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Alpha, but must be bi? WTF

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I’ve seen so many of these couples saying they are looking only for dominant type guys, with huge cocks and confident... but you must be bi/curious. How does that works? Have you ever seen a predator accepting to be hunted or being at the service of another alpha?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve seen so many of these couples saying they are looking only for dominant type guys, with huge cocks and confident... but you must be bi/curious. How does that works? Have you ever seen a predator accepting to be hunted or being at the service of another alpha?

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I've had relationships with at least 2 guys who are certainly Bulls in any scenario but are both bi curious or bisexual. How does being dominant preclude you from being Bi or bi curious.

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Plenty of bi and gay men are alphas, its got nothing to do with sexuality

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'm not sure what dominant sexuality and sexual orientation have to do with each other.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Best dom I've ever been with is bi. *Shrug*

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both? "

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It's a fairly outmoded heteronormative assumption.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge."

I'm not quite shines through more, your naivety or your homophobia

Either way, I'll leave this one here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge."

I don't think your really understanding the dynamic then. I've never heard such tosh!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge."

I think you need to update your filters about bi men. Bi men can be dominant or submissive or switch, top or bottom or versatile.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I've had relationships with at least 2 guys who are certainly Bulls in any scenario but are both bi curious or bisexual. How does being dominant preclude you from being Bi or bi curious. "

Well bulls are not alpha, since alpha does not rely on anyone to show it’s or his strength nor need to report to anyone, differently form bulls whom act as a group.

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By *ervent_fervourMan over a year ago

Halifax

Tops.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My Dom is an amazing Dom, completely alpha, but also bi, I’m not sure I understand your question?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge.

I'm not quite shines through more, your naivety or your homophobia

I am just like the Candide of Rousseau, you gatta tell me all the passages..

Either way, I'll leave this one here"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh goody, another thread about "alphas"

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Oh goody, another thread about "alphas"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge."

So you are assuming once a guy is bi, he is a bottom and no longer alpha?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

My Dom is an amazing Dom, completely alpha, but also bi, I’m not sure I understand your question?

Does your Dom comes towards you.. or you are the one running after him. Simple as that.

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By *addyBabygirl2020Couple over a year ago

norwich

Tops. "

There's some seriously alpha gay and bi dudes out there,

I've trained with a few.

I know one gay dude who works the doors and is a seriously feared bouncer cos he don't fuck about and is a total unit.

Scary dude, would probably fuck OP.until he loved him.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge.

So you are assuming once a guy is bi, he is a bottom and no longer alpha? "

Exactly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I know one gay dude who works the doors and is a seriously feared bouncer cos he don't fuck about and is a total unit.

Scary dude, would probably fuck OP.until he loved him."

I'm not sure being scary and having people fear you are positive attributes

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I know one gay dude who works the doors and is a seriously feared bouncer cos he don't fuck about and is a total unit.

Scary dude, would probably fuck OP.until he loved him.

I'm not sure being scary and having people fear you are positive attributes

For an alpha it definitely is! Because alpha is the ruler and the law, he makes the choices and make them applied.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I know one gay dude who works the doors and is a seriously feared bouncer cos he don't fuck about and is a total unit.

Scary dude, would probably fuck OP.until he loved him.

I'm not sure being scary and having people fear you are positive attributes

For an alpha it definitely is! Because alpha is the ruler and the law, he makes the choices and make them applied."

Poppycock

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Oh lord

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By *igmaMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

"For an alpha it definitely is! Because alpha is the ruler and the law, he makes the choices and make them applied."

Think you'll find that's Judge Dredd

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh lord"

You know what I was saying on Lickety's thread last night?...

Well, that!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Tops.

There's some seriously alpha gay and bi dudes out there,

I've trained with a few.

I know one gay dude who works the doors and is a seriously feared bouncer cos he don't fuck about and is a total unit.

Scary dude, would probably fuck OP.until he loved him."

I know a dude like that.. but when we discussed this he told me that he thinks in an alternative way.

Since we both had the same education we find it easy to communicate but definitely not agree on terms when I call him as a gamma/altered or alterable.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My Dom is an amazing Dom, completely alpha, but also bi, I’m not sure I understand your question?

Does your Dom comes towards you.. or you are the one running after him. Simple as that.

He only has to raise an eyebrow, still not sure your question makes sense

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Oh lord

You know what I was saying on Lickety's thread last night?...

Well, that! "

Mmhm

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

My first Dom was bi. I'm not really sure I understand the question.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For an alpha it definitely is! Because alpha is the ruler and the law, he makes the choices and make them applied.

Think you'll find that's Judge Dredd"

Brilliantly put !

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By *icknHMan over a year ago

Ilfracombe

Sounds all a bit macho bullshit to me....

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

My Dom is an amazing Dom, completely alpha, but also bi, I’m not sure I understand your question?

Does your Dom comes towards you.. or you are the one running after him. Simple as that.

He only has to raise an eyebrow, still not sure your question makes sense "

Since it is a question a question.. it technically makes sense, it is an answer that has the possibility to be misleading. I was thought that any question is correct. No matter how it could seem stupid or out of place.

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge.

So you are assuming once a guy is bi, he is a bottom and no longer alpha?

Exactly."

Wow

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My Dom is an amazing Dom, completely alpha, but also bi, I’m not sure I understand your question?

Does your Dom comes towards you.. or you are the one running after him. Simple as that.

He only has to raise an eyebrow, still not sure your question makes sense

I apologise, I wasn’t really thinking and should not have said it doesn’t make sense. I should say I really don’t understand what you mean.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sounds all a bit macho bullshit to me...."

This

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By *addyBabygirl2020Couple over a year ago

norwich

I know one gay dude who works the doors and is a seriously feared bouncer cos he don't fuck about and is a total unit.

Scary dude, would probably fuck OP.until he loved him.

I'm not sure being scary and having people fear you are positive attributes

I'm not saying it is, but in a purely animalistic sense of an aplha it probably is. My point qas just to say to OP that this guy is gay as they come but undeniably aplha AF.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I know one gay dude who works the doors and is a seriously feared bouncer cos he don't fuck about and is a total unit.

Scary dude, would probably fuck OP.until he loved him.

I'm not sure being scary and having people fear you are positive attributes

I'm not saying it is, but in a purely animalistic sense of an aplha it probably is. My point qas just to say to OP that this guy is gay as they come but undeniably aplha AF."

I just wanted to remind you that “human being” is technically part of the animal dominion.

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By *ex HolesMan over a year ago

Up North

I make alphas fuck other alphas.

You may kiss my ring

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Any guy that needs to empathise he’s Alpha is far from it in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I make alphas fuck other alphas.

You may kiss my ring

Aha hahahahah ha u r fun!

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I love pseudo evo psych BS.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Any guy that needs to empathise he’s Alpha is far from it in my opinion. "

Correct. As he needs no opinion.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

There was a discussion about time travel. This post is proof it's possible. Ignorance wasn't bliss then and it's certainly not now. 0

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How does it it work?

