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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Some brands of peanut butter are made by killing orangutans, apparently, and while I'm not particularly friends with any actual rangas I think causing their death is a bit strong.
Currently I have a jar of Heart and Soul which means well, but it's gloopy and unsatisfying like every other "ethical" brand I've tried.
This leaves me with; stop eating peanut butter or go back to murdering orangutans.
Unless you know a better brand? |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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Anything that is made using palm oil effectively threatens the natural habitat of our cousins the orangutans - chocolate is one of the biggest users of it and most brands use it, Cadbury's certainly do |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Anything that is made using palm oil effectively threatens the natural habitat of our cousins the orangutans - chocolate is one of the biggest users of it and most brands use it, Cadbury's certainly do"
Fortunately I'm no fan of chocolate. Peanut butter is a staple tho. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Anything that is made using palm oil effectively threatens the natural habitat of our cousins the orangutans - chocolate is one of the biggest users of it and most brands use it, Cadbury's certainly do"
Aaarrghh I didn't know this.  |
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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago
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"Anything that is made using palm oil effectively threatens the natural habitat of our cousins the orangutans - chocolate is one of the biggest users of it and most brands use it, Cadbury's certainly do
Aaarrghh I didn't know this. "
Nor me. And I love smooth peanut butter  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"P.S. not a regular consumer of peanut butter so can't help with alternatives I'm afraid "
I'm a jar a month bloke, this is gonna be a long month this month. Disappointed. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Anything that is made using palm oil effectively threatens the natural habitat of our cousins the orangutans - chocolate is one of the biggest users of it and most brands use it, Cadbury's certainly do
Aaarrghh I didn't know this. "
Ikr? It sucks. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think you should ditch peanut butter completely.
Stick to Marmite - it's the future
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You know, if I had to choose between the two I'd stick with Marmite for sure. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Anything that is made using palm oil effectively threatens the natural habitat of our cousins the orangutans - chocolate is one of the biggest users of it and most brands use it, Cadbury's certainly do
Aaarrghh I didn't know this.
Nor me. And I love smooth peanut butter "
Smooth is wrong... just wrong  |
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Google seems to have a few peanut butters that don't use palm oil, but whether you can get them easily in the UK is another question. I would imagine they would be more expensive, but that's understandable I guess. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If you try the Whole Earth brand (which is nice) they " ethically " source their Palm oil.
No idea how tbh but they say they do "
This was the one I tried first and I didn't like it as much as the ranga killing brands. Tbf it is better than the current gloop. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Google seems to have a few peanut butters that don't use palm oil, but whether you can get them easily in the UK is another question. I would imagine they would be more expensive, but that's understandable I guess."
The current gloop was £3 for a small jar  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"My favourite is Meridian peanut butter - it’s made from 100% peanuts, no added oil, sugar, salt etc. and you can buy it in most supermarkets, so it's easy to get hold of. 
V x"
Yep tried it. Co-op sell it near me. Again, wasn't a big fan. Is better (and cheaper) than Heart and Soul though. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think you should ditch peanut butter completely.
Stick to Marmite - it's the future
Where have you been all my life
The Marmite aisle in the local Waitrose  "
You have a waitrose? Posh. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've not tried it, but how tricky is it to make your own?
Sacks of peanuts from a wholesaler, roasted in the oven; blitzed in a blender; add salt, and stir in vegetable oil.
I've make cashew nut butter, and that was basically the same.
Cuts out palm oil problems and you can customise your blend. A bit of paprika maybe. Or nutmeg. Maybe ground ginger. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I've not tried it, but how tricky is it to make your own?
Sacks of peanuts from a wholesaler, roasted in the oven; blitzed in a blender; add salt, and stir in vegetable oil.
I've make cashew nut butter, and that was basically the same.
Cuts out palm oil problems and you can customise your blend. A bit of paprika maybe. Or nutmeg. Maybe ground ginger."
Adventurous, good shout. Might take more time and money than I'm willing to spend. |
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"I think you should ditch peanut butter completely.
Stick to Marmite - it's the future
Where have you been all my life
The Marmite aisle in the local Waitrose
You have a waitrose? Posh. "
I only there for foodie treats & to flirt with rich ladies |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Anything that is made using palm oil effectively threatens the natural habitat of our cousins the orangutans - chocolate is one of the biggest users of it and most brands use it, Cadbury's certainly do
Aaarrghh I didn't know this. "
Green and blacks don’t |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Aldi do one that I think is palm oil free
Ooh now this is exciting, I love a German supermarket.
