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"Independent reporting that life in England is so shite that many asylum seekers are risking their lives to go back to Europe..
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They actually said "shite".?. |
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"Independent reporting that life in England is so shite that many asylum seekers are risking their lives to go back to Europe..
They actually said "shite".?."
I believe the quote was (verbatim):
"Eeee by gum! Has tha seen how shite it is owwer there? A'hm buggerin' reet back from whence I came wi' my old pal Fred 'ere"
True story. |
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"Independent reporting that life in England is so shite that many asylum seekers are risking their lives to go back to Europe..
They actually said "shite".?.
I believe the quote was (verbatim):
"Eeee by gum! Has tha seen how shite it is owwer there? A'hm buggerin' reet back from whence I came wi' my old pal Fred 'ere"
True story. "
'Appen it did, chook |
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"Independent reporting that life in England is so shite that many asylum seekers are risking their lives to go back to Europe..
They actually said "shite".?.
I believe the quote was (verbatim):
"Eeee by gum! Has tha seen how shite it is owwer there? A'hm buggerin' reet back from whence I came wi' my old pal Fred 'ere"
True story. "
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"Independent reporting that life in England is so shite that many asylum seekers are risking their lives to go back to Europe..
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Bit of detail wouldn't go amiss before you post your mad shite
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/asylum-seekers-europe-barracks-home-office-uk-b1797553.html |
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"How do you say "shite" in farsi? Google translate is unclear.
Just pull a suitable face 
Universal language  "
It'd save a lot of money on IELTS tests. We all speak mime  No need for immigrants to learn English |
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"How do you say "shite" in farsi? Google translate is unclear.
Just pull a suitable face
Universal language "
Oh I dunno. I heard blowing a raspberry in Syria is wholly and deeply offensive. I wouldn't trust body language.  |
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"How do you say "shite" in farsi? Google translate is unclear.
Just pull a suitable face
Universal language
It'd save a lot of money on IELTS tests. We all speak mime No need for immigrants to learn English"
Ahhhhhhhh IELTS. My favourite little green bits of paper |
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"How do you say "shite" in farsi? Google translate is unclear.
Just pull a suitable face
Universal language
Oh I dunno. I heard blowing a raspberry in Syria is wholly and deeply offensive. I wouldn't trust body language. "
Does blowing a raspberry make it's styles stand on end? |
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"How do you say "shite" in farsi? Google translate is unclear.
Just pull a suitable face
Universal language
It'd save a lot of money on IELTS tests. We all speak mime No need for immigrants to learn English
Ahhhhhhhh IELTS. My favourite little green bits of paper "
I wouldn't know. Exemption  |
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"How do you say "shite" in farsi? Google translate is unclear.
Just pull a suitable face
Universal language
It'd save a lot of money on IELTS tests. We all speak mime No need for immigrants to learn English
Ahhhhhhhh IELTS. My favourite little green bits of paper
I wouldn't know. Exemption "
It's been cathartic not to have to scan hundreds of the things in the new paper free era. Instead, I have to download scans one at a time  |
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OP, I’ve noticed you are rather despondent about Britain in your posts. A few years living in most parts of the world would make you rather more appreciative of it and to see that it really is rather admired still. That has been my experience. There is no one as harsh on Britain as a Brit.
I am talking about generally, of course, not specific micro cases of a few people’s opinions. |
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"OP, I’ve noticed you are rather despondent about Britain in your posts. A few years living in most parts of the world would make you rather more appreciative of it and to see that it really is rather admired still. That has been my experience. There is no one as harsh on Britain as a Brit.
I am talking about generally, of course, not specific micro cases of a few people’s opinions."
That's you told Tom! |
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"OP, I’ve noticed you are rather despondent about Britain in your posts. A few years living in most parts of the world would make you rather more appreciative of it and to see that it really is rather admired still. That has been my experience. There is no one as harsh on Britain as a Brit.
I am talking about generally, of course, not specific micro cases of a few people’s opinions.
