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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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This one is for the drummers out there, be you beginner or expert!
What was the first song you learnt and were able to play through fully?
Recently started teaching myself and am oh so close to getting Imagine but am now thinking Yellow by Coldplay would be slightly easier! Finding drum sheet music isn’t easy either because even the same songs look different depending on where you find them  |
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"This one is for the drummers out there, be you beginner or expert!
What was the first song you learnt and were able to play through fully?
Recently started teaching myself and am oh so close to getting Imagine but am now thinking Yellow by Coldplay would be slightly easier! Finding drum sheet music isn’t easy either because even the same songs look different depending on where you find them "
I never really started by trying to learn songs, I just replicated the beats. The most important thing is consistent time keeping, nobody wants a drummer who can play amazing fills but can't keep time.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This one is for the drummers out there, be you beginner or expert!
What was the first song you learnt and were able to play through fully?
Recently started teaching myself and am oh so close to getting Imagine but am now thinking Yellow by Coldplay would be slightly easier! Finding drum sheet music isn’t easy either because even the same songs look different depending on where you find them
I never really started by trying to learn songs, I just replicated the beats. The most important thing is consistent time keeping, nobody wants a drummer who can play amazing fills but can't keep time.
Cal"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Well no one can learn a song and instantly play it. Mine was basket case by Green day"
I totally get that, and it’s taken me a month to get this close but I can only spend about an hour a day practicing so I’m pleased with where I am so far  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Everybody’s changing by Keane but only because it was easy... I don’t even really like Keane... no offence to anyone who’s a big fan "
I hear that. Keane just aren’t my kinda thing |
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"Sing, Sing, Sing (with a swing)... the Gene Krupa drum pattern ... my dad taught me it when i was 13
That’s not easy.
Try Come Together by the Beatles. Nice groove. "
no, it was really hard lol. but it turns out if you can play jazz, all other music is simple by comparison. |
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"Sing, Sing, Sing (with a swing)... the Gene Krupa drum pattern ... my dad taught me it when i was 13
That’s not easy.
Try Come Together by the Beatles. Nice groove.
no, it was really hard lol. but it turns out if you can play jazz, all other music is simple by comparison. "
Jazz is totally tricky. Irregular beats, more fills than anything else. Just Jazz...ugh, not for me |
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"Sing, Sing, Sing (with a swing)... the Gene Krupa drum pattern ... my dad taught me it when i was 13
That’s not easy.
Try Come Together by the Beatles. Nice groove.
no, it was really hard lol. but it turns out if you can play jazz, all other music is simple by comparison.
Jazz is totally tricky. Irregular beats, more fills than anything else. Just Jazz...ugh, not for me"
sorry, but 'irregular beats' made me chuckle  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Newbie here, I struggle patting my head and rubbing my tum, so you can imagine what my playing is like at the moment, but I can just about manage We Will Rock You "
I’d teach you a few beats and strokes |
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no fills drumming ..... and still manages to swing!
each measure on the drums is a different time signature, and each measure on the guitar parts are different time signatures. the drums and guitar play time signatures that are different to each other. no signature is repeated. now that's hard!!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"no fills drumming ..... and still manages to swing!
each measure on the drums is a different time signature, and each measure on the guitar parts are different time signatures. the drums and guitar play time signatures that are different to each other. no signature is repeated. now that's hard!!
Do you actually play?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68v-zi7hSBY"
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"no fills drumming ..... and still manages to swing!
each measure on the drums is a different time signature, and each measure on the guitar parts are different time signatures. the drums and guitar play time signatures that are different to each other. no signature is repeated. now that's hard!!
Do you actually play?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68v-zi7hSBY"
yes, but not quite to the same standard as Zach is playing at in the video. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"no fills drumming ..... and still manages to swing!
each measure on the drums is a different time signature, and each measure on the guitar parts are different time signatures. the drums and guitar play time signatures that are different to each other. no signature is repeated. now that's hard!!
What kit you play and style
Do you actually play?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68v-zi7hSBY
yes, but not quite to the same standard as Zach is playing at in the video. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"no fills drumming ..... and still manages to swing!
each measure on the drums is a different time signature, and each measure on the guitar parts are different time signatures. the drums and guitar play time signatures that are different to each other. no signature is repeated. now that's hard!!
What you play?