Yes Aldi do one that is palm oil free and another which is 2% ethically sourced palm oil. "
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"Some brands of peanut butter are made by killing orangutans, apparently, and while I'm not particularly friends with any actual rangas I think causing their death is a bit strong.
Currently I have a jar of Heart and Soul which means well, but it's gloopy and unsatisfying like every other "ethical" brand I've tried.
This leaves me with; stop eating peanut butter or go back to murdering orangutans.
Unless you know a better brand?"
Buy some peanuts*. Put in a food processor. Turn it on and wait a bit. You'll soon have peanut butter.
There are a few brands on the market that are just peanuts, most have oils, sugars and other nasties in them.
*other nuts available. |
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"Anything that is made using palm oil effectively threatens the natural habitat of our cousins the orangutans - chocolate is one of the biggest users of it and most brands use it, Cadbury's certainly do
Aaarrghh I didn't know this.
Green and blacks don’t "
Green and Blacks were bought out by Cadbury wernt they? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Some brands of peanut butter are made by killing orangutans, apparently, and while I'm not particularly friends with any actual rangas I think causing their death is a bit strong.
Currently I have a jar of Heart and Soul which means well, but it's gloopy and unsatisfying like every other "ethical" brand I've tried.
This leaves me with; stop eating peanut butter or go back to murdering orangutans.
Unless you know a better brand?
Buy some peanuts*. Put in a food processor. Turn it on and wait a bit. You'll soon have peanut butter.
There are a few brands on the market that are just peanuts, most have oils, sugars and other nasties in them.
*other nuts available."
Do you make your own? I'm not sure I'm willing. I might, as KBD suggests, stick to Marmite in this scenario. |
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I'm really big on ethical shopping and what I call, food security. I spend ages looking for non palm oil products - then when I'm happily settled with something, I find they change the ingredients and Bam! palm oil is now listed on the ingredients 
I used to buy organic Whole Earth peanut butter, but I haven't bought any in ages - it apparently now contains 'sustainable palm oil' which is bullshit in my eyes, so I can't help you, OP, sorry.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I'm really big on ethical shopping and what I call, food security. I spend ages looking for non palm oil products - then when I'm happily settled with something, I find they change the ingredients and Bam! palm oil is now listed on the ingredients
I used to buy organic Whole Earth peanut butter, but I haven't bought any in ages - it apparently now contains 'sustainable palm oil' which is bullshit in my eyes, so I can't help you, OP, sorry.
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It's a mine field eh. |
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"Some brands of peanut butter are made by killing orangutans, apparently, and while I'm not particularly friends with any actual rangas I think causing their death is a bit strong.
Currently I have a jar of Heart and Soul which means well, but it's gloopy and unsatisfying like every other "ethical" brand I've tried.
This leaves me with; stop eating peanut butter or go back to murdering orangutans.
Unless you know a better brand?
Buy some peanuts*. Put in a food processor. Turn it on and wait a bit. You'll soon have peanut butter.
There are a few brands on the market that are just peanuts, most have oils, sugars and other nasties in them.
*other nuts available.
Do you make your own? I'm not sure I'm willing. I might, as KBD suggests, stick to Marmite in this scenario. "
My diet doesn't include stuff like that anymore but yep, making decent peanut butter exactly the way I like it at a fraction of the cost that involves nothing more than putting the blender in the dishwasher afterwards is a no brainer.
There are a few brands on the market that are just pure nut but most are full of processed oils and sugar. Last time I looked the gack that is Skippy was about 70% nut and even the Whole Earth brand wasnt just nut. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Some brands of peanut butter are made by killing orangutans, apparently, and while I'm not particularly friends with any actual rangas I think causing their death is a bit strong.
Currently I have a jar of Heart and Soul which means well, but it's gloopy and unsatisfying like every other "ethical" brand I've tried.
This leaves me with; stop eating peanut butter or go back to murdering orangutans.
Unless you know a better brand?
Buy some peanuts*. Put in a food processor. Turn it on and wait a bit. You'll soon have peanut butter.
There are a few brands on the market that are just peanuts, most have oils, sugars and other nasties in them.
*other nuts available.
