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"Is there a fine line between "sexual racism" and preference? Fuzz" That is the preference paradox, where it is a split opinion as it were on the matter. You also need to consider phrasing of what you do and don't find attractive. Is there a need to list what you don't like? Should you open to everyone about which social or cultural groups should talk to you? What is the reason behind the fetish, does that have racial conentations... like I have stated this is meer food for thought on part of a topic that is so strongly spoke about right now.. | |||
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"Is there a fine line between "sexual racism" and preference? Fuzz" I Agree  | |||
"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same?" Is not wanting to have sex with a transexual transphobic? Is only sleeping with blondes brunettes phobic? No these are preferences. WE all discriminate sexually. Especially against ugly people! There is one obvious form of racism in the swinging scene however and that is the fetish to want to see your wife with a black man. The reason guys get off on it is that they see black men as inferior and so find it extra humiliating that they are 'so pathetic' that their wife would want to 'lower herself' to sleeping with a black man instead. | |||
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"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same? Is not wanting to have sex with a transexual transphobic? Is only sleeping with blondes brunettes phobic? No these are preferences. WE all discriminate sexually. Especially against ugly people! There is one obvious form of racism in the swinging scene however and that is the fetish to want to see your wife with a black man. The reason guys get off on it is that they see black men as inferior and so find it extra humiliating that they are 'so pathetic' that their wife would want to 'lower herself' to sleeping with a black man instead." This will end well  | |||
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"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same?" It’s an interesting idea. I occasionally work in Rwanda and attend a few education events around the 1994 the genocide , which was due to Belgian classification of people by ethnicity (Hutu or Tutsi) _ased on fake science. now no one is required to state ethnicity for anything and it’s rude to ask , ethnicity has effectively been abolished , everyone is simply Rwandan. I think it’s a good idea , it’s worked there and brought people together. All classifications and labels are wrong and just create division. | |||
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"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same? It’s an interesting idea. I occasionally work in Rwanda and attend a few education events around the 1994 the genocide , which was due to Belgian classification of people by ethnicity (Hutu or Tutsi) _ased on fake science. now no one is required to state ethnicity for anything and it’s rude to ask , ethnicity has effectively been abolished , everyone is simply Rwandan. I think it’s a good idea , it’s worked there and brought people together. All classifications and labels are wrong and just create division. " You know Rwanden is their new ethnicity right? Ethnicity has very little to do with race. It's about cultural and historic inheritence. | |||
"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same?" So reading this its fair to say all men who block other men or say no males are homophobic? | |||
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"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same? So reading this its fair to say all men who block other men or say no males are homophobic? " Or maybe just don’t find the male form sexually appealing | |||
"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same? So reading this its fair to say all men who block other men or say no males are homophobic? " Absolutely. | |||
"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same?" Absolutely nailed on prejudice. And a preference too. And so what? People are pretty much all judgemental and prejudiced (some may not be and super dooper for them). Disabled people, fat people, small people,old people, young people, blacks, whites, browns, bald people... And the list goes on. People have prejudices... Nobody can tell anyone who they should prefer to spend time with. | |||
"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same? It’s an interesting idea. I occasionally work in Rwanda and attend a few education events around the 1994 the genocide , which was due to Belgian classification of people by ethnicity (Hutu or Tutsi) _ased on fake science. now no one is required to state ethnicity for anything and it’s rude to ask , ethnicity has effectively been abolished , everyone is simply Rwandan. I think it’s a good idea , it’s worked there and brought people together. All classifications and labels are wrong and just create division. "  just imagining guys with machetes chopping people down left right and centre shouting, "its not my fault, blame the Belgians!"  | |||
"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same? Absolutely nailed on prejudice. And a preference too. And so what? People are pretty much all judgemental and prejudiced (some may not be and super dooper for them). Disabled people, fat people, small people,old people, young people, blacks, whites, browns, bald people... And the list goes on. People have prejudices... Nobody can tell anyone who they should prefer to spend time with. " Exactly. It seems to be that the OP has been sucked in by intersectional post modernism. Anti human bullshit. We all discriminate sexually why should race be considered any different to looks? Hair colour or wealth? | |||
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"Yes. We should all sleep with everyone no matter of height, gender, ethnicity, personality, hair colour, size, so as not to fucking offend anyone. Get real. Threads like this get on my lils. " And people with no teeth too! Otherwise it’s toothist! | |||
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"Yes. We should all sleep with everyone no matter of height, gender, ethnicity, personality, hair colour, size, so as not to fucking offend anyone. Get real. Threads like this get on my lils. "  | |||
"Yes. We should all sleep with everyone no matter of height, gender, ethnicity, personality, hair colour, size, so as not to fucking offend anyone. Get real. Threads like this get on my lils. " | |||
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"Yes. We should all sleep with everyone no matter of height, gender, ethnicity, personality, hair colour, size, so as not to fucking offend anyone. Get real. Threads like this get on my lils. " Best comment i've read in a long, long time | |||
"This topic was posted in the name of debate and after some very colourful and some what questionable pvt messages from people who describe themselves as proffesionals. I will be asking a moderator to remove it. I could talk in depth for hours on mamy topics but the anger from people who wouldn't say these things in person is not worth it..." Never understood why people feel the need to private message abuse. If it’s a forum thread say what you want to say on the thread. Ignore block and report | |||
"This topic was posted in the name of debate and after some very colourful and some what questionable pvt messages from people who describe themselves as proffesionals. I will be asking a moderator to remove it. I could talk in depth for hours on mamy topics but the anger from people who wouldn't say these things in person is not worth it... Never understood why people feel the need to private message abuse. If it’s a forum thread say what you want to say on the thread. Ignore block and report "cos they are pussys | |||
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"Yes. We should all sleep with everyone no matter of height, gender, ethnicity, personality, hair colour, size, so as not to fucking offend anyone. Get real. Threads like this get on my lils. And people with no teeth too! Otherwise it’s toothist!" Hey don’t knock a toothless bj | |||
"This topic was posted in the name of debate and after some very colourful and some what questionable pvt messages from people who describe themselves as proffesionals. I will be asking a moderator to remove it. I could talk in depth for hours on mamy topics but the anger from people who wouldn't say these things in person is not worth it... Never understood why people feel the need to private message abuse. If it’s a forum thread say what you want to say on the thread. Ignore block and report "They ain’t got the balls to do it on the forum. Other users would see there true colours then. | |||
"This topic was posted in the name of debate and after some very colourful and some what questionable pvt messages from people who describe themselves as proffesionals. I will be asking a moderator to remove it. I could talk in depth for hours on mamy topics but the anger from people who wouldn't say these things in person is not worth it..." I don't see why the thread should be pulled just because of that. That kinda thing happens all the time. | |||
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"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist "It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days. | |||
"Also, what is it with straight men who won't consider relationships with transwomen, only cis-women? Surely this is transphobic? And don't even get me started on men who are happy to fuck bbw, then go back home to their leggy blond trophy wife! The sooner we are all issued our government sanctioned life partners the better! " That would be great.. Can I have a blonde one that doesn't mind cooking please | |||
"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist
It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days. "How? | |||
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"Also, what is it with straight men who won't consider relationships with transwomen, only cis-women? Surely this is transphobic? And don't even get me started on men who are happy to fuck bbw, then go back home to their leggy blond trophy wife! The sooner we are all issued our government sanctioned life partners the better! That would be great.. Can I have a blonde one that doesn't mind cooking please " Hair colour will be banned, as will historic gender interests such as cooking or fixing the plumbing. | |||
"Your description of "sexual racism" cannot by definition be racism at all. Racism is a pre-prejudice against an ethnicity resulting in treatment different to someone not of that race. Therefore unless you really will have sex with everybody unless they are of that race then how are you treating people of colour differently to caucasian people you also don't have sex with? Anybody with a decent moral compass and some brain cells knows exactly what racism is and what sexual attraction is and the latter is nothing to do with the former. As many have pointed out already but jus to spell it out: If you don't have sex with OAPs because they don't turn you on is that ageist? If you're a man and don't have sex with other men because you're heterosexual does that make you homophobic? The fact the OP even wants to debate these matter I find assinine in the extreme. Stop making everything about race and you'll end quite a lot of racism right there. #RantOver" Spot on. Especially that last paragraph | |||
