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"cant stand him" It doesn't change who he is and his greatness dude. | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down "Yes, the neg force is strong in this thread..... | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down "Well said | |||
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"He just drives a car. There a loads more deserving of greatness" Like??? | |||
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"He is undeniably great at what he does...fair play to him"  | |||
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"I used to watch F1 back when Senna, Prost, Mansell and a young Damon Hill were racing. Got excited again with Schumacher but due to being a biker turned to Motorcycle instead. A lot more overtaking, crashes and last minute leads taken on the last lap. Plus I was a lot more emphatic to a guy on two wheels racing through wind and rain, than a guy on four. However I do appreciate the skills and greatness of Lewis Hamilton and what he’s achieved. But the enjoyment of F1 left me a long time ago. Due to that I’ve never really seen or enjoyed his racing but expect him to get Sports Personality of the Year in a few weeks time "Marc Marquez is the the fucking boy!  | |||
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"I used to watch F1 back when Senna, Prost, Mansell and a young Damon Hill were racing. Got excited again with Schumacher but due to being a biker turned to Motorcycle instead. A lot more overtaking, crashes and last minute leads taken on the last lap. Plus I was a lot more emphatic to a guy on two wheels racing through wind and rain, than a guy on four. However I do appreciate the skills and greatness of Lewis Hamilton and what he’s achieved. But the enjoyment of F1 left me a long time ago. Due to that I’ve never really seen or enjoyed his racing but expect him to get Sports Personality of the Year in a few weeks time
Marc Marquez is the the fucking boy! "The Professor  | |||
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"I used to watch F1 back when Senna, Prost, Mansell and a young Damon Hill were racing. Got excited again with Schumacher but due to being a biker turned to Motorcycle instead. A lot more overtaking, crashes and last minute leads taken on the last lap. Plus I was a lot more emphatic to a guy on two wheels racing through wind and rain, than a guy on four. However I do appreciate the skills and greatness of Lewis Hamilton and what he’s achieved. But the enjoyment of F1 left me a long time ago. Due to that I’ve never really seen or enjoyed his racing but expect him to get Sports Personality of the Year in a few weeks time
Marc Marquez is the the fucking boy! "Fucking boy...thought we were talking about drivers  | |||
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"I used to watch F1 back when Senna, Prost, Mansell and a young Damon Hill were racing. Got excited again with Schumacher but due to being a biker turned to Motorcycle instead. A lot more overtaking, crashes and last minute leads taken on the last lap. Plus I was a lot more emphatic to a guy on two wheels racing through wind and rain, than a guy on four. However I do appreciate the skills and greatness of Lewis Hamilton and what he’s achieved. But the enjoyment of F1 left me a long time ago. Due to that I’ve never really seen or enjoyed his racing but expect him to get Sports Personality of the Year in a few weeks time
Marc Marquez is the the fucking boy!
Fucking boy...thought we were talking about drivers "Riders.. if you want to be pedantic. But yes, he’s a lad, and a fucking cheeky one at that. | |||
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"He just drives a car. There a loads more deserving of greatness" He is the best in the world (and arguably the best ever) at what he does. How many people can make that claim | |||
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"Don't know why he's such a marmite character, although my niece has met him, she doesn't think he's very bright" You should hear what she says about you  | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down "Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid. | |||
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"He just drives a car. There a loads more deserving of greatness He is the best in the world (and arguably the best ever) at what he does. How many people can make that claim " Plenty! And all are way more personable than him | |||
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"I used to watch F1 back when Senna, Prost, Mansell and a young Damon Hill were racing. Got excited again with Schumacher but due to being a biker turned to Motorcycle instead. A lot more overtaking, crashes and last minute leads taken on the last lap. Plus I was a lot more emphatic to a guy on two wheels racing through wind and rain, than a guy on four. However I do appreciate the skills and greatness of Lewis Hamilton and what he’s achieved. But the enjoyment of F1 left me a long time ago. Due to that I’ve never really seen or enjoyed his racing but expect him to get Sports Personality of the Year in a few weeks time
Marc Marquez is the the fucking boy!