Do you make your own? I'm not sure I'm willing. I might, as KBD suggests, stick to Marmite in this scenario.
My diet doesn't include stuff like that anymore but yep, making decent peanut butter exactly the way I like it at a fraction of the cost that involves nothing more than putting the blender in the dishwasher afterwards is a no brainer.
There are a few brands on the market that are just pure nut but most are full of processed oils and sugar. Last time I looked the gack that is Skippy was about 70% nut and even the Whole Earth brand wasnt just nut."
Interesting. I don't think purity ever bothered me. Intrigued what pure peanut butter is like now. A little dry I'd imagine. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
"Anything that is made using palm oil effectively threatens the natural habitat of our cousins the orangutans - chocolate is one of the biggest users of it and most brands use it, Cadbury's certainly do
Aaarrghh I didn't know this. "
It's US centric but a good article about palm oil use and it's effects here:
https://orangutan.org/palmoil/#:~:text=Not%20only%20is%20Palm%20Oil,killed%20in%20Palm%20Oil%20concessions. |
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"Some brands of peanut butter are made by killing orangutans, apparently, and while I'm not particularly friends with any actual rangas I think causing their death is a bit strong.
Currently I have a jar of Heart and Soul which means well, but it's gloopy and unsatisfying like every other "ethical" brand I've tried.
This leaves me with; stop eating peanut butter or go back to murdering orangutans.
Unless you know a better brand?
Buy some peanuts*. Put in a food processor. Turn it on and wait a bit. You'll soon have peanut butter.
There are a few brands on the market that are just peanuts, most have oils, sugars and other nasties in them.
*other nuts available.
Do you make your own? I'm not sure I'm willing. I might, as KBD suggests, stick to Marmite in this scenario.
My diet doesn't include stuff like that anymore but yep, making decent peanut butter exactly the way I like it at a fraction of the cost that involves nothing more than putting the blender in the dishwasher afterwards is a no brainer.
There are a few brands on the market that are just pure nut but most are full of processed oils and sugar. Last time I looked the gack that is Skippy was about 70% nut and even the Whole Earth brand wasnt just nut.
Interesting. I don't think purity ever bothered me. Intrigued what pure peanut butter is like now. A little dry I'd imagine."
It's not. They keep the peanut oil in in instead of taking it out and replacing it with a different one. A good nut butter will have a layer of nut oil on the top that you simply have to stir in.
Honest, all you have to do is Google, there are so many brands out there that are just nut. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Some brands of peanut butter are made by killing orangutans, apparently, and while I'm not particularly friends with any actual rangas I think causing their death is a bit strong.
Currently I have a jar of Heart and Soul which means well, but it's gloopy and unsatisfying like every other "ethical" brand I've tried.
This leaves me with; stop eating peanut butter or go back to murdering orangutans.
Unless you know a better brand?
Buy some peanuts*. Put in a food processor. Turn it on and wait a bit. You'll soon have peanut butter.
There are a few brands on the market that are just peanuts, most have oils, sugars and other nasties in them.
*other nuts available.
Do you make your own? I'm not sure I'm willing. I might, as KBD suggests, stick to Marmite in this scenario.
My diet doesn't include stuff like that anymore but yep, making decent peanut butter exactly the way I like it at a fraction of the cost that involves nothing more than putting the blender in the dishwasher afterwards is a no brainer.
There are a few brands on the market that are just pure nut but most are full of processed oils and sugar. Last time I looked the gack that is Skippy was about 70% nut and even the Whole Earth brand wasnt just nut.
Interesting. I don't think purity ever bothered me. Intrigued what pure peanut butter is like now. A little dry I'd imagine.
It's not. They keep the peanut oil in in instead of taking it out and replacing it with a different one. A good nut butter will have a layer of nut oil on the top that you simply have to stir in.
Honest, all you have to do is Google, there are so many brands out there that are just nut."
About a year ago, maybe two, I used Google for information! It's my first port of call for information tbh. After a year (or two) of using that information I got fed up. I thought a little chat with you lot might be fun and informative. Turns out I was right. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Sun pat peanut butter is palm oil free.
I have noticed over the last few years there has been a massive shift in using r*pe seed and sunflower oil instead of palm oil in noodles, bread and biscuits. Not sure it's conscious ethical reasons as they would of promoted it, it's probably just cost and availability.
