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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems "Is that the numbers of people actually practicing the religion or just identifying as? As lots say they are such and such, both never really go to church or anything. I am agnostic myself, so there may be a higher being , may not be. Can’t prove either way. Does it matter to me? Not really! I much prefer the oriental religions that are more philosophical, I’d rather much believe in the ocean and the stars and the wind. Than a cruel god that judges you. Just saying.. | |||
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"It's good that they all have something to believe in and follow. It's just a pitty that neither of them have any truth or scientific facts about them" If it brings comfort , i guess. It just becomes very annoying when it becomes a domination game, or a finger pointing one judging others through religion. If you get what I’m saying... I’ve witness the worst from people who went to church every Sunday....  | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems
Is that the numbers of people actually practicing the religion or just identifying as?
As lots say they are such and such, both never really go to church or anything.
I am agnostic myself, so there may be a higher being , may not be. Can’t prove either way. Does it matter to me? Not really!
I much prefer the oriental religions that are more philosophical, I’d rather much believe in the ocean and the stars and the wind. Than a cruel god that judges you. Just saying.."I am not sure. I think that it is identified as both there. | |||
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"If you look at the number who actively practice a religion, as opposed to just having it recorded on some paperwork, then the numbers would be vastly different. " ^^ this | |||
"If you look at the number who actively practice a religion, as opposed to just having it recorded on some paperwork, then the numbers would be vastly different. " Indeed. Both of us were christened so we'll be recorded as Christians probably but we aren't. Neither of us made the decision to be christened. | |||
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"If you look at the number who actively practice a religion, as opposed to just having it recorded on some paperwork, then the numbers would be vastly different. " Maybe, but there are nations who are Muslim and don't really practice. Like Turkish people. I know muslims who eat pork and don't go to mosque. | |||
"If you look at the number who actively practice a religion, as opposed to just having it recorded on some paperwork, then the numbers would be vastly different. Indeed. Both of us were christened so we'll be recorded as Christians probably but we aren't. Neither of us made the decision to be christened." Same here, I think this will apply to many  | |||
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"If you look at the number who actively practice a religion, as opposed to just having it recorded on some paperwork, then the numbers would be vastly different. Maybe, but there are nations who are Muslim and don't really practice. Like Turkish people. I know muslims who eat pork and don't go to mosque. " agreed and many drink alcohol! think that is the point many of us were making, the figures are not the whole situation  | |||
"It's good that they all have something to believe in and follow. It's just a pitty that neither of them have any truth or scientific facts about them" Is there any scientific fact about anything? Or just theories? | |||
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"I wonder if the believers ,,,still believe in santa?" shhhhhhhh dont tell em he not real!!!!!!  | |||
"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems "Jedi? | |||
"Fair play shag you do keep on plugging away at the whole god thing so kudos to you. T" Ty and yes I do that too | |||
"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems "Well in a lot of the world atheism will get you killed! But there is a lot of nuance in this. Religion is at it's core cultural. In that respect you judge what someone believes in but how they act not what they say. | |||
"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems
Well in a lot of the world atheism will get you killed! But there is a lot of nuance in this. Religion is at it's core cultural. In that respect you judge what someone believes in but how they act not what they say.
"For sure, many times you'll hear someone say that they were brought up X but don't practice. I think to many it doesn't factor into daily life. | |||
"It's good that they all have something to believe in and follow. It's just a pitty that neither of them have any truth or scientific facts about them Is there any scientific fact about anything? Or just theories?" This is the problem. Attempts at debunking religion from a scientific aspect is really cringey. It shows complete ignorance of what a belief system actually is as it's core. 100% of us have a belief system. Whether we say we do or not. | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems "Just wondering... Is this a dig at Atheists? Because I could go on for hours about the proof of science and evolution compared to the debatable argument of a "God". | |||
"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems
Well in a lot of the world atheism will get you killed! But there is a lot of nuance in this. Religion is at it's core cultural. In that respect you judge what someone believes in but how they act not what they say.
