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Is MFM DVP bi? Asking for a friend
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And yes I really am asking for a friend as I know what I think already.
So my female friend needs your help, she enjoys a good DVP but a guy she is speaking to thinks it's something only bi men would do as their penis's would be touching and as he is straight then he wouldn't/couldn't do this as he isn't in the slightest bit bit, not even fabstraight 
What are your thoughts? Is it still straight if two guys penis's touch while giving the woman pleasure or are they secretly doing bi stuff while inside her vagina  |
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I would say that DP and DVP is not bi. Bi involves far more than two guys penises touching each other during DVP, especially as the most important thing is to give the lady a pleasurable experience.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The guy needs to man up (ironically) and stick his dick in her vag and just be happy he's been asked to be involved.
I think he's being a fanny and if it's the act of fucking the woman which is the turn on then no homo. If he's getting a twitch on thinking about rubbing dicks with another dude then boy have I got some news for him...   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wouldn’t say it’s bi but it’s definitely on the border line
I say they just need to man up and let the fun roll
From my experience that’s the best way definitely have lot more fun |
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It’s the old labels thing again. I’d imagine that straight guys doing dvp enjoy the sensation of another cock rubbing against there own. I enjoy the sensation of my cock being touched and rubbed it’s a physical thing.
I don’t think it makes someone bi if they enjoy that feeling, I’d say if they enjoy the thought of it though, then that’s a different matter. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think to be bi would mean to be somewhat attracted to the same sex who identify themselves as cis men.
If there’s the attraction and curiosity then yes. That could be bisexual.
But curiosity isn’t set in stone.
Sticking a dick in a vag with another dick in it, isn’t bisexual. Having said that, if he’s not comfortable with that, because he might think he freaks out, he’s not comfortable. Period. |
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By *indergirlWoman
over a year ago
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Doesn't mean your bi, just means you're comfortable enough in your own skin to not let it bother you if you touch. The pleasure you get is from what your doing to the woman not from the other guy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"secret bi stuff" I love it
But as a serious answer, no, dvp isn't bi, unless one guy strokes the other guys balls at the same time or something. But two dicks touching in this situation? No.
Do people actually think it is?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think to be bi would mean to be somewhat attracted to the same sex who identify themselves as cis men.
If there’s the attraction and curiosity then yes. That could be bisexual.
But curiosity isn’t set in stone.
Sticking a dick in a vag with another dick in it, isn’t bisexual. Having said that, if he’s not comfortable with that, because he might think he freaks out, he’s not comfortable. Period. "
Well said! And youre hot btw |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've done it before and I'm not bi. I've thought about it before many times and the thought of doing anything sexual with a man isn't for me but the thought of doing dvp turns me on alot. Go figure |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't think it's bi, but you definitely need to be comfortable with your dick being in close vicinity to another without it turning you off. While the aim to ensure pleasure for the lady, it won't work if your dick goes soft because you know there's another one near yours. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And yes I really am asking for a friend as I know what I think already.
So my female friend needs your help, she enjoys a good DVP but a guy she is speaking to thinks it's something only bi men would do as their penis's would be touching and as he is straight then he wouldn't/couldn't do this as he isn't in the slightest bit bit, not even fabstraight
What are your thoughts? Is it still straight if two guys penis's touch while giving the woman pleasure or are they secretly doing bi stuff while inside her vagina "
Ive done it with a straight couple and im still straight so no i dont think its bi |
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I once heard this called "cock friendly" by a group of people i met in gran canaria which could be a good way to look at it. I mean lets be honest its only a cock i touch one every day no different really |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wouldn't say bi at all. Although at least one cock needs a condom. (That's how me and Mrs do it, always my cock bare lol) the thought of crossing unsheathed swords would probably kill my erection. Most of my pleasure in DVP comes from watching Mrs face  |
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After lockdown DP is something on the cards as its one of her fantasys
I dont think DVP would make a guy bi but I dont think its something I would like the thought of, To much in my personal space lol
I get accidental sword clashing might happen and thats fine but the thought of rubbing of another guys cock just puts me off
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No it does not make it bi, there is a bit of ball and cock touching in dp and especially in dvp, but that would not make it bi, just an occupational hazard. If the guys start to play with eachother then it is bi. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doesnt make a straight man bi if his cock touched another's, as far as I know its not contagious bi that is "
Dvp with a dildo first. Then all that changes is the thickness of the rubber
Oh and some extra face covering stuff for Mrs. |
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Not at all!
