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By *ick270 OP Man over a year ago

Here

Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Popcorn time!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wow I'm gonna have to bite my tongue on this one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We do pay for it.

It's called taxes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you pay National Insurance your entitled to any of the services it provides..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well that came out of nowhere...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That attitude won't change a thing. The government have done a good job of convincing the public we are too blame for overusing the NHS. It's on it's knees because of them plain and simple

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I believe that they are all appropriate on the nhs.

They may seem unnecessary to you. However cosmeticsurgy is definitelyil important in these situations for some people, body dysmorphia is a terrible thing that can cause the sufferer to self harm or commit suicide.

As for abortion. No woman should be forced to have a child she doesn't want.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple over a year ago

Hailsham

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. "

Shots fired!!!!

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Excuse all the errors..

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By *atenaWoman over a year ago

Hyde

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By *ate_BMan over a year ago

London

This'll be a 'everyone has a point' thing but in a time of crisis or budget cuts etc, priority is important.

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By *parkle1974Woman over a year ago

Leeds

Sits back to watch the fireworks...

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple over a year ago

Maidstone

Most of us are paying for it. Unless you mean unemployed people shouldn’t use the NHS as they’re not prying for it? In which case, how would they afford treatment if they don’t have a job?

I wholeheartedly agree with not abusing the NHS though. Pre-covid too many people used A & E as a doctors surgery or pharmacist as they could be bothered to make appointments or wait for them. We all know those people who go to hospital just to check in on Facebook for a bit of ‘what’s up babe?’ attention. If they’re well enough to update their social media they probably don’t need to be at the hospital!

Lou x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most of us are paying for it. Unless you mean unemployed people shouldn’t use the NHS as they’re not prying for it? In which case, how would they afford treatment if they don’t have a job?

Lou x "

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

The NHS has already classified abortion care as essential during the pandemic so you can forget that.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I want a clit long enough to lick my own arse hole with.

Would it be selfish of me to demand one during the pandemic ?

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By *ick270 OP Man over a year ago

Here

As i say are they a health problem ?

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple over a year ago

Maidstone

"Most of us are paying for it. Unless you mean unemployed people shouldn’t use the NHS as they’re not prying for it? In which case, how would they afford treatment if they don’t have a job?

Lou x "

I meant paying, not prying!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"As i say are they a health problem ?"

Yes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I want a clit long enough to lick my own arse hole with.

Would it be selfish of me to demand one during the pandemic ?"

Not at all Granny

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. "

To be fair, I suspect that you are probably not qualified to make this judgement for others, feel free to arrange your own treatments privately though.

For many people, the treatments stated have a HUGE effect on their mental health, consequently they could be (literally) life or death.

Remember that none of us know the extent of other people's battles.

Cal

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As i say are they a health problem ?"

Your statement was that we should pay for it.

We already do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do your neighbours walk their own dog?

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By *ex HolesMan over a year ago

Up North

Uh oh. It’s tin hat time

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

NHS is in a crisis, so we should all do our bit to minimise our risk to others and take care of each other.

I think is what you meant to say.

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By *ick270 OP Man over a year ago

Here

So have you have big boobs or smaller boobs, an abortion or gender change will you die the answer is no .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most of us are paying for it. Unless you mean unemployed people shouldn’t use the NHS as they’re not prying for it? In which case, how would they afford treatment if they don’t have a job?

Lou x "

I was well enough to update my social media when I was in hospital during a Covid lockdown, whilst having major surgery!

I agree there are some attention seekers, but not all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem.

Shots fired!!!!"

Careful, think you should pay for that yourself too!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So have you have big boobs or smaller boobs, an abortion or gender change will you die the answer is no ."

Actually there's a lot of assessment that goes into approving these kind of surgeries. They can effect people's mental health massively which can sadly lead to suicide. Everyone's problems seem small if you don't walk a mile in their shoes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So have you have big boobs or smaller boobs, an abortion or gender change will you die the answer is no ."

Did you know that some surgery has been delayed.

It's not like people are banging on the hospital doors demanding a boob job.

I don't understand your point.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. "

So, lets say because of this pandemic, and the increase of domestic abuse, a lady has unconsensual sex (i know its a horrible subject, but unfortunately its happening) under you theory, she should have to pay for the abortion? Even though shes a victim of a crime.

P.s. I am sorry, that is an extreme example, no intent to upset anyone.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple over a year ago

Hailsham

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem.

Shots fired!!!!

Careful, think you should pay for that yourself too!"

2 shots? 12 weeks apart you mean?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

National insurance says....I will get my coat .

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"So have you have big boobs or smaller boobs, an abortion or gender change will you die the answer is no ."

