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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it  |
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over a year ago
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I think the reasoning is very subjective. Maybe for some its admitting defeat mentally or thinking they dont have the ability to cope and medication might feel like a failure to them.
Lack of understanding could be another reason.
Fear of addiction or wanting to try alternate routes to heal?
I think the human brain and our emotions are so complex there never will be a one pill/treatment for all and every possible avenue is perceived very deifferently. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think the reasoning is very subjective. Maybe for some its admitting defeat mentally or thinking they dont have the ability to cope and medication might feel like a failure to them.
Lack of understanding could be another reason.
Fear of addiction or wanting to try alternate routes to heal?
I think the human brain and our emotions are so complex there never will be a one pill/treatment for all and every possible avenue is perceived very deifferently."
I agree regards admitting defeat if required to take meds and lack of knowledge about them  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm not sure it's anything to do with stigma
But quite often medication isn't the best solution "
Medication is used alongside other methods or talking therapies |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A lot of the newer drugs are designed to be non addictive and very hard to od on.
Some people do worry about taking meds, but sometimes we need a little help along side other therapies. There is no shame in accepting any form of help.
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
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"I think it’s more about how long people end up on medication and the length of time to get off it that worries people."
It was this for me. My doctor was already writing out the prescription pretty much when I told him I didn't want to take anything. It would of been so easy just to accept it but I felt they would of numbed things and I wanted to get sorted by myself  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Medication works brilliantly for some. For me the side effects were worse than being depressed and I was still depressed on them anyway  . "
I understand what you say as Ive been on different ones with bad side effects, it's a bit of a process of elimination |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think it's a personal preference for lots of different reasons. I know people that take medication for different things and it works for them which is great. I got offered it for my anxiety and chose not to take it. I thought it was something I could work through myself because of the situation I was in at the time. It wasn't that simple but even now the idea of taking pills for it scares me. My body doesn't react well to lots of things and I worry about how much of an affect it could have. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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medication can help reset the chemicals in the brain. But it shouldn't be used long term. Talking therapies, excerise, healthy eating. Can help, unless of course its a severe mental health issue such as bi polar then its really important to take meds, and shouldn't be any stigma to it |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Medication works brilliantly for some. For me the side effects were worse than being depressed and I was still depressed on them anyway .
I feel a bit like this at the moment "
Trust me there is a light, after a few weeks you will start to lose that feeling of feeling worse |
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"Medication works brilliantly for some. For me the side effects were worse than being depressed and I was still depressed on them anyway .
I understand what you say as Ive been on different ones with bad side effects, it's a bit of a process of elimination "
I tried 4 and as they make you try them for at least 3 months, a basically lost a year of my life before I wanted a break from feeling horrendous all the time. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I guess it's what you need them for, I've come to the realisation that for my illness I will probably be on them the rest of my life alongside other therapies etc |
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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago
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"After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it "
there is a time and a place for medication and a time and a place for alternative measures.my condition is 'treated' with antidepressants (dumbs down nervous system)or narcotics(painkillers),high level antiinflammatories,but only because they are treating it as a syndrome and not as a disease and therefore they dont look at root cause. i refuse to go onto medication at the moment because i am 49. i need my body to react, so i know what to avoid. i am on an elimination diet, which is very strict, certain supplements and i use things like a tens machine/ heat pad etc. if i went on these meds now, one they are addictive and 2 they would fuck up my gut and cause greater problems down the line. however, if people go on them because they dont have the same knowledge as i have, need a respite, give themselves some time to get their head into gear, have no other support, cant see another way out, who am i to judge? i just wish doctors would tell the truth, not be in the pockets of big pharma and, learn to join the dots of symptoms to root causes and treat those instead of fobbing people off for years...thats what makes me mad x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it
there is a time and a place for medication and a time and a place for alternative measures.my condition is 'treated' with antidepressants (dumbs down nervous system)or narcotics(painkillers),high level antiinflammatories,but only because they are treating it as a syndrome and not as a disease and therefore they dont look at root cause. i refuse to go onto medication at the moment because i am 49. i need my body to react, so i know what to avoid. i am on an elimination diet, which is very strict, certain supplements and i use things like a tens machine/ heat pad etc. if i went on these meds now, one they are addictive and 2 they would fuck up my gut and cause greater problems down the line. however, if people go on them because they dont have the same knowledge as i have, need a respite, give themselves some time to get their head into gear, have no other support, cant see another way out, who am i to judge? i just wish doctors would tell the truth, not be in the pockets of big pharma and, learn to join the dots of symptoms to root causes and treat those instead of fobbing people off for years...thats what makes me mad x"
I spent many years being fobbed off but finally I'm getting the help needed albeit being a very slow process |
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I find it odd. I take antidepressants, have for over 20 years.
