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Consideration in cancelling the Olympics Tokyo 202One (scheduled 23rd July - 08th August 2021) are being discussed.
It is very easy to cancel it due to the pandemic but it must be a hard decision considering all the efforts/money/investments that were spent over the past years.
Knowing the diverse professions of fabbers in the forum, I would love to know:
1. ideas how to have the Olympic Games running while keeping it safe during this pandemic or
2. just have the Olympics cancelled regardless and
3. potential impacts following cancellation (to the IOC, hosting city/country, athletes etc) |
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"I think it will be cancelled. Without visitors Japan will lose even more money than they already have done. "
Exactly.
Is there any possibility to have it in other ways, to salvage it?
Separate sports at separate dates for instance? |
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over a year ago
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"I think it will be cancelled. Without visitors Japan will lose even more money than they already have done.
Exactly.
Is there any possibility to have it in other ways, to salvage it?
Separate sports at separate dates for instance?"
I don’t think the IOC or the TV companies would go for that.
Unfortunately the 2024 and 2028 games have already been allocated. My best suggestion would be for Tokyo to host in 2022 and move all the planned Summer and Winter Olympics back two years.
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Is there any possibility to have it in other ways, to salvage it?
Separate sports at separate dates for instance?
I don’t think the IOC or the TV companies would go for that.
Unfortunately the 2024 and 2028 games have already been allocated. My best suggestion would be for Tokyo to host in 2022 and move all the planned Summer and Winter Olympics back two years.
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That's a good idea but it will clash with the 2nd largest sport games, The Commonwealth Games. |
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Cancellation is probably for the best. Imagine the potential impact of 10+ positive cases on the whole Olympic village.
We all have our preferences for events if you had to talk about reducing the number of events and I’m sure most of us would just keep it to track and field. Which is tough on the wrestlers, judoka, golfers, boxers, swimmers etc. It would be hard for the IOC to show any sort of preference or favouritism |
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Currently many winter sports (biathlon, cross country, ski jumping, alpine etc), football leagues, some swimming competitions as well (without spectators).
So, got me thinking why can't they do this for the Olympics.
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"Currently many winter sports (biathlon, cross country, ski jumping, alpine etc), football leagues, some swimming competitions as well (without spectators).
So, got me thinking why can't they do this for the Olympics.
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Even if they did the Olympics without spectators it’s the amount of athletes, officials, coaches, medics and alike that need to travel to Japan to take part |
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Goo ok on with it. The world needs the entertainment and if it can be done safely, then go for it. Not to spark a debate, but there are more people through an airport in a given day than people needed to officiate, organize and compete in the games on a daily basis. Obviously there wouldn’t be the live crowds, but it still could be done. |
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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago
Birmingham |
Separate events makes the olympics resemble another world championship. Reduce participation & what or who do you leave out?
Carry on & could be a super spreader event. Surely closed doors or quarter (ish discuss) capacity stadia would work to a degree, no idea what ticket revenue represents as income, but morning qualifiers are seldom well attended even at an Olympic Games, but big finals nights could sell out many times over. Maybe some pay to view with extra ‘back stage’ access might recover some money? |
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"I can't imagine that there's any way it could go ahead.
What if they reduce the number of sports?"
A massive influx of people from all around the world with several variants of concern possibly increasing contagion? Even if it's a smaller influx than a normal Olympics... |
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By *lan157Man
over a year ago
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"Currently many winter sports (biathlon, cross country, ski jumping, alpine etc), football leagues, some swimming competitions as well (without spectators).
So, got me thinking why can't they do this for the Olympics.
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I think its because of the number of people travelling to the event from all over the world and its not just the competitors but their coaches and administration. |
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"Cancellation is probably for the best. Imagine the potential impact of 10+ positive cases on the whole Olympic village.
We all have our preferences for events if you had to talk about reducing the number of events and I’m sure most of us would just keep it to track and field. Which is tough on the wrestlers, judoka, golfers, boxers, swimmers etc. It would be hard for the IOC to show any sort of preference or favouritism "
What if some of the sports are done virtually?
Especially the ones that involves judging eg diving, gymnastics. Recently there is a diving competition performed virtually where the competitors performed at their own countries/cities but live fed and scored (eg virtual meeting/ conference). |
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I think it will be cancelled, no idea what the alternative is.
Biggest problem is that the Olympic Village becomes an International shagging venue... so not much social distancing  |
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I think it will be cancelled, no idea what the alternative is.
Biggest problem is that the Olympic Village becomes an International shagging venue... so not much social distancing "
It's true - all those beautiful girls and guys at the top of their physical abilities and hormone levels.
They are rumours they do that after they completed their events.
