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"I'd have gone with Mortar Boards off to teachers "I wish I'd thought of that | |||
But what can you do, we're in mid pandemic and most of us are healthy and safe, so mustn't grumble. It will get back to normal-ish at some point | |||
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"We do ok here so I can't really complain but I definitely feel for those with kids who are really struggling or where schools aren't supporting key workers. The work they give my girl is pretty basic to allow for the spread in abilities and they've recently dropped to just 4 lessons per day which is basically three and a half hours in total, which imo isn't anything close to what they need to be doing to keep on track and not fall behind. My daughter isn't remotely challenged (remotely) and it's beginning to show, she's a natural smarty pants (must be from her mother's side) and only thrives when her brain is being stretched. "What can I do now daddy, I'm bored" is the new norm. Not to mention she misses her mates and life with her old man is getting a little boring now, especially as I have work commitments
But what can you do, we're in mid pandemic and most of us are healthy and safe, so mustn't grumble. It will get back to normal-ish at some point "In primary school the children only really do about 4 hrs of actual lessons by the time you take into account break times, assemblies, lunch times, registrations, getting ready at the end end of the day. Plus PE a couple of times per week. But there are lots of free educational websites if you want some extras. Lou x | |||
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"My grandson excels at maths..he's 8. The work set wasn't challenging for him so I left him to it to just turn the shower on. I came back down, I could still here the teacher talking but when I looked over he'd switched tabs to a games tab! I couldn't believe it..crafty little man. I won't for that again." Quite a lot are doing that! I’ve had to threaten to take their phone during school hours too J x | |||
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"It's hard working and I have one child who is dyslexic and needs a lot of support. Especially with tasks write a poem about the animal a to z. Whilst the other child's work is so basic he's kicking off because he's bored and I'm trying to find him extra work to do. It's resorted in tears this week I can't lie" I have no idea about the teaching a child with dyslexia but I can imagine that it's not easy on your own. Working with 2 kids homeschooling I really take my hat off to you x | |||
"My grandson excels at maths..he's 8. The work set wasn't challenging for him so I left him to it to just turn the shower on. I came back down, I could still here the teacher talking but when I looked over he'd switched tabs to a games tab! I couldn't believe it..crafty little man. I won't for that again. Quite a lot are doing that! I’ve had to threaten to take their phone during school hours too J x" That's the threat I also made x | |||
"I think it’s been quite good for some parents to have an insight into how their child learns and their ability. I’ve heard many parents say how worried they are because their child doesn’t pay attention, doesn’t do the work, doesn’t sit still etc. Imagine having 30 of them to contend at with, all with different needs, personalities. abilities etc. And 30 sets of parents to placate! I think most schools have been fantastic at adapting to remote learning this time round, it was a steep learning curve for everyone. Lou x " What surprised me was even at 4 my granddaughter does not like to get anything wrong. I have watched her hold back even when she knows the answer. | |||
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"Anyone home schooling! If you're working and home schooling that's no mean feat! I have recently had a sample of it omg it was hard work! I don't know how people get any of their own work done. Mind you kids can be funny and it is rewarding watching them grow "Love you to home school me | |||
"Anyone home schooling! If you're working and home schooling that's no mean feat! I have recently had a sample of it omg it was hard work! I don't know how people get any of their own work done. Mind you kids can be funny and it is rewarding watching them grow
Love you to home school me "I'd have you stood in the corners with your hands on your head...ah the good old days  | |||
"Our ultimate fantasy at this moment in time is a lovely kids free afternoon nap!!! It’s come to this "Awe bless | |||
"I'm not sure how we would have managed. Our two were very different and I suspect we would have struggled. Add to that the parents who would have been in the school WhatsApp group claiming to be teaching their 6 year old nuclear physics while running a multi national company and training for the olympics. " Mines already a star at track and field | |||
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"We do ok here so I can't really complain but I definitely feel for those with kids who are really struggling or where schools aren't supporting key workers. The work they give my girl is pretty basic to allow for the spread in abilities and they've recently dropped to just 4 lessons per day which is basically three and a half hours in total, which imo isn't anything close to what they need to be doing to keep on track and not fall behind. My daughter isn't remotely challenged (remotely) and it's beginning to show, she's a natural smarty pants (must be from her mother's side) and only thrives when her brain is being stretched. "What can I do now daddy, I'm bored" is the new norm. Not to mention she misses her mates and life with her old man is getting a little boring now, especially as I have work commitments
But what can you do, we're in mid pandemic and most of us are healthy and safe, so mustn't grumble. It will get back to normal-ish at some point
In primary school the children only really do about 4 hrs of actual lessons by the time you take into account break times, assemblies, lunch times, registrations, getting ready at the end end of the day. Plus PE a couple of times per week.