I also take other medication.
It just is. I eat my breakfast and take my pills.
Antidepressants, some work better than others, and while it's an individual choice, I do feel people are discouraged from it where it might help them. For me it's a safety net on top of the other work I do on myself.
The other medication, I've been told by plenty of people that I should do without because they feel regular medication is bad. Even doctors occasionally. I have an autoimmune disease and I'd die without it. I'm so sorry people disapprove?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Im guilty of saying "im not touching the meds for my mental health" instead that lead to alot of other issue like alcohol. Been taking my meds now for over a year and can happily say theyve helped. Dont care if people believe its some stigma or what ever, in my eyes its whats best for me. The depression lifted, anxiety eased and ptsd didnt feel as big of a struggle any more. Dont get me wrong, still have bad days, but far and few apart |
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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago
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"After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it
there is a time and a place for medication and a time and a place for alternative measures.my condition is 'treated' with antidepressants (dumbs down nervous system)or narcotics(painkillers),high level antiinflammatories,but only because they are treating it as a syndrome and not as a disease and therefore they dont look at root cause. i refuse to go onto medication at the moment because i am 49. i need my body to react, so i know what to avoid. i am on an elimination diet, which is very strict, certain supplements and i use things like a tens machine/ heat pad etc. if i went on these meds now, one they are addictive and 2 they would fuck up my gut and cause greater problems down the line. however, if people go on them because they dont have the same knowledge as i have, need a respite, give themselves some time to get their head into gear, have no other support, cant see another way out, who am i to judge? i just wish doctors would tell the truth, not be in the pockets of big pharma and, learn to join the dots of symptoms to root causes and treat those instead of fobbing people off for years...thats what makes me mad x
I spent many years being fobbed off but finally I'm getting the help needed albeit being a very slow process "
good man xx there is a corelation between gut and brain...you might want to just look into becoming gluten/ grain and sugar free for a while. i can have enormous impacts on some people xx there are functional medicine doctors on the tube of U...they are the doctors who are trained to look at a whole person x just a suggestion xx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I find it odd. I take antidepressants, have for over 20 years.
I also take other medication.
It just is. I eat my breakfast and take my pills.
Antidepressants, some work better than others, and while it's an individual choice, I do feel people are discouraged from it where it might help them. For me it's a safety net on top of the other work I do on myself.
The other medication, I've been told by plenty of people that I should do without because they feel regular medication is bad. Even doctors occasionally. I have an autoimmune disease and I'd die without it. I'm so sorry people disapprove? "
Don't think people disapprove, think it's more the fact of concerns regarding side affects etc, I've been on and off different anti depressants and have now found one to suit me and help my cause, that helps the anxiety and depression but it's the talking therapy that helps my bpd x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Im guilty of saying "im not touching the meds for my mental health" instead that lead to alot of other issue like alcohol. Been taking my meds now for over a year and can happily say theyve helped. Dont care if people believe its some stigma or what ever, in my eyes its whats best for me. The depression lifted, anxiety eased and ptsd didnt feel as big of a struggle any more. Dont get me wrong, still have bad days, but far and few apart "
Totally agree regards the alcohol, not had any for 15 months and the meds work fine  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Selling legal (and illegal) drugs make alot of people alot of money.
A natural remedy, stemmed from eating the right foods are a much safer way of control a large proportion of ailments. |
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I've been on 7 different anti depressants including risperidone which is an antipsychotic for my mental health issues.
Yes, they stopped the depression, anxiety and other problems (I'm not gonna name them) but they didn't just kill the bad emotions, they killed the good ones also.
I wasn't upset, depressed, down, but I also wasn't happy, joyful etc they killed ALL emotion.
Also as mentioned the side effects were bad. I was a vegetable. Because I had no emotion I didn't care about anything. I didn't pay my bills, didn't eat properly, couldn't be bothered to get off the settee cos nothing mattered to me.
My problems in my head were still there though. No amount of counseling, therapy, or mental health professionals could help.
So 3 years ago I stopped all the meds, stopped the help and just accepted there's nothing to help me and I developed my own coping mechanisms.
This has nothing to do with my sexuality or being a Tgirl, my problems are about other things.
But that's just me, meds may help other people  |
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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago
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"Selling legal (and illegal) drugs make alot of people alot of money.