It's not subconscious - I consciously find a lot of people unattractive or just twats...I will chat to or engage in sexual relations with those that I find appealing, regardless of race/size/sexual orientation etc etc | |||
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"It's a preference like anything else. My body my rules.. I'll fuck who I want.. If I don't like Mexican men or new Zealanders, Thats my preference. If hubby wants to stick his cock in a straight guy would that guy be "bi-ist" because he doesn't want to? No.. Because his preference is not to meet men " Lol. Being Mexican has only worked to my advantage here...  | |||
"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same? It’s an interesting idea. I occasionally work in Rwanda and attend a few education events around the 1994 the genocide , which was due to Belgian classification of people by ethnicity (Hutu or Tutsi) _ased on fake science. now no one is required to state ethnicity for anything and it’s rude to ask , ethnicity has effectively been abolished , everyone is simply Rwandan. I think it’s a good idea , it’s worked there and brought people together. All classifications and labels are wrong and just create division. just imagining guys with machetes chopping people down left right and centre shouting, "its not my fault, blame the Belgians!" "why the hell was my first thought Stuart Hall on its a knockout | |||
"Yes. We should all sleep with everyone no matter of height, gender, ethnicity, personality, hair colour, size, so as not to fucking offend anyone. Get real. Threads like this get on my lils. " Obviously you're entitled to your view / feelings. Same time, I'm sure you relate to various forms of objectification. When you are routinely sexually objectified on the basis of your race, it can be particularly jarring. I personally, don't f*CK with people who have an obsessive preference for black men for example. I find it dehumanising. Similar if someone has on there profile "no Asians or whites", I equally won't mess with them. Or, if you're Asian and seeing "no Asians" on lots of profiles, it's very understandable you'd feel a particular way about that. So I think some find it a jarring topic but for others, it's not about complaining but having open conversations about it. We all have varied experiences in this sexual world and race is a big one. | |||
"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same? Is not wanting to have sex with a transexual transphobic? Is only sleeping with blondes brunettes phobic? No these are preferences. WE all discriminate sexually. Especially against ugly people! There is one obvious form of racism in the swinging scene however and that is the fetish to want to see your wife with a black man. The reason guys get off on it is that they see black men as inferior and so find it extra humiliating that they are 'so pathetic' that their wife would want to 'lower herself' to sleeping with a black man instead." I'd say that's something of an oversimplification. Many people enjoy slightly taboo sex as they find it more exciting, which reflects societal norms more than it does personal views (large age-gap relationships might also be an example, as indeed some bisexual acts). Is it racist to want to have sex with a black guy because you know your parents wouldn't approve, and you find that exciting? | |||
"This topic was posted in the name of debate and after some very colourful and some what questionable pvt messages from people who describe themselves as proffesionals. I will be asking a moderator to remove it. I could talk in depth for hours on mamy topics but the anger from people who wouldn't say these things in person is not worth it..." Sorry to hear that OP. | |||
"It's a preference like anything else. My body my rules.. I'll fuck who I want.. If I don't like Mexican men or new Zealanders, Thats my preference. If hubby wants to stick his cock in a straight guy would that guy be "bi-ist" because he doesn't want to? No.. Because his preference is not to meet men Lol. Being Mexican has only worked to my advantage here... "Note I said... If...and... Men.... | |||
"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist
It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days.
How?"Which aspect are you questioning? | |||
"Yes. We should all sleep with everyone no matter of height, gender, ethnicity, personality, hair colour, size, so as not to fucking offend anyone. Get real. Threads like this get on my lils. Obviously you're entitled to your view / feelings. Same time, I'm sure you relate to various forms of objectification. When you are routinely sexually objectified on the basis of your race, it can be particularly jarring. I personally, don't f*CK with people who have an obsessive preference for black men for example. I find it dehumanising. Similar if someone has on there profile "no Asians or whites", I equally won't mess with them. Or, if you're Asian and seeing "no Asians" on lots of profiles, it's very understandable you'd feel a particular way about that. So I think some find it a jarring topic but for others, it's not about complaining but having open conversations about it. We all have varied experiences in this sexual world and race is a big one. " This ... open conversations | |||
"For me, racism starts when associating a certain trait or characteristic to a person _ased on their race. For example if I held a stereotype (I do NOT believe these) "white men are trustworthy", "black women are sexy" and "Asian people are more likely to have certain fetishes". It does not matter what I associate with a group of people, good or bad traits, preferable or not, the moment I generalise and stereotype... I am racist. Once we stop generalsing and stereotyping we are on our way to eliminate sexism, racism etc. " So if a woman wanted to meet an Asian man because she believed that Asian men respected women more than other races, were physically stronger and usually better hung, she shouldn't meet them because she's racist? | |||
"Yes. We should all sleep with everyone no matter of height, gender, ethnicity, personality, hair colour, size, so as not to fucking offend anyone. Get real. Threads like this get on my lils. Obviously you're entitled to your view / feelings. Same time, I'm sure you relate to various forms of objectification. When you are routinely sexually objectified on the basis of your race, it can be particularly jarring. I personally, don't f*CK with people who have an obsessive preference for black men for example. I find it dehumanising. Similar if someone has on there profile "no Asians or whites", I equally won't mess with them. Or, if you're Asian and seeing "no Asians" on lots of profiles, it's very understandable you'd feel a particular way about that. So I think some find it a jarring topic but for others, it's not about complaining but having open conversations about it. We all have varied experiences in this sexual world and race is a big one. " I actually agree with you. As I’ve said before I would have no interest in anyone who feels the need to state “no Asians/no black men/no white men/BBC only/White men only. I don’t see a need to state that on a profile and it would be an instant block for me. However preference is preference and I don’t tie sexual preference with racism or any kind of “ism” for that matter. | |||
"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist
It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days.
How?
Which aspect are you questioning? "You only listed one, "hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days." How? How do women in 2020 correlate attraction to black guys with slavery? | |||
"For me, racism starts when associating a certain trait or characteristic to a person _ased on their race. For example if I held a stereotype (I do NOT believe these) "white men are trustworthy", "black women are sexy" and "Asian people are more likely to have certain fetishes". It does not matter what I associate with a group of people, good or bad traits, preferable or not, the moment I generalise and stereotype... I am racist. Once we stop generalsing and stereotyping we are on our way to eliminate sexism, racism etc. So if a woman wanted to meet an Asian man because she believed that Asian men respected women more than other races, were physically stronger and usually better hung, she shouldn't meet them because she's racist?" Forgetting the moral (right or wrong) aspect to it. It is a racial bias because you are judging that person on the basis of their race. Even if that judgment is positive it is a racial bias. Now, is all racism, racial bias? That's a far more complicated conversation. All racial bias by nature does overlook the person to some degree and see race. Everyone does it to varying degrees in lots of different ways. | |||
"For me, racism starts when associating a certain trait or characteristic to a person _ased on their race. For example if I held a stereotype (I do NOT believe these) "white men are trustworthy", "black women are sexy" and "Asian people are more likely to have certain fetishes". It does not matter what I associate with a group of people, good or bad traits, preferable or not, the moment I generalise and stereotype... I am racist. Once we stop generalsing and stereotyping we are on our way to eliminate sexism, racism etc. So if a woman wanted to meet an Asian man because she believed that Asian men respected women more than other races, were physically stronger and usually better hung, she shouldn't meet them because she's racist?" No, that is NOT what I said. It is really crucial that we listen/ read carefully as this is a very sensitive topic. Anybody can meet whoever they choose - however it is not ok to make statements that "all Asian/ Black/ White... etc" are associated with a certain trait. Because 1. they are not.. not everybody in a group shares the same traits but, more importantly, this is only a step away from associating bad traits including criminal behaviour with a group. | |||
"Also, what is it with straight men who won't consider relationships with transwomen, only cis-women? Surely this is transphobic? And don't even get me started on men who are happy to fuck bbw, then go back home to their leggy blond trophy wife! The sooner we are all issued our government sanctioned life partners the better! That would be great.. Can I have a blonde one that doesn't mind cooking please Hair colour will be banned, as will historic gender interests such as cooking or fixing the plumbing. " Can I bring her/him/them back if I don't like her / him / them.? My plumbing does need fixing. | |||
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"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist
It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days.
