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Tessa Sanderson,Sharon Davies
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In the early 80 we had a charity swimothon Sharon davis was the celebrity when we had done are laps she presented us with a medal when she bent down to put around my neck I kissed her full on the lips still remember it I blame her for sending me on this path  . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sharon Davies is another transphobic person "
Maybe the trans activists threatening her children will force her to fall in line with your expectations?
Bess x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"She should keep her transphobic opinions to herself but I agree that nobody should be threatened for them.
Likewise Jkr"
Saying that trans women have the advantage of male puberty and shouldn't compete with women isn't transphobic.
And this isn't Twitter, you can't shout transphobic to shut dissenters up. |
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"Sharon Davies is another transphobic person "
No she's not, she just wants to protect womens spaces for women.
Trans people are not the sex they pretend to be, name calling doesn't make her wrong.
At no point has she attacked trans people, just wants to rightly protect women & girls spaces. |
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"She should keep her transphobic opinions to herself but I agree that nobody should be threatened for them.
Likewise Jkr"
You mean she shouldnt stand in the way of men in dresses going into women's spaces. Right aren't I.
I,d definitely stand in their way so feel free to call me names but it cuts no ice with me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well I'm sure that a number of excluded trans women from competing in sport would disagree with you last person.
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But, they're not excluded from competing. That's simply hyperbole. They're excluded from competing with the opposite sex. |
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"Well I'm sure that a number of excluded trans women from competing in sport would disagree with you last person.
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But the majority don't care for men taking part in women's sport just because it'll make them feel included, I hated losing any sports contest but would never cheat. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So protecting women and their spaces isn't being discriminatory and inferring that trans people are a danger to them
That's insulting to say the least "
Trans women are biologically men. There are safeguards to protect women in single sex spaces. It doesn't mean that all men or all trans women are a danger. It's simply safeguarding so women can retain safety, dignity and privacy in private spaces. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ive met both when I was younger on blue Peter. Tessa was OK but unfortunately Sharon Davies is not a nice person. She said I bet you don't know who I am because you are not a swimmer, if you were, you wouldn't be so fat. |
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Trans women aren't cheats which is why they go to great lengths to be accepted.
If you look back in time to when the use of anabolic steroids was used by East European athletes I'd say that was cheating but I don't draw the comparison with trans women competing in sport now.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Trans women aren't cheats which is why they go to great lengths to be accepted.
If you look back in time to when the use of anabolic steroids was used by East European athletes I'd say that was cheating but I don't draw the comparison with trans women competing in sport now.
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Science disagrees with you.
Hilton, E.N., Lundberg, T.R. Transgender Women in the Female Category of Sport: Perspectives on Testosterone Suppression and Performance Advantage. Sports Med 51, 199–214 (2021).
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"Trans women aren't cheats which is why they go to great lengths to be accepted.
If you look back in time to when the use of anabolic steroids was used by East European athletes I'd say that was cheating but I don't draw the comparison with trans women competing in sport now.
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No one called trams women cheats, but they have a hormonal and developmental background that gives them an advantage. Like it or not, it's the case.
Female athletics is for those born females. End of. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think tarring all trans women with the same brush to allegedly safeguard women's safety is decidedly controversial if not absolutely bigoted."
You're choosing to ignore what I've said. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"She should keep her transphobic opinions to herself but I agree that nobody should be threatened for them.
Likewise Jkr"
Why not try practicing what you preach. Not everyone wants to hear your opinions either |
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"Trans women aren't cheats which is why they go to great lengths to be accepted.
If you look back in time to when the use of anabolic steroids was used by East European athletes I'd say that was cheating but I don't draw the comparison with trans women competing in sport now.
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I,ll let you carry on now in your deluded world as its pointless, being a man in a woman's sport is an unfair advantage (cheating) unless darts or snooker etc.
These men are called trans woman because they are men in all but usually grotesque appearence.
The majority of this country know this and feel the same, our failure as a county to not support mental illness enough has led to this very vociferous 1% & their bleeding heart friends trying to make us all join the pretend game.
You can attack and ruin celebrity careers but I,m untouchable as most of us are.
Fill your boots. |
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"Trans women aren't cheats which is why they go to great lengths to be accepted.
If you look back in time to when the use of anabolic steroids was used by East European athletes I'd say that was cheating but I don't draw the comparison with trans women competing in sport now.
No one called trams women cheats, but they have a hormonal and developmental background that gives them an advantage. Like it or not, it's the case.
Female athletics is for those born females. End of."
I did. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Trans women aren't cheats which is why they go to great lengths to be accepted.
If you look back in time to when the use of anabolic steroids was used by East European athletes I'd say that was cheating but I don't draw the comparison with trans women competing in sport now.
