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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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If you could have a vaccination so that you could never lie again in your life, then would you?
If not then why do we get so upset when others lie? Why is it such a big deal to us that we can trust others and rely on them being truthful? Are some fibs ok even among friends and lovers and others not ok, and if so where does one draw the line and who draws it?
Let me know what you think my lovelies 
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm intolerant of liars and bull abuse and narcissists..
I dont need a pill .. others may need 2..1 for each ear if they under estimate me"
You've never ever lied?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I always try to be honest and I appreciate the same in return. I have never saw the point in lying as it only ever brings problems in the end. The small lies turn to big lies, so I'd rather not have the trouble  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you could have a vaccination so that you could never lie again in your life, then would you?
If not then why do we get so upset when others lie? Why is it such a big deal to us that we can trust others and rely on them being truthful? Are some fibs ok even among friends and lovers and others not ok, and if so where does one draw the line and who draws it?
Let me know what you think my lovelies
.me. "
What if it was only 66% effective? So we told the truth sometimes and lied the others? A bit like what happens now. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No I think its important to hide some truths but I'm interested to see what people will say. This is the most interesting post in a while "
Me2, I'd like to know what others think. I agree with you, for example does my bum look big, tell me I'm pretty etc  |
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"I always try to be honest and I appreciate the same in return. I have never saw the point in lying as it only ever brings problems in the end. The small lies turn to big lies, so I'd rather not have the trouble "
Agree |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If you could have a vaccination so that you could never lie again in your life, then would you?
If not then why do we get so upset when others lie? Why is it such a big deal to us that we can trust others and rely on them being truthful? Are some fibs ok even among friends and lovers and others not ok, and if so where does one draw the line and who draws it?
Let me know what you think my lovelies
.me.
What if it was only 66% effective? So we told the truth sometimes and lied the others? A bit like what happens now. "
I like that! But would you want to be made to be more truthful than you are currently? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What if it was only 66% effective? So we told the truth sometimes and lied the others? A bit like what happens now.
I like that! But would you want to be made to be more truthful than you are currently? "
Not really. I like the option to choose what to say when I want to. If I'm comfortable with the lie I'm telling I lie. If it doesn't sit well with me, I don't do it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you could have a vaccination so that you could never lie again in your life, then would you?
If not then why do we get so upset when others lie? Why is it such a big deal to us that we can trust others and rely on them being truthful? Are some fibs ok even among friends and lovers and others not ok, and if so where does one draw the line and who draws it?
Let me know what you think my lovelies
.me. "
Good question.
Where do you draw the line?
If I can't lie does that mean I can't hide my fab life from the vanilla world? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wasnt there a film on this...Jim Carey?
"Does my bum look big in this"?
Yes dear...you have a big bum...it doesnt matter what you wear. It looks big because it is. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wasnt there a film on this...Jim Carey?
"Does my bum look big in this"?
Yes dear...you have a big bum...it doesnt matter what you wear. It looks big because it is."
It was about a liar and the liar struggled as he always said the truth.
I think it was called 'The Man Who Always Told The Truth' |
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I wouldn't take it of course not, I'd have to explain to my kids why I hate their father so much. There's some things the people I love don't need to know.
There are lines of course there are, to me it depends on if you're protecting yourself or the other person. Though I appreciate there's a whole lot of grey in that area. |
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Not a chance.
Imagine being in charge of the organisation of a surprise party.
Or even worse, a room full of 5 year olds asking when santa will be coming.
I couldn't deal with being unable to tell magical little lies in that way.
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"Think of all the things that wouldn't 'exist' if no one was able to lie. The first thing I thought of was how often we lie to our children. "
That's very true.
We tell them honesty is the best policy but in many cases telling the truth will land you in a world of grief. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"What if it was only 66% effective? So we told the truth sometimes and lied the others? A bit like what happens now.
I like that! But would you want to be made to be more truthful than you are currently?
Not really. I like the option to choose what to say when I want to. If I'm comfortable with the lie I'm telling I lie. If it doesn't sit well with me, I don't do it. "
Makes sense to me |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If you could have a vaccination so that you could never lie again in your life, then would you?
