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What he has achieved is incredible. His family grafted to get him where he could be noticed, Ron Dennis rightly supported him and gave him a seat at McLaren. He nearly wins the Championship in his 1st season, scaring the bejesus out of Alonso. He then goes on to win the next year. He moves to Mercedes and then wins 6 more.
For anyone to do this, it is spectacular. To achieve the same as Schumacher in terms of Championships, but to actually outscore him in wins and poles is phenomenal.
And by the way, he is Black, the first and only black person to drive in F1. I mention this after all of the other achievements to highlight how hard this has been for him and his family.
I don’t care whether people like him or not. But his skill is unquestionable.
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"What he has achieved is incredible. His family grafted to get him where he could be noticed, Ron Dennis rightly supported him and gave him a seat at McLaren. He nearly wins the Championship in his 1st season, scaring the bejesus out of Alonso. He then goes on to win the next year. He moves to Mercedes and then wins 6 more.
For anyone to do this, it is spectacular. To achieve the same as Schumacher in terms of Championships, but to actually outscore him in wins and poles is phenomenal.
And by the way, he is Black, the first and only black person to drive in F1. I mention this after all of the other achievements to highlight how hard this has been for him and his family.
I don’t care whether people like him or not. But his skill is unquestionable.
Well done Lewis! "
Well done indeed Lewis |
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Totally agree, Lewes is a legend, and nothing should take away from that fact.
I have followed him since his early karting wins, his family and all around him have worked extremely hard to get him where he is now, and with love, unlike some dutch drivers that have had their father bully them to win, which is now sadly showing in his character.. |
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"What he has achieved is incredible. His family grafted to get him where he could be noticed, Ron Dennis rightly supported him and gave him a seat at McLaren. He nearly wins the Championship in his 1st season, scaring the bejesus out of Alonso. He then goes on to win the next year. He moves to Mercedes and then wins 6 more.
For anyone to do this, it is spectacular. To achieve the same as Schumacher in terms of Championships, but to actually outscore him in wins and poles is phenomenal.
And by the way, he is Black, the first and only black person to drive in F1. I mention this after all of the other achievements to highlight how hard this has been for him and his family.
I don’t care whether people like him or not. But his skill is unquestionable.
Well done Lewis! "
100% this! 
I only followed him from the start of his F1 career but have been a fan of his since then. What he can do behind the wheel of an F1 car is special and undeniable.
Many people seem to be holding on to the phase he seemed to go through from 2009 onwards, when he did get a bit bratty and ‘oh woe is me’; the biggest mistake he ever made was getting involved with XIX Management and that Schlesinger bint....as soon as he sacked the pair of them off, it all started working again. Plus there’s no way the Mercedes PR machine and Niki would let him act up like that! 
I honestly don’t get people’s problem with him now. Yes, he speaks his mind....thank God he does, quite a few sports folks come across as dull and anodyne.
As for his life away from the sport, good on him; he can’t race forever so he’s right to be building something be that fashion, music, environmentally-orientated or whatever.
He’s the best driver of his generation and the record books stand testament to that.
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"Continued.
He should start paying his taxes.
Well said, sir, he even writes off flying his dogs around the world as a tax right off, disgraceful!"
Its his money. Why are you so bitter about what he does with it |
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"Continued.
He should start paying his taxes.
You should get your facts straight before you start running your mouth. Lewis is in the top 5000 UK tax payers "
Well he leased his jet to... himself
https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-does-lewis-hamilton-pay-tax-what-is-the-tax-fraud-case-against-the-mercedes-driver/
I’m not picking on him particularly, Philip Green is a million times worse obviously. Just saying he started paying a bit more tax only after his hand was caught in the cookie jar.
Apart from that, he doesn’t half love himself. Self praise is no praise.
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Isn't it nice to have a very successful British sportsman who always acknowledges the people who have helped him get where he is.
The focus and drive it must take to achieve what he has is incredible.
I don't know him, his financial affairs or his personal life. I think, especially at a time like this, it's great to see his achievements |
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By *m3232Man
over a year ago
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The best driver in the best team says it all. Up to this year I never saw him as a man of colour only lewis the best driver.
This year is blm for me is taking a little shine off him.
I would be doing the same if I was him sod paying all that tax.
As long as any company he owns pays the correct level of Uk tax that’s all I would care about. |
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"Continued.
He should start paying his taxes.
You should get your facts straight before you start running your mouth. Lewis is in the top 5000 UK tax payers "
Of course he is with his income. But what he pays is a tiny fraction of what it should be hence why he is based in Monaco. Now if he was a regular guy I'd say good luck to him as long at it's legal. But he benefits from being a British icon and freeloads off the British public. He is a POS. |
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"Continued.
He should start paying his taxes.
You should get your facts straight before you start running your mouth. Lewis is in the top 5000 UK tax payers
Of course he is with his income. But what he pays is a tiny fraction of what it should be hence why he is based in Monaco. Now if he was a regular guy I'd say good luck to him as long at it's legal. But he benefits from being a British icon and freeloads off the
British public. He is a POS."