"But is religion cultural? If you considered someone of a christian denomination in Europe with a christian denomination in Africa or South America, do you think that the services would be the same?religion is practised culturally, yet at its core is similar if not the same in belief across the planet | |||
"It's good that they all have something to believe in and follow. It's just a pitty that neither of them have any truth or scientific facts about them Is there any scientific fact about anything? Or just theories? This is the problem. Attempts at debunking religion from a scientific aspect is really cringey. It shows complete ignorance of what a belief system actually is as it's core. 100% of us have a belief system. Whether we say we do or not." Yes but religions makes very fundamental claims about the nature of the universe and science has been brought to bare on those claims. Religion has had to retreat to the point where its adherents now have to use the word 'faith' in order to carry on believing | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems
Well in a lot of the world atheism will get you killed! But there is a lot of nuance in this. Religion is at it's core cultural. In that respect you judge what someone believes in but how they act not what they say.
But is religion cultural? If you considered someone of a christian denomination in Europe with a christian denomination in Africa or South America, do you think that the services would be the same?religion is practised culturally, yet at its core is similar if not the same in belief across the planet"This is exactly what i am talking about. When i say cultural i mean universally. The concept of religion is the following; - Belief in free will - Belief in an ideal/Self actualisation - To judge and be judged by others - The divinity of the individual If there was such a thing as a truly atheist country then criminal justice systems would not exist because it would be considered that people would not have free will when they committed a crime. In countries where classical religions have disappeared they have merely been replaced with an alternative. In the west currently the most prominent religion in the media and public square is wokeism. In the 20th century it was nazism and communism. People can't live without a belief system we are all hard wired to be religious. | |||
"As atheism isn't a religion would it be counted in a league table of religions?" 450-500 million according to Google. That's without people who haven't recorded their religion, or lack of. | |||
"Yes I know many so called Christians. The only time they attend church is for weddings and funerals. It's similar to saying I support the Conservatives but don't vote. Polls and statistics can be very misleading and pointless. " 98% are made up  | |||
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"Yes I know many so called Christians. The only time they attend church is for weddings and funerals. It's similar to saying I support the Conservatives but don't vote. Polls and statistics can be very misleading and pointless. 98% are made up " | |||
"Religion..the cause of all the trouble is the world today ..and none of it can be proven" Religion itself isn’t the cause of war. How can a book of religious scripture , simply ink on paper cause a war? Or if you are atheist and don’t believe in god then how can you say god causes wars if he doesn’t exist? Religions and gods don’t cause war, what does is someone with an agenda who can manipulate people using religion or national fervour | |||
"Yes I know many so called Christians. The only time they attend church is for weddings and funerals. It's similar to saying I support the Conservatives but don't vote. Polls and statistics can be very misleading and pointless. " to identify as a Christian you only have to believe in Christ (Jesus and such ... I would say God but that could be a case of well which God and your faith stopping pre Jesus is the basis of the Jewish faith i believe - same God but they don’t believe Jesus was his son) Christianity is then carved up into a number of “churches” - catholic, evangelical, baptist, church of scotland, church of england, (not sure what the “protestant” version if these are outside of the UK) ... but you don’t gave to identify with ant of these churches to be a Christian ps i used to be a catholic and now an atheist - as i got older and more educated i couldn’t reconcile religion with science , and when i moved to a non denominational school we were taught about all religions which was nice | |||
"Religion..the cause of all the trouble is the world today ..and none of it can be proven" Resources are what cause most wars. | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems
Well in a lot of the world atheism will get you killed! But there is a lot of nuance in this. Religion is at it's core cultural. In that respect you judge what someone believes in but how they act not what they say.
But is religion cultural? If you considered someone of a christian denomination in Europe with a christian denomination in Africa or South America, do you think that the services would be the same?religion is practised culturally, yet at its core is similar if not the same in belief across the planet
This is exactly what i am talking about. When i say cultural i mean universally.
