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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Have seen this statement on quite a few profiles recently. Was curious as to why this is such a turn off for people? Is it simply because you prefer your men to be very masculine types and being Bi doesn't fit with that idea for you? I somehow don't imagine seeing any male profiles that say "no Bi women". |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There are a number both conscious and un conscious biases at play with regards to bi men. Some are prejudices and others are preferences.
I have learned to focus on those who like bi guys or those that don’t mind either way, it’s a much better investment of my energy than concerning myself about the whys and wherefore of those who don’t. |
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The most obvious one for me is when I go to the GUM clinic for testing, one of the questions they ask is whether you've had any sexual contact with bi guys.
If you say yes or maybe, then they advise you to get the hep jab.
That will likely put some people off, or give them the subconscious thought about bi guys being higher risk, and if that's coming from the sexual health professionals then it will lodge in your mind. I meet bi guys and it's lodged in mine. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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There are any number of reasons a lot of them down to personal preferences that may or may not be informed.
One valid reason is the fact that you can't give blood for three months after having sex with a bisexual man.
For some the thought of two men having sex, even if not in front of them, is a turn off.
There are of course those who take a more bigoted view too, or one that suggests that just because a man likes having sex with another man he won't be able to keep his hands off *any* man - funny how that one is never thought about bisexual woman!!
What I would say though, as a bisexual man, in my experience of the site the vast majority of people are either not bothered by my sexuality, or actively seek it - it's just that "no bi males" sticks out more when it is stated that it's more noticeable and leads to the perception that the "preference" is more wide spread than it actually is.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Have seen this statement on quite a few profiles recently. Was curious as to why this is such a turn off for people? Is it simply because you prefer your men to be very masculine types and being Bi doesn't fit with that idea for you? I somehow don't imagine seeing any male profiles that say "no Bi women". "
My Mr is bi, as I am and he's also masculine, bi men get bad press because of the opinion that they are promiscuous.
This doesn't mean they are any less a man, and pisses me off that they are singled out. Of course then there is fab straight! Lol, x |
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It really isn't worth getting worried about it. Whether it's a preferences or a prejudice, doesn't matter: if you're bi then you're not what they're looking for. Plenty of other fish in the sea (other clichés are available) |
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Batty boi's is sick and disgusting. They be sticking it everywhere and don't give a shit about their sexual health's. They is hanging around toilets and bummin boi's an giving them aids.
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My hubby is clearly turned on watching me getting a proper seeing to from another guy. What if he suddenly got the urge to touch and liked it? I can't compete with that! Would he turn into one of those 'batty boi's'? No. I can't have that.
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I have kept this secret for over 20 years. I love my wife and enjoy fucking her very much. I don't want her to find out I have been lying all this time. What other little white lies might it uncover?
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I am confused. I have been jerking off watching porn that shows close ups of big hard cocks that are clearly not my own, fucking women in every hole and shooting their pearly white splatter batter everywhere. This doesn't mean I'm gay and I'm not about to find out.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There are any number of reasons a lot of them down to personal preferences that may or may not be informed.
One valid reason is the fact that you can't give blood for three months after having sex with a bisexual man.
For some the thought of two men having sex, even if not in front of them, is a turn off.
There are of course those who take a more bigoted view too, or one that suggests that just because a man likes having sex with another man he won't be able to keep his hands off *any* man - funny how that one is never thought about bisexual woman!!
What I would say though, as a bisexual man, in my experience of the site the vast majority of people are either not bothered by my sexuality, or actively seek it - it's just that "no bi males" sticks out more when it is stated that it's more noticeable and leads to the perception that the "preference" is more wide spread than it actually is.
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To be fair, some people do think that some bisexual women can't keep their hands off anyone. Women in clubs touching people without consent happens. 
I wonder if it's the 'bisexual' thing that causes the issue in people's minds. Bisexual people are (supposedly) attracted to *everyone* so how can they possibly resist.
Gay and straight people are only attracted to their own gender (or sex?) so only 'half' as sexual and less risky.
....Not literally risky. Just in some people's perceptions. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't have any biases towards meeting bi men, really I couldent care less what someone's preferences are out side there meets with me... That being said I have a rare blood type and give blood as often as I can, meeting with bi men reuses how often you can give blood... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you donate blood they ask on the form if you have had oral or anal sex with another man that could be another reason "
I was just about to put that, it's disgusting isn't it? I thought all blood was screened anyway? X |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"To be fair, some people do think that some bisexual women can't keep their hands off anyone. Women in clubs touching people without consent happens. "
Actually that's very true - most of the inappropriate touching I've seen in clubs has been by women - what I meant was more that you don't hear it said in the same way you do about bisexual men as often.
"I wonder if it's the 'bisexual' thing that causes the issue in people's minds. Bisexual people are (supposedly) attracted to *everyone* so how can they possibly resist.
Gay and straight people are only attracted to their own gender (or sex?) so only 'half' as sexual and less risky.
....Not literally risky. Just in some people's perceptions. "
I think "perception" is the key word here - there's a lot of it about bisexual men, most of it either inaccurate or painting the majority with a minority brush.
Personally I accept, so long as it's expressed in non-detogatory terms, that some people will prefer not to meet me because of my sexuality in the same way as I accept they won't want to meet me because of my body shape, my age or any other preference.
As with anything on here I'd rather focus on those that are interested in me than those that aren't. |
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"The most obvious one for me is when I go to the GUM clinic for testing, one of the questions they ask is whether you've had any sexual contact with bi guys.
