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"They don't want publicity, they want privacy...oh hang on" They don't want publicity from the shit-rag tabloids trying to dig into their family lives for clicks. There's a big difference between an announcement and having something out there when you don't want it to be. | |||
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"Nice that they're over there. We've already just had another royal baby that's going to be bought up on tax payers money. " ![]() | |||
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"Kind of a little harsh.... Isn't each new life to be celebrated?" Of course but I think this one will be an excuse for media to go into overdrive........... | |||
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"Have to say as someone from Ireland with no dog in this fight I'm amazed at some of the attitudes He was the spare son and went off to fight for his countrylike others did He seems the kind of bloke that I'd have a pint with She looks lovely and he gave up so much for her so I hope it works out them But even the comments on here..who's the dad....i don't understand that at all Is he hated in The UK or is it all down to the Woman that took him away " Multiple things. For some the reasons you stated. For others they are extremely anti royalty. For some anti celebrity, they just don't see the need in celeb birth announcements. Why should person X care about person Y's baby news. Etc | |||
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"perhaps we should ask who the father is ? " Perhaps we should ask who your father is | |||
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"Have to say as someone from Ireland with no dog in this fight I'm amazed at some of the attitudes He was the spare son and went off to fight for his countrylike others did He seems the kind of bloke that I'd have a pint with She looks lovely and he gave up so much for her so I hope it works out them But even the comments on here..who's the dad....i don't understand that at all Is he hated in The UK or is it all down to the Woman that took him away Multiple things. For some the reasons you stated. For others they are extremely anti royalty. For some anti celebrity, they just don't see the need in celeb birth announcements. Why should person X care about person Y's baby news. Etc" i think its a shame for harry to be honest, lots of people choose - “career” of celebrity and then they realise its not all its cracked up to be because of the never ending media attention, the royals dont even have that much choice or control and are born into the media frenzy ... you don’t get to just walk away from that even when you actually did do the unheard of and walk away from the royal family and they cant win... people are either commenting yawn we don’t want to hear or they are hating on him for trying to walk away or they are hating on them because of who he married, or they are hating on him because he is still in the news (and yes they signed deals but its not like they have a choice to br in the media so they might aswel choose how to be in the media) and then there are some happy to hear about it but those people still feel entitled to inflrmation about them so still the media wanting a bit of them and all of this for a boy who has most likely grown up despising a media that he feels is responsible for his mother’s death | |||
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"Congratulations to Harry and Megan but with Harry now been a minor royal ( he is 6th in line to the throne ) is this really note worthy news." Yes very worthy news. It’s great news and how would we know if it was not broadcast to the world? | |||
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"I think it’s not nice bringing hate to the forum with some of these nasty comments. Forums are meant to be fun, not full of hatred. Be kind folks. " Incorrect. Forums are for discussion on subjects and topics put forward. The comments have free reign to be as positive or as negative as a poster chooses. Unless rules and mods deem otherwise. Hate filled or not, these people can have their say and air their opinion upon the subject, as that is how they feel, regardless of how we feel. Just as you can cal them out for hate. However forums are not exclusively "fun" | |||
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"All over the news and congratulations to them and best of luck But I've just read the comments on the story in The Daily Mail Whats that about " I really couldn’t care less | |||
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"I think it’s not nice bringing hate to the forum with some of these nasty comments. Forums are meant to be fun, not full of hatred. Be kind folks. Incorrect. Forums are for discussion on subjects and topics put forward. The comments have free reign to be as positive or as negative as a poster chooses. Unless rules and mods deem otherwise. Hate filled or not, these people can have their say and air their opinion upon the subject, as that is how they feel, regardless of how we feel. Just as you can cal them out for hate. However forums are not exclusively "fun" " Good evening, If you check the forum rules on Fab the following quote is included:- ‘Don’t forget the forums are meant to be fun’. I never said people can’t be negative. I said no need for hatred. Someone asking who is the father is in my book is hate. It’s stating Meghan has been unfaithful. This is why this couple have taken off to the USA for this kind of hatred. It’s not nice. Check the forum rules and also check my comment before going off on one. Thank you for your time. | |||
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"I think it’s not nice bringing hate to the forum with some of these nasty comments. Forums are meant to be fun, not full of hatred. Be kind folks. Incorrect. Forums are for discussion on subjects and topics put forward. The comments have free reign to be as positive or as negative as a poster chooses. Unless rules and mods deem otherwise. Hate filled or not, these people can have their say and air their opinion upon the subject, as that is how they feel, regardless of how we feel. Just as you can cal them out for hate. However forums are not exclusively "fun" Good evening, If you check the forum rules on Fab the following quote is included:- ‘Don’t forget the forums are meant to be fun’. I never said people can’t be negative. I said no need for hatred. Someone asking who is the father is in my book is hate. It’s stating Meghan has been unfaithful. This is why this couple have taken off to the USA for this kind of hatred. It’s not nice. Check the forum rules and also check my comment before going off on one. Thank you for your time. " Well said!!! | |||
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"Have to say as someone from Ireland with no dog in this fight I'm amazed at some of the attitudes He was the spare son and went off to fight for his countrylike others did He seems the kind of bloke that I'd have a pint with She looks lovely and he gave up so much for her so I hope it works out them But even the comments on here..who's the dad....i don't understand that at all Is he hated in The UK or is it all down to the Woman that took him away " We totally agree with you. The comment about who is the dad is almost beyond contempt. Harry has done more for the Royal family than any of the others. He has been in the front line. He is passionate about helping the disabled. What the hell have Harry & Megan done to be hated so badly? We personally love the guy. | |||
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"perhaps we should ask who the father is ? Perhaps we should ask who your father is" Correct. | |||
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"Whereas I don't like their constant manipulation of the press and don't really care for her demeanour if that lads got something to be happy about then its all good. God knows he's been through enough keep having his mothers death publicly regurgitated every few years let alone dealing with it privately. " We only know them via the media. Unless you are a friend of theirs of course. Not sure how you can judge them really. I’ve always liked Meghan, I don’t care if this makes me not well liked. Harry was never going to marry an English Rose. I’m pleased for them. | |||