The concept of religion is the following;
- Belief in free will
- Belief in an ideal/Self actualisation
- To judge and be judged by others
- The divinity of the individual
If there was such a thing as a truly atheist country then criminal justice systems would not exist because it would be considered that people would not have free will when they committed a crime. In countries where classical religions have disappeared they have merely been replaced with an alternative. In the west currently the most prominent religion in the media and public square is wokeism. In the 20th century it was nazism and communism.
People can't live without a belief system we are all hard wired to be religious."im confused by many things in your post being an atheist does not mean you do not believe in free will wokeism (is that even a word), nazism and communism are not religions ... the last 2 are political | |||
"Religion..the cause of all the trouble is the world today ..and none of it can be proven Religion itself isn’t the cause of war. How can a book of religious scripture , simply ink on paper cause a war? Or if you are atheist and don’t believe in god then how can you say god causes wars if he doesn’t exist? Religions and gods don’t cause war, what does is someone with an agenda who can manipulate people using religion or national fervour" Your reply makes no sense. Firstly - scriptures are the written basis of said religion. These written scriptures have caused more deaths in this world than anything else. Secondly - his lack of belief in a god isn't what causes wars - it's the believer's faith that uses their religion to rage war on others, many of which are innocent. Almost every religion is to blame for the deaths of other people especially Christianity and Islam. . Simple - ban religion - then most of the wars and deaths (using those beliefs) will disappear. | |||
"Religion..the cause of all the trouble is the world today ..and none of it can be proven Religion itself isn’t the cause of war. How can a book of religious scripture , simply ink on paper cause a war? Or if you are atheist and don’t believe in god then how can you say god causes wars if he doesn’t exist? Religions and gods don’t cause war, what does is someone with an agenda who can manipulate people using religion or national fervour Your reply makes no sense. Firstly - scriptures are the written basis of said religion. These written scriptures have caused more deaths in this world than anything else. Secondly - his lack of belief in a god isn't what causes wars - it's the believer's faith that uses their religion to rage war on others, many of which are innocent. Almost every religion is to blame for the deaths of other people especially Christianity and Islam. . Simple - ban religion - then most of the wars and deaths (using those beliefs) will disappear. " i can see what he is trying to say ... maybe a better wording would be faith does not cause wars but organised religion creates power and influence and money and greed and politics snd these things often lead to war the genie left the bottle long ago though ... if you think banning religion wouldn’t cause more wars rather than stop it i think you are niave | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems "Your post doesn't actually make sense.. I refer to 3 which has no figure after it and 4 which just says 1.2 billion 16% | |||
"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems
Well in a lot of the world atheism will get you killed! But there is a lot of nuance in this. Religion is at it's core cultural. In that respect you judge what someone believes in but how they act not what they say.
But is religion cultural? If you considered someone of a christian denomination in Europe with a christian denomination in Africa or South America, do you think that the services would be the same?religion is practised culturally, yet at its core is similar if not the same in belief across the planet
This is exactly what i am talking about. When i say cultural i mean universally.
The concept of religion is the following;
- Belief in free will
- Belief in an ideal/Self actualisation
- To judge and be judged by others
- The divinity of the individual
If there was such a thing as a truly atheist country then criminal justice systems would not exist because it would be considered that people would not have free will when they committed a crime. In countries where classical religions have disappeared they have merely been replaced with an alternative. In the west currently the most prominent religion in the media and public square is wokeism. In the 20th century it was nazism and communism.
