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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not well read on the subject, as it doesn't really interest me.
However if it was discovered tomorrow that there is alien life somewhere out there I wouldn't be surprised in the least. |
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By *oo32Man
over a year ago
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
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Itd be nice to think that theres something out there....there could be...
I reckon when they drive past earth they lock the doors |
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
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We are made of the dust of stars. There are undoubtedly aliens out there. More likely is that they are so far away as to be irrelevant.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Considering the vastness of the universe & the billions of stars & if only a small percentage of them had habitable planets around them there must be lots of alien life out there. I've been watching programs on Quest about it & it looks like various governments around the world are keeping a lot of details about alien contact & visitations very secret. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Itd be nice to think that theres something out there....there could be...
I reckon when they drive past earth they lock the doors"
Haha 
"Nothing to see here, just another fkd up planet, next stop Jupiter"
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"Considering the vastness of the universe & the billions of stars & if only a small percentage of them had habitable planets around them there must be lots of alien life out there. I've been watching programs on Quest about it & it looks like various governments around the world are keeping a lot of details about alien contact & visitations very secret."
That's very true.
The CIA set up its own department back in the 50s for this.
As they were testing secret military stuff in the sky's around Area51 and people saw the strange movements of craft (they were testing hover technology) people thought they were UFO's.
The CIA couldn't admit to it, so they fueled UFO conspiracies and the press loved it. It was the best cover story ever.
But it makes you wonder if it's a double bluff to hide the real truth. What do they really know? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
We are made of the dust of stars. There are undoubtedly aliens out there. More likely is that they are so far away as to be irrelevant. "
This. I think it’s inconceivable that life doesn’t exist elsewhere, albeit most likely in planet-bound forms, be they humanoid or not.
For any civilisations that may have made it to interstellar travel, the challenges of which are enormous, why would they come here? Statistically it’s feasible, but incredibly slim chances I’d imagine. |
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Without a doubt, I know earth is special, the distance from the sun, planet temp and all the other rare factors that make life possible, but the numbers of stars in our own galaxy, let alone the other billions of galaxies.
The numbers are too vast to make us the only ones |
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
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My Grandad worked at area 51 for a while. He had an interesting explanation ... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
My Grandad worked at area 51 for a while. He had an interesting explanation ..."
Ooo do tell  |
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
My Grandad worked at area 51 for a while. He had an interesting explanation ...
Ooo do tell "
Well strangely one of his jobs was in fact investigating UFO sightings but not for Aliens but for Foreign tech. He designed radar systems.
The Roswell thing was them working on the stealth bomber and adding British Harrier tech. When people though tit was Aliens they went along with it like all countries do. Hence his job. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
My Grandad worked at area 51 for a while. He had an interesting explanation ...
Ooo do tell
Well strangely one of his jobs was in fact investigating UFO sightings but not for Aliens but for Foreign tech. He designed radar systems.
The Roswell thing was them working on the stealth bomber and adding British Harrier tech. When people though tit was Aliens they went along with it like all countries do. Hence his job."
It's great you have first hand knowledge
It was interesting to read about radar technology and USA + Russia spying on eachother which started the Cold War and Nuke tests.
Some of the spy planes were amazing for technology at the time.
It appears as though USA went into attack options but Russia concentrated on defence. (Whilst secretary building Sputnik)
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
My Grandad worked at area 51 for a while. He had an interesting explanation ...
Ooo do tell
Well strangely one of his jobs was in fact investigating UFO sightings but not for Aliens but for Foreign tech. He designed radar systems.
The Roswell thing was them working on the stealth bomber and adding British Harrier tech. When people though tit was Aliens they went along with it like all countries do. Hence his job.
It's great you have first hand knowledge
It was interesting to read about radar technology and USA + Russia spying on eachother which started the Cold War and Nuke tests.
Some of the spy planes were amazing for technology at the time.
It appears as though USA went into attack options but Russia concentrated on defence. (Whilst secretary building Sputnik)
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He had a lot of other crazy stories too. How he died was crazy too, radiation poisoning after being too close to a nuclear explosion in the Australian desert when they were testing systems for Ronald Raegans star wars project which never actually worked.
When he died ten years after we found all these letters from the MOD asking him to come in for testing. Of course it never officially happened so no compensation.
He was also spied on due to his dual citizenship right through his retirement. You see it turns out that whilst say the French and British are allies there military industrial complexes are in direct competition and are inclined to compete to the extend of industrial espionage and assassination if required. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
My Grandad worked at area 51 for a while. He had an interesting explanation ...
Ooo do tell
Well strangely one of his jobs was in fact investigating UFO sightings but not for Aliens but for Foreign tech. He designed radar systems.
The Roswell thing was them working on the stealth bomber and adding British Harrier tech. When people though tit was Aliens they went along with it like all countries do. Hence his job.
It's great you have first hand knowledge
It was interesting to read about radar technology and USA + Russia spying on eachother which started the Cold War and Nuke tests.
Some of the spy planes were amazing for technology at the time.
It appears as though USA went into attack options but Russia concentrated on defence. (Whilst secretary building Sputnik)
He had a lot of other crazy stories too. How he died was crazy too, radiation poisoning after being too close to a nuclear explosion in the Australian desert when they were testing systems for Ronald Raegans star wars project which never actually worked.
When he died ten years after we found all these letters from the MOD asking him to come in for testing. Of course it never officially happened so no compensation.
He was also spied on due to his dual citizenship right through his retirement. You see it turns out that whilst say the French and British are allies there military industrial complexes are in direct competition and are inclined to compete to the extend of industrial espionage and assassination if required."
I'm sorry for your loss
The Nuke tests were crazy.
Apparently they even subjected some people to radiation poisoning on purpose to see the effects.
It's a crazy world we live in. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I believe that aliens are out there. But they are in far of galaxies and the sheer distance means we would never be able to see them. I don't believe in area 51 and UFO sightings bullshit though. |
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
My Grandad worked at area 51 for a while. He had an interesting explanation ...
Ooo do tell
Well strangely one of his jobs was in fact investigating UFO sightings but not for Aliens but for Foreign tech. He designed radar systems.
The Roswell thing was them working on the stealth bomber and adding British Harrier tech. When people though tit was Aliens they went along with it like all countries do. Hence his job.
It's great you have first hand knowledge
It was interesting to read about radar technology and USA + Russia spying on eachother which started the Cold War and Nuke tests.
Some of the spy planes were amazing for technology at the time.
It appears as though USA went into attack options but Russia concentrated on defence. (Whilst secretary building Sputnik)
He had a lot of other crazy stories too. How he died was crazy too, radiation poisoning after being too close to a nuclear explosion in the Australian desert when they were testing systems for Ronald Raegans star wars project which never actually worked.
When he died ten years after we found all these letters from the MOD asking him to come in for testing. Of course it never officially happened so no compensation.
He was also spied on due to his dual citizenship right through his retirement. You see it turns out that whilst say the French and British are allies there military industrial complexes are in direct competition and are inclined to compete to the extend of industrial espionage and assassination if required.
I'm sorry for your loss
The Nuke tests were crazy.
Apparently they even subjected some people to radiation poisoning on purpose to see the effects.
It's a crazy world we live in."
Oh yes they did a lot of dodgy stuff. He hated the Portland Down guys because they would spike you with LSD for fun. I am guessing it happened to him once!