Just cos she wants 2 willies in her and they're both happy to oblige, doesn't mean the men fancy each other!
They do need to be confident/cocksure though so as not to get intimidated.
It's on our "to do" list  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Who cares.
It’s my dream to double dick a hot chick with a guy that has a comparable penis to mine so we can synchronise our rhythm and then explode in unison inside the comfort of her vagina.
Feel the rhythm, enjoy the ride, I’m almost there, let’s spunk inside, cool Cummings!!
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So it appears that by and large what I was thinking along with my friend too is also the view of the larger percentage of fabsters.
Its still unlikely to change the way people hold their own view on things and it does look like her friends may miss out on a lot of fun for their views but thats their look out I guess.
Thanks everyone for your input and I shall pass on what you've all said  |
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It’s not bi to rub swords with another fella inside a lady.
It’s a tiny bit bi to rub swords with another fella inside a lady if the two of you are sharing a double ended dildo at the same time.
It’s quite bi if you are rubbing swords with a fella and there are no lady parts in the room.
It’s almost fully bi if you are rubbing swords with another fella inside another fellas bum hole. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s not bi to rub swords with another fella inside a lady.
It’s a tiny bit bi to rub swords with another fella inside a lady if the two of you are sharing a double ended dildo at the same time.
It’s quite bi if you are rubbing swords with a fella and there are no lady parts in the room.
It’s almost fully bi if you are rubbing swords with another fella inside another fellas bum hole. "
You seem quite knowledgeable on the subject.
Is it bi to cross swords in the shower in a first one to wince in pain kinda way with a teammate whilst other teammates shout encouragement?
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"It’s not bi to rub swords with another fella inside a lady.
It’s a tiny bit bi to rub swords with another fella inside a lady if the two of you are sharing a double ended dildo at the same time.
It’s quite bi if you are rubbing swords with a fella and there are no lady parts in the room.
It’s almost fully bi if you are rubbing swords with another fella inside another fellas bum hole.
You seem quite knowledgeable on the subject.
Is it bi to cross swords in the shower in a first one to wince in pain kinda way with a teammate whilst other teammates shout encouragement?
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Even though the scenario you present is devoid of boobs and vulvas it isn’t bi, the presence of their teammates means that this is just playful camaraderie. It starts to wander into the realms of being a little bit bi if the two teammates rubbing swords are doing so on their knees whilst the rest of the team wank in unison and spaff over the pair of them whilst shouting encouragement. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s not bi to rub swords with another fella inside a lady.
It’s a tiny bit bi to rub swords with another fella inside a lady if the two of you are sharing a double ended dildo at the same time.
It’s quite bi if you are rubbing swords with a fella and there are no lady parts in the room.
It’s almost fully bi if you are rubbing swords with another fella inside another fellas bum hole.
You seem quite knowledgeable on the subject.
Is it bi to cross swords in the shower in a first one to wince in pain kinda way with a teammate whilst other teammates shout encouragement?
Even though the scenario you present is devoid of boobs and vulvas it isn’t bi, the presence of their teammates means that this is just playful camaraderie. It starts to wander into the realms of being a little bit bi if the two teammates rubbing swords are doing so on their knees whilst the rest of the team wank in unison and spaff over the pair of them whilst shouting encouragement. "
Oh.
I was asking for a friend obviously.
I’ll inform him that he was wandering into the realms.
Thanks for clearing that up for him. |
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"It’s not bi to rub swords with another fella inside a lady.
It’s a tiny bit bi to rub swords with another fella inside a lady if the two of you are sharing a double ended dildo at the same time.
It’s quite bi if you are rubbing swords with a fella and there are no lady parts in the room.
It’s almost fully bi if you are rubbing swords with another fella inside another fellas bum hole.
You seem quite knowledgeable on the subject.
Is it bi to cross swords in the shower in a first one to wince in pain kinda way with a teammate whilst other teammates shout encouragement?