People can't live without a belief system we are all hard wired to be religious.
im confused by many things in your post
being an atheist does not mean you do not believe in free will
wokeism (is that even a word), nazism and communism are not religions ... the last 2 are political "Of course it does. Ask Sam Harris or Richard Dawkins, they both say they do not believe in free will. They believe our actions are the result of our DNA plus experience. Therefore we cannot be held accountable for our actions and any negative actions are either caused by our DNA or things that happen to us or both. So why do we have prisons? Why do we judge people? Why do both Dawkins and Harris judge people? Free will is the belief that we are more than the sum of our parts. More than DNA + experience. It is the belief in the divinity of the individual, it is belief in a soul. Everyone believes in free will regardless of what they say because they act as if it exists. Ergo 100% of people are religious. | |||
" the genie left the bottle long ago though ... if you think banning religion wouldn’t cause more wars rather than stop it i think you are niave " I know my comment on banning religions would never happen, so I'm not niave. I was more trying to make a point. Love and peace can be achieved without religion. | |||
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"Religion..the cause of all the trouble is the world today ..and none of it can be proven Religion itself isn’t the cause of war. How can a book of religious scripture , simply ink on paper cause a war? Or if you are atheist and don’t believe in god then how can you say god causes wars if he doesn’t exist? Religions and gods don’t cause war, what does is someone with an agenda who can manipulate people using religion or national fervour Your reply makes no sense. Firstly - scriptures are the written basis of said religion. These written scriptures have caused more deaths in this world than anything else. Secondly - his lack of belief in a god isn't what causes wars - it's the believer's faith that uses their religion to rage war on others, many of which are innocent. Almost every religion is to blame for the deaths of other people especially Christianity and Islam. . Simple - ban religion - then most of the wars and deaths (using those beliefs) will disappear. " I mean the point was simple, I have never seen a book pick up a gun... have you? The second point was more philosophical in that if you don’t believe god exists then how, does god start wars? | |||
" the genie left the bottle long ago though ... if you think banning religion wouldn’t cause more wars rather than stop it i think you are niave I know my comment on banning religions would never happen, so I'm not niave. I was more trying to make a point. Love and peace can be achieved without religion. " I agree, yet the two aren’t mutually exclusive either. Peace can exist with or without religion, dependant on socitey | |||
" I mean the point was simple, I have never seen a book pick up a gun... have you? The second point was more philosophical in that if you don’t believe god exists then how, does god start wars? " It's the teachings of the book that gets people to pick those guns up. You either haven't read what i said or you're trying to twist my words (badly). | |||
" Everyone believes in free will regardless of what they say because they act as if it exists. Ergo 100% of people are religious." spiritual rather than religious ....... religion has a specific meaning. | |||
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" the genie left the bottle long ago though ... if you think banning religion wouldn’t cause more wars rather than stop it i think you are niave I know my comment on banning religions would never happen, so I'm not niave. I was more trying to make a point. Love and peace can be achieved without religion. I agree, yet the two aren’t mutually exclusive either. Peace can exist with or without religion, dependant on socitey" Yet people cannot exist witohut a religion. Friedrich Nietzsche said that we had 'killed god' in the west and it would be replaced by something much newer and so much much worse and it would play out in the 20th century. And it did. Nazism and Communism. Both religious belief systems. | |||
"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems "Shag. How was this data compiled ? Were those who are practising counted OR , as I suspect, are these simply the combined populations of countries perceived to be following a certain religion? | |||
" Everyone believes in free will regardless of what they say because they act as if it exists. Ergo 100% of people are religious. spiritual rather than religious ....... religion has a specific meaning." Yes it does and this seems to have gone over the heads of people in this thread. So I will say it again. Religion means; - Belief in free will - Belief in an ideal/self actualisation - To judge and be judged | |||
" the genie left the bottle long ago though ... if you think banning religion wouldn’t cause more wars rather than stop it i think you are niave I know my comment on banning religions would never happen, so I'm not niave. I was more trying to make a point. Love and peace can be achieved without religion. I agree, yet the two aren’t mutually exclusive either. Peace can exist with or without religion, dependant on socitey Yet people cannot exist witohut a religion. Friedrich Nietzsche said that we had 'killed god' in the west and it would be replaced by something much newer and so much much worse and it would play out in the 20th century. And it did. Nazism and Communism. Both religious belief systems." Political systems. | |||