But there are lots of free educational websites if you want some extras.
Lou x "My girl is 11 and at secondary school. I teach her all sorts myself tbh, some says we just do some art or woodworking or something or talk on different subjects. But three and a half hours each day with no homework isn't really enough from the school. I also have friends who are front line NHS workers who are staying home to school their kids because the school has refused them a full week of care saying they don't have enough places. I don't think schools and school management (which is a business after all) are quite as shiney as we sometimes like to paint them. It's fine to deny NHS front liners places and refuse to open in the half term, but only if you understand that'll affect your NHS treatment, more people will die, and the restrictions you're complaining about having to deal with will be prolonged. Our school told one of my friends (a key worker) that they should just put their 6 year old in a quiet room next to them while they were working and that should be fine. My friend asked the school if they would do that to a child at school!  
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"We just need to try and remember we’re not expected to home school our children, we’re only expected to supervise them whilst they complete the work the school is setting. Some parents and children may want to do more, some will want to do less. Ultimately, you all need to be happy and healthy so don’t stress, do what you can when you can. And most teachers are still contactable if you need help. And remember, the end is in sight, they will be back to school before you know it. (I’m keeping everything crossed). And half term is only a week away. Lou x " Plonking them down in front of a pc or with a piece of paper with no interaction, is not a good way to make them want to learn. Kids need to find a joy of learning else they switch off. Also it's just isn't realistic in my case. One of the child's work has so many errors on a daily basis that I have to correct the questions before he can do it. The other is dyslexic and needs support. My friend who has a child with severe autism and is working full time, is being harassed by the school as they are falling behind. I sure there are lots of good teachers and schools out there. But from what I'm experiencing and hearing from my friends there are plenty of bad. | |||
"We do ok here so I can't really complain but I definitely feel for those with kids who are really struggling or where schools aren't supporting key workers. The work they give my girl is pretty basic to allow for the spread in abilities and they've recently dropped to just 4 lessons per day which is basically three and a half hours in total, which imo isn't anything close to what they need to be doing to keep on track and not fall behind. My daughter isn't remotely challenged (remotely) and it's beginning to show, she's a natural smarty pants (must be from her mother's side) and only thrives when her brain is being stretched. "What can I do now daddy, I'm bored" is the new norm. Not to mention she misses her mates and life with her old man is getting a little boring now, especially as I have work commitments
But what can you do, we're in mid pandemic and most of us are healthy and safe, so mustn't grumble. It will get back to normal-ish at some point
In primary school the children only really do about 4 hrs of actual lessons by the time you take into account break times, assemblies, lunch times, registrations, getting ready at the end end of the day. Plus PE a couple of times per week.
But there are lots of free educational websites if you want some extras.
Lou x
My girl is 11 and at secondary school. I teach her all sorts myself tbh, some says we just do some art or woodworking or something or talk on different subjects. But three and a half hours each day with no homework isn't really enough from the school. I also have friends who are front line NHS workers who are staying home to school their kids because the school has refused them a full week of care saying they don't have enough places. I don't think schools and school management (which is a business after all) are quite as shiney as we sometimes like to paint them. It's fine to deny NHS front liners places and refuse to open in the half term, but only if you understand that'll affect your NHS treatment, more people will die, and the restrictions you're complaining about having to deal with will be prolonged. Our school told one of my friends (a key worker) that they should just put their 6 year old in a quiet room next to them while they were working and that should be fine. My friend asked the school if they would do that to a child at school!