If not then why do we get so upset when others lie? Why is it such a big deal to us that we can trust others and rely on them being truthful? Are some fibs ok even among friends and lovers and others not ok, and if so where does one draw the line and who draws it?
Let me know what you think my lovelies
.me.
Good question.
Where do you draw the line?
If I can't lie does that mean I can't hide my fab life from the vanilla world? "
No lies whatsoever!  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Wasnt there a film on this...Jim Carey?
"Does my bum look big in this"?
Yes dear...you have a big bum...it doesnt matter what you wear. It looks big because it is."
Hahaha, I've not seen it, but that's just it, I'd be so sarcastic and rude, that's just the way I think and I need to temper it down before I let it out to the real world to avoid offending |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I wouldn't take it of course not, I'd have to explain to my kids why I hate their father so much. There's some things the people I love don't need to know.
There are lines of course there are, to me it depends on if you're protecting yourself or the other person. Though I appreciate there's a whole lot of grey in that area. "
If you're protecting a person you can also sometimes be harming another? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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No, lying doesn't come easily to me as I'm autistic so there'd be little point to it. An 'in good conscience' pill wouldn't go amiss for some to prevent harmful self-serving untruths. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Good to see you back again
I don't need to lie and I appreciate it when people have the balls not to lie to me, I am an adult and can handle the truth of other peoples opinions of me"
Who's back? 
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Think of all the things that wouldn't 'exist' if no one was able to lie. The first thing I thought of was how often we lie to our children. "
I have to make up so many lies to my girl! Father Christmas went out the window years ago  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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No, if only just because Id like to be able to exercise free choice still. I don't want to lie, but there may come a time when I needed to and if I couldn't then maybe the truth would be worse than a lie. I cant think of a reason off the top of my head, but Im sure there would be one. |
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"I wouldn't take it of course not, I'd have to explain to my kids why I hate their father so much. There's some things the people I love don't need to know.
There are lines of course there are, to me it depends on if you're protecting yourself or the other person. Though I appreciate there's a whole lot of grey in that area.
If you're protecting a person you can also sometimes be harming another?"
Yes you can, I know not telling my boys what actually happened between me and their father will protect them. And yeah it bloody hurts a lot sometimes but to me it's a price I'm willing to pay.
When I was in hospital last year I didn't tell my mother. It was lockdown she lives by herself so wouldn't have support. So I only told her I nearly snuffed it after I was given the all clear. She was flipping annoyed as initially, but she then said I did the best for her.
I'm not sure I'd want to burden people with my problems just because I couldn't lie or keep things from them.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Not a chance.
Imagine being in charge of the organisation of a surprise party.
Or even worse, a room full of 5 year olds asking when santa will be coming.
I couldn't deal with being unable to tell magical little lies in that way.
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Sometimes even big ones can help, say if someone is seriously ill or dying for example, you'd tell them they look well or beautiful and try to hide the worry from your face, for their sake and maybe yours too. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"We'd like to think that no immunisation required here, but am sure others would argue differently."
I think an action or statement can often be a truth to one half and a lie to the other, for sure. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What would happen about Santa and the tooth fairy?
Lies are needed to be told sometimes. There are valid reasons when lying is better than the truth."
So no pill for you! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"No, lying doesn't come easily to me as I'm autistic so there'd be little point to it. An 'in good conscience' pill wouldn't go amiss for some to prevent harmful self-serving untruths."
Wouldn't their conscience be clear if they believed their own lies? Or would they be stopped from lying in the first instance? I think this might help for people who view themselves negatively or have poor self image though, to see the truth that they're actually alright and a valued part of the machine of humanity |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"No, if only just because Id like to be able to exercise free choice still. I don't want to lie, but there may come a time when I needed to and if I couldn't then maybe the truth would be worse than a lie. I cant think of a reason off the top of my head, but Im sure there would be one. "
Say, if someone was pointing a gun at me and I had to use the boner in my pants to look like a gun to escape, that sort of thing? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I wouldn't take it of course not, I'd have to explain to my kids why I hate their father so much. There's some things the people I love don't need to know.
There are lines of course there are, to me it depends on if you're protecting yourself or the other person. Though I appreciate there's a whole lot of grey in that area.
If you're protecting a person you can also sometimes be harming another?