"Yes I know many so called Christians. The only time they attend church is for weddings and funerals. It's similar to saying I support the Conservatives but don't vote. Polls and statistics can be very misleading and pointless. " People can have faith without attending formalised events in a building. Many practise their beliefs in their own homes as it suits them and as they are free to do in some countries or away from authoriries where they are restricted or Forbidden. | |||
" the genie left the bottle long ago though ... if you think banning religion wouldn’t cause more wars rather than stop it i think you are niave I know my comment on banning religions would never happen, so I'm not niave. I was more trying to make a point. Love and peace can be achieved without religion. I agree, yet the two aren’t mutually exclusive either. Peace can exist with or without religion, dependant on socitey Yet people cannot exist witohut a religion. Friedrich Nietzsche said that we had 'killed god' in the west and it would be replaced by something much newer and so much much worse and it would play out in the 20th century. And it did. Nazism and Communism. Both religious belief systems. Political systems. " No they were not 'just' poltical. The both created an ideal in the USSR it was Stalin and in Nazi Germany it was Hitler. They required every single person to pursue an idealistic version of themselves and to judge others for not living up to them. They were both religions. | |||
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" the genie left the bottle long ago though ... if you think banning religion wouldn’t cause more wars rather than stop it i think you are niave I know my comment on banning religions would never happen, so I'm not niave. I was more trying to make a point. Love and peace can be achieved without religion. " i agree that love and peace dont need religion i was more thinking the action of trying to remove religion would probably cause the biggest war of all | |||
" I mean the point was simple, I have never seen a book pick up a gun... have you? The second point was more philosophical in that if you don’t believe god exists then how, does god start wars? It's the teachings of the book that gets people to pick those guns up. You either haven't read what i said or you're trying to twist my words (badly). " I mean Im not trying to purposefully twist your words, and I apologise if that is how it comes across. You see religious scriptures as only containing verses which pertain to violence yet overlook “God abhors any disturbance of peace!” (2:205) From the Quran “God is not a god a god of disorder but a god of peace” 1Corinthians 14:33A from the bible/torah The very Jewish greeting of Shalom means peace I guess you find what you go looking for | |||
" the genie left the bottle long ago though ... if you think banning religion wouldn’t cause more wars rather than stop it i think you are niave I know my comment on banning religions would never happen, so I'm not niave. I was more trying to make a point. Love and peace can be achieved without religion. i agree that love and peace dont need religion i was more thinking the action of trying to remove religion would probably cause the biggest war of all " I cannot argue with you there. I can but wish we could. | |||
" Everyone believes in free will regardless of what they say because they act as if it exists. Ergo 100% of people are religious. spiritual rather than religious ....... religion has a specific meaning. Yes it does and this seems to have gone over the heads of people in this thread. So I will say it again. Religion means; - Belief in free will - Belief in an ideal/self actualisation - To judge and be judged " i am not sure where you got this definition. it might be what it “means to you” but the oxford english dictionary defines religion as “the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods” and that is where your argument that we cannot exist without religion falls down - i do it every day | |||
" Everyone believes in free will regardless of what they say because they act as if it exists. Ergo 100% of people are religious. spiritual rather than religious ....... religion has a specific meaning. Yes it does and this seems to have gone over the heads of people in this thread. So I will say it again. Religion means; - Belief in free will - Belief in an ideal/self actualisation - To judge and be judged " The phrase 'gone over your heads' implies that people can't understand what you say. I understand what you say , however my understanding of what a religion is differs from yours and I don't have to insult to hold on to my belief unless i am faced with evidence to the contrary. You may say it as many times as you wish what you describe is not a religion... perhaps it could be from Buddhism. A religion requires devotion to a 'god' Nazis were Christians. I accept that the Nazi Party were successful in influencing the Christian churches but this does not make Nazism a religion. The Nazification of Christian Germany doesn't alter the fact that Nazism was simply a racial ideology. | |||
" Everyone believes in free will regardless of what they say because they act as if it exists. Ergo 100% of people are religious. spiritual rather than religious ....... religion has a specific meaning. Yes it does and this seems to have gone over the heads of people in this thread. So I will say it again. Religion means; - Belief in free will - Belief in an ideal/self actualisation - To judge and be judged i am not sure where you got this definition. it might be what it “means to you” but the oxford english dictionary defines religion as “the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods” and that is where your argument that we cannot exist without religion falls down - i do it every day "  | |||