Lewis freeloads off the British public???
You must be mistaking him for the Royal family. The British benefit from having Lewis as an icon not the other way round. |
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"Continued.
He should start paying his taxes.
You should get your facts straight before you start running your mouth. Lewis is in the top 5000 UK tax payers
Of course he is with his income. But what he pays is a tiny fraction of what it should be hence why he is based in Monaco. Now if he was a regular guy I'd say good luck to him as long at it's legal. But he benefits from being a British icon and freeloads off the British public. He is a POS."
How is he freeloading? What money does he take from the UK? |
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Anyone who drives a car at 200 mph and could die at almost every corner deserves respect.
Better car yes but no one ever says that about ronaldo or messi.
The tax thing is an issue but be honest with yourself if you could save from paying tax legally then you would. Blame the game not the player |
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"Continued.
He should start paying his taxes."
All the money he earns from work he does in the UK, e.g. anything in Brackley, is taxed according to UK law.
All the work he does elsewhere is nothing to do with this country and many F1 drivers move to Monaco. Button did it and no-one cared....Lewis does it and he’s vilified.
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"Continued.
He should start paying his taxes.
All the money he earns from work he does in the UK, e.g. anything in Brackley, is taxed according to UK law.
All the work he does elsewhere is nothing to do with this country and many F1 drivers move to Monaco. Button did it and no-one cared....Lewis does it and he’s vilified.
Wonder why....? "
I vilified Button, Coulthard, and ITT Philip Green for doing it. Please don’t generalise.
Harry Redknapp, Branson.... it’s not a racial thing. |
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"Continued.
He should start paying his taxes.
All the money he earns from work he does in the UK, e.g. anything in Brackley, is taxed according to UK law.
All the work he does elsewhere is nothing to do with this country and many F1 drivers move to Monaco. Button did it and no-one cared....Lewis does it and he’s vilified.
Wonder why....?
I vilified Button, Coulthard, and ITT Philip Green for doing it. Please don’t generalise.
Harry Redknapp, Branson.... it’s not a racial thing. "
I wasn’t talking specifically about you. Don’t individualise. |
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"I wonder what the coverage of this acheivement would have been if this were Jensen Button?
He would have been knighted this morning lol"
It took a long time For Jackie Stewart to get his knighthood, and the reason for that, allegedly, seemed from the fact he was tax exile in Switzerland.
I'd be surprised if Hamilton isn't knighted in the New Years Honours list. |
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Perfect way for him to win the 7th title yesterday.
When all the other drivers are spinning in atrocious conditions, he barely lost control and managed the race to perfection, pulling out enough time to take another pit stop if needed.
Respect also to Vettel for a great drive and a wonderful response after the race, after all the shit he's been through recently. |
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"Continued.
He should start paying his taxes.
All the money he earns from work he does in the UK, e.g. anything in Brackley, is taxed according to UK law.
All the work he does elsewhere is nothing to do with this country and many F1 drivers move to Monaco. Button did it and no-one cared....Lewis does it and he’s vilified.
Wonder why....? "
That's the thing that most people do not understand. He pays his taxes for what he earns here but looks like a lot of those that don't like him for obvious reasons what him to pay tax for his net worth. Most F1 drivers do move to Monaco,that's their playground and you hang with those you have something in common with just as most A list actors live in and around Hollywood |
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By *rben112Man
over a year ago
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He was absolutely outstanding yesterday and proved why he is ONE of the greats. Tire management, tactical decisions and race craft far above anyone else out there.
Vettel has a great point. Every generation has someone very special, the last was Schumacher and this one is undoubtedly Hamilton.
Rosbergs year is the only blot in the run but it took everything out of Rosberg and he will probably admit that one day. |
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"Isn't it nice to have a very successful British sportsman who always acknowledges the people who have helped him get where he is.
The focus and drive it must take to achieve what he has is incredible.
I don't know him, his financial affairs or his personal life. I think, especially at a time like this, it's great to see his achievements "
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"He was absolutely outstanding yesterday and proved why he is ONE of the greats. Tire management, tactical decisions and race craft far above anyone else out there.
Vettel has a great point. Every generation has someone very special, the last was Schumacher and this one is undoubtedly Hamilton.
Rosbergs year is the only blot in the run but it took everything out of Rosberg and he will probably admit that one day."
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"What he has achieved is incredible. His family grafted to get him where he could be noticed, Ron Dennis rightly supported him and gave him a seat at McLaren. He nearly wins the Championship in his 1st season, scaring the bejesus out of Alonso. He then goes on to win the next year. He moves to Mercedes and then wins 6 more.
For anyone to do this, it is spectacular. To achieve the same as Schumacher in terms of Championships, but to actually outscore him in wins and poles is phenomenal.
And by the way, he is Black, the first and only black person to drive in F1. I mention this after all of the other achievements to highlight how hard this has been for him and his family.
I don’t care whether people like him or not. But his skill is unquestionable.