Fucking boy...thought we were talking about drivers
Riders.. if you want to be pedantic. But yes, he’s a lad, and a fucking cheeky one at that. "Cool..I do enjoy a cheeky lad...or 2 | |||
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"I don’t like him as a person, or as how he comes across when he’s out the car I should say. But when he is in that car, he is exactly what I said above. He becomes part of it and knows exactly what he can and cannot do. Proven today, by over ruling his team and choosing to power on through with shredded tyres. He’s deserving of his victories. I just wish he was more camera/fan orientated and not a fucking piece of cheese. He also has a hard neck to campaign for global warming and tell us, the masses, that we need to do more for our planet and consume a lot less fossil fuels. Wut??" He's pushing for change and does a lot of work when it comes to climate change,that's why he has created a team to race in Extreme E next year | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
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"Awesome racing driver, total throbber as a person." Right then can you tell us what he needs to do to be a good person in everyone's eyes that says he's not | |||
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"As motor racing, cars and bikes is my favourite sport sometimes you just have to accept greatness within that sport. I am lucky enough to have witnessed quite a few great riders and drivers over my lifetime. Mike Hailwood, Joey Dunlop, John Mcguinnes, John Surtees, Michael Schumacher, Ayrton Senna and Valentino Rossi. But this afternoon i think i watched the most controlled, crafted and thought out F1 drive i have ever watched by a driver that in my mind is THE greatest F1 driver anyone has seen to date. " My thoughts exactly | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down "In my opinion, he see`s himself bigger than the sport and has a hissy fit the minute he doesnt get his own way | |||
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"Don't know why he's such a marmite character, although my niece has met him, she doesn't think he's very bright You should hear what she says about you " | |||
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Can't knock his achievements though, absolutely phenomenal. And while he's still only 35 he's probably got another 10 years in him if the drive (no pun intended!) is stil there and he stays healthy. | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
"Proved my point - more wins, more poles, victories where he should have lost etc etc and he’s not great at what he does because you don’t like his personality? Seriously? | |||
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"7 time world champion and looks like he's not slowing down. What a drive, living legend. " Well done to Lewis Hamilton. I don't know him, I don't know anybody who knows him but lots of people seem to hold his success against him. Which is a shame | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
In my opinion, he see`s himself bigger than the sport and has a hissy fit the minute he doesnt get his own way"Like arseholes, everyone has an opinion | |||
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"Awesome racing driver, total throbber as a person. Right then can you tell us what he needs to do to be a good person in everyone's eyes that says he's not " People are entitled to opinion's. Its the same with everything in world especially sports. He will never please everyone. But then he doesn't have to. | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
Proved my point - more wins, more poles, victories where he should have lost etc etc and he’s not great at what he does because you don’t like his personality? Seriously?" | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
Who's money did he grab lol"Ours. Tax exile | |||
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"You could argue although he needs the skill to win races the car is what it's all about these days. So many computers and other things they almost drive themselves. No one bear him at the moment. You could argue Michael was the better driver on the day. Very arrogant and ignorant man is our Lewis. Always going on about injustice and hardships. He had never had it so easy in his life getting to where he is now. Nice to know he pays his fare share of taxes, as well whilst living in Monoco. His fair share could help reduce the poor divide in this country or go towards new hospitals etc. But obviously he is not the only fair taxdodger. Still can't take away his success though being British and a good role model for black youth "  shocking | |||
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"7 time world champion and looks like he's not slowing down. What a drive, living legend. Well done to Lewis Hamilton. I don't know him, I don't know anybody who knows him but lots of people seem to hold his success against him. Which is a shame " | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
Who's money did he grab lol
Ours. Tax exile"He still pays more tax than 99% of the population | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down "To be fair I didn’t like him as an up and comer. | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
Who's money did he grab lol
Ours. Tax exile"This is the funniest shit I've ever heard,yours ,really lol | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
Who's money did he grab lol
Ours. Tax exile
He still pays more tax than 99% of the population "Thank you | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
Proved my point - more wins, more poles, victories where he should have lost etc etc and he’s not great at what he does because you don’t like his personality? Seriously?