A natural remedy, stemmed from eating the right foods are a much safer way of control a large proportion of ailments. "
true but even being on elimination diet for nearly a year i still have fibro and chronic fatigue symptoms.so if you have the cure..dont keep it to yourself xx |
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I take medication for physical and mental health. I've had talking therapy as well. Unfortunately, I sustained severe abuse as a child over several years. I cannot change my past but, medication helps my anxiety and depression. I'm very stable, have had a career and am living well with health issues. I'm not ashamed of taking medication, it means I am alive and functioning. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I've been on 7 different anti depressants including risperidone which is an antipsychotic for my mental health issues.
Yes, they stopped the depression, anxiety and other problems (I'm not gonna name them) but they didn't just kill the bad emotions, they killed the good ones also.
I wasn't upset, depressed, down, but I also wasn't happy, joyful etc they killed ALL emotion.
Also as mentioned the side effects were bad. I was a vegetable. Because I had no emotion I didn't care about anything. I didn't pay my bills, didn't eat properly, couldn't be bothered to get off the settee cos nothing mattered to me.
My problems in my head were still there though. No amount of counseling, therapy, or mental health professionals could help.
So 3 years ago I stopped all the meds, stopped the help and just accepted there's nothing to help me and I developed my own coping mechanisms.
This has nothing to do with my sexuality or being a Tgirl, my problems are about other things.
But that's just me, meds may help other people "
I can relate to the loss of emotion |
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"I find it odd. I take antidepressants, have for over 20 years.
I also take other medication.
It just is. I eat my breakfast and take my pills.
Antidepressants, some work better than others, and while it's an individual choice, I do feel people are discouraged from it where it might help them. For me it's a safety net on top of the other work I do on myself.
The other medication, I've been told by plenty of people that I should do without because they feel regular medication is bad. Even doctors occasionally. I have an autoimmune disease and I'd die without it. I'm so sorry people disapprove?
Don't think people disapprove, think it's more the fact of concerns regarding side affects etc, I've been on and off different anti depressants and have now found one to suit me and help my cause, that helps the anxiety and depression but it's the talking therapy that helps my bpd x"
I suffer no meaningful side effects and if I did I'd talk to my doctor.
My auto immune medication I suffer zero side effects and I'm told to come off them because medication is bad. Yeah I'd die, no I won't be doing that.
I've had a lot of therapy too and for me it's the most important thing, but it's less accessible. And now I've graduated therapy, medication remains my safety net after I continue that work.
As for my other medication - there's no alternative and people can sod off. |
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"I take medication for physical and mental health. I've had talking therapy as well. Unfortunately, I sustained severe abuse as a child over several years. I cannot change my past but, medication helps my anxiety and depression. I'm very stable, have had a career and am living well with health issues. I'm not ashamed of taking medication, it means I am alive and functioning. "
Similar x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I take medication for physical and mental health. I've had talking therapy as well. Unfortunately, I sustained severe abuse as a child over several years. I cannot change my past but, medication helps my anxiety and depression. I'm very stable, have had a career and am living well with health issues. I'm not ashamed of taking medication, it means I am alive and functioning. "
Very well said, I think it is also admiring and positive the fact people are willing to be open about their own struggles, I'm a big believer of being as open as I can about mine and if people want to judge then so be it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Its a difficult thing to accept you need help for your mental health, unfortunately i have found i do and without them i would rather not be here. They make me feel normal and able to hold down a job and function.
Not fair on my family if im off them they have to look after me. |
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"After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it "
I was on medication for almost a year....recently just came off it. Didnt like it, didnt feel any better or worse than before. |
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I owe my life to medication, without it I'm sure I would not be writing this!
I will be on it for the rest of my life, but I would if I was diabetic or something
I don't have an issue with it
Jo x |
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"I was on medication, until their side effects were just making me feel worse... Nothing to do with stigma"
I think making choices about side effect profiles and talking about it with your doctor is rational.
I think being shamed for being on medication - it happens a lot - is unacceptable. If you (general) need it, take it. (And shaming people like me who require medication to live - not my antidepressant, I produce an amount of a hormone insufficient for the being alive thing - is insane) |
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"I owe my life to medication, without it I'm sure I would not be writing this!
I will be on it for the rest of my life, but I would if I was diabetic or something
I don't have an issue with it
Jo x "
Exactly |
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"I was on medication, until their side effects were just making me feel worse... Nothing to do with stigma
I think making choices about side effect profiles and talking about it with your doctor is rational.