Well done Lewis! "
Technically he won the championship in his second season, he lost it in his first season to kimmi. |
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Honestly he's a big role model to me, been following his career since his first season. As a black athlete in a sport dominated by white persons he's a pioneer like Tiger Woods and Serena Williams.
I think his achievements are second to none and I personally call him the GOAT and I love the fact that he takes stances on issues like police brutality and the black lives matter movement. It honestly made me respect him a lot more.
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"Perfect way for him to win the 7th title yesterday.
When all the other drivers are spinning in atrocious conditions, he barely lost control and managed the race to perfection, pulling out enough time to take another pit stop if needed.
Respect also to Vettel for a great drive and a wonderful response after the race, after all the shit he's been through recently. "
Indeed and great race by Vettel as well |
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"I like him but wish he would quit now as i fear he may not survive if he carries on.
I think he still has couple more years in him."
I’d agree. I think he’ll stay until the end of 2022, so he’ll get a season in the new cars to see what they’re like and then call time.
Toto will mostly likely have stepped back somewhat by then and I don’t think Lewis will stick around for anyone else. |
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"Honestly he's a big role model to me, been following his career since his first season. As a black athlete in a sport dominated by white persons he's a pioneer like Tiger Woods and Serena Williams.
I think his achievements are second to none and I personally call him the GOAT and I love the fact that he takes stances on issues like police brutality and the black lives matter movement. It honestly made me respect him a lot more.
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He's a legend and he'll create records that will take a while to break |
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He is very f good, but he's driven for the best team throughout his career and cars are so much safer and reliable. If he carries on next season he could have more wins than GP's driven by Jackie Stewart. There are so many GP's these days that a dominant driver in a dominant team will rack up enormous numbers. Unless they massively change the rules I expect his records will soon be under threat and beaten. |
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"He is very f good, but he's driven for the best team throughout his career and cars are so much safer and reliable. If he carries on next season he could have more wins than GP's driven by Jackie Stewart. There are so many GP's these days that a dominant driver in a dominant team will rack up enormous numbers. Unless they massively change the rules I expect his records will soon be under threat and beaten. "
There are always massive changes in rules, 2022 will be a huge change. I personally don't agree that he's always been in the best car either, certainly in 2008 the ferrari was the best car but Lewis made up for the lesser performance... arguably he would have won the year before too if he hadn't been left out too long before that pitstop in China. 2017 the Redbull was a better car than the Mercedes, but again Hamilton was consistently better than Vetel especially in the races he didn't win... Vetel would either win or be out of the points where as Lewis would be on the podium if he didn't win.
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"He is very f good, but he's driven for the best team throughout his career and cars are so much safer and reliable. If he carries on next season he could have more wins than GP's driven by Jackie Stewart. There are so many GP's these days that a dominant driver in a dominant team will rack up enormous numbers. Unless they massively change the rules I expect his records will soon be under threat and beaten. "
I reckon he'll go for an eigth championship as that will be very hard to beat. |
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"What he has achieved is incredible. His family grafted to get him where he could be noticed, Ron Dennis rightly supported him and gave him a seat at McLaren. He nearly wins the Championship in his 1st season, scaring the bejesus out of Alonso. He then goes on to win the next year. He moves to Mercedes and then wins 6 more.
For anyone to do this, it is spectacular. To achieve the same as Schumacher in terms of Championships, but to actually outscore him in wins and poles is phenomenal.
And by the way, he is Black, the first and only black person to drive in F1. I mention this after all of the other achievements to highlight how hard this has been for him and his family.
I don’t care whether people like him or not. But his skill is unquestionable.
Well done Lewis!
Technically he won the championship in his second season, he lost it in his first season to kimmi. "
See above “he nearly wins the championship in his 1st season”.
He is an incredible driver. Anyone who has raced a car will know how hard it is to do what he has done. A real genius behindvthe wheel |
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"What he has achieved is incredible. His family grafted to get him where he could be noticed, Ron Dennis rightly supported him and gave him a seat at McLaren. He nearly wins the Championship in his 1st season, scaring the bejesus out of Alonso. He then goes on to win the next year. He moves to Mercedes and then wins 6 more.
For anyone to do this, it is spectacular. To achieve the same as Schumacher in terms of Championships, but to actually outscore him in wins and poles is phenomenal.
And by the way, he is Black, the first and only black person to drive in F1. I mention this after all of the other achievements to highlight how hard this has been for him and his family.
I don’t care whether people like him or not. But his skill is unquestionable.
Well done Lewis!
Technically he won the championship in his second season, he lost it in his first season to kimmi.
See above “he nearly wins the championship in his 1st season”.
He is an incredible driver. Anyone who has raced a car will know how hard it is to do what he has done. A real genius behindvthe wheel "
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"Don't like the guy. MotoGP way more exciting, and they take bigger risks, and probably don't earn half of what the f1 drivers do. "
Stick to watching MotoGP then. And you should see how well Lewis handles a motorcycle, he's a complete racer
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"So which up and coming young black driver is Hamilton sponsoring? Surely there must be one he has put his hand in his pocket to sponsor? "
He’s been sponsored since he was a kid so don’t see why he couldn’t do the same for another lad. His money I guess |
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"I wonder what the coverage of this acheivement would have been if this were Jensen Button?
