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Should all individuals be vaccinated against HPV?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Given the focus on the COVID vaccine, should society now be looking at spending more money to ensure the longevity and long term monetary savings offered by a more robust vaccination programme.
HPV vaccination in the UK is rolled out to teenagers. Encouraged among bi and gay men,and in certain circumstances, straight women after a negative PAP screening. However, it's not not mentioned to straight women and men over a certain age very often.
Given the virus causes cervical cancer, and anal, throat, penile and neck cancer across the age ranges and to both and relevant genders, is it not important, and a long term saving to blanket vaccinate as many as possible, where someone is proven or presumed HPV negative?
Just a thought, discuss? |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
"Apparently it's not very effective in sexually active adults as even if you've tested negative for HPV, the chances are you've had it in the past. "
That's what I read as the reasoning too - think something like 60% of adults in Europe are thought to have had it |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Apparently it's not very effective in sexually active adults as even if you've tested negative for HPV, the chances are you've had it in the past. "
So is there a medical consensus that HPV strains which cause cancer and warts, can be dealt with by the immune system? Because wouldn't viral cells of these strains be present regardless once you had the infection?
I understand that if you've had a few partners by 25 you're likely to have at least one of the 40 strains of HPV, however there are four strains which are of concern, which our current vaccine tackles. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is there a test for hpv in males?."
I'm lost on this;
Medical articles and private health providers offer a HPV PCR test, but the NHS says there is no test for men.
The medical articles I understand, as they'll be referring to tests in the research sense, not domestic roll out sense. |
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"Apparently it's not very effective in sexually active adults as even if you've tested negative for HPV, the chances are you've had it in the past.
So is there a medical consensus that HPV strains which cause cancer and warts, can be dealt with by the immune system? Because wouldn't viral cells of these strains be present regardless once you had the infection?
I understand that if you've had a few partners by 25 you're likely to have at least one of the 40 strains of HPV, however there are four strains which are of concern, which our current vaccine tackles."
I don't really know much about the warts but in terms of cervical cancer, some people can have high risk strains of HPV and their body can clear it by itself. The problems occur when it doesn't as the longer it sticks around, the more likely it is to cause cancer. This can take years though. Tests only show if you currently have HPV, not if you've ever previously had it. The routine testing for HPV during all smear tests now is a positive move though. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
"In all honesty I have never heard of this before"
You will have...warts are one result of HPV both genital otherwise - there are in fact over 100 strains of HPV and most of them aren't STIs |
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I was fortunate to be at the older end to get this vaccine when it rolled out in Australia. (Side effect, slightly sore arm. On the third dose, very sore arm, but I also had the MMR and the tetanus shot in the same arm at the same time, motherfuckers  ) |
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"I was fortunate to be at the older end to get this vaccine when it rolled out in Australia. (Side effect, slightly sore arm. On the third dose, very sore arm, but I also had the MMR and the tetanus shot in the same arm at the same time, motherfuckers )"
Actually I did have genital warts in my 20s. I think they were frozen off at the clinic . |
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"I was fortunate to be at the older end to get this vaccine when it rolled out in Australia. (Side effect, slightly sore arm. On the third dose, very sore arm, but I also had the MMR and the tetanus shot in the same arm at the same time, motherfuckers )
Actually I did have genital warts in my 20s. I think they were frozen off at the clinic ."
I think it's one of several types of warts. This one can cause cancer, thoigh |
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HPV caused me to have three quarters of my cervix removed when I was 31, it should have been a full hysterectomy as to how aggressive it was, but as I hadn’t had children at that time my gyno held back on that and I was checked every six months for the next 16 years.
The vaccine being given now is a good thing and the teenagers are told / taught it is not a jab to stop all HPVs but the more damaging ones and no way a substitute for practising safe sex, just another barrier, like a condom, against some diseases. My lad has just had it, next dose due next year and it is his only opportunity to have it done through the schools programme, as it is not offered by the GPS in this area.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd never heard of it until I was told it was found through a routine smear test earlier this year. Got to have another smear test same time next year.
I hope it's all clear"
Thank you x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"HPV caused me to have three quarters of my cervix removed when I was 31, it should have been a full hysterectomy as to how aggressive it was, but as I hadn’t had children at that time my gyno held back on that and I was checked every six months for the next 16 years.
The vaccine being given now is a good thing and the teenagers are told / taught it is not a jab to stop all HPVs but the more damaging ones and no way a substitute for practising safe sex, just another barrier, like a condom, against some diseases. My lad has just had it, next dose due next year and it is his only opportunity to have it done through the schools programme, as it is not offered by the GPS in this area.
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See, I think this is why I think it should be encouraged in the older members of society - those not caught by the teenage vaccination net.
If a woman tests negative for the 4 strains our vaccine protects against, aged 30 let's say, what's the harm in offering the vaccine.
It protects the individual and slows potential spread if she's sexually active.
Why should it be limited? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It’s more effective in young adults
Too late by the time your reach adult stage"
A vaccine is a vaccine though, so surely if someone is negative after a smear it's worth vaccinating them. |
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