I think being shamed for being on medication - it happens a lot - is unacceptable. If you (general) need it, take it. (And shaming people like me who require medication to live - not my antidepressant, I produce an amount of a hormone insufficient for the being alive thing - is insane)"
If I hear about alleged "natural" alternatives to that medication, Swing, I'll cry. You know my mum is a monumental conspiracy theorist and she bought into stopping her meds (same as you and I take) and went on "natural" stuff. It didn't take too many months before she was back on the stuff from the pharmacy, but not before she'd been really unwell. I take an anti-epileptic drug for nerve pain. The side effects were bad at first but they improved after a couple of months. I just get a dry mouth now. Again, I've been "shamed" for being reliant on them. Lots of handy suggestions:
1) Do more exercise - ummm putting weight through that leg causes more and more agony and my leg swells. I'm gonna stick to my wheelchair exercise which does nothing to improve the nerve pain, but allows participation.
2) Try TENS/yoga/Pilates/mindfulness other "natural" solution - yeah. TENS makes zero difference (I tried already, you see). The others I can't physically do because my hip/leg/foot muscles on the left don't work. And mindfulness isn't going to stop nerves zapping all over the shop.
I keep taking the little red capsules and it's tolerable most of the time. |
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I have depression and anxiety but it's not reactive I just have faulty wiring in my brain so therapy does not help
I get really annoyed with people telling me I don't need medication or that the medication is a con from big pharma etc you wouldn't tell a diabetic that they shouldn't take insulin. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I have depression and anxiety but it's not reactive I just have faulty wiring in my brain so therapy does not help
I get really annoyed with people telling me I don't need medication or that the medication is a con from big pharma etc you wouldn't tell a diabetic that they shouldn't take insulin. "
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"I have depression and anxiety but it's not reactive I just have faulty wiring in my brain so therapy does not help
I get really annoyed with people telling me I don't need medication or that the medication is a con from big pharma etc you wouldn't tell a diabetic that they shouldn't take insulin. "
Phoenix, some people DO say things like that to diabetics and to people with myriad health conditions that DEFINITELY require medication. |
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"I was on medication, until their side effects were just making me feel worse... Nothing to do with stigma
I think making choices about side effect profiles and talking about it with your doctor is rational.
I think being shamed for being on medication - it happens a lot - is unacceptable. If you (general) need it, take it. (And shaming people like me who require medication to live - not my antidepressant, I produce an amount of a hormone insufficient for the being alive thing - is insane)
If I hear about alleged "natural" alternatives to that medication, Swing, I'll cry. You know my mum is a monumental conspiracy theorist and she bought into stopping her meds (same as you and I take) and went on "natural" stuff. It didn't take too many months before she was back on the stuff from the pharmacy, but not before she'd been really unwell. I take an anti-epileptic drug for nerve pain. The side effects were bad at first but they improved after a couple of months. I just get a dry mouth now. Again, I've been "shamed" for being reliant on them. Lots of handy suggestions:
1) Do more exercise - ummm putting weight through that leg causes more and more agony and my leg swells. I'm gonna stick to my wheelchair exercise which does nothing to improve the nerve pain, but allows participation.
2) Try TENS/yoga/Pilates/mindfulness other "natural" solution - yeah. TENS makes zero difference (I tried already, you see). The others I can't physically do because my hip/leg/foot muscles on the left don't work. And mindfulness isn't going to stop nerves zapping all over the shop.
I keep taking the little red capsules and it's tolerable most of the time. "
I hear you.
And they exist. Ish. Before the 1950s we took the relevant organ from pigs. It's better than dying but... dosing issues not good
Apparently in some places people insist on dessicated pig bits because it's more natural. (There was a dosing upset for awhile with these pills and the people who take pig talk about lack of quality control in medication. Nope nope nope ) |
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I hear you.
And they exist. Ish. Before the 1950s we took the relevant organ from pigs. It's better than dying but... dosing issues not good
Apparently in some places people insist on dessicated pig bits because it's more natural. (There was a dosing upset for awhile with these pills and the people who take pig talk about lack of quality control in medication. Nope nope nope )"
It was the pig stuff my mother took and made herself very ill indeed because, presumably, she wasn't getting medical advice and we know the dosing is hit and miss. She's back on the little white pills now and fine in that regard. |
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I hear you.
And they exist. Ish. Before the 1950s we took the relevant organ from pigs. It's better than dying but... dosing issues not good
Apparently in some places people insist on dessicated pig bits because it's more natural. (There was a dosing upset for awhile with these pills and the people who take pig talk about lack of quality control in medication. Nope nope nope )
It was the pig stuff my mother took and made herself very ill indeed because, presumably, she wasn't getting medical advice and we know the dosing is hit and miss. She's back on the little white pills now and fine in that regard. "
God
Closest I've had to that is people who tell me I'm below 50 so I shouldn't need regular medication.
Umm I needed it when I was below fifteen and if you don't like it tough |
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I hear you.