But a "boob job" could be about rebuilding after a cancer surgery, a gender change for some could prevent suicide, as could an abortion. There are many reasons why people elect to have these treatments, why do you think that "you" are entitled to decide how important they are.

Also, many people don't necessarily have access to private healthcare.

Cal

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By *ick270 OP Man over a year ago

Here

No not at all But the NHS was not set up for that, is it too hard to understand ?

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By *parkle1974Woman over a year ago

Leeds

"No not at all But the NHS was not set up for that, is it too hard to understand ?"

So what was it set up for then?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So have you have big boobs or smaller boobs, an abortion or gender change will you die the answer is no ."

There are several circumstances where pregnancy is incompatible with life.

The NHS is also a bit more advanced than "if you have any outcome better than death, then fuck off"

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"OP

Do your neighbours walk their own dog? "

Don't be silly. Who walks their own dog?

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"So have you have big boobs or smaller boobs, an abortion or gender change will you die the answer is no ."

People can absolutely die without access to abortion. Look up Savita Halappanavar who died due to abortion being illegal in Ireland and who's case helped to prompt the change in law.

Similarly many women have historically died due to complications from botched attempts at abortions when they can't access them safely.

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple over a year ago

Maidstone

"Most of us are paying for it. Unless you mean unemployed people shouldn’t use the NHS as they’re not prying for it? In which case, how would they afford treatment if they don’t have a job?

Lou x

I was well enough to update my social media when I was in hospital during a Covid lockdown, whilst having major surgery!

I agree there are some attention seekers, but not all. "

I mean the ones who pop to A & E on a monthly basis when the most they’ll need is paracetamol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So have you have big boobs or smaller boobs, an abortion or gender change will you die the answer is no ."

Some can.

I'm not going to put my detailed medical history out there publicly, but I will say that an unplanned pregnancy for me could lead to severe medical complications, hospitalisation, miscarriage and even - in the very worst case scenario - me dying.

It is necessary in some cases.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I've been on social media when I've been in hospital (not during pandemic). When the pain meds kick in and I've slept enough, frankly it's something to do.

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By *ick270 OP Man over a year ago

Here

So all i get is told to fuck off, you are the problem not the cure

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So have you have big boobs or smaller boobs, an abortion or gender change will you die the answer is no .

Some can.

It is necessary in some cases. "

I'm sorry that that is the case for you.

I will add if a woman chooses to end a pregnancy for whatever reason it is necessary in all case's.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So all i get is told to fuck off, you are the problem not the cure "

There have been many cogent arguments. I'm sorry you can't see them.

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"So all i get is told to fuck off, you are the problem not the cure "

I think you need to actually read the responses.

People are disagreeing but explaining why procedures such as those mentioned are available on the nhs and quite rightly so. Pandemic or not.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So all i get is told to fuck off, you are the problem not the cure

I think you need to actually read the responses.

People are disagreeing but explaining why procedures such as those mentioned are available on the nhs and quite rightly so. Pandemic or not."

I think I'm the only one who used the words "fuck off", but clearly not directed at the OP.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So have you have big boobs or smaller boobs, an abortion or gender change will you die the answer is no .

Some can.

It is necessary in some cases.

I'm sorry that that is the case for you.

I will add if a woman chooses to end a pregnancy for whatever reason it is necessary in all case's."

Oh yes, absolutely! Sorry if my post suggested otherwise - I was thinking purely in medical terms but of course no woman should ever have to carry a pregnancy that she doesn't want.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Wow I'm gonna have to bite my tongue on this one. "

Please don’t

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So all i get is told to fuck off, you are the problem not the cure "

The NHS only gives the appropriate treatments to the appropriate patients at the appropriate times....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

*taking a gulp of wine*

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So have you have big boobs or smaller boobs, an abortion or gender change will you die the answer is no .

Some can.

It is necessary in some cases.

I'm sorry that that is the case for you.

I will add if a woman chooses to end a pregnancy for whatever reason it is necessary in all case's.

Oh yes, absolutely! Sorry if my post suggested otherwise - I was thinking purely in medical terms but of course no woman should ever have to carry a pregnancy that she doesn't want. "

Yes of course and I totally understand I just think when something is so emotive we all read things from own perspective.

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"So all i get is told to fuck off, you are the problem not the cure

I think you need to actually read the responses.

People are disagreeing but explaining why procedures such as those mentioned are available on the nhs and quite rightly so. Pandemic or not.

I think I'm the only one who used the words "fuck off", but clearly not directed at the OP."

Unfortunately, the OP is only seeing what he wants to see and is clearly unhappy we don't agree with him.

