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"Why is it ok to cook some meat from frozen but then some stuff says defrost first?
In the olden days you had to defost everything....now it's all a bit confusingizing.
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Mrs KinkyCouple might know that answer |
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"Why is it ok to cook some meat from frozen but then some stuff says defrost first?
In the olden days you had to defost everything....now it's all a bit confusingizing.
Mrs KinkyCouple might know that answer "
I think you're probably right. She's a smarty pants |
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I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.
People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up |
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"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.
People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up"
Yes I get that bit, but I've got a bag of frozen chick here for the child (a good swap, hey)...says defrost first, do I risk cooking it from frozen?
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"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.
People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up
Yes I get that bit, but I've got a bag of frozen chick here for the child (a good swap, hey)...says defrost first, do I risk cooking it from frozen?
Hmm.... "
I only cook chicken from frozen in my pressure cooker
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"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.
People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up
Yes I get that bit, but I've got a bag of frozen chick here for the child (a good swap, hey)...says defrost first, do I risk cooking it from frozen?
Hmm....
I only cook chicken from frozen in my pressure cooker
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A lot of it is down to the travelling time of the product.
Most fresh UK meat is fine to be cooked either way , whereas it's usually for example New Zealand lamb has had to be frozen for at least part of its journey to the UK due to sheer time in transit  |
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"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.
People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up
Yes I get that bit, but I've got a bag of frozen chick here for the child (a good swap, hey)...says defrost first, do I risk cooking it from frozen?
Hmm....
I only cook chicken from frozen in my pressure cooker
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My old pressure cooker was scarier than a frozen chicken.
I used to have to hit it with a wooden spoon |
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"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.
People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up
Yes I get that bit, but I've got a bag of frozen chick here for the child (a good swap, hey)...says defrost first, do I risk cooking it from frozen?
Hmm....
I only cook chicken from frozen in my pressure cooker
My old pressure cooker was scarier than a frozen chicken.
I used to have to hit it with a wooden spoon "
Modern ones are very safe and simple |
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"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.
People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up
Yes I get that bit, but I've got a bag of frozen chick here for the child (a good swap, hey)...says defrost first, do I risk cooking it from frozen?
Hmm.... "
If it says defrost first then yeah, I'd defo follow the instructions.
I work with food yeah, but I just carry it to tables 
There's some stuff I know but plenty I don't and molecular level issues is a don't.
Also, if you cook from frozen and munchkin gets poorly, you've no comeback as you didn't cook as per instruction.
What I will say though, don't wash your chicken. Loads of people do and that's bad bad, you can splash bacteria like campilobacta (probably spelt that really wrong!) onto other surfaces, and that's a big bad bacteria. |
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"I cook everything from frozen and I haven't died yet.
That however is not evidence that cooking some meats from frozen is not potentially hazardous
Well its evidence that people probably won't die.
(I will take no responsibility for anyone who dies after reading my advice)
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In the main if its a big joint then yes defrost as the outside will spoil before the core is cooked but generally if its cooked thorough to the correct core temp it will b ok been a cook all my adult life and not killed anyone either!! x |
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I think it's to do with a cavity, if it's got one then you should defrost first because of the possibility of bacterial growth in said cavity, like chicken. |
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"In the main if its a big joint then yes defrost as the outside will spoil before the core is cooked but generally if its cooked thorough to the correct core temp it will b ok been a cook all my adult life and not killed anyone either!! x"
That makes sense
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"In the main if its a big joint then yes defrost as the outside will spoil before the core is cooked but generally if its cooked thorough to the correct core temp it will b ok been a cook all my adult life and not killed anyone either!! x
That makes sense
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I just think follow the cooking instructions, they’ve been carefully tested and recommended for a reason.
Processed meat seems to usually be ok to cook from frozen although some unprocessed meat is ok too. It’s probably more to do with the preparation, storage and transportation methods used.
If I didn’t cook it properly or it doesn’t smell quite right the worry as to whether or not it’s safe to eat will put me off eating it.
And never re-freeze defrosted meat, unless you’ve cooked it first.
Lou x
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"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.
People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up"
Absolutely this^^^ |
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"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.
People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up
Absolutely this^^^"
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"I cock everything from frozen and I haven't died yet.
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Lol the amount of people who say the same about meeting during covid is a remarkable parallel 
"Oh I don't wear a mask distance or bother with that shit and I haven't died(said some wally on social media)
I do not know the full story
And I would not suggest going against the advice without first understanding the intricate reasoning why
The frozen whole chicken example to be roasted in my opinion should be an absolute no no
Put it in a slow cooker for a day well ill research it first but should be plausible
I honestly think "not died yet " is not evidence I'd use to follow
Bob on social media hasn't died yet from popping certain tablets with a smiley face on |
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"I cock everything from frozen and I haven't died yet.
Lol the amount of people who say the same about meeting during covid is a remarkable parallel
"Oh I don't wear a mask distance or bother with that shit and I haven't died(said some wally on social media)
I do not know the full story
And I would not suggest going against the advice without first understanding the intricate reasoning why
The frozen whole chicken example to be roasted in my opinion should be an absolute no no
Put it in a slow cooker for a day well ill research it first but should be plausible
I honestly think "not died yet " is not evidence I'd use to follow
Bob on social media hasn't died yet from popping certain tablets with a smiley face on "
No true.
My food hygiene qualifications may give me an insight though |
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I would imagine it similar to having a snowball fight without gloves then getting home and dipping your hands into hot water. Not dangerous but would shock the meat. |
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