And they exist. Ish. Before the 1950s we took the relevant organ from pigs. It's better than dying but... dosing issues not good
Apparently in some places people insist on dessicated pig bits because it's more natural. (There was a dosing upset for awhile with these pills and the people who take pig talk about lack of quality control in medication. Nope nope nope )
It was the pig stuff my mother took and made herself very ill indeed because, presumably, she wasn't getting medical advice and we know the dosing is hit and miss. She's back on the little white pills now and fine in that regard.
God
Closest I've had to that is people who tell me I'm below 50 so I shouldn't need regular medication.
Umm I needed it when I was below fifteen and if you don't like it tough "
It was interesting how quickly "big pharma" medicine was fine when the naturalistic experiment failed....... |
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By *9alMan
over a year ago
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I take a lot of medication for Heart problems I did once have a problem with depression as a side effect of medication it was very scary, we need to talk about what we take & how well it works |
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Closest I've had to that is people who tell me I'm below 50 so I shouldn't need regular medication.
Umm I needed it when I was below fifteen and if you don't like it tough "
Aye, I get this. "Too young" to have a heart condition. Sorry, I didn't ask for pneumonia to fuck my heart at 21 . |
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"I was on medication, until their side effects were just making me feel worse... Nothing to do with stigma
I think making choices about side effect profiles and talking about it with your doctor is rational.
I think being shamed for being on medication - it happens a lot - is unacceptable. If you (general) need it, take it. (And shaming people like me who require medication to live - not my antidepressant, I produce an amount of a hormone insufficient for the being alive thing - is insane)"
I agree!! I really don't get some people  |
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Closest I've had to that is people who tell me I'm below 50 so I shouldn't need regular medication.
Umm I needed it when I was below fifteen and if you don't like it tough
Aye, I get this. "Too young" to have a heart condition. Sorry, I didn't ask for pneumonia to fuck my heart at 21 . "
I know right? I'm sorry you're offended that I have a lifelong health issue |
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Closest I've had to that is people who tell me I'm below 50 so I shouldn't need regular medication.
Umm I needed it when I was below fifteen and if you don't like it tough
Aye, I get this. "Too young" to have a heart condition. Sorry, I didn't ask for pneumonia to fuck my heart at 21 . "
I'm too young to use a wheelchair apparently. Always from older people in the supermarket |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I always reckoned it was a sticking plaster to cover up the problems, and having had a partner on them I still think it is somewhat but it makes life a bit more liveable for both parties albeit with massive side effects. It can be a lifeline when someone can see no other way out of their difficulties or wont for whatever reason. I dont think they should be a long term solution  |
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"After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it "
Thank you for helping take the stigma from discussing mental health. I'm on medication for it and recently had mine increased. I had CBT earlier this year by phone and that wasn't much help for me, although I know it works for lots of others. |
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"After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it
Thank you for helping take the stigma from discussing mental health. I'm on medication for it and recently had mine increased. I had CBT earlier this year by phone and that wasn't much help for me, although I know it works for lots of others."
CBT didn't do much for me either. I was fortunate that I found therapy that did help me. In conjunction with medication |
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"After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it
Thank you for helping take the stigma from discussing mental health. I'm on medication for it and recently had mine increased. I had CBT earlier this year by phone and that wasn't much help for me, although I know it works for lots of others.
CBT didn't do much for me either. I was fortunate that I found therapy that did help me. In conjunction with medication"
I didnt even last the first half an hour on cbt. It was a group session and the lovely gentle music playing made me burst straight into tears walking throùgh the door and I just didnt stop. Excruciating |
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"After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it
Thank you for helping take the stigma from discussing mental health. I'm on medication for it and recently had mine increased. I had CBT earlier this year by phone and that wasn't much help for me, although I know it works for lots of others."
There are a few different types of counselling
Cbt is more directive but doesnt work for everyone and a lot depends on your counsellor.
Over the phone is also not ideal I guess. |
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"After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it
Thank you for helping take the stigma from discussing mental health. I'm on medication for it and recently had mine increased. I had CBT earlier this year by phone and that wasn't much help for me, although I know it works for lots of others.
CBT didn't do much for me either. I was fortunate that I found therapy that did help me. In conjunction with medication
I didnt even last the first half an hour on cbt. It was a group session and the lovely gentle music playing made me burst straight into tears walking throùgh the door and I just didnt stop. Excruciating "
I did years of it. Bits of it helped, but it didn't get deep enough for me.
Different things will work for different people, though. |
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I’m on medication for life. Hate taking it. Think that I can cope without it and then 3/4 weeks later boom it catches up with me. The medication helps me to live a normal life as possible. Still in pain but relaxes me. |
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"After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it
Thank you for helping take the stigma from discussing mental health. I'm on medication for it and recently had mine increased. I had CBT earlier this year by phone and that wasn't much help for me, although I know it works for lots of others.
