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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hmmm that’s a good question ! I think I’m probably leaning more towards the originals but sometimes remakes can add new visuals and effects which can be pretty cool |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They must run out of ideas film writers so keep going back and doing remakes the the EVIL DEAD was shite"
110% agreee on that one haha I even went to the cinema to see it.. |
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Mostly originals if I’d seen them first. They usually hold a lot of sentimentality for me which give bias.
Miracle on 34th street in b&w is equally good as it’s Dicky Attenborough remake though.
Total Recall was the worst remake ever. |
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"Mostly originals if I’d seen them first. They usually hold a lot of sentimentality for me which give bias.
Miracle on 34th street in b&w is equally good as it’s Dicky Attenborough remake though.
Total Recall was the worst remake ever. "
Think I watch about 10mins of Total Recall and switched over. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Currently watching Pride and Prejudice with Keira Knightly, and whiIst loved the BBC adaptation, I think I love this one even more (the music makes it for me). |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
Struggling to think of any remakes that are even on a par with the originals...only ones that spring to mind are:
Cape Fear
King Kong (the Jack Black version)
True Grit
Then there are "remakes" that take a concept and spin it like Batman or Plant Of The Apes or even the Daniel Craig Bond movies but not sure they're remakes as such as opposed to re-imaginations |
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Just finished watching ‘Dredd’ much better than the very dire ‘Judge Dredd’ with Sylvester Stallone.
However even great directors make mistakes with remakes, Coen Brothers Ladykillers for example.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I enjoyed the remake of A Star is Born. I liked Gaga and Bradley Cooper
I also enjoyed King Kong with Jack Black and Jumanji probably for the same reason albeit they aren’t the greatest films |
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"I enjoyed the remake of A Star is Born. I liked Gaga and Bradley Cooper
I also enjoyed King Kong with Jack Black and Jumanji probably for the same reason albeit they aren’t the greatest films "
Nothing to me will beat A Star is Born with Judy Garland. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"To be fair, some of the porno remakes are pretty good. Forrest Hump, etc.
Never seen any movie porno remakes "
There are some on pornhub, Not ‘good’ but often quite funny. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I enjoyed the remake of A Star is Born. I liked Gaga and Bradley Cooper
I also enjoyed King Kong with Jack Black and Jumanji probably for the same reason albeit they aren’t the greatest films
Nothing to me will beat A Star is Born with Judy Garland."
There’s actually four films of A Star is Born ! All pretty good but yes, Garland and Mason one is best. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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" Then there are "remakes" that take a concept and spin it like Batman or Plant Of The Apes or even the Daniel Craig Bond movies but not sure they're remakes as such as opposed to re-imaginations "
Reboots. Is what you are looking for.
Let's be sure to separate remakes, reboots, and re-imagining.
Reboots are used for a series of films that will carry a storyline or characters across the series, with changes that may be greatly different from the original but stay true to the source.
Remakes, which is the term used for a stand-alone film. Attempt to keep things as close to the original as possible. Changes, additions and editorials may happen.
Re-imagining is when they loosely remake a movie, such as Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven.
Sometimes reboots and re-imaginings will overlap.
Great remakes (or at least better than originals)
Homeward Bound
Ocean's Eleven
The Thing (1982 version)
The fly
The problem with most remakes is they try to remake (and fail) already good movies. Instead of looking at what movies that had good plots or premise but failed due to other reasons, and trying to make them better. |
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"I enjoyed the remake of A Star is Born. I liked Gaga and Bradley Cooper
I also enjoyed King Kong with Jack Black and Jumanji probably for the same reason albeit they aren’t the greatest films
Nothing to me will beat A Star is Born with Judy Garland.
There’s actually four films of A Star is Born ! All pretty good but yes, Garland and Mason one is best. "
It is my all time favourite film.x |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
" Then there are "remakes" that take a concept and spin it like Batman or Plant Of The Apes or even the Daniel Craig Bond movies but not sure they're remakes as such as opposed to re-imaginations
Reboots. Is what you are looking for.
Let's be sure to separate remakes, reboots, and re-imagining.
Reboots are used for a series of films that will carry a storyline or characters across the series, with changes that may be greatly different from the original but stay true to the source.