Yes you can, I know not telling my boys what actually happened between me and their father will protect them. And yeah it bloody hurts a lot sometimes but to me it's a price I'm willing to pay.
When I was in hospital last year I didn't tell my mother. It was lockdown she lives by herself so wouldn't have support. So I only told her I nearly snuffed it after I was given the all clear. She was flipping annoyed as initially, but she then said I did the best for her.
I'm not sure I'd want to burden people with my problems just because I couldn't lie or keep things from them.
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Is this why to never tell me your love me? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Nope. Every body lies. Anyone who says different is a liar. There are sometimes good reasons to lie. "
This was agree with and it's sometimes so transparent |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"On the whole I hate liars and try not to lie to others. However, I cant sit here and say I never lie because I do if I feel I need to or that the truth will damage with others.
See? That is honesty right there "
Maybe it's a double bluff |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On the whole I hate liars and try not to lie to others. However, I cant sit here and say I never lie because I do if I feel I need to or that the truth will damage with others.
See? That is honesty right there
It really wasn't haha
Maybe it's a double bluff"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On the whole I hate liars and try not to lie to others. However, I cant sit here and say I never lie because I do if I feel I need to or that the truth will damage with others.
See? That is honesty right there
Maybe it's a double bluff"
Stupid thumbs.... it really wasn't |
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"Not a chance.
Imagine being in charge of the organisation of a surprise party.
Or even worse, a room full of 5 year olds asking when santa will be coming.
I couldn't deal with being unable to tell magical little lies in that way.
Sometimes even big ones can help, say if someone is seriously ill or dying for example, you'd tell them they look well or beautiful and try to hide the worry from your face, for their sake and maybe yours too."
I did this with my sons mum,
Bastard "C" ate her down to the bone and right until the very end I told her she looked amazingly well and very fresh faced and full of life. The biggest, worst and most horrendous lies I've ever told anyone in my whole life! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"On the whole I hate liars and try not to lie to others. However, I cant sit here and say I never lie because I do if I feel I need to or that the truth will damage with others.
See? That is honesty right there
It really wasn't haha
Maybe it's a double bluff"
I know, you're alright in my book, but often when people go to great lengths to plant an apple seed in your thoughts then you can find a pear tree growing up instead |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Whose making this vaccine
I have two balls full of it
Not many getting vaccinated then "
My truth milkshake brings all the boys and girls to the yard!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Nope, it's easier to tell people in pain that it's going to get better rather than telling them my hope is crushed for them and I have no idea if it's going to be like it was before... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Not a chance.
Imagine being in charge of the organisation of a surprise party.
Or even worse, a room full of 5 year olds asking when santa will be coming.
I couldn't deal with being unable to tell magical little lies in that way.
Sometimes even big ones can help, say if someone is seriously ill or dying for example, you'd tell them they look well or beautiful and try to hide the worry from your face, for their sake and maybe yours too.
I did this with my sons mum,
Bastard "C" ate her down to the bone and right until the very end I told her she looked amazingly well and very fresh faced and full of life. The biggest, worst and most horrendous lies I've ever told anyone in my whole life! "
Same with my mum, right up to the end when she was a bag of bones with white hair |
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"Not a chance.
Imagine being in charge of the organisation of a surprise party.
Or even worse, a room full of 5 year olds asking when santa will be coming.
I couldn't deal with being unable to tell magical little lies in that way.
Sometimes even big ones can help, say if someone is seriously ill or dying for example, you'd tell them they look well or beautiful and try to hide the worry from your face, for their sake and maybe yours too.
I did this with my sons mum,
Bastard "C" ate her down to the bone and right until the very end I told her she looked amazingly well and very fresh faced and full of life. The biggest, worst and most horrendous lies I've ever told anyone in my whole life! "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Nope, it's easier to tell people in pain that it's going to get better rather than telling them my hope is crushed for them and I have no idea if it's going to be like it was before..."