I,ll let you carry on now in your deluded world as its pointless, being a man in a woman's sport is an unfair advantage (cheating) unless darts or snooker etc.
These men are called trans woman because they are men in all but usually grotesque appearence.
The majority of this country know this and feel the same, our failure as a county to not support mental illness enough has led to this very vociferous 1% & their bleeding heart friends trying to make us all join the pretend game.
You can attack and ruin celebrity careers but I,m untouchable as most of us are.
Fill your boots. "
You're being unnecessarily hurtful IMO. No need to use words like grotesque. |
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"Trans women aren't cheats which is why they go to great lengths to be accepted.
If you look back in time to when the use of anabolic steroids was used by East European athletes I'd say that was cheating but I don't draw the comparison with trans women competing in sport now.
No one called trams women cheats, but they have a hormonal and developmental background that gives them an advantage. Like it or not, it's the case.
Female athletics is for those born females. End of.
I did. "
Ok, I didn't, then 
There is still no place for trans athletes in women sport, chwaring or not. I think we can agree on that |
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Well I'm certainly not going to agree with the view that trans women are trying to gain an unfair advantage.
The sports governing bodies seem to have sided with you but it's not a cut and dried issue.
Simply that so called medical experts have had their way.
As for biology how can a trans women who's undergone surgery be a danger to womens spaces?
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"Well I'm certainly not going to agree with the view that trans women are trying to gain an unfair advantage.
The sports governing bodies seem to have sided with you but it's not a cut and dried issue.
Simply that so called medical experts have had their way.
As for biology how can a trans women who's undergone surgery be a danger to womens spaces?
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I wasn't talking to you, but if you don't want to say anything more about it, why the hell did you dig it up? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well I'm certainly not going to agree with the view that trans women are trying to gain an unfair advantage.
The sports governing bodies seem to have sided with you but it's not a cut and dried issue.
Simply that so called medical experts have had their way.
As for biology how can a trans women who's undergone surgery be a danger to womens spaces?
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They were no good in their chosen sport as men so took the decision to compete against women so they could be better than most women in that sport.
Try to defend it all you want but it’s biological men competing against women. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well I'm certainly not going to agree with the view that trans women are trying to gain an unfair advantage.
The sports governing bodies seem to have sided with you but it's not a cut and dried issue.
Simply that so called medical experts have had their way.
As for biology how can a trans women who's undergone surgery be a danger to womens spaces?
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The vast majority of trans women do not undergo surgery. And yes, I think medical experts and scientist "having their way" is correct. Trans women do have an unfair advantage if they've gone through male puberty. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well I'm certainly not going to agree with the view that trans women are trying to gain an unfair advantage.
The sports governing bodies seem to have sided with you but it's not a cut and dried issue.
Simply that so called medical experts have had their way.
As for biology how can a trans women who's undergone surgery be a danger to womens spaces?
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Do you class yourself as trans? |
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"Sharron looks like a man!! Yet hates trans???? Go figure "
You need to go to specsavers, the growler between her legs & ovaries determines her sex & gender.
She never once said she hates Trans either, women for so many years were undervalued & fought for equal rights & now men (in dresses) want to undermine them.
Fair? Go figure. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sally forth seems to have done an indepth study of who does or doesn't undergo gender reassignment.lol"
I've just done the reading you clearly haven't. |
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"Just seen an all stars Tenable possibly filmed a while ago , I have to say both these former champion athletes are looking fabulously beautiful ! "
Eye of the beholder I guess
In regards to Tessa .Sharon in her day yes . last time I saw her she was looking old .much like myself to others lol. |
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"Well it's pretty obvious last person that you have no idea about why people choose a different gender and your bigotry is also plain to see "
Honestly, give it a rest with the bigotry comments. No one is being bigot no matter how much you try to incite |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
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"Well I'm certainly not going to agree with the view that trans women are trying to gain an unfair advantage.
The sports governing bodies seem to have sided with you but it's not a cut and dried issue.
Simply that so called medical experts have had their way.
As for biology how can a trans women who's undergone surgery be a danger to womens spaces?
The vast majority of trans women do not undergo surgery. And yes, I think medical experts and scientist "having their way" is correct. Trans women do have an unfair advantage if they've gone through male puberty. "
The broken records in women's sports attest to this advantage too . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Am all for trans rights. But this denial that males to transwoman don't have a unfair advantage is ludicrous.
Studies have shown males start gaining physiological advantages even well before puberty.