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"Whereas I don't like their constant manipulation of the press and don't really care for her demeanour if that lads got something to be happy about then its all good. God knows he's been through enough keep having his mothers death publicly regurgitated every few years let alone dealing with it privately. We only know them via the media. Unless you are a friend of theirs of course. Not sure how you can judge them really. I’ve always liked Meghan, I don’t care if this makes me not well liked. Harry was never going to marry an English Rose. I’m pleased for them. " and youve hit the nail on the head he didnt marry an english rose unlike his brother albiet shes a commoner .oh no he married a colonial of colour shock horror .its just too much all those prety little brood mares pushed through finishing school what a waste . | |||
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"They don't want publicity, they want privacy...oh hang on" Well said | |||
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"Have to say as someone from Ireland with no dog in this fight I'm amazed at some of the attitudes He was the spare son and went off to fight for his countrylike others did He seems the kind of bloke that I'd have a pint with She looks lovely and he gave up so much for her so I hope it works out them But even the comments on here..who's the dad....i don't understand that at all Is he hated in The UK or is it all down to the Woman that took him away Multiple things. For some the reasons you stated. For others they are extremely anti royalty. For some anti celebrity, they just don't see the need in celeb birth announcements. Why should person X care about person Y's baby news. Etc i think its a shame for harry to be honest, lots of people choose - “career” of celebrity and then they realise its not all its cracked up to be because of the never ending media attention, the royals dont even have that much choice or control and are born into the media frenzy ... you don’t get to just walk away from that even when you actually did do the unheard of and walk away from the royal family and they cant win... people are either commenting yawn we don’t want to hear or they are hating on him for trying to walk away or they are hating on them because of who he married, or they are hating on him because he is still in the news (and yes they signed deals but its not like they have a choice to br in the media so they might aswel choose how to be in the media) and then there are some happy to hear about it but those people still feel entitled to inflrmation about them so still the media wanting a bit of them and all of this for a boy who has most likely grown up despising a media that he feels is responsible for his mother’s death " ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Whereas I don't like their constant manipulation of the press and don't really care for her demeanour if that lads got something to be happy about then its all good. God knows he's been through enough keep having his mothers death publicly regurgitated every few years let alone dealing with it privately. We only know them via the media. Unless you are a friend of theirs of course. Not sure how you can judge them really. I’ve always liked Meghan, I don’t care if this makes me not well liked. Harry was never going to marry an English Rose. I’m pleased for them. and youve hit the nail on the head he didnt marry an english rose unlike his brother albiet shes a commoner .oh no he married a colonial of colour shock horror .its just too much all those prety little brood mares pushed through finishing school what a waste ." I don’t think Kate was a traditional English Rose. She had a career, she had a good education. She met William in a traditional way but I think she kind of planned and waited until he was ready to commit. She knew the life she would have in the royal family and she takes it very seriously. Meghan was Hollywood and shook things up. I admire that woman. Royal life probably seemed boring, that’s an outsider looking in. I’m not judging. | |||
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"Nice that they're over there. We've already just had another royal baby that's going to be bought up on tax payers money. " 6 posts in before someone shows their ignorance. I think that's a new record. E | |||
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"Another royal breed mare doing her job what's the news" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Another royal breed mare doing her job what's the news" ![]() | |||
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"They don't want publicity, they want privacy...oh hang on Well said" No. They want to control what stories the media publish instead of allowing them to just print private and personal things such as intimate letters between a father and his daughter. Big difference. | |||
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"Who cares" Lots of people! X | |||
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"Whereas I don't like their constant manipulation of the press and don't really care for her demeanour if that lads got something to be happy about then its all good. God knows he's been through enough keep having his mothers death publicly regurgitated every few years let alone dealing with it privately. We only know them via the media. Unless you are a friend of theirs of course. Not sure how you can judge them really. I’ve always liked Meghan, I don’t care if this makes me not well liked. Harry was never going to marry an English Rose. I’m pleased for them. and youve hit the nail on the head he didnt marry an english rose unlike his brother albiet shes a commoner .oh no he married a colonial of colour shock horror .its just too much all those prety little brood mares pushed through finishing school what a waste ." How fucking disrespectful. Second time I've read brood mare on here and it's disgusting. | |||
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"Whereas I don't like their constant manipulation of the press and don't really care for her demeanour if that lads got something to be happy about then its all good. God knows he's been through enough keep having his mothers death publicly regurgitated every few years let alone dealing with it privately. We only know them via the media. Unless you are a friend of theirs of course. Not sure how you can judge them really. I’ve always liked Meghan, I don’t care if this makes me not well liked. Harry was never going to marry an English Rose. I’m pleased for them. and youve hit the nail on the head he didnt marry an english rose unlike his brother albiet shes a commoner .oh no he married a colonial of colour shock horror .its just too much all those prety little brood mares pushed through finishing school what a waste . How fucking disrespectful. Second time I've read brood mare on here and it's disgusting. " Agreed. Disgusting attitudes. E | |||
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"I wonder what nationality the child will be. And which country will the child be born in. England. Scotland. Ireland. United States of America. Or be a passport holder in all of them and more. " What an odd thing to wonder. | |||
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"I wonder what nationality the child will be. And which country will the child be born in. England. Scotland. Ireland. United States of America. Or be a passport holder in all of them and more. What an odd thing to wonder. " Green Arrow. *Got form E | |||
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"Some really nasty comments on this thread! Showing some in their true colours! ![]() ![]() Agree totally. | |||
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"perhaps we should ask who the father is ? " Why ? | |||
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"Another royal breed mare doing her job what's the news" Disgusting comment. Women are not breed mares. Royal or otherwise. | |||
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"Another royal breed mare doing her job what's the news Disgusting comment. Women are not breed mares. Royal or otherwise. " Likewise, I find a lot of these disgusting comments very distasteful. Why so much hatred for a couple who haven't done anything that bad?? Is it because of the unthinkable??? | |||