"I don't think I did prove your point. As I said, I don't knock every successful British driver - just him. More than happy to celebrate all the other British greats; Hill, Mandela, Hunt. | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
Who's money did he grab lol
Ours. Tax exile
He still pays more tax than 99% of the population
Thank you "But not what he SHOULD pay | |||
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"I think a few have hit the nail on the head. He's obviously a great driver but he does come across as a bit of a tool. A by product of fame and being a multi-millionaire perhaps? He also dated that "schamazing" woman so not sure he's the type of dude I'd want to have a pint with.
Can't knock his achievements though, absolutely phenomenal. And while he's still only 35 he's probably got another 10 years in him if the drive (no pun intended!) is stil there and he stays healthy."F1 drivers are generally (un) interesting, self absorbed creatures, I don't think those qualities are exclusive to Hamilton. They have an insular life, in a rarified activity and most are entrenched in it from an early age. The 70's & 80's had some charasmatic characters-fast living, life & soul of the party types but the majority were reflective, competitive and arrogant where their own ability was concerned. Modern drivers are all that and more..without the boozing & women! | |||
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" He still pays more tax than 99% of the population "He lives in the tax haven of Monte Carlo. | |||
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" More than happy to celebrate all the other British greats; Hill, Mandela, Hunt. " As great as he was I don't remember Nelson tearing up Silverstone! | |||
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"Give me a more powerful car then you and guess who would win. Give me Moto gp over that any day of the week. " | |||
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" He still pays more tax than 99% of the population
He lives in the tax haven of Monte Carlo. "Its his money,he can do with it as he pleases and can live where he wants | |||
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" More than happy to celebrate all the other British greats; Hill, Mandela, Hunt. As great as he was I don't remember Nelson tearing up Silverstone! " | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
Who's money did he grab lol
Ours. Tax exile
He still pays more tax than 99% of the population
Thank you
But not what he SHOULD pay"Referring to your earlier post Hill, Hunt & Mansell were not resident in the UK for tax purposes during their F1 careers. | |||
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"Its funny how people go on about how Lewis is not a nice person as if they know him personally or have spent a day with him" You do, I suppose? Why are you getting so upset? Chill. | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
Proved my point - more wins, more poles, victories where he should have lost etc etc and he’s not great at what he does because you don’t like his personality? Seriously?
I don't think I did prove your point. As I said, I don't knock every successful British driver - just him.
More than happy to celebrate all the other British greats; Hill, Mandela, Hunt. "Mandela? | |||
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"Its funny how people go on about how Lewis is not a nice person as if they know him personally or have spent a day with him You do, I suppose? Why are you getting so upset? Chill. " No I don't that's why I don't judge him . I appreciate him as a sports man and for the good he does | |||
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" He still pays more tax than 99% of the population
He lives in the tax haven of Monte Carlo. "According to this article in the Express, Hamilton is amongst the top 5000 tax payers in the UK, despite being non domiciled. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1321009/lewis-hamilton-news-tax-criticism-mercedes-driver-formula-one-spt | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
Proved my point - more wins, more poles, victories where he should have lost etc etc and he’s not great at what he does because you don’t like his personality? Seriously?
I don't think I did prove your point. As I said, I don't knock every successful British driver - just him.
More than happy to celebrate all the other British greats; Hill, Mandela, Hunt.
Mandela?"Yep Nelson Mandela . I'm sure he used to race at Robben Island and has 27 titles. | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
Proved my point - more wins, more poles, victories where he should have lost etc etc and he’s not great at what he does because you don’t like his personality? Seriously?
I don't think I did prove your point. As I said, I don't knock every successful British driver - just him.
More than happy to celebrate all the other British greats; Hill, Mandela, Hunt.
Mandela?"This definitely wins the "best typo ever" award.