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By *tstillworksMan over a year ago

Darlington

"That attitude won't change a thing. The government have done a good job of convincing the public we are too blame for overusing the NHS. It's on it's knees because of them plain and simple

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By *acDreamyMan over a year ago

Wirral

Right now you can't get anything except covid treatment!

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By *ick270 OP Man over a year ago

Here

So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Right now you can't get anything except covid treatment! "

That is not true!

Yes services are restricted but services are available based on clinical need.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°"

You really are not helping yourself!

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Right now you can't get anything except covid treatment! "

You can ... there might be a delay but hospitals are continuing to treat as many as they can.

I was at hospital only last week for a scan and will be back end of Feb.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So going on that logic someone throws themselves in front of a bus to try and top themselves, get splattered but don't die so the nhs shouldn't try and save them?

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°"

I am beginning to think that you just like to stir things up, and are being deliberately obtuse

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By *otSoPoshWoman over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"So have you have big boobs or smaller boobs, an abortion or gender change will you die the answer is no ."

In case you didn't know... an abortion is a rather time sensitive issue. Not really possible to wait for covid to fuck off before it's performed.

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By *parkle1974Woman over a year ago

Leeds

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°"

Haven't you heard of r@pe or other situations where getting pregnant was not the womans choice???

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By *ed-monkeyCouple over a year ago

Hailsham

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°

I am beginning to think that you just like to stir things up, and are being deliberately obtuse

No ... not a troll??

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°

I am beginning to think that you just like to stir things up, and are being deliberately obtuse

No ... not a troll??

I'm afraid so, and not the under the bridge fairy tale kind.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°"

The NHS is staffed and run by experts in their fields who think it appropriate to offer the services they do.

Could you enlighten us why you think those experts are wrong..??

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

Nobody told you to fuck off OP.

If you read it again you'll see that it was basically saying that your attitude at the moment is, if your medical condition isn't gonna kill ya, then you can fuck off and find your own private health care.

Which is what you're suggesting correct?

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By *ed-monkeyCouple over a year ago

Hailsham

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°

I am beginning to think that you just like to stir things up, and are being deliberately obtuse

No ... not a troll??

I'm afraid so, and not the under the bridge fairy tale kind."

I'll corral the goats then

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By *revaunanceCouple over a year ago

Exeter

"So have you have big boobs or smaller boobs, an abortion or gender change will you die the answer is no ."

Well... A mastectomy is an operation to remove some or all of the breast. It's used to treat breast cancer in women or in men. It can also be used to reduce the risk of cancer developing in the breast.

So the answer to your question could also be yes.

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By *otSoPoshWoman over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°"

I don't even care that it's likely you're just being a troll.

How dare you even suggest that abortions shouldn't be being performed just because birth control is available. Seriously. How you have the brass neck to do that is beyond me.

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°"

Jesus fucking christ.

Yes everyone has to do their bit to take extra care. You do realise not every pregnancy is wanted for many reasons. So you're saying an abuse victim has to continue with the pregnancy? Someone who's contraception failed through no fault of their own has to continue with the pregnancy? Someone who's own health gets compromised has to continue with the pregnancy? A child should be brought into the world even if it has identified health issues rather than terminate that pregnancy?

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By *etite_delightWoman over a year ago

BunnyLand

plastic surgeons and clinic nurses don’t change their duties to care for covid patients so that’s an irrelevant demand! case closed

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°"

Yeah I knew we'd get here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

He,s gone offline probably to check his supply of Viagra and check on the progress of his appointment to get his penis enlargement job off the NHS. X

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By *ankie303Woman over a year ago

Weirdsville South Coast Dorset

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°"

What if complications mean risk to life if the pregnancy is continued?

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By *ed-monkeyCouple over a year ago

Hailsham

"He,s gone offline probably to check his supply of Viagra and check on the progress of his appointment to get his penis enlargement job off the NHS. X

Wait ... the NHS do penis enlargements?

Erm ... asking for a friend

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I think men looking for casual sex who aren't incredibly pro choice... need to untwist the pretzel of contradiction in their heads.

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By *otSoPoshWoman over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

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By *uke olovingmanMan over a year ago

Gravesend

There are lots of people working in the NHS who are not qualified or experienced in dealing with SARS viruses and their complications....there are also lots of people who still need the NHS to deal with other conditions whether mental or physical. I believe the Corona outbreak should be handled with extra funding rather than robbing other departments

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By * Sophie xTV/TS over a year ago

Derby

So let's see then OP.

Can you say with 100% certainty that you have always worn a mask at the correct time, kept to very strict social distancing, washed your hands and used hand sanitiser correctly.

Have you never picked up an item in a shop or supermarket and put it back down again.