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"Another royal breed mare doing her job what's the news Disgusting comment. Women are not breed mares. Royal or otherwise. Likewise, I find a lot of these disgusting comments very distasteful. Why so much hatred for a couple who haven't done anything that bad?? Is it because of the unthinkable???" Possibly but it will also be due to very careful propaganda put out by the monarchy itself. Once a senior royal breaks away they'll be outcast forever and public opinion subtly swayed against them. As an institution the monarchy is ruthless in its actions to protect itself. (No I do not think Princess Diana was murdered) | |||
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"Another royal breed mare doing her job what's the news Disgusting comment. Women are not breed mares. Royal or otherwise. " Unfortunately that is how the royals see them aswell... ![]() | |||
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"I don't really care, they are nothing to do with me... I don't understand the need for shitty comments... It doesn't concern you, ignore them, it's quite easy... I think some need to get a fucking grip" ![]() | |||
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"Another royal breed mare doing her job what's the news Disgusting comment. Women are not breed mares. Royal or otherwise. Likewise, I find a lot of these disgusting comments very distasteful. Why so much hatred for a couple who haven't done anything that bad?? Is it because of the unthinkable??? Possibly but it will also be due to very careful propaganda put out by the monarchy itself. Once a senior royal breaks away they'll be outcast forever and public opinion subtly swayed against them. As an institution the monarchy is ruthless in its actions to protect itself. (No I do not think Princess Diana was murdered)" The hatred seems to be even at our level as well. There are some comments filled with hate on this thread. What the Royals do to the couple is one thing, but this hatred by everyday people stinks of something really bad. Is this a true example of the world today? Probably... | |||
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"Another royal breed mare doing her job what's the news Disgusting comment. Women are not breed mares. Royal or otherwise. Likewise, I find a lot of these disgusting comments very distasteful. Why so much hatred for a couple who haven't done anything that bad?? Is it because of the unthinkable??? Possibly but it will also be due to very careful propaganda put out by the monarchy itself. Once a senior royal breaks away they'll be outcast forever and public opinion subtly swayed against them. As an institution the monarchy is ruthless in its actions to protect itself. (No I do not think Princess Diana was murdered) The hatred seems to be even at our level as well. There are some comments filled with hate on this thread. What the Royals do to the couple is one thing, but this hatred by everyday people stinks of something really bad. Is this a true example of the world today? Probably..." I think people feel safe to say really quite nasty things about a pregnant woman because she's American and privileged. | |||
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"Interesting constitutionally. 8th in line for the throne and, if born in the US which seems likely, could run for President." And this is great because it means the storyline of King Ralph could now potentially come true and I'm all for that. | |||
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"Another royal breed mare doing her job what's the news Disgusting comment. Women are not breed mares. Royal or otherwise. Unfortunately that is how the royals see them aswell... ![]() Hoping and expecting a continuation of lineage doesn't go anywhere close to being able to say that , 'Royals see females as breed mares.' The most lowly of commoners talk of carrying on the family name........ Does that mean that we view all women as 'breeding mares?' Do women self impregnate ? Are men not present at the time of conception ? The use of the phrase on this thread is not a comment on Royals but a good indication of what is thought, by some, about women in general. You won't find anything above about Harry just being there to breed. | |||
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"I don't really care, they are nothing to do with me... I don't understand the need for shitty comments... It doesn't concern you, ignore them, it's quite easy... I think some need to get a fucking grip" This.. Evidencing ones lack of basic humanity and decency over an unborn child to parents who will have no bearing on one's own life on a site where you might wish to become intimate with others isn't a good look.. | |||
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"Don't you just hate it when a user pm's you to voice their opinion, then blocks you before you can reply!! ![]() ![]() That is the problem with putting awful comments on a Forum. | |||
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"Don't you just hate it when a user pm's you to voice their opinion, then blocks you before you can reply!! ![]() ![]() Yes I find that! Weather people agree or not there is no need for it! And it should b kept on here! I've had it happen its cowardly imo! X | |||
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"Good luck to them, but I hope we don't have to pay for it ![]() Hope away Tina. Course we'll pay. You'll have to sell a bra i'm afraid. | |||
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"All over the news and congratulations to them and best of luck" And congratulations to Major Hewitt on another grandchild on the way! | |||
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"All over the news and congratulations to them and best of luck And congratulations to Major Hewitt on another grandchild on the way!" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"He was the spare son and went off to fight for his countrylike others did He seems the kind of bloke that I'd have a pint with She looks lovely and he gave up so much for her so I hope it works out them " As a foreign national, I'm no royalist. I find the attitude that someone by birth is somehow above you, quite repugnant. But that is not the same is actively disliking the people within the institution or family itself. Harry has done a lot that is to be admired. He willingly led by example and went to the front line (irrespective of your views on the war itself) and even more impressively, stood up for the woman he loved and gave up a life of entitlement to share his life with her. As a romantic, I have to tip my hat to him for that. Also, those who harp on about "supported by the tax payer" could do well to understand how the crown estate pays more to the exchequer annually than it takes, and a Royal family is good business sense for the UK economy. But the media banging on about it for the next few months? Do me a favour! | |||
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"I don't really care, they are nothing to do with me... I don't understand the need for shitty comments... It doesn't concern you, ignore them, it's quite easy... I think some need to get a fucking grip This.. Evidencing ones lack of basic humanity and decency over an unborn child to parents who will have no bearing on one's own life on a site where you might wish to become intimate with others isn't a good look.." ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I think it’s not nice bringing hate to the forum with some of these nasty comments. Forums are meant to be fun, not full of hatred. Be kind folks. Incorrect. Forums are for discussion on subjects and topics put forward. The comments have free reign to be as positive or as negative as a poster chooses. Unless rules and mods deem otherwise. Hate filled or not, these people can have their say and air their opinion upon the subject, as that is how they feel, regardless of how we feel. Just as you can cal them out for hate. However forums are not exclusively "fun" Good evening, If you check the forum rules on Fab the following quote is included:- ‘Don’t forget the forums are meant to be fun’. I never said people can’t be negative. I said no need for hatred. Someone asking who is the father is in my book is hate. It’s stating Meghan has been unfaithful. This is why this couple have taken off to the USA for this kind of hatred. It’s not nice. Check the forum rules and also check my comment before going off on one. Thank you for your time. " Firstly, you said forums (plural) are meant to be fun, not this very specific forum in particular. Which I stated forums (plural) are for discussion. Second, fun is extremely subjective. You can not dictate what is fun and what is not. For a lot of people the Virus sub forum is the least thing from fun. As is politics. Surely that must go against the forum rules in that case? So I repeat, forums are not exclusively fun, they never will be, unless you turn it in to an echo chamber... And even then some would not find that fun. The definition of forum "a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged." which is exactly what has been done, regardless of positive, negative, hate or nice. | |||
