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"Not in my mind. Confidence is attractive but arrogance is not." And not everyone can tell the difference | |||
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"Scotland has lovelier mountains too" Agreed, colours seem more vivid as well. I'm a Welsh girl living in England yet Scotland feels like home | |||
All teams big themselves up pre match and make excuses post for poor performances. Is it England's fault that their voice is louder? | |||
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"I'm not sure population size is directly related to rugby prowess.... Please explain how that works? " Not sure if serious but I’ll answer. Well you have 60m people to pick from as opposed to 5m for a start. So there’s far more English players than Scottish. Bit like going shopping with £60 or a £5. Way more schools (private), more professional teams, more money, more coaches... | |||
"Since 2012 England have won the calcutta Cup 7 times, Scotland twice and once it was a draw.... Does that not warrant some amount of confidence before the game? I'm sure Scotland have been all meek and fair in the run up to the game
All teams big themselves up pre match and make excuses post for poor performances. Is it England's fault that their voice is louder? "Nice place to pick to draw the line.. I’ll choose to start from 2016.. | |||
"I'm not sure population size is directly related to rugby prowess.... Please explain how that works? Not sure if serious but I’ll answer. Well you have 60m people to pick from as opposed to 5m for a start. So there’s far more English players than Scottish. Bit like going shopping with £60 or a £5. Way more schools (private), more professional teams, more money, more coaches... " OK. Now compare new Zealand as suggested above.... Does your theory still stand? Yoh won. just celebrate and gloat. Why you getting pissey about the pre match trash talk? | |||
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"Since 2012 England have won the calcutta Cup 7 times, Scotland twice and once it was a draw.... Does that not warrant some amount of confidence before the game? I'm sure Scotland have been all meek and fair in the run up to the game
All teams big themselves up pre match and make excuses post for poor performances. Is it England's fault that their voice is louder?
Nice place to pick to draw the line..
I’ll choose to start from 2016.."Convenient  stats can always be manipulated to make you feel better  glad it worked for you (although we still have won more matches since 2016 than you  ) | |||
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"I've always wondered this too. Sport is obviously always decided on quantity and wealth, so how come China are not world champions at everything? " They’re shit hot at table tennis. | |||
"I've always wondered this too. Sport is obviously always decided on quantity and wealth, so how come China are not world champions at everything? They’re shit hot at table tennis. " Wiff waff. | |||
"I've always wondered this too. Sport is obviously always decided on quantity and wealth, so how come China are not world champions at everything? They’re shit hot at table tennis. " Must be where all their resources go. | |||
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"You know the term sore loser? Why isn't there also the term sore winner? Mrs kf x " There is. I’ve stopped wearing tight pants which seems to of solved the problem. | |||
"You know the term sore loser? Why isn't there also the term sore winner? Mrs kf x There is. I’ve stopped wearing tight pants which seems to of solved the problem." The Wiener Takes It All | |||
"You know the term sore loser? Why isn't there also the term sore winner? Mrs kf x There is. I’ve stopped wearing tight pants which seems to of solved the problem." Phew! Thinking of you at this difficult time. | |||
"You know the term sore loser? Why isn't there also the term sore winner? Mrs kf x There is. I’ve stopped wearing tight pants which seems to of solved the problem. The Wiener Takes It All" Wiener wiener chicken diener? Hmm. | |||
"I say we decide this over which nation has the biggest cock and can shoot massive cum shots. " Oh you know I’d win that  | |||
"I say we decide this over which nation has the biggest cock and can shoot massive cum shots. Oh you know I’d win that "Now that’s irony for ya right there. | |||
"I say we decide this over which nation has the biggest cock and can shoot massive cum shots. Oh you know I’d win that "Blimey! nearly took me eye out  | |||
"I say we decide this over which nation has the biggest cock and can shoot massive cum shots. Oh you know I’d win that
Blimey! nearly took me eye out "A fan? | |||
"I say we decide this over which nation has the biggest cock and can shoot massive cum shots. Oh you know I’d win that
Now that’s irony for ya right there." | |||
"I say we decide this over which nation has the biggest cock and can shoot massive cum shots. Oh you know I’d win that
Now that’s irony for ya right there.
"I deal in facts Jim. | |||
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We used to think of the England rugby support as arrogant, but that was the days when Twickers was dominated by barbour jackets and custard coloured chords. “Proper” England fans are just fine, and these days I feel sorry they get lumped in with that stereotype.
I do enjoy seeing Eddie Jones taken down a peg or two, but his post-match interview was almoat all very classy. | |||
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"In fairness, the England team are a decent bunch on the whole. The media set-up in the UK is a struggle - sportwise, it might be better if there was an England only media, where they could bang on about their teams to their hearts content. Most London based media outlets do try to reflect the fact that they are the “national media”and are watched throughout the UK. England gets the lions share of the attention, but that’s kinda inevitable given audience share. It used to be particularly hard watching Wales v England on Sky though - talk about feeling like an alien in your own land! See also years of Football Focus - always “and the other Home Nations are also in action” squeezed in at the end .