But he did have an interesting view on Aliens he said;
"given the size of the universe there probably is life out there although i have never seen it but one thing i know for a fact is that there are alternate dimensions"
I think he was hinting at the fact that whilst there are Aliens they don't come from 'out there' they are very close to us indeed. |
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Good morning cindi 
Im not too sure about aliens visiting earth, cia cover ups or other theory's that have no proof on the matter but just from a mathematical point of view, alien life is inevitable.
The drake equation explains this very eloquently. I'd suggest you watch prof. Brian cox, carl segan and neil deGrasse tyson's take on youtube. Very very informative.
As for the visiting us issue, as explained above by other users, the space is too great between us and any potential space travelling aliens. Now, we may never know their technology and advancement but the maths suggests that either, we will never meet another intelligent life form because of the difficulties in travelling great distances in short enough amount of time (same problem for the aliens) or even when we do have this technology available (assuming that so will the aliens) either they will visit us but see us and compare us as to what we compare ants to humans or vise versa, we will compare them to insignificant beings as we will be well well ahead.
The chances of us meeting intelligent life forms, on the same level of technological and cultural advancement is too small to say the least. Humans have a higher chance of extinction waaay waay before any of this is even remotely possible |
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“Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not,” according to Arthur C. Clarke, the author of 2001: A Space Odyssey. “Both are equally terrifying.”
Clarke did write a good essay on why, if there is life elsewhere in the Universe, we haven’t seen it, sadly I can’t find the reference but it’s basically a probability analysis that shows how unlikely we are to bump into anyone else from another planet.
As for Roswell, the CIA, Area 51 etc.... nah. Not buying it. No credible evidence, the “witnesses” that Discovery Channel dig up have long been discredited. |
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"Good morning cindi
Im not too sure about aliens visiting earth, cia cover ups or other theory's that have no proof on the matter but just from a mathematical point of view, alien life is inevitable.
The drake equation explains this very eloquently. I'd suggest you watch prof. Brian cox, carl segan and neil deGrasse tyson's take on youtube. Very very informative.
As for the visiting us issue, as explained above by other users, the space is too great between us and any potential space travelling aliens. Now, we may never know their technology and advancement but the maths suggests that either, we will never meet another intelligent life form because of the difficulties in travelling great distances in short enough amount of time (same problem for the aliens) or even when we do have this technology available (assuming that so will the aliens) either they will visit us but see us and compare us as to what we compare ants to humans or vise versa, we will compare them to insignificant beings as we will be well well ahead.
The chances of us meeting intelligent life forms, on the same level of technological and cultural advancement is too small to say the least. Humans have a higher chance of extinction waaay waay before any of this is even remotely possible "
Actually you just summarised the Arthur C Clarke essay I was thinking of above  |
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Possiblities of life and intelligent life are so far apart from each other. But considering that life on earth may well have come from comets hitting into the earth, then why not elsewhere in the vastness of the universe. That documentary on Netflix with Bob Lazar isn't a bad watch. Not sure I buy into it all though. |
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"Possiblities of life and intelligent life are so far apart from each other. But considering that life on earth may well have come from comets hitting into the earth, then why not elsewhere in the vastness of the universe. That documentary on Netflix with Bob Lazar isn't a bad watch. Not sure I buy into it all though. "
What i found interesting about Bob Lazaar is that he said he was told the UFO's he saw were 'found in an archaeological dig' now that opens up a completely different can of worms and actually makes his story more believable. As in these weren't alien aircraft they were human from long long ago ... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Possiblities of life and intelligent life are so far apart from each other. But considering that life on earth may well have come from comets hitting into the earth, then why not elsewhere in the vastness of the universe. That documentary on Netflix with Bob Lazar isn't a bad watch. Not sure I buy into it all though.
What i found interesting about Bob Lazaar is that he said he was told the UFO's he saw were 'found in an archaeological dig' now that opens up a completely different can of worms and actually makes his story more believable. As in these weren't alien aircraft they were human from long long ago ..."
Yes, it was very interesting indeed, and that is another rabbit hole I've been down a couple of times 
I found the stuff about element-215 (think that's what it was called) and those finger scanners absolutely mind blowing! |
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By *eema 1Man
over a year ago
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All humans are made of the same chemical elements that make earth that also exist in the cosmos..its taken billions of years, from a fireball mass to where we are now..existing by the suns rays,water and oxygen..you put all this together you have your answer. Within the vast eternal cosmos there is no doubt aliens exist..in what form, who knows. When you take in there was no beginning and no end to the universe..its endless. Take in how advanced we are since bacterial life was formed.Then imagine life could have formed trillions of years ago and so advanced we could right now being watched by aliens.
The other point is, that life of some form only can exist in a certain way that the elements in space allow..planets that had life but were obliterated by collisons, supernovas, burnt out suns, swallowed by black holes etc for example. So i think a planet with life only exists for a time then dies in whatever way. The whole universe lives and dies..a continuing cycle. |
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"Possiblities of life and intelligent life are so far apart from each other. But considering that life on earth may well have come from comets hitting into the earth, then why not elsewhere in the vastness of the universe. That documentary on Netflix with Bob Lazar isn't a bad watch. Not sure I buy into it all though.
What i found interesting about Bob Lazaar is that he said he was told the UFO's he saw were 'found in an archaeological dig' now that opens up a completely different can of worms and actually makes his story more believable. As in these weren't alien aircraft they were human from long long ago ...
Yes, it was very interesting indeed, and that is another rabbit hole I've been down a couple of times
I found the stuff about element-215 (think that's what it was called) and those finger scanners absolutely mind blowing! "
Well think about it what is more likely? They found Alien craft which we have no evidence exist or it turns out that tens of thousands of years ago there was a highly advanced civilisation that built them and got wiped out.
It would explain things like the Baghdad Battery or the Antikythera mechanism. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Good morning cindi
Im not too sure about aliens visiting earth, cia cover ups or other theory's that have no proof on the matter but just from a mathematical point of view, alien life is inevitable.
The drake equation explains this very eloquently. I'd suggest you watch prof. Brian cox, carl segan and neil deGrasse tyson's take on youtube. Very very informative.
As for the visiting us issue, as explained above by other users, the space is too great between us and any potential space travelling aliens. Now, we may never know their technology and advancement but the maths suggests that either, we will never meet another intelligent life form because of the difficulties in travelling great distances in short enough amount of time (same problem for the aliens) or even when we do have this technology available (assuming that so will the aliens) either they will visit us but see us and compare us as to what we compare ants to humans or vise versa, we will compare them to insignificant beings as we will be well well ahead.
The chances of us meeting intelligent life forms, on the same level of technological and cultural advancement is too small to say the least. Humans have a higher chance of extinction waaay waay before any of this is even remotely possible "
Greetings Squirting Jedi Master
How many coffees have you had this morning
I have heard of the names you mentioned (by Sheldon, in The Big Bang Theory, I  him) but I didn't know what fields they worked in.
When the library opens again after lockdown I will look them up.
Thank you
May the force be with you |
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"Possiblities of life and intelligent life are so far apart from each other. But considering that life on earth may well have come from comets hitting into the earth, then why not elsewhere in the vastness of the universe. That documentary on Netflix with Bob Lazar isn't a bad watch. Not sure I buy into it all though.