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"Don't you just hate it when a user pm's you to voice their opinion, then blocks you before you can reply!! ![]() ![]() Free speech does not come with the freedom to spit hatred, nor does it come without the right to reply, or the consequences of what was written. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Good lesson there. Private messaging bile is cowardly, abuse should be reported. E | |||
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"Don't you just hate it when a user pm's you to voice their opinion, then blocks you before you can reply!! ![]() ![]() Free speech is good! But did yr muma not tell u if u have nothing nice to say best say nothing at all? ![]() | |||
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"Don't you just hate it when a user pm's you to voice their opinion, then blocks you before you can reply!! ![]() ![]() ![]() True. Lesson learned!! ![]() | |||
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"Didn't Henry VIII chop the heads of his wives because he was desperate for an heir? " Best you check the history books again I think.. ![]() | |||
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"Didn't Henry VIII chop the heads of his wives because he was desperate for an heir? " He divorced his first wife Catherine of Aragon, with who he had a daughter Mary later Queen Mary to marry Ann Boleyn, who gave birth to a daughter who was to become Elizabeth 1. He had her executed on various trumped up charges which the general public believed (funny that) and days later married Jane Seymour who gave birth to his only son later to become Edward vi, he then had a brief marriage to Ann of Cleves followed by a marriage to Catherine Howard who ironically was beheaded for promiscuity and finally Catherine Parr who outlived him. | |||
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"He was the spare son and went off to fight for his countrylike others did He seems the kind of bloke that I'd have a pint with She looks lovely and he gave up so much for her so I hope it works out them As a foreign national, I'm no royalist. I find the attitude that someone by birth is somehow above you, quite repugnant. But that is not the same is actively disliking the people within the institution or family itself. Harry has done a lot that is to be admired. He willingly led by example and went to the front line (irrespective of your views on the war itself) and even more impressively, stood up for the woman he loved and gave up a life of entitlement to share his life with her. As a romantic, I have to tip my hat to him for that. Also, those who harp on about "supported by the tax payer" could do well to understand how the crown estate pays more to the exchequer annually than it takes, and a Royal family is good business sense for the UK economy. But the media banging on about it for the next few months? Do me a favour!" Spare us the money they bring in argument. They live a life of untold wealth and privilege whilst kids are going hungry. Its utterly obscene. | |||
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"He was the spare son and went off to fight for his countrylike others did He seems the kind of bloke that I'd have a pint with She looks lovely and he gave up so much for her so I hope it works out them As a foreign national, I'm no royalist. I find the attitude that someone by birth is somehow above you, quite repugnant. But that is not the same is actively disliking the people within the institution or family itself. Harry has done a lot that is to be admired. He willingly led by example and went to the front line (irrespective of your views on the war itself) and even more impressively, stood up for the woman he loved and gave up a life of entitlement to share his life with her. As a romantic, I have to tip my hat to him for that. Also, those who harp on about "supported by the tax payer" could do well to understand how the crown estate pays more to the exchequer annually than it takes, and a Royal family is good business sense for the UK economy. But the media banging on about it for the next few months? Do me a favour! Spare us the money they bring in argument. They live a life of untold wealth and privilege whilst kids are going hungry. Its utterly obscene." Show me just one country on this planet where there aren't kids going hungry. | |||
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"He was the spare son and went off to fight for his countrylike others did He seems the kind of bloke that I'd have a pint with She looks lovely and he gave up so much for her so I hope it works out them As a foreign national, I'm no royalist. I find the attitude that someone by birth is somehow above you, quite repugnant. But that is not the same is actively disliking the people within the institution or family itself. Harry has done a lot that is to be admired. He willingly led by example and went to the front line (irrespective of your views on the war itself) and even more impressively, stood up for the woman he loved and gave up a life of entitlement to share his life with her. As a romantic, I have to tip my hat to him for that. Also, those who harp on about "supported by the tax payer" could do well to understand how the crown estate pays more to the exchequer annually than it takes, and a Royal family is good business sense for the UK economy. But the media banging on about it for the next few months? Do me a favour! Spare us the money they bring in argument. They live a life of untold wealth and privilege whilst kids are going hungry. Its utterly obscene. Show me just one country on this planet where there aren't kids going hungry. " Probally loads What is the relevance to the UK monarchy? | |||
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"Don't you just hate it when a user pm's you to voice their opinion, then blocks you before you can reply!! ![]() ![]() How would you feel seeing horrible malicious comments made about yourself on a public forum Steve. Some people say that they wouldn't care, but is there any point to it? Especially when you are referring to decent people. | |||
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"Prince Harry fought on the frontline. He created the fantastic Invictus Games. Why is he then ridiculed so much? Or is it Meghan everyone hates so much? Why??" Is it because she's not White | |||
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"Prince Harry fought on the frontline. He created the fantastic Invictus Games. Why is he then ridiculed so much? Or is it Meghan everyone hates so much? Why?? Is it because she's not White " Glad someone else said this. Probably. Disgusting thought isn't it? | |||
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"Prince Harry fought on the frontline. He created the fantastic Invictus Games. Why is he then ridiculed so much? Or is it Meghan everyone hates so much? Why?? Is it because she's not White Glad someone else said this. Probably. Disgusting thought isn't it? " I think it's more than that. For some it will be her skin colour but a lot of are deeply traditional when it comes to royalty and she's different in so many ways. Divorced, a commoner, an actress, American, outspoken, opinionated, good looking, successful in her own right. That will never do, she needs to be modest, humble and trailing in her man's wake. | |||
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"Prince Harry fought on the frontline. He created the fantastic Invictus Games. Why is he then ridiculed so much? Or is it Meghan everyone hates so much? Why?? Is it because she's not White Glad someone else said this. Probably. Disgusting thought isn't it? I think it's more than that. For some it will be her skin colour but a lot of are deeply traditional when it comes to royalty and she's different in so many ways. Divorced, a commoner, an actress, American, outspoken, opinionated, good looking, successful in her own right. That will never do, she needs to be modest, humble and trailing in her man's wake. " What I don't understand about royalty is this. If divorce is so bad for the crown then, Henry Tudor wouldn't have had a different wive every so often. As for the Church of England too: they wouldn't exist without his I-want-a-son obsession. Wouldn't changing the law, have been less painful, all round? As for why the dislike of the couple, my reason is this, does the world need more tabloid celebrity. The Beckahms are bad enough. ![]() | |||