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"Goo ok on with it. The world needs the entertainment and if it can be done safely, then go for it. Not to spark a debate, but there are more people through an airport in a given day than people needed to officiate, organize and compete in the games on a daily basis. Obviously there wouldn’t be the live crowds, but it still could be done."
Oh, spark a debate please.
We need ideas to be able to find the optimum solution to any problems.
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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago
Birmingham |
"Separate events makes the olympics resemble another world championship.
But the champion will still be called an Olympic Champion and the participating athletes are Olympic competitors.  "
Good point well made. Maybe this will make the IOC sort themselves out, the expense of staging & building venues that barely get used has been putting off host cities, not likely to improve after Covid economics, so maybe a static site used every 4 years, but a ‘host’ city nominated that does all the admin etc . |
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"Separate events makes the olympics resemble another world championship.
But the champion will still be called an Olympic Champion and the participating athletes are Olympic competitors.
Good point well made. Maybe this will make the IOC sort themselves out, the expense of staging & building venues that barely get used has been putting off host cities, not likely to improve after Covid economics, so maybe a static site used every 4 years, but a ‘host’ city nominated that does all the admin etc ."
It's easy to make the decision to cancel but I'm trying to put myself in the position of the head of organiser, surely there are so many considerations and ways to minimise the loss as well as appreciate all the efforts taken but make it safe at the same time.
I am thinking of:
1. Virtual competition for sports that involve scoring : gymnastic, diving, synch.swimming, dressage etc.
2. Cancelling direct contact sports eg wrestling, boxing etc
3. Spreading athletics, swimming, ball-games over longer period eg 1 sport/month.
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"The Australian open has gone ahead. That's a mess..."
Other sports too - winter sports with international participations are running now (no spectators though).
Football leagues too although people might argue that this is not international.
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By *ate_BMan
over a year ago
London |
In the spirit of sportsmanship, I believe they should shift to 2024. There're rumours of Tokyo hosting the summer games in 2032 or 2036, now considering all that investment that would be incredibly harsh. |
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-australia-55760671?__twitter_impression=true
She complained about the rules..."
Oh yes, I just read about it about 1 hour ago.
What if all athletes must be isolated in their rooms for 10-14 days after arrival and tested prior to their events? They can compete if they are confirmed negative.
At least the organising committee/host country can get something back from the accommodation fee. Sneaky but...
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-australia-55760671?__twitter_impression=true
She complained about the rules...
Oh yes, I just read about it about 1 hour ago.
What if all athletes must be isolated in their rooms for 10-14 days after arrival and tested prior to their events? They can compete if they are confirmed negative.
At least the organising committee/host country can get something back from the accommodation fee. Sneaky but...
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That is the rule in Australia, generally, and she objected to it at first.
I'm stunned Victoria let it go ahead after the mess they had last year. |
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"In the spirit of sportsmanship, I believe they should shift to 2024. There're rumours of Tokyo hosting the summer games in 2032 or 2036, now considering all that investment that would be incredibly harsh. "
Will Paris (2024) and LA (2028) agree to that?
I wonder is there any legal implications (by the investors) if the games is cancelled? |
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That is the rule in Australia, generally, and she objected to it at first.
I'm stunned Victoria let it go ahead after the mess they had last year."
And they have the highest cases amongst all territories in Australia.
I think they are confident because the US Open last year (Sept 2020) was held with no major problems. |
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That is the rule in Australia, generally, and she objected to it at first.
I'm stunned Victoria let it go ahead after the mess they had last year.
And they have the highest cases amongst all territories in Australia.
I think they are confident because the US Open last year (Sept 2020) was held with no major problems."
Had. They suppressed. And the premier got stick for it... then does this. *Facepalm*
Apparently was afraid someone else would take it.
It's the Australian Open FFS.
"And now the Australian Open, from Texas!" ... Err no |
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By *ate_BMan
over a year ago
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"In the spirit of sportsmanship, I believe they should shift to 2024. There're rumours of Tokyo hosting the summer games in 2032 or 2036, now considering all that investment that would be incredibly harsh.
Will Paris (2024) and LA (2028) agree to that?
I wonder is there any legal implications (by the investors) if the games is cancelled?"
They'll likely oppose and say there's no clause with stipulates 'in the event of pandemic etc' and also contracts have probably be handed out to developers around Paris so it's wishful thinking on my part, Tokyo seemed so cool  |
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"Cancel it, then push out each country that is scheduled to host it and slot in Japan for 3 years time. "
I think the current lifestyle (social distancing, reduce crowd etc) will be the new norm in the future.
Even if it get postponed, they still have to improvise the way it's being held.
Might be the death of contact sports or even the whole Olympic games. |
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