfully armed people freeze when it came to it. Do not carry a weapon you are not prepared to use.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Tasers , mace effective no lethal.

Tasers can be lethal if used on someone with a heart condition or pacemaker. Our police can't just discharge them willy nilly. They're illegal for public use. As is mace, as we've already said.

Can be but if someone trying to murder you that can be is kind of a moot point don't you think.

The fact both are illegal for civilians makes the point even mooter.

Personally (and I know it's not just about me), I wouldn't be able to discharge any type of incapacitant. I need my hands to manoeuvre my wheelchair. Everyone banging on about krav maga and guns and mace are yet to suggest how people in my sort of situation should be protecting ourselves. "I should research it" apparently.

I don't want random people having tasers, guns, mace or anything like that because they will end up in the wrong hands and be used to aid assaults.

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By * WillisMan over a year ago

London

"Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time? "

You do realise once a month they have the fat hump?

why would you want to arm them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So basically it is what it is in the UK. Hope society changes. No offense to anyone my options are better than hope.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time?

You do realise once a month they have the fat hump?

why would you want to arm them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Time to educate boys at the beginning of secondary school. Arming women will eventually result in harm to men who had no intention in hurting a lady. Mistakes do happen

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

But it could empower woman to walk the streets and not be in fear...

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"But it could empower woman to walk the streets and not be in fear..."

No, it wouldn't.

Firearms come with a whole new level of danger.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"But it could empower woman to walk the streets and not be in fear..."

Guess what else would empower women to walk the streets and not be in fear and would result in less 'accidental' shootings/stabbings?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So the solution is ?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"So basically it is what it is in the UK. Hope society changes. No offense to anyone my options are better than hope."

They really aren't. You just don't know any better as it's deeply ingrained into your culture and society.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Would women feel safer if they were licenced co carry a firearm?

Is now the time?

You do realise once a month they have the fat hump?

why would you want to arm them

Wow

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman over a year ago

Victoria, London

"tom, tom, tom

What now?

from the man who is scared of EVERYTHING!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So basically it is what it is in the UK. Hope society changes. No offense to anyone my options are better than hope.

They really aren't. You just don't know any better as it's deeply ingrained into your culture and society. "

I have been saying that repeatedly it is in US culture. Now do you escalate to mace not firearms for women for self defense or leave it as status quo.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

What I am saying is that it is not compulsory to arm all women buy if it makes some women feel safe on the streets then what's the harm.. I do not hassle women on the street so I have nothing to fear..

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"What I am saying is that it is not compulsory to arm all women buy if it makes some women feel safe on the streets then what's the harm.. I do not hassle women on the street so I have nothing to fear.. "

But then that makes men fear that all women are carrying. Do you think that will make them accept that fact and not haraas women or do you think it will make them think they need to carry bigger and better and before we know it we're all in some kind of Mexican stand off?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"So basically it is what it is in the UK. Hope society changes. No offense to anyone my options are better than hope.

They really aren't. You just don't know any better as it's deeply ingrained into your culture and society.

I have been saying that repeatedly it is in US culture. Now do you escalate to mace not firearms for women for self defense or leave it as status quo."

So in gun carrying states what are the statistics for attacks on women? What are the statistics for murder/manslaughter by shooting?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid."

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan over a year ago

Seriously ?

The harm will come to innocent people caught up when a weapon is used for one

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So basically it is what it is in the UK. Hope society changes. No offense to anyone my options are better than hope.

They really aren't. You just don't know any better as it's deeply ingrained into your culture and society.

I have been saying that repeatedly it is in US culture. Now do you escalate to mace not firearms for women for self defense or leave it as status quo.

So in gun carrying states what are the statistics for attacks on women? What are the statistics for murder/manslaughter by shooting? "

60000 to 2.5 million per year saved by guns. It's on the cdc website. But all everyone is interested is body counts not as actual defense.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Good question Tom.

You know what men are like though. If I get myself a gun .... he'll just get a mansize one....

How about we carry sharks.. ?

Now you are just being silly GC

Oh Tom...... Men like you .....

so dismissive n cruel.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

but I still love your feet......

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?"

Front g2 concealed holster

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?

Front g2 concealed holster"

What happens if you're grabbed and over powered before you can unholster it? It'd be utterly useless seated in a wheelchair. It's impossible to access anything at belt level or pockets etc. All wrong angles etc.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?

Front g2 concealed holster

Practice training and awareness. I shoot 3 gun competition. Watch videos and judge how fast you can draw.

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By *assing Fancies xCouple over a year ago

Sherwood Forest

FFS

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Fook me they can't reverse park and you want to give them a gun tom your dangerous

"
brilliant

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?

Front g2 concealed holster

Deringers small close up I would suggest. I shoot with vets in wheelchairs alot. But I have 0 clue what your situation is.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Fook me they can't reverse park and you want to give them a gun tom your dangerous

brilliant

Is it? Really?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?