What i found interesting about Bob Lazaar is that he said he was told the UFO's he saw were 'found in an archaeological dig' now that opens up a completely different can of worms and actually makes his story more believable. As in these weren't alien aircraft they were human from long long ago ...
Yes, it was very interesting indeed, and that is another rabbit hole I've been down a couple of times
I found the stuff about element-215 (think that's what it was called) and those finger scanners absolutely mind blowing!
Well think about it what is more likely? They found Alien craft which we have no evidence exist or it turns out that tens of thousands of years ago there was a highly advanced civilisation that built them and got wiped out.
It would explain things like the Baghdad Battery or the Antikythera mechanism. "
I have read several books on "ancient" civilisations, Atlantic and pre Atalntis, some of it is very fascinating indeed. Unfortunately these "theories" regarding technologies that may have been lost are all but dismissed, but it's worth giving a little thought to the ideas. |
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"Possiblities of life and intelligent life are so far apart from each other. But considering that life on earth may well have come from comets hitting into the earth, then why not elsewhere in the vastness of the universe. That documentary on Netflix with Bob Lazar isn't a bad watch. Not sure I buy into it all though.
What i found interesting about Bob Lazaar is that he said he was told the UFO's he saw were 'found in an archaeological dig' now that opens up a completely different can of worms and actually makes his story more believable. As in these weren't alien aircraft they were human from long long ago ...
Yes, it was very interesting indeed, and that is another rabbit hole I've been down a couple of times
I found the stuff about element-215 (think that's what it was called) and those finger scanners absolutely mind blowing!
Well think about it what is more likely? They found Alien craft which we have no evidence exist or it turns out that tens of thousands of years ago there was a highly advanced civilisation that built them and got wiped out.
It would explain things like the Baghdad Battery or the Antikythera mechanism.
I have read several books on "ancient" civilisations, Atlantic and pre Atalntis, some of it is very fascinating indeed. Unfortunately these "theories" regarding technologies that may have been lost are all but dismissed, but it's worth giving a little thought to the ideas. "
They are but only by archaeologists. And that isn't a science! It's largely hearsay with those wanting to do research having to buy in to the same dogma to get funding. Graham Hancock has made some very interesting findings ie: it seems that civilisation in the Americas is much much older than the mainstream think. |
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"Possiblities of life and intelligent life are so far apart from each other. But considering that life on earth may well have come from comets hitting into the earth, then why not elsewhere in the vastness of the universe. That documentary on Netflix with Bob Lazar isn't a bad watch. Not sure I buy into it all though.
What i found interesting about Bob Lazaar is that he said he was told the UFO's he saw were 'found in an archaeological dig' now that opens up a completely different can of worms and actually makes his story more believable. As in these weren't alien aircraft they were human from long long ago ...
Yes, it was very interesting indeed, and that is another rabbit hole I've been down a couple of times
I found the stuff about element-215 (think that's what it was called) and those finger scanners absolutely mind blowing!
Well think about it what is more likely? They found Alien craft which we have no evidence exist or it turns out that tens of thousands of years ago there was a highly advanced civilisation that built them and got wiped out.
It would explain things like the Baghdad Battery or the Antikythera mechanism.
I have read several books on "ancient" civilisations, Atlantic and pre Atalntis, some of it is very fascinating indeed. Unfortunately these "theories" regarding technologies that may have been lost are all but dismissed, but it's worth giving a little thought to the ideas.
They are but only by archaeologists. And that isn't a science! It's largely hearsay with those wanting to do research having to buy in to the same dogma to get funding. Graham Hancock has made some very interesting findings ie: it seems that civilisation in the Americas is much much older than the mainstream think. "
Haha!! That was the exact fellow I was thinking of!! Him and Randall Carson. I've read two of Hancocks. He's got a new one out about the America's which is on my Christmas list ha! |
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"“Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not,” according to Arthur C. Clarke, the author of 2001: A Space Odyssey. “Both are equally terrifying.”
Clarke did write a good essay on why, if there is life elsewhere in the Universe, we haven’t seen it, sadly I can’t find the reference but it’s basically a probability analysis that shows how unlikely we are to bump into anyone else from another planet.
As for Roswell, the CIA, Area 51 etc.... nah. Not buying it. No credible evidence, the “witnesses” that Discovery Channel dig up have long been discredited."
I agree with these points, that's my line of thinking also.
It's a fascinating subject, I'm enjoying reading all the comments.
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Aliens are out there somewhere and I believe entire civilisations have come and gone many times and I also believe if we survive long enough we will colonise the galaxy |
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"Aliens are out there somewhere and I believe entire civilisations have come and gone many times and I also believe if we survive long enough we will colonise the galaxy "
We will destroy ourselves that’s already inevitable |
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
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Certainly not in area 51 but without doubt we are not alone although I certainly don't believe they've visited earth even if they are that advanced. |
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"Aliens are out there somewhere and I believe entire civilisations have come and gone many times and I also believe if we survive long enough we will colonise the galaxy
We will destroy ourselves that’s already inevitable "
Do you think it will be us that cause it? Or an external catastrophe out of our control? |
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"Aliens are out there somewhere and I believe entire civilisations have come and gone many times and I also believe if we survive long enough we will colonise the galaxy
We will destroy ourselves that’s already inevitable
Do you think it will be us that cause it? Or an external catastrophe out of our control? "
Apparently an asteroid missed earth by 250 miles this week |
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
Certainly not in area 51 but without doubt we are not alone although I certainly don't believe they've visited earth even if they are that advanced."
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
Certainly not in area 51 but without doubt we are not alone although I certainly don't believe they've visited earth even if they are that advanced.
Have you seen dome of the profile pics on here!! They're here!!!
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"Aliens are out there somewhere and I believe entire civilisations have come and gone many times and I also believe if we survive long enough we will colonise the galaxy
We will destroy ourselves that’s already inevitable
Do you think it will be us that cause it? Or an external catastrophe out of our control?
Apparently an asteroid missed earth by 250 miles this week"
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Yes, surely somewhere there has to be. The shear size of the universe alone suggests there will be other life, what kind of life that is, is anyone's guess. The mind boggling distances between stars and galaxys prevents us ever finding out with our current technology.
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We could well self distruct..by chemical or viral disease.. obliterate life with nuclear warfare..but even if we're not obliterated by an asteroid, life will be exstict in 4 billion years when the sun will fill your home windows and all life is incinerated..the sun collapses and burns out to a white dwarf..here endeth this miniscule story in terms of time. |
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"Aliens are out there somewhere and I believe entire civilisations have come and gone many times and I also believe if we survive long enough we will colonise the galaxy
We will destroy ourselves that’s already inevitable
Do you think it will be us that cause it? Or an external catastrophe out of our control?
Apparently an asteroid missed earth by 250 miles this week
Yes, one of several relatively close objects of late. "
If millions die from an asteroid strike , I think they will put it down as covid-19 |
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
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There are plenty of aliens on here. So, yes. |
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"Go to be.
The investment in space command by trump and now Boris makes me think they know something we don't too. "
I suspect that’s more to do with posturing and securing access to extraterrestrial mineral deposits which are worth many multiples of the current global economy. |
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"Aliens are out there somewhere and I believe entire civilisations have come and gone many times and I also believe if we survive long enough we will colonise the galaxy
We will destroy ourselves that’s already inevitable
Do you think it will be us that cause it? Or an external catastrophe out of our control?