As it seems to be a concept that is unfathomable to you, I’ll keep it simple. A bi/bi-curious man who is also dominant ... I am not sure it can get any easier.

I suspect that you may be under the crazy illusion that being bi/bi-curious somehow invalidates you from being a Dominant. So let me ask you if you have two bi-men and one is dominating the other are they both then submissive’s because they are bi?

How about if a bi-guy dominates a woman, who is the submissive there?

Let really complicate it and extend that a touch - a couple meets a bi guy and the bi guy dominates the couple, does that make them all submissive ... apart from the straight guy who is being dominated by the bi guy obviously?

OP your profile does state you are not ‘open minded’ and I do hope this gives you something to think about and helps.

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By *isAdventure69Woman over a year ago

Hampshire

"For an alpha it definitely is! Because alpha is the ruler and the law, he makes the choices and make them applied.

Think you'll find that's Judge Dredd"

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple over a year ago

Back of the bins.

So are you saying for a guy to be bi he had to receive anal sex?

Let me clarify this.

Where you stick your penis and what goes in your arse had nothing to do with sexuality.

I (The Boy) am bisexual.

This means I’m open to sexual and romantic relationships with all genders.

I do not give Anal to any gender (don’t like it, never had a good experience).

I do not receive Anal (medical reasons).

This doesn’t make me any less bi than anyone else.

You need to think carefully before making stupid generalised comments.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS over a year ago

London

"There was a discussion about time travel. This post is proof it's possible. Ignorance wasn't bliss then and it's certainly not now. 0"

Especially when you read his statement in this :

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge.

So you are assuming once a guy is bi, he is a bottom and no longer alpha? "

Exactly.

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By *urious_Female89Woman over a year ago

great yarmouth

Why does being bi stop you from being an alpha??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wow, this was certainly the wrong thread to read at 6am

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Wow, this was certainly the wrong thread to read at 6am

Yep, I'm out of here (I'm not a celebrity though)

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By *lasphemousGirlWoman over a year ago

Cambs

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge.

So you are assuming once a guy is bi, he is a bottom and no longer alpha?

Exactly."

Oh honey, you really haven't got a clue.

Good luck on here, you'll need it with your narrow views.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So are you saying for a guy to be bi he had to receive anal sex?

Let me clarify this.

Where you stick your penis and what goes in your arse had nothing to do with sexuality.

I (The Boy) am bisexual.

This means I’m open to sexual and romantic relationships with all genders.

I do not give Anal to any gender (don’t like it, never had a good experience).

I do not receive Anal (medical reasons).

This doesn’t make me any less bi than anyone else.

You need to think carefully before making stupid generalised comments. "

Thanks for reminding me something I undervalued.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge.

So you are assuming once a guy is bi, he is a bottom and no longer alpha?

Exactly.

Oh honey, you really haven't got a clue.

Good luck on here, you'll need it with your narrow views.

As I previously said.. I need people to tell me things exactly as they are, probably that’s just because I have very limited “knowledge” in the matter.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"How does it it work?

As it seems to be a concept that is unfathomable to you, I’ll keep it simple. A bi/bi-curious man who is also dominant ... I am not sure it can get any easier.

How about if a bi-guy dominates a woman, who is the submissive there?

OP your profile does state you are not ‘open minded’ and I do hope this gives you something to think about and helps.

Very helpful indeed. One thing I did not understand is this passage: “a couple.. does that make them all submissive ... apart from the straight guy who is being dominated by the bi guy”; my question in this case would be how can someone who is being dominated not be submissive?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I do wish I could indulge in the vagaries of youth OP I really do!

Perhaps some background reading would help clear up the confusion on your post? Get yourself a book on the Alpha Female by C C Lyons. The narrative explains the traits of such women and the variances of the personality attributes such people have that make them popular, successful and generally born leaders. The study does state that sexuality of a born leader plays little part in that process. The same could be said about men but women are generally stronger.

As an aside Donald Trump has been described as an Alpha male which really makes your observation somewhat suspicious?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Very helpful indeed. One thing I did not understand is this passage: “a couple.. does that make them all submissive ... apart from the straight guy who is being dominated by the bi guy”; my question in this case would be how can someone who is being dominated not be submissive?"

That comment was there to reinforce the point that Dominance is about power exchange which means a straight man can be dominated by a bi man and still be straight.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That comment was there to reinforce the point that Dominance is about power exchange which means a straight man can be dominated by a bi man and still be straight."

The point is sexuality has little or no bearing on a propensity to become let’s call it a leader.

The Lyons book cites a number of examples of women who are industry or community leaders that in certain circumstances like to give up control usually in their sexual activity.

I suppose on a sex site the first reference will always be the bedroom antics but there is a lot more to it than a sexlife.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge.

So you are assuming once a guy is bi, he is a bottom and no longer alpha?

Exactly."

Then you assumed wrong, eh?!

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

Anybody who says they are an alpha male usually isn't. They just are and often complete prats in my opinion.

Sexuality has no part in this at all.

And not sure that doormen or bouncers are alpha automatically. They are mainly guys earning a few extra quid and the odd one on an ego trip.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Anybody who says they are an alpha male usually isn't. They just are and often complete prats in my opinion.

Sexuality has no part in this at all.

And not sure that doormen or bouncers are alpha automatically. They are mainly guys earning a few extra quid and the odd one on an ego trip. "

Lol, who cares about the career or work activity they pursue?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge.

So you are assuming once a guy is bi, he is a bottom and no longer alpha?

Exactly.

Well, it is possibility. I think that may be the reason the post has been brought up.

Then you assumed wrong, eh?!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There is no such thing anymore, anyway

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

That comment was there to reinforce the point that Dominance is about power exchange which means a straight man can be dominated by a bi man and still be straight."

You are confusing me now.. we are not talking about how straight is the guy who gets dominated.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Lololol you literally don't have a scooby what you're on about. Take your pseudo-intellectual bs elsewhere

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

That comment was there to reinforce the point that Dominance is about power exchange which means a straight man can be dominated by a bi man and still be straight.

The point is sexuality has little or no bearing on a propensity to become let’s call it a leader.

The Lyons book cites a number of examples of women who are industry or community leaders that in certain circumstances like to give up control usually in their sexual activity.

I suppose on a sex site the first reference will always be the bedroom antics but there is a lot more to it than a sexlife."

Are you emphasising that I should rely on “one individual’s opinion or study” to understand the matter or just just suggesting that singular script is the answer or maybe saying I should just learn more?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Lololol you literally don't have a scooby what you're on about. Take your pseudo-intellectual bs elsewhere

???

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By *emini ManMan over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

It really is quite simple OP

Being bisexual or gay doesn't mean you can't also be alpha or dominant.

Bisexuality does not equal submissive (although it can do).

I'm both bisexual and submissive - but have in the past met a couple where he was most definitely dominant and alpha *and* bisexual - she was submissive and enjoyed watching him assert his dominance over me.