We used to think of the England rugby support as arrogant, but that was the days when Twickers was dominated by barbour jackets and custard coloured chords. “Proper” England fans are just fine, and these days I feel sorry they get lumped in with that stereotype.
I do enjoy seeing Eddie Jones taken down a peg or two, but his post-match interview was almoat all very classy."I agree with Lost Sock above. Real fans enjoy the game and whilst they will be unhappy to be supporting the loosing team, will happily have a pint with opposing fans afterwards. In normal times. I can't speak for others, but in international matches, if England isn't playing, we support any home nations team that is. | |||
"In fairness, the England team are a decent bunch on the whole. The media set-up in the UK is a struggle - sportwise, it might be better if there was an England only media, where they could bang on about their teams to their hearts content. Most London based media outlets do try to reflect the fact that they are the “national media”and are watched throughout the UK. England gets the lions share of the attention, but that’s kinda inevitable given audience share. It used to be particularly hard watching Wales v England on Sky though - talk about feeling like an alien in your own land! See also years of Football Focus - always “and the other Home Nations are also in action” squeezed in at the end .
We used to think of the England rugby support as arrogant, but that was the days when Twickers was dominated by barbour jackets and custard coloured chords. “Proper” England fans are just fine, and these days I feel sorry they get lumped in with that stereotype.
I do enjoy seeing Eddie Jones taken down a peg or two, but his post-match interview was almoat all very classy.
I agree with Lost Sock above.
Real fans enjoy the game and whilst they will be unhappy to be supporting the loosing team, will happily have a pint with opposing fans afterwards. In normal times.
I can't speak for others, but in international matches, if England isn't playing, we support any home nations team that is."I can’t go that far, I just can’t. I can be neutral these days, so I’m getting there! I think irrational sporting “rivalries” are fine, so long as it doesn’t go too far (I accept that it’s one-sided with England though). England engage in plenty of them (not in rugby, in fairness). I started going to Wales v England games in the 80s. We dished it out too, but I’ll never forget the comments from “The Ruperts” at Twickenham. We weren’t playing England, we were playing Thatcher and an ideology, in our minds. I’ve never seen JW’s World Cup winning drop goal. I refuse to believe it happened .
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"In fairness, the England team are a decent bunch on the whole. The media set-up in the UK is a struggle - sportwise, it might be better if there was an England only media, where they could bang on about their teams to their hearts content. Most London based media outlets do try to reflect the fact that they are the “national media”and are watched throughout the UK. England gets the lions share of the attention, but that’s kinda inevitable given audience share. It used to be particularly hard watching Wales v England on Sky though - talk about feeling like an alien in your own land! See also years of Football Focus - always “and the other Home Nations are also in action” squeezed in at the end .
We used to think of the England rugby support as arrogant, but that was the days when Twickers was dominated by barbour jackets and custard coloured chords. “Proper” England fans are just fine, and these days I feel sorry they get lumped in with that stereotype.
I do enjoy seeing Eddie Jones taken down a peg or two, but his post-match interview was almoat all very classy.
I agree with Lost Sock above.
Real fans enjoy the game and whilst they will be unhappy to be supporting the loosing team, will happily have a pint with opposing fans afterwards. In normal times.
I can't speak for others, but in international matches, if England isn't playing, we support any home nations team that is.
I can’t go that far, I just can’t. I can be neutral these days, so I’m getting there!
I think irrational sporting “rivalries” are fine, so long as it doesn’t go too far (I accept that it’s one-sided with England though). England engage in plenty of them (not in rugby, in fairness).
I started going to Wales v England games in the 80s. We dished it out too, but I’ll never forget the comments from “The Ruperts” at Twickenham. We weren’t playing England, we were playing Thatcher and an ideology, in our minds.
I’ve never seen JW’s World Cup winning drop goal. I refuse to believe it happened .
"Trust me... it did | |||
"I'm not sure population size is directly related to rugby prowess.... Please explain how that works? " Didn't you know? China have been Rugby World Cup champions for just about ever. Oh, Wait! | |||
"I say we decide this over which nation has the biggest cock and can shoot massive cum shots. Oh you know I’d win that
Now that’s irony for ya right there.
I deal in hyperbole Jim. "Fixed that for you. | |||
"I say we decide this over which nation has the biggest cock and can shoot massive cum shots. Oh you know I’d win that
Now that’s irony for ya right there.
I deal in hyperbole Jim.