That's you told Tom! "
I don’t mean to lecture. He is entitled to his opinion, of course. I’m simply saying that Britain isn’t anywhere near as bad as certain newspapers portray it to be here. It’s not perfect and no nation is but in general, the foreigners I know who are living here, albeit temporarily, love it here and are in awe of the advantages we have here, like free healthcare for a start, amongst many many other things. These are people who are here for the sole purpose of putting their children through our well known boarding schools, which is an enormous ‘export’ as it contributes billions in terms of the fees, tuition, housing, insurance, etc that these families pay into the economy without taking a penny from it.
If the UK is ‘shit’, why is half the world still competing fiercely to get into our world renowned schools and universities? This is my own personal experience of this issue alone, here, now. |
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"OP, I’ve noticed you are rather despondent about Britain in your posts. A few years living in most parts of the world would make you rather more appreciative of it and to see that it really is rather admired still. That has been my experience. There is no one as harsh on Britain as a Brit.
I am talking about generally, of course, not specific micro cases of a few people’s opinions.
That's you told Tom!
I don’t mean to lecture. He is entitled to his opinion, of course. I’m simply saying that Britain isn’t anywhere near as bad as certain newspapers portray it to be here. It’s not perfect and no nation is but in general, the foreigners I know who are living here, albeit temporarily, love it here and are in awe of the advantages we have here, like free healthcare for a start, amongst many many other things. These are people who are here for the sole purpose of putting their children through our well known boarding schools, which is an enormous ‘export’ as it contributes billions in terms of the fees, tuition, housing, insurance, etc that these families pay into the economy without taking a penny from it.
If the UK is ‘shit’, why is half the world still competing fiercely to get into our world renowned schools and universities? This is my own personal experience of this issue alone, here, now."
That's me told too
Does every discussion really need to be so black and white? I love a bit of grey myself - like a silver fox of a conversation. True flexible open discussion and learning as opposed to conflicting "opinions" based in our limited personal worldly experience  |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Well in my own clumbsy way I was paraphrasing an article that I read in the Independent. Of course I am not as eloquent as many on here. The story for me is one of dashed dreams. Economic migrants risking life to get here then finding that the English garden of Roses is more a English hedge of thorns. Life in an army camp riddled with Covid and time to try your luck elsewhere. Do I think that England is shite? No. Do I think there are better places to live in England than others? Hell yes..
Whitby for one. Harrogate another, York etc. Some other places less desirable for me such as London... can't stand the place...
But those who risk all get here then risk all to get back.. an interesting story even if it's only one or two leaving but as we know.. you can't keep everyone happy...
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"OP, I’ve noticed you are rather despondent about Britain in your posts. A few years living in most parts of the world would make you rather more appreciative of it and to see that it really is rather admired still. That has been my experience. There is no one as harsh on Britain as a Brit.
I am talking about generally, of course, not specific micro cases of a few people’s opinions.
That's you told Tom!
I don’t mean to lecture. He is entitled to his opinion, of course. I’m simply saying that Britain isn’t anywhere near as bad as certain newspapers portray it to be here. It’s not perfect and no nation is but in general, the foreigners I know who are living here, albeit temporarily, love it here and are in awe of the advantages we have here, like free healthcare for a start, amongst many many other things. These are people who are here for the sole purpose of putting their children through our well known boarding schools, which is an enormous ‘export’ as it contributes billions in terms of the fees, tuition, housing, insurance, etc that these families pay into the economy without taking a penny from it.
If the UK is ‘shit’, why is half the world still competing fiercely to get into our world renowned schools and universities? This is my own personal experience of this issue alone, here, now.
That's me told too
Does every discussion really need to be so black and white? I love a bit of grey myself - like a silver fox of a conversation. True flexible open discussion and learning as opposed to conflicting "opinions" based in our limited personal worldly experience "
You may have misunderstood me. I am not telling you nor the OP anything in the way that you mean it. I am giving my observation of life in England as being not quite as bad as the article might suggest. It is neither black or white, simply an opinion amongst others and my own experience and observation living abroad and now in the UK. I was merely citing an example of my observation. It is simply to offer a balanced view.