CBT didn't do much for me either. I was fortunate that I found therapy that did help me. In conjunction with medication
I didnt even last the first half an hour on cbt. It was a group session and the lovely gentle music playing made me burst straight into tears walking throùgh the door and I just didnt stop. Excruciating
I did years of it. Bits of it helped, but it didn't get deep enough for me.
Different things will work for different people, though."
I read the handouts and realised I already cbt the arse out of myself and it doesnt really work for me. She took me out the class and refered me elsewhere instead which I was immensely grateful for. |
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I had always said no to medication for anxiety etc until it got to a point where I couldn't go on. I basically crawled into the doctors office and begged for some help because I wasn't functioning.
I dont want to be on them forever because they make me feel a bit disjointed but if I stop them there is a whole tidal wave of shit I need to deal with and i am not ready!
Anyway, there is my little story |
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"CBT seems to be the only therapy available around my way. I emailed my counsellor to say I wanted to stop and she didn't question it, just said ok."
There is person centred which is a lot more listening
Cbt tends to try to provide you with solutions.
There is a third but the name escapes me.
A lot of the funding has been cut so unless you are prepared to go private,your options are narrowed.
If it wasnt working you defo did the right thing,like I said cbt isnt for everyone. |
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"I had always said no to medication for anxiety etc until it got to a point where I couldn't go on. I basically crawled into the doctors office and begged for some help because I wasn't functioning.
I dont want to be on them forever because they make me feel a bit disjointed but if I stop them there is a whole tidal wave of shit I need to deal with and i am not ready!
Anyway, there is my little story "
Hang in there
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"CBT seems to be the only therapy available around my way. I emailed my counsellor to say I wanted to stop and she didn't question it, just said ok.
There is person centred which is a lot more listening
Cbt tends to try to provide you with solutions.
There is a third but the name escapes me.
A lot of the funding has been cut so unless you are prepared to go private,your options are narrowed.
If it wasnt working you defo did the right thing,like I said cbt isnt for everyone."
I can't afford to go private. Wish I could. |
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"I had always said no to medication for anxiety etc until it got to a point where I couldn't go on. I basically crawled into the doctors office and begged for some help because I wasn't functioning.
I dont want to be on them forever because they make me feel a bit disjointed but if I stop them there is a whole tidal wave of shit I need to deal with and i am not ready!
Anyway, there is my little story
Hang in there
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"CBT seems to be the only therapy available around my way. I emailed my counsellor to say I wanted to stop and she didn't question it, just said ok.
There is person centred which is a lot more listening
Cbt tends to try to provide you with solutions.
There is a third but the name escapes me.
A lot of the funding has been cut so unless you are prepared to go private,your options are narrowed.
If it wasnt working you defo did the right thing,like I said cbt isnt for everyone.
I can't afford to go private. Wish I could. "
I know..its not cheap |
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"CBT seems to be the only therapy available around my way. I emailed my counsellor to say I wanted to stop and she didn't question it, just said ok.
There is person centred which is a lot more listening
Cbt tends to try to provide you with solutions.
There is a third but the name escapes me.
A lot of the funding has been cut so unless you are prepared to go private,your options are narrowed.
If it wasnt working you defo did the right thing,like I said cbt isnt for everyone.
I can't afford to go private. Wish I could.
I know..its not cheap "
No. Maybe one day I'll find a pot of gold. |
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I've recently heard about something called acceptance and commitment therapy, which is being seen as an option other than CBT,this is something I've been offered which I'm willing to give a go x |
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"I've recently heard about something called acceptance and commitment therapy, which is being seen as an option other than CBT,this is something I've been offered which I'm willing to give a go x"
What is it? |
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Oh, do. It's not what I've done but it's a good alternative |
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I have bipolar, and borderline personality disorder. I've tried so many medications and none have had positive effects that were enough to outweigh negative side effects. So I haven't been on meds for a long time now.
I've done a lot of therapy and that, for me is more effective. But as always it depends on the person, and on their condition =) |
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"I've recently heard about something called acceptance and commitment therapy, which is being seen as an option other than CBT,this is something I've been offered which I'm willing to give a go x
Oh, do. It's not what I've done but it's a good alternative"
Have you heard about it? I don't know that much about it other than what I've searched briefly x |
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"I've recently heard about something called acceptance and commitment therapy, which is being seen as an option other than CBT,this is something I've been offered which I'm willing to give a go x
Oh, do. It's not what I've done but it's a good alternative
Have you heard about it? I don't know that much about it other than what I've searched briefly x"
Very little but for bipolar disorder |
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"I have bipolar, and borderline personality disorder. I've tried so many medications and none have had positive effects that were enough to outweigh negative side effects. So I haven't been on meds for a long time now.