If you say yes or maybe, then they advise you to get the hep jab.
That will likely put some people off, or give them the subconscious thought about bi guys being higher risk, and if that's coming from the sexual health professionals then it will lodge in your mind. I meet bi guys and it's lodged in mine."
I think you hit the nail on the head here. It may not be politically correct but statistically gay or Bi men are at MUCH higher risk of STD's like hepatitis or aids. I think anal sex probably is a big factor but also just the general promiscuity and risk taking of gay guys. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"If you donate blood they ask on the form if you have had oral or anal sex with another man that could be another reason
I was just about to put that, it's disgusting isn't it? I thought all blood was screened anyway? X"
That rule doesn't just apply to gay/bisexual men though - applies to anyone in a "high risk" group (which actually would probably include swingers!!), and whilst all blood is tested, because the "window period" for some STIs is 12 weeks (during which time it might not show up on tests) they set the 3 month rule accordingly.
Now they're obviously reliant on honesty as part of that because they have no way of *knowing* other than being told - but those are the rules and I personally accept them as they stand as I'd rather not risk the health of another by inadvertently passing something on through trying to help them.
Of course you could find arguments against that ruling for all kinds of groups that aren't ruled out and there are studies underway to allow for a more individual approach rather than a blanket one - but until the rules change (which they have done twice since 2011) then they're the rules we have to abide by. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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I think you hit the nail on the head here. It may not be politically correct but statistically gay or Bi men are at MUCH higher risk of STD's like hepatitis or aids. I think anal sex probably is a big factor but also just the general promiscuity and risk taking of gay guys."
Whilst it's undeniable that gay/bi men are considered at a higher risk of STIs so arguably are swingers!!
People who are at a higher risk of contracting an STI include:
Men who have sex with men (MSM) Commercial Sex Workers (CSW) and their clients
People from countries with higher rates of STIs
People with multiple partners, or partners from other high risk group.
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I think you hit the nail on the head here. It may not be politically correct but statistically gay or Bi men are at MUCH higher risk of STD's like hepatitis or aids. I think anal sex probably is a big factor but also just the general promiscuity and risk taking of gay guys.
Whilst it's undeniable that gay/bi men are considered at a higher risk of STIs so arguably are swingers!!
People who are at a higher risk of contracting an STI include:
Men who have sex with men (MSM) Commercial Sex Workers (CSW) and their clients
People from countries with higher rates of STIs
People with multiple partners, or partners from other high risk group.
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I think you're right there, swinging definitely cancels out a lot of the comparison but it is a question of perception I guess.
I think most men would be as promiscuous as gay guys if women didn't stop them shagging all over the place! |
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"The most obvious one for me is when I go to the GUM clinic for testing, one of the questions they ask is whether you've had any sexual contact with bi guys.
If you say yes or maybe, then they advise you to get the hep jab.
That will likely put some people off, or give them the subconscious thought about bi guys being higher risk, and if that's coming from the sexual health professionals then it will lodge in your mind. I meet bi guys and it's lodged in mine.
I think you hit the nail on the head here. It may not be politically correct but statistically gay or Bi men are at MUCH higher risk of STD's like hepatitis or aids. I think anal sex probably is a big factor but also just the general promiscuity and risk taking of gay guys."
Promiscuity brings risk for all sexualities and not all gay/bi men are promiscuous. A bisexual guy who has had a small number of male sexual partners, especially if it was a while ago and he has had full sexual health screening is no additional risk to a straight guy. Also not all gay/bi men engage in anal sex. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To be fair, some people do think that some bisexual women can't keep their hands off anyone. Women in clubs touching people without consent happens.
Actually that's very true - most of the inappropriate touching I've seen in clubs has been by women - what I meant was more that you don't hear it said in the same way you do about bisexual men as often.
I wonder if it's the 'bisexual' thing that causes the issue in people's minds. Bisexual people are (supposedly) attracted to *everyone* so how can they possibly resist.
Gay and straight people are only attracted to their own gender (or sex?) so only 'half' as sexual and less risky.
....Not literally risky. Just in some people's perceptions.
I think "perception" is the key word here - there's a lot of it about bisexual men, most of it either inaccurate or painting the majority with a minority brush.
Personally I accept, so long as it's expressed in non-detogatory terms, that some people will prefer not to meet me because of my sexuality in the same way as I accept they won't want to meet me because of my body shape, my age or any other preference.
As with anything on here I'd rather focus on those that are interested in me than those that aren't."
I'm old, I can't do the posh quote within a quote thing.  
Your first point- people are often afraid to say anything remotely negative about women for fear of retribution. Even about unwanted touching in clubs.
Your second point- if they are derogatory to me I don't mind that because it just confirms we aren't compatible.  |
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Personally, my life won't be long enough to question other peoples preferences, prejudices etc about me.
I wouldn't be the least bit interested as I am what I am.
As long as you don't try to harm me...you do you, I do me!
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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I'm old, I can't do the posh quote within a quote thing. "
I'm older and I manage 
"Your first point- people are often afraid to say anything remotely negative about women for fear of retribution. Even about unwanted touching in clubs. "
Valid point 
"Your second point- if they are derogatory to me I don't mind that because it just confirms we aren't compatible. "
Oh absolutely it does but being the stubborn curmudgeon I am I'll challenge people who are particularly derogatory too |
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