Remakes, which is the term used for a stand-alone film. Attempt to keep things as close to the original as possible. Changes, additions and editorials may happen.
Re-imagining is when they loosely remake a movie, such as Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven.
Sometimes reboots and re-imaginings will overlap.
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I stand corrected *tips hat*
In all honesty I plucked re-imagination from my errr imagination as it seemed to fit had never heard the term used technically before |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Can't remember any remake iv seen being better than the original"
Me neither.
Not any films I've enjoyed anyway.
How can Johnny wife beater Depp remake a Gene Wilder film?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just finished watching ‘Dredd’ much better than the very dire ‘Judge Dredd’ with Sylvester Stallone.
However even great directors make mistakes with remakes, Coen Brothers Ladykillers for example.
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Unfortunately Dredd wasnt a remake, but I agree was infinitely better than the first. Although it felt half arsed and like it started with half hour missing. A great shame because it had so much potential.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Thing.
Original was old and changed."
The 1982 thing was also not rebooted or remade. One film starts and actually overlaps the original. If you watch them in the correct order it was actually pretty good.
In general I agree though with the original point. Very few remakes are as good as the originals.
J
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The Thing.
Original was old and changed.
The 1982 thing was also not rebooted or remade. One film starts and actually overlaps the original. If you watch them in the correct order it was actually pretty good.
In general I agree though with the original point. Very few remakes are as good as the originals.
J
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The original was " The Thing from another world" . |
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Very rare a remake is better than the original, but there are few that were much better. The old Italian job was brilliant the new one not so.
The worst ones are the remake of a remake of a remake lol WTF |
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over a year ago
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Has to be said the Vince Vaughn re shoot of psycho was good. Think he was pretty good in the roll and just had something about him the way he played it.
First time I saw it I missed the very beginning and was confused as hell trying to work out what it actually was as it's literally an exact re shoot of the original. |
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"The Thing.
Original was old and changed.
The 1982 thing was also not rebooted or remade. One film starts and actually overlaps the original. If you watch them in the correct order it was actually pretty good.
In general I agree though with the original point. Very few remakes are as good as the originals.
J
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Point taken it’s a shame it didn’t reboot the character and become a series of films. Karl Urban is just great in the Boys so would’ve been interesting where he could take Dredd |
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"Can't remember any remake iv seen being better than the original
Me neither.
Not any films I've enjoyed anyway.
How can Johnny wife beater Depp remake a Gene Wilder film?
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Yeah I know I watched it today thats what got me thinking of remakes and how many have been so bad |
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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago
London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact |
Ocean's Eleven
Dawn of the Dead
Jumanji with Duane Johnson and Kevin Hart was pleasantly surprising. Wasn't a huge fan of the original and went in with low expectations of the modern version as I'm not really the target audience for a family film. Both newer versions are equally enjoyable. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"Ocean's Eleven
Dawn of the Dead
Jumanji with Duane Johnson and Kevin Hart was pleasantly surprising. Wasn't a huge fan of the original and went in with low expectations of the modern version as I'm not really the target audience for a family film. Both newer versions are equally enjoyable. "
Technically the newer Jumanji movie is a sequel (which then got its own sequel) |
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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago
London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact |
"Ocean's Eleven
Dawn of the Dead
Jumanji with Duane Johnson and Kevin Hart was pleasantly surprising. Wasn't a huge fan of the original and went in with low expectations of the modern version as I'm not really the target audience for a family film. Both newer versions are equally enjoyable.
Technically the newer Jumanji movie is a sequel (which then got its own sequel) "
Still... Good though innit! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I separate old films from new ones, even with the Italian job or point break, I don't consider the new ones a remake, it's just a loosely attached similar theme. I enjoy them both that way. I think a lot of people ruin new films for themselves expecting a film they are seeing through adult eyes, created in a higher tech industry by different people to capture them just like it did when they were younger or as a kid. It can't, you have to treat the new as something new.
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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago
London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact |
"I separate old films from new ones, even with the Italian job or point break, I don't consider the new ones a remake, it's just a loosely attached similar theme. I enjoy them both that way. I think a lot of people ruin new films for themselves expecting a film they are seeing through adult eyes, created in a higher tech industry by different people to capture them just like it did when they were younger or as a kid. It can't, you have to treat the new as something new.