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"Prince Harry fought on the frontline. He created the fantastic Invictus Games. Why is he then ridiculed so much? Or is it Meghan everyone hates so much? Why?? Is it because she's not White Glad someone else said this. Probably. Disgusting thought isn't it? I think it's more than that. For some it will be her skin colour but a lot of are deeply traditional when it comes to royalty and she's different in so many ways. Divorced, a commoner, an actress, American, outspoken, opinionated, good looking, successful in her own right. That will never do, she needs to be modest, humble and trailing in her man's wake. What I don't understand about royalty is this. If divorce is so bad for the crown then, Henry Tudor wouldn't have had a different wive every so often. As for the Church of England too: they wouldn't exist without his I-want-a-son obsession. Wouldn't changing the law, have been less painful, all round? As for why the dislike of the couple, my reason is this, does the world need more tabloid celebrity. The Beckahms are bad enough. ![]() Henry Tudor was the exception rather than the rule and possibly underwent a personality change after a head injury. Royal divorce and the establishment of the Church of England goes a lot deeper than just changing the law. As for tabloid celebrity, its easily avoided by avoiding the tabloids. | |||
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"Prince Harry fought on the frontline. He created the fantastic Invictus Games. Why is he then ridiculed so much? Or is it Meghan everyone hates so much? Why?? Is it because she's not White Glad someone else said this. Probably. Disgusting thought isn't it? I think it's more than that. For some it will be her skin colour but a lot of are deeply traditional when it comes to royalty and she's different in so many ways. Divorced, a commoner, an actress, American, outspoken, opinionated, good looking, successful in her own right. That will never do, she needs to be modest, humble and trailing in her man's wake. What I don't understand about royalty is this. If divorce is so bad for the crown then, Henry Tudor wouldn't have had a different wive every so often. As for the Church of England too: they wouldn't exist without his I-want-a-son obsession. Wouldn't changing the law, have been less painful, all round? As for why the dislike of the couple, my reason is this, does the world need more tabloid celebrity. The Beckahms are bad enough. ![]() Avoiding tabloids is easy, but avoiding the news on the radio isn't, especially when it's on at work. | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. " Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() Well said. She is a successful and extremely wealthy person in her own right. Still don't understand the prejudice and hatred towards this gorgeous couple. | |||
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"On Opra Winfrey soon they say.. Good on them but not sure that's about wanting privacy.. " ET I read your posts and frankly think your nuts. That said the juxtaposition position of H&M wanting privacy and collecting the reported $500k fee for the exclusive interview is puzzling. That said the Duke was offering the missus to Disney for voice over gigs. ET when I say nuts I mean like the eccentric uncle who farts at family doos and blames it on the dog! | |||
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"On Opra Winfrey soon they say.. Good on them but not sure that's about wanting privacy.. ET I read your posts and frankly think your nuts. That said the juxtaposition position of H&M wanting privacy and collecting the reported $500k fee for the exclusive interview is puzzling. That said the Duke was offering the missus to Disney for voice over gigs. ET when I say nuts I mean like the eccentric uncle who farts at family doos and blames it on the dog!" Nowt wrong with being nuts my friend ... | |||
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"On Opra Winfrey soon they say.. Good on them but not sure that's about wanting privacy.. ET I read your posts and frankly think your nuts. That said the juxtaposition position of H&M wanting privacy and collecting the reported $500k fee for the exclusive interview is puzzling. That said the Duke was offering the missus to Disney for voice over gigs. ET when I say nuts I mean like the eccentric uncle who farts at family doos and blames it on the dog! Nowt wrong with being nuts my friend ..." ET I quite agree | |||
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"Not sure what their game is... " The acquisition of more wealth and money they could possibly spend in ten life times. | |||
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"Not sure what their game is... The acquisition of more wealth and money they could possibly spend in ten life times." Want privacy, don't want provacy. I am confused | |||
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"As a kid...all I wanted was to live in a semi detached house with a few bob for a beer out on a Friday night ..." ET that’s all I want now! | |||
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"As a kid...all I wanted was to live in a semi detached house with a few bob for a beer out on a Friday night ... ET that’s all I want now!" I got there eventually... | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() I think a lot of it is born out of envy and ignorance to be honest. Take the post I replied to, sheer ignorance. The posts who cry about how much the royal family cost the tax payer, ignorant that they actually pay more back into the treasury than they take out and many have their own income, so cost zero. Never done a days work in their lives. Not a clue how hard they work. It's not a 9 to 5, 5 days a week job. Prince Andrew (bit of a knob granted) faught in the Falklands, flying target for exocet missiles, Harry served in the gulf. Many of the senior Royals are still working their asses off long after retirement age. I don't get the hatred...... E | |||
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"I don’t understand any of the negativity around them. He seems a nice enough guy, has served his country, lost his mum in terrible circumstances in terms of media coverage / public grieving and was born into a world of fame, rather than sought it out. He fell in love with someone, and they’re having a baby after previous miscarriage and wanting to have a little more control of their lives away from such intense media a a royal family. The taxpayer argument, or racist agenda, or just those people who have stated they’re bored of hearing about them, are all just personal viewpoints. For me I’m not particularly impacted but it’s nice news rather than anything to hold negative energy about. I’d never dehumanise anyone in similar circumstances without the fame, so I wouldn’t do it for that pair as well. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I don’t understand any of the negativity around them. He seems a nice enough guy, has served his country, lost his mum in terrible circumstances in terms of media coverage / public grieving and was born into a world of fame, rather than sought it out. He fell in love with someone, and they’re having a baby after previous miscarriage and wanting to have a little more control of their lives away from such intense media a a royal family. The taxpayer argument, or racist agenda, or just those people who have stated they’re bored of hearing about them, are all just personal viewpoints. For me I’m not particularly impacted but it’s nice news rather than anything to hold negative energy about. I’d never dehumanise anyone in similar circumstances without the fame, so I wouldn’t do it for that pair as well. " Well said. Be kind folks. There are some nasty comments on this thread. Remember the forums are meant to be fun ![]() ![]() | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() I certainly don’t hate anyone and hope my posts don’t portray that? There are lots of facts and figures on the cost and benefits of the monarchy to the economy. They will be reported in a way that supports the case either for or against. I just think that a secret hereditary and privileged organisation that produces the head of state does not fit in with the 21sr century way of life. As for H&M like any young couple with a young family starting out I wish them well but I just do not understand the frenzy the press and others will make of the confinement. Wanting to retire from public life then agreeing to appear on prime time TV seems a little odd? | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() They have lies printed about them all over the world. A magazine in Australia printed an article this week about them splitting up. It's a form of emotional abuse, they can't ever escape it. I would think they want a chance to speak about their side of it all. | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() And be paid an eye watering amount of money in doing so? | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() Why should they do it for free? | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() He is a thought. They go on prime TV tell their story again and donate the fee to save the children which is a very honourable charity? Just a thought as their combined nett worth is around $30m. | |||
