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"No it cannot be ‘passed on’. If she’s comfortable with being touched then fine. Her body, her choice " she is comfortable she likes her breast played with | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on " Try looking at the NHS website. | |||
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"There is zero risk whatsoever of catching cancer by having sex with anyone who has had breast cancer or any other cancer Derek. You should always make sure you're protected from the usual STI's as you would with anyone you have sex with.we both get tested I take how she is Just be nice to her and don't make her having had and survived cancer any kind of issue and you’ll be fine." | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on " Breast cancer can be passed on through families. It’s best you get regular STI checks if you are seeing an escort. Take care. | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on Breast cancer can be passed on through families. It’s best you get regular STI checks if you are seeing an escort. Take care. " I do get tested after I see her | |||
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"She’s a women. As far as I’m aware it don’t mean she can’t have sex. " I didnt say that she is good at sex | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on Try looking at the NHS website." Exactly | |||
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"She’s a women. As far as I’m aware it don’t mean she can’t have sex. I didnt say that she is good at sex" | |||
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"A wee bit of sensitivity might be required on this thread x" | |||
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"Some people do not know the OP as much as many of us forum members do. He does not deserve the comments he is receiving and they need to stop please. Her x " Thank you, I was trying to word something similar but yours is a lot more Diplomatic than I could manage. | |||
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"Some people do not know the OP as much as many of us forum members do. He does not deserve the comments he is receiving and they need to stop please. Her x Thank you, I was trying to word something similar but yours is a lot more Diplomatic than I could manage. " Same | |||
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"disgusting ... the op was just asking a question ... bullying is not good notice it more and more on these forums" thanks I was asking question I wanted to double check thanks | |||
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"Some people do not know the OP as much as many of us forum members do. He does not deserve the comments he is receiving and they need to stop please. Her x " Agree | |||
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"Some people do not know the OP as much as many of us forum members do. He does not deserve the comments he is receiving and they need to stop please. Her x " This is so true, please don’t take the nasty comments to heart Derek. Those who know your from around the forums know that you have a good heart and asked the question in good faith. Communicate with the lady in question, I am sure she will talk about if anything is uncomfortable for her and although cancer is not contagious, well done for getting tested regularly to protect yourself from the sexually transmitted nasties out there. | |||
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"Some people do not know the OP as much as many of us forum members do. He does not deserve the comments he is receiving and they need to stop please. Her x This is so true, please don’t take the nasty comments to heart Derek. Those who know your from around the forums know that you have a good heart and asked the question in good faith. Communicate with the lady in question, I am sure she will talk about if anything is uncomfortable for her and although cancer is not contagious, well done for getting tested regularly to protect yourself from the sexually transmitted nasties out there. " thanks | |||
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"A wee bit of sensitivity might be required on this thread x" Exactly what I was thinking come on people it’s not hard to work out when someone needs a little help navigating situations others may find easy. I think your questions have been answered OP - good luck. | |||
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"A wee bit of sensitivity might be required on this thread x Exactly what I was thinking come on people it’s not hard to work out when someone needs a little help navigating situations others may find easy. I think your questions have been answered OP - good luck. " I think it has thanks | |||
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"Don’t worry about them Derek, there are plenty of people here to offer you advice when you need it " there is thanks | |||
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"Op you can't catch cancer, if the lady in question is happy for you to play with her breasts that's great. " thanks for people said sane thing thank you | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on " what’s a push witch | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on what’s a push witch" I meant to say pussy | |||
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"I see the season of good will has escaped some folk thus far Give the guy a break He has as much right to ask any question he likes, as naive as that question might seem to you I'd sooner folk helped to educate and re-assure other members, rather than points scoring or dropping into the regular 'who's got flappiest flaps?' competition threads" That’s got me wondering who does have the flappiest flaps? | |||