Fixed that for you. "Ah you’ve kept up your record of appearing on.. Wait for it... 100% of my threads. Genuinely impressed x | |||
"Population of England is 60m. Scotland has 5m. England should hammer Scotland based on the fact they have 12 times the number of players to choose from and unlimited money. The last 4 matches have ended with 2 wins for Scotland, a draw (in which Scotland scored 38 unanswered points) and an England win. The English media, staff and coaching team have been disgustingly arrogant and disrespectful in the run up to this match as they always are. I always enjoy reading it in the run up to the match and taking screenshots of the utter garbage as it usually comes back to bite them in the arse.. as do all fellow Scots and I’d imagine the national team quite enjoy reading it as well. Team talk complete without saying a word. I do feel that as nation we Scots are proud and love the against all odds feeling when nobody feels we can do it. Anyway... is arrogance ever good? That was my question.." I remember a good few years back when England came to Dublin when Landsdowne Road was under construction so the GAA opened up Croke Park to foreign sports, which was a massive deal for us history wise, that England would be the first play in Croker, Anyway bars are packed, banter was great, got talking to this English fan over with his son, they did a stadium tour 2 days previous and was blown away that a stadium that size was unheard of to the outside world, just as the game was about to start he asks me why we hate England so much, just As Johnson was snubbing our President at the lineup and a massive Boooo went up ,, I said its because of shit like that, Arrogance, he thought it was because historically they are better, I said naa Arrogance only, and infact we fear Wales more at the moment, which didn't sit well with him at all, and more so after we beat them that day. My Mate told him, being Humble goes a long way, but where English Rugby is concerned very few are humble. And considering Rugby only exists because ye boys couldn't handle GAA,(this you know from your tour) ye would think ye should pipe down a bit, at least over here. How Fast Fwd to modern day, England have a great side, but E Jones is one of the biggest Dicks on the Planet, and far from Humble. Which makes the Win by our Celt Brothers yesterday even more tasty . | |||
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"I say we decide this over which nation has the biggest cock and can shoot massive cum shots. Oh you know I’d win that
Now that’s irony for ya right there.
I deal in hyperbole Jim.
Fixed that for you.
Ah you’ve kept up your record of appearing on..
Wait for it... 100% of my threads.
Genuinely impressed x"More hyperbole, as predicted. | |||
"Population of England is 60m. Scotland has 5m. England should hammer Scotland based on the fact they have 12 times the number of players to choose from and unlimited money. The last 4 matches have ended with 2 wins for Scotland, a draw (in which Scotland scored 38 unanswered points) and an England win. The English media, staff and coaching team have been disgustingly arrogant and disrespectful in the run up to this match as they always are. I always enjoy reading it in the run up to the match and taking screenshots of the utter garbage as it usually comes back to bite them in the arse.. as do all fellow Scots and I’d imagine the national team quite enjoy reading it as well. Team talk complete without saying a word. I do feel that as nation we Scots are proud and love the against all odds feeling when nobody feels we can do it. Anyway... is arrogance ever good? That was my question.. I remember a good few years back when England came to Dublin when Landsdowne Road was under construction so the GAA opened up Croke Park to foreign sports, which was a massive deal for us history wise, that England would be the first play in Croker, Anyway bars are packed, banter was great, got talking to this English fan over with his son, they did a stadium tour 2 days previous and was blown away that a stadium that size was unheard of to the outside world, just as the game was about to start he asks me why we hate England so much, just As Johnson was snubbing our President at the lineup and a massive Boooo went up ,, I said its because of shit like that, Arrogance, he thought it was because historically they are better, I said naa Arrogance only, and infact we fear Wales more at the moment, which didn't sit well with him at all, and more so after we beat them that day. My Mate told him, being Humble goes a long way, but where English Rugby is concerned very few are humble. And considering Rugby only exists because ye boys couldn't handle GAA,(this you know from your tour) ye would think ye should pipe down a bit, at least over here. How Fast Fwd to modern day, England have a great side, but E Jones is one of the biggest Dicks on the Planet, and far from Humble. Which makes the Win by our Celt Brothers yesterday even more tasty . "See, I can understand why an Irish person wouldn’t like an English sporting team given the troubled history. I must admit that I used to feel Wales were playing to right historical wrongs even! In fairness though, its the week that former England captain John Pullen died. He, and the 1972 England side were always held in great regard in Dublin because they played there that year when the other sides didn’t because od concerns over terrorism. Pullen’s famous line was something like “we may be rubbish, but at least we turn up!”. When the IRFU had their centenary, they asked England to play as a result. That said, that Wilkinson drop-goal never happened - conspiracy theory. | |||
