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"Dunblane. " This... how many schools have been subjected to massacres due to guns. 6 year olds in the states have to have ‘gun drills’ which fills me with horror! Guns should be banned and people that want to carry guns maybe should be shot and see how they like it. | |||
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"Dunblane. This... how many schools have been subjected to massacres due to guns. 6 year olds in the states have to have ‘gun drills’ which fills me with horror! Guns should be banned and people that want to carry guns maybe should be shot and see how they like it. " I carry all the time having 0 issues. It's a mental health issue not a gun issue. I agree with phycological examination before purchasing one. | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious." I would just ask why the US DOESN'T have such distaste for them. How many more mass shootings will it take to convince?  | |||
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"Dunblane. This... how many schools have been subjected to massacres due to guns. 6 year olds in the states have to have ‘gun drills’ which fills me with horror! Guns should be banned and people that want to carry guns maybe should be shot and see how they like it. I carry all the time having 0 issues. It's a mental health issue not a gun issue. I agree with phycological examination before purchasing one. " Then as far as I can tell, you're in the minority. I don't think guns are particularly necessary across much of the UK life, and I'm glad they're legally restricted to those who have a need for them. I grew up in the country so shotguns and rifles were around, but generally only in the hands of gamekeepers and deer hunters etc. I get that there's a bigger gun culture in the US, and don't really have a problem with that, but there seems to be such resistance to ANY gun reform it just seems ludicrous to me. Especially in the face of the countless mass shootings which occur over there, in schools and elsewhere. It's that mentality I've got a serious problem with. | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious." Because the bit that comes out of it dam hurts & can kill | |||
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"For us it’s just not part of the culture here, U.K. wise have never really felt the need to have a gun, and think it’s a lot nicer being on the streets knowing that nobody else has one. At our place in the states we have guns, but even when we’re there we very rarely carry, it was honestly more of a we can have them so we do type thing, they spend 99% of the time in the gun safe unless we have the urge to take them out back to destroy some targets. And even then it’s only really when someone from the U.K. is with us and wants to try one out. Can’t say we really have ever felt the need to shoot anybody going about our normal lives. " It's not the need to shoot someone it's the added protection as you are well aware of the states. | |||
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" I've seen the damage they can do and also had the temptation to say goodbye to my own head." I'm so sorry PP  | |||
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"For us it’s just not part of the culture here, U.K. wise have never really felt the need to have a gun, and think it’s a lot nicer being on the streets knowing that nobody else has one. At our place in the states we have guns, but even when we’re there we very rarely carry, it was honestly more of a we can have them so we do type thing, they spend 99% of the time in the gun safe unless we have the urge to take them out back to destroy some targets. And even then it’s only really when someone from the U.K. is with us and wants to try one out. Can’t say we really have ever felt the need to shoot anybody going about our normal lives. It's not the need to shoot someone it's the added protection as you are well aware of the states. " But if people didn't have guns they wouldn't use guns to cause harm so you wouldn't need guns to protect yourself. How many people have been shot by accident by civilians and law enforcement officers because they got trigger happy or thought they needed to shoot first? | |||
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" It's not the need to shoot someone it's the added protection as you are well aware of the states. " But that "added protection" doesn't work, does it? Judging by your gun crime. | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious." Not all of us do, I used to shoot air rifles when i was younger and used to 'Beat' on pheasant shoots I have quite an interest in firearms and military history. I personally watch stuff like Garand Thumb,T.Rex Arms, Brandon Herrera, DemoRanch and Forgotten Weapons on Youtube. Plus i play Escape from Tarkov alot which has an extensive weapon modding system with real parts and Ammunition like M61 and M80 for 7.62x51, m855A1 and M995 for 5.56 | |||
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"Guns kill People And before you say people Kill People .. they won’t if no guns !" So war didnt exist before firearms? If somone is determined enough to kill somone they will do it with a cocktail stick if they could | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious." I’d say it’s a cultural thing it’s probably the normal for an American to go out armed with a gun than us brits or have I watched to many American cop shows  I recently watched a documentary on the Ford factory in Dagenham and at the time the typical British management at the time wore suits and a bowler hat but when the Ford management from America came over they strutted in in Levi’s cowboy boots and a Stetson | |||
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"I don't think we do have a distaste for guns themselves, more the idea of it being legal for them to be carried by just about anyone, and not only that the idea of it being legal to own automatic weapons or just walk into a shop and buy one if we want." Automatic weapons are actually rare as hens teeth and are extremely expensive Think the last time an automatic weapon was even used in america for a high profile crime might have been the LA shoot out in 1997 and those where illegaly modfied You also afaik cant just walk in and buy a fire arm, there is background checks and cooling off periods, it does change state to state though | |||
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"Dunblane. " Exactly. | |||
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"Dunblane. " This, and as an Australian, Port Arthur. | |||
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"Guns kill People And before you say people Kill People .. they won’t if no guns ! So war didnt exist before firearms? If somone is determined enough to kill somone they will do it with a cocktail stick if they could" Flower wire to be correct.. sharpen one end and then push into ear..leaves little to no trace and immediate death ( Sorry something picked up in army [not British or US before people ask] "how to kill not using semiautomatic rifle if SIG Sauer side arm. Guns give unsecure people a big ego boost, leading to all kind of problems. Britain is better off without guns freely available ( lived in New York 80's so got a bit of the "noise" at night ) | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing." We can get alot of weapons like yourself, i could get an AR 15 but it would be straight pull and not semi automatic. Plus you are looking at like $3000 price tag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4-_KAYnnDE | |||
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"My point is that people have a fear of the unknown. I shoot 3 gun with hubby. Yes I use the dreaded scary AR15 along wit a vr80 shotgun and a G19 glock. That being said it is a sport for me. Not a self protect issue. So I have the possibility of that getting banned for actions of people who do not not understand what said weapons are actually capable of. It's a media circus trying to pander to the fearful." You could probably handle a lot of things better than someone else but there's a lot of things that are illegal or tightly controlled because of the actions of the few who can't. That's what being apart of a society is. Why should your right to own guns be greater than someone's right not to die by shooting? Even if it isn't your gun that killed them? | |||
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"I don't think we do have a distaste for guns themselves, more the idea of it being legal for them to be carried by just about anyone, and not only that the idea of it being legal to own automatic weapons or just walk into a shop and buy one if we want. Automatic weapons are actually rare as hens teeth and are extremely expensive Think the last time an automatic weapon was even used in america for a high profile crime might have been the LA shoot out in 1997 and those where illegaly modfied You also afaik cant just walk in and buy a fire arm, there is background checks and cooling off periods, it does change state to state though" But my weapons are semi automatic not fully. Just like pistols you can't purchase fully automatic. I can take my m1 garand ww2 weapon and but rounds down range just the same. It's not a weapon issue it's a mental state issue. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing." I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. | |||