" the genie left the bottle long ago though ... if you think banning religion wouldn’t cause more wars rather than stop it i think you are niave I know my comment on banning religions would never happen, so I'm not niave. I was more trying to make a point. Love and peace can be achieved without religion. I agree, yet the two aren’t mutually exclusive either. Peace can exist with or without religion, dependant on socitey Yet people cannot exist witohut a religion. Friedrich Nietzsche said that we had 'killed god' in the west and it would be replaced by something much newer and so much much worse and it would play out in the 20th century. And it did. Nazism and Communism. Both religious belief systems. Political systems. No they were not 'just' poltical. The both created an ideal in the USSR it was Stalin and in Nazi Germany it was Hitler. They required every single person to pursue an idealistic version of themselves and to judge others for not living up to them. They were both religions. " No. That is not a definition of a religion. | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems "Shag..... what was number 4 | |||
"Yes I know many so called Christians. The only time they attend church is for weddings and funerals. It's similar to saying I support the Conservatives but don't vote. Polls and statistics can be very misleading and pointless. People can have faith without attending formalised events in a building. Many practise their beliefs in their own homes as it suits them and as they are free to do in some countries or away from authoriries where they are restricted or Forbidden. " That is right too . | |||
"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems
Shag..... what was number 4 "It was hinduism. I mixed up the number there. | |||
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"Doc has got hyperactive fingers ^" A few typos I needed to correct. Or was that you just showing off your psychic hindsight | |||
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"Doc has got hyperactive fingers ^ A few typos I needed to correct. Or was that you just showing off your psychic hindsight "You should get Genguy (Iain) to proof read your posts before you press send | |||
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"Personally, i think all religion is a crock of shit, but as far as I'm concerned, if it gives someone comfort to believe in god/ Buddha/allah/ satan/ odin etc, then that's fine, and it's not up for question...he /they exist.....(as long as they dont try to convince me)" religion is the biggest scam ever.... Does anyone hear the church giving money to the needy ones... Nope...faith is just a way for them to take your money ... | |||
"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems
Just wondering... Is this a dig at Atheists? Because I could go on for hours about the proof of science and evolution compared to the debatable argument of a "God". "something cannot come from nothing ..you being here proves there is something ...hence that something must have a cause ....that cause is a creator or belief system . 0+0 will never give you 1 | |||
"Religion..the cause of all the trouble is the world today ..and none of it can be proven" Mankind is the cause of all the trouble in the world today. Anything we are given for good use, we use it as a weapon. | |||
"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems
Just wondering... Is this a dig at Atheists? Because I could go on for hours about the proof of science and evolution compared to the debatable argument of a "God".
something cannot come from nothing ..you being here proves there is something ...hence that something must have a cause ....that cause is a creator or belief system .
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"Seeing as Christianity is a lot older than Islam I'm not surprised. " So where does Judaism come on the list...? | |||
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"Am not religious at all, not even in the fox hole. To me, all it has ever done is cause turmoil, conflict and pain. It has been used to suppress people, to steal from them and to torment them, here on this planet, with the promise of a better life after. It has been used to make sure that the earls, barons, princes and kings kept a tight grip on the wealth of nations. It has been used to cajole men into sacrificing their lives in untold millions. It has been used to promote racism, sexism, genderism, homophobia and to allow innocent children and their mothers to perish. For something that is supposed to promote love, tolerance, compassion and forgiveness....its track record is pretty fucking shit. You want to practice a religious belief? You do that. Just remember the blood and death that any religion is founded on." Indeed the tribal, warrior and traditional religions have a bloody and heinous past as has humanity. We still have a bloody and heinous present because about 90% of the population of the planet are at pre-conventional and conventional stages of consciousness evolution. Less than 10% have evolved to post conventional stages and have about 1% of the power. That is shifting as we speak though. The bloody and heinous past and present will only be our history when we open ourselves up to the mystery of Spirit and turn the mystery into my story and your story, | |||
"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems
Just wondering... Is this a dig at Atheists? Because I could go on for hours about the proof of science and evolution compared to the debatable argument of a "God".
something cannot come from nothing ..you being here proves there is something ...hence that something must have a cause ....that cause is a creator or belief system .