I've done a lot of therapy and that, for me is more effective. But as always it depends on the person, and on their condition =) "
I'm currently being assessed as such for bipolar and bpd, although I was understanding it was either one or the other, which is slowly coming to the conclusion of eupd as they call it over here with borderline and impulsive traits x |
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"I have bipolar, and borderline personality disorder. I've tried so many medications and none have had positive effects that were enough to outweigh negative side effects. So I haven't been on meds for a long time now.
I've done a lot of therapy and that, for me is more effective. But as always it depends on the person, and on their condition =)
I'm currently being assessed as such for bipolar and bpd, although I was understanding it was either one or the other, which is slowly coming to the conclusion of eupd as they call it over here with borderline and impulsive traits x"
Nope, you can have both. Some shrinks disagree on that, but it's becoming more widely accepted.
Yeah I know they call it eupd, but BPD is more recognisable so it's easier just to use the more well known abbreviation.
Good luck, I hope you find treatment that's helpful for you |
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"I've recently heard about something called acceptance and commitment therapy, which is being seen as an option other than CBT,this is something I've been offered which I'm willing to give a go x
Oh, do. It's not what I've done but it's a good alternative
Have you heard about it? I don't know
that much about it other than what
I've searched briefly x
I thought CBT was cock & ball torture is there another CBT?
Very little but for bipolar disorder"
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I don't take pain killers in general unless I'm in extreme really hurty pain. I like to feel what's going on with my body, to understand it as best I can and alter my behaviour to address that if it's possible before introducing external influences. I'd probably be the same with meds for mental health issues if I was in that situation and I think that would be my own personal choice and a fair thing to feel. I hope it doesn't make me a bad person for thinking that way....  |
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What long term effects are you thinking of?
I don't have any and I've been on antidepressants since 1998"
My first husband has been on medication for schizophrenia not sure what he was on but a year or so ago his heart kept stopping lucky he was in right place they fitted a pacemaker to start it again but the upshot is they said long term use of the meds caused it and he cant take them now as would kill him! It's sad to see now as he is totally out of control without them x |
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"Maybe it's because of the long term affects of them? X
What long term effects are you thinking of?
I don't have any and I've been on antidepressants since 1998
My first husband has been on medication for schizophrenia not sure what he was on but a year or so ago his heart kept stopping lucky he was in right place they fitted a pacemaker to start it again but the upshot is they said long term use of the meds caused it and he cant take them now as would kill him! It's sad to see now as he is totally out of control without them x"
Yes, antipsychotics unfortunately have a bigger risk profile than most antidepressants.
Most antidepressants can be taken long term if you need them.
It's about a risk/benefit analysis and a conversation with a GP or psychiatrist. I was quite fortunate to have a psychiatrist (discharged now) talk me through appropriate medication and the risk profile for me. |
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"Maybe it's because of the long term affects of them? X
What long term effects are you thinking of?
I don't have any and I've been on antidepressants since 1998
My first husband has been on medication for schizophrenia not sure what he was on but a year or so ago his heart kept stopping lucky he was in right place they fitted a pacemaker to start it again but the upshot is they said long term use of the meds caused it and he cant take them now as would kill him! It's sad to see now as he is totally out of control without them x
Yes, antipsychotics unfortunately have a bigger risk profile than most antidepressants.
Most antidepressants can be taken long term if you need them.
It's about a risk/benefit analysis and a conversation with a GP or psychiatrist. I was quite fortunate to have a psychiatrist (discharged now) talk me through appropriate medication and the risk profile for me."
Yes I think weighing it all up it was best thing for him as for last 30 years he was on them it let him live his life ! He is now 66 x |
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"Maybe it's because of the long term affects of them? X
What long term effects are you thinking of?
I don't have any and I've been on antidepressants since 1998
My first husband has been on medication for schizophrenia not sure what he was on but a year or so ago his heart kept stopping lucky he was in right place they fitted a pacemaker to start it again but the upshot is they said long term use of the meds caused it and he cant take them now as would kill him! It's sad to see now as he is totally out of control without them x
Yes, antipsychotics unfortunately have a bigger risk profile than most antidepressants.
Most antidepressants can be taken long term if you need them.
It's about a risk/benefit analysis and a conversation with a GP or psychiatrist. I was quite fortunate to have a psychiatrist (discharged now) talk me through appropriate medication and the risk profile for me.
Yes I think weighing it all up it was best thing for him as for last 30 years he was on them it let him live his life ! He is now 66 x"
Definitely.