Apparently an asteroid missed earth by 250 miles this week
Yes, one of several relatively close objects of late.
If millions die from an asteroid strike , I think they will put it down as covid-19 "
with a train of thought like that, you should get yourself put up for MP |
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This is an interesting question. I believe there is life elsewhere. There's just too vast a universe for there not to be. But I don't believe we've been 'visited', for the exact same reason I mentioned above... The universe is too big and vast! |
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"Go to be.
The investment in space command by trump and now Boris makes me think they know something we don't too.
I suspect that’s more to do with posturing and securing access to extraterrestrial mineral deposits which are worth many multiples of the current global economy."
Space wars
Russia has already used a satellite to test firing a weapon in space.
Imagine being able to target satellites and take them out.
Military, communications, defence etc
It's how the next world war will start |
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My opinion is that the universe is so vast that the chances that Earth is the only place in the universe with intelligent life is infinitesimally small... but this is countered by the point that because the universe is so huge, the chances of us ever meeting that intelligent life are also ridiculously small
Short version.. Universe is too big for there not to be aliens, but also too big for us to make contact |
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"This is an interesting question. I believe there is life elsewhere. There's just too vast a universe for there not to be. But I don't believe we've been 'visited', for the exact same reason I mentioned above... The universe is too big and vast!"
Damn, you said it before me... and much more eloquently! |
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"My opinion is that the universe is so vast that the chances that Earth is the only place in the universe with intelligent life is infinitesimally small... but this is countered by the point that because the universe is so huge, the chances of us ever meeting that intelligent life are also ridiculously small
Short version.. Universe is too big for there not to be aliens, but also too big for us to make contact "
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"Go to be.
The investment in space command by trump and now Boris makes me think they know something we don't too.
I suspect that’s more to do with posturing and securing access to extraterrestrial mineral deposits which are worth many multiples of the current global economy.
Space wars
Russia has already used a satellite to test firing a weapon in space.
Imagine being able to target satellites and take them out.
Military, communications, defence etc
It's how the next world war will start "
Combine that with cyber attack technology and the nutter in North Korea we are screwed.
Wow, I have a habit of taking threads off topic, don't think I've ever done it to my own before
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"Go to be.
The investment in space command by trump and now Boris makes me think they know something we don't too.
I suspect that’s more to do with posturing and securing access to extraterrestrial mineral deposits which are worth many multiples of the current global economy.
Space wars
Russia has already used a satellite to test firing a weapon in space.
Imagine being able to target satellites and take them out.
Military, communications, defence etc
It's how the next world war will start
Combine that with cyber attack technology and the nutter in North Korea we are screwed.
Wow, I have a habit of taking threads off topic, don't think I've ever done it to my own before
Would make a good plot for a book also "
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"Possiblities of life and intelligent life are so far apart from each other. But considering that life on earth may well have come from comets hitting into the earth, then why not elsewhere in the vastness of the universe. That documentary on Netflix with Bob Lazar isn't a bad watch. Not sure I buy into it all though.
What i found interesting about Bob Lazaar is that he said he was told the UFO's he saw were 'found in an archaeological dig' now that opens up a completely different can of worms and actually makes his story more believable. As in these weren't alien aircraft they were human from long long ago ...
Yes, it was very interesting indeed, and that is another rabbit hole I've been down a couple of times
I found the stuff about element-215 (think that's what it was called) and those finger scanners absolutely mind blowing!
Well think about it what is more likely? They found Alien craft which we have no evidence exist or it turns out that tens of thousands of years ago there was a highly advanced civilisation that built them and got wiped out.
It would explain things like the Baghdad Battery or the Antikythera mechanism.
I have read several books on "ancient" civilisations, Atlantic and pre Atalntis, some of it is very fascinating indeed. Unfortunately these "theories" regarding technologies that may have been lost are all but dismissed, but it's worth giving a little thought to the ideas.
They are but only by archaeologists. And that isn't a science! It's largely hearsay with those wanting to do research having to buy in to the same dogma to get funding. Graham Hancock has made some very interesting findings ie: it seems that civilisation in the Americas is much much older than the mainstream think. "
It’s all good, but Bob Lazar and Graham Hancock are the frauds I was avoiding mentioning 
Hancock was asked once whether he really believed the pseudoscience in his books. He pointed at his Rolls Royce and said, “well, I believe in the car they’ve brought me” |
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Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu "
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet |
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet"
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours |
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
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Google the great filter, it's fairly short but interesting reading |
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours "
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you |
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you"
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
And not all that bothered about calling people who's opinion does not match yours arrogant either "
It's possible to have an arrogant point of view on something without being an arrogant person...
I wouldn't know if you're an arrogant person, what with you being a total stranger.
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I think it's probable that other planets are compatible with life, including intelligent life.
I think it's less probable that intelligent life exists which is close enough to have made contact with us.
But I don't know. |
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"Aliens are out there somewhere and I believe entire civilisations have come and gone many times and I also believe if we survive long enough we will colonise the galaxy
We will destroy ourselves that’s already inevitable
Do you think it will be us that cause it? Or an external catastrophe out of our control?
Apparently an asteroid missed earth by 250 miles this week
Yes, one of several relatively close objects of late.
If millions die from an asteroid strike , I think they will put it down as covid-19
with a train of thought like that, you should get yourself put up for MP "
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
And not all that bothered about calling people who's opinion does not match yours arrogant either
It's possible to have an arrogant point of view on something without being an arrogant person...
I wouldn't know if you're an arrogant person, what with you being a total stranger.
But honestly, I'm flattered my opinion means so much to you "
I don't want a row with anyone on here, I just don't understand why you think it's arrogant. Have a read of the great filter theory if the subject interests you, it's a different view point and a fairly short read, it basically argues that we may well be the only intelligent life in the entire visible universe and it raises some interesting points |
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
And not all that bothered about calling people who's opinion does not match yours arrogant either
It's possible to have an arrogant point of view on something without being an arrogant person...
I wouldn't know if you're an arrogant person, what with you being a total stranger.
But honestly, I'm flattered my opinion means so much to you
I don't want a row with anyone on here, I just don't understand why you think it's arrogant. Have a read of the great filter theory if the subject interests you, it's a different view point and a fairly short read, it basically argues that we may well be the only intelligent life in the entire visible universe and it raises some interesting points"
You seem very keen to start a row for someone who doesn't want one.
You don't need to convert me. We don't need to agree.
We're both entitled to our opinions and it's fine that they're different.
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I think what Lu meant is that, given the size of the universe, the idea that we're the only intelligent life is unlikely. To insist on it anyway is to claim there's something unique and special about us over all other possible iterations of intelligent life.
"We are unique across all space and time, nothing exists like us" might be perceived as arrogant.
I'm not reading her saying that anyone is individually arrogant. |
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
And not all that bothered about calling people who's opinion does not match yours arrogant either
It's possible to have an arrogant point of view on something without being an arrogant person...
I wouldn't know if you're an arrogant person, what with you being a total stranger.
But honestly, I'm flattered my opinion means so much to you
I don't want a row with anyone on here, I just don't understand why you think it's arrogant. Have a read of the great filter theory if the subject interests you, it's a different view point and a fairly short read, it basically argues that we may well be the only intelligent life in the entire visible universe and it raises some interesting points
You seem very keen to start a row for someone who doesn't want one.