Perhaps I have misunderstood Forum etiquette. Are we supposed to go along with the OP’s opinions if we want to post in a thread? I’m not quite sure what you mean by ‘black and white’. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Try living in China with religious intolerance.
Or Russia with homophobic hatred and persecution.
Or how about Venezuela or Belarus with corrupt leaders.
There's also North Korea run by a mad dictator.
How about Europe who are fucking up the vaccine rollout putting lives at risk.
We have it good here, it's often forgotten there are places on earth that are a hell hole compared to our Island. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You may have misunderstood me. I am not telling you nor the OP anything in the way that you mean it. I am giving my observation of life in England as being not quite as bad as the article might suggest. It is neither black or white, simply an opinion amongst others and my own experience and observation living abroad and now in the UK. I was merely citing an example of my observation. It is simply to offer a balanced view.
Perhaps I have misunderstood Forum etiquette. Are we supposed to go along with the OP’s opinions if we want to post in a thread? I’m not quite sure what you mean by ‘black and white’."
You've misunderstood nothing, friend. Welcome to the madhouse. |
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"Well in my own clumbsy way I was paraphrasing an article that I read in the Independent. Of course I am not as eloquent as many on here. The story for me is one of dashed dreams. Economic migrants risking life to get here then finding that the English garden of Roses is more a English hedge of thorns. Life in an army camp riddled with Covid and time to try your luck elsewhere. Do I think that England is shite? No. Do I think there are better places to live in England than others? Hell yes..
Whitby for one. Harrogate another, York etc. Some other places less desirable for me such as London... can't stand the place...
But those who risk all get here then risk all to get back.. an interesting story even if it's only one or two leaving but as we know.. you can't keep everyone happy...
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I agree that in their circumstance, it is awful. Their expectations of what they would receive here is not what they had been led to believe. It is a matter of dashed hopes and dreams and very sad. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How do you say "shite" in farsi? Google translate is unclear.
Just pull a suitable face
Universal language
It'd save a lot of money on IELTS tests. We all speak mime No need for immigrants to learn English"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well in my own clumbsy way I was paraphrasing an article that I read in the Independent. Of course I am not as eloquent as many on here. The story for me is one of dashed dreams. Economic migrants risking life to get here then finding that the English garden of Roses is more a English hedge of thorns. Life in an army camp riddled with Covid and time to try your luck elsewhere. Do I think that England is shite? No. Do I think there are better places to live in England than others? Hell yes..
Whitby for one. Harrogate another, York etc. Some other places less desirable for me such as London... can't stand the place...
But those who risk all get here then risk all to get back.. an interesting story even if it's only one or two leaving but as we know.. you can't keep everyone happy...
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It's sad but often the grass is greener.....
There are lovely places in England and others not so great.  |
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I think that some migrants fall for the old “streets paved with gold” myth and when the reality of working in some illegal sweat shop or for an illegal gang master. Then to top it all, living 5 to a room in some dodgy converted HMO or similar hits home then maybe they do wonder if the juice is worth the squeeze.
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"I think that some migrants fall for the old “streets paved with gold” myth and when the reality of working in some illegal sweat shop or for an illegal gang master. Then to top it all, living 5 to a room in some dodgy converted HMO or similar hits home then maybe they do wonder if the juice is worth the squeeze.
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Quite so. It would be the same has they stayed behind perhaps but they believed that could ‘make it’. It’s awful when you see a family risking their lives to get across the Channel and you can only hope that they can ‘make it’.
I am a firm believer in immigration. A nation stagnates and stifles when it remains insular. I have seen this in Asia where they have had exclusion policies only to be desperately reversing them now in order to become more competitive on a global platform. I have seen children of Vietnamese ‘boat prople’ who are politicians, bankers, lawyers, doctors, etc in Australia now. |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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I am a firm believer in immigration. A nation stagnates and stifles when it remains insular. I have seen this in Asia where they have had exclusion policies only to be desperately reversing them now in order to become more competitive on a global platform. I have seen children of Vietnamese ‘boat prople’ who are politicians, bankers, lawyers, doctors, etc in Australia now."