0+0 will never give you 1 "We have the tools to research the mystery, but the answer is within us, first... Love has no opposites, Spirit is in everything and in nothing. We need to conduct our research to experience it | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems
Just wondering... Is this a dig at Atheists? Because I could go on for hours about the proof of science and evolution compared to the debatable argument of a "God".
something cannot come from nothing ..you being here proves there is something ...hence that something must have a cause ....that cause is a creator or belief system .
0+0 will never give you 1
We have the tools to research the mystery, but the answer is within us, first...
Love has no opposites, Spirit is in everything and in nothing. We need to conduct our research to experience it "Evolution and science are not the disproof of ‘God’ they are the key to discovering the Omega point. We have tried to disprove god through researching exteriors. Now is the time to research our interiors | |||
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"Can anyone post me towards a religion where men and women are treated equally, where each gender can rise to the highest ranks without restriction, and where all sexual orientations and identities are welcomed and respected? Just one will do..." I think you may have to go interstellar to find that....Good luck and godspeed Mr spaceman | |||
"Can anyone post me towards a religion where men and women are treated equally, where each gender can rise to the highest ranks without restriction, and where all sexual orientations and identities are welcomed and respected? Just one will do..." I'm certainly no expert but Buddhism maybe? I'm sure there are some out there...if you're genuinely interested in sure you can find one. If you're just picking the scab... Doesn't really matter to you does it? | |||
"Can anyone post me towards a religion where men and women are treated equally, where each gender can rise to the highest ranks without restriction, and where all sexual orientations and identities are welcomed and respected? Just one will do... I'm certainly no expert but Buddhism maybe? I'm sure there are some out there...if you're genuinely interested in sure you can find one. If you're just picking the scab... Doesn't really matter to you does it? " im not sure this is the case even in buddhism... there are a number of temples women are not allowed to enter just for the fact they are “unclean” humans that menstruate | |||
"Can anyone post me towards a religion where men anI'm certainly no expert but Buddhism maybe? I'm sure there are some out there...if you're genuinely interested in sure you can find one. If you're just picking the scab... Doesn't really matter to you does it? " My point was, and I'm fairly certain that this the case, there is no religion that fulfils all the criteria. | |||
"Can anyone post me towards a religion where men anI'm certainly no expert but Buddhism maybe? I'm sure there are some out there...if you're genuinely interested in sure you can find one. If you're just picking the scab... Doesn't really matter to you does it? My point was, and I'm fairly certain that this the case, there is no religion that fulfils all the criteria. " Baha’i faith has equality | |||
"Can anyone post me towards a religion where men anI'm certainly no expert but Buddhism maybe? I'm sure there are some out there...if you're genuinely interested in sure you can find one. If you're just picking the scab... Doesn't really matter to you does it? My point was, and I'm fairly certain that this the case, there is no religion that fulfils all the criteria. " Are you an expert on the 1000s of religions out there? I'm not.. But I wouldn't profess to know about them so defer to your knowledge. More to the point... Is it something you are seeking for your spirituality and well being or is just trying to make a point about religion.? For me.. As long as it doesn't negatively impact me or mine... I'm very happy for people to believe what brings them happiness and comfort. | |||
"Can anyone post me towards a religion where men and women are treated equally, where each gender can rise to the highest ranks without restriction, and where all sexual orientations and identities are welcomed and respected? Just one will do..." Yes any form of integral spirituality | |||
"They all want banning! Religion is just a way to control the weak. " This is why I like the weekend, Sunday is a day of rest. | |||
"Seeing as Christianity is a lot older than Islam I'm not surprised. So where does Judaism come on the list...?" Shag, where are the Jews on Top of the Pops? | |||
"Can anyone post me towards a religion where men and women are treated equally, where each gender can rise to the highest ranks without restriction, and where all sexual orientations and identities are welcomed and respected? Just one will do... I think you may have to go interstellar to find that....Good luck and godspeed Mr spaceman "May the force be with him. | |||