I have some side effects with my current antidepressant, but they're temporary as far as I know (while I take the pills) and they're more than worth it to help me keep on top of my mental health.
Unfortunately any effective intervention also comes with potential risk. |
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"Maybe it's because of the long term affects of them? X
What long term effects are you thinking of?
I don't have any and I've been on antidepressants since 1998
My first husband has been on medication for schizophrenia not sure what he was on but a year or so ago his heart kept stopping lucky he was in right place they fitted a pacemaker to start it again but the upshot is they said long term use of the meds caused it and he cant take them now as would kill him! It's sad to see now as he is totally out of control without them x
Yes, antipsychotics unfortunately have a bigger risk profile than most antidepressants.
Most antidepressants can be taken long term if you need them.
It's about a risk/benefit analysis and a conversation with a GP or psychiatrist. I was quite fortunate to have a psychiatrist (discharged now) talk me through appropriate medication and the risk profile for me.
Yes I think weighing it all up it was best thing for him as for last 30 years he was on them it let him live his life ! He is now 66 x
Definitely.
I have some side effects with my current antidepressant, but they're temporary as far as I know (while I take the pills) and they're more than worth it to help me keep on top of my mental health.
Unfortunately any effective intervention also comes with potential risk."
He has been offered counciling but not taken it up not sure if it would help x |
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He has been offered counciling but not taken it up not sure if it would help x"
You have to want to, for counselling to work, as a rule.
Different benefit profiles for psychosis and counselling, too. I don't know the specifics. I wish you both the best of luck x |
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He has been offered counciling but not taken it up not sure if it would help x
You have to want to, for counselling to work, as a rule.
Different benefit profiles for psychosis and counselling, too. I don't know the specifics. I wish you both the best of luck x"
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"After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it
Thank you for helping take the stigma from discussing mental health. I'm on medication for it and recently had mine increased. I had CBT earlier this year by phone and that wasn't much help for me, although I know it works for lots of others."
Give CBT another try either in person or a group once you are able too
With CBT the more effort that goes in the better the results |
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"I have bipolar, and borderline personality disorder. I've tried so many medications and none have had positive effects that were enough to outweigh negative side effects. So I haven't been on meds for a long time now.
I've done a lot of therapy and that, for me is more effective. But as always it depends on the person, and on their condition =) "
May i ask what therapy out of interest?
Sorry to hear you did not get on with the meds with bipolar. This is s difficult one to treat.
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"I have bipolar, and borderline personality disorder. I've tried so many medications and none have had positive effects that were enough to outweigh negative side effects. So I haven't been on meds for a long time now.
I've done a lot of therapy and that, for me is more effective. But as always it depends on the person, and on their condition =)
I'm currently being assessed as such for bipolar and bpd, although I was understanding it was either one or the other, which is slowly coming to the conclusion of eupd as they call it over here with borderline and impulsive traits x"
Hello there
You can absolutely have a "mood" disorder whilst also having a personally disorder.
But very difficult to tease it out as a lot of traits are in both.
I hope things will be good for you |
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"After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it
Thank you for helping take the stigma from discussing mental health. I'm on medication for it and recently had mine increased. I had CBT earlier this year by phone and that wasn't much help for me, although I know it works for lots of others.
There are a few different types of counselling
Cbt is more directive but doesnt work for everyone and a lot depends on your counsellor.
Over the phone is also not ideal I guess."
I agree
And pretty cack over the phone |
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"I have bipolar, and borderline personality disorder. I've tried so many medications and none have had positive effects that were enough to outweigh negative side effects. So I haven't been on meds for a long time now.
I've done a lot of therapy and that, for me is more effective. But as always it depends on the person, and on their condition =)
May i ask what therapy out of interest?
Sorry to hear you did not get on with the meds with bipolar. This is s difficult one to treat.
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I've had:
CBT
CBT again (for bulimia)
DBT
CAT
psychodynamic psychotheraphy
And I'm currently on the waiting list for MDT.
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"After recently reading someone else's post regarding struggles, it was mentioned about not wanting medication. Which leads me to the topic of why the stigma regarding taking medication and mental health issues? I'm on medication and it helps me but when speaking to others the first thing out of their mouths is oh I don't want to take medication for it
Thank you for helping take the stigma from discussing mental health. I'm on medication for it and recently had mine increased. I had CBT earlier this year by phone and that wasn't much help for me, although I know it works for lots of others.
There are a few different types of counselling
Cbt is more directive but doesnt work for everyone and a lot depends on your counsellor.
Over the phone is also not ideal I guess.
I agree
And pretty cack over the phone"
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