Even though the scenario you present is devoid of boobs and vulvas it isn’t bi, the presence of their teammates means that this is just playful camaraderie. It starts to wander into the realms of being a little bit bi if the two teammates rubbing swords are doing so on their knees whilst the rest of the team wank in unison and spaff over the pair of them whilst shouting encouragement.
Oh.
I was asking for a friend obviously.
I’ll inform him that he was wandering into the realms.
Thanks for clearing that up for him."
I’ve done that too  |
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"And yes I really am asking for a friend as I know what I think already.
So my female friend needs your help, she enjoys a good DVP but a guy she is speaking to thinks it's something only bi men would do as their penis's would be touching and as he is straight then he wouldn't/couldn't do this as he isn't in the slightest bit bit, not even fabstraight
What are your thoughts? Is it still straight if two guys penis's touch while giving the woman pleasure or are they secretly doing bi stuff while inside her vagina "
Yes it is bi....very...bordering on completely gay. I suppose you want me to step in then!  |
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"And yes I really am asking for a friend as I know what I think already.
So my female friend needs your help, she enjoys a good DVP but a guy she is speaking to thinks it's something only bi men would do as their penis's would be touching and as he is straight then he wouldn't/couldn't do this as he isn't in the slightest bit bit, not even fabstraight
What are your thoughts? Is it still straight if two guys penis's touch while giving the woman pleasure or are they secretly doing bi stuff while inside her vagina "
I have heard that said before by a male porn actor on a YouTube clip but for me I love it! I can’t say whether it is bi or not, but I can say it is an act I enjoy to be able to do inside a hotwife. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Oh.
I was asking for a friend obviously.
I’ll inform him that he was wandering into the realms.
Thanks for clearing that up for him.
I’ve done that too "
Cleared it up for him? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I had it with 2 straight guys (not fab straight) but they were close friends and usually play together for MFM scenerios so they were really comfortable around eachother.
But who am I to judge  "
V gay. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Proper gay almost full on Alice in wonderland gay, almost that gay there is no point the female even been part of the dvp,she is basicly getting in the way of two guys having fun together |
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"And yes I really am asking for a friend as I know what I think already.
So my female friend needs your help, she enjoys a good DVP but a guy she is speaking to thinks it's something only bi men would do as their penis's would be touching and as he is straight then he wouldn't/couldn't do this as he isn't in the slightest bit bit, not even fabstraight
What are your thoughts? Is it still straight if two guys penis's touch while giving the woman pleasure or are they secretly doing bi stuff while inside her vagina
Yes it is bi....very...bordering on completely gay. I suppose you want me to step in then! "
Not at all, if it's very bi bordering on the complete ghey then you must be one too and she doesn't like bi men so you're of no use to her whatsoever |
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"Who cares.
It’s my dream to double dick a hot chick with a guy that has a comparable penis to mine so we can synchronise our rhythm and then explode in unison inside the comfort of her vagina.
Feel the rhythm, enjoy the ride, I’m almost there, let’s spunk inside, cool Cummings!!
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You wanna kiss ma lucky egg? |
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"Who cares.
It’s my dream to double dick a hot chick with a guy that has a comparable penis to mine so we can synchronise our rhythm and then explode in unison inside the comfort of her vagina.
Feel the rhythm, enjoy the ride, I’m almost there, let’s spunk inside, cool Cummings!!
You wanna kiss ma lucky egg?"
Love eggs x |
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"And yes I really am asking for a friend as I know what I think already.
So my female friend needs your help, she enjoys a good DVP but a guy she is speaking to thinks it's something only bi men would do as their penis's would be touching and as he is straight then he wouldn't/couldn't do this as he isn't in the slightest bit bit, not even fabstraight
What are your thoughts? Is it still straight if two guys penis's touch while giving the woman pleasure or are they secretly doing bi stuff while inside her vagina
Yes it is bi....very...bordering on completely gay. I suppose you want me to step in then!
Not at all, if it's very bi bordering on the complete ghey then you must be one too and she doesn't like bi men so you're of no use to her whatsoever "
Tell her im fab straight! |
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By *weedeldumbCouple (MM)
over a year ago
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Nope. Its not bi. Sexual attraction is as much a mental thing as it is physical. We've done DVP a few times and it was purely for the lady's pleasure mainly and of course it felt great for us too. But it has never stirred up any sexual attraction between me and my partner in crime. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It all boils down to sexual attraction, if there’s none then it doesn’t matter if the dicks rub as the attention is on the woman, really.