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"I don't think we do have a distaste for guns themselves, more the idea of it being legal for them to be carried by just about anyone, and not only that the idea of it being legal to own automatic weapons or just walk into a shop and buy one if we want. Automatic weapons are actually rare as hens teeth and are extremely expensive Think the last time an automatic weapon was even used in america for a high profile crime might have been the LA shoot out in 1997 and those where illegaly modfied You also afaik cant just walk in and buy a fire arm, there is background checks and cooling off periods, it does change state to state though But my weapons are semi automatic not fully. Just like pistols you can't purchase fully automatic. I can take my m1 garand ww2 weapon and but rounds down range just the same. It's not a weapon issue it's a mental state issue." I know you cant, think you maybe replying to wrong person Most people in the Uk wrongly think you are allowed full auto m4's. which is not the case at all From what i remember isnt it only weapons that where in circulation from before the 60's? | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious." There is a generation of us that grew up under the cloud of what happened at Dunblaine and the collective nation’s conscience was like “Ok, fuck this we don’t need guns if there are gonna be lunatics running around mass shooting people” That’s the main difference between the US and the UK. We don’t feel like guns make us any safer | |||
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"I don't think we do have a distaste for guns themselves, more the idea of it being legal for them to be carried by just about anyone, and not only that the idea of it being legal to own automatic weapons or just walk into a shop and buy one if we want. Automatic weapons are actually rare as hens teeth and are extremely expensive Think the last time an automatic weapon was even used in america for a high profile crime might have been the LA shoot out in 1997 and those where illegaly modfied You also afaik cant just walk in and buy a fire arm, there is background checks and cooling off periods, it does change state to state though But my weapons are semi automatic not fully. Just like pistols you can't purchase fully automatic. I can take my m1 garand ww2 weapon and but rounds down range just the same. It's not a weapon issue it's a mental state issue. I know you cant, think you maybe replying to wrong person Most people in the Uk wrongly think you are allowed full auto m4's. which is not the case at all From what i remember isnt it only weapons that where in circulation from before the 60's? " Yes sorry but you have to have a federal licence for fully automatic. | |||
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"Dunblane. This... how many schools have been subjected to massacres due to guns. 6 year olds in the states have to have ‘gun drills’ which fills me with horror! Guns should be banned and people that want to carry guns maybe should be shot and see how they like it. I carry all the time having 0 issues. It's a mental health issue not a gun issue. I agree with phycological examination before purchasing one. " Why on earth do you carry a weapon all the time? Is it to keep yourself safe because you fear you might be threatened by someone else with a gun. The problem in the US is that people have had the right to own guns for about 250 years. But that dates from a time when some people were required to join the militia or under threat from military or indigenous enemies. There are now so many guns in circulation and such entrenched attitudes about gun ownership that I think it would be unlikely for them to be surrendered in the event of a law banning guns. At least in the UK, when guns were banned following the Dunblane massacre, the vast majority of guns were handed in as people understood the need for it. Can you see that happening in America? | |||
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"Dunblane. This... how many schools have been subjected to massacres due to guns. 6 year olds in the states have to have ‘gun drills’ which fills me with horror! Guns should be banned and people that want to carry guns maybe should be shot and see how they like it. I carry all the time having 0 issues. It's a mental health issue not a gun issue. I agree with phycological examination before purchasing one. Why on earth do you carry a weapon all the time? Is it to keep yourself safe because you fear you might be threatened by someone else with a gun. The problem in the US is that people have had the right to own guns for about 250 years. But that dates from a time when some people were required to join the militia or under threat from military or indigenous enemies. There are now so many guns in circulation and such entrenched attitudes about gun ownership that I think it would be unlikely for them to be surrendered in the event of a law banning guns. At least in the UK, when guns were banned following the Dunblane massacre, the vast majority of guns were handed in as people understood the need for it. Can you see that happening in America?" See even people living here dont understand our fire arms law Guns where not banned after Dunblaine, Handguns of a certain length where. You can still buy and get a lisence for Handguns aslong as the barrel is a certain length | |||
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"Dunblane. This... how many schools have been subjected to massacres due to guns. 6 year olds in the states have to have ‘gun drills’ which fills me with horror! Guns should be banned and people that want to carry guns maybe should be shot and see how they like it. I carry all the time having 0 issues. It's a mental health issue not a gun issue. I agree with phycological examination before purchasing one. Why on earth do you carry a weapon all the time? Is it to keep yourself safe because you fear you might be threatened by someone else with a gun. The problem in the US is that people have had the right to own guns for about 250 years. But that dates from a time when some people were required to join the militia or under threat from military or indigenous enemies. There are now so many guns in circulation and such entrenched attitudes about gun ownership that I think it would be unlikely for them to be surrendered in the event of a law banning guns. At least in the UK, when guns were banned following the Dunblane massacre, the vast majority of guns were handed in as people understood the need for it. Can you see that happening in America? See even people living here dont understand our fire arms law Guns where not banned after Dunblaine, Handguns of a certain length where. You can still buy and get a lisence for Handguns aslong as the barrel is a certain length" Every politician here fears the dreaded AR . When truly it is handguns that are the issue. Media play ofc the the AR as if it is the demon of all weapons. I have a distaste for handguns but they are not the evil in the media eyes. | |||
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"For us it’s just not part of the culture here, U.K. wise have never really felt the need to have a gun, and think it’s a lot nicer being on the streets knowing that nobody else has one. At our place in the states we have guns, but even when we’re there we very rarely carry, it was honestly more of a we can have them so we do type thing, they spend 99% of the time in the gun safe unless we have the urge to take them out back to destroy some targets. And even then it’s only really when someone from the U.K. is with us and wants to try one out. Can’t say we really have ever felt the need to shoot anybody going about our normal lives. It's not the need to shoot someone it's the added protection as you are well aware of the states. " Protection from what or whom? | |||
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"Guns don't kill people. Rappers do. So do the police. Woop whoop woo. Credit:GLC " Saw them play live at uni, so bad that they are good! | |||
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"Dunblane. This... how many schools have been subjected to massacres due to guns. 6 year olds in the states have to have ‘gun drills’ which fills me with horror! Guns should be banned and people that want to carry guns maybe should be shot and see how they like it. I carry all the time having 0 issues. It's a mental health issue not a gun issue. I agree with phycological examination before purchasing one. Why on earth do you carry a weapon all the time? Is it to keep yourself safe because you fear you might be threatened by someone else with a gun. The problem in the US is that people have had the right to own guns for about 250 years. But that dates from a time when some people were required to join the militia or under threat from military or indigenous enemies. There are now so many guns in circulation and such entrenched attitudes about gun ownership that I think it would be unlikely for them to be surrendered in the event of a law banning guns. At least in the UK, when guns were banned following the Dunblane massacre, the vast majority of guns were handed in as people understood the need for it. Can you see that happening in America? See even people living here dont understand our fire arms law Guns where not banned after Dunblaine, Handguns of a certain length where. You can still buy and get a lisence for Handguns aslong as the barrel is a certain length Every politician here fears the dreaded AR . When truly it is handguns that are the issue. Media play ofc the the AR as if it is the demon of all weapons. I have a distaste for handguns but they are not the evil in the media eyes." Its because it looks scary and looks the same as a platform they may see in war films/ news ect Amount of people that think AR stands for Assault Rifle is unreal. Think alot of stems just from pure ignorance and a geniune lack of interest Plus you mostly ever hear the bad stories in this country instead of the stories of lives saved by firearms | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population." You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. | |||
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 just in case someone somewhere might want to start shooting.
Americans say they need a gun to feel safe but if everyone did not carry a gun you would not need to.