Difference is Jensen actually comes across as likeable.
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Is it necessary to like somebody to appreciate their achievements? |
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"So which up and coming young black driver is Hamilton sponsoring? Surely there must be one he has put his hand in his pocket to sponsor?
He’s been sponsored since he was a kid so don’t see why he couldn’t do the same for another lad. His money I guess "
All talk and short arms is he then? |
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"Continued.
He should start paying his taxes.
You should get your facts straight before you start running your mouth. Lewis is in the top 5000 UK tax payers "
...and he's hardly unique as a high net worth individual sheltering his income from tax, rightly or wrongly. |
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"So which up and coming young black driver is Hamilton sponsoring? Surely there must be one he has put his hand in his pocket to sponsor?
He’s been sponsored since he was a kid so don’t see why he couldn’t do the same for another lad. His money I guess
All talk and short arms is he then?"
Tbf I remember vividly when I said that |
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"So which up and coming young black driver is Hamilton sponsoring? Surely there must be one he has put his hand in his pocket to sponsor?
He’s been sponsored since he was a kid so don’t see why he couldn’t do the same for another lad. His money I guess
All talk and short arms is he then?"
He directs his philanthropy through the Lewis Hamilton Foundation. |
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"So which up and coming young black driver is Hamilton sponsoring? Surely there must be one he has put his hand in his pocket to sponsor?
He’s been sponsored since he was a kid so don’t see why he couldn’t do the same for another lad. His money I guess
All talk and short arms is he then?
He directs his philanthropy through the Lewis Hamilton Foundation."
But doesn't sponsor a couple of up and coming drivers with a small portion of his 40 mill a year plus sponsorship. He does shout loud though about young black drivers not getting the chances though. A good talker but no action. |
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"So which up and coming young black driver is Hamilton sponsoring? Surely there must be one he has put his hand in his pocket to sponsor?
He’s been sponsored since he was a kid so don’t see why he couldn’t do the same for another lad. His money I guess
All talk and short arms is he then?
He directs his philanthropy through the Lewis Hamilton Foundation.
But doesn't sponsor a couple of up and coming drivers with a small portion of his 40 mill a year plus sponsorship. He does shout loud though about young black drivers not getting the chances though. A good talker but no action. "
Another one that just types without knowing the facts. Do your research before you post . |
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"I wonder what the coverage of this acheivement would have been if this were Jensen Button?
Difference is Jensen actually comes across as likeable.
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You said it "comes across",so you don't know if he is nice just as most can't justify why they think Lewis is not a nice person |
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"I wonder what the coverage of this acheivement would have been if this were Jensen Button?
Difference is Jensen actually comes across as likeable.
Is it necessary to like somebody to appreciate their achievements? "
My thoughts exactly. An achievement is not a popularity contest. |
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"So which up and coming young black driver is Hamilton sponsoring? Surely there must be one he has put his hand in his pocket to sponsor?
He’s been sponsored since he was a kid so don’t see why he couldn’t do the same for another lad. His money I guess
All talk and short arms is he then?
He directs his philanthropy through the Lewis Hamilton Foundation.
But doesn't sponsor a couple of up and coming drivers with a small portion of his 40 mill a year plus sponsorship. He does shout loud though about young black drivers not getting the chances though. A good talker but no action. "
Maybe he's too busy giving to UNICEF and Save The Children? |
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"I wonder what the coverage of this acheivement would have been if this were Jensen Button?
Difference is Jensen actually comes across as likeable.
Is it necessary to like somebody to appreciate their achievements? "
No ofcourse not
Doesnt change the fact he comes across as a self rightous prick though
My point was that Jensen doesnt get the stick about the tax stuff because he actually comes across as a nice person. Aswelll as promoting younger drivers in GT3 with TJR
on merit to..not skin colour
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"I wonder what the coverage of this acheivement would have been if this were Jensen Button?
Difference is Jensen actually comes across as likeable.
Is it necessary to like somebody to appreciate their achievements?
No ofcourse not
Doesnt change the fact he comes across as a self rightous prick though
My point was that Jensen doesnt get the stick about the tax stuff because he actually comes across as a nice person. Aswelll as promoting younger drivers in GT3 with TJR
on merit to..not skin colour
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Jenson doesn't get any stick about the tax coz of his skin colour. There's nothing wrong or illegal about what Lewis or any of the other F1 drivers who live in Monaco are doing. Besides living in Monaco none of Lewis haters can actually say why they think he's not a nice person. Do you even know how much charity work he does? I don't think so but all you have to say is he's a self righteous prick,based on what exactly? |
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"So which up and coming young black driver is Hamilton sponsoring? Surely there must be one he has put his hand in his pocket to sponsor?