But again, as mentioned previously it all depends on how comfortable that person is. He might not be so it’s scarying him to try.
He might also be feeling a bit insicure in case she might like the other guy more and he gets left out. |
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"And yes I really am asking for a friend as I know what I think already.
So my female friend needs your help, she enjoys a good DVP but a guy she is speaking to thinks it's something only bi men would do as their penis's would be touching and as he is straight then he wouldn't/couldn't do this as he isn't in the slightest bit bit, not even fabstraight
What are your thoughts? Is it still straight if two guys penis's touch while giving the woman pleasure or are they secretly doing bi stuff while inside her vagina "
I guess he's not very confident in his sexuality. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Men.
Stop all the denial
You're cock obsessed whether it's yours or someone else's.
Embrace the ghey - learn some show tunes - enjoy the penis and don't worry about it  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s bi of the guys are bi and straight if they straight and if one is bi and one is straight then who the fuck knows!!!"
You can only identify ur own sexuality not somebody else’s as you aren’t them and don’t know what goes on in their attraction.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Men.
Stop all the denial
You're cock obsessed whether it's yours or someone else's.
Embrace the ghey - learn some show tunes - enjoy the penis and don't worry about it "
enjoy the penis!
They have a penis festival in Japan once a year where everyone celebrates the cock! |
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"Men.
Stop all the denial
You're cock obsessed whether it's yours or someone else's.
Embrace the ghey - learn some show tunes - enjoy the penis and don't worry about it enjoy the penis!
They have a penis festival in Japan once a year where everyone celebrates the cock! "
Sounds like a fun day |
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"And yes I really am asking for a friend as I know what I think already.
So my female friend needs your help, she enjoys a good DVP but a guy she is speaking to thinks it's something only bi men would do as their penis's would be touching and as he is straight then he wouldn't/couldn't do this as he isn't in the slightest bit bit, not even fabstraight
What are your thoughts? Is it still straight if two guys penis's touch while giving the woman pleasure or are they secretly doing bi stuff while inside her vagina "
Does it really matter?
If you are all doing something you enjoy sexually, does it need to be classified?
I don't mind doing anything including playing with his cock in a mmf. I only draw the line at kissing another man. Which is my personal choice.
Sex is there to be enjoyed and not put under a PC microsope |
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It's anything but bi. If you are comfortable being naked in front of other guys, you don't even have to be bi curious to delight in the eroticism of pleasuring a woman with two cocks, and when you have established a friendship it can be sensational. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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OP it's the start of a slippery slope. Soon your friends, friend will be coordinating his clothing, purchasing soft furnishings and displaying emotion. I tell you, this won't end well.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I would say it’s far from being bi . Tried it many years ago and it was a massive turn on . Hasn’t made me start to fancy blokes .
Given the chance I’ll be all over it again . If he wants to think it’s wrong then his loss . |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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I honestly don’t understand the thought process that leads to guys being so afraid of enjoying a guy touching them that they get angry or scared of it.
No, two cocks touching isn’t bi.
I know that straight is the default but I can’t understand how people would prefer to meet guys that jump at the thought of touching another person for fear of that straight being questioned.
Guys being so desperate that they remain straight and ‘masculine’ at the detriment of most other things is just ridiculous |
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"I honestly don’t understand the thought process that leads to guys being so afraid of enjoying a guy touching them that they get angry or scared of it.
No, two cocks touching isn’t bi.
I know that straight is the default but I can’t understand how people would prefer to meet guys that jump at the thought of touching another person for fear of that straight being questioned.
Guys being so desperate that they remain straight and ‘masculine’ at the detriment of most other things is just ridiculous"
My thoughts entirely, its barely much different from the 2 guys legs touching in all honesty in my mind so if one bothers you then the other one would as well surely |
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Funny enough a question I've asked myself as we often have mmf threesums. Always thought that I was/am straight however there is no getting away from a bi-curious element creeping in. The inevitable clash of cocks and mouths will happen so call it what you want.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There's a saying `Crossing Swords` if both Men say they are straight I believe to to be true.