Not sure what you would find confusing about that?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Anybody who says they are an alpha male usually isn't. They just are and often complete prats in my opinion.

Sexuality has no part in this at all.

And not sure that doormen or bouncers are alpha automatically. They are mainly guys earning a few extra quid and the odd one on an ego trip. "

Good God, there's a first time for everything. I agree (on this occasion), with Essex Tom.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Is this still going?

People are dom, sub, switch, or don't do that.

People are (insert whatever sexuality here).

It's a bit like saying that people with naturally brown hair can't have blue eyes. It's nonsense. (Also, hi, it me)

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Anybody who says they are an alpha male usually isn't. They just are and often complete prats in my opinion.

Sexuality has no part in this at all.

And not sure that doormen or bouncers are alpha automatically. They are mainly guys earning a few extra quid and the odd one on an ego trip.

Good God, there's a first time for everything. I agree (on this occasion), with Essex Tom."

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

I know one gay dude who works the doors and is a seriously feared bouncer cos he don't fuck about and is a total unit.

Scary dude, would probably fuck OP.until he loved him.

I'm not sure being scary and having people fear you are positive attributes

For an alpha it definitely is! Because alpha is the ruler and the law, he makes the choices and make them applied."

This is utter tripe. What man wants to be feared frankly at all, and what man wants to be geared in a sexual liaison?! Certainly not one I'd like to meet and I'm sub. I value my safety - I don't want to meet some eejit on an ego trip.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

I know one gay dude who works the doors and is a seriously feared bouncer cos he don't fuck about and is a total unit.

Scary dude, would probably fuck OP.until he loved him.

I'm not sure being scary and having people fear you are positive attributes

For an alpha it definitely is! Because alpha is the ruler and the law, he makes the choices and make them applied.

This is utter tripe. What man wants to be feared frankly at all, and what man wants to be geared* in a sexual liaison?! Certainly not one I'd like to meet and I'm sub. I value my safety - I don't want to meet some eejit on an ego trip."

*Not geared, FEARED ffs!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You sound like a cave man op

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I know one gay dude who works the doors and is a seriously feared bouncer cos he don't fuck about and is a total unit.

Scary dude, would probably fuck OP.until he loved him.

I'm not sure being scary and having people fear you are positive attributes

For an alpha it definitely is! Because alpha is the ruler and the law, he makes the choices and make them applied.

My understanding is that this sort of evo psych stuff is based on a pretty thin gruel of evidence. And I mean the papers, not the chest beating spin off.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I know one gay dude who works the doors and is a seriously feared bouncer cos he don't fuck about and is a total unit.

Scary dude, would probably fuck OP.until he loved him.

I'm not sure being scary and having people fear you are positive attributes

For an alpha it definitely is! Because alpha is the ruler and the law, he makes the choices and make them applied.

Usually they don’t want to.. but their attitude and looks makes people think of something like that. If you get to know one person: you may discover the traits of their personality that are hidden from the sight. People do have prejudice thought, so it will be more difficult to approach someone who looks like that, because they have a character that is quite offensive. If you are willing to learn and curious about why someone might be doing things in a certain way.. which could be also misleading or misunderstood by others then I’m sure you will find the way to understand people.

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

Holy fuckballs

I've not read all of the comments, so probably gonna repeat but here ya go kiddo.

An "alpha" has sweet fuck all to do with sexuality.

It's a person whom you trust has the knowledge and attributes about them to keep you safe from harm, someone who has strong morals and core values. Someone who you would turn to in a crisis not necessarily to fix things for you, but to give you the tools to fix things yourself.

Alpha to me is experience, presence, maturity, understanding, caring, listening and teaching.

I think you're a little confused between an Alpha male and a bully.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Holy fuckballs

I've not read all of the comments, so probably gonna repeat but here ya go kiddo.

An "alpha" has sweet fuck all to do with sexuality.

Alpha to me is experience, presence, maturity, understanding, caring, listening and teaching.

I think you're a little confused between an Alpha male and a bully. "

Thank you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Aren't those just the hallmarks of a good partner?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Aren't those just the hallmarks of a good partner?"

Not just of a good parter.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"You sound like a cave man op "

What is a cave man like? Never met one lol

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

I know one gay dude who works the doors and is a seriously feared bouncer cos he don't fuck about and is a total unit.

Scary dude, would probably fuck OP.until he loved him.

I'm not sure being scary and having people fear you are positive attributes

For an alpha it definitely is! Because alpha is the ruler and the law, he makes the choices and make them applied.

Well fuck knows how my husband is dominant in the bedroom then. There's not a single thing about him outwardly that suggests anything. People are shocked to find out what our sexual dynamic is because of ridiculous stereotypes like this.

I understand people by getting to know them, not by looking at their outward appearance and making assumptions. As they say, assumptions are the mother of all fuck-ups.

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By *mokes n MirrorsCouple over a year ago

Plymouth and Newcastle (sometimes)

For an alpha it definitely is! Because alpha is the ruler and the law, he makes the choices and make them applied."

What an absolute crock of shit from a homophobic neanderthal.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You sound like a cave man op

What is a cave man like? Never met one lol "

Stuck in the dark ages.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS over a year ago

Cheshire

"Holy fuckballs

I've not read all of the comments, so probably gonna repeat but here ya go kiddo.

An "alpha" has sweet fuck all to do with sexuality.

Alpha to me is experience, presence, maturity, understanding, caring, listening and teaching.

I think you're a little confused between an Alpha male and a bully. "

Perfectly put

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"You sound like a cave man op

What is a cave man like? Never met one lol

Stuck in the dark ages. "

I wis you could be my “Prometheus”

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By *iddlesticksMan over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

I usually stay away from any thread like this however.

Having read your profile young man, I very much feel that you consider yourself educated and sophisticated (I have no doubt that you may be) which somehow puts you ahead of your peers.

Unfortunately when you post an opinion there is much more to learn about a person from their reaction to a differing or opposing view, than there is to be learnt from the original opinion which becomes immaterial.

And of course, if you ask a question, which effectively you did, there is an obligation to consider the answers you receive be they incongruous with your preconceived ideas or not.

Anyway I’ll get back in my box now.

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By *igmaMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

"You sound like a cave man op

What is a cave man like? Never met one lol

Stuck in the dark ages.

I wis you could be my “Prometheus”

Good put down!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think the question is this; how can an Alpha be willing to take it in the ass from another guy when being alpha usually means being in complete control.

To be the person taking it you have to give up quite a lot of control, which could also be described as submitting which would not be the trait of an alpha.

Idk if I agree or disagree with it personally as it's not a situation I have ever found myself in and I am very much a switch (also completely straight, not even curious)

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I think the question is this; how can an Alpha be willing to take it in the ass from another guy when being alpha usually means being in complete control.

To be the person taking it you have to give up quite a lot of control, which could also be described as submitting which would not be the trait of an alpha.