"Seeing as Christianity is a lot older than Islam I'm not surprised. So where does Judaism come on the list...? Shag, where are the Jews on Top of the Pops?" Splitters | |||
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"Love Hawking's quote on God...time started with the big bang...prior to that there was no time .......therefore no time for a creator." Before the Big Bang was nothingness. Absolute nothingness and infinite potentiality. What is that is what God is? | |||
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"I think religion is a search for meaning. I think people can seek meaning however they like - but that that should not intrude on others. I also think other people's search for meaning has no bearing on what I believe to be meaningful or true. Where we need to make decisions about others, we should rely on things which can be tested, observed, proven, or at least best estimates agreed among the greatest minds." We can research interior data and exterior data at both the individual and collective level, using both qualitative and quantitative research methods, that includes spiritual experiences. | |||
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"I think religion is a search for meaning. I think people can seek meaning however they like - but that that should not intrude on others. I also think other people's search for meaning has no bearing on what I believe to be meaningful or true. Where we need to make decisions about others, we should rely on things which can be tested, observed, proven, or at least best estimates agreed among the greatest minds. We can research interior data and exterior data at both the individual and collective level, using both qualitative and quantitative research methods, that includes spiritual experiences. " The term I've heard is non-overlapping magisteria  | |||
"How far down the league are Jedis?" Jedi are still a long way down. 1.5% of the New Zealand population are Jedi. That's 53,000 people! | |||
"I think religion is a search for meaning. I think people can seek meaning however they like - but that that should not intrude on others. I also think other people's search for meaning has no bearing on what I believe to be meaningful or true. Where we need to make decisions about others, we should rely on things which can be tested, observed, proven, or at least best estimates agreed among the greatest minds. We can research interior data and exterior data at both the individual and collective level, using both qualitative and quantitative research methods, that includes spiritual experiences. The term I've heard is non-overlapping magisteria "Yes that is the differentiated approach of a relativist approach. However an integral approach recognises that interior phenomenon have an exterior manifestation and rather than them being non-overlapping links at the phenomena through different lenses but with an integral perspective. | |||
"I think religion is a search for meaning. I think people can seek meaning however they like - but that that should not intrude on others. I also think other people's search for meaning has no bearing on what I believe to be meaningful or true. Where we need to make decisions about others, we should rely on things which can be tested, observed, proven, or at least best estimates agreed among the greatest minds. We can research interior data and exterior data at both the individual and collective level, using both qualitative and quantitative research methods, that includes spiritual experiences. The term I've heard is non-overlapping magisteria
Yes that is the differentiated approach of a relativist approach. However an integral approach recognises that interior phenomenon have an exterior manifestation and rather than them being non-overlapping links at the phenomena through different lenses but with an integral perspective.
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems "Thank god for that ! | |||
"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, the data was from the last year 2020, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems
Thank god for that ! "Which one? | |||
"I notice that the Humanist Society is currently advertising regarding the new UK census. They're saying when you get to the religion question, put what religion you are now NOT what you were brought up with. They're suggesting that there's a lot more people with no religion about and this should be reflected in the census results." Some government funding is shared out according to the census figures for religious beliefs. I didn’t put Jedi on the recent census for exactly that reason. | |||
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"Some government funding is shared out according to the census figures for religious beliefs. " It's not done the way you're suggesting. The census allows the government to evaluate their policies of equal opportunities. Public money can then be used to sort out where there is disadvantage. Religious organisations don't receive a cheque each; they already receive tax benefits. | |||