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics." I think in this country aswell its very much a class thing Guns are seen as what rich landowners use to shoot pheasant or grouse. Which is seen by alot of urban/suburban people to be an upper class sport. Same as Skeet or Clay pigeon shooting and stuff like that | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious." Its not distaste, its just a different culture over here. We don’t have second amendment cults like the NRA or the military industrial complex you have in the USA. | |||
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"Dunblane. This... how many schools have been subjected to massacres due to guns. 6 year olds in the states have to have ‘gun drills’ which fills me with horror! Guns should be banned and people that want to carry guns maybe should be shot and see how they like it. I carry all the time having 0 issues. It's a mental health issue not a gun issue. I agree with phycological examination before purchasing one. Why on earth do you carry a weapon all the time? Is it to keep yourself safe because you fear you might be threatened by someone else with a gun. The problem in the US is that people have had the right to own guns for about 250 years. But that dates from a time when some people were required to join the militia or under threat from military or indigenous enemies. There are now so many guns in circulation and such entrenched attitudes about gun ownership that I think it would be unlikely for them to be surrendered in the event of a law banning guns. At least in the UK, when guns were banned following the Dunblane massacre, the vast majority of guns were handed in as people understood the need for it. Can you see that happening in America? See even people living here dont understand our fire arms law Guns where not banned after Dunblaine, Handguns of a certain length where. You can still buy and get a lisence for Handguns aslong as the barrel is a certain length Every politician here fears the dreaded AR . When truly it is handguns that are the issue. Media play ofc the the AR as if it is the demon of all weapons. I have a distaste for handguns but they are not the evil in the media eyes. Its because it looks scary and looks the same as a platform they may see in war films/ news ect Amount of people that think AR stands for Assault Rifle is unreal. Think alot of stems just from pure ignorance and a geniune lack of interest Plus you mostly ever hear the bad stories in this country instead of the stories of lives saved by firearms " Exactly it's a versatile platform I enjoy. But it is played as the most evil weapon on the planet. | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious. Its not distaste, its just a different culture over here. We don’t have second amendment cults like the NRA or the military industrial complex you have in the USA. " We are one of the biggest and best arms manufacturers in the world | |||
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"Guns don't kill people. Rappers do. So do the police. Woop whoop woo. Credit:GLC Saw them play live at uni, so bad that they are good!" awesome!! | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious. Its not distaste, its just a different culture over here. We don’t have second amendment cults like the NRA or the military industrial complex you have in the USA. We are one of the biggest and best arms manufacturers in the world" Would love a SA 80 but they are expensive here. | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious. Its not distaste, its just a different culture over here. We don’t have second amendment cults like the NRA or the military industrial complex you have in the USA. We are one of the biggest and best arms manufacturers in the world Would love a SA 80 but they are expensive here." I am 5'2 fired one it's a great rifle for someone my size. | |||
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"I do hate them. I have a son and the statistics for boys killing themselves with guns is horrendous. " Sorry but if you are worried your son may be in the 2.5% of suicides committed with firearms then the 97.5% committed by other methods must terrify you! | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics." But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious. Its not distaste, its just a different culture over here. We don’t have second amendment cults like the NRA or the military industrial complex you have in the USA. We are one of the biggest and best arms manufacturers in the world Would love a SA 80 but they are expensive here." An A3/A2 maybe, have not heard good things about the previous A1. H&K Had to fix the A1 for us lol | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. " No I do not I harvest and use the meat. Donate to local food kitchens and my own household. In these trying to.es I helped alot of families here put food on the table for their children. Is 5hst so horrendous ? | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. " Hunters genrally eat what they shoot unless you shooting unedible vermin or you are large trophy hunter which is very much a niche thing now It's definelty not something that is easy as you think | |||
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"and think it’s a lot nicer being on the streets knowing that nobody else has one. " I hope you don’t believe this is true, every other wannabe gangster has a handgun now, Romanians bring them in on the minibuses when coming over to work here, sold on the black market it pays their travel expenses! Far more illegal firearms on the street post Dunblane! | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. No I do not I harvest and use the meat. Donate to local food kitchens and my own household. In these trying to.es I helped alot of families here put food on the table for their children. Is 5hst so horrendous ?" I'm afraid yes, it is. You enjoy killing animals. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. Hunters genrally eat what they shoot unless you shooting unedible vermin or you are large trophy hunter which is very much a niche thing now It's definelty not something that is easy as you think" I didn't say, or think, it is easy. I just find the idea of stalking animals & getting pleasure out of shooting them abhorrent. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. No I do not I harvest and use the meat. Donate to local food kitchens and my own household. In these trying to.es I helped alot of families here put food on the table for their children. Is 5hst so horrendous ? I'm afraid yes, it is. You enjoy killing animals. " I do hope you are Vegitarian atleast then | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics." I'm not saying you should give up anything personally. Whatever the government over there does, doesn't work. As evidenced by the number of people shot to death every year. Probably the first step is to restrict the way the NRA funds both main parties. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics." A common misconception is the idea that the Bill (police) are all unarmed. this isn't true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom As for the differing attitudes to guns, we never had the Wild West and a cowboy culture, so guns were something that was on telly, in films and books. Restraint is a very British thing: power lust is very American. Question: where do the Canadians fit in, when it comes to gun ownership and all it entails? | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. Hunters genrally eat what they shoot unless you shooting unedible vermin or you are large trophy hunter which is very much a niche thing now It's definelty not something that is easy as you think I didn't say, or think, it is easy. I just find the idea of stalking animals & getting pleasure out of shooting them abhorrent. " There is over 1 million deer on pennsylvania. I have been out in the woods where I seen yearlings die because of the herd cannot sustain itself in the winter. They starved to death. Young does and bucks. 0 predators except man. Say what you will culling the heard saves that suffering. I do not " sport hunt " aka kill predators and pretty animals for thier hides and mounts. I hunt out of compassion. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. No I do not I harvest and use the meat. Donate to local food kitchens and my own household. In these trying to.es I helped alot of families here put food on the table for their children. Is 5hst so horrendous ? I'm afraid yes, it is. You enjoy killing animals. " But they've explained that they harvest the meat for their own consumption as well as providing meat for others as well. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. Hunters genrally eat what they shoot unless you shooting unedible vermin or you are large trophy hunter which is very much a niche thing now It's definelty not something that is easy as you think I didn't say, or think, it is easy. I just find the idea of stalking animals & getting pleasure out of shooting them abhorrent. " The pleasure is putting something on your plate that you have worked for and put effort into. You cant just really pick up a rifle and wander into the words and go hunting and expect to get anything really. It can take hundreds hours of practice to even get in to a position to even get to take a shot, let alone actually hitting anything Hunters are also genrally a lot more thankful for the meat they consure than somone who has wanded into Sainsburys to buy a packet of mince What are you going to do if the electricity suddenly stops? Or in the event of a natural disaster. You think these thing are ridiculous to even think about in the mordern world? 200 years ago a volcano erupted causing a year without a summer, crops failed around the world and millions starved to death. | |||