It took me a minute to work out it should've been Mansell. | |||
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"As motor racing, cars and bikes is my favourite sport sometimes you just have to accept greatness within that sport. I am lucky enough to have witnessed quite a few great riders and drivers over my lifetime. Mike Hailwood, Joey Dunlop, John Mcguinnes, John Surtees, Michael Schumacher, Ayrton Senna and Valentino Rossi. But this afternoon i think i watched the most controlled, crafted and thought out F1 drive i have ever watched by a driver that in my mind is THE greatest F1 driver anyone has seen to date. " | |||
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"Give me the fastest car for the next 7 years and I’ll equal that " . Bottas has the same car and he can't equal shit | |||
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"Give me the fastest car for the next 7 years and I’ll equal that "If it were that easy Mercedes could dispense with Hamilton (and his wages) and recruit from the lower orders. | |||
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"Give me the fastest car for the next 7 years and I’ll equal that "Yeah ok...but do you rate him? | |||
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"Give me the fastest car for the next 7 years and I’ll equal that
If it were that easy Mercedes could dispense with Hamilton (and his wages) and recruit from the lower orders."Someone who actually understands F1 | |||
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" He still pays more tax than 99% of the population
He lives in the tax haven of Monte Carlo.
According to this article in the Express, Hamilton is amongst the top 5000 tax payers in the UK, despite being non domiciled.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1321009/lewis-hamilton-news-tax-criticism-mercedes-driver-formula-one-spt"I stand corrected. Yes he has talent, but he can also act like a petulant child when things aren’t perfect for him. | |||
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"I used to watch F1 back when Senna, Prost, Mansell and a young Damon Hill were racing. Got excited again with Schumacher but due to being a biker turned to Motorcycle instead. A lot more overtaking, crashes and last minute leads taken on the last lap. Plus I was a lot more emphatic to a guy on two wheels racing through wind and rain, than a guy on four. However I do appreciate the skills and greatness of Lewis Hamilton and what he’s achieved. But the enjoyment of F1 left me a long time ago. Due to that I’ve never really seen or enjoyed his racing but expect him to get Sports Personality of the Year in a few weeks time
Marc Marquez is the the fucking boy!
Fucking boy...thought we were talking about drivers
Riders.. if you want to be pedantic. But yes, he’s a lad, and a fucking cheeky one at that.
Cool..I do enjoy a cheeky lad...or 2 "You little minx, you  !
I think Lewis will have one more year, making it number 8. Then retire before the change in 2022 F1. | |||
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"7 time world champion and looks like he's not slowing down. What a drive, living legend. " When her does Daytona, LeMan & Suzuka then I’ll agree with you. All the real greats did
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"I don’t like him as a person, or as how he comes across when he’s out the car I should say. But when he is in that car, he is exactly what I said above. He becomes part of it and knows exactly what he can and cannot do. Proven today, by over ruling his team and choosing to power on through with shredded tyres. He’s deserving of his victories. I just wish he was more camera/fan orientated and not a fucking piece of cheese. He also has a hard neck to campaign for global warming and tell us, the masses, that we need to do more for our planet and consume a lot less fossil fuels. Wut?? He's pushing for change and does a lot of work when it comes to climate change,that's why he has created a team to race in Extreme E next year" Apologies for lateness and bringing this up later. How can you even fathom saying this? It’s not just one little car that he drives around the track that’s going to make the difference. Think of the logistics, right through from R&D, all the way to the race and then packing up again. | |||
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"7 time world champion and looks like he's not slowing down. What a drive, living legend. When her does Daytona, LeMan & Suzuka then I’ll agree with you. All the real greats did
S"Even if he doesn't it won't take away what he has achieved. He will keep breaking and creating new records and he's good at what he does,being an F1 driver | |||
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"Not a particular fan of Hamilton. But what he's done in this sport is incredible. In recent years he's had the good fortune of a excellent car behind him but occasionally (like this weekend) he gets sucked into the pack and has to drive his way out, its skill, bravery and strategy. He's one heck of a driver and I think its quite apt he wins the record equalling seventh world championship after his drive this weekend. Also enjoyed Vettel nicking a podium spot too, seemed kinda poetic after everything they've gone through. " Today experienced drivers came through. The young guys have a lot to learn (Max and Leclec). It was nice to see Sebastian on the podium again | |||
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" He still pays more tax than 99% of the population
He lives in the tax haven of Monte Carlo.