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"I see the season of good will has escaped some folk thus far Give the guy a break He has as much right to ask any question he likes, as naive as that question might seem to you I'd sooner folk helped to educate and re-assure other members, rather than points scoring or dropping into the regular 'who's got flappiest flaps?' competition threads That’s got me wondering who does have the flappiest flaps? " It’s me... sorry about that | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on Breast cancer can be passed on through families. It’s best you get regular STI checks if you are seeing an escort. Take care. I do get tested after I see her you’re coming across as you don’t really care for this lady at all just if you’ll be ok cos she’s had breast cancer a bit shallow in my opinion " I do care for her she is an escourt | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on Breast cancer can be passed on through families. It’s best you get regular STI checks if you are seeing an escort. Take care. I do get tested after I see her you’re coming across as you don’t really care for this lady at all just if you’ll be ok cos she’s had breast cancer a bit shallow in my opinion " Read the room mate ffs .... the only one leaving a lot to be desired in how they’re behaving is you. | |||
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"i hope everyone is pushing that report button no room on fab for bullys" Yes yes and yes!!!! Shameful behaviour on this thread | |||
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"There really are some self righteous knob heads on here. Op seems like a caring person, he’s obviously concerned for this ladies feelings, yes his question was a little naive but no need for personal attacks " | |||
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"i hope everyone is pushing that report button no room on fab for bullys" Reported every single one of them. It's abhorrent | |||
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"i hope everyone is pushing that report button no room on fab for bullys Reported every single one of them. It's abhorrent " I reported a few of them | |||
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"i hope everyone is pushing that report button no room on fab for bullys Reported every single one of them. It's abhorrent I reported a few of them" Drop your filters OP because if anyone has a shred of decency on here they'll be messaging you with an apology | |||
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"Be kind guys " | |||
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"i hope everyone is pushing that report button no room on fab for bullys Reported every single one of them. It's abhorrent I reported a few of them Drop your filters OP because if anyone has a shred of decency on here they'll be messaging you with an apology " I think an on thread apology would be better personally public shaming deserves public apology. No place for any kind of bullying | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on " sorry mate I miss read your message | |||
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"Is this real or a fake thread! " Please, I don't know OP at all nor have I have ever heard anything about him via other threads either so with that I personally stand by my initial post. But and I really mean But, how many on this post who have posted withering denouncements about people's comments have posted something similar about posters they don't know anything about, be honest people, don't we all need to learn and be understanding and respectful? How many seemingly "stupid" posts have we all posted and haven't had any enlightened feedback? | |||
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"Is this real or a fake thread! Please, I don't know OP at all nor have I have ever heard anything about him via other threads either so with that I personally stand by my initial post. But and I really mean But, how many on this post who have posted withering denouncements about people's comments have posted something similar about posters they don't know anything about, be honest people, don't we all need to learn and be understanding and respectful? How many seemingly "stupid" posts have we all posted and haven't had any enlightened feedback? " ... hopefully as adults we can see the difference between people in how they converse in what they say and their profiles. Some people are just idiots but it doesn’t take much to work things out now does it. | |||
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"Thread should be removed. I think Derek’s question has been answered. " 100% | |||
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"Is this real or a fake thread! Please, I don't know OP at all nor have I have ever heard anything about him via other threads either so with that I personally stand by my initial post. But and I really mean But, how many on this post who have posted withering denouncements about people's comments have posted something similar about posters they don't know anything about, be honest people, don't we all need to learn and be understanding and respectful? How many seemingly "stupid" posts have we all posted and haven't had any enlightened feedback? " It's one thing to be confused by the apparent naivety of the thread Doc, but laying into the OP the way it has been done here is on another level | |||
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"Derek I hope you have your answers now lovely. Good luck and have fun As for the unnecessary comments, wow and I thought adults frequented this forum! Absolutely no need for the lack of kindness and understanding " they been answered thanks | |||
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"Yikes. No, you can't catch breast cancer from her. " You’re back!!!!!!!! | |||
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"Yikes. No, you can't catch breast cancer from her. " Welcome back Tina x | |||
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"Yikes. No, you can't catch breast cancer from her. You’re back!!!!!!!! " I know isn't it just Fab | |||
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"Is this real or a fake thread! Please, I don't know OP at all nor have I have ever heard anything about him via other threads either so with that I personally stand by my initial post. But and I really mean But, how many on this post who have posted withering denouncements about people's comments have posted something similar about posters they don't know anything about, be honest people, don't we all need to learn and be understanding and respectful? How many seemingly "stupid" posts have we all posted and haven't had any enlightened feedback? It's one thing to be confused by the apparent naivety of the thread Doc, but laying into the OP the way it has been done here is on another level " I really do agree, but I haven't, I'm guessing and possibly presuming something about OP that really I shouldn't but I don't know anything about him. I'm only guessing that the hideous comments are also based upon the posters not knowing the OP either, I seriously hope so, but how many threads have we all commented on, without knowing the OP responsible personally, have we been the same? Maybe this thread could help us all on the forum, don't prejudge? | |||