If you have succeeded in every single solitary way to adhere to all the rules and regulations that were correct at the time then you have my blessing to spout your opening post from the rooftops and I will listen.

Until such a time and until you can prove that you have also done all you can to help the NHS during its worst time in its history, I suggest a little humble pie is in order as you simply didn't comprehend how complex both the NHS and the people who use it are.

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°"

They're not 100% effective. Some women can't use hormonal contraception. Some abortions were wanted pregnancies.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He,s gone offline probably to check his supply of Viagra and check on the progress of his appointment to get his penis enlargement job off the NHS. X

I thought he was getting pissy because his penis relocation surgery was cancelled after his forehead had already been prepped tbh

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By *acDreamyMan over a year ago

Wirral

"Right now you can't get anything except covid treatment!

You can ... there might be a delay but hospitals are continuing to treat as many as they can.

I was at hospital only last week for a scan and will be back end of Feb."

I know. I am there every day. I was trying to make light of this daft debate!

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The country is in crisis. Who can we blame?

Women who want abortions! That's logical.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Right now you can't get anything except covid treatment!

You can ... there might be a delay but hospitals are continuing to treat as many as they can.

I was at hospital only last week for a scan and will be back end of Feb.

I know. I am there every day. I was trying to make light of this daft debate! "

I thought about suggesting that we should quit giving the MMR, because most people don't die from those diseases, but...

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°"

Also want to add that many women have struggled to access contraception during the pandemic such as those who have the depo injection every 12 weeks.

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By *otSoPoshWoman over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"Right now you can't get anything except covid treatment!

You can ... there might be a delay but hospitals are continuing to treat as many as they can.

I was at hospital only last week for a scan and will be back end of Feb.

I know. I am there every day. I was trying to make light of this daft debate! "

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Right now you can't get anything except covid treatment!

You can ... there might be a delay but hospitals are continuing to treat as many as they can.

I was at hospital only last week for a scan and will be back end of Feb.

I know. I am there every day. I was trying to make light of this daft debate! "

I think the intention got a bit lost

It's an emotive subject.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°

Also want to add that many women have struggled to access contraception during the pandemic such as those who have the depo injection every 12 weeks. "

And the implant, mine is 3 months overdue and I can't get an appointment till April.

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"So you get pregnant its nhs problem, funny how the pill condoms coil etc have been around and you since ?°

Also want to add that many women have struggled to access contraception during the pandemic such as those who have the depo injection every 12 weeks.

And the implant, mine is 3 months overdue and I can't get an appointment till April.

I'm sorry to hear that, it's so difficult at the moment

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

My coil runs out in a few months

I'm not using it for its intended purpose at the moment, but fuck it's nice for my periods to be manageable.

Can I live with horrendous periods? Yeah. Is me getting healthcare the cause of the pandemic? No.

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By *ick270 OP Man over a year ago

Here

O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic

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By *arker secrets 321Man over a year ago

West Bromwich

How much more money could NHS make if car parking went back into the hospitals and maybe every body paid a £1 4 there treatment ..only an idea

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic "

Please explain this in the context of your original post?

I don't see the correlation.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic "

Are you even reading the same thread as the rest of us?

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By *parkle1974Woman over a year ago

Leeds

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic "

In what way are they not?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Don't feed it..

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic

Please explain this in the context of your original post?

I don't see the correlation. "

I think he's saying that women having contraceptive and gynaecological requirements are irresponsible.

... I'm sorry my uterus is "medically interesting"?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

You could pay for those who you don't see as priority OP

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not getting an abortion could be love threatening OP, did you consider that? Boob jobs could be part of cancer treatment/recovery, gender change part of a long journey that could of started before the pandemic kicked in and has a major impact on mental health/ well-being. People are still people that need help, pandemic or not. The NHS are doing everything possible to keep up with all the things they do away from Covid. Some things may be delayed but they are trying.

My goddaughter needs a (so far benign but gradually changing) tumour removed from her leg, she's 9. It's getting done ASAP. You going to tell her she has to wait?

Crawl back under your bridge.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic "

Is that the problem, you haven’t been able to get your meds..??

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic

Please explain this in the context of your original post?

I don't see the correlation.

I think he's saying that women having contraceptive and gynaecological requirements are irresponsible.

... I'm sorry my uterus is "medically interesting"?

Or that "women's problems" are not important

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By *ed-monkeyCouple over a year ago

Hailsham

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic "

Should we be jibing before tacking?

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

Fuck it, all the pregnant bitches can have their sprogs at home too, or pay private. That'll save a few quid and ya can free up the labour wards as extra ICU units. So what if the doctors and midwives ain't trained in ICU.