According to this article in the Express, Hamilton is amongst the top 5000 tax payers in the UK, despite being non domiciled.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1321009/lewis-hamilton-news-tax-criticism-mercedes-driver-formula-one-spt
I stand corrected. Yes he has talent, but he can also act like a petulant child when things aren’t perfect for him. "Like most of them can do | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
Who's money did he grab lol
Ours. Tax exile
He still pays more tax than 99% of the population
Thank you
But not what he SHOULD pay
Referring to your earlier post Hill, Hunt & Mansell were not resident in the UK for tax purposes during their F1 careers." | |||
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". However I do appreciate the skills and greatness of Lewis Hamilton and what he’s achieved. But the enjoyment of F1 left me a long time ago. Due to that I’ve never really seen or enjoyed his racing but expect him to get Sports Personality of the Year in a few weeks time "if it was on pure sport then yes Hamilton would probably win SPOTY this year.... but with everything that has happened, Marcus Rashford is winning this years SPOTY by a country mile!! | |||
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". However I do appreciate the skills and greatness of Lewis Hamilton and what he’s achieved. But the enjoyment of F1 left me a long time ago. Due to that I’ve never really seen or enjoyed his racing but expect him to get Sports Personality of the Year in a few weeks time
if it was on pure sport then yes Hamilton would probably win SPOTY this year.... but with everything that has happened, Marcus Rashford is winning this years SPOTY by a country mile!!". I think Marcus Rashford will win SPOTY by a country mile as you put it.However based on pure sport for me it’s between Lewis Hamilton and Ronnie O’Sullivan | |||
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"Fangio won 47% of the races he started. He won the championship with four different constructors. Ascari had a win ratio of 40%. Hamilton has a win ratio of 35%, Schumacher 27%. Yet they have both won seven drivers' championships, so which driver won them against more competitive drivers/teams? Hamilton has won more races from pole than Schumacher, but Schumacher won more races from second than Hamilton, and more than twice as many as Hamilton from third place, and more from fourth place. So many variables and statistics you can argue for your favourite driver being better/worse than Hamilton. " You can’t. They are all simply fantastic (At raging) in their own right. But you have to remember that everyone they are up against at that time are open to all the same software & hardware. So at this time there is no better driver than Ham. At Shumacer’s time, there was no better driver than him, and so on. | |||
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". However I do appreciate the skills and greatness of Lewis Hamilton and what he’s achieved. But the enjoyment of F1 left me a long time ago. Due to that I’ve never really seen or enjoyed his racing but expect him to get Sports Personality of the Year in a few weeks time
if it was on pure sport then yes Hamilton would probably win SPOTY this year.... but with everything that has happened, Marcus Rashford is winning this years SPOTY by a country mile!!"I really hope Marcus Rashford wins SPOTY this year. | |||
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"I like "this" lewis hamilton, in that he has found his voice... and he is using his platform (and his money) for good......" | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down "exactly and the same people knocking him probably cheered on the likes of tin henman and think Gazza are national heroes btw gazza isn’t even the best player to come out of the northeast who cares what Hamilton is like he’s obviously at the top of his game and will probably be the best ever isn’t it a refreshing change to say we have a genuine great | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down exactly and the same people knocking him probably cheered on the likes of tin henman and think Gazza are national heroes btw gazza isn’t even the best player to come out of the northeast who cares what Hamilton is like he’s obviously at the top of his game and will probably be the best ever isn’t it a refreshing change to say we have a genuine great " | |||
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". However I do appreciate the skills and greatness of Lewis Hamilton and what he’s achieved. But the enjoyment of F1 left me a long time ago. Due to that I’ve never really seen or enjoyed his racing but expect him to get Sports Personality of the Year in a few weeks time
if it was on pure sport then yes Hamilton would probably win SPOTY this year.... but with everything that has happened, Marcus Rashford is winning this years SPOTY by a country mile!!. I think Marcus Rashford will win SPOTY by a country mile as you put it.However based on pure sport for me it’s between Lewis Hamilton and Ronnie O’Sullivan "Actually never thought about Rashford when I suggested he’d win it. I’m in agreement I hope Rashford wins, he’d get my vote and money in the bookies | |||
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"Hes a complete legend and showed off his talents in true style today... Lapped his teammate and won a race against all the odds as the Mercedes really didn't seem to work on this slippery track.... He got into is zone and made it work... Was highly impressive! I love how he is using his platform right now too.... proper class act. " | |||
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"7 time world champion and looks like he's not slowing down. What a drive, living legend. " Incredible achievement, hopefully 8 next | |||