Quite so.
If we (and of course, other nations anywhere) did not have immigration, we would miss out culturally and biologically in the long term.
A gene pool that remains static, becomes weaker over time and our species’ history has been punctuated by many episodes of migration and genetic exchange. |
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Well having a house in France I have seen how the young guys trying to get over to the U.K. live there - they don’t get any support from the State and the U.K.’s roads are still paved with gold as far as they are concerned.
The devil is in the detail - EU rules state that everyone has to have equal treatment, so if they haven’t paid into the system they can’t claim. We fell foul of the system because we had different levels of support. |
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"I think that some migrants fall for the old “streets paved with gold” myth and when the reality of working in some illegal sweat shop or for an illegal gang master. Then to top it all, living 5 to a room in some dodgy converted HMO or similar hits home then maybe they do wonder if the juice is worth the squeeze.
Quite so. It would be the same has they stayed behind perhaps but they believed that could ‘make it’. It’s awful when you see a family risking their lives to get across the Channel and you can only hope that they can ‘make it’.
I am a firm believer in immigration. A nation stagnates and stifles when it remains insular. I have seen this in Asia where they have had exclusion policies only to be desperately reversing them now in order to become more competitive on a global platform. I have seen children of Vietnamese ‘boat prople’ who are politicians, bankers, lawyers, doctors, etc in Australia now."
My job involves educating many such young people. It is extremely rewarding. |
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"OP, I’ve noticed you are rather despondent about Britain in your posts. A few years living in most parts of the world would make you rather more appreciative of it and to see that it really is rather admired still. That has been my experience. There is no one as harsh on Britain as a Brit.
I am talking about generally, of course, not specific micro cases of a few people’s opinions.
That's you told Tom!
I don’t mean to lecture. He is entitled to his opinion, of course. I’m simply saying that Britain isn’t anywhere near as bad as certain newspapers portray it to be here. It’s not perfect and no nation is but in general, the foreigners I know who are living here, albeit temporarily, love it here and are in awe of the advantages we have here, like free healthcare for a start, amongst many many other things. These are people who are here for the sole purpose of putting their children through our well known boarding schools, which is an enormous ‘export’ as it contributes billions in terms of the fees, tuition, housing, insurance, etc that these families pay into the economy without taking a penny from it.
If the UK is ‘shit’, why is half the world still competing fiercely to get into our world renowned schools and universities? This is my own personal experience of this issue alone, here, now.
That's me told too
Does every discussion really need to be so black and white? I love a bit of grey myself - like a silver fox of a conversation. True flexible open discussion and learning as opposed to conflicting "opinions" based in our limited personal worldly experience
You may have misunderstood me. I am not telling you nor the OP anything in the way that you mean it. I am giving my observation of life in England as being not quite as bad as the article might suggest. It is neither black or white, simply an opinion amongst others and my own experience and observation living abroad and now in the UK. I was merely citing an example of my observation. It is simply to offer a balanced view.
Perhaps I have misunderstood Forum etiquette. Are we supposed to go along with the OP’s opinions if we want to post in a thread? I’m not quite sure what you mean by ‘black and white’."
Crossed wires I guess fella. As far as I'm concerned there is no forum etiquette although some folk will no doubt hold differing views on that subject. I honestly believe people will judge others on the etiquette, approach and motivation they display as individuals rather those imposed invisibly by the fab cooperative.