I'm always alittle unsure with the sustainable palm oil as I haven't seen different silos that separate the 'sustainable' palm oil. I just do my best not to buy things with palm oil in, the annoying thing is when they change there ingredients! One thing to what is soap, a big user of palm oil. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Sun pat peanut butter is palm oil free.
I have noticed over the last few years there has been a massive shift in using r*pe seed and sunflower oil instead of palm oil in noodles, bread and biscuits. Not sure it's conscious ethical reasons as they would of promoted it, it's probably just cost and availability.
I'm always alittle unsure with the sustainable palm oil as I haven't seen different silos that separate the 'sustainable' palm oil. I just do my best not to buy things with palm oil in, the annoying thing is when they change there ingredients! One thing to what is soap, a big user of palm oil."
I haven't eaten Sun Pat in decades. Who'd have thought. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?"
No experts?  |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?"
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter "
*what did |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Try Yumello peanut butter buy online or Holland & Barrett should have, palm oil free and a few twists to flavouring "
On the list now, ta, though the Aldi one is holding 1st place atm... |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter
*what did"
Being back malnutrition and poverty and disease too?
Palm is pretty damn efficient compared to Rap3seed etc and it can actually be farmed responsibly, it just often isn't because of the lack of legislation in the regions where it's grown. People treat it like it's toxic because they're told to on social media and by people like .me. trying to sell them shit at a premium price to use in their comfortable UK lifestyles, but they really should be wiser x |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter
*what did
Being back malnutrition and poverty and disease too?
Palm is pretty damn efficient compared to Rap3seed etc and it can actually be farmed responsibly, it just often isn't because of the lack of legislation in the regions where it's grown. People treat it like it's toxic because they're told to on social media and by people like .me. trying to sell them shit at a premium price to use in their comfortable UK lifestyles, but they really should be wiser x"
Bring back*  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter
*what did
Being back malnutrition and poverty and disease too?
Palm is pretty damn efficient compared to Rap3seed etc and it can actually be farmed responsibly, it just often isn't because of the lack of legislation in the regions where it's grown. People treat it like it's toxic because they're told to on social media and by people like .me. trying to sell them shit at a premium price to use in their comfortable UK lifestyles, but they really should be wiser x"
It's a minefield mate |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter
*what did"
I've started spreading butter on bread again. Cows are bad too tho right? |
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"Try Yumello peanut butter buy online or Holland & Barrett should have, palm oil free and a few twists to flavouring
On the list now, ta, though the Aldi one is holding 1st place atm..."
If they venture north of the river and closer than 6 miles away, I’ll give it a go  |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter
*what did
Being back malnutrition and poverty and disease too?
Palm is pretty damn efficient compared to Rap3seed etc and it can actually be farmed responsibly, it just often isn't because of the lack of legislation in the regions where it's grown. People treat it like it's toxic because they're told to on social media and by people like .me. trying to sell them shit at a premium price to use in their comfortable UK lifestyles, but they really should be wiser x
It's a minefield mate "
I supply a shed loaf of palm free and sustainable palm products to the cosmetic industry. Maybe just ensure the palm in your PB is RSPO certified or summat, but I'd just advise enjoy while you still can before fashion dictates what's on your plate buddy |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Try Yumello peanut butter buy online or Holland & Barrett should have, palm oil free and a few twists to flavouring
On the list now, ta, though the Aldi one is holding 1st place atm...
If they venture north of the river and closer than 6 miles away, I’ll give it a go "
See, it's posh round your ends. I bet you have a waitrose too. Not one for at least 5 miles round are way. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Pip and Nut.
Try the maple one, it will change your life.
Not a fan sadly. Pip and nut I tried early on in the proceedings.
But maple! "
Fsr too sweet  |
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I love Sunpat, but don't like the palm oil issue. But find the alternatives aren't as strong in flavour.
However, we have a refill store near use that does home made peanut butter (as well as hummus, and other but butters), and it is seriously delish! More expensive, but is yummy and know where every ingredient comes from. |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter
*what did
Being back malnutrition and poverty and disease too?