You don't need to convert me. We don't need to agree.
We're both entitled to our opinions and it's fine that they're different.
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I'm not keen to start a row, but then I'm not the one who thinks anyone who doesn't share my opinion must be pretty arrogant which is in your second paragraph if you recall |
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
And not all that bothered about calling people who's opinion does not match yours arrogant either
It's possible to have an arrogant point of view on something without being an arrogant person...
I wouldn't know if you're an arrogant person, what with you being a total stranger.
But honestly, I'm flattered my opinion means so much to you
I don't want a row with anyone on here, I just don't understand why you think it's arrogant. Have a read of the great filter theory if the subject interests you, it's a different view point and a fairly short read, it basically argues that we may well be the only intelligent life in the entire visible universe and it raises some interesting points
You seem very keen to start a row for someone who doesn't want one.
You don't need to convert me. We don't need to agree.
We're both entitled to our opinions and it's fine that they're different.
I'm not keen to start a row, but then I'm not the one who thinks anyone who doesn't share my opinion must be pretty arrogant which is in your second paragraph if you recall"
You're reading her statement antagonistically when there's no need |
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"I think what Lu meant is that, given the size of the universe, the idea that we're the only intelligent life is unlikely. To insist on it anyway is to claim there's something unique and special about us over all other possible iterations of intelligent life.
"We are unique across all space and time, nothing exists like us" might be perceived as arrogant.
I'm not reading her saying that anyone is individually arrogant."
Thanks swing...glad to know I'm not speaking Swahili |
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"I think what Lu meant is that, given the size of the universe, the idea that we're the only intelligent life is unlikely. To insist on it anyway is to claim there's something unique and special about us over all other possible iterations of intelligent life.
"We are unique across all space and time, nothing exists like us" might be perceived as arrogant.
I'm not reading her saying that anyone is individually arrogant.
Thanks swing...glad to know I'm not speaking Swahili "
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
And not all that bothered about calling people who's opinion does not match yours arrogant either
It's possible to have an arrogant point of view on something without being an arrogant person...
I wouldn't know if you're an arrogant person, what with you being a total stranger.
But honestly, I'm flattered my opinion means so much to you
I don't want a row with anyone on here, I just don't understand why you think it's arrogant. Have a read of the great filter theory if the subject interests you, it's a different view point and a fairly short read, it basically argues that we may well be the only intelligent life in the entire visible universe and it raises some interesting points
You seem very keen to start a row for someone who doesn't want one.
You don't need to convert me. We don't need to agree.
We're both entitled to our opinions and it's fine that they're different.
I'm not keen to start a row, but then I'm not the one who thinks anyone who doesn't share my opinion must be pretty arrogant which is in your second paragraph if you recall"
Jeez man...
Are you really THAT bothered?
I think the point of view is arrogant. It's an opinion.
None of us KNOW what's out there. We're all sharing OPINIONS not fact.
I would suggest that if the opinions of strangers online are too much for you to handle, maybe don't enter into a debate on a public forum?
It's really not that important that I find ONE opinion you have somewhat arrogant. I wouldn't loose any sleep over it... |
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
And not all that bothered about calling people who's opinion does not match yours arrogant either
It's possible to have an arrogant point of view on something without being an arrogant person...
I wouldn't know if you're an arrogant person, what with you being a total stranger.
But honestly, I'm flattered my opinion means so much to you
I don't want a row with anyone on here, I just don't understand why you think it's arrogant. Have a read of the great filter theory if the subject interests you, it's a different view point and a fairly short read, it basically argues that we may well be the only intelligent life in the entire visible universe and it raises some interesting points
You seem very keen to start a row for someone who doesn't want one.
You don't need to convert me. We don't need to agree.
We're both entitled to our opinions and it's fine that they're different.
I'm not keen to start a row, but then I'm not the one who thinks anyone who doesn't share my opinion must be pretty arrogant which is in your second paragraph if you recall
You're reading her statement antagonistically when there's no need"
No I don’t think he is I think he has offered an opinion and suggested a read on his opinion that’s all.... why fall out no need |
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
And not all that bothered about calling people who's opinion does not match yours arrogant either
It's possible to have an arrogant point of view on something without being an arrogant person...
I wouldn't know if you're an arrogant person, what with you being a total stranger.
But honestly, I'm flattered my opinion means so much to you
I don't want a row with anyone on here, I just don't understand why you think it's arrogant. Have a read of the great filter theory if the subject interests you, it's a different view point and a fairly short read, it basically argues that we may well be the only intelligent life in the entire visible universe and it raises some interesting points
You seem very keen to start a row for someone who doesn't want one.
You don't need to convert me. We don't need to agree.
We're both entitled to our opinions and it's fine that they're different.
I'm not keen to start a row, but then I'm not the one who thinks anyone who doesn't share my opinion must be pretty arrogant which is in your second paragraph if you recall
You're reading her statement antagonistically when there's no need
No I don’t think he is I think he has offered an opinion and suggested a read on his opinion that’s all.... why fall out no need "
Totally agree that there's no need...not too sure why it can't just be accepted that our opinions differ *shrugs* |
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"I think what Lu meant is that, given the size of the universe, the idea that we're the only intelligent life is unlikely. To insist on it anyway is to claim there's something unique and special about us over all other possible iterations of intelligent life.
"We are unique across all space and time, nothing exists like us" might be perceived as arrogant.
I'm not reading her saying that anyone is individually arrogant."
Everyone is individually unique....
Just like everyone else |
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"I think what Lu meant is that, given the size of the universe, the idea that we're the only intelligent life is unlikely. To insist on it anyway is to claim there's something unique and special about us over all other possible iterations of intelligent life.
"We are unique across all space and time, nothing exists like us" might be perceived as arrogant.
I'm not reading her saying that anyone is individually arrogant.
Thanks swing...glad to know I'm not speaking Swahili
Definitely not. "
Like I said not here for a row and I understand the viewpoint that the universe is so large people can't concieve there isn't other life much less intelligent life. But there are people that don't share that view and serious philosophical papers published on the subject.
Sorry if I took it overly personally but it's just been said before when I an alternative opinion |
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"I think what Lu meant is that, given the size of the universe, the idea that we're the only intelligent life is unlikely. To insist on it anyway is to claim there's something unique and special about us over all other possible iterations of intelligent life.
"We are unique across all space and time, nothing exists like us" might be perceived as arrogant.
I'm not reading her saying that anyone is individually arrogant.
Everyone is individually unique....
Just like everyone else"
Yup.
Humans are pretty special.
I'm sure other beings exist, because of the huge possibility in an infinite universe, which are similarly or even more special. |
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"I think what Lu meant is that, given the size of the universe, the idea that we're the only intelligent life is unlikely. To insist on it anyway is to claim there's something unique and special about us over all other possible iterations of intelligent life.
"We are unique across all space and time, nothing exists like us" might be perceived as arrogant.
I'm not reading her saying that anyone is individually arrogant.
Everyone is individually unique....
Just like everyone else
Yup.
Humans are pretty special.
I'm sure other beings exist, because of the huge possibility in an infinite universe, which are similarly or even more special."
Sorry for being a pedant but the universe is expanding so cannot be infinite, very big for sure but not infinite |
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over a year ago
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"I think what Lu meant is that, given the size of the universe, the idea that we're the only intelligent life is unlikely. To insist on it anyway is to claim there's something unique and special about us over all other possible iterations of intelligent life.