How?
Which aspect are you questioning?
You only listed one,
"hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days."
How? How do women in 2020 correlate attraction to black guys with slavery? "Where does the notion of black men being very sexual arise from? It stems back in the days of slavery, it was a way of presenting black males as predatory and something white women should be protected from... This often had the opposite effect. However as black men were property... If a white women wanted to sleep with a black man, she could, forcibly and if caught, he would be killed as he's the brute etc. However, this centred and developed the myth of black men being hypersexual individuals. There was also historical myths spread about black behaviour in Africa and the concerns of black men integrating into white society. The idea at the time, you had to keep presenting enslaved individuals as subhuman to justify it to the public. Anyway, these ideas are only a few hundred years old and have morphed over the years but the same ideas are present. Black men = beastly, sexual prowess, predarorial, hypersexual and so forth. This is both internalised by black boys/men and wider society, to varying degrees. Typing on my phone so excuse any areas. Quite a few sociological and psychological studies on it. It's an area of focus of mine in my non-fab life. | |||
"For me, racism starts when associating a certain trait or characteristic to a person _ased on their race. For example if I held a stereotype (I do NOT believe these) "white men are trustworthy", "black women are sexy" and "Asian people are more likely to have certain fetishes". It does not matter what I associate with a group of people, good or bad traits, preferable or not, the moment I generalise and stereotype... I am racist. Once we stop generalsing and stereotyping we are on our way to eliminate sexism, racism etc. So if a woman wanted to meet an Asian man because she believed that Asian men respected women more than other races, were physically stronger and usually better hung, she shouldn't meet them because she's racist? Forgetting the moral (right or wrong) aspect to it. It is a racial bias because you are judging that person on the basis of their race. Even if that judgment is positive it is a racial bias. Now, is all racism, racial bias? That's a far more complicated conversation. All racial bias by nature does overlook the person to some degree and see race. Everyone does it to varying degrees in lots of different ways. " So do you consider career opportunities aimed only at certain ethnicities racist also? | |||
"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist
It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days.
How?
Which aspect are you questioning?
You only listed one,
"hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days."
How? How do women in 2020 correlate attraction to black guys with slavery? "Also, it's not restricted to women. It's something for men and women. | |||
"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist
It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days.
How?
Which aspect are you questioning?
You only listed one,
"hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days."
How? How do women in 2020 correlate attraction to black guys with slavery?
Where does the notion of black men being very sexual arise from? It stems back in the days of slavery, it was a way of presenting black males as predatory and something white women should be protected from... This often had the opposite effect. However as black men were property... If a white women wanted to sleep with a black man, she could, forcibly and if caught, he would be killed as he's the brute etc. However, this centred and developed the myth of black men being hypersexual individuals. There was also historical myths spread about black behaviour in Africa and the concerns of black men integrating into white society. The idea at the time, you had to keep presenting enslaved individuals as subhuman to justify it to the public.
Anyway, these ideas are only a few hundred years old and have morphed over the years but the same ideas are present. Black men = beastly, sexual prowess, predarorial, hypersexual and so forth. This is both internalised by black boys/men and wider society, to varying degrees.
Typing on my phone so excuse any areas. Quite a few sociological and psychological studies on it. It's an area of focus of mine in my non-fab life. "So the teaching about slavery in our schools in the past 50 years or so is responsible for white women thinking black guys are sexy? | |||
"Also, what is it with straight men who won't consider relationships with transwomen, only cis-women? Surely this is transphobic? And don't even get me started on men who are happy to fuck bbw, then go back home to their leggy blond trophy wife! The sooner we are all issued our government sanctioned life partners the better! That would be great.. Can I have a blonde one that doesn't mind cooking please Hair colour will be banned, as will historic gender interests such as cooking or fixing the plumbing. Can I bring her/him/them back if I don't like her / him / them.? My plumbing does need fixing. " No, to have any kind of positive or negative feelings towards someone is by its very nature offensive to someone. | |||
"For me, racism starts when associating a certain trait or characteristic to a person _ased on their race. For example if I held a stereotype (I do NOT believe these) "white men are trustworthy", "black women are sexy" and "Asian people are more likely to have certain fetishes". It does not matter what I associate with a group of people, good or bad traits, preferable or not, the moment I generalise and stereotype... I am racist. Once we stop generalsing and stereotyping we are on our way to eliminate sexism, racism etc. So if a woman wanted to meet an Asian man because she believed that Asian men respected women more than other races, were physically stronger and usually better hung, she shouldn't meet them because she's racist? Forgetting the moral (right or wrong) aspect to it. It is a racial bias because you are judging that person on the basis of their race. Even if that judgment is positive it is a racial bias. Now, is all racism, racial bias? That's a far more complicated conversation. All racial bias by nature does overlook the person to some degree and see race. Everyone does it to varying degrees in lots of different ways. So do you consider career opportunities aimed only at certain ethnicities racist also? " They are racially motivated, like I said racial bias and racism aren't necessarily the same. Similarly, racially driven initiatives aren't necessarily racist. For example, stop and search targets black boys/men at 10x the rate of white boys/men, despite the evidence that both groups self report crimes at similar rates. If, the government did an initiative to correct this focusing on reducing racial bias against black boys; I wouldn't say that's racist. I'd say it's an attempt to counter act racism. | |||
"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist
It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days.
How?
Which aspect are you questioning?
You only listed one,
"hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days."
How? How do women in 2020 correlate attraction to black guys with slavery?
Where does the notion of black men being very sexual arise from? It stems back in the days of slavery, it was a way of presenting black males as predatory and something white women should be protected from... This often had the opposite effect. However as black men were property... If a white women wanted to sleep with a black man, she could, forcibly and if caught, he would be killed as he's the brute etc. However, this centred and developed the myth of black men being hypersexual individuals. There was also historical myths spread about black behaviour in Africa and the concerns of black men integrating into white society. The idea at the time, you had to keep presenting enslaved individuals as subhuman to justify it to the public.
Anyway, these ideas are only a few hundred years old and have morphed over the years but the same ideas are present. Black men = beastly, sexual prowess, predarorial, hypersexual and so forth. This is both internalised by black boys/men and wider society, to varying degrees.
Typing on my phone so excuse any areas. Quite a few sociological and psychological studies on it. It's an area of focus of mine in my non-fab life.
So the teaching about slavery in our schools in the past 50 years or so is responsible for white women thinking black guys are sexy?"Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. | |||
"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist
It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days.
How?
Which aspect are you questioning?
You only listed one,
"hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days."
How? How do women in 2020 correlate attraction to black guys with slavery?