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"Fantasic driver. His talent is matched only by his ego and capacity to be a massive bellend." Can you give examples? | |||
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"Fangio won 47% of the races he started. He won the championship with four different constructors. Ascari had a win ratio of 40%. Hamilton has a win ratio of 35%, Schumacher 27%. Yet they have both won seven drivers' championships, so which driver won them against more competitive drivers/teams? Hamilton has won more races from pole than Schumacher, but Schumacher won more races from second than Hamilton, and more than twice as many as Hamilton from third place, and more from fourth place. So many variables and statistics you can argue for your favourite driver being better/worse than Hamilton. " You can lay similar on Agostini. His early wins for MV he was on a new fangled multi cylinder & many others were still using British Single Cylinder bikes. As soon as Yamaha started showing the TZ 2stroke multi’s he jumped ship & went with them. His closest competitor was usually his team mate as he was the only one on competitive machinery. Sound familiar? S | |||
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"Whatever people think of his personality is irrelevant when talking of his sporting achievement's. Yes he's currently in the best team, but the best drivers float to the top. You don't see players like Messi playing for Cambridge either, and if he did he'd probably not look at good as he does as like football, F1 is a team sport. I don't remember the other F1 greats winning the majority of their races and titles in shit teams either. Lewis has bested all teammates when reliability hasn't interfered and was up there with Alonso as a rookie. Since then I'd say he's become the most complete driver the sport we has ever seen. He's still got tons of raw pace, possibly still as quick as Leclerc or Max, and Micheal or Senna, if not then close. But his race craft, strategy, car management, tyre management, ability to drive better in poor conditions, fairness on track, motivation, mental approach, and consistency are what probably put him over the other greats. He has almost no weaknesses and performs every weekend. I have no idea what he's really like as a person, I've never met him. But the stats don't lie, and if it's was all the car the teammates would beat him and as someone else said, Merc would just replace him with a cheaper talented kid from F2. Today he proved how rounded he's become as a driver, as well is being incredibly fast. Congratulations too him for his sporting achievement's. I'll leave those who know him to judge his character. Xx" Thank you. You have said it all | |||
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"Fangio won 47% of the races he started. He won the championship with four different constructors. Ascari had a win ratio of 40%. Hamilton has a win ratio of 35%, Schumacher 27%. Yet they have both won seven drivers' championships, so which driver won them against more competitive drivers/teams? Hamilton has won more races from pole than Schumacher, but Schumacher won more races from second than Hamilton, and more than twice as many as Hamilton from third place, and more from fourth place. So many variables and statistics you can argue for your favourite driver being better/worse than Hamilton. You can lay similar on Agostini. His early wins for MV he was on a new fangled multi cylinder & many others were still using British Single Cylinder bikes. As soon as Yamaha started showing the TZ 2stroke multi’s he jumped ship & went with them. His closest competitor was usually his team mate as he was the only one on competitive machinery. Sound familiar? S" Now you are talking, Ago is/was a legend, yes he had good kit but you still have to ride it! the bike racers always seem to have a personality that the car guys lack. Ago, sheen, roberts, Rossi, Marquez to name but a few! | |||
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"Whatever people think of his personality is irrelevant when talking of his sporting achievement's. Yes he's currently in the best team, but the best drivers float to the top. You don't see players like Messi playing for Cambridge either, and if he did he'd probably not look at good as he does as like football, F1 is a team sport. I don't remember the other F1 greats winning the majority of their races and titles in shit teams either. Lewis has bested all teammates when reliability hasn't interfered and was up there with Alonso as a rookie. Since then I'd say he's become the most complete driver the sport we has ever seen. He's still got tons of raw pace, possibly still as quick as Leclerc or Max, and Micheal or Senna, if not then close. But his race craft, strategy, car management, tyre management, ability to drive better in poor conditions, fairness on track, motivation, mental approach, and consistency are what probably put him over the other greats. He has almost no weaknesses and performs every weekend. I have no idea what he's really like as a person, I've never met him. But the stats don't lie, and if it's was all the car the teammates would beat him and as someone else said, Merc would just replace him with a cheaper talented kid from F2. Today he proved how rounded he's become as a driver, as well is being incredibly fast. Congratulations too him for his sporting achievement's. I'll leave those who know him to judge his character. Xx" Nicely put | |||
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"Ah the British disease. See someone being successful in their chosen field and try to knock them down
Not at all! I can appreciate plenty of British sportsmen at the top of their game. Unfortunately, he's not one of them. He comes across as money grabbing twat, I'm afraid.