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"The great thing about forums also is it highlights who to stay clearly away from... keep trolling folks as it makes great filters. ![]() I totally agree....... | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() This. ^ E | |||
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"The great thing about forums also is it highlights who to stay clearly away from... keep trolling folks as it makes great filters. ![]() Absolutely! | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() See that bit it my earlier post about envy...... ![]() | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() ![]() It’s my opinion and you have yours! They want privacy then fine get on and be private. As for The Khardashian comparator I really don’t know what to say other than making that comparison you really are talking nonsense! | |||
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"We don't choose the life we are born into. The resiliance and ambition of Meghan has got to be admired, if it was a male who had married a princess and rescued her from a disfunctional family, we'd all be much more positive. Everyone hates to see a strong woman, for some bizarre reason it kicks weak men in the nuts. I admire anyone who came from nothing and manages to make it, she's elevated herself, with hardwork and we could do with bit more of that American ambition in the UK at the moment. We've turned into a nation of downtrodden whingers ![]() ![]() | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() ![]() Because to compare a member of the British Monarchy with a reality TV “star” sums it all up the nonsense of the whole situation. If H&m wanted anonymity then pursue that life. As a side issue my next door but one neighbours have just told me they are expecting. On the same day they found out he lost his job as a hotel manager. No fanfare no announcement no big fat cheque from Oprah to tell their story............ It’s all tramadol for the masses . | |||
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"We don't choose the life we are born into. The resiliance and ambition of Meghan has got to be admired, if it was a male who had married a princess and rescued her from a disfunctional family, we'd all be much more positive. Everyone hates to see a strong woman, for some bizarre reason it kicks weak men in the nuts. I admire anyone who came from nothing and manages to make it, she's elevated herself, with hardwork and we could do with bit more of that American ambition in the UK at the moment. We've turned into a nation of downtrodden whingers ![]() ![]() But we choose the life we lead. | |||
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"It kind of passed me by, probably because I'm not interested in celeb culture or the tabloid press. And partly because I'm a republican with no interest in the royal family apart from the democratically unfair influence they have. " Agreed. I wish them well in the same way I wish Jane and Joe Bloggs from Example Town Cheshire well. | |||
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"Right that’s me off. I have a couple of meetings this afternoon to try and make head nor tail of a business employing over 200 people that has been virtually shut down in the last 12 months due to the covid pandemic. People’s livelihoods, through no fault of their own, are in jeopardy. A success thriving business is in freefall. Are we downtrodden like hell we are. I and other senior managers (which boasts the majority of women) will work tirelessly to save the business, our employees livelihoods and still hope to contribute to the local economy. So if I am somewhat sceptical about Kim Kardashian’s pod cast fees or H&M being paid outrageous sums of money to talk drivel then you may understand why? Kim, Harry and Meghan are totally and utterly irrelevant in the real world. I bid you a good and successful day. " Best of luck with your business | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() ![]() I think you missed my point. Entirely. E | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() ![]() It's ok, he's too busy being outraged and replying to read my comment and understand my point. No matter. E | |||
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" They two of them bore me, in my opinion she'll ditch him once she's set up a career in her own right. Once she's set up a career in her own right? What, like the successful acting career she had before she met Prince Harry you mean? Little spittle of bile wrapped up in a sheet of ignorance. Well done. ![]() ![]() Sorry been out working for most of the day just settling down with a beer and sandwich! It’s you who is outraged that someone has an opinion or point different to yours. By comparing the Royal family with the Khardashian clan sort of proves my point in so far as relevance to real life is concerned. If H&M want privacy then retreat into private life relinquish the funding that comes with the privilege and give TV shows a swerve. I am off to watch the Khardashians...... | |||
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"He was the spare son and went off to fight for his countrylike others did He seems the kind of bloke that I'd have a pint with She looks lovely and he gave up so much for her so I hope it works out them As a foreign national, I'm no royalist. I find the attitude that someone by birth is somehow above you, quite repugnant. But that is not the same is actively disliking the people within the institution or family itself. Harry has done a lot that is to be admired. He willingly led by example and went to the front line (irrespective of your views on the war itself) and even more impressively, stood up for the woman he loved and gave up a life of entitlement to share his life with her. As a romantic, I have to tip my hat to him for that. Also, those who harp on about "supported by the tax payer" could do well to understand how the crown estate pays more to the exchequer annually than it takes, and a Royal family is good business sense for the UK economy. But the media banging on about it for the next few months? Do me a favour! Spare us the money they bring in argument. They live a life of untold wealth and privilege whilst kids are going hungry. Its utterly obscene." ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"He was the spare son and went off to fight for his countrylike others did He seems the kind of bloke that I'd have a pint with She looks lovely and he gave up so much for her so I hope it works out them As a foreign national, I'm no royalist. I find the attitude that someone by birth is somehow above you, quite repugnant. But that is not the same is actively disliking the people within the institution or family itself. Harry has done a lot that is to be admired. He willingly led by example and went to the front line (irrespective of your views on the war itself) and even more impressively, stood up for the woman he loved and gave up a life of entitlement to share his life with her. As a romantic, I have to tip my hat to him for that. Also, those who harp on about "supported by the tax payer" could do well to understand how the crown estate pays more to the exchequer annually than it takes, and a Royal family is good business sense for the UK economy. But the media banging on about it for the next few months? Do me a favour! Spare us the money they bring in argument. They live a life of untold wealth and privilege whilst kids are going hungry. Its utterly obscene. ![]() ![]() ![]() That’s it in a nutshell. | |||