"Population of England is 60m. Scotland has 5m. England should hammer Scotland based on the fact they have 12 times the number of players to choose from and unlimited money. The last 4 matches have ended with 2 wins for Scotland, a draw (in which Scotland scored 38 unanswered points) and an England win. The English media, staff and coaching team have been disgustingly arrogant and disrespectful in the run up to this match as they always are. I always enjoy reading it in the run up to the match and taking screenshots of the utter garbage as it usually comes back to bite them in the arse.. as do all fellow Scots and I’d imagine the national team quite enjoy reading it as well. Team talk complete without saying a word. I do feel that as nation we Scots are proud and love the against all odds feeling when nobody feels we can do it. Anyway... is arrogance ever good? That was my question.. I remember a good few years back when England came to Dublin when Landsdowne Road was under construction so the GAA opened up Croke Park to foreign sports, which was a massive deal for us history wise, that England would be the first play in Croker, Anyway bars are packed, banter was great, got talking to this English fan over with his son, they did a stadium tour 2 days previous and was blown away that a stadium that size was unheard of to the outside world, just as the game was about to start he asks me why we hate England so much, just As Johnson was snubbing our President at the lineup and a massive Boooo went up ,, I said its because of shit like that, Arrogance, he thought it was because historically they are better, I said naa Arrogance only, and infact we fear Wales more at the moment, which didn't sit well with him at all, and more so after we beat them that day. My Mate told him, being Humble goes a long way, but where English Rugby is concerned very few are humble. And considering Rugby only exists because ye boys couldn't handle GAA,(this you know from your tour) ye would think ye should pipe down a bit, at least over here. How Fast Fwd to modern day, England have a great side, but E Jones is one of the biggest Dicks on the Planet, and far from Humble. Which makes the Win by our Celt Brothers yesterday even more tasty .
See, I can understand why an Irish person wouldn’t like an English sporting team given the troubled history. I must admit that I used to feel Wales were playing to right historical wrongs even!
In fairness though, its the week that former England captain John Pullen died. He, and the 1972 England side were always held in great regard in Dublin because they played there that year when the other sides didn’t because od concerns over terrorism.
Pullen’s famous line was something like “we may be rubbish, but at least we turn up!”.
When the IRFU had their centenary, they asked England to play as a result.
That said, that Wilkinson drop-goal never happened - conspiracy theory.
"HE is held or was  held in high regard here for that very reason also. | |||
"a scot finds the english arrogant, shock horror!! " Lol | |||
"Population of England is 60m. Scotland has 5m. England should hammer Scotland based on the fact they have 12 times the number of players to choose from and unlimited money. The last 4 matches have ended with 2 wins for Scotland, a draw (in which Scotland scored 38 unanswered points) and an England win. The English media, staff and coaching team have been disgustingly arrogant and disrespectful in the run up to this match as they always are. I always enjoy reading it in the run up to the match and taking screenshots of the utter garbage as it usually comes back to bite them in the arse.. as do all fellow Scots and I’d imagine the national team quite enjoy reading it as well. Team talk complete without saying a word. I do feel that as nation we Scots are proud and love the against all odds feeling when nobody feels we can do it. Anyway... is arrogance ever good? That was my question.. I remember a good few years back when England came to Dublin when Landsdowne Road was under construction so the GAA opened up Croke Park to foreign sports, which was a massive deal for us history wise, that England would be the first play in Croker, Anyway bars are packed, banter was great, got talking to this English fan over with his son, they did a stadium tour 2 days previous and was blown away that a stadium that size was unheard of to the outside world, just as the game was about to start he asks me why we hate England so much, just As Johnson was snubbing our President at the lineup and a massive Boooo went up ,, I said its because of shit like that, Arrogance, he thought it was because historically they are better, I said naa Arrogance only, and infact we fear Wales more at the moment, which didn't sit well with him at all, and more so after we beat them that day. My Mate told him, being Humble goes a long way, but where English Rugby is concerned very few are humble. And considering Rugby only exists because ye boys couldn't handle GAA,(this you know from your tour) ye would think ye should pipe down a bit, at least over here. How Fast Fwd to modern day, England have a great side, but E Jones is one of the biggest Dicks on the Planet, and far from Humble. Which makes the Win by our Celt Brothers yesterday even more tasty .
See, I can understand why an Irish person wouldn’t like an English sporting team given the troubled history. I must admit that I used to feel Wales were playing to right historical wrongs even!
In fairness though, its the week that former England captain John Pullen died. He, and the 1972 England side were always held in great regard in Dublin because they played there that year when the other sides didn’t because od concerns over terrorism.
Pullen’s famous line was something like “we may be rubbish, but at least we turn up!”.
When the IRFU had their centenary, they asked England to play as a result.
That said, that Wilkinson drop-goal never happened - conspiracy theory.
HE is held or was held in high regard here for that very reason also. "Indeed. Sorry if I didn’t make it clear, but it was Ireland I was referring to. That’s said, he was well liked in Wales too - I think partly because he was the one non-Welsh player in Gareth Edwards’s try for the Barbarians in 1973. | |||
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