"My experience of schools in my areas is they will only refuse keyworker provision if they don’t have enough staff or space to safely look after the children. They may have to add criteria to limit numbers such as both parents being keyworkers or only offering part time places but the general rule is only one parent needs to be a keyworker. If you’re not happy with the quantity of work your daughter gets speak to her school. Some will provide additional work, many schools are conscious of the pressure of working parents or those with more than one child so they’re trying to find a balance with the workload. They’ll never get it right for everyone. I’m not sure why you say I’m complaining about restrictions.. I just said I’m keeping everything crossed that schools will reopen soon for those parents who are struggling. I’m all for restrictions and do not want them eased too early. Primarily because I’m from of family of frontline NHS and keyworkers. I was trying to be positive with my original response, parents should take the pressure off themselves. And the children. I hope your rant made you feel better though, no point bottling it up. Lou x | |||
"We just need to try and remember we’re not expected to home school our children, we’re only expected to supervise them whilst they complete the work the school is setting. Some parents and children may want to do more, some will want to do less. Ultimately, you all need to be happy and healthy so don’t stress, do what you can when you can. And most teachers are still contactable if you need help. And remember, the end is in sight, they will be back to school before you know it. (I’m keeping everything crossed). And half term is only a week away. Lou x Plonking them down in front of a pc or with a piece of paper with no interaction, is not a good way to make them want to learn. Kids need to find a joy of learning else they switch off. Also it's just isn't realistic in my case. One of the child's work has so many errors on a daily basis that I have to correct the questions before he can do it. The other is dyslexic and needs support. My friend who has a child with severe autism and is working full time, is being harassed by the school as they are falling behind. I sure there are lots of good teachers and schools out there. But from what I'm experiencing and hearing from my friends there are plenty of bad. " I never said not to interact with your child. I am also fully aware there will be children with SEND but my point was parents should try not to put too much pressure on themselves, that won’t be good for them or their child(den). Or put any joy into their learning. All families have different challenges. Lou x | |||
"We do ok here so I can't really complain but I definitely feel for those with kids who are really struggling or where schools aren't supporting key workers. The work they give my girl is pretty basic to allow for the spread in abilities and they've recently dropped to just 4 lessons per day which is basically three and a half hours in total, which imo isn't anything close to what they need to be doing to keep on track and not fall behind. My daughter isn't remotely challenged (remotely) and it's beginning to show, she's a natural smarty pants (must be from her mother's side) and only thrives when her brain is being stretched. "What can I do now daddy, I'm bored" is the new norm. Not to mention she misses her mates and life with her old man is getting a little boring now, especially as I have work commitments
But what can you do, we're in mid pandemic and most of us are healthy and safe, so mustn't grumble. It will get back to normal-ish at some point
In primary school the children only really do about 4 hrs of actual lessons by the time you take into account break times, assemblies, lunch times, registrations, getting ready at the end end of the day. Plus PE a couple of times per week.
But there are lots of free educational websites if you want some extras.
Lou x
My girl is 11 and at secondary school. I teach her all sorts myself tbh, some says we just do some art or woodworking or something or talk on different subjects. But three and a half hours each day with no homework isn't really enough from the school. I also have friends who are front line NHS workers who are staying home to school their kids because the school has refused them a full week of care saying they don't have enough places. I don't think schools and school management (which is a business after all) are quite as shiney as we sometimes like to paint them. It's fine to deny NHS front liners places and refuse to open in the half term, but only if you understand that'll affect your NHS treatment, more people will die, and the restrictions you're complaining about having to deal with will be prolonged. Our school told one of my friends (a key worker) that they should just put their 6 year old in a quiet room next to them while they were working and that should be fine. My friend asked the school if they would do that to a child at school!
My experience of schools in my areas is they will only refuse keyworker provision if they don’t have enough staff or space to safely look after the children. They may have to add criteria to limit numbers such as both parents being keyworkers or only offering part time places but the general rule is only one parent needs to be a keyworker.
If you’re not happy with the quantity of work your daughter gets speak to her school. Some will provide additional work, many schools are conscious of the pressure of working parents or those with more than one child so they’re trying to find a balance with the workload. They’ll never get it right for everyone.
I’m not sure why you say I’m complaining about restrictions.. I just said I’m keeping everything crossed that schools will reopen soon for those parents who are struggling. I’m all for restrictions and do not want them eased too early. Primarily because I’m from of family of frontline NHS and keyworkers.
I was trying to be positive with my original response, parents should take the pressure off themselves. And the children.
I hope your rant made you feel better though, no point bottling it up.
Lou x "Nah, it was a waste of time, I didn't get my point across at all. I wasn't talking about you complaining, more the teachers complaining at lack of resources because obviously myself and other parents have spoken to them to express our concerns. The schools response in my case was to ignore me when I said my daughter wasn't being challenged and reduce lessons from five down to four! In my friends case she's been told that they simply don't have space to cover all key workers, BUT she's a front line NHS worker in a role that involves clearing covid patients from hospital, so as a result things will be slower, yet the school care not, she's a number. In my opinion both my girls secondary school and my friend's child's primary have been next to useless, both in terms of their duty of care and thier willingness to blame others for their failures. Kids don't need to be taught just anything they need to follow a curriculum and develop in line with societies requirements. And parents shouldn't be stressing more than schoolteachers over their child's education and squeezing it in without structure. It's perfectly possible for teachers to adjust their working hours just as parents have had to. What are they actually doing for the rest of each day if they're only teaching lessons for 3.5 hours? They would usually have a class from 8.30 to 3.00, right? The rest of society has to fit in and get to the back of the vaccine queue while twenty something teachers say they can't work without a vaccine also. God I could rant all day about education in the UK, it's less about the financing, but more about its management and the big business impersonal approach schools take because the have become businesses with business managers rather than carers. Sad times ahead
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"We do ok here so I can't really complain but I definitely feel for those with kids who are really struggling or where schools aren't supporting key workers. The work they give my girl is pretty basic to allow for the spread in abilities and they've recently dropped to just 4 lessons per day which is basically three and a half hours in total, which imo isn't anything close to what they need to be doing to keep on track and not fall behind. My daughter isn't remotely challenged (remotely) and it's beginning to show, she's a natural smarty pants (must be from her mother's side) and only thrives when her brain is being stretched. "What can I do now daddy, I'm bored" is the new norm. Not to mention she misses her mates and life with her old man is getting a little boring now, especially as I have work commitments
But what can you do, we're in mid pandemic and most of us are healthy and safe, so mustn't grumble. It will get back to normal-ish at some point
In primary school the children only really do about 4 hrs of actual lessons by the time you take into account break times, assemblies, lunch times, registrations, getting ready at the end end of the day. Plus PE a couple of times per week.