Welcome to fab though and enjoy the forum |
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So asylum seekers put life’s there own life’s at risk to come here then they decide it’s not as good as they thought it’s not oz it’s a real place with difficult situations going on. We are very lucky to be born here. I’ve never known a Scottish man getting on a boat for asylum in Syria |
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"So asylum seekers put life’s there own life’s at risk to come here then they decide it’s not as good as they thought it’s not oz it’s a real place with difficult situations going on. We are very lucky to be born here. I’ve never known a Scottish man getting on a boat for asylum in Syria "
Why is it that the poor Scots & Welsh don’t migrate to England? |
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"So asylum seekers put life’s there own life’s at risk to come here then they decide it’s not as good as they thought it’s not oz it’s a real place with difficult situations going on. We are very lucky to be born here. I’ve never known a Scottish man getting on a boat for asylum in Syria
Why is it that the poor Scots & Welsh don’t migrate to England?"
Some do buy driving down a motorway and some English go the other way dependant on jobs, love, running away from Walsall  |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Well it's interesting that the union of England Scotland and Northern Ireland may fall.. and perhaps we will see Scotland join the EU and England remain out. I imagine that being an economic migrant fleeing war torn France may find a more desirable life in Scotland. Jungle camps form south of Hadrian's wall.. Cumbrian Police turning a blind eye to those crossing the wall into Scotland and a pop star apologising to those in the camp on behalf of Scotland..
2084... Mark my Words |
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"Well it's interesting that the union of England Scotland and Northern Ireland may fall.. and perhaps we will see Scotland join the EU and England remain out. I imagine that being an economic migrant fleeing war torn France may find a more desirable life in Scotland. Jungle camps form south of Hadrian's wall.. Cumbrian Police turning a blind eye to those crossing the wall into Scotland and a pop star apologising to those in the camp on behalf of Scotland..
2084... Mark my Words"
2084? We’ll all be eaten by sharks or whatever other doom-laden picture you painted for us long before that.
If I make it to 3 o’clock I’ll be amazed |
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"And when they realise that it's cold, wet and full of midges they will risk cutting their knees to cross Hadrian's wall once again.."
I’m happy with that. I heard wee Nicola has already started a wall. At least you guys won’t need a dingy to get home |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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"And when they realise that it's cold, wet and full of midges they will risk cutting their knees to cross Hadrian's wall once again..
I’m happy with that. I heard wee Nicola has already started a wall. At least you guys won’t need a dingy to get home "
Scotland will build a wall and the English will pay for it.. |
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"And when they realise that it's cold, wet and full of midges they will risk cutting their knees to cross Hadrian's wall once again..
I’m happy with that. I heard wee Nicola has already started a wall. At least you guys won’t need a dingy to get home
Scotland will build a wall and the English will pay for it.."
Even better |
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"And when they realise that it's cold, wet and full of midges they will risk cutting their knees to cross Hadrian's wall once again..
I’m happy with that. I heard wee Nicola has already started a wall. At least you guys won’t need a dingy to get home
Scotland will build a wall and the English will pay for it.."
Why not. We pay for everything else up there........ |
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"And when they realise that it's cold, wet and full of midges they will risk cutting their knees to cross Hadrian's wall once again..
I’m happy with that. I heard wee Nicola has already started a wall. At least you guys won’t need a dingy to get home
Scotland will build a wall and the English will pay for it..
Why not. We pay for everything else up there........"
Lol so the people who live in Scotland don’t pay taxes? We have 5 million people England have 60 million. I don’t go down the route of generalising nations of people as through experience you meet nice and not so nice people wherever you go. I didn’t even vote for wee Nicola although she has done well through corona virus |
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"And when they realise that it's cold, wet and full of midges they will risk cutting their knees to cross Hadrian's wall once again..
I’m happy with that. I heard wee Nicola has already started a wall. At least you guys won’t need a dingy to get home
Scotland will build a wall and the English will pay for it..
Why not. We pay for everything else up there........
Lol so the people who live in Scotland don’t pay taxes? We have 5 million people England have 60 million. I don’t go down the route of generalising nations of people as through experience you meet nice and not so nice people wherever you go. I didn’t even vote for wee Nicola although she has done well through corona virus "
It was kinda tongue in cheek chap |
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"And when they realise that it's cold, wet and full of midges they will risk cutting their knees to cross Hadrian's wall once again..