He’s been sponsored since he was a kid so don’t see why he couldn’t do the same for another lad. His money I guess
All talk and short arms is he then?
He directs his philanthropy through the Lewis Hamilton Foundation.
But doesn't sponsor a couple of up and coming drivers with a small portion of his 40 mill a year plus sponsorship. He does shout loud though about young black drivers not getting the chances though. A good talker but no action. "
Lewis Hamilton is the only black F1 driver for a reason: it's not a "black" sport. I doubt there are many black boys wanting to emulate him and be around rich, white people. Just like you don't see white boys from council estates on the circuit.
I've never been a fan of Lewis and I couldn't tell you why. I don't like Mo Farah either and he comes across as a decent bloke. Difference is they have achieved success in their field and I acknowledge that. |
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"So which up and coming young black driver is Hamilton sponsoring? Surely there must be one he has put his hand in his pocket to sponsor?
He’s been sponsored since he was a kid so don’t see why he couldn’t do the same for another lad. His money I guess
All talk and short arms is he then?
He directs his philanthropy through the Lewis Hamilton Foundation.
But doesn't sponsor a couple of up and coming drivers with a small portion of his 40 mill a year plus sponsorship. He does shout loud though about young black drivers not getting the chances though. A good talker but no action.
Lewis Hamilton is the only black F1 driver for a reason: it's not a "black" sport. I doubt there are many black boys wanting to emulate him and be around rich, white people. Just like you don't see white boys from council estates on the circuit.
I've never been a fan of Lewis and I couldn't tell you why. I don't like Mo Farah either and he comes across as a decent bloke. Difference is they have achieved success in their field and I acknowledge that. "
There's an honest person. But I don't belive that young boys and girls should grow up believing that there are certain sports for certain races. |
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"What he has achieved is incredible. His family grafted to get him where he could be noticed, Ron Dennis rightly supported him and gave him a seat at McLaren. He nearly wins the Championship in his 1st season, scaring the bejesus out of Alonso. He then goes on to win the next year. He moves to Mercedes and then wins 6 more.
For anyone to do this, it is spectacular. To achieve the same as Schumacher in terms of Championships, but to actually outscore him in wins and poles is phenomenal.
And by the way, he is Black, the first and only black person to drive in F1. I mention this after all of the other achievements to highlight how hard this has been for him and his family.
I don’t care whether people like him or not. But his skill is unquestionable.
Well done Lewis!
Well done indeed Lewis"
He’s done ok, but Damon Hills eyebrows are something else |
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"What he has achieved is incredible. His family grafted to get him where he could be noticed, Ron Dennis rightly supported him and gave him a seat at McLaren. He nearly wins the Championship in his 1st season, scaring the bejesus out of Alonso. He then goes on to win the next year. He moves to Mercedes and then wins 6 more.
For anyone to do this, it is spectacular. To achieve the same as Schumacher in terms of Championships, but to actually outscore him in wins and poles is phenomenal.
And by the way, he is Black, the first and only black person to drive in F1. I mention this after all of the other achievements to highlight how hard this has been for him and his family.
I don’t care whether people like him or not. But his skill is unquestionable.
Well done Lewis!
Well done indeed Lewis
He’s done ok, but Damon Hills eyebrows are something else "
Did Roger Federer, or Rapha Nadal do ok? How about Messi? In absolute terms, Hamilton has been incredible. In the same car, Bottas was 13 places behind him. It is not just the car, or the team - Hamilton is the best driver of the past 15 years and arguably one of the best ever. |
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Any discussion of this sort, spanning generations, is purely subjective. My opinion is just that - neither right nor wrong, just what I believe.
Generally the further back in time you go, the less the differential between the cars. Yes, there were exceptions (Williams in the early 90s and McLaren in the late 80s) but generally you didn't know which team would win like you do now (and did with Red Bull before that).
For this reason I don't think that Lewis, nor Schumaker, can hold a candle to Fangio - winning 5 titles back in the 50s.
I also think that the 80s were the peak time for F1 in terms of quality of driver across the field. Because of the relative lack of quality, again, I don't view Shumaker or Hamilton (or Vettel) in the same bracket as the drivers back then.
And I haven't even mentioned the greats of the 60s and 70s - Clark, Moss, Stewart, etc.
Ability, skill achievement of both Hamilton and Shumaker are undisputed. But as for the GOAT - nah, not for me, not by a long chalk. |
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"I wonder what the coverage of this acheivement would have been if this were Jensen Button?
Difference is Jensen actually comes across as likeable.
Is it necessary to like somebody to appreciate their achievements?
No ofcourse not
Doesnt change the fact he comes across as a self rightous prick though
My point was that Jensen doesnt get the stick about the tax stuff because he actually comes across as a nice person. Aswelll as promoting younger drivers in GT3 with TJR
on merit to..not skin colour
Jenson doesn't get any stick about the tax coz of his skin colour. There's nothing wrong or illegal about what Lewis or any of the other F1 drivers who live in Monaco are doing. Besides living in Monaco none of Lewis haters can actually say why they think he's not a nice person. Do you even know how much charity work he does? I don't think so but all you have to say is he's a self righteous prick,based on what exactly?"
