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Severe Iron deficient anemia
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If those methods have failed I struggle to see how anything else will work. Your GP would be my suggestion. "
The GP hasn’t been useful. Says to keep trying the tablets but they can’t be kept down  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The trouble with medical conditions is that none of us know the full medical history. We might suggest something totally inappropriate for the specific circumstances. Hence why I said gP. If your GP is rubbish then move to another. I don't get why people stay with those they don't trust. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Hello OP, I just seen your headline and thought I should reply. I have done a thesis on iron, specifically ,iron containing pharmaceuticals and there relationship to health etc... you may actually have enough iron in your body but no free iron available. The iron cycle in the body is highly complex for example some people with haemochromatosis ( excess iron in body) can also at the same time have little available in the body due to other specific reasons I.e. binding capacity etc.. more than willing to chat private if you like, tried mailing private but not able message you. All the best, here if I can help in any way |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The trouble with medical conditions is that none of us know the full medical history. We might suggest something totally inappropriate for the specific circumstances. Hence why I said gP. If your GP is rubbish then move to another. I don't get why people stay with those they don't trust. "
Many GPs aren’t taking new patients atm so it’s simply not possible. Anemia is also something, I think, that can be controlled through natural remedies so gleaning ideas. Thanks for your input. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I couldn't get on with iron tablets with severe anaemia after an internal bleed last year. Used the spray liquid iron which I got on with lots better. "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Hello OP, I just seen your headline and thought I should reply. I have done a thesis on iron, specifically ,iron containing pharmaceuticals and there relationship to health etc... you may actually have enough iron in your body but no free iron available. The iron cycle in the body is highly complex for example some people with haemochromatosis ( excess iron in body) can also at the same time have little available in the body due to other specific reasons I.e. binding capacity etc.. more than willing to chat private if you like, tried mailing private but not able message you. All the best, here if I can help in any way"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The trouble with medical conditions is that none of us know the full medical history. We might suggest something totally inappropriate for the specific circumstances. Hence why I said gP. If your GP is rubbish then move to another. I don't get why people stay with those they don't trust.
Many GPs aren’t taking new patients atm so it’s simply not possible. Anemia is also something, I think, that can be controlled through natural remedies so gleaning ideas. Thanks for your input."
OK. I'd rather take medical advice from those that know on a sex site too. Good luck op. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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There are lots of iron tablets and preparations that a Dr can prescribe and they prescribe the cheapest sort first ...you might need iron injections every so often which are more costly ...no food will be as effective as those |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"There are lots of iron tablets and preparations that a Dr can prescribe and they prescribe the cheapest sort first ...you might need iron injections every so often which are more costly ...no food will be as effective as those "
That is good to know, thank you  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"The trouble with medical conditions is that none of us know the full medical history. We might suggest something totally inappropriate for the specific circumstances. Hence why I said gP. If your GP is rubbish then move to another. I don't get why people stay with those they don't trust.
Many GPs aren’t taking new patients atm so it’s simply not possible. Anemia is also something, I think, that can be controlled through natural remedies so gleaning ideas. Thanks for your input.
OK. I'd rather take medical advice from those that know on a sex site too. Good luck op."
Ah but the knowledge you find on here is amazing, you must admit. Thanks anyway. |
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"The trouble with medical conditions is that none of us know the full medical history. We might suggest something totally inappropriate for the specific circumstances. Hence why I said gP. If your GP is rubbish then move to another. I don't get why people stay with those they don't trust.
Many GPs aren’t taking new patients atm so it’s simply not possible. Anemia is also something, I think, that can be controlled through natural remedies so gleaning ideas. Thanks for your input.
OK. I'd rather take medical advice from those that know on a sex site too. Good luck op.
Ah but the knowledge you find on here is amazing, you must admit. Thanks anyway."
I agree, there have been hundreds of supportive threads on here, often giving people a different view point or an alternative approach/access  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If those methods have failed I struggle to see how anything else will work. Your GP would be my suggestion.
The GP hasn’t been useful. Says to keep trying the tablets but they can’t be kept down "
What sort of infusion have you had?
The one where you have to spend a whole day attached to a drip? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Anyone got any tips on what to eat to really boost iron? Iron Infusions and regular iron tablets have been tried and failed
Thanks!"