I’m happy with that. I heard wee Nicola has already started a wall. At least you guys won’t need a dingy to get home
Scotland will build a wall and the English will pay for it..
Why not. We pay for everything else up there........
Lol so the people who live in Scotland don’t pay taxes? We have 5 million people England have 60 million. I don’t go down the route of generalising nations of people as through experience you meet nice and not so nice people wherever you go. I didn’t even vote for wee Nicola although she has done well through corona virus
It was kinda tongue in cheek chap "
I know mate |
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"Independent reporting that life in England is so shite that many asylum seekers are risking their lives to go back to Europe..
Bit of detail wouldn't go amiss before you post your mad shite
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/asylum-seekers-europe-barracks-home-office-uk-b1797553.html"
You would think a humane gmnt would actually be appalled by that. |
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"And when they realise that it's cold, wet and full of midges they will risk cutting their knees to cross Hadrian's wall once again..
I’m happy with that. I heard wee Nicola has already started a wall. At least you guys won’t need a dingy to get home
Scotland will build a wall and the English will pay for it..
Why not. We pay for everything else up there........
Lol so the people who live in Scotland don’t pay taxes? We have 5 million people England have 60 million. I don’t go down the route of generalising nations of people as through experience you meet nice and not so nice people wherever you go. I didn’t even vote for wee Nicola although she has done well through corona virus
It was kinda tongue in cheek chap
I know mate "
I can never work out what is worse. Having one of the Krankies in charge or one of the chuckle brother, makes no odds, as Robin Williams said
Politics: “Poli” a Latin word meaning "many" and "tics" meaning "bloodsucking creatures". |
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"And when they realise that it's cold, wet and full of midges they will risk cutting their knees to cross Hadrian's wall once again..
I’m happy with that. I heard wee Nicola has already started a wall. At least you guys won’t need a dingy to get home
Scotland will build a wall and the English will pay for it..
Why not. We pay for everything else up there........
Lol so the people who live in Scotland don’t pay taxes? We have 5 million people England have 60 million. I don’t go down the route of generalising nations of people as through experience you meet nice and not so nice people wherever you go. I didn’t even vote for wee Nicola although she has done well through corona virus
It was kinda tongue in cheek chap
I know mate
I can never work out what is worse. Having one of the Krankies in charge or one of the chuckle brother, makes no odds, as Robin Williams said
Politics: “Poli” a Latin word meaning "many" and "tics" meaning "bloodsucking creatures"."
Although I wouldn’t want to do there job. A worldwide pandemic hits and everyone expects them to just know what to do. Even if you do something well it’s never going to suit everyone |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Did the independent mention their source? How many asylum seekers?
I'm guessing they probably didnt want to be named."
I am guessing that it was probably just person and the papers exaggerated as usual... |
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"Did the independent mention their source? How many asylum seekers?
I'm guessing they probably didnt want to be named.
I am guessing that it was probably just person and the papers exaggerated as usual... "
Course they did Thomas
The independent is renowned for its sensationalist and inaccurate reporting. |
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1.2 million workers from overseas have gone back home in the pandemic, 700,000 from the greater London area alone..
Mostly down to no work as hospitality, retail etc has closed down..
They'll be back.. |
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"1.2 million workers from overseas have gone back home in the pandemic, 700,000 from the greater London area alone..
Mostly down to no work as hospitality, retail etc has closed down..
They'll be back.. "
It’s the same in mainland europe so where are they going to? Isle of Man |
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"1.2 million workers from overseas have gone back home in the pandemic, 700,000 from the greater London area alone..
Mostly down to no work as hospitality, retail etc has closed down..
They'll be back..
It’s the same in mainland europe so where are they going to? Isle of Man "
Home to families, bit of a global thing..
Some Aussies are still waiting to get home.. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"1.2 million workers from overseas have gone back home in the pandemic, 700,000 from the greater London area alone..
Mostly down to no work as hospitality, retail etc has closed down..
They'll be back..
It’s the same in mainland europe so where are they going to? Isle of Man
Home to families, bit of a global thing..