"We are unique across all space and time, nothing exists like us" might be perceived as arrogant.
I'm not reading her saying that anyone is individually arrogant.
Everyone is individually unique....
Just like everyone else
Yup.
Humans are pretty special.
I'm sure other beings exist, because of the huge possibility in an infinite universe, which are similarly or even more special."
Its definitely probable....
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
And not all that bothered about calling people who's opinion does not match yours arrogant either
It's possible to have an arrogant point of view on something without being an arrogant person...
I wouldn't know if you're an arrogant person, what with you being a total stranger.
But honestly, I'm flattered my opinion means so much to you
I don't want a row with anyone on here, I just don't understand why you think it's arrogant. Have a read of the great filter theory if the subject interests you, it's a different view point and a fairly short read, it basically argues that we may well be the only intelligent life in the entire visible universe and it raises some interesting points
You seem very keen to start a row for someone who doesn't want one.
You don't need to convert me. We don't need to agree.
We're both entitled to our opinions and it's fine that they're different.
I'm not keen to start a row, but then I'm not the one who thinks anyone who doesn't share my opinion must be pretty arrogant which is in your second paragraph if you recall
You're reading her statement antagonistically when there's no need
No I don’t think he is I think he has offered an opinion and suggested a read on his opinion that’s all.... why fall out no need
Totally agree that there's no need...not too sure why it can't just be accepted that our opinions differ *shrugs*"
Exactly but he ain’t forcing anything on you he just offered an opportunity for you to see the other side of things and that’s not being arrogant It’s very interesting and thought provoking |
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
And not all that bothered about calling people who's opinion does not match yours arrogant either
It's possible to have an arrogant point of view on something without being an arrogant person...
I wouldn't know if you're an arrogant person, what with you being a total stranger.
But honestly, I'm flattered my opinion means so much to you
I don't want a row with anyone on here, I just don't understand why you think it's arrogant. Have a read of the great filter theory if the subject interests you, it's a different view point and a fairly short read, it basically argues that we may well be the only intelligent life in the entire visible universe and it raises some interesting points
You seem very keen to start a row for someone who doesn't want one.
You don't need to convert me. We don't need to agree.
We're both entitled to our opinions and it's fine that they're different.
I'm not keen to start a row, but then I'm not the one who thinks anyone who doesn't share my opinion must be pretty arrogant which is in your second paragraph if you recall
You're reading her statement antagonistically when there's no need
No I don’t think he is I think he has offered an opinion and suggested a read on his opinion that’s all.... why fall out no need
Totally agree that there's no need...not too sure why it can't just be accepted that our opinions differ *shrugs*
Exactly but he ain’t forcing anything on you he just offered an opportunity for you to see the other side of things and that’s not being arrogant It’s very interesting and thought provoking "
Nowhere have I declared anyone arrogant. My initial post wasn't actually referring to anyone specific, nor did I suggest he was arrogant for offering up some research.
I tried to agree to disagree...
It seems that has now happened. So we're all good
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"I think what Lu meant is that, given the size of the universe, the idea that we're the only intelligent life is unlikely. To insist on it anyway is to claim there's something unique and special about us over all other possible iterations of intelligent life.
"We are unique across all space and time, nothing exists like us" might be perceived as arrogant.
I'm not reading her saying that anyone is individually arrogant.
Everyone is individually unique....
Just like everyone else
Yup.
Humans are pretty special.
I'm sure other beings exist, because of the huge possibility in an infinite universe, which are similarly or even more special.
Sorry for being a pedant but the universe is expanding so cannot be infinite, very big for sure but not infinite"
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
And not all that bothered about calling people who's opinion does not match yours arrogant either
It's possible to have an arrogant point of view on something without being an arrogant person...
I wouldn't know if you're an arrogant person, what with you being a total stranger.
But honestly, I'm flattered my opinion means so much to you
I don't want a row with anyone on here, I just don't understand why you think it's arrogant. Have a read of the great filter theory if the subject interests you, it's a different view point and a fairly short read, it basically argues that we may well be the only intelligent life in the entire visible universe and it raises some interesting points
You seem very keen to start a row for someone who doesn't want one.
You don't need to convert me. We don't need to agree.
We're both entitled to our opinions and it's fine that they're different.
I'm not keen to start a row, but then I'm not the one who thinks anyone who doesn't share my opinion must be pretty arrogant which is in your second paragraph if you recall
You're reading her statement antagonistically when there's no need
No I don’t think he is I think he has offered an opinion and suggested a read on his opinion that’s all.... why fall out no need
Totally agree that there's no need...not too sure why it can't just be accepted that our opinions differ *shrugs*
Exactly but he ain’t forcing anything on you he just offered an opportunity for you to see the other side of things and that’s not being arrogant It’s very interesting and thought provoking
Nowhere have I declared anyone arrogant. My initial post wasn't actually referring to anyone specific, nor did I suggest he was arrogant for offering up some research.
I tried to agree to disagree...
It seems that has now happened. So we're all good
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
And not all that bothered about calling people who's opinion does not match yours arrogant either
It's possible to have an arrogant point of view on something without being an arrogant person...
I wouldn't know if you're an arrogant person, what with you being a total stranger.
But honestly, I'm flattered my opinion means so much to you
I don't want a row with anyone on here, I just don't understand why you think it's arrogant. Have a read of the great filter theory if the subject interests you, it's a different view point and a fairly short read, it basically argues that we may well be the only intelligent life in the entire visible universe and it raises some interesting points
You seem very keen to start a row for someone who doesn't want one.
You don't need to convert me. We don't need to agree.
We're both entitled to our opinions and it's fine that they're different.
I'm not keen to start a row, but then I'm not the one who thinks anyone who doesn't share my opinion must be pretty arrogant which is in your second paragraph if you recall
You're reading her statement antagonistically when there's no need
No I don’t think he is I think he has offered an opinion and suggested a read on his opinion that’s all.... why fall out no need
Totally agree that there's no need...not too sure why it can't just be accepted that our opinions differ *shrugs*
Exactly but he ain’t forcing anything on you he just offered an opportunity for you to see the other side of things and that’s not being arrogant It’s very interesting and thought provoking
Nowhere have I declared anyone arrogant. My initial post wasn't actually referring to anyone specific, nor did I suggest he was arrogant for offering up some research.
I tried to agree to disagree...
It seems that has now happened. So we're all good
Yep all good "
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"Dunno about "aliens"...
But other life out there? Definitely, we'd have to be pretty arrogant to think that in all the vastness that's beyond us, we're the only life.
Lu
It's not arrogant at all, why would anyone think it is.
No one knows how life began or how rare the circumstances might be. They can't make it in a lab yet
That's my opinion...it's ok that it differs from yours
Of course it's ok that we have different opinions, you however seem to think I'm arrogant for having mine. The arrogance I think is with you
Luckily for me...I'm not all that bothered what a total stranger on the internet thinks of me
And not all that bothered about calling people who's opinion does not match yours arrogant either
It's possible to have an arrogant point of view on something without being an arrogant person...
I wouldn't know if you're an arrogant person, what with you being a total stranger.
