So I've been wondering this for half my life.
If an event happened in say 200BC (Before Christ), how did they know that?, as time was only established after the birth of christ (AD).
So how did they use time and calendars leading up to the year zero?, they could not look into the future knowing jesus was going to be born!  |
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I can't be arsed being teacher of the day but time began with the Big Bang and is actually the expansion of the universe as the planets move further away from each other ......
Time is not manufactured nor is the method with which we measure it. |
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
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"So how did they use time and calendars leading up to the year zero?"
They had their own calendars presumably based upon significant dates in their own societies before the Romans standardised things.
What’s going to really bake your noodle is they later reworked the calendar a few times and some years disappeared  |
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I think the bible says God made the world around 8000 years ago.
Something like that don't quote me. Jesus was a time that was essential so its done from that.
But in all honesty ots a story that's been copied many times before hand. Its all based on the rebirth of the sun and astrology.
Like said before the Egyptians had this story much before anyone. When sunlight and night time would be a complete different world to them.
To many home comforts to notice the difference now days.
Have a look at zeitgeist religion on YouTube. Tells you all the stuff you need to know. Very interesting |
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"Time is not manufactured nor is the method with which we measure it.
Our measurement of time is entirely a social construct.
No. It really isn't. "
Agreed its mathematics
And how we measure it.
Its like saying we made up a language we did but we need to communicate. |
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
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"Time is not manufactured nor is the method with which we measure it.
Our measurement of time is entirely a social construct.
No. It really isn't. "
It is, though.
Our base year was determined by the RC church.
There’s no reason why we shouldn’t have a metric clock.
We even have to bodge the year because we chose to base it upon some astrological function which isn’t cleanly divisible.
Daylight savings vary by country and sometimes by locality within that. There are offsets all over the place.
The definition of a second is entirely arbitrary and has been revised a number of times.
If you accelerate a clock up into orbit and back it no longer syncs with a clock which remained in the ground.
It’s just a social convention. We could choose to do it differently if we wanted to. |
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I rather like the BC/AD method. It's what I was taught in school.
Not a fan of BCE, as some scholars are pushing. It's like metric measurements, too. Tell me in inches, and I'm with you. Tell me in cm, and I have to convert it into inches in my head. |
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The BCE/CE convention came about after Jesus, obviously.
There are extensive records of officials in classical Athens starting in... At least the early fifth century BCE, if not before. Where gaps exist they're of a size where we know how many years are missing. I'm sure other exact methods existed outside the ancient Mediterranean.
Apart from that, you look for different types of evidence. Fashion in pottery, spelling reforms (yes really), known introduction of a particular product, markings on coins. That sort of thing. Although that tends to give estimates not dates. |
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By *rder66Man
over a year ago
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Sumerian civilization is somewhere between 3000 and 3500 BC, this is the, known, oldest civilzation. Dionysius Exiguus created the AD and BC sytem so the Romans could convert the pagans and rule by religous conquest. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Time is not manufactured nor is the method with which we measure it.
Our measurement of time is entirely a social construct.
No. It really isn't.
It is, though.
Our base year was determined by the RC church.
There’s no reason why we shouldn’t have a metric clock.
We even have to bodge the year because we chose to base it upon some astrological function which isn’t cleanly divisible.
Daylight savings vary by country and sometimes by locality within that. There are offsets all over the place.
The definition of a second is entirely arbitrary and has been revised a number of times.
If you accelerate a clock up into orbit and back it no longer syncs with a clock which remained in the ground.
It’s just a social convention. We could choose to do it differently if we wanted to. "
You’re confusing how we quantify and measure time to the actual passing of time, which is self evident. The theory of relativity shows that time passes for everyone, but not at the same rate. But time only travels in one direction. But there is a theory that time is an illusion, that it doesn’t exist at a fundamental level, but that it exists as an emergent one, the best way to imagine this is think of a film, it looks like it’s moving, but it’s an illusion, it’s just a series of frames stuck together, those individual frames don’t change, they remain the same, but put them together and it appears they do. But this is just a theory.
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By *rder66Man
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"Time is not manufactured nor is the method with which we measure it.
Our measurement of time is entirely a social construct.
No. It really isn't.
It is, though.
Our base year was determined by the RC church.
There’s no reason why we shouldn’t have a metric clock.
We even have to bodge the year because we chose to base it upon some astrological function which isn’t cleanly divisible.
Daylight savings vary by country and sometimes by locality within that. There are offsets all over the place.
The definition of a second is entirely arbitrary and has been revised a number of times.
If you accelerate a clock up into orbit and back it no longer syncs with a clock which remained in the ground.
It’s just a social convention. We could choose to do it differently if we wanted to.
You’re confusing how we quantify and measure time to the actual passing of time, which is self evident. The theory of relativity shows that time passes for everyone, but not at the same rate. But time only travels in one direction. But there is a theory that time is an illusion, that it doesn’t exist at a fundamental level, but that it exists as an emergent one, the best way to imagine this is think of a film, it looks like it’s moving, but it’s an illusion, it’s just a series of frames stuck together, those individual frames don’t change, they remain the same, but put them together and it appears they do. But this is just a theory.
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Block universe, time is from the perspective of the person. |
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