What kit you play and style
Do you actually play?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68v-zi7hSBY
yes, but not quite to the same standard as Zach is playing at in the video. "
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AC/DC Back in black though not perfect everytime! It's fun to play. Can play almost of a few songs... Wake me up when September ends - Green Day. Since you've been gone-rainbow. Struggle on the fills mainly and my own personal enemy playing is concentrating on the counting! |
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"AC/DC Back in black though not perfect everytime! It's fun to play. Can play almost of a few songs... Wake me up when September ends - Green Day. Since you've been gone-rainbow. Struggle on the fills mainly and my own personal enemy playing is concentrating on the counting! "
The trick is to "feel" the count rather than count it. Although counting out loud can be very useful when you're learning.
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"What kit you play and style"
i have several. my fave is a 1950 Gretsch Broadkaster Bop 4 piece toms in gold sparkle and a 1950 Slingerland Radio King snare. it was my uncles. i play whatever the person paying me wants ... then i play bop |
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"What kit you play and style
i have several. my fave is a 1950 Gretsch Broadkaster Bop 4 piece toms in gold sparkle and a 1950 Slingerland Radio King snare. it was my uncles. i play whatever the person paying me wants ... then i play bop "
I had a 1970s Ludwig Black Beauty. I sold it for more than it would have cost new. Lol. |
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By *iggy5Man
over a year ago
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I've played the drums for thirty years now. Just for fun. As for first song...
...my teacher rocked the hammond organ whilst I drummed along.
First song, was Ticket to Ride/Beatles and then it was a bit of Phil Collins...hence the drum solo! |
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"I've played the drums for thirty years now. Just for fun. As for first song...
...my teacher rocked the hammond organ whilst I drummed along.
First song, was Ticket to Ride/Beatles and then it was a bit of Phil Collins...hence the drum solo!"
Phil Collins played some great time signatures ... i can't decide what's happening exactly throughout 'turn it on again'  |
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Think my first song was About A Girl - Nirvana or might have been The Bends - Radiohead. Sort of stuff my school band were playing.
Kit has been a Tama Artstar ES for the past 25 years, never selling. Unfortunately not able to play it at the moment so on a e-drum set, nowhere near the same but scratches the itch! |
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"AC/DC Back in black though not perfect everytime! It's fun to play. Can play almost of a few songs... Wake me up when September ends - Green Day. Since you've been gone-rainbow. Struggle on the fills mainly and my own personal enemy playing is concentrating on the counting!
The trick is to "feel" the count rather than count it. Although counting out loud can be very useful when you're learning.
Cal"
True...with songs i really know or practiced a lot you can feel it, but I think the counting thing is when you're reading something new so you can work out the feel/rhythm quicker, reading and understanding the notation in the grooves is mostly fine it's counting the fills and practicing enough to also gain the muscle memory! |
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"AC/DC Back in black though not perfect everytime! It's fun to play. Can play almost of a few songs... Wake me up when September ends - Green Day. Since you've been gone-rainbow. Struggle on the fills mainly and my own personal enemy playing is concentrating on the counting!
The trick is to "feel" the count rather than count it. Although counting out loud can be very useful when you're learning.
Cal
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True...with songs i really know or practiced a lot you can feel it, but I think the counting thing is when you're reading something new so you can work out the feel/rhythm quicker, reading and understanding the notation in the grooves is mostly fine it's counting the fills and practicing enough to also gain the muscle memory! "
Reading is obviously a completely different thing to just playing, and even though I can read, I have never needed to do so for any gig I've played.
It is never a bad thing to count but when it becomes a subconscious thing, it frees the mind up to be more creative.
Also as Nettie said, drumless tracks are great for practice. There is a website called karaoke-versions that has custom tracks which allow you to choose the instruments you want and casts a quid or so per track... you can also have a full version & a drumless version from the one purchase.
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my timing improved massively when i started going along to the local samba group. having to play in a percussion orchestra forces your ears open so you quickly find that you hear every hit from every player simultaneously. it's brilliant fun too |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If you ever want your mind blown watch some videos of the breakdown of the composition of meshuggahs songs.
It’ll make you question everything you know as a musician/drummer
Even figuring out where the beat of 1 is on their songs can be tricky |
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"AC/DC Back in black though not perfect everytime! It's fun to play. Can play almost of a few songs... Wake me up when September ends - Green Day. Since you've been gone-rainbow. Struggle on the fills mainly and my own personal enemy playing is concentrating on the counting!