Or maybe we just shut the hospital doors to 'rona patients instead. I mean, they must have caught it by going out when there's a stay at home order. Nope.... no excuses!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP I would just like to congratulate you and your family on living healthy and uncomplicated lives. Will you now please crawl back under your stone and let the rest of us deal with lifes problems with people that care.

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By *ankie303Woman over a year ago

Weirdsville South Coast Dorset

"How much more money could NHS make if car parking went back into the hospitals and maybe every body paid a £1 4 there treatment ..only an idea "

According to my local rag the other day, our local hospital makes an excess of £700,000 a year on parking

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic "

We cannot be both a burden and responsible surely

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic

Please explain this in the context of your original post?

I don't see the correlation.

I think he's saying that women having contraceptive and gynaecological requirements are irresponsible.

... I'm sorry my uterus is "medically interesting"?

Or that "women's problems" are not important

I've had gynaecological surgery (not abortion or pregnancy related). I know that that's the default position already *shrug*

Silly woman I am, not wanting to die. Ugh!

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By *ent in BlackMan over a year ago

Silsden

Popcorn out.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic

We cannot be both a burden and responsible surely"

Of course we can

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Popcorn out."

Don't get it stuck in your throat and expect anyone to thump you

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I don't feel as though the OP is getting put on any Christmas lists here

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By *ick270 OP Man over a year ago

Here

Having made my point ill let all the woke selfish get on with it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So have you have big boobs or smaller boobs, an abortion or gender change will you die the answer is no ."

Might wanna check up the suicide statistics with people with gender dysphoria before you start saying anything silly

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By *parkle1974Woman over a year ago

Leeds

You've made no point or sense!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Having made my point ill let all the woke selfish get on with it "

Thank you.

Its much appreciated.

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic

Please explain this in the context of your original post?

I don't see the correlation.

I think he's saying that women having contraceptive and gynaecological requirements are irresponsible.

... I'm sorry my uterus is "medically interesting"?

Or that "women's problems" are not important

I've had gynaecological surgery (not abortion or pregnancy related). I know that that's the default position already *shrug*

Silly woman I am, not wanting to die. Ugh!

I know... shocking isn't it...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Having made my point ill let all the woke selfish get on with it "

What point did you make...???

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By *ed-monkeyCouple over a year ago

Hailsham

"You've made no point or sense!"

Don't feed the troll!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I just had a thought.

I am trying to get treatment for a severe mental health condition. On the NHS. During a global pandemic. Treatment that some might argue isn't 100% necessary.

Fuck, I'm a monster!

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Having made my point ill let all the woke selfish get on with it "

Much appreciated hun

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

"Having made my point ill let all the woke selfish get on with it "

Selfish? When your point is "pay for that stuff yourself"

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By *otSoPoshWoman over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"Having made my point ill let all the woke selfish get on with it "

You've made no point whatsoever, except that you're being an ignorant troll.

But well done in making that point and driving it home firmly, in case anyone was under any illusion there was any more to you.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Having made my point ill let all the woke selfish get on with it "

Awww thankyou

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By *parkle1974Woman over a year ago

Leeds

"You've made no point or sense!

Don't feed the troll!!"

I'm being nice for a change as apparently I take the piss usually

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Now, back to our evil terrible pandemic driving femaleness. Virtual woman only orgy anyone?

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

Quick question for anyone in the know... don't you have to pay for "boob jobs" anyway, and the only ones they give ya on the NHS are for reconstruction or mental health issues anyway?

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By *ed-monkeyCouple over a year ago

Hailsham

"You've made no point or sense!

Don't feed the troll!!

I'm being nice for a change as apparently I take the piss usually

Who said that??? I'll get'em for you

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Quick question for anyone in the know... don't you have to pay for "boob jobs" anyway, and the only ones they give ya on the NHS are for reconstruction or mental health issues anyway? "

I think so, but who needs facts when you can be inflammatory?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quick question for anyone in the know... don't you have to pay for "boob jobs" anyway, and the only ones they give ya on the NHS are for reconstruction or mental health issues anyway? "

Afaik that is correct yeah

Boob Reduction is covered i think for health reasons

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By *arker secrets 321Man over a year ago

West Bromwich

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic

Please explain this in the context of your original post?

I don't see the correlation.

I think he's saying that women having contraceptive and gynaecological requirements are irresponsible.

... I'm sorry my uterus is "medically interesting"?

I'm no gynaecologist but ill av a dam good look

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Quick question for anyone in the know... don't you have to pay for "boob jobs" anyway, and the only ones they give ya on the NHS are for reconstruction or mental health issues anyway? "

I believe that boob jobs are available on the nhs, if the issue is deemed to be causing significant mental or physical illness.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic

Please explain this in the context of your original post?