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" Who's money did he grab lol Ours. Tax exile He still pays more tax than 99% of the population
Thank you
But not what he SHOULD pay
Referring to your earlier post Hill, Hunt & Mansell were not resident in the UK for tax purposes during their F1 careers."thank you..... is living in the isle of man, or in the channel islands any different to living in monaco? interesting that hamilton is knocked for not paying tax and living in monaco.... but jenson button lives in monaco.... and david coulthard lives in monaco | |||
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"I personally would like to see him in less clothes more often.
Well done though Lewis!
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"He seems to have upset quite a few of those opposed to the BLM movement recently. I don't tend to watch much F1. I find Moto GP, Superbikes and TT racing more exciting. "TT now we're talking | |||
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"James Hunt lived in the UK all his life " He lived in Spain during the 70's as a tax exile. | |||
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"Isn't it his car that's great not really him? I get he is a good driver but compared to drivers in the past he is hardly their equal just one of the better drivers of the moment. " But that's always the case when comparing sports people across generations. The technology has certainly improved but so has the mental acuity and physical fitness. That's not to say though that Hamilton would or wouldn't have been a winner in the 70's/80's. | |||
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"Very well done on winning his championships but I don't think he is a great driver yes he has won lots of races but it does seem to me like it's all the car doing the work not him pushing buttons on every corner to make the car faster in my eyes doesn't make you a great driver just someone that's good at playing Computer games. " “Pushing buttons on every corner to make the car faster “ Your knowledge astounds me. | |||
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"James Hunt lived in the UK all his life He lived in Spain during the 70's as a tax exile." Damon Hill, Nigel Mansel, Jackie Stewart... also all moved abroad to reduce their taxes | |||
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"Great car really great car and above average driver but he is never a great driver or ever will be. " Clearly you don't understand or know a thing about F1 | |||
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"Awesome racing driver, total throbber as a person. Right then can you tell us what he needs to do to be a good person in everyone's eyes that says he's not " I’ve just said he’s an awesome driver, I just don’t like his persona. Just like Danny Pedrosa, awesome rider but I don’t like him either. It’s just my opinion, I’m assuming that’s not acceptable? | |||
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"Very well done on winning his championships but I don't think he is a great driver yes he has won lots of races but it does seem to me like it's all the car doing the work not him pushing buttons on every corner to make the car faster in my eyes doesn't make you a great driver just someone that's good at playing Computer games. " This is shocking. You think driving an F1 car is about pushing buttons . | |||
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"I've never understood how cars driving at 200mph can be the dullest thing u can watch on TV (let alone the people who drive them)...but it is. "You are special | |||
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"James Hunt lived in the UK all his life He lived in Spain during the 70's as a tax exile. Damon Hill, Nigel Mansel, Jackie Stewart... also all moved abroad to reduce their taxes" I mentioned that in an earlier post, the one I responded to here specifically referenced Hunt | |||
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"I've never understood how cars driving at 200mph can be the dullest thing u can watch on TV (let alone the people who drive them)...but it is. "When is the last time you watched it? Today's race was like watching 200mph Bambi on ice, the whole season has been filled with bonkers races... it's not just about the bloke who wins, there's competition from front to back of the field. Cal | |||
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"James Hunt lived in the UK all his life He lived in Spain during the 70's as a tax exile. Damon Hill, Nigel Mansel, Jackie Stewart... also all moved abroad to reduce their taxes" It seems like a lot of people don't like the fact its now Lewis who's doing it. It makes one think that its got to do with his race and no I'm not pulling the race card but it is what it is | |||
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"I've never understood how cars driving at 200mph can be the dullest thing u can watch on TV (let alone the people who drive them)...but it is.