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"Dunblane. This... how many schools have been subjected to massacres due to guns. 6 year olds in the states have to have ‘gun drills’ which fills me with horror! Guns should be banned and people that want to carry guns maybe should be shot and see how they like it. I carry all the time having 0 issues. It's a mental health issue not a gun issue. I agree with phycological examination before purchasing one. Why on earth do you carry a weapon all the time? Is it to keep yourself safe because you fear you might be threatened by someone else with a gun. The problem in the US is that people have had the right to own guns for about 250 years. But that dates from a time when some people were required to join the militia or under threat from military or indigenous enemies. There are now so many guns in circulation and such entrenched attitudes about gun ownership that I think it would be unlikely for them to be surrendered in the event of a law banning guns. At least in the UK, when guns were banned following the Dunblane massacre, the vast majority of guns were handed in as people understood the need for it. Can you see that happening in America? See even people living here dont understand our fire arms law Guns where not banned after Dunblaine, Handguns of a certain length where. You can still buy and get a lisence for Handguns aslong as the barrel is a certain length" I am aware of the law. I used the word 'guns' for simplicity sake in what was already a wordy post. I was a primary school teacher at the time of Dunblane, so paid a lot of attention to how the law progressed. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. Hunters genrally eat what they shoot unless you shooting unedible vermin or you are large trophy hunter which is very much a niche thing now It's definelty not something that is easy as you think I didn't say, or think, it is easy. I just find the idea of stalking animals & getting pleasure out of shooting them abhorrent. There is over 1 million deer on pennsylvania. I have been out in the woods where I seen yearlings die because of the herd cannot sustain itself in the winter. They starved to death. Young does and bucks. 0 predators except man. Say what you will culling the heard saves that suffering. I do not " sport hunt " aka kill predators and pretty animals for thier hides and mounts. I hunt out of compassion." So you DON'T enjoy shooting animals? You do it out of "compassion" and no other reason? The way you talk about wanting different guns leads me to think you DO enjoy killing. And I use this same argument for UK farmers who regularly shoot (predators). | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. A common misconception is the idea that the Bill (police) are all unarmed. this isn't true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom As for the differing attitudes to guns, we never had the Wild West and a cowboy culture, so guns were something that was on telly, in films and books. Restraint is a very British thing: power lust is very American. Question: where do the Canadians fit in, when it comes to gun ownership and all it entails?" Apprantly you can tell which police car is armed response as they have the asterix on them Was told that by an Army Firearms trainer, so take as you will. Maybe a policeman would inform us if that was true or not, but i doubt they would even be allowed to say | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. Hunters genrally eat what they shoot unless you shooting unedible vermin or you are large trophy hunter which is very much a niche thing now It's definelty not something that is easy as you think I didn't say, or think, it is easy. I just find the idea of stalking animals & getting pleasure out of shooting them abhorrent. The pleasure is putting something on your plate that you have worked for and put effort into. You cant just really pick up a rifle and wander into the words and go hunting and expect to get anything really. It can take hundreds hours of practice to even get in to a position to even get to take a shot, let alone actually hitting anything Hunters are also genrally a lot more thankful for the meat they consure than somone who has wanded into Sainsburys to buy a packet of mince What are you going to do if the electricity suddenly stops? Or in the event of a natural disaster. You think these thing are ridiculous to even think about in the mordern world? 200 years ago a volcano erupted causing a year without a summer, crops failed around the world and millions starved to death. " Did the question about the stopping of electricity, get answered when Texas had that nasty frost and lost a lot poewer? | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. Hunters genrally eat what they shoot unless you shooting unedible vermin or you are large trophy hunter which is very much a niche thing now It's definelty not something that is easy as you think I didn't say, or think, it is easy. I just find the idea of stalking animals & getting pleasure out of shooting them abhorrent. The pleasure is putting something on your plate that you have worked for and put effort into. You cant just really pick up a rifle and wander into the words and go hunting and expect to get anything really. It can take hundreds hours of practice to even get in to a position to even get to take a shot, let alone actually hitting anything Hunters are also genrally a lot more thankful for the meat they consure than somone who has wanded into Sainsburys to buy a packet of mince What are you going to do if the electricity suddenly stops? Or in the event of a natural disaster. You think these thing are ridiculous to even think about in the mordern world? 200 years ago a volcano erupted causing a year without a summer, crops failed around the world and millions starved to death. " Then people scream about how each countries standard for meat processing is bad. I choose my direct source. If I can save a couple yearlings by taking out some of the older herd and provide some sustinance to other family's and homeless people well call me a bad woman idc. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. Hunters genrally eat what they shoot unless you shooting unedible vermin or you are large trophy hunter which is very much a niche thing now It's definelty not something that is easy as you think I didn't say, or think, it is easy. I just find the idea of stalking animals & getting pleasure out of shooting them abhorrent. There is over 1 million deer on pennsylvania. I have been out in the woods where I seen yearlings die because of the herd cannot sustain itself in the winter. They starved to death. Young does and bucks. 0 predators except man. Say what you will culling the heard saves that suffering. I do not " sport hunt " aka kill predators and pretty animals for thier hides and mounts. I hunt out of compassion. So you DON'T enjoy shooting animals? You do it out of "compassion" and no other reason? The way you talk about wanting different guns leads me to think you DO enjoy killing. And I use this same argument for UK farmers who regularly shoot (predators)." Why would I shoot predators we have black bears wolves and coyotes. They are a natural preservation to culling the herd but unfortunately in the past they were hunted too. I do not hunt them I respect thier contribution | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. A common misconception is the idea that the Bill (police) are all unarmed. this isn't true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom As for the differing attitudes to guns, we never had the Wild West and a cowboy culture, so guns were something that was on telly, in films and books. Restraint is a very British thing: power lust is very American. Question: where do the Canadians fit in, when it comes to gun ownership and all it entails? Apprantly you can tell which police car is armed response as they have the asterix on them Was told that by an Army Firearms trainer, so take as you will. Maybe a policeman would inform us if that was true or not, but i doubt they would even be allowed to say" Ex cops here. Wolf is an ex ctsfo so can confirm the asterisk marks an armed vehicle | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. Hunters genrally eat what they shoot unless you shooting unedible vermin or you are large trophy hunter which is very much a niche thing now It's definelty not something that is easy as you think I didn't say, or think, it is easy. I just find the idea of stalking animals & getting pleasure out of shooting them abhorrent. The pleasure is putting something on your plate that you have worked for and put effort into. You cant just really pick up a rifle and wander into the words and go hunting and expect to get anything really. It can take hundreds hours of practice to even get in to a position to even get to take a shot, let alone actually hitting anything Hunters are also genrally a lot more thankful for the meat they consure than somone who has wanded into Sainsburys to buy a packet of mince What are you going to do if the electricity suddenly stops? Or in the event of a natural disaster. You think these thing are ridiculous to even think about in the mordern world? 200 years ago a volcano erupted causing a year without a summer, crops failed around the world and millions starved to death. Then people scream about how each countries standard for meat processing is bad. I choose my direct source. If I can save a couple yearlings by taking out some of the older herd and provide some sustinance to other family's and homeless people well call me a bad woman idc. " There are very few places in the UK where you could do this. Most land is privately owned and the right of the general public limited. Elsewhere if its in public ownership, then just about everything on it is protected. Look at the map, we are a very different country. We have no area I would call wild. We therefore don't (apart from in a very small way) have that "frontier culture", and don't really need it. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. But you say you go hunting? Does that mean you kill animals for pleasure? Not my idea of a hobby, or a sport. Hunters genrally eat what they shoot unless you shooting unedible vermin or you are large trophy hunter which is very much a niche thing now It's definelty not something that is easy as you think I didn't say, or think, it is easy. I just find the idea of stalking animals & getting pleasure out of shooting them abhorrent. The pleasure is putting something on your plate that you have worked for and put effort into. You cant just really pick up a rifle and wander into the words and go hunting and expect to get anything really. It can take hundreds hours of practice to even get in to a position to even get to take a shot, let alone actually hitting anything Hunters are also genrally a lot more thankful for the meat they consure than somone who has wanded into Sainsburys to buy a packet of mince What are you going to do if the electricity suddenly stops? Or in the event of a natural disaster. You think these thing are ridiculous to even think about in the mordern world? 200 years ago a volcano erupted causing a year without a summer, crops failed around the world and millions starved to death. Then people scream about how each countries standard for meat processing is bad. I choose my direct source. If I can save a couple yearlings by taking out some of the older herd and provide some sustinance to other family's and homeless people well call me a bad woman idc. There are very few places in the UK where you could do this. Most land is privately owned and the right of the general public limited. Elsewhere if its in public ownership, then just about everything on it is protected. Look at the map, we are a very different country. We have no area I would call wild. We therefore don't (apart from in a very small way) have that "frontier culture", and don't really need it. " But where I live there is constantly deer getting hit by cars. Elk the same we get put down for hunting because of that wildness. I had bears in my backyard that my daschund had cornered. Yes a bear in a tree because a tiny dog . It is alot different were I live compared to other parts of the world. It is frontier ish. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing." Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). | |||