I don't see the correlation.

I think he's saying that women having contraceptive and gynaecological requirements are irresponsible.

... I'm sorry my uterus is "medically interesting"?

I'm no gynaecologist but ill av a dam good look "

I've seen the pictures from the surgery. You don't want to do that

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By *imbobaMan over a year ago

Glasgow

I’ve been refused proper treatment for carpal tunnel. Totally effects my work.

But you won’t catch me banging on doors when folk are dying out there. I’ll take the drugs till I can get my spot. Oh, and I’m going mental like most folk.

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

And don't forget the old folk, getting their free medication delivered to their door. They ain't gonna die without it, so fuck it they can either pay for it or go without...

And their rent too, old uns that live in council houses get free rent. Fuck it, make em cough up and put the extra income back into the council

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And don't forget the old folk, getting their free medication delivered to their door. They ain't gonna die without it, so fuck it they can either pay for it or go without...

And their rent too, old uns that live in council houses get free rent. Fuck it, make em cough up and put the extra income back into the council "

Yeah fuck um.

I mean who wants to live in the kind of society where we actually look after vulnerable people or people that need support or help.

That is not a world I want to live in.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"And don't forget the old folk, getting their free medication delivered to their door. They ain't gonna die without it, so fuck it they can either pay for it or go without...

And their rent too, old uns that live in council houses get free rent. Fuck it, make em cough up and put the extra income back into the council

Yeah fuck um.

I mean who wants to live in the kind of society where we actually look after vulnerable people or people that need support or help.

That is not a world I want to live in.

Society. Sounds a bit communist, doesn't it?

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

For those who live in the fairy tale that everyone is entitled to what they want, when they want it, of tip quality and also include all health tourists. I would love to see some work done to cost the service people think they want, compared to the one they are prepared to fund. Nothing is for free. So let's have a grown up debate about what we want and how its funded, then we stand half a chance of having it delivered. Cross party 10 year plan of delivering the health service we think we want.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Still biting my tongue and think it's going to bleed soon.

Some people really aren't educated enough.

The abortion part of this thread has really got my back up and hit a nerve but I'll keep it zipped.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"For those who live in the fairy tale that everyone is entitled to what they want, when they want it, of tip quality and also include all health tourists. I would love to see some work done to cost the service people think they want, compared to the one they are prepared to fund. Nothing is for free. So let's have a grown up debate about what we want and how its funded, then we stand half a chance of having it delivered. Cross party 10 year plan of delivering the health service we think we want. "

I live in the fairy tale that the NHS does a risk, benefit, and cost assessment of various interventions and applies them appropriately. *shrug*

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By *arker secrets 321Man over a year ago

West Bromwich

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic

Please explain this in the context of your original post?

I don't see the correlation.

I think he's saying that women having contraceptive and gynaecological requirements are irresponsible.

... I'm sorry my uterus is "medically interesting"?

I'm no gynaecologist but ill av a dam good look

I've seen the pictures from the

surgery. You don't want to do that

On a serious note I hope ur well and u av recovered from ur treatment .only trying 2 lighten the moment x

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"O dear not a lot tacking responsible actions even in a pandemic

Please explain this in the context of your original post?

I don't see the correlation.

I think he's saying that women having contraceptive and gynaecological requirements are irresponsible.

... I'm sorry my uterus is "medically interesting"?

I'm no gynaecologist but ill av a dam good look

I've seen the pictures from the

surgery. You don't want to do that

On a serious note I hope ur well and u av recovered from ur treatment .only trying 2 lighten the moment x "

It was years ago, so yes, thank you.

Gynaecological needs are often derided, though. It's still body parts and it can be just as dangerous or traumatic if things go wrong.

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. "
Agree 100%

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By *etanoiaWoman over a year ago

Yorkshire

" I thought he was getting pissy because his penis relocation surgery was cancelled after his forehead had already been prepped tbh

That made me belly laugh!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How about a fairy tale of "people that need help/medical treatment get it" that's what our NHS is doing to the best of its ability. This isn't about politics right now, it's about selfish people thinking people don't deserve the help when they need it.

Either the OP is a very selfish person or he deliberately set off a bomb knowing what would happen. Either way, we are entitled to our opinions on the matter.

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By *imon_hydeMan over a year ago

Stockport

Ah the Daily Mail of forum posts

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP .....There are better ways to get attention.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Ah the Daily Mail of forum posts"

People get their dopamine hit from arguing, it's all good

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How much more money could NHS make if car parking went back into the hospitals and maybe every body paid a £1 4 there treatment ..only an idea

According to my local rag the other day, our local hospital makes an excess of £700,000 a year on parking"

Ok I am going to lay out the myth from the fact. As an accountant currently contracting within the NHS and trying to allocate funding in a responsible mannor this is close to my heart.