Where does the notion of black men being very sexual arise from? It stems back in the days of slavery, it was a way of presenting black males as predatory and something white women should be protected from... This often had the opposite effect. However as black men were property... If a white women wanted to sleep with a black man, she could, forcibly and if caught, he would be killed as he's the brute etc. However, this centred and developed the myth of black men being hypersexual individuals. There was also historical myths spread about black behaviour in Africa and the concerns of black men integrating into white society. The idea at the time, you had to keep presenting enslaved individuals as subhuman to justify it to the public.
Anyway, these ideas are only a few hundred years old and have morphed over the years but the same ideas are present. Black men = beastly, sexual prowess, predarorial, hypersexual and so forth. This is both internalised by black boys/men and wider society, to varying degrees.
Typing on my phone so excuse any areas. Quite a few sociological and psychological studies on it. It's an area of focus of mine in my non-fab life.
So the teaching about slavery in our schools in the past 50 years or so is responsible for white women thinking black guys are sexy?
Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society.
It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man.
Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. "Where is it ingrained? Where does this idea manifest? | |||
" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. " And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. | |||
" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. " Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ? | |||
" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ?" To be fair Jewish women in Israel are SO hot though! Long black hair, pale skin, shapely bodies  | |||
" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ?" Yes, in my view any stereotyping is inherently a a lie and offensive because it is untrue...not EVERY member of that group shares that trait, but also it gives rise to prejudice. I ll quote an unrelated example : Some time ago three senior judges ruled against the government on a Brexit related issue. Next, the Express had a front page calling these judges "Enemy of the people". Then, a step further, they mentioned that one of them was "EVEN" gay. That kind of journalism, if you can call it that, creates or at least supports the "isms" we have in society. The sexual orientation of a judge had nothing to do with his verdict. Does that make sense? | |||
" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ? To be fair Jewish women in Israel are SO hot though! Long black hair, pale skin, shapely bodies "Sounds good... maybe one of them could play Cleopatra. | |||
"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist
It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days.
How?
Which aspect are you questioning?
You only listed one,
"hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days."
How? How do women in 2020 correlate attraction to black guys with slavery?
Where does the notion of black men being very sexual arise from? It stems back in the days of slavery, it was a way of presenting black males as predatory and something white women should be protected from... This often had the opposite effect. However as black men were property... If a white women wanted to sleep with a black man, she could, forcibly and if caught, he would be killed as he's the brute etc. However, this centred and developed the myth of black men being hypersexual individuals. There was also historical myths spread about black behaviour in Africa and the concerns of black men integrating into white society. The idea at the time, you had to keep presenting enslaved individuals as subhuman to justify it to the public.
Anyway, these ideas are only a few hundred years old and have morphed over the years but the same ideas are present. Black men = beastly, sexual prowess, predarorial, hypersexual and so forth. This is both internalised by black boys/men and wider society, to varying degrees.
Typing on my phone so excuse any areas. Quite a few sociological and psychological studies on it. It's an area of focus of mine in my non-fab life.
So the teaching about slavery in our schools in the past 50 years or so is responsible for white women thinking black guys are sexy?
Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society.
It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man.
Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation.
Where is it ingrained? Where does this idea manifest?"Society and culture is a culmination of many things. Racial biases are just one aspect of a myriad of many biases that we all have. Where it began? You'd have to go back to slavery days, good book on this is "the man not" by Dr Tommy Curry. In short, it was public narrative at the time. Black men = beastly, hyperseuxal brutes. Today? An example would be look at how black men are presented in porn, or in the media, or sexualised in interviews, workplaces, etc. Part of the issue is, we are often blind to things that don't effect us. Until women shared and importantly, I was willing to listen (which took time tbh) about their experiences with sexual harassment and men. I downplayed the issues and I couldn't see how widespread it was and still is in our society. Including how media reinforces elements of it. | |||
" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ?Yes, in my view any stereotyping is inherently a a lie and offensive because it is untrue...not EVERY member of that group shares that trait, but also it gives rise to prejudice. I ll quote an unrelated example : Some time ago three senior judges ruled against the government on a Brexit related issue. Next, the Express had a front page calling these judges "Enemy of the people". Then, a step further, they mentioned that one of them was "EVEN" gay. That kind of journalism, if you can call it that, creates or at least supports the "isms" we have in society. The sexual orientation of a judge had nothing to do with his verdict. Does that make sense?" Thought so. Strange how UKBLM are so happy with their antisemitism. Shame. | |||
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" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ?Yes, in my view any stereotyping is inherently a a lie and offensive because it is untrue...not EVERY member of that group shares that trait, but also it gives rise to prejudice. I ll quote an unrelated example : Some time ago three senior judges ruled against the government on a Brexit related issue. Next, the Express had a front page calling these judges "Enemy of the people". Then, a step further, they mentioned that one of them was "EVEN" gay. That kind of journalism, if you can call it that, creates or at least supports the "isms" we have in society. The sexual orientation of a judge had nothing to do with his verdict. Does that make sense?" Entirely agree | |||
"For me, racism starts when associating a certain trait or characteristic to a person _ased on their race. For example if I held a stereotype (I do NOT believe these) "white men are trustworthy", "black women are sexy" and "Asian people are more likely to have certain fetishes". It does not matter what I associate with a group of people, good or bad traits, preferable or not, the moment I generalise and stereotype... I am racist. Once we stop generalsing and stereotyping we are on our way to eliminate sexism, racism etc. So if a woman wanted to meet an Asian man because she believed that Asian men respected women more than other races, were physically stronger and usually better hung, she shouldn't meet them because she's racist? Forgetting the moral (right or wrong) aspect to it. It is a racial bias because you are judging that person on the basis of their race. Even if that judgment is positive it is a racial bias. Now, is all racism, racial bias? That's a far more complicated conversation. All racial bias by nature does overlook the person to some degree and see race. Everyone does it to varying degrees in lots of different ways. So do you consider career opportunities aimed only at certain ethnicities racist also? They are racially motivated, like I said racial bias and racism aren't necessarily the same. Similarly, racially driven initiatives aren't necessarily racist. For example, stop and search targets black boys/men at 10x the rate of white boys/men, despite the evidence that both groups self report crimes at similar rates. If, the government did an initiative to correct this focusing on reducing racial bias against black boys; I wouldn't say that's racist. I'd say it's an attempt to counter act racism. " So knife crime in London in general is actually usually carried out by 50/50 white people and the victims are 50/50 white, but the police actually target black people in stop and search. That really is out of order! I get it now. I see it out here in the countryside to. Most people arrested during these "county lines" operations are 50/50 white. Yet i dont see many white kids being stopped and searched. | |||
" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ?Yes, in my view any stereotyping is inherently a a lie and offensive because it is untrue...not EVERY member of that group shares that trait, but also it gives rise to prejudice. I ll quote an unrelated example : Some time ago three senior judges ruled against the government on a Brexit related issue. Next, the Express had a front page calling these judges "Enemy of the people". Then, a step further, they mentioned that one of them was "EVEN" gay. That kind of journalism, if you can call it that, creates or at least supports the "isms" we have in society. The sexual orientation of a judge had nothing to do with his verdict. Does that make sense? Thought so. Strange how UKBLM are so happy with their antisemitism. Shame. " Just for the record, I do not support a statement that tars every member of BLM with the same brush. There may be some antisemites within the movement, I do not know, but certainly not each and everyone. That is precisely what I am saying. We need to stop unhelpful generalisations and stereotyping. | |||
" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ?Yes, in my view any stereotyping is inherently a a lie and offensive because it is untrue...not EVERY member of that group shares that trait, but also it gives rise to prejudice. I ll quote an unrelated example : Some time ago three senior judges ruled against the government on a Brexit related issue. Next, the Express had a front page calling these judges "Enemy of the people". Then, a step further, they mentioned that one of them was "EVEN" gay. That kind of journalism, if you can call it that, creates or at least supports the "isms" we have in society. The sexual orientation of a judge had nothing to do with his verdict. Does that make sense? Thought so. Strange how UKBLM are so happy with their antisemitism. Shame. Just for the record, I do not support a statement that tars every member of BLM with the same brush. There may be some antisemites within the movement, I do not know, but certainly not each and everyone. That is precisely what I am saying. We need to stop unhelpful generalisations and stereotyping. " It's literally there policy to ignore problems that Jews face. | |||
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" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ?Yes, in my view any stereotyping is inherently a a lie and offensive because it is untrue...not EVERY member of that group shares that trait, but also it gives rise to prejudice. I ll quote an unrelated example : Some time ago three senior judges ruled against the government on a Brexit related issue. Next, the Express had a front page calling these judges "Enemy of the people". Then, a step further, they mentioned that one of them was "EVEN" gay. That kind of journalism, if you can call it that, creates or at least supports the "isms" we have in society. The sexual orientation of a judge had nothing to do with his verdict. Does that make sense? Thought so. Strange how UKBLM are so happy with their antisemitism. Shame. Just for the record, I do not support a statement that tars every member of BLM with the same brush. There may be some antisemites within the movement, I do not know, but certainly not each and everyone. That is precisely what I am saying. We need to stop unhelpful generalisations and stereotyping. It's literally there policy to ignore problems that Jews face. " We can talk about this forever, and I do not want to dismiss your point - all I am saying is that not everybody who supports BLM (me included) has that attitude and belief. | |||
"All lives matter crew love asians and black people" Offensive towards Hispanics? | |||
" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ?Yes, in my view any stereotyping is inherently a a lie and offensive because it is untrue...not EVERY member of that group shares that trait, but also it gives rise to prejudice. I ll quote an unrelated example : Some time ago three senior judges ruled against the government on a Brexit related issue. Next, the Express had a front page calling these judges "Enemy of the people". Then, a step further, they mentioned that one of them was "EVEN" gay. That kind of journalism, if you can call it that, creates or at least supports the "isms" we have in society. The sexual orientation of a judge had nothing to do with his verdict. Does that make sense? Thought so. Strange how UKBLM are so happy with their antisemitism. Shame. Just for the record, I do not support a statement that tars every member of BLM with the same brush. There may be some antisemites within the movement, I do not know, but certainly not each and everyone. That is precisely what I am saying. We need to stop unhelpful generalisations and stereotyping. It's literally there policy to ignore problems that Jews face. We can talk about this forever, and I do not want to dismiss your point - all I am saying is that not everybody who supports BLM (me included) has that attitude and belief. " This is the danger when you don't know what you're supporting. | |||
" Just for the record, I do not support a statement that tars every member of BLM with the same brush. There may be some antisemites within the movement, I do not know, but certainly not each and everyone. That is precisely what I am saying. We need to stop unhelpful generalisations and stereotyping. It's literally there policy to ignore problems that Jews face. We can talk about this forever, and I do not want to dismiss your point - all I am saying is that not everybody who supports BLM (me included) has that attitude and belief. This is the danger when you don't know what you're supporting. " Trust me, I do know what I am supporting. And I will always try and stand my ground against bias of whatever kind and from whatever direction. | |||
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" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ?Yes, in my view any stereotyping is inherently a a lie and offensive because it is untrue...not EVERY member of that group shares that trait, but also it gives rise to prejudice. I ll quote an unrelated example : Some time ago three senior judges ruled against the government on a Brexit related issue. Next, the Express had a front page calling these judges "Enemy of the people". Then, a step further, they mentioned that one of them was "EVEN" gay. That kind of journalism, if you can call it that, creates or at least supports the "isms" we have in society. The sexual orientation of a judge had nothing to do with his verdict. Does that make sense? Thought so. Strange how UKBLM are so happy with their antisemitism. Shame. Just for the record, I do not support a statement that tars every member of BLM with the same brush. There may be some antisemites within the movement, I do not know, but certainly not each and everyone. That is precisely what I am saying. We need to stop unhelpful generalisations and stereotyping. It's literally there policy to ignore problems that Jews face. We can talk about this forever, and I do not want to dismiss your point - all I am saying is that not everybody who supports BLM (me included) has that attitude and belief. This is the danger when you don't know what you're supporting. " Black lives matter is a statement reinforced by a social movement. The organisations are opportunist who grabbed onto that. They didn't and do not define the movement. Most people in those movements, wished they didn't exist because both in the US and UK both organisations are problematic. However, the organisations aren't the movement. | |||
" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ?Yes, in my view any stereotyping is inherently a a lie and offensive because it is untrue...not EVERY member of that group shares that trait, but also it gives rise to prejudice. I ll quote an unrelated example : Some time ago three senior judges ruled against the government on a Brexit related issue. Next, the Express had a front page calling these judges "Enemy of the people". Then, a step further, they mentioned that one of them was "EVEN" gay. That kind of journalism, if you can call it that, creates or at least supports the "isms" we have in society. The sexual orientation of a judge had nothing to do with his verdict. Does that make sense? Thought so. Strange how UKBLM are so happy with their antisemitism. Shame. Just for the record, I do not support a statement that tars every member of BLM with the same brush. There may be some antisemites within the movement, I do not know, but certainly not each and everyone. That is precisely what I am saying. We need to stop unhelpful generalisations and stereotyping. It's literally there policy to ignore problems that Jews face. We can talk about this forever, and I do not want to dismiss your point - all I am saying is that not everybody who supports BLM (me included) has that attitude and belief. This is the danger when you don't know what you're supporting. Black lives matter is a statement reinforced by a social movement. The organisations are opportunist who grabbed onto that. They didn't and do not define the movement. Most people in those movements, wished they didn't exist because both in the US and UK both organisations are problematic. However, the organisations aren't the movement. " If you read, i was careful to mention ukblm. The movement is great, unfortunately ukblm is not. | |||
"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same? Is not wanting to have sex with a transexual transphobic? Is only sleeping with blondes brunettes phobic? No these are preferences. WE all discriminate sexually. Especially against ugly people! There is one obvious form of racism in the swinging scene however and that is the fetish to want to see your wife with a black man. The reason guys get off on it is that they see black men as inferior and so find it extra humiliating that they are 'so pathetic' that their wife would want to 'lower herself' to sleeping with a black man instead." Please tell me your last few lines are a joke...... 