Idk if I agree or disagree with it personally as it's not a situation I have ever found myself in and I am very much a switch (also completely straight, not even curious)"

But being bi doesn't mean you "take it" or want to "take it" in the ass. It means you have sexual attraction to bother genders.

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By *ingle ex cuckMan over a year ago

chester

My ex wife’s lover was alpha and he was orally bi

So can you understand this any better now.

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By *eard-lincolnMan over a year ago

near lincoln

Have a trip to the bi black men’s club. You will soon find what your looking for there. And you may even enjoy it. Just make sure the lights are off so your god can’t see you.

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"I think the question is this; how can an Alpha be willing to take it in the ass from another guy when being alpha usually means being in complete control.

To be the person taking it you have to give up quite a lot of control, which could also be described as submitting which would not be the trait of an alpha.

Idk if I agree or disagree with it personally as it's not a situation I have ever found myself in and I am very much a switch (also completely straight, not even curious)"

This is the kind of bullshit that leads to ideas like "Dominant men don't give head". Sex acts are not inherently dominant or submissive.

Also not all gay/bi men "take it inthe ass" or even have anal sex at all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the question is this; how can an Alpha be willing to take it in the ass from another guy when being alpha usually means being in complete control.

To be the person taking it you have to give up quite a lot of control, which could also be described as submitting which would not be the trait of an alpha.

Idk if I agree or disagree with it personally as it's not a situation I have ever found myself in and I am very much a switch (also completely straight, not even curious)

But being bi doesn't mean you "take it" or want to "take it" in the ass. It means you have sexual attraction to bother genders. "

Yeah, but that's what it sounds like the original post is getting at. As I said, I personally dont have an opinion on it purely for the fact that I'm not Bi, I'm not Alpha and I'm not a Dom so I literally couldnt put myself in a person's shoes who is to give any kind of answer.

A lot of the above comments didnt answer the question being asked, "My whatever's partner was Alpha and he was bi" sure makes sense from that person's perspective but from the perspective of the OP it sounds as though they see an Alpha as someone who is similar to as I described.

Also idk if I would say it is the same mentality as "real men dont give head" because it's not the same thing. That comes from a weird gender superiority complex wheras Alpha from what I can gather from the perspective of most of the posters here is about the control dynamic in the bedroom.

If I was to weigh in an opinion it would be that just like with any sub/dom relationship the person really in charge is the sub. As much as the dom may have control in the moment it's all about consent and if the sub doesnt want to do something doesnt matter how much he wants to it's still no.

Unless I'm taking 2 completely different things and making them 1 ??

I'll be honest, I'm about 6 months out of an 8 year relationship so cant say I've been in the dynamic to understand it any further.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Have a trip to the bi black men’s club. You will soon find what your looking for there. And you may even enjoy it. Just make sure the lights are off so your god can’t see you. "

Lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Thanks Old Guy! I love your profile and think you can actually tell me something interesting. I actually don’t consider myself any ahead my peers knowing that they just have traits that differ from mine and always looking for the ones whom got something I could learn. Sophisticated? I don’t know Rick..said the Owl! He walks with all people, even those whom are incompatible.. I checked on him! But, at night he doesn’t sit at tables with the last ones nor sleep with them

Can I mail you privately.. I’d like to know Harry and learn a few new tricks :-

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I think the question is this; how can an Alpha be willing to take it in the ass from another guy when being alpha usually means being in complete control.

To be the person taking it you have to give up quite a lot of control, which could also be described as submitting which would not be the trait of an alpha.

Idk if I agree or disagree with it personally as it's not a situation I have ever found myself in and I am very much a switch (also completely straight, not even curious)

But being bi doesn't mean you "take it" or want to "take it" in the ass. It means you have sexual attraction to bother genders.

Unless I'm taking 2 completely different things and making them 1 ??

I'll be honest, I'm about 6 months out of an 8 year relationship so cant say I've been in the dynamic to understand it any further."

And yep I think this is where you get my point! Is the Dom in charge or the subs?

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

"I think the question is this; how can an Alpha be willing to take it in the ass from another guy when being alpha usually means being in complete control.

To be the person taking it you have to give up quite a lot of control, which could also be described as submitting which would not be the trait of an alpha.

Idk if I agree or disagree with it personally as it's not a situation I have ever found myself in and I am very much a switch (also completely straight, not even curious)

But being bi doesn't mean you "take it" or want to "take it" in the ass. It means you have sexual attraction to bother genders.

Unless I'm taking 2 completely different things and making them 1 ??

I'll be honest, I'm about 6 months out of an 8 year relationship so cant say I've been in the dynamic to understand it any further."

For me personally, the only real time an alpha male would display his "alphaness" in the bedroom would be to call time perhaps. Example being he picks up on nuances, he can feel a change in atmosphere and he would step in to steer things in a calm problem free direction. Nobody would see a big fuss, they would trust he has spotted something that could cause problems if it continued.

Again, for me fuck all to do with sexuality and all to do with reading people, reading a room and taking the appropriate course of action.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh dear

Why are people wasting their breath?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

Why are people wasting their breath?

Narrow mindedness, narcissism and arrogance are a dangerous mix

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Aren’t those the traits of a misanthrope?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Aren’t those the traits of a misanthrope?"

You can't just bandy words around that you think make you sound intelligent.

When the reality is you're coming across as someone that isn't very clever at all and a homophobe.

Go back to Reddit where you can be amongst your own kind

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"... La frode, ond'ogne coscienza è morsa,

può l'omo usare in colui che 'n lui fida

e in quel che fidanza non imborsa..."

Cit Dante

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Lol

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

""... La frode, ond'ogne coscienza è morsa,

può l'omo usare in colui che 'n lui fida

e in quel che fidanza non imborsa..."

Cit Dante"

This place can be like a Divine Comedy at times

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By *uriouscouple83Couple over a year ago

Worcester

I have been following this thread and have held back from posting until now as I would have been repeating a lot of the input that you have been given already, which seems to be falling on deaf ears.

What I will say is that the most intelligent people I know are those that are aware that they don’t know everything.

Those that aren’t afraid to ask questions and listen to the answers from others who are more knowledgeable in that subject and digest that information.

Those who when they have been given an opposing point of view to consider, do just that, they consider and evaluate.

It’s never wrong to change your mind, to open yourself up to knew perspectives.

What is wrong is closed mindedness.

In your position I would be thanking all of those who have given constructive and well thought out points for you to consider and really have a good think about it. Don’t just dismiss the collective wisdom of the people who have chosen to answer you just because it doesn’t fit with your preconceptions.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

If you have been reading then, you might have seen that I never opposed anybody’s idea or challenged them and thanked those who gave me constructive answers. I’m not really looking for good or wrong. That’s definitely not me lol

To be honest I received my answer.. but since I made the thread I’m still looking if I may find someone saying something “new” and also seeking an answer from Mr Fiddlestick.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you have been reading then, you might have seen that I never opposed anybody’s idea or challenged them and thanked those who gave me constructive answers. I’m not really looking for good or wrong. That’s definitely not me lol

To be honest I received my answer.. but since I made the thread I’m still looking if I may find someone saying something “new” and also seeking an answer from Mr Fiddlestick. "

Sweets, you’re a boy waiting to become a man. Take some tips from this thread from those who know...