When new hospitals are built the hospital well sell for a chunky fee the rights to the land directly outside the building. These were bought by private companies who built and operate the car parks. This was done to recoup an amount via a large instant cash injection. Ie:- i spent 15 mil building a hospital here is 700k I can get back instantly.

I work in the finance department for the supplyy chain business currently. Our systems are outdated, minor accouting errors are made and we have to write these off. Our systems will not be upgraded as we believe i. Spending our resources on the front line and not back office functions. Of course this leads to frustration, as I know most of this would be fixed without thought if the NHS was a private business, but it isn’t and never should be.

The computer hack on the NHS 2 years ago is a prime example of this. Not complicated, a simple software boost would have stopped it, but had the decision been made to spend 2-3 mil on software upgrades, I guarantee everyone would be up in arms!

Hospitals are still operating albeit at a reduced capacity as more resources are being diverted to tackle covid.

If the OP wants a quicker covid fix find me circa 500 -750 mil tomorrow and we can resolve this within three months, but as you and everyone else would complain about a sharp tax rise (and in my opinion futile whilst unemployment is high) we are stuck working with limited resources

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. Agree 100%"

I’d suggest reading through the thread

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. Agree 100%

I’d suggest reading through the thread "

And then praying if you have a daughter or granddaughter that they don't need a termination for any reason.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. Agree 100%

I’d suggest reading through the thread

And then praying if you have a daughter or granddaughter that they don't need a termination for any reason."

We should all engage in safe sex.

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By *G999Man over a year ago

Everywhere & Nowhere

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. "

This dude is just bored.

Have you tried sudoku buddy?

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"How much more money could NHS make if car parking went back into the hospitals and maybe every body paid a £1 4 there treatment ..only an idea

According to my local rag the other day, our local hospital makes an excess of £700,000 a year on parking

Ok I am going to lay out the myth from the fact. As an accountant currently contracting within the NHS and trying to allocate funding in a responsible mannor this is close to my heart.

Hospitals are still operating albeit at a reduced capacity as more resources are being diverted to tackle covid.

So we are constrained. Are you asserting that for 500 to 750 million pounds we could "fix" the nhs to meet all of its demands? That's quite remarkable if that is the case.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't feel as though the OP is getting put on any Christmas lists here

Does forum insurance cover this one?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. Agree 100%

I’d suggest reading through the thread

And then praying if you have a daughter or granddaughter that they don't need a termination for any reason.

We should all engage in safe sex. "

I’ll let all the rapists I’ve dealt with in my career know that, that’s the way forward..

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. Agree 100%

I’d suggest reading through the thread

And then praying if you have a daughter or granddaughter that they don't need a termination for any reason.

We should all engage in safe sex. "

What if you're r*ped and have no fucking choice in the matter?

What if you DO engage in safe sex and the contraception fails?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Anyone else feel theyve lost a few brain cells since reading the op's comment?

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

"Anyone else feel theyve lost a few brain cells since reading the op's comment?

A few nerves more like

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone else feel theyve lost a few brain cells since reading the op's comment?

A few nerves more like "

Yep, lost a few of them too.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How much more money could NHS make if car parking went back into the hospitals and maybe every body paid a £1 4 there treatment ..only an idea

According to my local rag the other day, our local hospital makes an excess of £700,000 a year on parking

Ok I am going to lay out the myth from the fact. As an accountant currently contracting within the NHS and trying to allocate funding in a responsible mannor this is close to my heart.

Hospitals are still operating albeit at a reduced capacity as more resources are being diverted to tackle covid.

So we are constrained. Are you asserting that for 500 to 750 million pounds we could "fix" the nhs to meet all of its demands? That's quite remarkable if that is the case. "

I am suggesting you would be able to speed up the NHS ability to deal with covid (assuming the public behave and persist with social distancing.)

Once done we can then go back to putting the majority of our funding back to business as usual services.

Even then I am low-balling my figure as it assumes one dose of vaccine costs between 8-11.50 gbp, which trust me it does not!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. Agree 100%

I’d suggest reading through the thread

And then praying if you have a daughter or granddaughter that they don't need a termination for any reason.

We should all engage in safe sex.

I’ll let all the rapists I’ve dealt with in my career know that, that’s the way forward.."

Appreciate it. Possibly forward me their information so I can inform them as well.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. Agree 100%

I’d suggest reading through the thread

And then praying if you have a daughter or granddaughter that they don't need a termination for any reason.