And no I don't view DVP as male bi sex, if both men claim to be straight and as you say OP not Fab Straight. |
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Every one obsesses about sticking labels on every thing
DP will only Not work if one or both have Bi Phobia
Mostly because they fear they might be tempted to go further cocks dont bite Just cinxenteate on thr woman and peasuring her Dp is the best a woman can get |
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What would make a man bi is enjoying sex with both men and women.
If your cock touches another man's cock but it doesn't do anything for you, it wouldn't make you bi.
Worrying about such things might make you sound a bit silly/insecure though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Tell him to have a go and see if he enjoys it. He doesn’t need to tell the whole world about his activities, so it is still private. If he is worried that he may enjoy his cock touching another guys cock then there is probably a strong stigma in his mind and he may be worried that he is actually bi and he can’t accept it? |
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If I (Luke) made physical contact with a man during an mmf I can't say it would bother me. I would see that situation as being about the woman and I would be seeking to give her what she enjoys. Focusing on her doesn't have anything to do with my sexuality regarding men. |
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Not bi but to be fair to the guy not every man would be comfortable doing this. He would have to be very relaxed around another man to pull this off. If he's already this worried i doubt this situation is for him. HTH. |
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Oh no! Might catch ghay!
No it isn't gay in any way, but if the guy don't wanna do it, stop bullying him. He isn't going to be able to do it if he is uncomfortable. Find a couple of guys who do want to do it and let him hold the towels. You never know, he might just rise to the occasion.  |
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"And yes I really am asking for a friend as I know what I think already.
So my female friend needs your help, she enjoys a good DVP but a guy she is speaking to thinks it's something only bi men would do as their penis's would be touching and as he is straight then he wouldn't/couldn't do this as he isn't in the slightest bit bit, not even fabstraight
What are your thoughts? Is it still straight if two guys penis's touch while giving the woman pleasure or are they secretly doing bi stuff while inside her vagina "
A DVP is not bi stuff especially when it is to pleasure her. When a sexy hot wife or any couples inviting a guy or guys to join them makes no-one bi if everyone is enjoying a good DVP. It makes a happy wife or girlfriend. |
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By *1bttmMan
over a year ago
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Regardless of what u think and how u label it.....the 2 cocks are inside the woman and are touching. Whether 1 is still and the other 1 fucking the mechanics of DVP mean as well as friction from being inside the pussy both guys are physically stimulating themselves from cock on cock action action as well. Guys that do it must be able to feel their dicks rubbing together inside so directly causing some pleasure. I wouldn't say its intentionally bi but its not far off of it |
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My penis had a gentleman's agreement with the other bloke's while we were at it, the only touching that happened inside the vagina was a firm, manly, handshake between penises, with no eye contact. Super not gay 
LvM |
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"My penis had a gentleman's agreement with the other bloke's while we were at it, the only touching that happened inside the vagina was a firm, manly, handshake between penises, with no eye contact. Super not gay
LvM"
You're only straight if you don't enjoy it |
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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago
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"My penis had a gentleman's agreement with the other bloke's while we were at it, the only touching that happened inside the vagina was a firm, manly, handshake between penises, with no eye contact. Super not gay
LvM"
Your penis has a hand and no eye? And you found another penis with a hand and no eye? What kind of wizardry is this Matterhorn? |
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"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one"
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?! |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?! "
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that |
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"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that "
No I don’t think there is to be honest. Homophobia is prejudice/hate/negativity to a gay/bi/trans etc person. I personally don’t think a straight person not wanting their dick rubbing against another man’s dick comes into that category. |
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"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that "
Or some men, and women, just aren’t comfortable around others in their bodies let alone adding another person of the same gender and the thought of being compared. |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that
No I don’t think there is to be honest. Homophobia is prejudice/hate/negativity to a gay/bi/trans etc person. I personally don’t think a straight person not wanting their dick rubbing against another man’s dick comes into that category. "
That’s a very limited idea of what homophobic attitudes and behaviours are. Not wanting to engage in a situation because you’re afraid that you’ll touch another guy is homophobic |
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"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that
No I don’t think there is to be honest. Homophobia is prejudice/hate/negativity to a gay/bi/trans etc person. I personally don’t think a straight person not wanting their dick rubbing against another man’s dick comes into that category.