When is the last time you watched it? Today's race was like watching 200mph Bambi on ice, the whole season has been filled with bonkers races... it's not just about the bloke who wins, there's competition from front to back of the field.
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"Not taking away from his achievements, but just how much is that down to his mercedes team being undeniably a step above everyone else. Long gone are the days were a truly talented driver could still shone and overcome his team's / car shortcomings, but no longer. You only have to be a competent driver to have a good shot at being champion if you have the best car. It's one of the reasons F1 no longer captivates me. Too boring...too predictable...way too expensive." F1 one keeps evolving like every other sport. Mercedes are a great but but the decisions that Lewis makes and the was he drives is what makes him the greatest of this era | |||
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"He might have th fastest car, but you've still got to have skill to drive it, and looking at the state of his tyres at the end of the race today he's certainly got that." | |||
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"I used to watch F1 back when Senna, Prost, Mansell and a young Damon Hill were racing. Got excited again with Schumacher but due to being a biker turned to Motorcycle instead. A lot more overtaking, crashes and last minute leads taken on the last lap. Plus I was a lot more emphatic to a guy on two wheels racing through wind and rain, than a guy on four. However I do appreciate the skills and greatness of Lewis Hamilton and what he’s achieved. But the enjoyment of F1 left me a long time ago. Due to that I’ve never really seen or enjoyed his racing but expect him to get Sports Personality of the Year in a few weeks time
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"I used to watch F1 back when Senna, Prost, Mansell and a young Damon Hill were racing. Got excited again with Schumacher but due to being a biker turned to Motorcycle instead. A lot more overtaking, crashes and last minute leads taken on the last lap. Plus I was a lot more emphatic to a guy on two wheels racing through wind and rain, than a guy on four. However I do appreciate the skills and greatness of Lewis Hamilton and what he’s achieved. But the enjoyment of F1 left me a long time ago. Due to that I’ve never really seen or enjoyed his racing but expect him to get Sports Personality of the Year in a few weeks time
Marc Marquez is the the fucking boy!
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"The ignorance of many in this thread is outstanding xx" A forum is for people to give they're opinions, if you think some of them are ignorant feel free to explain. | |||
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"Daaaam the comments tho, just be happy for him. Forget the attitude, ignore whatever you think you know or sense about him. He’s a world champion and represents the United Kingdom. It might take a very long time to see his type from the U.K. again so please appreciate his accomplishments, I have watched him, seeing him drive on numerous times same as other drivers, he’s unique in his own way, so as everyone else should be. " | |||
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"The ignorance of many in this thread is outstanding xx A forum is for people to give they're opinions, if you think some of them are ignorant feel free to explain. Those opinions should be based on facts that can be proven" And what if you just don’t like a person’s personality, that’s an option not fact. | |||
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"The ignorance of many in this thread is outstanding xx A forum is for people to give they're opinions, if you think some of them are ignorant feel free to explain. Those opinions should be based on facts that can be proven And what if you just don’t like a person’s personality, that’s an option not fact." Then you can't dispute his great just because you don't like his personality | |||
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"The ignorance of many in this thread is outstanding xx A forum is for people to give they're opinions, if you think some of them are ignorant feel free to explain. Those opinions should be based on facts that can be proven And what if you just don’t like a person’s personality, that’s an option not fact. Then you can't dispute his great just because you don't like his personality " I haven’t, I’ve said he’s good as a driver, I just don’t like his personality. | |||
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"The ignorance of many in this thread is outstanding xx A forum is for people to give they're opinions, if you think some of them are ignorant feel free to explain. I have... Xx" I've not knocked his achievements either as in any sport at the highest end has to have ability, F1 to me is nothing like what it used to be and I believe Hamilton hasn't been the best to promote the sport inspite of his achievements. | |||
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"He just drives a car. There a loads more deserving of greatness He is the best in the world (and arguably the best ever) at what he does. How many people can make that claim Plenty! And all are way more personable than him "Name 5 | |||
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