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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Starts tomorrow. Did he or didn't he? What do you think? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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here we go again  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Who cares. He is an over paid oik kicking a pigs bladder around. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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well we all know he said it.... otherwise sky wouldn't have pixelated it out for the last nine months....
and you wouldn't said that unless it was pointed at someone.... so his defence doesn't really hold much water....
will a jury find him guilty... thats the more interesting question.... or whether the words he used are acceptable in general society... |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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Haven't seen the evidence..... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"here we go again "
Like you, I am a massive Chelsea fan and hope he is innocent. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He's as guilty as hell and he hasn't got a chance" - Captain Darling, Blackadder Goes Fourth, Corporal Punishment
"Pass me that black cap, I'll be needing that." Judge Advocate Colonel Melchet, Blackadder Goes Forth, the same episode, the very next scene.   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Honestly it's not important. If he is guilty why is the trial now? The trial should of been months ago but the fa wouldn't put him on trial because if found guilty he would of missed the euros.
Suarez got his trial months ago and I think that terry got off the hook.
Just my opinion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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He's a racist scum and that's the bottom line. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not really interested in the back stabbing twat! Only the lowert of the low fucks his mates missus!
(then gets upset because the guy didn't shake his hand before a game) haha!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"here we go again
Like you, I am a massive Chelsea fan and hope he is innocent. "
Hoping for an innocent verdict, or that he's actually innocent? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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firework treatment...he will get let off....rascist scum.. |
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John Terry lifts the trophy in his Chelsea kit - that's the quickest he's got his kit on since Wayne Bridge came home early one day. |
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JT has signed up to star in a new TV show. It’s called Other Footballers’ Wives. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"here we go again
Like you, I am a massive Chelsea fan and hope he is innocent.
Hoping for an innocent verdict, or that he's actually innocent?"
That he is innocent. If the evidence proves he did do it, i hope the court throws the book at him. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"JT has signed up to star in a new TV show. It’s called Other Footballers’ Wives. "
And I thought the first gag was bad  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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""He's as guilty as hell and he hasn't got a chance" - Captain Darling, Blackadder Goes Fourth, Corporal Punishment
"Pass me that black cap, I'll be needing that." Judge Advocate Colonel Melchet, Blackadder Goes Forth, the same episode, the very next scene. "
Crucifixion?
Er, no, freedom actually.
What?
Yeah, they said I hadn't done anything and I could go and live on an island somewhere.
Oh I say, that's very nice. Well, off you go then.
No, I'm just pulling your leg, it's crucifixion really. |
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As soon as cps got involved FA put investigation on hold
CPS set date of trial not FA to ensure all witnesses were available and not on euro duty
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its an interesting case as many have him convicted before trial. I have heard a few versions of what was alleged to have been said from the people on the pitch to lip readers and strangely they don't appear to be the same thing. Fascinating that some think we all know what was said when in reality we only think we know as we weren't within ear shot. I hope the trial is conducted in a proper manner and they stick to the facts and not go with what the press think. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hope he gets everything thrown at him, scum |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Its an interesting case as many have him convicted before trial. I have heard a few versions of what was alleged to have been said from the people on the pitch to lip readers and strangely they don't appear to be the same thing. Fascinating that some think we all know what was said when in reality we only think we know as we weren't within ear shot. I hope the trial is conducted in a proper manner and they stick to the facts and not go with what the press think. "
What ever you say deb! I couldn't take my eyes off your chest! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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""He's as guilty as hell and he hasn't got a chance" - Captain Darling, Blackadder Goes Fourth, Corporal Punishment
"Pass me that black cap, I'll be needing that." Judge Advocate Colonel Melchet, Blackadder Goes Forth, the same episode, the very next scene.
Crucifixion?
Er, no, freedom actually.
What?
Yeah, they said I hadn't done anything and I could go and live on an island somewhere.
Oh I say, that's very nice. Well, off you go then.
No, I'm just pulling your leg, it's crucifixion really. "
Life of Brian, my fave film.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"well we all know he said it.... otherwise sky wouldn't have pixelated it out for the last nine months....
and you wouldn't said that unless it was pointed at someone.... so his defence doesn't really hold much water....
will a jury find him guilty... thats the more interesting question.... or whether the words he used are acceptable in general society..."
And there is the issue. Would a jury find him guilty, him being a world class star footballer (lol). And if they do find in innocent, then its a damning _iew of what our society is prepared to tolerate. |
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He changed his story three times, will he change it again for the trial? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Its an interesting case as many have him convicted before trial. I have heard a few versions of what was alleged to have been said from the people on the pitch to lip readers and strangely they don't appear to be the same thing. Fascinating that some think we all know what was said when in reality we only think we know as we weren't within ear shot. I hope the trial is conducted in a proper manner and they stick to the facts and not go with what the press think. "
What ever you say deb! I couldn't take my eyes off your chest! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Having seen Terry on the pitch since the alleged incident involving Ferdinand it is plain to see how he mouths off to anyone on the opposition to gain an edge in the game. He does it without even thinking, whether it's winding someone up or kneeing them in the back, it's win at all costs to John Terry.