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Thanks. I’ll try my best..

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

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By * Plus ECouple over a year ago

The South

OP, I think you're using a lot of big words in an effort to appear educated, informed and intellectual.

And failing rather badly at each.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

And I think you should know.. I can care less of your opinion.

Am I right on this?

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By *imiUKMan over a year ago

Hereford

Applying the social structure of dogs to humans is always going to be some fantastical bullshit.

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By *irty PrettyWoman over a year ago

Cardiff

1) Alpha is a discredited, outdated term. The man who first described it in wolves has since admitted he was wrong.

2) The very first line of your profile states that you’re not a swinger. Therefore you should probably not tell actual swingers how their dynamics should work. You don’t even want to meet couples, so you shouldn’t be claiming to know what a bull is.

3) Worst of all, you’re a homophobe. Others have already tried to tell you this, but a man being bi doesn’t say anything about the type of sex he likes. It doesn’t mean he is automatically submissive - there are plenty of dominant bi men, and even more who are neither dominant or submissive. Being bi doesn’t mean a man has anal sex at all, and certainly doesn’t automatically mean he receives anal sex. And most of all, receiving anal doesn’t automatically mean the person is submissive. I know straight male Doms who instruct their subs to peg them, because they enjoy the sensations of anal play. They are still the Dominant in that situation, because they have ordered their sub to peg them, and the sub is serving them by doing so. The only reason you think bi man = submissive is homophobia.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Shame there wasn't an op admission of homophobia. It was clearly explained by so many. Ignorance is fine - we all are, of many things. A willingness to learn and to accept our own mistakes is an attractive, positive attribute. Bit of a fail

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Hahahahah ahaha Very big LOOOOOL, so.. you were the one awaiting me to admit homophobia? Ahahahahha I was the one awaiting for someone to ask me about it instead of simply coming out and insinuating what was in their “preconceptions” as the word has been referred to me quite a few times; I’d like to readdress it or better I may use a new word which is prejudice (something I mentioned previously) since I believe none of those whom actually said so have the slightest idea of who I might be.

I don’t usually answer to an offence, because I believe it would just be a waist of efforts in trying to change one’s mind with a few poor or “big” words: as somebody else tried to call mines. I choose very carefully my words. Don’t play with that. Which states me the evidence of their vocabulary. By the way I believe people in here actually “must have a thing for homophobia“ and since the thread didn’t only mentioned “BEING BI” but also requested an entire criteria to so called “Alpha Male” including other they had to meet but not having to do with their sexuality, but obviously a narrow mind which has a short sight sitting in front of homophobia could only see homophobia.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

And who better to express the Anti-Homophobic Congregation of Fabs?

Obviously the idiotic OP who actually made brought up such a dangerous argument.

I can take few criticism, this is less than 0 for what I’ve been prepared to face. Tough skin, tough mind not narrow. I believe that if we only considered “open minded” without including sexual behaviour in it the most of the people whom actually commented on this thread most probably are less opened than me. Since they comment only regarding their ability to only see the “must be bi”.

I would like to ask you one more question.

Is the so called Alpha supposed to respect all the aspects of the mentioned criteria and pass a selection presenting themselves/himself as such? Why the fuck in world would an Alpha ever do that??!?!(!??

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By * Plus ECouple over a year ago

The South

I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"1) Alpha is a discredited, outdated term. The man who first described it in wolves has since admitted he was wrong.

Well I couldn't have written that better myself... Well said

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The reason why you're getting so much negativity OP is because of the argumentative patronising way you choose to present yourself.

If you want to ask questions and have a discussion about something- then there are ways to approach it without coming across as arrogant.

There are many people on this forum with a lot of experiences and advice to give.

No one likes a know-it-all.

But at 24 I knew everything too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The reason why you're getting so much negativity OP is because of the argumentative patronising way you choose to present yourself.

If you want to ask questions and have a discussion about something- then there are ways to approach it without coming across as arrogant.

There are many people on this forum with a lot of experiences and advice to give.

No one likes a know-it-all.

But at 24 I knew everything too

Except how to use the reply and quite button!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

I have no idea what that means.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"The reason why you're getting so much negativity OP is because of the argumentative patronising way you choose to present yourself.

If you want to ask questions and have a discussion about something- then there are ways to approach it without coming across as arrogant.

There are many people on this forum with a lot of experiences and advice to give.

No one likes a know-it-all.

But at 24 I knew everything too

Lol

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By *ablo minibar123Woman over a year ago

"I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

He was a very wise man.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

And I could say what you consider wise I could consider heretical, but I don’t doubt of him. Hence I don’t know him.

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

I'm confused why this thread has gone on so long since your thread title and original comment don't match.

Title says Alpha.

Opening post says dominant type guys with huge cocks and confident but must be bi.

Quite simply two completely different people.

Ignoring the fact plenty of people have explained why this is perfectly possible you've asked a futile question at the outset.

And then stropped at every response.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

This thread really is proof that nothing good comes out of people thinking they are 'alpha'.

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"This thread really is proof that nothing good comes out of people thinking they are 'alpha'. "

Going as well as it did for Alpha in TWD

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By *igmaMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

Only another 47 to go then it’s dead

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By * Plus ECouple over a year ago

The South

"I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

I have no idea what that means. "

Correct, you have no idea what "open minded" means.

An explanation of a statement in your biog:

Open minded could mean will consider being sexually intimate with someone of your own sex.

Open minded does not mean will only be sexually intimate with someone of your own sex. (As per your biog statement)

I hope that's a little clearer for you now.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

I have no idea what that means.

Correct, you have no idea what "open minded" means.

An explanation of a statement in your biog:

Open minded could mean will consider being sexually intimate with someone of your own sex.

Open minded does not mean will only be sexually intimate with someone of your own sex. (As per your biog statement)

I hope that's a little clearer for you now.

Not really. You didn’t added anything new to my conception of “open minded”.

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By *umstibleMan over a year ago

Colindale

I have read a few of the comments OP and i get the feeling that there is a confusion between being MACHO and being ALPHA.

In context;

An alpha is a born leader as the term dictates. The alpha person, male or female, will have;

charisma (look at most world leaders)

a great inner motivation, especially in adversity (great alpahas emerge from the most hardest of conditions)

Great perception of reality

(This is hard to explain but, someone who is well aware of what is happening around them, able to think ahead. You cannot be an alpha just by being brave, this is a hero, or by being strong, this is a protagonist, or even by being a leader, this could be just circumstance, alpha always makes his or her own way)

And obviously, you can be a male or a female to be an alpha, there are no genders for this CHARACTERISTIC.

macho on the other hand is what you are confusing the alpha term with. Someone who is not a leader so to speak but will not be bent to just anyone, who takes control because hes ego wouldn't let him follow, is too proud to suck dick or even be around a bigger dick because of pride or again, ego.