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I think the problem is that modern versions appear too slick and soulless. You lose a lot from this. CGI is now so advanced we are no longer easily amazed. Whereas the earlier films utilising stunt work still seems impressive, in my view. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"I separate old films from new ones, even with the Italian job or point break, I don't consider the new ones a remake, it's just a loosely attached similar theme. I enjoy them both that way. I think a lot of people ruin new films for themselves expecting a film they are seeing through adult eyes, created in a higher tech industry by different people to capture them just like it did when they were younger or as a kid. It can't, you have to treat the new as something new.
I think the problem is that modern versions appear too slick and soulless. You lose a lot from this. CGI is now so advanced we are no longer easily amazed. Whereas the earlier films utilising stunt work still seems impressive, in my view. "
Its a double edged sword really.
In theory the newer movies should be far superior. The ground work is there from what came before. The technology and cinematography much more advanced. And yet they fail.
The largest issue with a failure in newer movies, especially remakes is stuido involvement. They get far too involved in too many aspects that they really shouldn't. Focus groups too, they cause far too many things to get changed - seriously you should see some of the stuff they come up with that they dislike.
People shit on cgi, and yes quite often it can come across as souless but lots of techniques are poorly executed mixed in with just poor scripts, poor casting etc. Take a look at corridor crew on YouTube, their insights in to cgi allow you to see cgi with the respect it deserves.
The majority of scenes in movies have cgi in them that people don't even know is there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Most classic originals cannot be matched by remakes due to their cast, directors, and of course the era they were made in (target audience). Others were never all that in the first place and leave ample room for improvement.
When a sufficient time period has passed, you end up in a situation where you have a different generation to entertain in a world with changed expectations. In these cases reboots have proven to be successful.
Either way, it takes a good director with a creative imagination and vision to improve upon an original or to make it fit in with modern world.
Some big scale films do benefit from the availability modern special effects, but as we've that alone won't be the winning formula.
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Anyone recommend a good series to watch just finished watching Manifest series 1 & 2 3rd is coming later this year.
Have seen,
Bones
Lethal Weapon
Breaking Bad
Lucifer
Homecoming
Hannibal
Forever
Limitless
Taken
Jack Ryan
Cobra Kai
Haven't seen Game of Thrones yet on the list at some point.
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"Anyone recommend a good series to watch just finished watching Manifest series 1 & 2 3rd is coming later this year.
Have seen,
Bones
Lethal Weapon
Breaking Bad
Lucifer
Homecoming
Hannibal
Forever
Limitless
Taken
Jack Ryan
Cobra Kai
Haven't seen Game of Thrones yet on the list at some point.
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Sense8
The Expanse
Altered Carbon
Preacher
Halt and catch fire
Mr Robot
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"Anyone recommend a good series to watch just finished watching Manifest series 1 & 2 3rd is coming later this year.
Have seen,
Bones
Lethal Weapon
Breaking Bad
Lucifer
Homecoming
Hannibal
Forever
Limitless
Taken
Jack Ryan
Cobra Kai
Haven't seen Game of Thrones yet on the list at some point.
Sense8
The Expanse
Altered Carbon
Preacher
Halt and catch fire
Mr Robot
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Thanks
Will look into some of them |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
Edmonton |
Not sure if this counts but I say it.I grew up watching Sherlock Holmes films starring Basil Rathbone these films were made late 1930’s - 1940’s and were often repeated during the 1970’s - 1980’s there have been various remakes over the years but for me you can’t beat Basil Rathbone as Sherlock Holmes and those black and white films |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
Edmonton |
"Didn’t they try and remake minder staring Shane Ritchie? You’d never be able to top George Cole and Dennis Waterman " . They did and it was crap.They also did The Sweeney as much as I like Ray Winston he is no John Thaw |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
Edmonton |
"They did and it was crap.They also did The Sweeney as much as I like Ray Winston he is no John Thaw
can you imagine ray winston as inspector morse? " . I can’t see him pulling that one off either |
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