That’s a very limited idea of what homophobic attitudes and behaviours are. Not wanting to engage in a situation because you’re afraid that you’ll touch another guy is homophobic"
I disagree. But as it’s me and you I’ll leave it there or we’ll be here all day . |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that
Or some men, and women, just aren’t comfortable around others in their bodies let alone adding another person of the same gender and the thought of being compared. "
If that’s the case, then why say that it’s bisexual?
Of course that happens, it’s totally valid but that’s not what’s being said here |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that
No I don’t think there is to be honest. Homophobia is prejudice/hate/negativity to a gay/bi/trans etc person. I personally don’t think a straight person not wanting their dick rubbing against another man’s dick comes into that category.
That’s a very limited idea of what homophobic attitudes and behaviours are. Not wanting to engage in a situation because you’re afraid that you’ll touch another guy is homophobic
I disagree. But as it’s me and you I’ll leave it there or we’ll be here all day . "
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I think your sexuality is in your mind , you know weather you are straight or bi and what you are comfortable with and not . Personally I would luv a chance to do DV with a couple . |
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"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that
No I don’t think there is to be honest. Homophobia is prejudice/hate/negativity to a gay/bi/trans etc person. I personally don’t think a straight person not wanting their dick rubbing against another man’s dick comes into that category.
That’s a very limited idea of what homophobic attitudes and behaviours are. Not wanting to engage in a situation because you’re afraid that you’ll touch another guy is homophobic"
And being expected to engage in an activity that you're clearly not comfortable with, because other people think you should, or others think it makes you done kind of xxxx-obic, is outright bullying |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
East London |
I'll be honest. I wouldn't want another woman's labia touching mine during sex.
I can understand why a man wouldn't want a sexual organ touching theirs.
It's a mental thing.
As much as I'm turned on by the thought of a penis touching my vagina, I'm as turned off by labia touching mine.
And I like licking a pussy  |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
East London |
"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that
No I don’t think there is to be honest. Homophobia is prejudice/hate/negativity to a gay/bi/trans etc person. I personally don’t think a straight person not wanting their dick rubbing against another man’s dick comes into that category.
That’s a very limited idea of what homophobic attitudes and behaviours are. Not wanting to engage in a situation because you’re afraid that you’ll touch another guy is homophobic"
Afraid or repulsed? I'm not scared of being bi but the thought of labia touching mine turns my stomach.
I'm homophones, according to you.
Some days just seeing a spread open pussy makes me feel ill.
It's a natural reaction. |
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Personally I dont think you need to be bi for this.
Its more how comfortable someone is in their skin and understands the dynamic of dvp or dp.
Ive been with straight couples and did this with, it was great fun for all! |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that
No I don’t think there is to be honest. Homophobia is prejudice/hate/negativity to a gay/bi/trans etc person. I personally don’t think a straight person not wanting their dick rubbing against another man’s dick comes into that category.
That’s a very limited idea of what homophobic attitudes and behaviours are. Not wanting to engage in a situation because you’re afraid that you’ll touch another guy is homophobic
And being expected to engage in an activity that you're clearly not comfortable with, because other people think you should, or others think it makes you done kind of xxxx-obic, is outright bullying"
No one is saying that anyone has to do anything that they don’t want to. If the person isn’t comfortable then of course they shouldn’t engage.
I don’t think that anyone is saying anything otherwise |
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Is using a sex toy bi or straight? I don’t think this type of contact has or needs to be labeled. Either it is something you are comfortable with or not. Personally it’s not for me but I can see how for other men such contact is neither a turn on or a turn off. |
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"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that
No I don’t think there is to be honest. Homophobia is prejudice/hate/negativity to a gay/bi/trans etc person. I personally don’t think a straight person not wanting their dick rubbing against another man’s dick comes into that category.
That’s a very limited idea of what homophobic attitudes and behaviours are. Not wanting to engage in a situation because you’re afraid that you’ll touch another guy is homophobic
And being expected to engage in an activity that you're clearly not comfortable with, because other people think you should, or others think it makes you done kind of xxxx-obic, is outright bullying
No one is saying that anyone has to do anything that they don’t want to. If the person isn’t comfortable then of course they shouldn’t engage.
