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Art imo.
He's awesome!
The woman who owns the house he most recently "vandalized" has just decided to pull out of her 300 grand house sale...she's obviously not too upset 
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I think the whole mystery about who he is and his thing of having art mysteriously appear overnight is just gimmick. If you forget about that and just treat him as any other artist I really don't see what all the fuss is about. Luke |
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Depends which way you look at it. If he decided to rock up and spray something on my house I would be chuffed to be bits.
If it was some Banksy inspired wannabe spraying the word some badly spelled swear words on my house not so much.
I think their is a distinct difference between art and normal vandalism. |
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"I think the whole mystery about who he is and his thing of having art mysteriously appear overnight is just gimmick. If you forget about that and just treat him as any other artist I really don't see what all the fuss is about. Luke "
I agree, modern art is just PR and critic BS.
This is superbly shown for all it's shallowness and pomposity in Tony Hancock's movie The Rebel |
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"Depends which way you look at it. If he decided to rock up and spray something on my house I would be chuffed to be bits.
If it was some Banksy inspired wannabe spraying the word some badly spelled swear words on my house not so much.
I think their is a distinct difference between art and normal vandalism. "
Really! So, if you'd never heard of Banksy and you'd woken up to find he'd spray painted the side of your house you'd still be overjoyed? |
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"Depends which way you look at it. If he decided to rock up and spray something on my house I would be chuffed to be bits.
If it was some Banksy inspired wannabe spraying the word some badly spelled swear words on my house not so much.
I think their is a distinct difference between art and normal vandalism.
Really! So, if you'd never heard of Banksy and you'd woken up to find he'd spray painted the side of your house you'd still be overjoyed?"
I would!
But the I'd be chuffed if someone sprayed a spunking cock on the wall...its all fun innit, lives up the street
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over a year ago
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Depends what resonates with you personally - if Banksy painted something in my house that I thought was a bit shit, then I wouldn’t be happy. If an unknown painted something beautiful, then I’d love it. It depends |
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"Depends which way you look at it. If he decided to rock up and spray something on my house I would be chuffed to be bits.
If it was some Banksy inspired wannabe spraying the word some badly spelled swear words on my house not so much.
I think their is a distinct difference between art and normal vandalism.
Really! So, if you'd never heard of Banksy and you'd woken up to find he'd spray painted the side of your house you'd still be overjoyed?"
I have heard of Banksy though. |
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In the unlikely event that Banksy daubed our house I'd be very happy. I'd be furious if it was anyone else.
I'm very well aware that it's the monetary value of a "Banksy" that's behind my thinking. |
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Whatever his motives, artist or vandal it's served him well financially, he's worth a packet! Fair play & good luck to the guy, wish I'd thought of it first  |
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"In the unlikely event that Banksy daubed our house I'd be very happy. I'd be furious if it was anyone else.
I'm very well aware that it's the monetary value of a "Banksy" that's behind my thinking."
This! |
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In the eyes of the law a vandal, hence why no one knows who he is.
In my eyes a genius, personally I like his work, I have seen many pieces over the years, they put a smile on my face. Which is what good art is meant to do... it’s meant to make you fee, move you in some way, trigger something inside, arouse the curiosity.
One of my favourite prices was a wheel clamp of a chariot statue in London, forget the exact location but spotted it as I was driving through
He raises issues in a subtle way
I loved the picture that self shredded at auction, why should people make money off his work |
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"Depends which way you look at it. If he decided to rock up and spray something on my house I would be chuffed to be bits.
If it was some Banksy inspired wannabe spraying the word some badly spelled swear words on my house not so much.
I think their is a distinct difference between art and normal vandalism.
Really! So, if you'd never heard of Banksy and you'd woken up to find he'd spray painted the side of your house you'd still be overjoyed?
I have heard of Banksy though. "
So a "talented" literate nobody spray painted the side of your house you'd be happy? |
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"In the eyes of the law a vandal, hence why no one knows who he is.
In my eyes a genius, personally I like his work, I have seen many pieces over the years, they put a smile on my face. Which is what good art is meant to do... it’s meant to make you fee, move you in some way, trigger something inside, arouse the curiosity.
One of my favourite prices was a wheel clamp of a chariot statue in London, forget the exact location but spotted it as I was driving through
He raises issues in a subtle way
I loved the picture that self shredded at auction, why should people make money off his work "
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"Depends which way you look at it. If he decided to rock up and spray something on my house I would be chuffed to be bits.
If it was some Banksy inspired wannabe spraying the word some badly spelled swear words on my house not so much.
I think their is a distinct difference between art and normal vandalism.
Really! So, if you'd never heard of Banksy and you'd woken up to find he'd spray painted the side of your house you'd still be overjoyed?
I have heard of Banksy though.
So a "talented" literate nobody spray painted the side of your house you'd be happy?"