I hope this explains a little.

Alpha and macho are not in the same.

Alpha is a human condition, regardless of sexual preferences or gender. Macho on the other hand can only be straight, egoistic, proud etc etc it is a mainly male condition.

So when people are asking for alphas, dont get them confused with machos. An alpha bull can br a gay person, a woman, a trans person etc etc

A macho is someone with grandeur belief of him or herself and only thinks of themself's as the natural leader but really doesn't bring much to the table apart from raw strength at times and ego, pride etc

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I have read a few of the comments OP and i get the feeling that there is a confusion between being MACHO and being ALPHA.

In context;

An alpha is a born leader as the term dictates. The alpha person, male or female, will have;

charisma (look at most world leaders)

a great inner motivation, especially in adversity (great alpahas emerge from the most hardest of conditions)

Great perception of reality

And obviously, you can be a male or a female to be an alpha, there are no genders for this CHARACTERISTIC.

I hope this explains a little.

Alpha and macho are not in the same.

Alpha is a human condition, regardless of sexual preferences or gender. Macho on the other hand can only be straight, egoistic, proud etc etc it is a mainly male condition.

So when people are asking for alphas, dont get them confused with machos. An alpha bull can br a gay person, a woman, a trans person etc etc

Thanks man! Just want to remind you Alpha is from the entire world do minus either animal or plant and is a character of predominance that does not alterate. Not just a mere human condition. Thank you anyway very helpful.

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By *umstibleMan over a year ago

Colindale

"I have read a few of the comments OP and i get the feeling that there is a confusion between being MACHO and being ALPHA.

In context;

An alpha is a born leader as the term dictates. The alpha person, male or female, will have;

charisma (look at most world leaders)

a great inner motivation, especially in adversity (great alpahas emerge from the most hardest of conditions)

Great perception of reality

And obviously, you can be a male or a female to be an alpha, there are no genders for this CHARACTERISTIC.

I hope this explains a little.

Alpha and macho are not in the same.

Alpha is a human condition, regardless of sexual preferences or gender. Macho on the other hand can only be straight, egoistic, proud etc etc it is a mainly male condition.

So when people are asking for alphas, dont get them confused with machos. An alpha bull can br a gay person, a woman, a trans person etc etc

Very true, the alpha wolf or the alpha dog, lion, lioness etc etc

Can be found all over the globe.

My point was, you can find an alpha dressed up in drag but you will never find a macho there.

Macho's for instance don't even feel comfortable wearing a pink t-shirt lol male macho's atleast.

This is the difference between them. Hence i believe why the confusion and misunderstanding in this thread.

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By *imon_hydeMan over a year ago

Stockport

I almost wish that my self belief was this concrete, wow. Then I'm so glad it isn't.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have read a few of the comments OP and i get the feeling that there is a confusion between being MACHO and being ALPHA.

In context;

An alpha is a born leader as the term dictates. The alpha person, male or female, will have;

charisma (look at most world leaders)

a great inner motivation, especially in adversity (great alpahas emerge from the most hardest of conditions)

Great perception of reality

And obviously, you can be a male or a female to be an alpha, there are no genders for this CHARACTERISTIC.

I hope this explains a little.

Alpha and macho are not in the same.

Alpha is a human condition, regardless of sexual preferences or gender. Macho on the other hand can only be straight, egoistic, proud etc etc it is a mainly male condition.

So when people are asking for alphas, dont get them confused with machos. An alpha bull can br a gay person, a woman, a trans person etc etc

Very true, the alpha wolf or the alpha dog, lion, lioness etc etc

Can be found all over the globe.

My point was, you can find an alpha dressed up in drag but you will never find a macho there.

Macho's for instance don't even feel comfortable wearing a pink t-shirt lol male macho's atleast.

This is the difference between them. Hence i believe why the confusion and misunderstanding in this thread."

I'm tired of people assuming I mean macho whenever I say alpha, and then having a go at me for their misunderstanding.

Thank you for explaining this

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There is no such thing as Alpha in humans!

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"There is no such thing as Alpha in humans! "

Possibly only in their own heads.

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By * Plus ECouple over a year ago

The South

"I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

I have no idea what that means.

Correct, you have no idea what "open minded" means.

An explanation of a statement in your biog:

Open minded could mean will consider being sexually intimate with someone of your own sex.

Open minded does not mean will only be sexually intimate with someone of your own sex. (As per your biog statement)

I hope that's a little clearer for you now.

Not really. You didn’t added anything new to my conception of “open minded”."

Really?

Maybe read your own biog, then read what I wrote again.

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By *umstibleMan over a year ago

Colindale

"There is no such thing as Alpha in humans! "

True scientifically speaking. There is a characteristic called 'commander'

I believe this what people refer to when they say alpha, i always presume this.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

I have no idea what that means.

Correct, you have no idea what "open minded" means.

An explanation of a statement in your biog:

Open minded could mean will consider being sexually intimate with someone of your own sex.

Open minded does not mean will only be sexually intimate with someone of your own sex. (As per your biog statement)

I hope that's a little clearer for you now.

Not really. You didn’t added anything new to my conception of “open minded”.

Really?

Maybe read your own biog, then read what I wrote again.

Considering you as part of the multitude of people whom find so interesting my “not open minded” I tried to come towards you with something that might or not give you an idea of what “not open minded” meant. In that case you added. The definition itself as I known has not changed in its concept, so in this case u you did not add.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

I have no idea what that means.

Correct, you have no idea what "open minded" means.

An explanation of a statement in your biog:

Open minded could mean will consider being sexually intimate with someone of your own sex.

Open minded does not mean will only be sexually intimate with someone of your own sex. (As per your biog statement)

I hope that's a little clearer for you now.

Not really. You didn’t added anything new to my conception of “open minded”.

Really?

Maybe read your own biog, then read what I wrote again.

Fondest congrats on mastering the reply and quote button, you are the alpha now, all the best to you both.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

Lol

I have no idea what that means.

Correct, you have no idea what "open minded" means.

An explanation of a statement in your biog:

Open minded could mean will consider being sexually intimate with someone of your own sex.

Open minded does not mean will only be sexually intimate with someone of your own sex. (As per your biog statement)

I hope that's a little clearer for you now.

Not really. You didn’t added anything new to my conception of “open minded”.

Really?

Maybe read your own biog, then read what I wrote again.

Fondest congrats on mastering the reply and quote button, you are the alpha now, all the best to you both."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

Lol

I have no idea what that means.

Correct, you have no idea what "open minded" means.

An explanation of a statement in your biog:

Open minded could mean will consider being sexually intimate with someone of your own sex.

Open minded does not mean will only be sexually intimate with someone of your own sex. (As per your biog statement)

I hope that's a little clearer for you now.

Not really. You didn’t added anything new to my conception of “open minded”.

Really?

Maybe read your own biog, then read what I wrote again.

Fondest congrats on mastering the reply and quote button, you are the alpha now, all the best to you both."