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"We have people start a fight for a laugh, imagine if those people got hold of a gun." I carry all the time I know when and not to use it. Lethal force is a training you earn and respect and know when to respond. | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious." In 1996 when 16 5 and 6 year olds were murdered in their school the UK felt it was one too many. Not sure how many more the US need to do something about it. The shock of one was enough. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock)." You have bears coyotes or wolves ? I have Barret crossbows for hunting to and compound bows for archery season. It is less humane then a longgun. I prefer not to use archery when I do not have to the animal suffers more. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock)." It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. I don't know why the countries have different attitudes. The reason I'm sceptical about the availability of guns in the states is the number of children especially, that get shot and killed. A hobby doesn't seem worth the loss of life that comes from having a heavily armed population. You honestly think criminals are going to give theirs up if I give up mine. I do not shoot people it's a sport just like sport shooting in the olympics. A common misconception is the idea that the Bill (police) are all unarmed. this isn't true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom As for the differing attitudes to guns, we never had the Wild West and a cowboy culture, so guns were something that was on telly, in films and books. Restraint is a very British thing: power lust is very American. Question: where do the Canadians fit in, when it comes to gun ownership and all it entails? Apprantly you can tell which police car is armed response as they have the asterix on them Was told that by an Army Firearms trainer, so take as you will. Maybe a policeman would inform us if that was true or not, but i doubt they would even be allowed to say Ex cops here. Wolf is an ex ctsfo so can confirm the asterisk marks an armed vehicle " I was told correct then, the guy did train ctsfo and similar apprantly | |||
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"We have people start a fight for a laugh, imagine if those people got hold of a gun. I carry all the time I know when and not to use it. Lethal force is a training you earn and respect and know when to respond. " But clearly not everyone is as responsible as you. You seem to think just because you are an upstanding gun carrying person then its OK. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm?" I was talking about U.S. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm?" I was thinking this 
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm?" Yes I have I live in a rual area deer population foxes at hen houses and coyotes. But I do not hunt the predators. They are part of the a eco system that needs to be maintained. | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious." I don't have a distaste for them at all, I enjoy shooting them when I visit the USA and I wish we could have proper shooting ranges in the UK. However I am glad that private ownership is more or less illegal here as I do think that more guns equates to more shootings and there is not any real reason for people to need to have one in their home. I totally understand too why the situation and mindset is different in the USA and why it is not possible or in best interests to ban firearms outright. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S." Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. | |||
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"We have people start a fight for a laugh, imagine if those people got hold of a gun. I carry all the time I know when and not to use it. Lethal force is a training you earn and respect and know when to respond. But clearly not everyone is as responsible as you. You seem to think just because you are an upstanding gun carrying person then its OK. " It is about 99 %of gun ownership that is responsible owners. If you notice it's is inner cities that have the most problems with gun culture not us rual people. | |||
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"We have people start a fight for a laugh, imagine if those people got hold of a gun. I carry all the time I know when and not to use it. Lethal force is a training you earn and respect and know when to respond. " That doesn't mean everyone will be like you. | |||
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"We have people start a fight for a laugh, imagine if those people got hold of a gun. I carry all the time I know when and not to use it. Lethal force is a training you earn and respect and know when to respond. But clearly not everyone is as responsible as you. You seem to think just because you are an upstanding gun carrying person then its OK. It is about 99 %of gun ownership that is responsible owners. If you notice it's is inner cities that have the most problems with gun culture not us rual people." You ever been to East London? | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. " I have a heart for animals I drew on one that I did not complete get a clean kill with my compound bow. Hence why I do not bow hunt anymore I not good at it. I do not have the correct strength as a woman to get a clean shot. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. " I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill. | |||
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"We have people start a fight for a laugh, imagine if those people got hold of a gun. I carry all the time I know when and not to use it. Lethal force is a training you earn and respect and know when to respond. But clearly not everyone is as responsible as you. You seem to think just because you are an upstanding gun carrying person then its OK. It is about 99 %of gun ownership that is responsible owners. If you notice it's is inner cities that have the most problems with gun culture not us rual people. You ever been to East London?" I do find it slightly ironic in the US, that the urban areas where the public cannot carry a firearm for self defence have the highest street robbery/assault rates. | |||
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"No matter how you want to justfy owning guns (protection, sport, culling, compassion and even charity ffs!) those objects that you love so much are made explicitly to kill other living creatures. Is that not reason enough to find them distasteful? " Another misconception. Many are made explicitly for clay and target shooting disciplines. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill." It does with proper training . | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm?" We protect sheep and their lambs from being savaged and killed by the dogs of highly irresponsible owners. Lost half a dozen the other day to a dog attack, unfortunately the person who intervened did not have access too a shot gun at the time ,otherwise the dog would have been shot there and then. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill. It does with proper training ." It doesn't, you're not perfect, you make mistakes no matter how much of an expert you are. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill." Oooh no if I went hiking in America’s frontier I’d be armed. Don’t fancy becoming a bears snack
A rifle is easier to use when hunting tho. A bow requires a lot more skill. A rifle with good sights would be more likely to actually kill the animal in one shot. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill." What do you define as semi automatic. I can use use a mossberg 500 to the same affect. That is not semi it is a pump action. Or my 30/30lever action I can achieve the same action or my 8mm mauser a german bolt action. Same effect. You see with the right amount of training and usefulness there is no difference. | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious." I suspect that it's related to the ease of death that they facilitate. I personally think we need less ways of killing people rather than more. Cal | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill. Oooh no if I went hiking in America’s frontier I’d be armed. Don’t fancy becoming a bears snack
A rifle is easier to use when hunting tho. A bow requires a lot more skill. A rifle with good sights would be more likely to actually kill the animal in one shot. "You don't need a gun for that. There's bear spray etc. You point a gun at the bear, miss the shot from fear and it hits a hiker down the trail by accident. Would you take a gun to trail again after that? | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill. Oooh no if I went hiking in America’s frontier I’d be armed. Don’t fancy becoming a bears snack
A rifle is easier to use when hunting tho. A bow requires a lot more skill. A rifle with good sights would be more likely to actually kill the animal in one shot.
You don't need a gun for that. There's bear spray etc.
You point a gun at the bear, miss the shot from fear and it hits a hiker down the trail by accident.
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill. Oooh no if I went hiking in America’s frontier I’d be armed. Don’t fancy becoming a bears snack
A rifle is easier to use when hunting tho. A bow requires a lot more skill. A rifle with good sights would be more likely to actually kill the animal in one shot.
You don't need a gun for that. There's bear spray etc.
You point a gun at the bear, miss the shot from fear and it hits a hiker down the trail by accident.