But honestly, I'm flattered my opinion means so much to you
I don't want a row with anyone on here, I just don't understand why you think it's arrogant. Have a read of the great filter theory if the subject interests you, it's a different view point and a fairly short read, it basically argues that we may well be the only intelligent life in the entire visible universe and it raises some interesting points
You seem very keen to start a row for someone who doesn't want one.
You don't need to convert me. We don't need to agree.
We're both entitled to our opinions and it's fine that they're different.
I'm not keen to start a row, but then I'm not the one who thinks anyone who doesn't share my opinion must be pretty arrogant which is in your second paragraph if you recall
You're reading her statement antagonistically when there's no need
No I don’t think he is I think he has offered an opinion and suggested a read on his opinion that’s all.... why fall out no need
Totally agree that there's no need...not too sure why it can't just be accepted that our opinions differ *shrugs*
Exactly but he ain’t forcing anything on you he just offered an opportunity for you to see the other side of things and that’s not being arrogant It’s very interesting and thought provoking
Nowhere have I declared anyone arrogant. My initial post wasn't actually referring to anyone specific, nor did I suggest he was arrogant for offering up some research.
I tried to agree to disagree...
It seems that has now happened. So we're all good
Yep all good
still recommend a read of the great filter though, definitely modified my opinion, sadly I can't put a link up as it's a pdf"
Event horizon a YouTube channel plenty of interesting contradictions on there |
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
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Almost certainly yes.
There are trillions of planets orbiting billions of stars in millions of galaxy's out there. We cannot be the only one.
However, that they visit our little lump of rock in flying saucers is much less likely (although not impossible) |
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There aren't any aliens that we have made contact with.
I find it incredibly difficult to believe , given that there are so many solar systems in so many galaxies and so many universes in the multiverse, that life in some form does not exist in some far reach .......
If they are on their way, I hope they get here before I kick the proverbial |
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"Aliens are out there somewhere and I believe entire civilisations have come and gone many times and I also believe if we survive long enough we will colonise the galaxy
We will destroy ourselves that’s already inevitable
Do you think it will be us that cause it? Or an external catastrophe out of our control?
Apparently an asteroid missed earth by 250 miles this week
Yes, one of several relatively close objects of late.
If millions die from an asteroid strike , I think they will put it down as covid-19
with a train of thought like that, you should get yourself put up for MP
Dash for PM"
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I think aliens are responsible for covid-19, they came down probed a couple of guys asses, unbeknownst to them infected them with an alien virus up their ass,this is covid |
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"There aren't any aliens that we have made contact with.
I find it incredibly difficult to believe , given that there are so many solar systems in so many galaxies and so many universes in the multiverse, that life in some form does not exist in some far reach .......
If they are on their way, I hope they get here before I kick the proverbial"
I get that argument I really do but there is something else to consider, no one knows how spontaneous life occurred, after that nearly 2 billion years for single cell life to become multiple cell life and no one knows how that happened. On top of that half a billion years for so called intelligent life to evolve.
That adds up to about a third of the life of the universe, so maybe not all that inevitable that's just an alternative point of view, not saying it's right no one is likely to ever know |
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From a purely statistical, logical and ultimately mathematical approach, it is impossible that all the life in the Universe is on one planet in one system, in one galaxy.
How big is the Universe?
What the earth is a part is called the Solar system, each system is an assortment of planets and moons that orbit a star. There are tens of billions of these systems in our Galaxy known as the Milky Way.
Then there are observable over 200 billion galaxies in the Universe.
We are but a very small insignificant spec in our galaxy, much less the entire Universe. Hence my opening premise is that it is mathematically and statistically impossible for there to be life on only our planet.
How more or less intelligent the life is on other planets/moons in our system, galaxy and ultimately universe, that's the real question. Might we find then? Maybe, maybe not. But they are out there, I can guarantee you that.
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Of course we can’t be the only planet where life started
So I’m sure there a quite a few other planets that have life on them
Wether they are more advanced and can travel the long distances between worlds is another subject |
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"From a purely statistical, logical and ultimately mathematical approach, it is impossible that all the life in the Universe is on one planet in one system, in one galaxy.
How big is the Universe?
What the earth is a part is called the Solar system, each system is an assortment of planets and moons that orbit a star. There are tens of billions of these systems in our Galaxy known as the Milky Way.
Then there are observable over 200 billion galaxies in the Universe.
We are but a very small insignificant spec in our galaxy, much less the entire Universe. Hence my opening premise is that it is mathematically and statistically impossible for there to be life on only our planet.
How more or less intelligent the life is on other planets/moons in our system, galaxy and ultimately universe, that's the real question. Might we find then? Maybe, maybe not. But they are out there, I can guarantee you that.
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Space is far to big for there not to be life out there, thing is due to the distances involved its highly unlikely they know we are here at all.
Its now common knowledge that the sightings in Nevada and in particular ares 51 were just rumours spread by the US government to hide the experimental spy plane testings of the U2,OXCART,SR71 Blackbird and Aroura projects, when airline pilots were reporting sightings of ufo's flying at incredible speeds at 70,000ft plus it was them.
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
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100% yes.
The universe is billions of years old.
There's literally trillions of star's those star's will have trillions upon trillions of planets.
So it's inconceivable that we are the only lifeform in the entire infinite universe.
They maybe just out of our ability to see them currently.
Which means even if we did discover them it would be a very very long time before we could travel to them.
Looking at it from a religious standpoint.
If God did exist and created our solar system with its planets and sun why on earth wouldn't he create other galaxies with life?
So I think basically from a scientific and religious standpoint both are covered.
The Idea of no other life in the entire infinite universe is impossible, be it little green men, gelatinous space blobs, flying brains, microscopic life, face hugging xenomorph with acid for blood or a small dude with a light up finger who wants to "phone home" yes life is out there aliens definitely exist. |
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"From a purely statistical, logical and ultimately mathematical approach, it is impossible that all the life in the Universe is on one planet in one system, in one galaxy.
How big is the Universe?
What the earth is a part is called the Solar system, each system is an assortment of planets and moons that orbit a star. There are tens of billions of these systems in our Galaxy known as the Milky Way.
Then there are observable over 200 billion galaxies in the Universe.
We are but a very small insignificant spec in our galaxy, much less the entire Universe. Hence my opening premise is that it is mathematically and statistically impossible for there to be life on only our planet.
How more or less intelligent the life is on other planets/moons in our system, galaxy and ultimately universe, that's the real question. Might we find then? Maybe, maybe not. But they are out there, I can guarantee you that.
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You have a set of scales and on one side you have loaded 200 billion galaxies, you quote statistics but you have no idea how to load the other side of the scales. If the universe is ten times that size but the chance of spontaneous life is 200 times greater your statistics are meaningless. You just can't ignore the unknown odds of how life arose just because it's unknown. Hence from a purely statistical point of view everything is unknown. |
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"From a purely statistical, logical and ultimately mathematical approach, it is impossible that all the life in the Universe is on one planet in one system, in one galaxy.
How big is the Universe?
What the earth is a part is called the Solar system, each system is an assortment of planets and moons that orbit a star. There are tens of billions of these systems in our Galaxy known as the Milky Way.
Then there are observable over 200 billion galaxies in the Universe.
We are but a very small insignificant spec in our galaxy, much less the entire Universe. Hence my opening premise is that it is mathematically and statistically impossible for there to be life on only our planet.