No amount of hormone therapy can even up these advantages, because testosterone is only a part of the overall advantages. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well it's pretty obvious last person that you have no idea about why people choose a different gender and your bigotry is also plain to see "
If you use the Reply + quote button we will know which post/ person you are referring to. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Nastiness adds nothing to the debate ,informed opinion, choices ,its all there , cant we all just get along? These forum posts have been going round in circles for ages ,l'm sure there is a common ground. Burger king near lincoln had unisex loos only ,shall we start on that chestnut again? |
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"An interesting point last person but if you saw the French ladies world cup captain you'd be hard pressed to say she didn't have a physical advantage over a number of men "
She's an elite sports woman. That's kinda the point |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Changing the subject slightly I'm passionate about women's football and I think it's grossly undervalued by education authorities especially "
I agree with you there, Maria! I've never played but my daughter has. |
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Point being travelling person is that trans women aren't necessarily gaining a physical advantage over some genetic women who are as you say professional athletes such as the French ladies football captain. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nastiness adds nothing to the debate ,informed opinion, choices ,its all there , cant we all just get along? These forum posts have been going round in circles for ages ,l'm sure there is a common ground. Burger king near lincoln had unisex loos only ,shall we start on that chestnut again?"
I'd support more single person unisex toilets. I think they're a great solution as long as they're lockable and floor to ceiling. I've seen these in a few places.  |
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Unisex toilets make sense because trans women don't feel safe being told to use men's toilets.
In the US this has been a controversial debate and especially a problem in the deep south Bible belt where beliefs are shall we say somewhat delusional |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Point being travelling person is that trans women aren't necessarily gaining a physical advantage over some genetic women who are as you say professional athletes such as the French ladies football captain."
Science disagrees with you, Maria. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Unisex toilets make sense because trans women don't feel safe being told to use men's toilets.
In the US this has been a controversial debate and especially a problem in the deep south Bible belt where beliefs are shall we say somewhat delusional "
I think if done well, they make sense for everyone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm not a scientist but I see injustice and discrimination "
Injustices to the women who have worked hard all their lives to get to that certain point only to have a man come in and make all their hard work worthless?
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"Point being travelling person is that trans women aren't necessarily gaining a physical advantage over some genetic women who are as you say professional athletes such as the French ladies football captain."
Demands respect, can't even quote me or say my name
Do you think a trans athlete who has an interest in female sport would go into it with no competitive background? The USA ladies team were beaten by an U15 boys club team 4-2, demonstrating the value of male puberty in sports. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Unisex toilets make sense because trans women don't feel safe being told to use men's toilets.
In the US this has been a controversial debate and especially a problem in the deep south Bible belt where beliefs are shall we say somewhat delusional "
What do you mean unisex toilets? |
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Well it's pretty clear as to who has the most closed minded and bigoted views in this forum.
Those who do not support trans rights and see trans women as men in dresses should crawl back under the stones they came from as they are obviously not in touch with LGBTQ issues |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Unisex toilets make sense because trans women don't feel safe being told to use men's toilets.
In the US this has been a controversial debate and especially a problem in the deep south Bible belt where beliefs are shall we say somewhat delusional "
When you cut a dogs balls off does that make it a female dog? Or should that be a trans dog? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well it's pretty clear as to who has the most closed minded and bigoted views in this forum.
Those who do not support trans rights and see trans women as men in dresses should crawl back under the stones they came from as they are obviously not in touch with LGBTQ issues "
Or don’t want to be |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well it's pretty clear as to who has the most closed minded and bigoted views in this forum.
Those who do not support trans rights and see trans women as men in dresses should crawl back under the stones they came from as they are obviously not in touch with LGBTQ issues "
It's disappointing that you've just called people names repeatedly. |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
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"Unisex toilets make sense because trans women don't feel safe being told to use men's toilets.
In the US this has been a controversial debate and especially a problem in the deep south Bible belt where beliefs are shall we say somewhat delusional
What do you mean unisex toilets? "
Unisex toilets are becoming common in most universities and companies . Instead of a men's/ women's room with several toilets and urinals, you often find a short corridor with individual rooms containing a toilet and sink .
No litter trays for the furries tho . |
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"I'm all in favour of women's rights and against discrimination but all this talk about trans people is making me think twice about who's being discriminated against."
Both? |
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"Sharon Davies is another transphobic person
No she's not, she just wants to protect womens spaces for women.
Trans people are not the sex they pretend to be, name calling doesn't make her wrong.
Totally agree
At no point has she attacked trans people, just wants to rightly protect women & girls spaces. "
Totally agree |
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"Well it's pretty clear as to who has the most closed minded and bigoted views in this forum.
Those who do not support trans rights and see trans women as men in dresses should crawl back under the stones they came from as they are obviously not in touch with LGBTQ issues "
You've got a proper chip on your shoulder. |
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