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"If they're on here reading this thread (perhaps as a couples profile) may I suggest Sam as a name? " I will laugh my socks off if they call the baby Sam ![]() | |||
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"I think the kids going hungry argument could apply to us all. Agreed! X" Do H&M really need $500k to go on a TV show? It’s a question of moral responsibility. There is sufficient tax revenue raised in this country to ensure food poverty is eradicated. The revenue is just directed to inappropriate sources. | |||
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"I think the kids going hungry argument could apply to us all. Agreed! X Do H&M really need $500k to go on a TV show? It’s a question of moral responsibility. There is sufficient tax revenue raised in this country to ensure food poverty is eradicated. The revenue is just directed to inappropriate sources." No, they don't but I don't need all the clothes in my cupboard, we don't need two cars or the quality of food we eat. There are very few true philanthropists. | |||
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"I think the kids going hungry argument could apply to us all. Agreed! X Do H&M really need $500k to go on a TV show? It’s a question of moral responsibility. There is sufficient tax revenue raised in this country to ensure food poverty is eradicated. The revenue is just directed to inappropriate sources. No, they don't but I don't need all the clothes in my cupboard, we don't need two cars or the quality of food we eat. There are very few true philanthropists." Sorry I disagree. I am assuming both you and your partner are working or have worked in the past? If so you have paid taxes and contributed to the social security requirement of those less fortunate. With income tax, NI, VAT and other ancillary levies you pay a significant portion of your income over to The exchequer. My point is that H&M are not poor by any stretch of the imagination and to seek payment for yet another tryst of their story is boring and flies in the face of the leave us alone mantra. If they want to recount their life issues then go find a start up production company and produce the work for themselves and donate the income from viewing to a worthy cause. Of course H&M will pay taxes...........in the US which thanks to Donald are somewhat geared to those earning super bucks. I am sorry but royalty and birthright privilege belong in the past and have no place in a modern society. As for a head of state I would have gladly voted for Sir Tommy Moore RIP who epitomises what this country is truly about. Yes I did use the word vote! | |||
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"I am a Royalist and he and his American wife are turncoats - but heyho is he a Royal or his he a Hewitt - I know where my bet would be placed - looks nothing like Princess Di or Prince Charles and he appears to have the outlook on life and the attitude of a certain major Hewitt " I really don’t know what to say to this outburst. | |||
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"I am a Royalist and he and his American wife are turncoats - but heyho is he a Royal or his he a Hewitt - I know where my bet would be placed - looks nothing like Princess Di or Prince Charles and he appears to have the outlook on life and the attitude of a certain major Hewitt " If you genuinely believe he's not the son of charles and Diana you have a problem | |||
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"I think the kids going hungry argument could apply to us all. Agreed! X Do H&M really need $500k to go on a TV show? It’s a question of moral responsibility. There is sufficient tax revenue raised in this country to ensure food poverty is eradicated. The revenue is just directed to inappropriate sources. No, they don't but I don't need all the clothes in my cupboard, we don't need two cars or the quality of food we eat. There are very few true philanthropists. Sorry I disagree. I am assuming both you and your partner are working or have worked in the past? If so you have paid taxes and contributed to the social security requirement of those less fortunate. With income tax, NI, VAT and other ancillary levies you pay a significant portion of your income over to The exchequer. My point is that H&M are not poor by any stretch of the imagination and to seek payment for yet another tryst of their story is boring and flies in the face of the leave us alone mantra. If they want to recount their life issues then go find a start up production company and produce the work for themselves and donate the income from viewing to a worthy cause. Of course H&M will pay taxes...........in the US which thanks to Donald are somewhat geared to those earning super bucks. I am sorry but royalty and birthright privilege belong in the past and have no place in a modern society. As for a head of state I would have gladly voted for Sir Tommy Moore RIP who epitomises what this country is truly about. Yes I did use the word vote!" You don't need to apologise for holding an opinion. I'm not a supporter of the monarchy but I don't think it's entirely the states responsibility to look after the less fortunate either. I live in luxury that's inconceivable to a lot of people in this country and the wider world. Do you think Utopia is achievable? | |||
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"I am a Royalist and he and his American wife are turncoats - but heyho is he a Royal or his he a Hewitt - I know where my bet would be placed - looks nothing like Princess Di or Prince Charles and he appears to have the outlook on life and the attitude of a certain major Hewitt " He actually looks quite a lot like Prince Charles when certain expressions cross his face. He doesn't look very much like Princess Diana I agree but I'm not sure what that proves. | |||
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"I am a Royalist and he and his American wife are turncoats - but heyho is he a Royal or his he a Hewitt - I know where my bet would be placed - looks nothing like Princess Di or Prince Charles and he appears to have the outlook on life and the attitude of a certain major Hewitt " I am not a royalist and I find the questioning of Harry's paternity pretty gross. And his American wife was approved by the Queen. | |||
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"I am a Royalist and he and his American wife are turncoats - but heyho is he a Royal or his he a Hewitt - I know where my bet would be placed - looks nothing like Princess Di or Prince Charles and he appears to have the outlook on life and the attitude of a certain major Hewitt He actually looks quite a lot like Prince Charles when certain expressions cross his face. He doesn't look very much like Princess Diana I agree but I'm not sure what that proves. " I think he looks a lot like Prince Philip when he was younger. William looks more like Princess Diana. It's almost as though people have 2 parents and they can't look identical to them both. ![]() | |||
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"I am a Royalist and he and his American wife are turncoats - but heyho is he a Royal or his he a Hewitt - I know where my bet would be placed - looks nothing like Princess Di or Prince Charles and he appears to have the outlook on life and the attitude of a certain major Hewitt He actually looks quite a lot like Prince Charles when certain expressions cross his face. He doesn't look very much like Princess Diana I agree but I'm not sure what that proves. I think he looks a lot like Prince Philip when he was younger. William looks more like Princess Diana. It's almost as though people have 2 parents and they can't look identical to them both. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"He was the spare son and went off to fight for his countrylike others did He seems the kind of bloke that I'd have a pint with She looks lovely and he gave up so much for her so I hope it works out them As a foreign national, I'm no royalist. I find the attitude that someone by birth is somehow above you, quite repugnant. But that is not the same is actively disliking the people within the institution or family itself. Harry has done a lot that is to be admired. He willingly led by example and went to the front line (irrespective of your views on the war itself) and even more impressively, stood up for the woman he loved and gave up a life of entitlement to share his life with her. As a romantic, I have to tip my hat to him for that. Also, those who harp on about "supported by the tax payer" could do well to understand how the crown estate pays more to the exchequer annually than it takes, and a Royal family is good business sense for the UK economy. But the media banging on about it for the next few months? Do me a favour! Spare us the money they bring in argument. They live a life of untold wealth and privilege whilst kids are going hungry. Its utterly obscene. Show me just one country on this planet where there aren't kids going hungry. Probally loads What is the relevance to the UK monarchy?" None whatsoever. That's my point. | |||