I'm the opposite, I have haemochromatosis my body absorbs iron and continues to even when I have enough, I'm basically rusting on the inside, I have been told to watch my iron intake so I rarely eat, red meat, cereals fortified with iron, shell fish, beans, certain vegetables, black pudding, drink guiness that's supposed to be full of iron so I would give those a try |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If those methods have failed I struggle to see how anything else will work. Your GP would be my suggestion.
The GP hasn’t been useful. Says to keep trying the tablets but they can’t be kept down
What sort of infusion have you had?
The one where you have to spend a whole day attached to a drip?"
No it took about 2 hours |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Anyone got any tips on what to eat to really boost iron? Iron Infusions and regular iron tablets have been tried and failed
Thanks!
I'm the opposite, I have haemochromatosis my body absorbs iron and continues to even when I have enough, I'm basically rusting on the inside, I have been told to watch my iron intake so I rarely eat, red meat, cereals fortified with iron, shell fish, beans, certain vegetables, black pudding, drink guiness that's supposed to be full of iron so I would give those a try "
Bloody hell! I’ve never heard of this! Good luck to you  |
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I'm far from an expert but recent events have made me aware of how anemia can be a symptom of other underlying conditions. Just a thought. Speak to a real professional though. Dr Google is no good to anyone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If those methods have failed I struggle to see how anything else will work. Your GP would be my suggestion.
The GP hasn’t been useful. Says to keep trying the tablets but they can’t be kept down
What sort of infusion have you had?
The one where you have to spend a whole day attached to a drip?
No it took about 2 hours "
I tried alsorts over the years. My doc once told me my iron was so low that he was surprised i was still standing up.
I refused to take anymore iron tablets because of the side effects.
A doctor friend told me to push for intravenous iron. It was incredible! Made me feel like Id been on holiday for a month.
It used to take 8-9 hours in a hospital bed |
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Have you had your blood count checked? As I have had severe anemia and no amount of liver or any over the counter stuff helped I had to have a blood transfusion.A folic acid a day also helps your body make more red blood cells.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I had something very similar, but supplemented my diet with vitamin b12 and introduced kale and spinach into my diet daily. Amazing results for me, energy up and fatigue gone still do it now.
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By *arahtvTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Anyone got any tips on what to eat to really boost iron? Iron Infusions and regular iron tablets have been tried and failed
Thanks!"
most green leafy veg
lettuce, kale , cabbage, spinach etc
all high in iron and great for cleaning the bowel out #roughage |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Oooo you need to combine it with accelerators and avoid inhibitors... Seems like the thesis man above will be very helpful
Happy to share my vegan iron info +facts with you if you would like them |
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My iron levels were so low it ended up with me having an addiction to ice. Sounds crazy but for months i was eating a bag of ice a day. Iron tablets helped me and now i make sure i eat liver every week. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Oooo you need to combine it with accelerators and avoid inhibitors... Seems like the thesis man above will be very helpful
Happy to share my vegan iron info +facts with you if you would like them "
I would love them |
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Iron metabolism is a fairly complex process and,as commentators on the thread have already stated, there are things that will increase and, also, inhibit absorption.
'Treating' a severe iron deficiency anaemia tends to be a slow process if you are reliant on taking oral supplements; think 200 mg FeSO4 three times per day for several months.
The most important consideration should be investigating why you have the iron deficiency in the first place.
Common causes:
Dietary poor in iron.
Diet rich in iron chelators reducing iron absorption.
Intestinal conditions that affect iron absorption e.g. coeliac disease, tropical sprue, Crohn's disease and other malabsorptions (including intestinal parasites e.g. hook worm).
Defective iron metabolism (bone marrow and liver e.g. Wilson's disease).
Increased destruction and/or break down of red cells (spleen and injury).
Loss of red cells; menstrual, gastrointestinal and genitourinary bleeding (the latter may be overt i.e. highly visible or microscopic and therefore require appropriate testing e.g. urine collection for dipstick tsting and microscopy for red cells after centrifuging, faecal occult blood).
Concurrent conditions e.g. arthritis, renal disease etc.
Drugs e.g. non-steroidal anti-inflammatories (brufen, aspirin, naproxen etc.)
The above is not exhaustive and it's just me typing out what SS has been telling me as we've d*unk some coffee.
Whilst it might give you some pointers, feel free to drop us a PM if you want any additional info including the specific tests that your GP should be capable of undertaking to make a diagnosis.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Iron metabolism is a fairly complex process and,as commentators on the thread have already stated, there are things that will increase and, also, inhibit absorption.