If Banksy did yes. Sell it and see you later. |
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"Depends which way you look at it. If he decided to rock up and spray something on my house I would be chuffed to be bits.
If it was some Banksy inspired wannabe spraying the word some badly spelled swear words on my house not so much.
I think their is a distinct difference between art and normal vandalism.
Really! So, if you'd never heard of Banksy and you'd woken up to find he'd spray painted the side of your house you'd still be overjoyed?
I have heard of Banksy though. "
I've heard of japanese knot , but I would want that on the side if my house |
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"If I did it, it would be vandalism, why is he different "
Because of art critics and dealers, who Tom Keating described as east end boys in west end suits! |
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"Definitely a vandal."
So if you woke up to find Banksy had put a piece of his work on the side of your house overnight, you'd grab the emulsion and paint it over? Somehow I doubt it  |
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"Street Art
We should encourage it and have designated areas for it
I find it fascinating
I find it incredibly ugly"
There are designated areas for it in some cities
Arists get to exhibit their work for a given period and after that period, the wall is given a base coat and another artist can exhibit in that space
It cuts down on random daubings and those that do appreciate it have an ever changing gallery to view |
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"Street Art
We should encourage it and have designated areas for it
I find it fascinating"
I agree
Art is subjective...
If you don't like it, doesn't mean it's shit.
The fact he has millions of fans and supporters shows you that!
Might bit be some elaborate oil painting but it's still art and deserves to be seen and appreciated by those who enjoy it.
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It should not have designated areas.
That takes away ownership and statement.
A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled.
Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen.....
No. No Control on artists. |
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"It should not have designated areas.
That takes away ownership and statement.
A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled.
Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen.....
No. No Control on artists. "
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"It should not have designated areas.
That takes away ownership and statement.
A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled.
Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen.....
No. No Control on artists. "
Fair point Granny
The designated zones do 'cut down' but don't eliminate
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We'd be lost without art and I love Banksys work but let's face it..... Art is a racket ...a posh racket but nevertheless a racket.
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"It should not have designated areas.
That takes away ownership and statement.
A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled.
Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen.....
No. No Control on artists. "
I'm comming to paint a big penis on the front of your house tonight granny |
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"It should not have designated areas.
That takes away ownership and statement.
A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled.
Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen.....
No. No Control on artists. "
So we need graffiti artists ..
Solves the problem.. |
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"We'd be lost without art and I love Banksys work but let's face it..... Art is a racket ...a posh racket but nevertheless a racket.
In my opinion disclaimer etc "
The amount of "suspected" forgeries in galleries and museums throughout the world is apparently huge and the do called experts know so too, a complete racket. |
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"We'd be lost without art and I love Banksys work but let's face it..... Art is a racket ...a posh racket but nevertheless a racket.
In my opinion disclaimer etc
The amount of "suspected" forgeries in galleries and museums throughout the world is apparently huge and the do called experts know so too, a complete racket."
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"Art imo.
He's awesome!
The woman who owns the house he most recently "vandalized" has just decided to pull out of her 300 grand house sale...she's obviously not too upset
Lu "
I've just seen the article it's saying that the property is now worth between 3 to 5 million |
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"Art imo.
He's awesome!
The woman who owns the house he most recently "vandalized" has just decided to pull out of her 300 grand house sale...she's obviously not too upset
Lu
I've just seen the article it's saying that the property is now worth between 3 to 5 million "
It's what some oaf is prepared to pay.. |
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"Art imo.
He's awesome!
The woman who owns the house he most recently "vandalized" has just decided to pull out of her 300 grand house sale...she's obviously not too upset
Lu
I've just seen the article it's saying that the property is now worth between 3 to 5 million
It's what some oaf is prepared to pay.. "
I'd paint over it just to piss the arty fuckers off, magnolia |
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I can't see why it would incease the price of her property 10 fold but people would pay it.
And much as I enjoy his topical artistry its still unlawful graffiti and vandalism albeit from a recognised and talented artist.
I have to admit I do enjoy his style. Almost like a special forces artist. Sneak in, do the job, leave your mark and get out. And no one knows who you are! |
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"I can't see why it would incease the price of her property 10 fold but people would pay it.
And much as I enjoy his topical artistry its still unlawful graffiti and vandalism albeit from a recognised and talented artist.
I have to admit I do enjoy his style. Almost like a special forces artist. Sneak in, do the job, leave your mark and get out. And no one knows who you are!"
Most of it looks stencilled to me.. lazy art |
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"I can't see why it would incease the price of her property 10 fold but people would pay it.
And much as I enjoy his topical artistry its still unlawful graffiti and vandalism albeit from a recognised and talented artist.
I have to admit I do enjoy his style. Almost like a special forces artist. Sneak in, do the job, leave your mark and get out. And no one knows who you are!