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" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ?Yes, in my view any stereotyping is inherently a a lie and offensive because it is untrue...not EVERY member of that group shares that trait, but also it gives rise to prejudice. I ll quote an unrelated example : Some time ago three senior judges ruled against the government on a Brexit related issue. Next, the Express had a front page calling these judges "Enemy of the people". Then, a step further, they mentioned that one of them was "EVEN" gay. That kind of journalism, if you can call it that, creates or at least supports the "isms" we have in society. The sexual orientation of a judge had nothing to do with his verdict. Does that make sense? Thought so. Strange how UKBLM are so happy with their antisemitism. Shame. Just for the record, I do not support a statement that tars every member of BLM with the same brush. There may be some antisemites within the movement, I do not know, but certainly not each and everyone. That is precisely what I am saying. We need to stop unhelpful generalisations and stereotyping. It's literally there policy to ignore problems that Jews face. We can talk about this forever, and I do not want to dismiss your point - all I am saying is that not everybody who supports BLM (me included) has that attitude and belief. This is the danger when you don't know what you're supporting. Black lives matter is a statement reinforced by a social movement. The organisations are opportunist who grabbed onto that. They didn't and do not define the movement. Most people in those movements, wished they didn't exist because both in the US and UK both organisations are problematic. However, the organisations aren't the movement. If you read, i was careful to mention ukblm. The movement is great, unfortunately ukblm is not. " My apologies, I wrongly inferred a conflation between the two. | |||
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" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ?Yes, in my view any stereotyping is inherently a a lie and offensive because it is untrue...not EVERY member of that group shares that trait, but also it gives rise to prejudice. I ll quote an unrelated example : Some time ago three senior judges ruled against the government on a Brexit related issue. Next, the Express had a front page calling these judges "Enemy of the people". Then, a step further, they mentioned that one of them was "EVEN" gay. That kind of journalism, if you can call it that, creates or at least supports the "isms" we have in society. The sexual orientation of a judge had nothing to do with his verdict. Does that make sense? Thought so. Strange how UKBLM are so happy with their antisemitism. Shame. " They are encouraged and supported by the Labour Party. See today's news regarding proven antisemistism within the party. | |||
" Definitely not what I said. It's not teaching on slavery that informed these ideas, it's ingrained in society. It's not necessarily about sexy or not, it's about the hypersexual traits associated with being a black man. Any black man who's interacted with a fair few women (and probably men but I have less exposure to that world) could tell you about the kind of expectations and racial ideas that come into the sexual equation. And it is also true for other national, racial, sexual, political stereotype. Spot on. Of course one can have a preference, that is not offensive to anybody. But associating a trait with the entire group is stereotyping and that can inherently be offensive. Like the stereotyping around the Jewish community ? To be fair Jewish women in Israel are SO hot though! Long black hair, pale skin, shapely bodies
Sounds good... maybe one of them could play Cleopatra."Oy vey | |||
"Wow this escalated quickly...... why does this even have to be a topic on here. Why can’t people move on. Yes if you are getting real racial hatred but all this over preference!! Come on this is boring. " I'm enjoying the read and learning stuff.... Seems a good debate to me | |||
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"I don't understand how you can only be attracted to a "race" forgive me but I'm attracted to "the person" regardless of their colour/creed/religious disposition the colour of someone's skin has never been a factor for me, but for some on here it seems to mean more than anything else " Different races have different features that’s why. | |||
"I don't understand how you can only be attracted to a "race" forgive me but I'm attracted to "the person" regardless of their colour/creed/religious disposition the colour of someone's skin has never been a factor for me, but for some on here it seems to mean more than anything else Different races have different features that’s why. " Jeez, I'm not talking about physical features ffs, I'm talking about "the person" not their physical make-up | |||
"I don't understand how you can only be attracted to a "race" forgive me but I'm attracted to "the person" regardless of their colour/creed/religious disposition the colour of someone's skin has never been a factor for me, but for some on here it seems to mean more than anything else Different races have different features that’s why. Jeez, I'm not talking about physical features ffs, I'm talking about "the person" not their physical make-up " Jeez people 9/10 go for looks on here. Mostly looks and personality. This ain’t a dating site. Do you really think some women choose a hot guy with a big cock for he’s personality | |||
"I don't understand how you can only be attracted to a "race" forgive me but I'm attracted to "the person" regardless of their colour/creed/religious disposition the colour of someone's skin has never been a factor for me, but for some on here it seems to mean more than anything else Different races have different features that’s why. Jeez, I'm not talking about physical features ffs, I'm talking about "the person" not their physical make-up Jeez people 9/10 go for looks on here. Mostly looks and personality. This ain’t a dating site. Do you really think some women choose a hot guy with a big cock for he’s personality " Don't try and patronise me, really it's not a dating site??? I had no idea??? Shallow | |||
"I don't understand how you can only be attracted to a "race" forgive me but I'm attracted to "the person" regardless of their colour/creed/religious disposition the colour of someone's skin has never been a factor for me, but for some on here it seems to mean more than anything else Different races have different features that’s why. Jeez, I'm not talking about physical features ffs, I'm talking about "the person" not their physical make-up Jeez people 9/10 go for looks on here. Mostly looks and personality. This ain’t a dating site. Do you really think some women choose a hot guy with a big cock for he’s personality Don't try and patronise me, really it's not a dating site??? I had no idea??? Shallow " Jesus don’t take things you read on a tinternet forum to heart. Log out, have a brew or probably a wank would be a good stress relief | |||
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"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same? Is not wanting to have sex with a transexual transphobic? Is only sleeping with blondes brunettes phobic? No these are preferences. WE all discriminate sexually. Especially against ugly people! There is one obvious form of racism in the swinging scene however and that is the fetish to want to see your wife with a black man. The reason guys get off on it is that they see black men as inferior and so find it extra humiliating that they are 'so pathetic' that their wife would want to 'lower herself' to sleeping with a black man instead." Or maybe... It's because black men are said to have bigger dicks & the white men are inferior & be humiliated by seeing their wife take a real dick? | |||
"To me it's more about being mature about this whole thing. If a white woman says she's not into black guys, that's her preference, it doesn't make her racist, she could have a thing for blue eyes and blonde hair (I ain't got either and that's ok, I have dark brown eyes and dreadlocs along my back) but guess what white guys, Asian guys etc don't have my features either. And there are some white women who love my dreadlocs so it's like whatever. I think ppl make too much of a big deal about this tbh. I'm from a Caribbean island where guess what there are women my complexion and I mean dark skinned women of African ethnicity who prefer light skinned guys, there are women who don't like guys like me who have dreadlocs. You can't dictate what someone likes, that's ridiculous and defeats the purpose of us being unique individuals. It comes like when some women say guys body shame then because they may not like fat women, again it's just a preference. However it is only racism if you say something like ppl of a certain race are ugly, smell bad etc. Then it is a bit horrid, but having a preference for men for women of different heights, weights, hair colour, texture, race etc, are just preferences and I don't see race e in that at all. I'm a proud black guy, I have a nice body, I have full lips, dimples and dreads and I absolutely love my features and wouldn't trade them for anything in the world tbh. " Definitely hear your perspective. Have you ever (including teen years), felt pressure around how you should "perform" or be sexually because you're a black guy? I didn't look at your profile properly, so not sure where you fit on the hung to not so well hung scale, but things like that or being more dominant etc. | |||
"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same? Is not wanting to have sex with a transexual transphobic? Is only sleeping with blondes brunettes phobic? No these are preferences. WE all discriminate sexually. Especially against ugly people! There is one obvious form of racism in the swinging scene however and that is the fetish to want to see your wife with a black man. The reason guys get off on it is that they see black men as inferior and so find it extra humiliating that they are 'so pathetic' that their wife would want to 'lower herself' to sleeping with a black man instead. Or maybe... It's because black men are said to have bigger dicks & the white men are inferior & be humiliated by seeing their wife take a real dick? " Both could be true for different people. I've met many women who would fuck black guys but never date them or take them seriously romantically. Essentially treating them as walking dildos. Others, who borderline worship black guys. | |||