'Treating' a severe iron deficiency anaemia tends to be a slow process if you are reliant on taking oral supplements; think 200 mg FeSO4 three times per day for several months.
The most important consideration should be investigating why you have the iron deficiency in the first place.
Common causes:
Dietary poor in iron.
Diet rich in iron chelators reducing iron absorption.
Intestinal conditions that affect iron absorption e.g. coeliac disease, tropical sprue, Crohn's disease and other malabsorptions (including intestinal parasites e.g. hook worm).
Defective iron metabolism (bone marrow and liver e.g. Wilson's disease).
Increased destruction and/or break down of red cells (spleen and injury).
Loss of red cells; menstrual, gastrointestinal and genitourinary bleeding (the latter may be overt i.e. highly visible or microscopic and therefore require appropriate testing e.g. urine collection for dipstick tsting and microscopy for red cells after centrifuging, faecal occult blood).
Concurrent conditions e.g. arthritis, renal disease etc.
Drugs e.g. non-steroidal anti-inflammatories (brufen, aspirin, naproxen etc.)
The above is not exhaustive and it's just me typing out what SS has been telling me as we've d*unk some coffee.
Whilst it might give you some pointers, feel free to drop us a PM if you want any additional info including the specific tests that your GP should be capable of undertaking to make a diagnosis.
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Thank you for taking the time to write you. Pming you |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm struggling with this too. I have low ferritin levels, usually in the single figures but my fbc is usually great so not classed as anaemic on NHS standards. In the US I'd have been a good candidate for an iron infusion but not here. The trick is to find the root cause and that's the hard bit. I'm still struggling to get to the bottom of that.
My hair falls out, a sign of low ferritin among other symptoms and apparently to stop the hair loss you need to reach a level of 70, optimal level for regrowth is 100.
In a group I joined they advised you take iron with ascorbic vitamin C in the morning and don't eat or drink for two hours. The amount of iron you should take is so many mg times your kg in weight. But if you haven't fixed the root cause this won't work fast if at all. Heavy periods in women can be one root cause. There are many others. The type of iron you use in a supplement can make a difference too. Worth researching. Have you had vitamin D, B12 levels done? And folate. You can always look up the MTHR gene mutation as well as that might give you some helpful knowledge if b bits and folate are low. Feel free to PM if I'm confusing you.
Also I recommend spatone too. |
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PM received and replied to.
This bit is for general consumption in relation to oral iron supplements:
I was about to add that SS says that iron tablets tend not to be tolerated if they are taken on an empty stomach and are best taken in the middle of a meal i.e. mouthful of food swallow, mouthful of food plus tablet swallow, mouthful of food and swallow. Avoid concurrent chelators.
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"Anyone got any tips on what to eat to really boost iron? Iron Infusions and regular iron tablets have been tried and failed
Thanks!"
Have you been offered a thalassemia test? If you have the trait, a low level may be normal for you and supplimetation could be detrimental.
Have you been told the level? Are you symptomatic? |
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By *nlyfun3Woman
over a year ago
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Some foods help the absobtion of iron some hinder it. Below is a snap shot to give you some ideas of these.
You can improve your body's absorption by eating foods containing vitamin C, vitamin A, meat, fish and poultry during your meals. On the other hand, foods containing phytates (cereals and grains), calcium (milk and dairy) and polyphenols (tea and coffee) can hinder iron absorption |
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"Anyone got any tips on what to eat to really boost iron? Iron Infusions and regular iron tablets have been tried and failed
Thanks!"
Not sure if your vegan/vegetarian but liver is full of Iron as is Spinach..more Iron rich foods on line..  |
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Your GP needs to take your anemia seriously and investigate what’s causing it. Is it just a matter of increasing iron in diet, or is it being absorbed, do you have heavy periods or maybe are losing blood in your stool and not noticing it? There are many possibilities, so just adding supplements may not resolve the issue. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Stay away from foods that inhibit absorption of iron.
Iron is best absorbed on an empty stomach. Yet, iron supplements can cause stomach cramps, nausea, and diarrhea in some people. You may need to take iron with a small amount of food to avoid this problem.
Milk, calcium and antacids should NOT be taken at the same time as iron supplements. You should wait at least 2 hours after having these foods before taking your iron supplements.
Foods that you should NOT eat at the same time as you take your iron include:
High fiber foods, such as whole grains, raw vegetables, and bran
Foods or drinks with caffeine |
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