So close, try again

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By * Plus ECouple over a year ago

The South

"I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

I have no idea what that means.

Correct, you have no idea what "open minded" means.

An explanation of a statement in your biog:

Open minded could mean will consider being sexually intimate with someone of your own sex.

Open minded does not mean will only be sexually intimate with someone of your own sex. (As per your biog statement)

I hope that's a little clearer for you now.

Not really. You didn’t added anything new to my conception of “open minded”.

Really?

Maybe read your own biog, then read what I wrote again.

I don't need an idea about what open minded means, I'm talking about what you think it means, as you clearly state on your biog.

You're quite clear in your biog about what you believe open minded to mean.

I'm saying you're wrong in your belief.

I think if you wrote less and read more it would help.

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By * Plus ECouple over a year ago

The South

"I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

Lol

I have no idea what that means.

Correct, you have no idea what "open minded" means.

An explanation of a statement in your biog:

Open minded could mean will consider being sexually intimate with someone of your own sex.

Open minded does not mean will only be sexually intimate with someone of your own sex. (As per your biog statement)

I hope that's a little clearer for you now.

Not really. You didn’t added anything new to my conception of “open minded”.

Really?

Maybe read your own biog, then read what I wrote again.

Fondest congrats on mastering the reply and quote button, you are the alpha now, all the best to you both.

So close, try again "

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

I have no idea what that means.

Correct, you have no idea what "open minded" means.

An explanation of a statement in your biog:

Open minded could mean will consider being sexually intimate with someone of your own sex.

Open minded does not mean will only be sexually intimate with someone of your own sex. (As per your biog statement)

I hope that's a little clearer for you now.

Not really. You didn’t added anything new to my conception of “open minded”.

Really?

Maybe read your own biog, then read what I wrote again.

I don't need an idea about what open minded means, I'm talking about what you think it means, as you clearly state on your biog.

You're quite clear in your biog about what you believe open minded to mean.

I'm saying you're wrong in your belief.

I think if you wrote less and read more it would help.

Alrighty, you are trying to tell me u can see within my thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

In my bio it was stated as “ I am not open minded either, since on here it seems to be a euphemism to willing to play with the same sex.”

Can you please rewrite this using different words?

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By *argaret James200TV/TS over a year ago

Birmingham

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge.

So you are assuming once a guy is bi, he is a bottom and no longer alpha?

Exactly."

OMG your so yesterday, please catch up with the rest of the human race.

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By * Plus ECouple over a year ago

The South

"I suggest you re-assess what "open minded" means.

In the words of Inigo Montoya; "I don't think it means what you think it means"

I have no idea what that means.

Correct, you have no idea what "open minded" means.

An explanation of a statement in your biog:

Open minded could mean will consider being sexually intimate with someone of your own sex.

Open minded does not mean will only be sexually intimate with someone of your own sex. (As per your biog statement)

I hope that's a little clearer for you now.

Not really. You didn’t added anything new to my conception of “open minded”.

Really?

Maybe read your own biog, then read what I wrote again.

I don't need an idea about what open minded means, I'm talking about what you think it means, as you clearly state on your biog.

You're quite clear in your biog about what you believe open minded to mean.

I'm saying you're wrong in your belief.

I think if you wrote less and read more it would help.

Alrighty, you are trying to tell me u can see within my thoughts?"

No. But I can read what you wrote.

And I'm saying, yet again, being open minded doesn't specifically mean what you say it does on your biog.

I can't make up my mind if you're being deliberately obtuse, or you really are obtuse.

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By * Plus ECouple over a year ago

The South

"In my bio it was stated as “ I am not open minded either, since on here it seems to be a euphemism to willing to play with the same sex.”

Can you please rewrite this using different words?"

No need, you've done it yourself.

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

Alpha males are men that we like to follow and naturally gravitate to. They are the ring leaders and the generals. To train a dog we must show them that we are the aplpha. Yes there are power struggles at times but we are just like packs of wolves when it comes down to it..

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

Alpha to me does suggest animals or from how to train your dragon films.

But to be an alpha you must have a pack do you not? And as Kipling wrote "For the strength of the pack is the wolf, and the strength of the wolf is the pack". Which kind of sums all this alpha nonsense for me, one is reliant on the other, so where does the true power lie? In my opinion in all of them.

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By *oan of DArcCouple over a year ago

Glasgow

I know one gay dude who works the doors and is a seriously feared bouncer cos he don't fuck about and is a total unit.

Scary dude, would probably fuck OP.until he loved him.

I'm not sure being scary and having people fear you are positive attributes

For an alpha it definitely is! Because alpha is the ruler and the law, he makes the choices and make them applied."

Even within that narrow view the subject can definitely be gay or bi, baffled why you'd believe otherwise!

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

The power in the pack lies with the alpha male.. the others roll over and have their bellies tickled...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In my bio it was stated as “ I am not open minded either, since on here it seems to be a euphemism to willing to play with the same sex.”

Can you please rewrite this using different words?"

"Whilst I am open minded, I don't play with guys"

That's all it needs

No need for the side slanted sneer at those who do play with others of the same sex

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In the business world the concept of alpha has been considered and it has some merit in leadership terms. The characteristics are gender neutral and sexuality neutral and as such are more based around particular personality types, underpinned by attributes such as courage, confidence, intensity, energetic persistence and tenacity, with big ambitions and a competitive drive. However the ways they express their ‘alphaness’ may be different. The archetypes are

Commanders: Intense, magnetic leaders who set the tone, mobilise their people and energise action with authoritative strength and passionate motivation without necessarily digging into the details.

Visionaries: Curious, expansive, intuitive, proactive and future-oriented, they see possibilities and opportunities that others sometimes dismiss as impractical or unlikely and inspire others with their vision.

Strategists: Methodical, systematic, often brilliant thinkers who are oriented toward data and facts, they have excellent analytic judgment and a sharp eye for patterns and problems.

Executors: Tireless, goal-oriented doers who push plans forward with an eye for detail, relentless discipline and keen oversight, surmounting all obstacles and holding everyone accountable for their commitments.

Whether the alpha tag is useful is debatable, but the concept is worth considering.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In the business world the concept of alpha has been considered and it has some merit in leadership terms. The characteristics are gender neutral and sexuality neutral and as such are more based around particular personality types, underpinned by attributes such as courage, confidence, intensity, energetic persistence and tenacity, with big ambitions and a competitive drive. However the ways they express their ‘alphaness’ may be different. The archetypes are

Commanders: Intense, magnetic leaders who set the tone, mobilise their people and energise action with authoritative strength and passionate motivation without necessarily digging into the details.

Strategists: Methodical, systematic, often brilliant thinkers who are oriented toward data and facts, they have excellent analytic judgment and a sharp eye for patterns and problems.

Whether the alpha tag is useful is debatable, but the concept is worth considering."