Nothing to do with skin colour. While you have to admire his achievements, there’s something there that stops the British public taking him to heart. My 92 year old Mum loves him by the way but she’s a big F1 fan. It could be that so many people now see Fi as boring and more of a circus than a sport? Motorsport in general may have had its day, it’s the same old same old. It used to be a good way to advertise but now so many better options.
I’m sure if I met Lewis he would be charming engaging company. What is it that stops the great British public loving him in the same way we did Nick Faldo, Joe Bugner, John Terry? |
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I’m afraid I never liked/like Faldo, Bugner or Terry. Nor would I argue any of them are as good at what they do as Hamilton is at what he does.
Sport is not about ‘is the person the nicest’, it is about arethey the best - Hamilton is easily the best... |
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"I’m afraid I never liked/like Faldo, Bugner or Terry. Nor would I argue any of them are as good at what they do as Hamilton is at what he does.
Sport is not about ‘is the person the nicest’, it is about arethey the best - Hamilton is easily the best..."
I was kidding with my three examples although I would argue that Faldo’s achievements were greater than Lewis. Beating a bigger field and with the same equipment. |
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"I’m afraid I never liked/like Faldo, Bugner or Terry. Nor would I argue any of them are as good at what they do as Hamilton is at what he does.
Sport is not about ‘is the person the nicest’, it is about arethey the best - Hamilton is easily the best...
I was kidding with my three examples although I would argue that Faldo’s achievements were greater than Lewis. Beating a bigger field and with the same equipment. "
I totally accept Faldo was a brilliant Golfer. Would that make him better than Hamilton, I’d argue not but that is an opinion - Faldo of course never had to deal with the chance of losing his life on a golf course... |
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What with all these people calling him black? Surely that's a little un PC... He's mixed race? His mum was White. What he has achieved is quite outstanding. The most successful driver ever.. The man's certainly has balls and skills |
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"I’m afraid I never liked/like Faldo, Bugner or Terry. Nor would I argue any of them are as good at what they do as Hamilton is at what he does.
Sport is not about ‘is the person the nicest’, it is about arethey the best - Hamilton is easily the best...
I was kidding with my three examples although I would argue that Faldo’s achievements were greater than Lewis. Beating a bigger field and with the same equipment.
I totally accept Faldo was a brilliant Golfer. Would that make him better than Hamilton, I’d argue not but that is an opinion - Faldo of course never had to deal with the chance of losing his life on a golf course..."
If I was on the same course, he would be in mortal danger! |
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"For all those people who think it's the car, let's not forget that Lewis has shared cars with three former/future champions, beat each of them at least once and was beaten only once."
Twice - Button at McLaren and Rosberg at Mercedes. |
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"I’m afraid I never liked/like Faldo, Bugner or Terry. Nor would I argue any of them are as good at what they do as Hamilton is at what he does.
Sport is not about ‘is the person the nicest’, it is about arethey the best - Hamilton is easily the best...
I was kidding with my three examples although I would argue that Faldo’s achievements were greater than Lewis. Beating a bigger field and with the same equipment.
I totally accept Faldo was a brilliant Golfer. Would that make him better than Hamilton, I’d argue not but that is an opinion - Faldo of course never had to deal with the chance of losing his life on a golf course...
If I was on the same course, he would be in mortal danger! "
Haha, fair point! |
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"I wonder what the coverage of this acheivement would have been if this were Jensen Button?
Difference is Jensen actually comes across as likeable.
Is it necessary to like somebody to appreciate their achievements?
No ofcourse not
Doesnt change the fact he comes across as a self rightous prick though
My point was that Jensen doesnt get the stick about the tax stuff because he actually comes across as a nice person. Aswelll as promoting younger drivers in GT3 with TJR
on merit to..not skin colour
Jenson doesn't get any stick about the tax coz of his skin colour. There's nothing wrong or illegal about what Lewis or any of the other F1 drivers who live in Monaco are doing. Besides living in Monaco none of Lewis haters can actually say why they think he's not a nice person. Do you even know how much charity work he does? I don't think so but all you have to say is he's a self righteous prick,based on what exactly?"
Typical, say you dont like somone so must be about race and insinuate i am a racist.
I dont like being preached to by a man who has more than 99.999% of the worlds population will ever have. While driving for a team and sponsors steeped in negative history.
Chris Harris afaik is also from a mixed race family and he is great |
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"I wonder what the coverage of this acheivement would have been if this were Jensen Button?
Difference is Jensen actually comes across as likeable.
Is it necessary to like somebody to appreciate their achievements?
No ofcourse not
Doesnt change the fact he comes across as a self rightous prick though
My point was that Jensen doesnt get the stick about the tax stuff because he actually comes across as a nice person. Aswelll as promoting younger drivers in GT3 with TJR
on merit to..not skin colour
Jenson doesn't get any stick about the tax coz of his skin colour. There's nothing wrong or illegal about what Lewis or any of the other F1 drivers who live in Monaco are doing. Besides living in Monaco none of Lewis haters can actually say why they think he's not a nice person. Do you even know how much charity work he does? I don't think so but all you have to say is he's a self righteous prick,based on what exactly?