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"A wee bit of sensitivity might be required on this thread x" I was just about to say the same. | |||
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"well Derek40p id like to say to you that no matter what no question is stupid i hope that you see from the nice people on here that they will answer when they can in the correct manor .. i alway tell my staff at work that no question is silly if you dont know then ask its how we learn and move forward .. happy xmas Derek xxxxx and happy humping " thanks and you | |||
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"You're a braver man than me Derek, I've got some questions rattling around my head I'll just not ask, so fair play to you. You seem to approach this site in a manner many could learn from so ignore the numpties and keep asking questions. Like someone has already said there isn't such a thing as a stupid one. " Absolutely do ask and dont let anyone put you off. Iv posted a few silly questions and yes I've had a few silly answers but that's the nature of the game but never worry about posting something. | |||
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"You're a braver man than me Derek, I've got some questions rattling around my head I'll just not ask, so fair play to you. You seem to approach this site in a manner many could learn from so ignore the numpties and keep asking questions. Like someone has already said there isn't such a thing as a stupid one. Absolutely do ask and dont let anyone put you off. Iv posted a few silly questions and yes I've had a few silly answers but that's the nature of the game but never worry about posting something. " thanks for that | |||
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"You're a braver man than me Derek, I've got some questions rattling around my head I'll just not ask, so fair play to you. You seem to approach this site in a manner many could learn from so ignore the numpties and keep asking questions. Like someone has already said there isn't such a thing as a stupid one. Absolutely do ask and dont let anyone put you off. Iv posted a few silly questions and yes I've had a few silly answers but that's the nature of the game but never worry about posting something. thanks for that" Any time Derek. I'm gonna send you a message so that you can message me as my filters are up. You can also ask me any questions you may have, I understand how tricky navigating a site like this can be and having questions that not everyone understands. | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on " No, but there are some strains of HPV that can cause cancer.... | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on No, but there are some strains of HPV that can cause cancer...." Isn't that the one they vaccinate for now or am I thinking of something else? | |||
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"Do you mean you lick her bush not push . I think that it's ok to fuck a girl with breast cancer if she's happy to want you to to ." that's what I meant yeah | |||
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"You're a braver man than me Derek, I've got some questions rattling around my head I'll just not ask, so fair play to you. You seem to approach this site in a manner many could learn from so ignore the numpties and keep asking questions. Like someone has already said there isn't such a thing as a stupid one. Absolutely do ask and dont let anyone put you off. Iv posted a few silly questions and yes I've had a few silly answers but that's the nature of the game but never worry about posting something. thanks for that Any time Derek. I'm gonna send you a message so that you can message me as my filters are up. You can also ask me any questions you may have, I understand how tricky navigating a site like this can be and having questions that not everyone understands. " thanks I will | |||
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"I can empathise with the OP, I made the mistake of asking a genuine question in forum when I was here last time, it involved the female G-spot. Like this post, I got a number of helpful, kind responses, but also a number of abusive, degrading and rude comments, including me not having the right to be on the site, and that I should leave if I didn't know what I was asking. So OP, take on board the positive replies and comments, there are lots of nice members here." Women have G spots? | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on "Passed on"??.....are you mad?? If you're not shallow then it shouldn't be an issue at all." Mad? He asked a question. Calm down | |||
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"It’s just up and along a bit from the F Spot " Every days a school day. | |||
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"It’s just up and along a bit from the F Spot " Or the EEEEEEEE spot! | |||
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"I would like to thank those here that have replied to the OP with compassion and kindness, it’s good to see that people can still be friendly here. Hopefully those that thought it was funny or made personal attacks will learn some compassion themselves and apologise for their disgraceful behaviour " well said | |||
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"I would like to thank those here that have replied to the OP with compassion and kindness, it’s good to see that people can still be friendly here. Hopefully those that thought it was funny or made personal attacks will learn some compassion themselves and apologise for their disgraceful behaviour well said" Sending hugs to you | |||
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"I would like to thank those here that have replied to the OP with compassion and kindness, it’s good to see that people can still be friendly here. Hopefully those that thought it was funny or made personal attacks will learn some compassion themselves and apologise for their disgraceful behaviour well said Sending hugs to you " thanks | |||