Front g2 concealed holster

Practice training and awareness. I shoot 3 gun competition. Watch videos and judge how fast you can draw. "

Competition and YouTube videos aren't real life situations though are they? With adrenalin high, being taken by surprise etc.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?

Front g2 concealed holster

Deringers small close up I would suggest. I shoot with vets in wheelchairs alot. But I have 0 clue what your situation is."

I'd be perfectly able to shoot on a range etc and have done. The issue would be how things unfold with someone coming from above (as all people are when you use a chair) and with the possibility of your chair being moved against your will (which happens reasonably often in different ways).

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?

Front g2 concealed holster

Deringers small close up I would suggest. I shoot with vets in wheelchairs alot. But I have 0 clue what your situation is.

I do not know your upper body strength. Deringers will go right thru the back of a wheelchair if you shoot underarm. I can't judge your situation it's not fair to you. That time and practice is entirely up to you. Dry firing and use.

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By *ad NannaWoman over a year ago

East London

I want you on my Zombie Apocalypse survival tea.

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman over a year ago

Victoria, London

Wait till the EU blockade HRT tablets, won't need guns then!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?

Front g2 concealed holster

Practice training and awareness. I shoot 3 gun competition. Watch videos and judge how fast you can draw.

Competition and YouTube videos aren't real life situations though are they? With adrenalin high, being taken by surprise etc. "

That's the point of 3 gun it is a running course to get your heart rate up. It's a timed event.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?

Front g2 concealed holster

Deringers small close up I would suggest. I shoot with vets in wheelchairs alot. But I have 0 clue what your situation is.

My upper body strength is tip top, thank you. As I say, the issue isn't the mechanics of discharging a firearm, I can do that. It's what happens in a genuine situation of threat and whether it's pointless or a possible threat to me (someone takes it off me). I can't manoeuvre the chairs and handle a firearm especially easily, much harder if someone is trying to hurt me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?

Front g2 concealed holster

Deringers small close up I would suggest. I shoot with vets in wheelchairs alot. But I have 0 clue what your situation is.

Wouldn't different scenarios you can come up with be a better option and practice those scenarios ? It is what you put into it I have faith you can accomplish that.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?

Front g2 concealed holster

Practice training and awareness. I shoot 3 gun competition. Watch videos and judge how fast you can draw.

Competition and YouTube videos aren't real life situations though are they? With adrenalin high, being taken by surprise etc.

That's the point of 3 gun it is a running course to get your heart rate up. It's a timed event."

But not real life lol

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?

Front g2 concealed holster

Deringers small close up I would suggest. I shoot with vets in wheelchairs alot. But I have 0 clue what your situation is.

Wouldn't different scenarios you can come up with be a better option and practice those scenarios ? It is what you put into it I have faith you can accomplish that."

Utterly pointless here anyway, I can do what I like (within reason) on a range, but that's it. And if someone attacked me on a gun range, I'd struggle to get away with shooting them. It's a moot point and I have no desire to be armed. I've shot clay pigeons, rifles, bows and arrows etc. All good fun, but it's nothing more than amusement to me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How do men know if they are carrying. You can not see mine. I don't strap it to my hip like the wild wild west saying look here be afraid.

Out of interest, where do you carry it? And if grabbed from behind by a bigger person, would you have a chance to get hold of it?

Front g2 concealed holster

Deringers small close up I would suggest. I shoot with vets in wheelchairs alot. But I have 0 clue what your situation is.

Wouldn't different scenarios you can come up with be a better option and practice those scenarios ? It is what you put into it I have faith you can accomplish that.

And that is fine. It's a choice for me.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

They could carry out a trial.. maybe in one county and see how it goes and if assaults on women drop..

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Give every girl a gun in Essex and see if male behaviour is modified

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Give every girl a gun in Essex and see if male behaviour is modified"

Why just in Essex?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Give every girl a gun in Essex and see if male behaviour is modified"

As you can see from the majority it would be impossible.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Give every girl a gun in Essex and see if male behaviour is modified

Why just in Essex?"

It could be anywhere...why not trial it..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Give every girl a gun in Essex and see if male behaviour is modified

Why just in Essex?

It could be anywhere...why not trial it.. "

I think not.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Give every girl a gun in Essex and see if male behaviour is modified

Why just in Essex?

It could be anywhere...why not trial it..

I think not. "

And what if it works for many women

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"Give every girl a gun in Essex and see if male behaviour is modified

Why just in Essex?

It could be anywhere...why not trial it..

I think not.

And what if it works for many women "

Have you seen anyone on these threads the last couple of days that agrees with that

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By *ooo wet tight hornyWoman over a year ago

lancashire

"No at all. I carry a farb gel spray which is sold on the police websites, it takes 7 days to wash off any perpetrators skin and clothes. "

That sound's an interesting thing to carry about...was it expensive? and what color does it leave on skin/clothes? I will be checking this out...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Definitely not we could end up like the US

They claim the right to bear arms, I think from what you see daily there it would have been safer to arm bears

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