I don’t think that anyone is saying anything otherwise "
You certainly implied that it was homophobic not to take part.... |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that
No I don’t think there is to be honest. Homophobia is prejudice/hate/negativity to a gay/bi/trans etc person. I personally don’t think a straight person not wanting their dick rubbing against another man’s dick comes into that category.
That’s a very limited idea of what homophobic attitudes and behaviours are. Not wanting to engage in a situation because you’re afraid that you’ll touch another guy is homophobic
And being expected to engage in an activity that you're clearly not comfortable with, because other people think you should, or others think it makes you done kind of xxxx-obic, is outright bullying
No one is saying that anyone has to do anything that they don’t want to. If the person isn’t comfortable then of course they shouldn’t engage.
I don’t think that anyone is saying anything otherwise
You certainly implied that it was homophobic not to take part...."
I said that homophobia takes many forms. That doesn’t mean that a person has to take part.
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"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that
Or some men, and women, just aren’t comfortable around others in their bodies let alone adding another person of the same gender and the thought of being compared.
If that’s the case, then why say that it’s bisexual?
Of course that happens, it’s totally valid but that’s not what’s being said here"
We are derailing this thread. However you said “ “I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis” Yup, nothing homophobic about that”
I haven’t commented on whether two peni together in DVP is bi or not, that is up to each individual to decide how they wish to label it.
My comment is purely based on you saying someone being homophobic as they don’t want to have sex with a woman as they might come into contact with another man.
Everyone has their limits, boundaries and what they feel comfortable doing with others around, it doesn’t make them homophobic |
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"I would say that DP and DVP is not bi. Bi involves far more than two guys penises touching each other during DVP, especially as the most important thing is to give the lady a pleasurable experience.
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"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that
Or some men, and women, just aren’t comfortable around others in their bodies let alone adding another person of the same gender and the thought of being compared.
If that’s the case, then why say that it’s bisexual?
Of course that happens, it’s totally valid but that’s not what’s being said here
We are derailing this thread. However you said “ “I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis” Yup, nothing homophobic about that”
I haven’t commented on whether two peni together in DVP is bi or not, that is up to each individual to decide how they wish to label it.
My comment is purely based on you saying someone being homophobic as they don’t want to have sex with a woman as they might come into contact with another man.
Everyone has their limits, boundaries and what they feel comfortable doing with others around, it doesn’t make them homophobic "
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Homophobia takes many various forms. The fear that touching another man and that it will bring pleasure, thus altering their ‘certainty’ of being straight, is just one
Oh Tea. How does homophobia even come into this?!
“I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis”
Yup, nothing homophobic about that
Or some men, and women, just aren’t comfortable around others in their bodies let alone adding another person of the same gender and the thought of being compared.
If that’s the case, then why say that it’s bisexual?
Of course that happens, it’s totally valid but that’s not what’s being said here
We are derailing this thread. However you said “ “I’m not going to have sex with a woman because I might be in close proximity to another penis” Yup, nothing homophobic about that”
I haven’t commented on whether two peni together in DVP is bi or not, that is up to each individual to decide how they wish to label it.
My comment is purely based on you saying someone being homophobic as they don’t want to have sex with a woman as they might come into contact with another man.
Everyone has their limits, boundaries and what they feel comfortable doing with others around, it doesn’t make them homophobic "
Maybe not.
The reason is always why.
If a person doesn’t feel comfortable being in close proximity with another person of the same gender, whilst engaging in heterosexual acts, then it’s why they’re uncomfortable.
If as you said; it’s body confidence issues or personal space issues, that’s a different thing. That wouldn’t explain why they stated that it was bi though. Calling a straight act bisexual does betray a degree of homophobia
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"I'll be honest. I wouldn't want another woman's labia touching mine during sex.
I can understand why a man wouldn't want a sexual organ touching theirs.
It's a mental thing.
As much as I'm turned on by the thought of a penis touching my vagina, I'm as turned off by labia touching mine.