Nothing to do with skin colour. While you have to admire his achievements, there’s something there that stops the British public taking him to heart. My 92 year old Mum loves him by the way but she’s a big F1 fan. It could be that so many people now see Fi as boring and more of a circus than a sport? Motorsport in general may have had its day, it’s the same old same old. It used to be a good way to advertise but now so many better options.
I’m sure if I met Lewis he would be charming engaging company. What is it that stops the great British public loving him in the same way we did Nick Faldo, Joe Bugner, John Terry?"
F1 is stagnating imo and extremely boring. I would rather watch the whole 24 hours of spa, Nords or Le mans over a singular f1 race.
I much more of a fan of Estre or Tandy than any F1 driver
Nick Tandy no one cares about or even makes the news even though he is a multiple 24 hour race winner |
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"I wonder what the coverage of this acheivement would have been if this were Jensen Button?
Difference is Jensen actually comes across as likeable.
Is it necessary to like somebody to appreciate their achievements?
No ofcourse not
Doesnt change the fact he comes across as a self rightous prick though
My point was that Jensen doesnt get the stick about the tax stuff because he actually comes across as a nice person. Aswelll as promoting younger drivers in GT3 with TJR
on merit to..not skin colour
Jenson doesn't get any stick about the tax coz of his skin colour. There's nothing wrong or illegal about what Lewis or any of the other F1 drivers who live in Monaco are doing. Besides living in Monaco none of Lewis haters can actually say why they think he's not a nice person. Do you even know how much charity work he does? I don't think so but all you have to say is he's a self righteous prick,based on what exactly?
Nothing to do with skin colour. While you have to admire his achievements, there’s something there that stops the British public taking him to heart. My 92 year old Mum loves him by the way but she’s a big F1 fan. It could be that so many people now see Fi as boring and more of a circus than a sport? Motorsport in general may have had its day, it’s the same old same old. It used to be a good way to advertise but now so many better options.
I’m sure if I met Lewis he would be charming engaging company. What is it that stops the great British public loving him in the same way we did Nick Faldo, Joe Bugner, John Terry?
F1 is stagnating imo and extremely boring. I would rather watch the whole 24 hours of spa, Nords or Le mans over a singular f1 race.
I much more of a fan of Estre or Tandy than any F1 driver
Nick Tandy no one cares about or even makes the news even though he is a multiple 24 hour race winner"
Maybe start a Nick Tandy forum? This one is about Lewis and his achievements |
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"What he has achieved is incredible. His family grafted to get him where he could be noticed, Ron Dennis rightly supported him and gave him a seat at McLaren. He nearly wins the Championship in his 1st season, scaring the bejesus out of Alonso. He then goes on to win the next year. He moves to Mercedes and then wins 6 more.
For anyone to do this, it is spectacular. To achieve the same as Schumacher in terms of Championships, but to actually outscore him in wins and poles is phenomenal.
And by the way, he is Black, the first and only black person to drive in F1. I mention this after all of the other achievements to highlight how hard this has been for him and his family.
I don’t care whether people like him or not. But his skill is unquestionable.
Well done Lewis! "
hes not the first black f1 driver sorry
Ribbs was |
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"I wonder what the coverage of this acheivement would have been if this were Jensen Button?
Difference is Jensen actually comes across as likeable.
Is it necessary to like somebody to appreciate their achievements?
No ofcourse not
Doesnt change the fact he comes across as a self rightous prick though
My point was that Jensen doesnt get the stick about the tax stuff because he actually comes across as a nice person. Aswelll as promoting younger drivers in GT3 with TJR
on merit to..not skin colour
Jenson doesn't get any stick about the tax coz of his skin colour. There's nothing wrong or illegal about what Lewis or any of the other F1 drivers who live in Monaco are doing. Besides living in Monaco none of Lewis haters can actually say why they think he's not a nice person. Do you even know how much charity work he does? I don't think so but all you have to say is he's a self righteous prick,based on what exactly?
Typical, say you dont like somone so must be about race and insinuate i am a racist.
I dont like being preached to by a man who has more than 99.999% of the worlds population will ever have. While driving for a team and sponsors steeped in negative history.
Chris Harris afaik is also from a mixed race family and he is great"
There it is. No one called you a racist. You seem to be very bitter about Lewis' success typical |
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"What he has achieved is incredible. His family grafted to get him where he could be noticed, Ron Dennis rightly supported him and gave him a seat at McLaren. He nearly wins the Championship in his 1st season, scaring the bejesus out of Alonso. He then goes on to win the next year. He moves to Mercedes and then wins 6 more.
For anyone to do this, it is spectacular. To achieve the same as Schumacher in terms of Championships, but to actually outscore him in wins and poles is phenomenal.