Interesting that Doc

I think I sit in the strategist category

I can't be alpha tho, cos I've occasionally played with other guys jacksies

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Commanders: Intense, magnetic leaders who set the tone, mobilise their people and energise action with authoritative strength and passionate motivation without necessarily digging into the details.

Strategists: Methodical, systematic, often brilliant thinkers who are oriented toward data and facts, they have excellent analytic judgment and a sharp eye for patterns and problems.

Whether the alpha tag is useful is debatable, but the concept is worth considering.

Interesting that Doc

I think I sit in the strategist category

I can't be alpha tho, cos I've occasionally played with other guys jacksies

I’m more in the visionary category but I’m probably not driven enough to fulfil the attributes. My days of big goals of in my past, I’m more interested in contributing and being of service these days. I’ve let go of the narcissistic belief I can transform the world

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Commanders: Intense, magnetic leaders who set the tone, mobilise their people and energise action with authoritative strength and passionate motivation without necessarily digging into the details.

Strategists: Methodical, systematic, often brilliant thinkers who are oriented toward data and facts, they have excellent analytic judgment and a sharp eye for patterns and problems.

Whether the alpha tag is useful is debatable, but the concept is worth considering.

Interesting that Doc

I think I sit in the strategist category

I can't be alpha tho, cos I've occasionally played with other guys jacksies

In reality we tend to be a combination of them too, maybe one is stronger than the other. My second suit would have been commander in my younger days. I haven’t got the energy now

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By *igmaMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

Commanders: Intense, magnetic leaders who set the tone, mobilise their people and energise action with authoritative strength and passionate motivation without necessarily digging into the details.

Strategists: Methodical, systematic, often brilliant thinkers who are oriented toward data and facts, they have excellent analytic judgment and a sharp eye for patterns and problems.

Whether the alpha tag is useful is debatable, but the concept is worth considering."

So dominance hierarchy’s do exist...

Who’d a funk it

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

Commanders: Intense, magnetic leaders who set the tone, mobilise their people and energise action with authoritative strength and passionate motivation without necessarily digging into the details.

Strategists: Methodical, systematic, often brilliant thinkers who are oriented toward data and facts, they have excellent analytic judgment and a sharp eye for patterns and problems.

Whether the alpha tag is useful is debatable, but the concept is worth considering."

Yep.. did that course too.. utter bullshit

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

Commanders: Intense, magnetic leaders who set the tone, mobilise their people and energise action with authoritative strength and passionate motivation without necessarily digging into the details.

Strategists: Methodical, systematic, often brilliant thinkers who are oriented toward data and facts, they have excellent analytic judgment and a sharp eye for patterns and problems.

Whether the alpha tag is useful is debatable, but the concept is worth considering.

Interesting that Doc

I think I sit in the strategist category

I can't be alpha tho, cos I've occasionally played with other guys jacksies

In reality we tend to be a combination of them too, maybe one is stronger than the other. My second suit would have been commander in my younger days. I haven’t got the energy now

Then you were never a commander..

That quality never leaves..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Are you saying that bi guys can't be alpha or that alpha guys can't be bi, or both?

I guess both.. since alpha means the only one in charge.

So you are assuming once a guy is bi, he is a bottom and no longer alpha?

Exactly.

OMG your so yesterday, please catch up with the rest of the human race.

Just let me go.. pick a cha..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Alpha to me does suggest animals or from how to train your dragon films.

You mean.. within humans is rather better to say Primus-inter-Paris instead of alpha, is that correct?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"The power in the pack lies with the alpha male.. the others roll over and have their bellies tickled..."

Isn’t that what we commonly call dictatorship?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"In my bio it was stated as “ I am not open minded either, since on here it seems to be a euphemism to willing to play with the same sex.”

Can you please rewrite this using different words?

"Whilst I am open minded, I don't play with guys"

That's all it needs

No need for the side slanted sneer at those who do play with others of the same sex"

Sweet, can I use your advice and write as you reported it in my bio? Thanks a lot.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Commanders: Intense, magnetic leaders who set the tone, mobilise their people and energise action with authoritative strength and passionate motivation without necessarily digging into the details.

Strategists: Methodical, systematic, often brilliant thinkers who are oriented toward data and facts, they have excellent analytic judgment and a sharp eye for patterns and problems.

Whether the alpha tag is useful is debatable, but the concept is worth considering.

Interesting that Doc

I think I sit in the strategist category

I can't be alpha tho, cos I've occasionally played with other guys jacksies

In reality we tend to be a combination of them too, maybe one is stronger than the other. My second suit would have been commander in my younger days. I haven’t got the energy now

Then you were never a commander..

That quality never leaves.. "

Being a commander is not a quality by itself. You could become a tyrant who is a commonly considered negative commander in which case would be opposed to the word quality that has a positive impact.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In my bio it was stated as “ I am not open minded either, since on here it seems to be a euphemism to willing to play with the same sex.”

Can you please rewrite this using different words?

"Whilst I am open minded, I don't play with guys"

That's all it needs

No need for the side slanted sneer at those who do play with others of the same sex

Sweet, can I use your advice and write as you reported it in my bio? Thanks a lot."

That would be lovely

Thanks

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By *uke olovingmanMan over a year ago

Gravesend

"Holy fuckballs

I've not read all of the comments, so probably gonna repeat but here ya go kiddo.

An "alpha" has sweet fuck all to do with sexuality.

Alpha to me is experience, presence, maturity, understanding, caring, listening and teaching.

I think you're a little confused between an Alpha male and a bully. "

I love you..and this definition...trump would consider himself to be the ultimate alpha ..bigly....but he's just the ultimate bully....

There's part of this thread mentioning how to train your dragon ... where the bully alpha of the tribe gets undermined by his gifted intelligent son ...who saves the day by his ingenuity...the son didn't want chiefdom...to be top dog ..

But this is a sex site ..if a couple want a sexy playmate to pound the wife a bit ..and play with the hubby as well ..then go for it if that's your thing... don't get all I'm too macho for this..how dare they suggest such a thing ...just scroll down to the next one ...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There was a comic who had a joke about this, Australian I think. Talking about the assumption that gay men are less masculine. The punchline being something like "Are you kidding? They FUCK men! What are you into, vagina? Fucking soft ass pansy!"

He told it better, but it was quite apt here.

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By *iddlesticksMan over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

Something has come to me. Haven’t through history people exhibited dominance over somebody by fucking them, including the act of men fucking men to prove their power over them.

Don’t get it myself, I much prefer transformational leadership to position myself at the top of the deck but then what do I know?

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

The whole thing of this thread is a bit weird. So a couple discuss and decide they would like another to play with them. They then come to fab and seek that extra person. They as 3 decide if they all want to play and decide the rules of that play. I see that as everyone having an equal say in how things develop. So I fail to see how one is an alpha?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Something has come to me. Haven’t through history people exhibited dominance over somebody by fucking them, including the act of men fucking men to prove their power over them.

Don’t get it myself, I much prefer transformational leadership to position myself at the top of the deck but then what do I know?

Old dude, did you ever played duel monsters?

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