How more or less intelligent the life is on other planets/moons in our system, galaxy and ultimately universe, that's the real question. Might we find then? Maybe, maybe not. But they are out there, I can guarantee you that.
You have a set of scales and on one side you have loaded 200 billion galaxies, you quote statistics but you have no idea how to load the other side of the scales. If the universe is ten times that size but the chance of spontaneous life is 200 times greater your statistics are meaningless. You just can't ignore the unknown odds of how life arose just because it's unknown. Hence from a purely statistical point of view everything is unknown."
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"Just wondering what the general consensus was?
This is something that has always fascinated me.
I've done a lot of reading into Area51 and secret CIA stuff from the 50s + 60s about the UFO craze, the Rosswell Incident, Operation Paperclip (declassified under the freedom of information act about secret goings on at Area51)
Are there aliens out there?
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Yes in my opinion they've been here a long time. I think there's a few different races maybe some are time travellers or inter dimensional beings. |
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over a year ago
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Are there aliens out there?
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Forgive me guys but I could not help myself, being on this site for quite some time I am absolutely convinced there are quite a few aliens on here.
On a serious note - Netflix has some interesting documentaries on offer relating to aliens and co. |
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Tis the other half of Turkish here.
For me, even with or without the alleged statistics to back up the arguments on both sides.
It's little like religion. What you choose to believe. Like most people I imagine. I've read many books and watched many documentaries. I believe there is life, I cant conceive there isn't. Whether it be more advanced than ourselves or way behind. I doubt they will be anything like us, or even resemble us.
Frankly I'd like to think if there is, they aren't half as cunty as the human race is to one another, or so hell bent on destroying their own planet.
Just my humble opinion, that's all.
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"Tis the other half of Turkish here.
For me, even with or without the alleged statistics to back up the arguments on both sides.
It's little like religion. What you choose to believe. Like most people I imagine. I've read many books and watched many documentaries. I believe there is life, I cant conceive there isn't. Whether it be more advanced than ourselves or way behind. I doubt they will be anything like us, or even resemble us.
Frankly I'd like to think if there is, they aren't half as cunty as the human race is to one another, or so hell bent on destroying their own planet.
Just my humble opinion, that's all.
J "
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If you know how big the universe is & yet still believe we are the only or even “chosen” ones then your arrogance is astounding imo.
Are there aliens? Yes
Have they visited travelling through space? Not in my opinion, more likely through time imo & but then they may not be aliens at all?
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"If you know how big the universe is & yet still believe we are the only or even “chosen” ones then your arrogance is astounding imo.
Are there aliens? Yes
Have they visited travelling through space? Not in my opinion, more likely through time imo & but then they may not be aliens at all?
S"
Are you saying it could be us? |
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"If you know how big the universe is & yet still believe we are the only or even “chosen” ones then your arrogance is astounding imo.
Are there aliens? Yes
Have they visited travelling through space? Not in my opinion, more likely through time imo & but then they may not be aliens at all?
S
Are you saying it could be us?"
There could be aliens on other planets having this very discussion.
We could be the aliens to them....... |
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"If you know how big the universe is & yet still believe we are the only or even “chosen” ones then your arrogance is astounding imo.
Are there aliens? Yes
Have they visited travelling through space? Not in my opinion, more likely through time imo & but then they may not be aliens at all?
S
Are you saying it could be us?"
Could be I think there’s more chance of that than there is of it being aliens travelling through space.
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"If you know how big the universe is & yet still believe we are the only or even “chosen” ones then your arrogance is astounding imo.
Are there aliens? Yes
Have they visited travelling through space? Not in my opinion, more likely through time imo & but then they may not be aliens at all?
S
Are you saying it could be us?
Could be I think there’s more chance of that than there is of it being aliens travelling through space.
S"
It’s a theory I’ve put up several times when this type of thread comes up .... we could well be the starting point for life in the universe and we may colonise all over the galaxy and thus creating sub species of ourselves just like we have here on earth and I think over time they will not resemble us at all..... aliens |
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"If you know how big the universe is & yet still believe we are the only or even “chosen” ones then your arrogance is astounding imo.
Are there aliens? Yes
Have they visited travelling through space? Not in my opinion, more likely through time imo & but then they may not be aliens at all?
S
Are you saying it could be us?
Could be I think there’s more chance of that than there is of it being aliens travelling through space.
S
It’s a theory I’ve put up several times when this type of thread comes up .... we could well be the starting point for life in the universe and we may colonise all over the galaxy and thus creating sub species of ourselves just like we have here on earth and I think over time they will not resemble us at all..... aliens "
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"If you know how big the universe is & yet still believe we are the only or even “chosen” ones then your arrogance is astounding imo.
Are there aliens? Yes
Have they visited travelling through space? Not in my opinion, more likely through time imo & but then they may not be aliens at all?
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Are you saying it could be us?
Could be I think there’s more chance of that than there is of it being aliens travelling through space.
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It’s a theory I’ve put up several times when this type of thread comes up .... we could well be the starting point for life in the universe and we may colonise all over the galaxy and thus creating sub species of ourselves just like we have here on earth and I think over time they will not resemble us at all..... aliens
Don't say lizards"
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
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"If you know how big the universe is & yet still believe we are the only or even “chosen” ones then your arrogance is astounding imo.
Are there aliens? Yes
Have they visited travelling through space? Not in my opinion, more likely through time imo & but then they may not be aliens at all?
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Are you saying it could be us?
Could be I think there’s more chance of that than there is of it being aliens travelling through space.
S
It’s a theory I’ve put up several times when this type of thread comes up .... we could well be the starting point for life in the universe and we may colonise all over the galaxy and thus creating sub species of ourselves just like we have here on earth and I think over time they will not resemble us at all..... aliens "
I just think that while we are figuring out how the hell we are going to get anywhere close to the speed of light needed just to reach out past our own little planetary system they’ll either be a eureka moment or a spin-off discovery will be time travel.
Then it doesn’t stop there, you’d then I’d guess need to anchor your device to the planet because if you went an hour back in time you’d be sitting in empty space where the earth was an hour ago.
I find all these things really interesting & it’s I guess why I have my theory of time & am a fatalist.
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"If you know how big the universe is & yet still believe we are the only or even “chosen” ones then your arrogance is astounding imo.
Are there aliens? Yes
Have they visited travelling through space? Not in my opinion, more likely through time imo & but then they may not be aliens at all?
S
Are you saying it could be us?
Could be I think there’s more chance of that than there is of it being aliens travelling through space.
S
It’s a theory I’ve put up several times when this type of thread comes up .... we could well be the starting point for life in the universe and we may colonise all over the galaxy and thus creating sub species of ourselves just like we have here on earth and I think over time they will not resemble us at all..... aliens
I just think that while we are figuring out how the hell we are going to get anywhere close to the speed of light needed just to reach out past our own little planetary system they’ll either be a eureka moment or a spin-off discovery will be time travel.
Then it doesn’t stop there, you’d then I’d guess need to anchor your device to the planet because if you went an hour back in time you’d be sitting in empty space where the earth was an hour ago.
I find all these things really interesting & it’s I guess why I have my theory of time & am a fatalist.
S"
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I think it rather unlikely that aliens from millions of light years away will visit. They'd probably be even less inclined to keep visiting.
There's life out there, including some intelligent life. If any have the technology to travel such phenomenal 0 distances, we'd probably hold no interest for them.
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