Most of it looks stencilled to me.. lazy art "
Lazy vandal |
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"I can't see why it would incease the price of her property 10 fold but people would pay it.
And much as I enjoy his topical artistry its still unlawful graffiti and vandalism albeit from a recognised and talented artist.
I have to admit I do enjoy his style. Almost like a special forces artist. Sneak in, do the job, leave your mark and get out. And no one knows who you are!
Most of it looks stencilled to me.. lazy art "
I'm inclined to think so too. It would take far too long otherwise.
Still, he has to design and produce that stencil and come up with the idea in the first place.
I do admire his stealth like technique |
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Personally I don’t get all the hype about Banksy. I don’t think his stuff is that good and he claims to be a rebel and antiestablishment. In reality though it’s all PR and the dude is making a fortune and no doubt living the life his ‘art’ suggests he despises.
If he vandalised my property I’d want to remove it but in reality I would sell it for sure |
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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago
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"It should not have designated areas.
That takes away ownership and statement.
A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled.
Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen.....
No. No Control on artists.
I'm comming to paint a big penis on the front of your house tonight granny "
I want to say "self portrait" but I fear it may be misinterpreted. 
Ah, Got it 
Has, not is.
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"It should not have designated areas.
That takes away ownership and statement.
A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled.
Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen.....
No. No Control on artists.
I'm comming to paint a big penis on the front of your house tonight granny "
Ya gotta love a self portrait Dash. x |
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"It should not have designated areas.
That takes away ownership and statement.
A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled.
Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen.....
No. No Control on artists.
I'm comming to paint a big penis on the front of your house tonight granny
Ya gotta love a self portrait Dash. x"
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"Personally I don’t get all the hype about Banksy. I don’t think his stuff is that good and he claims to be a rebel and antiestablishment. In reality though it’s all PR and the dude is making a fortune and no doubt living the life his ‘art’ suggests he despises.
If he vandalised my property I’d want to remove it but in reality I would sell it for sure"
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"In the eyes of the law a vandal, hence why no one knows who he is.
In my eyes a genius, personally I like his work, I have seen many pieces over the years, they put a smile on my face. Which is what good art is meant to do... it’s meant to make you fee, move you in some way, trigger something inside, arouse the curiosity.
One of my favourite prices was a wheel clamp of a chariot statue in London, forget the exact location but spotted it as I was driving through
He raises issues in a subtle way
I loved the picture that self shredded at auction, why should people make money off his work "
As one of the functions of art is to make us think, why shouldn't someone make money from his art? I'm guessing that he does. |
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Love his work, it can be fun and topical. I do go to art galleries and admire the great works, but also love the fact his is available on the street to be seen by anyone.
I get why others disagree and maybe I see graffiti in a different way, some of it is very clever and artistic and other ...not so. However for me I am always happy to see his work pop up on my news feed |
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I bloody love street art. I'm fortunate that my current home town has heaps of street art by some great artists: Mr Penfold, Ben Eine, Dotmasters, Fanakapan and loads of others.
Not all of it is to my taste (there isn't a gallery on the planet where every piece inside is to my taste), but it's accessible to people who wouldn't dream of setting foot in a gallery and most of it has something interesting to say about the local area.
Who is to say that vandalism can't be art? |
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I love street art.
There's a huge difference between someone mindlessly tagging their name on random stuff and someone creating an actual piece of street art.
Have a look at the Secretary Bird in Liverpool. I pass that every day and every day it makes me smile.
Wonderful.
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His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days? |
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"His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days?"
Oh just lol is that Banksy?
So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude |
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"His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days?
Oh just lol is that Banksy?
So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude "
What’s wrong with being white and middle class? |
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"His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days?
Oh just lol is that Banksy?
So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude
What’s wrong with being white and middle class? "
They were my target audience for stencils on canvas. |
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"His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days?
Oh just lol is that Banksy?
So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude
What’s wrong with being white and middle class? "
White middle class lives matter |
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"His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days?
Oh just lol is that Banksy?
So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude
What’s wrong with being white and middle class? "
Nothing.
If you don't get the irony then its a pointless conversation. |
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"His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days?
Oh just lol is that Banksy?
So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude
What’s wrong with being white and middle class?
White middle class lives matter "
They always have, no news there |
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"It gets you thinking and it gets you talking about it. Fairly much sums up modern art.
Sheep in formaldehyde sums up modern art..... Shite"
Shite to some or a million pound mastpeice to others.
An unmade bed ? Whats that all about. It gets you talking and creates reactions. |
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Oh just lol is that Banksy?
So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude
What’s wrong with being white and middle class?
Nothing.
If you don't get the irony then its a pointless conversation."