Would you take a gun to trail again after that?"Fuck yes! You’re barking up the wrong tree if you’re trying to change my mind about guns I’m sorry
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S." That’s even mor tragic, your commenting on a foreign nations firearms policy! | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. That’s even mor tragic, your commenting on a foreign nations firearms policy!" OH no! Please don't put me in jail for speaking my mind! | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill." Taking a rifle in certain areas is a necessity to protect yourself for certain animals. Areas like Alaska and other wild areas you might aswell season yourself with salt and pepper if you are not carrying a rifle Glenn Villeneuve who lived in the wilds of alsaka for example had to shoot multiple wolves that attacked him | |||
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"No matter how you want to justfy owning guns (protection, sport, culling, compassion and even charity ffs!) those objects that you love so much are made explicitly to kill other living creatures. Is that not reason enough to find them distasteful? Another misconception. Many are made explicitly for clay and target shooting disciplines." That's a slippery semantic point that I will concede, but the bottom line is that guns would never have been invented without the need or desire to kill. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill. Oooh no if I went hiking in America’s frontier I’d be armed. Don’t fancy becoming a bears snack
A rifle is easier to use when hunting tho. A bow requires a lot more skill. A rifle with good sights would be more likely to actually kill the animal in one shot.
You don't need a gun for that. There's bear spray etc.
You point a gun at the bear, miss the shot from fear and it hits a hiker down the trail by accident.
Would you take a gun to trail again after that?
Fuck yes! You’re barking up the wrong tree if you’re trying to change my mind about guns I’m sorry
I’m not scared of firearms. Wolf has taken me shooting several times. And I’m a very good shot with a rifle "See, I wouldn't want to have an innocent life on my conscience. I also don't think people who are comfortable with that should own guns. Everyone is very good at something until they make a tragic mistake. | |||
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"a gun never killed anyone... guns can be an incredible tool when needed legally.. its the dickheads that pull the trigger that is the main problem" ‘There are no dangerous weapons; there are only dangerous men’ - Heinlein | |||
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"a gun never killed anyone... guns can be an incredible tool when needed legally.. its the dickheads that pull the trigger that is the main problem" Ahh yes, we should legalize owning bombs too since they don't kill people, it's the people who use them. Makes perfect sense | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill. Oooh no if I went hiking in America’s frontier I’d be armed. Don’t fancy becoming a bears snack
A rifle is easier to use when hunting tho. A bow requires a lot more skill. A rifle with good sights would be more likely to actually kill the animal in one shot.
You don't need a gun for that. There's bear spray etc.
You point a gun at the bear, miss the shot from fear and it hits a hiker down the trail by accident.
Would you take a gun to trail again after that?
Fuck yes! You’re barking up the wrong tree if you’re trying to change my mind about guns I’m sorry
I’m not scared of firearms. Wolf has taken me shooting several times. And I’m a very good shot with a rifle
See, I wouldn't want to have an innocent life on my conscience.
I also don't think people who are comfortable with that should own guns.
Everyone is very good at something until they make a tragic mistake."Do you drive, how many innocent people have been killed with cars mane ban cars too? | |||
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"a gun never killed anyone... guns can be an incredible tool when needed legally.. its the dickheads that pull the trigger that is the main problem Ahh yes, we should legalize owning bombs too since they don't kill people, it's the people who use them. Makes perfect sense "OMG right you really do need to do some research, bombs are legal!!! You just need the correct authority to possess one, they are controlled but no illegal unless you possess without authority. | |||
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"I don't think we do have a distaste for guns themselves, more the idea of it being legal for them to be carried by just about anyone, and not only that the idea of it being legal to own automatic weapons or just walk into a shop and buy one if we want." Poorly imformed,go try to walk into a shop and buy a firearm other than an air gun. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill. Oooh no if I went hiking in America’s frontier I’d be armed. Don’t fancy becoming a bears snack
A rifle is easier to use when hunting tho. A bow requires a lot more skill. A rifle with good sights would be more likely to actually kill the animal in one shot.
You don't need a gun for that. There's bear spray etc.
You point a gun at the bear, miss the shot from fear and it hits a hiker down the trail by accident.
Would you take a gun to trail again after that?
Fuck yes! You’re barking up the wrong tree if you’re trying to change my mind about guns I’m sorry
I’m not scared of firearms. Wolf has taken me shooting several times. And I’m a very good shot with a rifle
See, I wouldn't want to have an innocent life on my conscience.
I also don't think people who are comfortable with that should own guns.
Everyone is very good at something until they make a tragic mistake.
Do you drive, how many innocent people have been killed with cars mane ban cars too?"Why don't we make fully automatic guns, tanks, and all weapons of mass destruction legal? I mean it's the people who kill not the weapons right? | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill. Oooh no if I went hiking in America’s frontier I’d be armed. Don’t fancy becoming a bears snack
A rifle is easier to use when hunting tho. A bow requires a lot more skill. A rifle with good sights would be more likely to actually kill the animal in one shot.
You don't need a gun for that. There's bear spray etc.
You point a gun at the bear, miss the shot from fear and it hits a hiker down the trail by accident.
Would you take a gun to trail again after that?
Fuck yes! You’re barking up the wrong tree if you’re trying to change my mind about guns I’m sorry
I’m not scared of firearms. Wolf has taken me shooting several times. And I’m a very good shot with a rifle
See, I wouldn't want to have an innocent life on my conscience.
I also don't think people who are comfortable with that should own guns.
Everyone is very good at something until they make a tragic mistake.
Do you drive, how many innocent people have been killed with cars mane ban cars too?
Why don't we make fully automatic guns, tanks, and all weapons of mass destruction legal? I mean it's the people who kill not the weapons right?"All above fully legal but controlled! | |||
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"Because they kill? X" Are you more dead from a misused firearm than a misused blade, blunt instrument, drug, alcohol, motor vehicle? | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill. Oooh no if I went hiking in America’s frontier I’d be armed. Don’t fancy becoming a bears snack
A rifle is easier to use when hunting tho. A bow requires a lot more skill. A rifle with good sights would be more likely to actually kill the animal in one shot.
You don't need a gun for that. There's bear spray etc.
You point a gun at the bear, miss the shot from fear and it hits a hiker down the trail by accident.
Would you take a gun to trail again after that?
Fuck yes! You’re barking up the wrong tree if you’re trying to change my mind about guns I’m sorry
I’m not scared of firearms. Wolf has taken me shooting several times. And I’m a very good shot with a rifle
See, I wouldn't want to have an innocent life on my conscience.
I also don't think people who are comfortable with that should own guns.
Everyone is very good at something until they make a tragic mistake.
Do you drive, how many innocent people have been killed with cars mane ban cars too?
Why don't we make fully automatic guns, tanks, and all weapons of mass destruction legal? I mean it's the people who kill not the weapons right?
All above fully legal but controlled!"Really? Do you think the government would be happy for you to own a nuke with the ability to use it? | |||
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"a gun never killed anyone... guns can be an incredible tool when needed legally.. its the dickheads that pull the trigger that is the main problem Ahh yes, we should legalize owning bombs too since they don't kill people, it's the people who use them. Makes perfect sense "But then there has been terrorism with lorry's and knives. Excuse my americanism we call them trucks. It is a fact people are going to kill with what they consider the best means available. Do we as a people ban every tragic event according to the weapon of choice. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill. Oooh no if I went hiking in America’s frontier I’d be armed. Don’t fancy becoming a bears snack
A rifle is easier to use when hunting tho. A bow requires a lot more skill. A rifle with good sights would be more likely to actually kill the animal in one shot.
You don't need a gun for that. There's bear spray etc.
You point a gun at the bear, miss the shot from fear and it hits a hiker down the trail by accident.
Would you take a gun to trail again after that?
Fuck yes! You’re barking up the wrong tree if you’re trying to change my mind about guns I’m sorry
I’m not scared of firearms. Wolf has taken me shooting several times. And I’m a very good shot with a rifle
See, I wouldn't want to have an innocent life on my conscience.