Do I think he's an out an out racist? No, I don't. Do I think he said something to Ferdinand that Ferdinand interpreted as a racist comment? Yes, I do. Should the FA/Courts throw the book at him? No, they should punish him accordingly and a three month ban would be justified. If they find him guilty of racist intent, which I don't think there was and I don't think the court will uphold it.
I'm not defending the guy as it's no big secret I can't stand him but the law has to be followed and if it is found that he made a crack but there was no racist intent behind it then he shouldn't be hung for it. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Starts tomorrow. Did he or didn't he? What do you think?"
Dunno. Surely that's why there is a trial. To find out the truth.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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how would they prove it anyway. thought it was antons word against his |
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It's not Antons word against his, the words were directed towards Anton but he did not hear them and was not aware of the comments until he had left the ground
It was not Anton that made the complaint |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Been called a white cxxt 3 times over the years never called the police , don't like jt but for Christ sake does this need to go to court and wasting r money , coppers got more stuff to do by twats saying he called me this and that grow up |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Having seen Terry on the pitch since the alleged incident involving Ferdinand it is plain to see how he mouths off to anyone on the opposition to gain an edge in the game. He does it without even thinking, whether it's winding someone up or kneeing them in the back, it's win at all costs to John Terry.
Do I think he's an out an out racist? No, I don't. Do I think he said something to Ferdinand that Ferdinand interpreted as a racist comment? Yes, I do. Should the FA/Courts throw the book at him? No, they should punish him accordingly and a three month ban would be justified. If they find him guilty of racist intent, which I don't think there was and I don't think the court will uphold it.
I'm not defending the guy as it's no big secret I can't stand him but the law has to be followed and if it is found that he made a crack but there was no racist intent behind it then he shouldn't be hung for it."
Good point well made. I don't think he is a racist either. I do think he is thick and does not think though
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"Having seen Terry on the pitch since the alleged incident involving Ferdinand it is plain to see how he mouths off to anyone on the opposition to gain an edge in the game. He does it without even thinking, whether it's winding someone up or kneeing them in the back, it's win at all costs to John Terry.
Do I think he's an out an out racist? No, I don't. Do I think he said something to Ferdinand that Ferdinand interpreted as a racist comment? Yes, I do. Should the FA/Courts throw the book at him? No, they should punish him accordingly and a three month ban would be justified. If they find him guilty of racist intent, which I don't think there was and I don't think the court will uphold it.
I'm not defending the guy as it's no big secret I can't stand him but the law has to be followed and if it is found that he made a crack but there was no racist intent behind it then he shouldn't be hung for it."
How can you prove or disprove intent ? |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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Is the trial not to establish if he is a racist..
Has he been found guilty before... I don't know a lot about it.
But if he is racist scum... I assume so without the use of the word scum.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Even when he is found guilty he will only get fined £2500 as this is the max fibe he can get! If the fa want to fine him or ban him after the trail thats up to them!! |
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I've watched this over and over....
I heard he said Fkn B Cnt ........
If THIS is the evidence Im not so sure..
His lips just do NOT shape those words.
To me he is saying ... Yeah Yeah I ..... ( then he is obscured by someone passing ) His final words are DEFINITELY fuckin' knob'ead. |
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This one is slower ......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/26/john-terry-anton-ferdinand |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's not Antons word against his, the words were directed towards Anton but he did not hear them and was not aware of the comments until he had left the ground
It was not Anton that made the complaint"
this has been proved time and time again and Anton still states he never heared it and as they have zero evidence against a man who has spent most of his life trying to get rid of racisem in sport why are they waisting public money i think its a case of sour grapes |
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"Even when he is found guilty he will only get fined £2500 as this is the max fibe he can get! If the fa want to fine him or ban him after the trail thats up to them!! "
That may be true, I have no idea personally, but if Terry is found guilty of what he is accused of in court, the net effect will be a lot greater than that as it's unlikely that sponsors will want to be associatted with him, plus it might have some effect on his career even if it is in the tail end of his career now. |
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Where does John Terry come from ?
Not what team. Is he a Southerner.... if so then the vid does fit with those words.
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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whatever happens once the jury have been presented with all the evidence, heard JT, heard the witness statements of people who were actually there, listened to the summing up statements from both sides and the judge..
I know one thing, if you were ever, god forbid, to find yourself in court facing charges with a jury.....
they are more objective than some in these forums.
Not exclusive to just this thread..
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I keep watching the slow vid over and over and over......
Before the remark his taunting like a child ..... he goes ..... ha! Ha! HA! really slowly ..... then he says something that looks like .... u fkn b.. ca......
( I think it's fackin' bland kant.... sort of southernery like ....
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I have to stop watching it now .... I think he said it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have to stop watching it now .... I think he said it."
Congratulations contact the courts they will be thrilled with you and your obvious world recognised lip-reading skills.  |
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By *j_markCouple
over a year ago
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Because this involves an active court case we can't accept comments so closing.
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