But there are lots of free educational websites if you want some extras.
Lou x
My girl is 11 and at secondary school. I teach her all sorts myself tbh, some says we just do some art or woodworking or something or talk on different subjects. But three and a half hours each day with no homework isn't really enough from the school. I also have friends who are front line NHS workers who are staying home to school their kids because the school has refused them a full week of care saying they don't have enough places. I don't think schools and school management (which is a business after all) are quite as shiney as we sometimes like to paint them. It's fine to deny NHS front liners places and refuse to open in the half term, but only if you understand that'll affect your NHS treatment, more people will die, and the restrictions you're complaining about having to deal with will be prolonged. Our school told one of my friends (a key worker) that they should just put their 6 year old in a quiet room next to them while they were working and that should be fine. My friend asked the school if they would do that to a child at school!
My experience of schools in my areas is they will only refuse keyworker provision if they don’t have enough staff or space to safely look after the children. They may have to add criteria to limit numbers such as both parents being keyworkers or only offering part time places but the general rule is only one parent needs to be a keyworker.
If you’re not happy with the quantity of work your daughter gets speak to her school. Some will provide additional work, many schools are conscious of the pressure of working parents or those with more than one child so they’re trying to find a balance with the workload. They’ll never get it right for everyone.
I’m not sure why you say I’m complaining about restrictions.. I just said I’m keeping everything crossed that schools will reopen soon for those parents who are struggling. I’m all for restrictions and do not want them eased too early. Primarily because I’m from of family of frontline NHS and keyworkers.
I was trying to be positive with my original response, parents should take the pressure off themselves. And the children.
I hope your rant made you feel better though, no point bottling it up.
Lou x
Nah, it was a waste of time, I didn't get my point across at all. I wasn't talking about you complaining, more the teachers complaining at lack of resources because obviously myself and other parents have spoken to them to express our concerns. The schools response in my case was to ignore me when I said my daughter wasn't being challenged and reduce lessons from five down to four! In my friends case she's been told that they simply don't have space to cover all key workers, BUT she's a front line NHS worker in a role that involves clearing covid patients from hospital, so as a result things will be slower, yet the school care not, she's a number. In my opinion both my girls secondary school and my friend's child's primary have been next to useless, both in terms of their duty of care and thier willingness to blame others for their failures. Kids don't need to be taught just anything they need to follow a curriculum and develop in line with societies requirements. And parents shouldn't be stressing more than schoolteachers over their child's education and squeezing it in without structure.
It's perfectly possible for teachers to adjust their working hours just as parents have had to. What are they actually doing for the rest of each day if they're only teaching lessons for 3.5 hours? They would usually have a class from 8.30 to 3.00, right? The rest of society has to fit in and get to the back of the vaccine queue while twenty something teachers say they can't work without a vaccine also.
God I could rant all day about education in the UK, it's less about the financing, but more about its management and the big business impersonal approach schools take because the have become businesses with business managers rather than carers. Sad times ahead
"I’m not saying it’s perfect but we are in unprecedented times and we will all learn from our mistakes, including schools. As for what are the teachers doing... getting into school at 7.30 am to get set up for the 8.30 online registration and to greet the keyworker kids. Live lessons with the class and online pupils for 3-4 hrs. Supervising lunch breaks for keyworker kids, marking work and setting work for the rest of the day, answering parents emails or phone calls.. whilst still looking after the keyworker kids. Safeguarding meetings, welfare calls... Peer or professional training.. teachers are still learning too and have to adapt to the new way of learning. Prepare for issuing end of year grades in lieu of official exams. They usually leave school around 5.30pm to get home to their own children to see how they’re doing with their own school work. Some schools and teachers are a bit shit but many are working their arses off for our children. Lou x | |||