With no lies what the fuck would advertising look like? "Here's the new x-phone 99 with fifty lense camera you don't need, new screen 3mm larger than the previous model for no apparent reason at all and you're gonna waste your time on it when you could be with your loved ones!" |
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If I told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, not even with my natural charm would I be able to sell another house again, and it was no different in the motor trade when we told the punters that the little sticker on the speedometer not guaranteeing the milage, was there to comply with Trades descriptions act, when we knew damn well that the thing had been clocked, same when we put on the invoice, sold as seen, and told the punters that it was legal jargon, and that were agreeing they had actually seen the car that they were buying, that of course was online buying was invented.
Lies are a fact of life, and they ain't gonna go away. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I love the way some say that they hate liars yet when someone like me says something they hate it. I am starting to see light lies can be good.but it has taken years to stop being so honest"
Well I'm glad you're still flexible of mind and able to change and grow. You're doing something a lot of folk find impossible x |
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"Nope, it's easier to tell people in pain that it's going to get better rather than telling them my hope is crushed for them and I have no idea if it's going to be like it was before...
With no lies what the fuck would advertising look like? "Here's the new x-phone 99 with fifty lense camera you don't need, new screen 3mm larger than the previous model for no apparent reason at all and you're gonna waste your time on it when you could be with your loved ones!" "
Might be different for advertising. Would a truth pill work if the seller genuinely believes their product would improve your life even if it doesn't? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If I told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, not even with my natural charm would I be able to sell another house again, and it was no different in the motor trade when we told the punters that the little sticker on the speedometer not guaranteeing the milage, was there to comply with Trades descriptions act, when we knew damn well that the thing had been clocked, same when we put on the invoice, sold as seen, and told the punters that it was legal jargon, and that were agreeing they had actually seen the car that they were buying, that of course was online buying was invented.
Lies are a fact of life, and they ain't gonna go away. "
I think often a lie can be a negotiation between two people who don't really want to deal with each other. I'm sure your punters expected your lies and told you they had less cash in their budget than they did in reality, right? |
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By *eliWoman
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I wouldn't get the vaccine because for the most part I'm fairly truthful but I don't want to lose the ability to lie in case I choose/need to. I've fibbed (let's go with that, it sounds nice and not that bad) before but it's not something I make a habit of doing.
Some lies wouldn't be ok with me but they are a bit personal and I don't have the time or desire to go into those and why. I do know people lie and I understand accept that for the most part. I want to be able to trust folk on the whole because if I don't I wouldn't find them attractive, I'm not too sure why that is. I guess because it would make me question how honest they are overall, if they are honest in how they view me etc.
What a load of waffle. |
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"Nope, it's easier to tell people in pain that it's going to get better rather than telling them my hope is crushed for them and I have no idea if it's going to be like it was before...
With no lies what the fuck would advertising look like? "Here's the new x-phone 99 with fifty lense camera you don't need, new screen 3mm larger than the previous model for no apparent reason at all and you're gonna waste your time on it when you could be with your loved ones!"
Might be different for advertising. Would a truth pill work if the seller genuinely believes their product would improve your life even if it doesn't?"
Everything has positives, if you choose to you can always believe in a product, but on balance they're not always that great. |
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"I wouldn't get the vaccine because for the most part I'm fairly truthful but I don't want to lose the ability to lie in case I choose/need to. I've fibbed (let's go with that, it sounds nice and not that bad) before but it's not something I make a habit of doing.
Some lies wouldn't be ok with me but they are a bit personal and I don't have the time or desire to go into those and why. I do know people lie and I understand accept that for the most part. I want to be able to trust folk on the whole because if I don't I wouldn't find them attractive, I'm not too sure why that is. I guess because it would make me question how honest they are overall, if they are honest in how they view me etc.
What a load of waffle."
You LIED about the face kissing thingy  |
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By *eliWoman
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"I wouldn't get the vaccine because for the most part I'm fairly truthful but I don't want to lose the ability to lie in case I choose/need to. I've fibbed (let's go with that, it sounds nice and not that bad) before but it's not something I make a habit of doing.
Some lies wouldn't be ok with me but they are a bit personal and I don't have the time or desire to go into those and why. I do know people lie and I understand accept that for the most part. I want to be able to trust folk on the whole because if I don't I wouldn't find them attractive, I'm not too sure why that is. I guess because it would make me question how honest they are overall, if they are honest in how they view me etc.
What a load of waffle.