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"Ffs cancer is not an infectious disease " Actually cervical cancer is linked to HPV and can be passed on sexually! | |||
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"Did I read this post correctly, you are worried about getting cancer from someone that suffers from same as opposed to serious SDI by going down on an escort ? " Please read the whole thread before judging people | |||
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"Did I read this post correctly, you are worried about getting cancer from someone that suffers from same as opposed to serious SDI by going down on an escort ? Please read the whole thread before judging people " | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on Breast cancer can be passed on through families. It’s best you get regular STI checks if you are seeing an escort. Take care. " Why do you need regular sti checks if you are seeing an escort? | |||
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"Well this was a roller coaster of a thread. I don't think I have ever had my faith in humanity shattered and then restored so many times in such little time before. Goes to show a good number of people ignore their own failings and idiocy but love to jump on something that is well meaning, regardless of how naive. Generally such behaviour is to mask and suppress their own issues. Good on you OP for just asking what you you feel you need to ask to feel secure. " Actually rate this comment - fair play hope you’re ok OP! | |||
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"Did I read this post correctly, you are worried about getting cancer from someone that suffers from same as opposed to serious SDI by going down on an escort ? Please read the whole thread before judging people " I don’t think the poster was judging, just merely asking a question. STI’s can be passed through oral sex and escorts are very sexually active, some even do bareback sex, I know a man who uses one regularly and he is allowed bareback for an extra sum of money. | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on Breast cancer can be passed on through families. It’s best you get regular STI checks if you are seeing an escort. Take care. Why do you need regular sti checks if you are seeing an escort? " The same reason people need regular sti checks if they are having sex with Swingers. Or anyone. | |||
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"I been seeing an escourt for while now on 1st meet she said she had breast cancer on her right tit I lick her push witch is great and she loves it I have sex with her using condoms I kiss both her tits but is it right to have sex with someone who had breast cancer and and breast cancer be passed on Breast cancer can be passed on through families. It’s best you get regular STI checks if you are seeing an escort. Take care. Why do you need regular sti checks if you are seeing an escort? " Because he is taking responsibility for his own health to give her the reassurance he is disease free | |||
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"Ffs cancer is not an infectious disease Actually cervical cancer is linked to HPV and can be passed on sexually!" It is also linked to throat cancer, qs well as a few others. | |||
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"Ffs cancer is not an infectious disease Actually cervical cancer is linked to HPV and can be passed on sexually! It is also linked to throat cancer, qs well as a few others." Just ask Michael Douglas! | |||
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"Ffs cancer is not an infectious disease Actually cervical cancer is linked to HPV and can be passed on sexually!" But strictly speaking, cancer is not an infectious disease and cannot be passed on sexually or otherwise. Don’t confuse matters. There are viruses and infections, such as hepatitis and HPV, that can cause cancer, but passing them on or catching them is not automatically cancer | |||
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"Ffs cancer is not an infectious disease Actually cervical cancer is linked to HPV and can be passed on sexually! But strictly speaking, cancer is not an infectious disease and cannot be passed on sexually or otherwise. Don’t confuse matters. There are viruses and infections, such as hepatitis and HPV, that can cause cancer, but passing them on or catching them is not automatically cancer " That’s just semantics and is similar to saying unprotected sex can’t give you AIDS... because it can actually give you HIV which causes AIDS... | |||
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"Ffs cancer is not an infectious disease Actually cervical cancer is linked to HPV and can be passed on sexually! But strictly speaking, cancer is not an infectious disease and cannot be passed on sexually or otherwise. Don’t confuse matters. There are viruses and infections, such as hepatitis and HPV, that can cause cancer, but passing them on or catching them is not automatically cancer That’s just semantics and is similar to saying unprotected sex can’t give you AIDS... because it can actually give you HIV which causes AIDS..." No it isn’t. I’m trying to keep it concise for the OP. You won’t get cancer from sex. End of. And, although not 100% effective against HPV, the fact he’s protecting himself will make the spread of that very unlikely too | |||
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"Ffs cancer is not an infectious disease Actually cervical cancer is linked to HPV and can be passed on sexually! But strictly speaking, cancer is not an infectious disease and cannot be passed on sexually or otherwise. Don’t confuse matters. There are viruses and infections, such as hepatitis and HPV, that can cause cancer, but passing them on or catching them is not automatically cancer That’s just semantics and is similar to saying unprotected sex can’t give you AIDS... because it can actually give you HIV which causes AIDS... No it isn’t. I’m trying to keep it concise for the OP. You won’t get cancer from sex. End of. And, although not 100% effective against HPV, the fact he’s protecting himself will make the spread of that very unlikely too" . Sounds more like overcomplication and trying to sound smart than being concise to me. Concise would be simply saying No, you can’t catch Breadt cancer, and practicing safe sex protects you from others | |||