The trick is to "feel" the count rather than count it. Although counting out loud can be very useful when you're learning.
Cal
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True...with songs i really know or practiced a lot you can feel it, but I think the counting thing is when you're reading something new so you can work out the feel/rhythm quicker, reading and understanding the notation in the grooves is mostly fine it's counting the fills and practicing enough to also gain the muscle memory!
Reading is obviously a completely different thing to just playing, and even though I can read, I have never needed to do so for any gig I've played.
It is never a bad thing to count but when it becomes a subconscious thing, it frees the mind up to be more creative.
Also as Nettie said, drumless tracks are great for practice. There is a website called karaoke-versions that has custom tracks which allow you to choose the instruments you want and casts a quid or so per track... you can also have a full version & a drumless version from the one purchase.
Cal"
But for any gig you've played i'm guessing you already know and have practiced the songs quite a lot so the counting does become subconscious or at least not an issue because you know it so well?
I started learning about 3yrs ago, it was something I wanted to try in my early 20's but couldn't...Not quite midlife crisis spurred me on to try but do regret not starting earlier in life as also now finding enough time to practice makes my progression rather steady...I love it all the same! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"AC/DC Back in black though not perfect everytime! It's fun to play. Can play almost of a few songs... Wake me up when September ends - Green Day. Since you've been gone-rainbow. Struggle on the fills mainly and my own personal enemy playing is concentrating on the counting!
The trick is to "feel" the count rather than count it. Although counting out loud can be very useful when you're learning.
Cal
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True...with songs i really know or practiced a lot you can feel it, but I think the counting thing is when you're reading something new so you can work out the feel/rhythm quicker, reading and understanding the notation in the grooves is mostly fine it's counting the fills and practicing enough to also gain the muscle memory!
Reading is obviously a completely different thing to just playing, and even though I can read, I have never needed to do so for any gig I've played.
It is never a bad thing to count but when it becomes a subconscious thing, it frees the mind up to be more creative.
Also as Nettie said, drumless tracks are great for practice. There is a website called karaoke-versions that has custom tracks which allow you to choose the instruments you want and casts a quid or so per track... you can also have a full version & a drumless version from the one purchase.
Cal
But for any gig you've played i'm guessing you already know and have practiced the songs quite a lot so the counting does become subconscious or at least not an issue because you know it so well?
I started learning about 3yrs ago, it was something I wanted to try in my early 20's but couldn't...Not quite midlife crisis spurred me on to try but do regret not starting earlier in life as also now finding enough time to practice makes my progression rather steady...I love it all the same!"
That’s similar for myself, I’ve always wanted to be able to play the drums but life got in the way for a long time (that’s my excuse anyway) but I’ve always wanted to give it a go and I’m so glad I’ve started!
It’s the drums I always listen for in songs and have always been drawn to that sound, and now I’m learning to play I’m hearing sounds in songs I’d never heard before |
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"AC/DC Back in black though not perfect everytime! It's fun to play. Can play almost of a few songs... Wake me up when September ends - Green Day. Since you've been gone-rainbow. Struggle on the fills mainly and my own personal enemy playing is concentrating on the counting!
The trick is to "feel" the count rather than count it. Although counting out loud can be very useful when you're learning.
Cal
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True...with songs i really know or practiced a lot you can feel it, but I think the counting thing is when you're reading something new so you can work out the feel/rhythm quicker, reading and understanding the notation in the grooves is mostly fine it's counting the fills and practicing enough to also gain the muscle memory!
Reading is obviously a completely different thing to just playing, and even though I can read, I have never needed to do so for any gig I've played.
It is never a bad thing to count but when it becomes a subconscious thing, it frees the mind up to be more creative.
Also as Nettie said, drumless tracks are great for practice. There is a website called karaoke-versions that has custom tracks which allow you to choose the instruments you want and casts a quid or so per track... you can also have a full version & a drumless version from the one purchase.
Cal
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But for any gig you've played i'm guessing you already know and have practiced the songs quite a lot so the counting does become subconscious or at least not an issue because you know it so well?
I started learning about 3yrs ago, it was something I wanted to try in my early 20's but couldn't...Not quite midlife crisis spurred me on to try but do regret not starting earlier in life as also now finding enough time to practice makes my progression rather steady...I love it all the same!"
On the contrary, I have depped for lots of bands some with just a few hours notice. I can "jam" pretty effectively and get bye on basic cheat notes.
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