You LIED about the face kissing thingy "
Fibbed. F-i-b-b-e-d. |
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"I wouldn't get the vaccine because for the most part I'm fairly truthful but I don't want to lose the ability to lie in case I choose/need to. I've fibbed (let's go with that, it sounds nice and not that bad) before but it's not something I make a habit of doing.
Some lies wouldn't be ok with me but they are a bit personal and I don't have the time or desire to go into those and why. I do know people lie and I understand accept that for the most part. I want to be able to trust folk on the whole because if I don't I wouldn't find them attractive, I'm not too sure why that is. I guess because it would make me question how honest they are overall, if they are honest in how they view me etc.
What a load of waffle."
I think you might have fibbed about scratching my teeth earlier as you wouldnt scratch my scratchies last year |
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"I wouldn't get the vaccine because for the most part I'm fairly truthful but I don't want to lose the ability to lie in case I choose/need to. I've fibbed (let's go with that, it sounds nice and not that bad) before but it's not something I make a habit of doing.
Some lies wouldn't be ok with me but they are a bit personal and I don't have the time or desire to go into those and why. I do know people lie and I understand accept that for the most part. I want to be able to trust folk on the whole because if I don't I wouldn't find them attractive, I'm not too sure why that is. I guess because it would make me question how honest they are overall, if they are honest in how they view me etc.
What a load of waffle.
You LIED about the face kissing thingy
Fibbed. F-i-b-b-e-d. "
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By *eliWoman
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What a load of waffle.
I think you might have fibbed about scratching my teeth earlier as you wouldnt scratch my scratchies last year "
Nah, that was truthful. I had an epiphany about the bliss to be found in scratching an itch. Besides I'm a generous soul and you have a beautiful one so I will scratch your itchy teeth. |
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"I wouldn't take it of course not, I'd have to explain to my kids why I hate their father so much. There's some things the people I love don't need to know.
There are lines of course there are, to me it depends on if you're protecting yourself or the other person. Though I appreciate there's a whole lot of grey in that area.
If you're protecting a person you can also sometimes be harming another?
Yes you can, I know not telling my boys what actually happened between me and their father will protect them. And yeah it bloody hurts a lot sometimes but to me it's a price I'm willing to pay.
When I was in hospital last year I didn't tell my mother. It was lockdown she lives by herself so wouldn't have support. So I only told her I nearly snuffed it after I was given the all clear. She was flipping annoyed as initially, but she then said I did the best for her.
I'm not sure I'd want to burden people with my problems just because I couldn't lie or keep things from them.
Is this why to never tell me your love me? "
Of course nobody would want the burden of my love |
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What a load of waffle.
I think you might have fibbed about scratching my teeth earlier as you wouldnt scratch my scratchies last year
Nah, that was truthful. I had an epiphany about the bliss to be found in scratching an itch. Besides I'm a generous soul and you have a beautiful one so I will scratch your itchy teeth. "
Ahh souls made in heaven |
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"I wouldn't take it of course not, I'd have to explain to my kids why I hate their father so much. There's some things the people I love don't need to know.
There are lines of course there are, to me it depends on if you're protecting yourself or the other person. Though I appreciate there's a whole lot of grey in that area.
If you're protecting a person you can also sometimes be harming another?
Yes you can, I know not telling my boys what actually happened between me and their father will protect them. And yeah it bloody hurts a lot sometimes but to me it's a price I'm willing to pay.
When I was in hospital last year I didn't tell my mother. It was lockdown she lives by herself so wouldn't have support. So I only told her I nearly snuffed it after I was given the all clear. She was flipping annoyed as initially, but she then said I did the best for her.
I'm not sure I'd want to burden people with my problems just because I couldn't lie or keep things from them.
Is this why to never tell me your love me?
Of course nobody would want the burden of my love "
Can we just do the frantic sex then? |
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You got it in one, we actually say that buyers are liers. They make our that they are scrapping every last penny together for the deposit, so I close the deal as tight as I dare, and then within a matter of months there's a £25k conservatory on the place.
I take that we might be in the same game. |
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I'd not take it, it's a choice between which will hurt a person most, truth or lie, both have the power to hurt and destroy.
I think lying for material gain is wrong just as knowing the truth will cause nothing other than pain is wrong.