"This is just a thought I had after reading a very interesting research peice. Sexual racism is a specific form of racial prejudice enacted in the context of sex or romance. Online, people use sex and dating profiles to describe racialized attraction through language such as “Not attracted to Asians.” If this is deemed true, are we all not culprits of underlying tendecies that could contribute towards racial discrimination? Grinder has removed its ethnicty search option, maybe swinging community should do the same? It’s an interesting idea. I occasionally work in Rwanda and attend a few education events around the 1994 the genocide , which was due to Belgian classification of people by ethnicity (Hutu or Tutsi) _ased on fake science. now no one is required to state ethnicity for anything and it’s rude to ask , ethnicity has effectively been abolished , everyone is simply Rwandan. I think it’s a good idea , it’s worked there and brought people together. All classifications and labels are wrong and just create division. You know Rwanden is their new ethnicity right? Ethnicity has very little to do with race. It's about cultural and historic inheritence." No it’s their nationality, there is no real concept of ethnicity now it was historic _ased on whether you farmed crops or livestock and then used by Belgians to decide who had access to health and education, so it became a class system. | |||
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"If you are choosing not to meet someone _ased on a prejudicial stereotype centred around the colour of their skin or ethnic origin. This is racism. If you are choosing not to meet someone _ased on the fact that certain physical characteristics do not turn you on. This is preference If you are choosing not to meet someone _ased on previous experience of other people with certain physical characteristics. This is choice. If you are choosing not to meet someone because they have failed to read your profile and failed to take this into account before messaging. Then this is common sense. What baffles me are the amount of people that claim that “racist” people won’t meet them. Why would you want to meet a racist? Similarly why would you want to meet a misandrist or misogynist? Stick with the people that want to meet you....." Very well put | |||
"To me it's more about being mature about this whole thing. If a white woman says she's not into black guys, that's her preference, it doesn't make her racist, she could have a thing for blue eyes and blonde hair (I ain't got either and that's ok, I have dark brown eyes and dreadlocs along my back) but guess what white guys, Asian guys etc don't have my features either. And there are some white women who love my dreadlocs so it's like whatever. I think ppl make too much of a big deal about this tbh. I'm from a Caribbean island where guess what there are women my complexion and I mean dark skinned women of African ethnicity who prefer light skinned guys, there are women who don't like guys like me who have dreadlocs. You can't dictate what someone likes, that's ridiculous and defeats the purpose of us being unique individuals. It comes like when some women say guys body shame then because they may not like fat women, again it's just a preference. However it is only racism if you say something like ppl of a certain race are ugly, smell bad etc. Then it is a bit horrid, but having a preference for men for women of different heights, weights, hair colour, texture, race etc, are just preferences and I don't see race e in that at all. I'm a proud black guy, I have a nice body, I have full lips, dimples and dreads and I absolutely love my features and wouldn't trade them for anything in the world tbh. Definitely hear your perspective. Have you ever (including teen years), felt pressure around how you should "perform" or be sexually because you're a black guy? I didn't look at your profile properly, so not sure where you fit on the hung to not so well hung scale, but things like that or being more dominant etc. " Most of the population in my country are divided between Africans and Indians. I've always gotten compliments about my dick so that was never an issue with me. However it wasn't until I came to the UK that I realised wow ok I am big, and there was an expectation, of course there have been the flip side in terms of women who never had a bbc before and they were surprised and sometimes it was painful at times (so I had to go gentle) But again to sum up and answer your question no there was never a pressure growing up to perform (actually I lost my virginity at age 23 lol) | |||
"To me it's more about being mature about this whole thing. If a white woman says she's not into black guys, that's her preference, it doesn't make her racist, she could have a thing for blue eyes and blonde hair (I ain't got either and that's ok, I have dark brown eyes and dreadlocs along my back) but guess what white guys, Asian guys etc don't have my features either. And there are some white women who love my dreadlocs so it's like whatever. I think ppl make too much of a big deal about this tbh. I'm from a Caribbean island where guess what there are women my complexion and I mean dark skinned women of African ethnicity who prefer light skinned guys, there are women who don't like guys like me who have dreadlocs. You can't dictate what someone likes, that's ridiculous and defeats the purpose of us being unique individuals. It comes like when some women say guys body shame then because they may not like fat women, again it's just a preference. However it is only racism if you say something like ppl of a certain race are ugly, smell bad etc. Then it is a bit horrid, but having a preference for men for women of different heights, weights, hair colour, texture, race etc, are just preferences and I don't see race e in that at all. I'm a proud black guy, I have a nice body, I have full lips, dimples and dreads and I absolutely love my features and wouldn't trade them for anything in the world tbh. "  | |||
"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist
It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days.
How?
Which aspect are you questioning?
You only listed one,
"hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days."
How? How do women in 2020 correlate attraction to black guys with slavery?
Where does the notion of black men being very sexual arise from? It stems back in the days of slavery, it was a way of presenting black males as predatory and something white women should be protected from... This often had the opposite effect. However as black men were property... If a white women wanted to sleep with a black man, she could, forcibly and if caught, he would be killed as he's the brute etc. However, this centred and developed the myth of black men being hypersexual individuals. There was also historical myths spread about black behaviour in Africa and the concerns of black men integrating into white society. The idea at the time, you had to keep presenting enslaved individuals as subhuman to justify it to the public.
Anyway, these ideas are only a few hundred years old and have morphed over the years but the same ideas are present. Black men = beastly, sexual prowess, predarorial, hypersexual and so forth. This is both internalised by black boys/men and wider society, to varying degrees.
Typing on my phone so excuse any areas. Quite a few sociological and psychological studies on it. It's an area of focus of mine in my non-fab life. "Not something I’ve considered but I do abhor the preference for ‘BBC only’ and find it insulting to black men. However - a whole swinging sub culture has built up around this ‘preference’ - from BMFC (and many other versions) parties - to ‘queen of spades’ tattoos etc etc - and to my dismay I’ve often been contacted by black men who’s only comment is ‘Do you like BBC?’. I met a black guy in a club at a non bbc event. He was intelligent, articulate and bloody gorgeous - and after an hour or two of chatting we had great sex. I gave him a verification the next day - and unlike all his other verifications I focussed on his personality and intellect rather than his cock size and sexual prowess. He didn’t even display it! Seemingly he preferred being objectified. I declined to meet him again! What I’m saying is - the many, many black guys who attend fetish events like this and describe themselves as bbc are perpetuating the problem. If every black man on fab refused to be objectified then it wouldn’t happen. Hugs Peachy xxx | |||
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"Also, what is it with straight men who won't consider relationships with transwomen, only cis-women? Surely this is transphobic? And don't even get me started on men who are happy to fuck bbw, then go back home to their leggy blond trophy wife! The sooner we are all issued our government sanctioned life partners the better! " Perhaps this is how I’ll get a life partner | |||
"To me it's more about being mature about this whole thing. If a white woman says she's not into black guys, that's her preference, it doesn't make her racist, she could have a thing for blue eyes and blonde hair (I ain't got either and that's ok, I have dark brown eyes and dreadlocs along my back) but guess what white guys, Asian guys etc don't have my features either. And there are some white women who love my dreadlocs so it's like whatever. I think ppl make too much of a big deal about this tbh. I'm from a Caribbean island where guess what there are women my complexion and I mean dark skinned women of African ethnicity who prefer light skinned guys, there are women who don't like guys like me who have dreadlocs. You can't dictate what someone likes, that's ridiculous and defeats the purpose of us being unique individuals. It comes like when some women say guys body shame then because they may not like fat women, again it's just a preference. However it is only racism if you say something like ppl of a certain race are ugly, smell bad etc. Then it is a bit horrid, but having a preference for men for women of different heights, weights, hair colour, texture, race etc, are just preferences and I don't see race e in that at all. I'm a proud black guy, I have a nice body, I have full lips, dimples and dreads and I absolutely love my features and wouldn't trade them for anything in the world tbh. " This | |||
"Also, what is it with straight men who won't consider relationships with transwomen, only cis-women? Surely this is transphobic? And don't even get me started on men who are happy to fuck bbw, then go back home to their leggy blond trophy wife! The sooner we are all issued our government sanctioned life partners the better! Perhaps this is how I’ll get a life partner "Every cloud! | |||
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"I don't think it's racist if I'm not attracted to black men. I'm not, I can't really help it. Just like I'm not attracted to blondes either, or guys who are shorter than me. I can't force an attraction I don't feel. What I do think is racist is when people fetishize black men, talking about how they want to use a "big black cock" or "get blacked" etc - I think this type of language is totally unacceptable." Why do you think it's unacceptable- what has it got to do with you? | |||
""Hi! Im sexually attracted to you! Can we meet?" "Not until we both understand WHY you find me attractive, after all, you might be unconsciously racist, and/or fetishising me...""  | |||
"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist
It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days.
How?
Which aspect are you questioning?
You only listed one,
"hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days."