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"He was the spare son and went off to fight for his countrylike others did He seems the kind of bloke that I'd have a pint with She looks lovely and he gave up so much for her so I hope it works out them As a foreign national, I'm no royalist. I find the attitude that someone by birth is somehow above you, quite repugnant. But that is not the same is actively disliking the people within the institution or family itself. Harry has done a lot that is to be admired. He willingly led by example and went to the front line (irrespective of your views on the war itself) and even more impressively, stood up for the woman he loved and gave up a life of entitlement to share his life with her. As a romantic, I have to tip my hat to him for that. Also, those who harp on about "supported by the tax payer" could do well to understand how the crown estate pays more to the exchequer annually than it takes, and a Royal family is good business sense for the UK economy. But the media banging on about it for the next few months? Do me a favour! Spare us the money they bring in argument. They live a life of untold wealth and privilege whilst kids are going hungry. Its utterly obscene. Show me just one country on this planet where there aren't kids going hungry. Probally loads What is the relevance to the UK monarchy? None whatsoever. That's my point. " Your point was irrelevant? Glad we got that cleared up. | |||
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"I think the kids going hungry argument could apply to us all. Agreed! X Do H&M really need $500k to go on a TV show? It’s a question of moral responsibility. There is sufficient tax revenue raised in this country to ensure food poverty is eradicated. The revenue is just directed to inappropriate sources. No, they don't but I don't need all the clothes in my cupboard, we don't need two cars or the quality of food we eat. There are very few true philanthropists. Sorry I disagree. I am assuming both you and your partner are working or have worked in the past? If so you have paid taxes and contributed to the social security requirement of those less fortunate. With income tax, NI, VAT and other ancillary levies you pay a significant portion of your income over to The exchequer. My point is that H&M are not poor by any stretch of the imagination and to seek payment for yet another tryst of their story is boring and flies in the face of the leave us alone mantra. If they want to recount their life issues then go find a start up production company and produce the work for themselves and donate the income from viewing to a worthy cause. Of course H&M will pay taxes...........in the US which thanks to Donald are somewhat geared to those earning super bucks. I am sorry but royalty and birthright privilege belong in the past and have no place in a modern society. As for a head of state I would have gladly voted for Sir Tommy Moore RIP who epitomises what this country is truly about. Yes I did use the word vote! You don't need to apologise for holding an opinion. I'm not a supporter of the monarchy but I don't think it's entirely the states responsibility to look after the less fortunate either. I live in luxury that's inconceivable to a lot of people in this country and the wider world. Do you think Utopia is achievable? " I am a realist and this week thus far has been one of listening to employees and fears for the future mainly financial security through no fault of their own are now staring them in the face. I rather doubt if humankind is programmed to live in utopia but I can’t help feeling some of the gross inequality’s that exist in society can be corrected quite easily. You may say I am a dreamer but I am not the only one! | |||
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"I think the kids going hungry argument could apply to us all. Agreed! X Do H&M really need $500k to go on a TV show? It’s a question of moral responsibility. There is sufficient tax revenue raised in this country to ensure food poverty is eradicated. The revenue is just directed to inappropriate sources. No, they don't but I don't need all the clothes in my cupboard, we don't need two cars or the quality of food we eat. There are very few true philanthropists. Sorry I disagree. I am assuming both you and your partner are working or have worked in the past? If so you have paid taxes and contributed to the social security requirement of those less fortunate. With income tax, NI, VAT and other ancillary levies you pay a significant portion of your income over to The exchequer. My point is that H&M are not poor by any stretch of the imagination and to seek payment for yet another tryst of their story is boring and flies in the face of the leave us alone mantra. If they want to recount their life issues then go find a start up production company and produce the work for themselves and donate the income from viewing to a worthy cause. Of course H&M will pay taxes...........in the US which thanks to Donald are somewhat geared to those earning super bucks. I am sorry but royalty and birthright privilege belong in the past and have no place in a modern society. As for a head of state I would have gladly voted for Sir Tommy Moore RIP who epitomises what this country is truly about. Yes I did use the word vote! You don't need to apologise for holding an opinion. I'm not a supporter of the monarchy but I don't think it's entirely the states responsibility to look after the less fortunate either. I live in luxury that's inconceivable to a lot of people in this country and the wider world. Do you think Utopia is achievable? I am a realist and this week thus far has been one of listening to employees and fears for the future mainly financial security through no fault of their own are now staring them in the face. I rather doubt if humankind is programmed to live in utopia but I can’t help feeling some of the gross inequality’s that exist in society can be corrected quite easily. You may say I am a dreamer but I am not the only one!" I agree with you but for inequality to be eradicated we all need to be on board, not just the super wealthy. There are poor and hungry people in republics too | |||
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"I am a Royalist and he and his American wife are turncoats - but heyho is he a Royal or his he a Hewitt - I know where my bet would be placed - looks nothing like Princess Di or Prince Charles and he appears to have the outlook on life and the attitude of a certain major Hewitt He actually looks quite a lot like Prince Charles when certain expressions cross his face. He doesn't look very much like Princess Diana I agree but I'm not sure what that proves. I think he looks a lot like Prince Philip when he was younger. William looks more like Princess Diana. It's almost as though people have 2 parents and they can't look identical to them both. ![]() ![]() Harry does have a very striking resemblance to James Hewitt, it has to be said. Not claiming it’s a fact, but paternity fraud exists. | |||
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"I am a Royalist and he and his American wife are turncoats - but heyho is he a Royal or his he a Hewitt - I know where my bet would be placed - looks nothing like Princess Di or Prince Charles and he appears to have the outlook on life and the attitude of a certain major Hewitt I am not a royalist and I find the questioning of Harry's paternity pretty gross. And his American wife was approved by the Queen." Would you think it correct for your mum or granny to approve your choice of life partner? Beggars belief | |||
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