We should all engage in safe sex. "

Not everyone has sex by choice.

Sometimes birth control fails.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"That attitude won't change a thing. The government have done a good job of convincing the public we are too blame for overusing the NHS. It's on it's knees because of them plain and simple

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. Agree 100%

I’d suggest reading through the thread

And then praying if you have a daughter or granddaughter that they don't need a termination for any reason.

We should all engage in safe sex.

I’ll let all the rapists I’ve dealt with in my career know that, that’s the way forward..

Appreciate it. Possibly forward me their information so I can inform them as well. "

Think I can manage without your well informed assistance...

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By *otSoPoshWoman over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. Agree 100%

I’d suggest reading through the thread

And then praying if you have a daughter or granddaughter that they don't need a termination for any reason.

We should all engage in safe sex. "

Well hell. I'm glad all the contraceptives are 100% reliable.

And I'm glad all the r@pists use them too.

Oh. Wait.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"How much more money could NHS make if car parking went back into the hospitals and maybe every body paid a £1 4 there treatment ..only an idea

According to my local rag the other day, our local hospital makes an excess of £700,000 a year on parking

Ok I am going to lay out the myth from the fact. As an accountant currently contracting within the NHS and trying to allocate funding in a responsible mannor this is close to my heart.

Hospitals are still operating albeit at a reduced capacity as more resources are being diverted to tackle covid.

So we are constrained. Are you asserting that for 500 to 750 million pounds we could "fix" the nhs to meet all of its demands? That's quite remarkable if that is the case.

I am suggesting you would be able to speed up the NHS ability to deal with covid (assuming the public behave and persist with social distancing.)

Once done we can then go back to putting the majority of our funding back to business as usual services.

Even then I am low-balling my figure as it assumes one dose of vaccine costs between 8-11.50 gbp, which trust me it does not!"

Ah OK. Nice sentiment. Low balling the costs is one of the issues though. We have this notion that the NHS is "free". It isn't. It costs money. And until we understand how much it costs to do all the things we want, and whether people are prepared to pay those costs... We will forever be complaining that its not funded properly. Funded properly to deliver exactly what? Its a much more complex issue that has been politicised way too much.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. Agree 100%

I’d suggest reading through the thread

And then praying if you have a daughter or granddaughter that they don't need a termination for any reason.

We should all engage in safe sex.

Not everyone has sex by choice.

Sometimes birth control fails. "

I am very much aware that not everyone has sex by choice.

I've been there and ever since I've been aware you can never be to safe you can use more than one form of contraception at one time.

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By *urzellMan over a year ago

Hornsea

"He,s gone offline probably to check his supply of Viagra and check on the progress of his appointment to get his penis enlargement job off the NHS. X

???????? Well said

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Anyone else feel theyve lost a few brain cells since reading the op's comment?

A few nerves more like "

I didn't think it was possible for my nerves to be any further irritated. But I was wrong

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. Agree 100%

I’d suggest reading through the thread

And then praying if you have a daughter or granddaughter that they don't need a termination for any reason.

We should all engage in safe sex.

Not everyone has sex by choice.

Sometimes birth control fails.

I am very much aware that not everyone has sex by choice.

I've been there and ever since I've been aware you can never be to safe you can use more than one form of contraception at one time. "

I can't.

Condoms or condoms for me. Anything that alters my hormones turns me into a complete psycho mess. Or am I just exaggerating or being a bit of a pansy?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'm glad this mess is almost over.

Remember women, needing gynaecological care is woke, selfish, and perpetuating the pandemic

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. Agree 100%

I’d suggest reading through the thread

And then praying if you have a daughter or granddaughter that they don't need a termination for any reason.

We should all engage in safe sex.

Not everyone has sex by choice.

Sometimes birth control fails.

I am very much aware that not everyone has sex by choice.

I've been there and ever since I've been aware you can never be to safe you can use more than one form of contraception at one time. "

Not necessarily. Plenty of women are unable to use hormonal birth control and that severely limits the choices available.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Is in a crisis, so if you want a boob job, gender change, abortion, I say pay for it it's not a NHS problem. Agree 100%

I’d suggest reading through the thread

And then praying if you have a daughter or granddaughter that they don't need a termination for any reason.

We should all engage in safe sex.

Not everyone has sex by choice.

Sometimes birth control fails.

I am very much aware that not everyone has sex by choice.

I've been there and ever since I've been aware you can never be to safe you can use more than one form of contraception at one time.

I can't.

Condoms or condoms for me. Anything that alters my hormones turns me into a complete psycho mess. Or am I just exaggerating or being a bit of a pansy? "

Either way it's your fault. Duh.

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