And I like licking a pussy "
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Whaatttt? I don't understand how anyone would come to that conclusion... And honestly anyone who said that to me I would instantly assume they are super bi and in denile about it in the most over the top way possible, people are who secure in there sexuallity wouldent be so wierd about it |
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"Whaatttt? I don't understand how anyone would come to that conclusion... And honestly anyone who said that to me I would instantly assume they are super bi and in denile about it in the most over the top way possible, people are who secure in there sexuallity wouldent be so wierd about it "
Two guys rubbing erections together in a pussy... I think this thing of ours gives a slightly different set of definitions |
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By *DW1983Man
over a year ago
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"I don't think it makes a guy bi if he does DVP, however I can also understand why a straight guy might not be comfortable with it. "
Yes, I agree. I'm straight, I'd have no attractiin to the guy or desire to interact with him, but am not so squeamish as to get upset if we come into contact. Otherwise where do we draw the line? If I brush against a guy's torso during a threesome an I bi? If I catch my elbow on his arm? If there's no attraction or desire between the guys I'd struggle to see how it could be bi. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"I'll be honest. I wouldn't want another woman's labia touching mine during sex.
I can understand why a man wouldn't want a sexual organ touching theirs.
It's a mental thing.
As much as I'm turned on by the thought of a penis touching my vagina, I'm as turned off by labia touching mine.
And I like licking a pussy
Such a contrarian"
I don't understand it myself most days. |
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"I don't think it makes a guy bi if he does DVP, however I can also understand why a straight guy might not be comfortable with it.
Yes, I agree. I'm straight, I'd have no attractiin to the guy or desire to interact with him, but am not so squeamish as to get upset if we come into contact. Otherwise where do we draw the line? If I brush against a guy's torso during a threesome an I bi? If I catch my elbow on his arm? If there's no attraction or desire between the guys I'd struggle to see how it could be bi."
If you look at him naked you're bi curious if you brush against him in flagrante delectum... That's it.. |
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I think he's right to be worried. He could be shopping for soft furnishings in Dunelm before he knows it.
Seriously? I think he's just worried he might enjoy the feeling of a cock rubbing against him a bit too much. |
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"I don't think it makes a guy bi if he does DVP, however I can also understand why a straight guy might not be comfortable with it. "
I'm not gay or bi but feeling a lady intire raw naked body shaking,shuttering & trimbaling in orgasmic extasy is so well werth my cock in her with another
What say you? |
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"I'll be honest. I wouldn't want another woman's labia touching mine during sex.
I can understand why a man wouldn't want a sexual organ touching theirs.
It's a mental thing.
As much as I'm turned on by the thought of a penis touching my vagina, I'm as turned off by labia touching mine.
And I like licking a pussy "
I'm thinking it might be a turn on for some because it's so taboo |
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I’m pretty sure Bi is about a sexual attraction to both sexes and not about who’s skin is touching who.
So, IMHO... it’s not bi unless it’s turning you on.
*although I find it rather nonsensical to base a future experience on an arbitrary label |
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"I don't think it makes a guy bi if he does DVP, however I can also understand why a straight guy might not be comfortable with it.
I'm not gay or bi but feeling a lady intire raw naked body shaking,shuttering & trimbaling in orgasmic extasy is so well werth my cock in her with another
What say you?"
What is there to say? I don't really understand what you're asking me. |
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By *xmfrvnMan
over a year ago
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Is frottage straight then? If the only distinction is that dvp is inside a woman, isn't that just intravaginal frottage?
It doesn't seem to be a completely straight act, even if the parties wouldn't consider themselves anything but straight.
It does seem like people are scared of bisexuality, particularly in men. Asking whether it's straight or protesting that it is suggests an amount of denial. Sexuality is a spectrum, nobody is 100% anything.
It does sound like a fucking blast though, so as long as everyone enjoys it, who cares? |
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"Is frottage straight then? If the only distinction is that dvp is inside a woman, isn't that just intravaginal frottage?
It doesn't seem to be a completely straight act, even if the parties wouldn't consider themselves anything but straight.
It does seem like people are scared of bisexuality, particularly in men. Asking whether it's straight or protesting that it is suggests an amount of denial. Sexuality is a spectrum, nobody is 100% anything.
It does sound like a fucking blast though, so as long as everyone enjoys it, who cares? "
"Sexuality is a spectrum, nobody is 100% anything."
There are plenty of profiles on here with 110% straight husbands / boyfriends / blokes... Or maybe that's fab straight.
Joking aside... If its not for someone... Its no big deal is it? |
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