I also don't think people who are comfortable with that should own guns.
Everyone is very good at something until they make a tragic mistake.
Do you drive, how many innocent people have been killed with cars mane ban cars too?
Why don't we make fully automatic guns, tanks, and all weapons of mass destruction legal? I mean it's the people who kill not the weapons right?
All above fully legal but controlled!
Really? Do you think the government would be happy for you to own a nuke with the ability to use it?"You can own and fire a main tank cannon in this country You just have to fire AP shells not HE | |||
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"Dunblane. This... how many schools have been subjected to massacres due to guns. 6 year olds in the states have to have ‘gun drills’ which fills me with horror! Guns should be banned and people that want to carry guns maybe should be shot and see how they like it. I carry all the time having 0 issues. It's a mental health issue not a gun issue. I agree with phycological examination before purchasing one. " If guns were illegal in the states you wouldn’t have children being killed ... since dunblane we have had no gun massacres in schools. Just that is enough of a reason not to allow guns to be bought so freely. Children being killed in school is just not balanced along with a nations entitled right to ‘bear arms’ or whatever the nonsense is. | |||
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"a gun never killed anyone... guns can be an incredible tool when needed legally.. its the dickheads that pull the trigger that is the main problem Ahh yes, we should legalize owning bombs too since they don't kill people, it's the people who use them. Makes perfect sense
But then there has been terrorism with lorry's and knives. Excuse my americanism we call them trucks. It is a fact people are going to kill with what they consider the best means available. Do we as a people ban every tragic event according to the weapon of choice."No but that is why we MINIMIZE the risk. You can't commit a mass stabbing mass vehicle mauling as easily as you could with guns. The point is to minimize the risk, not eliminate it. We don't wear the masks during the pandemic to STOP the spread of the virus, we wear them to minimize it. | |||
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"It's by no means my original post a disparaging twords anyone I trying just to get a different view on why. We are a gun culture I hunt and enjoy shooting. Why should I give that up. It's just a interesting point of view because there is no access for UK citizens to the type of weapons we have. Sources of non gun culture is intriguing. Why on Earth would anyone need to OWN a gun? If you want it for sport, go to a shooting range, rent a gun and use it there. If you want to hunt, use a bow or crossbow. There is 0 need for people owning rifles and shotguns (I don't know about farmers, I think they use to protect livestock). It is best to have at least a basic understanding of a subject before offering an opinion, someone may read your comments and actually believe you know what your talking about. In the U.K. you cannot just go to a range and shoot (with a few exceptions), it is illegal to use a bow or crossbow to hunt in the U.K. as per wildlife and countryside act. What are farmers protecting livestock from, have you ever been on a farm? I was talking about U.S. Ok but as the OP has stated, they have wolves, coyotes and bears in their garden, well worth having a gun to defend yourself from them. I don’t think hunting with a bow is particularly humane. Not to mention stressful for the animal as you’d then have to track it as a bow wouldn’t kill it in one blow. I don't remember tourists taking guns on hikes to protect themselves from bears, wolves and coyotes. Even if they had to protect livestock, there is no need to have a long range semi automatic rifle for that. Furthermore if they leave their property the gun should be left in a locked safe storage within the property and not walked with on the streets. Hunting with bullets also doesn't guarantee a clean kill. Oooh no if I went hiking in America’s frontier I’d be armed. Don’t fancy becoming a bears snack
A rifle is easier to use when hunting tho. A bow requires a lot more skill. A rifle with good sights would be more likely to actually kill the animal in one shot.
You don't need a gun for that. There's bear spray etc.
You point a gun at the bear, miss the shot from fear and it hits a hiker down the trail by accident.
Would you take a gun to trail again after that?
Fuck yes! You’re barking up the wrong tree if you’re trying to change my mind about guns I’m sorry
I’m not scared of firearms. Wolf has taken me shooting several times. And I’m a very good shot with a rifle
See, I wouldn't want to have an innocent life on my conscience.
I also don't think people who are comfortable with that should own guns.
Everyone is very good at something until they make a tragic mistake.
Do you drive, how many innocent people have been killed with cars mane ban cars too?
Why don't we make fully automatic guns, tanks, and all weapons of mass destruction legal? I mean it's the people who kill not the weapons right?
All above fully legal but controlled!
Really? Do you think the government would be happy for you to own a nuke with the ability to use it?"You misconstrue my explanation, you keep using the word illegal and there is no such thing as an illegal firearm, bomb, tank etc, however a firearm can be illegally held by a person not authorised, however the firearm never becomes illegal, it is just an inanimate object that cannot change state. | |||
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"a gun never killed anyone... guns can be an incredible tool when needed legally.. its the dickheads that pull the trigger that is the main problem Ahh yes, we should legalize owning bombs too since they don't kill people, it's the people who use them. Makes perfect sense
But then there has been terrorism with lorry's and knives. Excuse my americanism we call them trucks. It is a fact people are going to kill with what they consider the best means available. Do we as a people ban every tragic event according to the weapon of choice.
No but that is why we MINIMIZE the risk.
You can't commit a mass stabbing mass vehicle mauling as easily as you could with guns.
The point is to minimize the risk, not eliminate it.
We don't wear the masks during the pandemic to STOP the spread of the virus, we wear them to minimize it."Nice Truck attack was 86 dead Vegas Mass shooting 60 dead | |||
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"a gun never killed anyone... guns can be an incredible tool when needed legally.. its the dickheads that pull the trigger that is the main problem Ahh yes, we should legalize owning bombs too since they don't kill people, it's the people who use them. Makes perfect sense
But then there has been terrorism with lorry's and knives. Excuse my americanism we call them trucks. It is a fact people are going to kill with what they consider the best means available. Do we as a people ban every tragic event according to the weapon of choice.
No but that is why we MINIMIZE the risk.
You can't commit a mass stabbing mass vehicle mauling as easily as you could with guns.
The point is to minimize the risk, not eliminate it.