And by the way, he is Black, the first and only black person to drive in F1. I mention this after all of the other achievements to highlight how hard this has been for him and his family.
I don’t care whether people like him or not. But his skill is unquestionable.
Well done Lewis!
hes not the first black f1 driver sorry
Ribbs was"
Willy Ribbs was not an F1 driver ,he was the first black man to TEST drive an F1 car for Bramham. He never became an F1 driver. |
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"What he has achieved is incredible. His family grafted to get him where he could be noticed, Ron Dennis rightly supported him and gave him a seat at McLaren. He nearly wins the Championship in his 1st season, scaring the bejesus out of Alonso. He then goes on to win the next year. He moves to Mercedes and then wins 6 more.
For anyone to do this, it is spectacular. To achieve the same as Schumacher in terms of Championships, but to actually outscore him in wins and poles is phenomenal.
And by the way, he is Black, the first and only black person to drive in F1. I mention this after all of the other achievements to highlight how hard this has been for him and his family.
I don’t care whether people like him or not. But his skill is unquestionable.
Well done Lewis!
hes not the first black f1 driver sorry
Ribbs was
Willy Ribbs was not an F1 driver ,he was the first black man to TEST drive an F1 car for Bramham. He never became an F1 driver."
true, but he still drove one |
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"What he has achieved is incredible. His family grafted to get him where he could be noticed, Ron Dennis rightly supported him and gave him a seat at McLaren. He nearly wins the Championship in his 1st season, scaring the bejesus out of Alonso. He then goes on to win the next year. He moves to Mercedes and then wins 6 more.
For anyone to do this, it is spectacular. To achieve the same as Schumacher in terms of Championships, but to actually outscore him in wins and poles is phenomenal.
And by the way, he is Black, the first and only black person to drive in F1. I mention this after all of the other achievements to highlight how hard this has been for him and his family.
I don’t care whether people like him or not. But his skill is unquestionable.
Well done Lewis!
hes not the first black f1 driver sorry
Ribbs was
Willy Ribbs was not an F1 driver ,he was the first black man to TEST drive an F1 car for Bramham. He never became an F1 driver.
true, but he still drove one"
Yes he did |
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"For all those people who think it's the car, let's not forget that Lewis has shared cars with three former/future champions, beat each of them at least once and was beaten only once.
Twice - Button at McLaren and Rosberg at Mercedes."
Three times including Alonso at McLaren (a former champion he beat in his first year). |
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"For all those people who think it's the car, let's not forget that Lewis has shared cars with three former/future champions, beat each of them at least once and was beaten only once.
Twice - Button at McLaren and Rosberg at Mercedes.
Three times including Alonso at McLaren (a former champion he beat in his first year)."
Hamilton was beaten by teammates only by Button and Rosberg. He finished on the same points as Alonso in 2007, but came 2nd on countback - as well as being only 1 point behind Raikkonen in his first season. Pretty impressive really. |
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"For all those people who think it's the car, let's not forget that Lewis has shared cars with three former/future champions, beat each of them at least once and was beaten only once.
Twice - Button at McLaren and Rosberg at Mercedes.
Three times including Alonso at McLaren (a former champion he beat in his first year).
Hamilton was beaten by teammates only by Button and Rosberg. He finished on the same points as Alonso in 2007, but came 2nd on countback - as well as being only 1 point behind Raikkonen in his first season. Pretty impressive really."
They handed the championship to Rosberg otherwise LH would have been 8 times champion. Why retire straight after winning your first championship would at least try and defend it. |
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"What he has achieved is incredible. His family grafted to get him where he could be noticed, Ron Dennis rightly supported him and gave him a seat at McLaren. He nearly wins the Championship in his 1st season, scaring the bejesus out of Alonso. He then goes on to win the next year. He moves to Mercedes and then wins 6 more.
For anyone to do this, it is spectacular. To achieve the same as Schumacher in terms of Championships, but to actually outscore him in wins and poles is phenomenal.
And by the way, he is Black, the first and only black person to drive in F1. I mention this after all of the other achievements to highlight how hard this has been for him and his family.
I don’t care whether people like him or not. But his skill is unquestionable.
Well done Lewis!
hes not the first black f1 driver sorry
Ribbs was
Willy Ribbs was not an F1 driver ,he was the first black man to TEST drive an F1 car for Bramham. He never became an F1 driver.
true, but he still drove one"
Just because you drove one doesn’t make you an F1 driver. You need to enter a GP for that accolade |
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"For all those people who think it's the car, let's not forget that Lewis has shared cars with three former/future champions, beat each of them at least once and was beaten only once.
Twice - Button at McLaren and Rosberg at Mercedes.
Three times including Alonso at McLaren (a former champion he beat in his first year).
Hamilton was beaten by teammates only by Button and Rosberg. He finished on the same points as Alonso in 2007, but came 2nd on countback - as well as being only 1 point behind Raikkonen in his first season. Pretty impressive really."
Ah OK, with you now - didn't realise Button outscored him. |
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