Palm is pretty damn efficient compared to Rap3seed etc and it can actually be farmed responsibly, it just often isn't because of the lack of legislation in the regions where it's grown. People treat it like it's toxic because they're told to on social media and by people like .me. trying to sell them shit at a premium price to use in their comfortable UK lifestyles, but they really should be wiser x"
We do eat an awful lot of stuff we really dont need to though don't we, with no need to starve or be malnourished, if we didnt have such a ridiculous choice of food and whatever else is filled with palm oil. I am all about the small sustainable farming though, this global nonsense doesnt wash with me. Still send me the spice boats over though |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter
*what did
I've started spreading butter on bread again. Cows are bad too tho right? "
Damn cows |
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"Pip and Nut.
Try the maple one, it will change your life.
Not a fan sadly. Pip and nut I tried early on in the proceedings.
But maple!
Fsr too sweet "
This is where I get my inner sweetness from! |
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"Try Yumello peanut butter buy online or Holland & Barrett should have, palm oil free and a few twists to flavouring
On the list now, ta, though the Aldi one is holding 1st place atm...
If they venture north of the river and closer than 6 miles away, I’ll give it a go
See, it's posh round your ends. I bet you have a waitrose too. Not one for at least 5 miles round are way. "
Posh wouldn’t go that far but yes there is a Waitrose, bloody expensive  |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter
*what did
Being back malnutrition and poverty and disease too?
Palm is pretty damn efficient compared to Rap3seed etc and it can actually be farmed responsibly, it just often isn't because of the lack of legislation in the regions where it's grown. People treat it like it's toxic because they're told to on social media and by people like .me. trying to sell them shit at a premium price to use in their comfortable UK lifestyles, but they really should be wiser x
We do eat an awful lot of stuff we really dont need to though don't we, with no need to starve or be malnourished, if we didnt have such a ridiculous choice of food and whatever else is filled with palm oil. I am all about the small sustainable farming though, this global nonsense doesnt wash with me. Still send me the spice boats over though"
I watched a documentary about cinnamon (I know right, fucking rock n roll round here) and this guy and his family tended a crop that produced a bundle of 3' long sticks that stooped the bloke as hw carried it on his back. About a barrel in shape.
He went to a dealer who paid him £1 for the lot. One single quid. I ch*ked on my sandwich. Those little £1.50 jars we buy? Would have made 1000s of them. Pay the grower a decent price and I suspect they'll need less land to turn a coin and the wildlife can have a bit of space too.
I'd be happy to pay more too, but someone in the supply chain will pocket that as well no doubt. |
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"I love Sunpat, but don't like the palm oil issue. But find the alternatives aren't as strong in flavour.
However, we have a refill store near use that does home made peanut butter (as well as hummus, and other but butters), and it is seriously delish! More expensive, but is yummy and know where every ingredient comes from."
No palm oil in sunpat, just peanut oil. |
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This is a ridiculous leap...
All the cheap ones are full of sugar and rubbish anyway.
Meridian... as a start.
Try almond butter... sainsbury do a 100% 1kg tub!
Whole earth do a palm oil free one too. 100% peanuts.
I'm kind of into peanut butter... anyone want to get naked and well...  |
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"Try Yumello peanut butter buy online or Holland & Barrett should have, palm oil free and a few twists to flavouring
On the list now, ta, though the Aldi one is holding 1st place atm...
If they venture north of the river and closer than 6 miles away, I’ll give it a go
See, it's posh round your ends. I bet you have a waitrose too. Not one for at least 5 miles round are way.
Posh wouldn’t go that far but yes there is a Waitrose, bloody expensive "
We're catching you up believe me. Every time a shop closes; what are we gonna get I wonder, a hardware store? A fish mongers? A book shop? Oh look it's another place to have brunch. Great cause we've only got 15 of them to choose from in a half mile radius. |
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"This is a ridiculous leap...
All the cheap ones are full of sugar and rubbish anyway.
Meridian... as a start.
Try almond butter... sainsbury do a 100% 1kg tub!
Whole earth do a palm oil free one too. 100% peanuts.
I'm kind of into peanut butter... anyone want to get naked and well... "
I cannot stand almonds, but I'm pretty sure you'll find someone round these parts to get sticky with. |
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"This is a ridiculous leap...
All the cheap ones are full of sugar and rubbish anyway.
Meridian... as a start.
Try almond butter... sainsbury do a 100% 1kg tub!
Whole earth do a palm oil free one too. 100% peanuts.
I'm kind of into peanut butter... anyone want to get naked and well... "
The aldi one is cheap
And full of nothing but peanuts |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
No experts? "
It's only our desire for unnecessary food and products that drive palm oil production.