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"You got it in one, we actually say that buyers are liers. They make our that they are scrapping every last penny together for the deposit, so I close the deal as tight as I dare, and then within a matter of months there's a £25k conservatory on the place.
I take that we might be in the same game. "
I'm in s&m in a way but not direct. My shiz is all long term repeat relationships with both people buying and selling the junk I deal in |
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"I'd not take it, it's a choice between which will hurt a person most, truth or lie, both have the power to hurt and destroy.
I think lying for material gain is wrong just as knowing the truth will cause nothing other than pain is wrong.
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Truth isn't always light and dreamy, aye x |
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If that meant everybody is comfortable with the truth, there's no harm in getting such vaccine. It would be a transparent and honest world. But are we there yet? Will we ever? I dont think so  |
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"If that meant everybody is comfortable with the truth, there's no harm in getting such vaccine. It would be a transparent and honest world. But are we there yet? Will we ever? I dont think so "
You can't compete when there's truth and fact. Stuff just IS and there's no persuasion or politics. I don't think folk would like that - kinda takes away our purpose to advance and fuck up the world |
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"So would you take it OP?
What lies do you think are ok and which ones aren't? "
I said to Dorriss, no I wouldn't. I like challenge and variety and not knowing the truth. I like having faith in people.
I think lies mean different things to the different people involved in the lie. Any lie can be justified simply because the lie actually happened so there must be a reason, but not everyone will be comfortable or accept that justification. It's a matter of opinion and we're all unique in that respect.
I don't think many people are truly bad or intend to be bad, however much they lie. And people being too truthful can equally be bad with it. But that's just my view, not worth any more than any other |
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I was honestly expecting more replies from folk going on about their lying ex's etc and saying the obvious about how lies can ruin a life etc. It's been a pleasant surprise that people have answered the OP as it was posed and actually talked about themselves on the whole and how important the ability to lie is or is not to them rather than what they think about other people. I'm quite impressed with you all!  |
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I think it depends on the reason and scale of the lie.
Do I want to keep telling my kids lies about Santa, to make Christmas magical for them... yes.
Do I think it's right for people to lie to be manipulate or get things from others they wouldn't otherwise. No.
I wouldn't take the pill, as although I'm often brutally honest, the occasional lie is the right thing to do. |
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"I think it depends on the reason and scale of the lie.
Do I want to keep telling my kids lies about Santa, to make Christmas magical for them... yes.
Do I think it's right for people to lie to be manipulate or get things from others they wouldn't otherwise. No.
I wouldn't take the pill, as although I'm often brutally honest, the occasional lie is the right thing to do. "
What is a lie? If it's just something untruthful then who gets to decide what the truth actually is? Is religious belief a lie for example? |
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"Do white lies count.. ?
Do they, you tell me? If they didn't would you take the pill?
Ok does this include being compelled to speak my mind? If not I can vow of silence my way out lol"
Your mind is your mind, you can decide what to say, just not allowed to lie |
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I've done that as well. Car boots, insurance salvage etc etc. Funny enough in another forum the subject of Loot Newspapers came up. Obviously it mentioned the back page ads for those looking for alternative relationships, but I remarked that it was through The Manchester loot I actually got started in this scene, although at first I genuinely bought it to see what could be bought and turned over for a profit.
I've just told in a forum about Men In Black, where I am currently living a lie. The thread is all to do with Men in Black, but I've mentioned that my leather jeans, leather shirt, and waistcoat, and other party clothes, are all in a box in the boot of the car, alongside my tool box, for when I visit a very, very special lady friend who stays safe during lockdown. She sends me a text message asking me if I can possibly come and fix a plumbing leak just in case I get stopped by the police. I then change on her driveway before going in because, it would take a pretty understanding policeman to believe that I am dealing with a plumbing issue dressed up in black leathers. |
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"I've done that as well. Car boots, insurance salvage etc etc. Funny enough in another forum the subject of Loot Newspapers came up. Obviously it mentioned the back page ads for those looking for alternative relationships, but I remarked that it was through The Manchester loot I actually got started in this scene, although at first I genuinely bought it to see what could be bought and turned over for a profit.