How? How do women in 2020 correlate attraction to black guys with slavery?
Where does the notion of black men being very sexual arise from? It stems back in the days of slavery, it was a way of presenting black males as predatory and something white women should be protected from... This often had the opposite effect. However as black men were property... If a white women wanted to sleep with a black man, she could, forcibly and if caught, he would be killed as he's the brute etc. However, this centred and developed the myth of black men being hypersexual individuals. There was also historical myths spread about black behaviour in Africa and the concerns of black men integrating into white society. The idea at the time, you had to keep presenting enslaved individuals as subhuman to justify it to the public.
Anyway, these ideas are only a few hundred years old and have morphed over the years but the same ideas are present. Black men = beastly, sexual prowess, predarorial, hypersexual and so forth. This is both internalised by black boys/men and wider society, to varying degrees.
Typing on my phone so excuse any areas. Quite a few sociological and psychological studies on it. It's an area of focus of mine in my non-fab life.
Not something I’ve considered but I do abhor the preference for ‘BBC only’ and find it insulting to black men.
However - a whole swinging sub culture has built up around this ‘preference’ - from BMFC (and many other versions) parties - to ‘queen of spades’ tattoos etc etc - and to my dismay I’ve often been contacted by black men who’s only comment is ‘Do you like BBC?’.
I met a black guy in a club at a non bbc event. He was intelligent, articulate and bloody gorgeous - and after an hour or two of chatting we had great sex.
I gave him a verification the next day - and unlike all his other verifications I focussed on his personality and intellect rather than his cock size and sexual prowess. He didn’t even display it!
Seemingly he preferred being objectified. I declined to meet him again!
What I’m saying is - the many, many black guys who attend fetish events like this and describe themselves as bbc are perpetuating the problem.
If every black man on fab refused to be objectified then it wouldn’t happen.
Hugs
Peachy xxx"If both parties are happy, is it a problem? | |||
"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist
It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days.
How?
Which aspect are you questioning?
You only listed one,
"hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days."
How? How do women in 2020 correlate attraction to black guys with slavery?
Where does the notion of black men being very sexual arise from? It stems back in the days of slavery, it was a way of presenting black males as predatory and something white women should be protected from... This often had the opposite effect. However as black men were property... If a white women wanted to sleep with a black man, she could, forcibly and if caught, he would be killed as he's the brute etc. However, this centred and developed the myth of black men being hypersexual individuals. There was also historical myths spread about black behaviour in Africa and the concerns of black men integrating into white society. The idea at the time, you had to keep presenting enslaved individuals as subhuman to justify it to the public.
Anyway, these ideas are only a few hundred years old and have morphed over the years but the same ideas are present. Black men = beastly, sexual prowess, predarorial, hypersexual and so forth. This is both internalised by black boys/men and wider society, to varying degrees.
Typing on my phone so excuse any areas. Quite a few sociological and psychological studies on it. It's an area of focus of mine in my non-fab life.
Not something I’ve considered but I do abhor the preference for ‘BBC only’ and find it insulting to black men.
However - a whole swinging sub culture has built up around this ‘preference’ - from BMFC (and many other versions) parties - to ‘queen of spades’ tattoos etc etc - and to my dismay I’ve often been contacted by black men who’s only comment is ‘Do you like BBC?’.
I met a black guy in a club at a non bbc event. He was intelligent, articulate and bloody gorgeous - and after an hour or two of chatting we had great sex.
I gave him a verification the next day - and unlike all his other verifications I focussed on his personality and intellect rather than his cock size and sexual prowess. He didn’t even display it!
Seemingly he preferred being objectified. I declined to meet him again!
What I’m saying is - the many, many black guys who attend fetish events like this and describe themselves as bbc are perpetuating the problem.
If every black man on fab refused to be objectified then it wouldn’t happen.
Hugs
Peachy xxx
If both parties are happy, is it a problem?"Well in my case both parties weren’t happy - because I wasn’t! | |||
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"Was gonna but just cant be bothered carry on" Lmao | |||
"Lots of white couples ain’t attracted to white makes on here. So is that racist
It could be, allot of cuckold fantasies if we dig a little deeper are hinged on hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days.
How?
Which aspect are you questioning?
You only listed one,
"hypersexualisation of black mens bodies, which is tied back to how black males were used way back in slavery days."
How? How do women in 2020 correlate attraction to black guys with slavery?
Where does the notion of black men being very sexual arise from? It stems back in the days of slavery, it was a way of presenting black males as predatory and something white women should be protected from... This often had the opposite effect. However as black men were property... If a white women wanted to sleep with a black man, she could, forcibly and if caught, he would be killed as he's the brute etc. However, this centred and developed the myth of black men being hypersexual individuals. There was also historical myths spread about black behaviour in Africa and the concerns of black men integrating into white society. The idea at the time, you had to keep presenting enslaved individuals as subhuman to justify it to the public.
Anyway, these ideas are only a few hundred years old and have morphed over the years but the same ideas are present. Black men = beastly, sexual prowess, predarorial, hypersexual and so forth. This is both internalised by black boys/men and wider society, to varying degrees.
Typing on my phone so excuse any areas. Quite a few sociological and psychological studies on it. It's an area of focus of mine in my non-fab life.
Not something I’ve considered but I do abhor the preference for ‘BBC only’ and find it insulting to black men.
However - a whole swinging sub culture has built up around this ‘preference’ - from BMFC (and many other versions) parties - to ‘queen of spades’ tattoos etc etc - and to my dismay I’ve often been contacted by black men who’s only comment is ‘Do you like BBC?’.
I met a black guy in a club at a non bbc event. He was intelligent, articulate and bloody gorgeous - and after an hour or two of chatting we had great sex.
I gave him a verification the next day - and unlike all his other verifications I focussed on his personality and intellect rather than his cock size and sexual prowess. He didn’t even display it!
Seemingly he preferred being objectified. I declined to meet him again!
What I’m saying is - the many, many black guys who attend fetish events like this and describe themselves as bbc are perpetuating the problem.
If every black man on fab refused to be objectified then it wouldn’t happen.
Hugs
Peachy xxx
If both parties are happy, is it a problem?"Yes!! What if they're happy for the WRONG reasons!!! The horror... | |||
" Not something I’ve considered but I do abhor the preference for ‘BBC only’ and find it insulting to black men. However - a whole swinging sub culture has built up around this ‘preference’ - from BMFC (and many other versions) parties - to ‘queen of spades’ tattoos etc etc - and to my dismay I’ve often been contacted by black men who’s only comment is ‘Do you like BBC?’. I met a black guy in a club at a non bbc event. He was intelligent, articulate and bloody gorgeous - and after an hour or two of chatting we had great sex. I gave him a verification the next day - and unlike all his other verifications I focussed on his personality and intellect rather than his cock size and sexual prowess. He didn’t even display it! Seemingly he preferred being objectified. I declined to meet him again! What I’m saying is - the many, many black guys who attend fetish events like this and describe themselves as bbc are perpetuating the problem. If every black man on fab refused to be objectified then it wouldn’t happen. Hugs Peachy xxx" Interesting to hear your experience. It is far easier to get sex by putting BBC or variations of that kind of language in your bio or language. Allot of black guys adopt the title because their is a social value in it. If I say I'm "black bull" or "BBC" immediately I get interest from the other sex. Similar to titles like BBW, Thick etc I think, I could be wrong, these labels are so prevalent in the sexual sub culture because historically these were things that were shamed. Still are in varying degrees and so adopting it proudly is a bit of a "fuck you" but also a bit of a acceptance thing. I personally wish all black guys rejected terms like BBC and refused to sleep with queen of spades etc, that's because I think they are usually fetishised madly by those termed. | |||
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"So using the term 'BBC' etc is not just another way to get sex?
Yawn.
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