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There's loads more better artists than Banksey that use free hand and not stencils..these guys/girls have far more talent...to grab a can of spray paint or 2 cans and just start a picture from the mind to produce mind blowing art..that's some thing special...check out all this Artwork online...from train carriages in America to muriels of celebrated people. Goldie used to be a graffiti artist before he was a musician...amazing in both!!  |
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"It's hardly work I m o
Define work then tom ..........
I'd say its sneaking up on someone's house unbeknownst to them and defacing their wall... Yes? "
Well ...... acksherlly it's known to them but its still work innit |
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"It gets you thinking and it gets you talking about it. Fairly much sums up modern art.
Sheep in formaldehyde sums up modern art..... Shite
Shite to some or a million pound mastpeice to others.
An unmade bed ? Whats that all about. It gets you talking and creates reactions."
Pile of bricks is a pile of bricks,pay a million for them and that's when it's art, too much money and no sense |
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"There's loads more better artists than Banksey that use free hand and not stencils..these guys/girls have far more talent...to grab a can of spray paint or 2 cans and just start a picture from the mind to produce mind blowing art..that's some thing special...check out all this Artwork online...from train carriages in America to muriels of celebrated people. Goldie used to be a graffiti artist before he was a musician...amazing in both!! "
Muriels........ |
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"It's hardly work I m o
Define work then tom ..........
I'd say its sneaking up on someone's house unbeknownst to them and defacing their wall... Yes?
Well ...... acksherlly it's known to them but its still work innit "
They know? He didn't tell me when he stencilled 'dash you cunt' on my wall... How rude |
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"Not irony. Most stencilers I know are white and middle class. "
I don't know enough about Banksy or his work.
For me it's just another example of 'art' appealing to a load of white middle aged people that have spare money to spend on stencils.
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"Define art."
It’s the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power. |
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Well thank you for the capital letter correction Granny Crumpet...love crumpets with lashings of butter
What Banksey has done is to open peoples minds to street art and not just to see it as vandalism...although I would rather see a beautiful work of art that let's you see the passion involved rather that just a tag on some thing..(a tag been just initials)
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"Define art.
It provokes and challenges.
Good thread.
Rubbish, so the definition of art is it provokes conversation on a swingers forum "
You know of any creative concept that has a singular definition?
That's simply one. A pertinent one for here and now.  |
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"Define art.
It provokes and challenges.
Good thread.
Rubbish, so the definition of art is it provokes conversation on a swingers forum "
Oh dear, try thinking before you type Dash |
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"Stencils? So he cheats then 
A lot of work goes into making the stencil.
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I'll have a look into that I'd never considered it was anything other than free hand. |
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"Define art.
It provokes and challenges.
Good thread.
Rubbish, so the definition of art is it provokes conversation on a swingers forum
Oh dear, try thinking before you type Dash"
Naaaaaa that's not fun |
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I lot of different views, some critical ?
I wonder what he thinks about swinging sites and all that follows ?
My view a very clever talented man...
His work has had some very powerful meanings, a lot of people don’t I feel understand it, but as many would not what this is all about (swinging )
Genius
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"Stencils? So he cheats then
How do you cheat with art?
Is 'art' just about the skills of the artist, or about the concept and the feelings or thoughts that it provokes in the observer?"
Cheating at graffiti, should be done furtively under a railway arch, just you and your can of paint, distant sound of cop cars. His stuff is more installation art though I guess. Just installed up walls |
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"His "vandalism" is sort of the equivalent of someone putting your windows through will gold bars. It's rather hard to complain much when it earns you a fuckton of cash."
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"I think the whole mystery about who he is and his thing of having art mysteriously appear overnight is just gimmick. If you forget about that and just treat him as any other artist I really don't see what all the fuss is about. Luke "
I agree. Used to be really into it, then realised all the people before him thats he’s ripped. Take the mystery away (which I do believe is all a gimmick as well) then it’s pretty boring. |
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"I lot of different views, some critical ?
I wonder what he thinks about swinging sites and all that follows ?
My view a very clever talented man...
His work has had some very powerful meanings, a lot of people don’t I feel understand it, but as many would not what this is all about (swinging )
Genius
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Powerful meanings..
Hahahaha |
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"I lot of different views, some critical ?
I wonder what he thinks about swinging sites and all that follows ?
My view a very clever talented man...
His work has had some very powerful meanings, a lot of people don’t I feel understand it, but as many would not what this is all about (swinging )
Genius
Powerful meanings..
Hahahaha"
Paint them toe nails ( Ahahaha ) yuk
https://www.instagram.com/p/BgXSA__Dn4N/?igshid=145xn4qmt5c8b
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BgXV5DtjyZc/?igshid=183n18ej9cmww
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I'd prefer him to paint where the public wouldn't see it, so my walls didn't get obliterated with someone trying to steal it.
I admire him and his work to highlight the issues that he does. He deserves to have profited from it, rather than scavengers |
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