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"Ffs cancer is not an infectious disease Actually cervical cancer is linked to HPV and can be passed on sexually! But strictly speaking, cancer is not an infectious disease and cannot be passed on sexually or otherwise. Don’t confuse matters. There are viruses and infections, such as hepatitis and HPV, that can cause cancer, but passing them on or catching them is not automatically cancer That’s just semantics and is similar to saying unprotected sex can’t give you AIDS... because it can actually give you HIV which causes AIDS... No it isn’t. I’m trying to keep it concise for the OP. You won’t get cancer from sex. End of. And, although not 100% effective against HPV, the fact he’s protecting himself will make the spread of that very unlikely too. Sounds more like overcomplication and trying to sound smart than being concise to me. Concise would be simply saying No, you can’t catch Breadt cancer, and practicing safe sex protects you from others" Takes one to know one, as they say | |||
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"Ffs cancer is not an infectious disease Actually cervical cancer is linked to HPV and can be passed on sexually! But strictly speaking, cancer is not an infectious disease and cannot be passed on sexually or otherwise. Don’t confuse matters. There are viruses and infections, such as hepatitis and HPV, that can cause cancer, but passing them on or catching them is not automatically cancer That’s just semantics and is similar to saying unprotected sex can’t give you AIDS... because it can actually give you HIV which causes AIDS... No it isn’t. I’m trying to keep it concise for the OP. You won’t get cancer from sex. End of. And, although not 100% effective against HPV, the fact he’s protecting himself will make the spread of that very unlikely too. Sounds more like overcomplication and trying to sound smart than being concise to me. Concise would be simply saying No, you can’t catch Breadt cancer, and practicing safe sex protects you from others" Breadt ? | |||
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"Ffs cancer is not an infectious disease Actually cervical cancer is linked to HPV and can be passed on sexually! But strictly speaking, cancer is not an infectious disease and cannot be passed on sexually or otherwise. Don’t confuse matters. There are viruses and infections, such as hepatitis and HPV, that can cause cancer, but passing them on or catching them is not automatically cancer That’s just semantics and is similar to saying unprotected sex can’t give you AIDS... because it can actually give you HIV which causes AIDS... No it isn’t. I’m trying to keep it concise for the OP. You won’t get cancer from sex. End of. And, although not 100% effective against HPV, the fact he’s protecting himself will make the spread of that very unlikely too. Sounds more like overcomplication and trying to sound smart than being concise to me. Concise would be simply saying No, you can’t catch Breadt cancer, and practicing safe sex protects you from others Breadt ? " Fat fingers... d being next to s | |||
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"Some people do not know the OP as much as many of us forum members do. He does not deserve the comments he is receiving and they need to stop please. Her x " Step back...no one is being nasty...the Mods would be in like Flint if they were. People are incredulous, and rightly so. No one knows everything but if your seeing anyone with an "ailment" and you're unsure, wouldn't it make more sense to go to the NHS website or Google? The op isn't exactly complimentary about this woman which is more of an issue in my opinion. When did we lose the ability to disagree, challenge without being called trolls, bullies, woke etc? | |||
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"Some people do not know the OP as much as many of us forum members do. He does not deserve the comments he is receiving and they need to stop please. Her x Step back...no one is being nasty...the Mods would be in like Flint if they were. People are incredulous, and rightly so. No one knows everything but if your seeing anyone with an "ailment" and you're unsure, wouldn't it make more sense to go to the NHS website or Google? The op isn't exactly complimentary about this woman which is more of an issue in my opinion. When did we lose the ability to disagree, challenge without being called trolls, bullies, woke etc? " People were attacking OP personally and many of their comments were removed.. a lot of the positive responses are from people who know the OP and his unique situation and therefore understand him better. | |||
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"Some people do not know the OP as much as many of us forum members do. He does not deserve the comments he is receiving and they need to stop please. Her x Step back...no one is being nasty...the Mods would be in like Flint if they were. People are incredulous, and rightly so. No one knows everything but if your seeing anyone with an "ailment" and you're unsure, wouldn't it make more sense to go to the NHS website or Google? The op isn't exactly complimentary about this woman which is more of an issue in my opinion. When did we lose the ability to disagree, challenge without being called trolls, bullies, woke etc? People were attacking OP personally and many of their comments were removed.. a lot of the positive responses are from people who know the OP and his unique situation and therefore understand him better. " Realised some were removed after going back and seeing Ruggers comments. | |||
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" People were attacking OP personally and many of their comments were removed.. a lot of the positive responses are from people who know the OP and his unique situation and therefore understand him better. " This is where I have an issue. No one knows what is going on in peoples lives or any conditions they have Respect and being civil on the forum to other peoples views shouldn't come with a caveat | |||
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