Some Aussies are still waiting to get home.."
Well I wish one in particular would try harder...  |
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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago
Near Wells |
I think the UK is a wonderful place to live and I hate it when people just moan about it.
As others have said we have a lot of good things going. If you don't like, leave or change what you don't like. |
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"OP, I’ve noticed you are rather despondent about Britain in your posts. A few years living in most parts of the world would make you rather more appreciative of it and to see that it really is rather admired still. That has been my experience. There is no one as harsh on Britain as a Brit.
I am talking about generally, of course, not specific micro cases of a few people’s opinions.
That's you told Tom!
I don’t mean to lecture. He is entitled to his opinion, of course. I’m simply saying that Britain isn’t anywhere near as bad as certain newspapers portray it to be here. It’s not perfect and no nation is but in general, the foreigners I know who are living here, albeit temporarily, love it here and are in awe of the advantages we have here, like free healthcare for a start, amongst many many other things. These are people who are here for the sole purpose of putting their children through our well known boarding schools, which is an enormous ‘export’ as it contributes billions in terms of the fees, tuition, housing, insurance, etc that these families pay into the economy without taking a penny from it.
If the UK is ‘shit’, why is half the world still competing fiercely to get into our world renowned schools and universities? This is my own personal experience of this issue alone, here, now.
That's me told too
Does every discussion really need to be so black and white? I love a bit of grey myself - like a silver fox of a conversation. True flexible open discussion and learning as opposed to conflicting "opinions" based in our limited personal worldly experience
You may have misunderstood me. I am not telling you nor the OP anything in the way that you mean it. I am giving my observation of life in England as being not quite as bad as the article might suggest. It is neither black or white, simply an opinion amongst others and my own experience and observation living abroad and now in the UK. I was merely citing an example of my observation. It is simply to offer a balanced view.
Perhaps I have misunderstood Forum etiquette. Are we supposed to go along with the OP’s opinions if we want to post in a thread? I’m not quite sure what you mean by ‘black and white’.
Crossed wires I guess fella. As far as I'm concerned there is no forum etiquette although some folk will no doubt hold differing views on that subject. I honestly believe people will judge others on the etiquette, approach and motivation they display as individuals rather those imposed invisibly by the fab cooperative.
Welcome to fab though and enjoy the forum "
. Seriously, you’re starting to make me nervous (I say with a little nervous chuckle) Fab cooperative? Some folk? (Gulp)
Not to worry, there is always some form of ‘etiquette’ when groups gather. It’s natural. How we let it manifest is something we need be mindful of, I suppose. I’ll get the hang of it in time. Thanks for the welcome. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"OP, I’ve noticed you are rather despondent about Britain in your posts. A few years living in most parts of the world would make you rather more appreciative of it and to see that it really is rather admired still. That has been my experience. There is no one as harsh on Britain as a Brit.
I am talking about generally, of course, not specific micro cases of a few people’s opinions."
I have to agree with you there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So asylum seekers put life’s there own life’s at risk to come here then they decide it’s not as good as they thought it’s not oz it’s a real place with difficult situations going on. We are very lucky to be born here. I’ve never known a Scottish man getting on a boat for asylum in Syria
Why is it that the poor Scots & Welsh don’t migrate to England?"
James VI of Scotland invaded England in 1603. Why Nicola Sturgeon and her cohorts are fighting to ‘leave’, I have no idea? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Did the independent mention their source? How many asylum seekers?
I'm guessing they probably didnt want to be named.
I am guessing that it was probably just person and the papers exaggerated as usual... "
I have personal experience of how journalists make up facts when they can’t get a source. I was questioned about a personal matter relating to a prominent family at a wake, no less!! Journalists pretending to be family friends to attend and asking questions but being turned away. When no one talked to them, most reported what they knew but one national broadsheet included completely nonsensical facts with diagrams showing ‘what happened’!!! ?????? it was all from the reporters’ imagination and utter fantasy. It wasn’t even logical. |
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