I've just told in a forum about Men In Black, where I am currently living a lie. The thread is all to do with Men in Black, but I've mentioned that my leather jeans, leather shirt, and waistcoat, and other party clothes, are all in a box in the boot of the car, alongside my tool box, for when I visit a very, very special lady friend who stays safe during lockdown. She sends me a text message asking me if I can possibly come and fix a plumbing leak just in case I get stopped by the police. I then change on her driveway before going in because, it would take a pretty understanding policeman to believe that I am dealing with a plumbing issue dressed up in black leathers. "
Lol I don't ACTUALLY deal in junk fella. I work in the chemical industry, supplying cosmetic companies with speciality actives and shiz
I'm not sure that some fabbers would agree with your covid stance though |
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I know of someone whom i have lied to and paid the consequences. She is the only person i have ever met that doesnt lie. Not even little white lies not even to protect the innocent type lie. Its black and white no grey. I have often wondered how that must feel. I dont believe myself to be a dishonest person but sometimes a lie is required to prevent hurting another party? So maybe i am. Or maybe truth is the correct way no matter. I am trying though !
Interesting thread to see. |
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"I know of someone whom i have lied to and paid the consequences. She is the only person i have ever met that doesnt lie. Not even little white lies not even to protect the innocent type lie. Its black and white no grey. I have often wondered how that must feel. I dont believe myself to be a dishonest person but sometimes a lie is required to prevent hurting another party? So maybe i am. Or maybe truth is the correct way no matter. I am trying though !
Interesting thread to see. "
I knew someone a bit like that. Not at all innocent but just genuinely honest in a beautiful way without ever being unkind or inconsiderate - a very rare thing and the love of my life! |
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No way mate! I've got a child and I tell her when the icecream man plays music he has run out of icecream and that the park closes on days I really can't be bothered going to the park. And I would have to tell her Santa isn't real!  I'll pass thanks. |
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"No way mate! I've got a child and I tell her when the icecream man plays music he has run out of icecream and that the park closes on days I really can't be bothered going to the park. And I would have to tell her Santa isn't real! I'll pass thanks. "
Thanks for the ice-cream van tip my lovely! |
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"No way mate! I've got a child and I tell her when the icecream man plays music he has run out of icecream and that the park closes on days I really can't be bothered going to the park. And I would have to tell her Santa isn't real! I'll pass thanks. "
But thats true. When the ice cream man plays the tune they have run out. Right ? |
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I doubt that they would agree, and I would never condone casual meets with strangers at this moment in time, however this lady is particularly special, and important to me, to the extent that a couples profile may be getting uploaded when it becomes safe again. |
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No, I wouldnt take it.
I dont lie about big stuff, but there are occasions where telling the truth would being pain to poeple. I think I have integrity, does that count? |
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"I think it depends on the reason and scale of the lie.
Do I want to keep telling my kids lies about Santa, to make Christmas magical for them... yes.
Do I think it's right for people to lie to be manipulate or get things from others they wouldn't otherwise. No.
I wouldn't take the pill, as although I'm often brutally honest, the occasional lie is the right thing to do.
What is a lie? If it's just something untruthful then who gets to decide what the truth actually is? Is religious belief a lie for example?"
If you believe it, it is not a lie.
It might be an untruth, but that is different.
I lie is a known untruth. |
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"I think it depends on the reason and scale of the lie.
Do I want to keep telling my kids lies about Santa, to make Christmas magical for them... yes.
Do I think it's right for people to lie to be manipulate or get things from others they wouldn't otherwise. No.
I wouldn't take the pill, as although I'm often brutally honest, the occasional lie is the right thing to do.
What is a lie? If it's just something untruthful then who gets to decide what the truth actually is? Is religious belief a lie for example?
If you believe it, it is not a lie.
It might be an untruth, but that is different.
I lie is a known untruth. "
Oooooh, I like that! |
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"No thanks. Sometimes discretion is better than total honesty.
Like when your asked...
Does my bumper look big in this "
Does my bum look big in my arse pic then? |
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"No, I wouldnt take it.
I dont lie about big stuff, but there are occasions where telling the truth would being pain to poeple. I think I have integrity, does that count?"
I'm the same. Does it count? - you tell me lol I don't make the rules? x |
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