Stop eating all processed and 'instant' food, stop using unnecessary washing products, fancy candles and other fancy bollocks that we don't need.
All vegetable oils are PUFA's and toxic to humans anyway, we simply don't need vegetable oil. |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter
*what did
Being back malnutrition and poverty and disease too?
Palm is pretty damn efficient compared to Rap3seed etc and it can actually be farmed responsibly, it just often isn't because of the lack of legislation in the regions where it's grown. People treat it like it's toxic because they're told to on social media and by people like .me. trying to sell them shit at a premium price to use in their comfortable UK lifestyles, but they really should be wiser x
We do eat an awful lot of stuff we really dont need to though don't we, with no need to starve or be malnourished, if we didnt have such a ridiculous choice of food and whatever else is filled with palm oil. I am all about the small sustainable farming though, this global nonsense doesnt wash with me. Still send me the spice boats over though
I watched a documentary about cinnamon (I know right, fucking rock n roll round here) and this guy and his family tended a crop that produced a bundle of 3' long sticks that stooped the bloke as hw carried it on his back. About a barrel in shape.
He went to a dealer who paid him £1 for the lot. One single quid. I ch*ked on my sandwich. Those little £1.50 jars we buy? Would have made 1000s of them. Pay the grower a decent price and I suspect they'll need less land to turn a coin and the wildlife can have a bit of space too.
I'd be happy to pay more too, but someone in the supply chain will pocket that as well no doubt."
We must watch the same sort of programmes. I was watching an old man who climbs a glacier every day to hack at ice to sell to the bars back down in town. They did pay him a good price for it though |
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"I love Sunpat, but don't like the palm oil issue. But find the alternatives aren't as strong in flavour.
However, we have a refill store near use that does home made peanut butter (as well as hummus, and other but butters), and it is seriously delish! More expensive, but is yummy and know where every ingredient comes from.
No palm oil in sunpat, just peanut oil. "
It does. E471 otherwise known as palm oil. It also has unnecessary sugar in it too. |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter
*what did
I've started spreading butter on bread again. Cows are bad too tho right? "
Nope, just another myth pushed about by companies with a vested interest in pushing damaging monoculture on to stupid humans. |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter
*what did
I've started spreading butter on bread again. Cows are bad too tho right?
Nope, just another myth pushed about by companies with a vested interest in pushing damaging monoculture on to stupid humans."
Oh Topsy you're turning me on! |
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"Some brands of peanut butter are made by killing orangutans, apparently, and while I'm not particularly friends with any actual rangas I think causing their death is a bit strong.
Currently I have a jar of Heart and Soul which means well, but it's gloopy and unsatisfying like every other "ethical" brand I've tried.
This leaves me with; stop eating peanut butter or go back to murdering orangutans.
Unless you know a better brand?
Buy some peanuts*. Put in a food processor. Turn it on and wait a bit. You'll soon have peanut butter.
There are a few brands on the market that are just peanuts, most have oils, sugars and other nasties in them.
*other nuts available."
Good shout. Even the so-called healthy brands are processed and full of crap. |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter
*what did
I've started spreading butter on bread again. Cows are bad too tho right?
Nope, just another myth pushed about by companies with a vested interest in pushing damaging monoculture on to stupid humans."
I can promise you I'm not a stupid human. |
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"Does anyone know how to farm another crop to produce the same volumes of oil we require as palm offers?
And can palm not be grown sustainably then?
We did we used to use before palm oil in everything and does everything need so much oil. Bring back butter
*what did
I've started spreading butter on bread again. Cows are bad too tho right?
Nope, just another myth pushed about by companies with a vested interest in pushing damaging monoculture on to stupid humans.
I can promise you I'm not a stupid human. "
I didn't think you were. |
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"And now I fancy a peanut butter and cheese sandwich "
What did you just say? you do what? This sounds revolutionary! Tell me more! Talk dirty to me! What cheese?
I've just brought some Manilife... who suggested this? I owe you a great debt! It's extortionate but so so good. |
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"And now I fancy a peanut butter and cheese sandwich
What did you just say? you do what? This sounds revolutionary! Tell me more! Talk dirty to me! What cheese?
I've just brought some Manilife... who suggested this? I owe you a great debt! It's extortionate but so so good. "
Correction. 9.99 for 1kg from Ocado (other retailers are available) so about that peanut butter fetish party after lockdown?  |
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