We don't wear the masks during the pandemic to STOP the spread of the virus, we wear them to minimize it."And yet since the start of the the pandemic here gun sales are at a all time high. Surely it evolves around a safety issue. People's distrust in mankind. | |||
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"The big difference is that guns are design exclusively for killing, that is the sole reason they exist. Vehicles have other uses too." It’s been pointed out already that this just isn’t true | |||
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"The big difference is that guns are design exclusively for killing, that is the sole reason they exist. Vehicles have other uses too." So are knives and yet they still have the same effect. Do we ban them ? | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious." i dont think the people of the UK have a distaste for guns just a total indiferance its not like we need a gun in this country so why bother ?if they are interested they join a gun club and scratch that itch untill theyre heart is content .outside of the agricultural industry where guns are used for pest control nobody needs a gun outside of this shooting is seen as a sport and like any sport unless your interested in it why buy the equipment . | |||
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"The big difference is that guns are design exclusively for killing, that is the sole reason they exist. Vehicles have other uses too." You fail to understand the sporting uses of firearms! | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious.i dont think the people of the UK have a distaste for guns just a total indiferance its not like we need a gun in this country so why bother ?if they are interested they join a gun club and scratch that itch untill theyre heart is content .outside of the agricultural industry where guns are used for pest control nobody needs a gun outside of this shooting is seen as a sport and like any sport unless your interested in it why buy the equipment ." This is the majority.. | |||
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"Because it's not a great idea to give every fuckwit under the sun a weapon that can kill?" But that not true at all is it Not every 'fuckwit under the sun' can own a firearm there is multiple reasons why you will fail a background check Federal law bans those who have been convicted of certain crimes from ever possessing firearms. Included in those crimes are all felonies and misdemeanor domestic violence offenses for example | |||
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"Because it's not a great idea to give every fuckwit under the sun a weapon that can kill?" If we are stopping fuckwits owning things that can kill you better hand in your car keys!!! Just kidding ?? | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious.i dont think the people of the UK have a distaste for guns just a total indiferance its not like we need a gun in this country so why bother ?if they are interested they join a gun club and scratch that itch untill theyre heart is content .outside of the agricultural industry where guns are used for pest control nobody needs a gun outside of this shooting is seen as a sport and like any sport unless your interested in it why buy the equipment ." If people used footballs to regularly kill kids and eachother. I'd happily give up my Sunday league games. | |||
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"Because it's not a great idea to give every fuckwit under the sun a weapon that can kill? But that not true at all is it Not every 'fuckwit under the sun' can own a firearm there is multiple reasons why you will fail a background check Federal law bans those who have been convicted of certain crimes from ever possessing firearms. Included in those crimes are all felonies and misdemeanor domestic violence offenses for example" Right..so can you explain all those high school massacres? | |||
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"Because it's not a great idea to give every fuckwit under the sun a weapon that can kill?" But the majority are not fuckwits. | |||
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"Because it's not a great idea to give every fuckwit under the sun a weapon that can kill? But the majority are not fuckwits." The majority of whom? | |||
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"Because it's not a great idea to give every fuckwit under the sun a weapon that can kill? If we are stopping fuckwits owning things that can kill you better hand in your car keys!!! Just kidding ??" How many cars are used to deliberately kill people? | |||
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"Because it's not a great idea to give every fuckwit under the sun a weapon that can kill? But that not true at all is it Not every 'fuckwit under the sun' can own a firearm there is multiple reasons why you will fail a background check Federal law bans those who have been convicted of certain crimes from ever possessing firearms. Included in those crimes are all felonies and misdemeanor domestic violence offenses for example Right..so can you explain all those high school massacres?" What the ones done with 99% illegally owned or stolen firearms... | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious.i dont think the people of the UK have a distaste for guns just a total indiferance its not like we need a gun in this country so why bother ?if they are interested they join a gun club and scratch that itch untill theyre heart is content .outside of the agricultural industry where guns are used for pest control nobody needs a gun outside of this shooting is seen as a sport and like any sport unless your interested in it why buy the equipment ." I can never understand why people call shooting and killing innocent animals just going about their lives and business as a sport!!! Happy Bambi trotting along a woodland trail the BLAMBO!! Some fucker shoot's it dead, maybe if the deer was armed to the teeth and ate babies it might be a sport I guess but nothing sporting about it. Dressing it up as hunting make's no difference either. So unless you live in an area where man killing animals are a clear and present danger or it's a zombie apocalypse owning a gun is just wrong. They are made for one purpose and one purpose only. Killing,not tickling or poking.. killing. Disdain most certainly and proudly so. | |||
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"Because it's not a great idea to give every fuckwit under the sun a weapon that can kill? But the majority are not fuckwits. The majority of whom?" The majority of adult residents in the UK would qualify for gun ownership if they chose to. | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious.i dont think the people of the UK have a distaste for guns just a total indiferance its not like we need a gun in this country so why bother ?if they are interested they join a gun club and scratch that itch untill theyre heart is content .outside of the agricultural industry where guns are used for pest control nobody needs a gun outside of this shooting is seen as a sport and like any sport unless your interested in it why buy the equipment . If people used footballs to regularly kill kids and eachother. I'd happily give up my Sunday league games. " You realize if I wanted to kill kids a truck hitting them will be just as usefull. It is the person behind the weapon of choice not the weapon itself. I own 32 weapons not 1 ran off and killed 1 person. So is it the weapon or the the phycotic nature of the person behind the weapon of choice. | |||
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"Because it's not a great idea to give every fuckwit under the sun a weapon that can kill? But that not true at all is it Not every 'fuckwit under the sun' can own a firearm there is multiple reasons why you will fail a background check Federal law bans those who have been convicted of certain crimes from ever possessing firearms. Included in those crimes are all felonies and misdemeanor domestic violence offenses for example Right..so can you explain all those high school massacres? What the ones done with 99% illegally owned or stolen firearms..." You said there were strict controls on who owns guns. So everyone who has Carried out a random gun attack in America was subject to these checks? | |||
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"Because it's not a great idea to give every fuckwit under the sun a weapon that can kill? If we are stopping fuckwits owning things that can kill you better hand in your car keys!!! Just kidding ?? How many cars are used to deliberately kill people?" Quite a few it would appear https://www.expressandstar.com/news/Features/2020/08/21/cars-being-used-as-weapons-against-police-officers/ | |||
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"Why is UK people have such distaste for them. I am just curious.i dont think the people of the UK have a distaste for guns just a total indiferance its not like we need a gun in this country so why bother ?if they are interested they join a gun club and scratch that itch untill theyre heart is content .outside of the agricultural industry where guns are used for pest control nobody needs a gun outside of this shooting is seen as a sport and like any sport unless your interested in it why buy the equipment . I can never understand why people call shooting and killing innocent animals just going about their lives and business as a sport!!! Happy Bambi trotting along a woodland trail the BLAMBO!! Some fucker shoot's it dead, maybe if the deer was armed to the teeth and ate babies it might be a sport I guess but nothing sporting about it. Dressing it up as hunting make's no difference either. So unless you live in an area where man killing animals are a clear and present danger or it's a zombie apocalypse owning a gun is just wrong. They are made for one purpose and one purpose only. Killing,not tickling or poking.. killing. Disdain most certainly and proudly so." I agree. I personally dont get how blowing animals is a sport and what enjoyment anyone would get out of it. | |||
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"Because it's not a great idea to give every fuckwit under the sun a weapon that can kill? But that not true at all is it Not every 'fuckwit under the sun' can own a firearm there is multiple reasons why you will fail a background check Federal law bans those who have been convicted of certain crimes from ever possessing firearms. Included in those crimes are all felonies and misdemeanor domestic violence offenses for example Right..so can you explain all those high school massacres? What the ones done with 99% illegally owned or stolen firearms... You said there were strict controls on who owns guns. So everyone who has Carried out a random gun attack in America was subject to these checks?" Checks and Balances do not stop people committing crimes, sometimes yes people fail to do there responbilities and either lock away there firearms or traders dont do the checks that are mandatory, these things are illegal We have gun crime here too you know | |||
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"Because it's not a great idea to give every fuckwit under the sun a weapon that can kill? But the majority are not fuckwits. The majority of whom? The majority of adult residents in the UK would qualify for gun ownership if they chose to." This is really not the case! | |||
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"Dunblane. This... how many schools have been subjected to massacres due to guns. 6 year olds in the states have to have ‘gun drills’ which fills me with horror! Guns should be banned and people that want to carry guns maybe should be shot and see how they like it. I carry all the time having 0 issues. It's a mental health issue not a gun issue. I agree with phycological examination before purchasing one. " Bear in mind the only predators in the uk are the humans, there is no need for them to protect against large predators. Hunting for sport is disgusting, hunt for food & use all of animal, sure. And as we found in glasgow with the knife culture is that most carried under the perception of protection when actually it just made it much worse. Put it this way we held the title of murder capital of europe for decades mostly with bladed weapons so up close & personal too, not any more. Alot of that down to education, mixing of what were 'postcode' wars with rebuilding schools between areas, tougher sentences & a conviction free amnesty of weapons into police. Other stuff too but cant mind. | |||
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