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"Where does the money come from, who will end up paying, I can barely afford to feed myself at the moment ?!" google? | |||
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"Where does the money come from, who will end up paying, I can barely afford to feed myself at the moment ?!google?" It was a hypothetical question | |||
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"Where does the money come from, who will end up paying, I can barely afford to feed myself at the moment ?!google? It was a hypothetical question" no google will pay it they are kind people i hear | |||
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"Could someone explain it to me please Do school kids get free dinner in England so when schools are closed they don't get anything I know your government voted to stop the free dinners while schools are closed but where would the kids have gotten these free dinners anyway Genuine questions as I'm in Ireland and even as a Liverpool supporter full of admiration for Marcus Rashford " At school all KS1 children are offered a free meal (not all take it) from KS2 it's means tested by the parents/guardians earnings. In the school holidays they used to get nothing but during lockdown they produced vouchers that could be put towards a food shop. | |||
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"Could someone explain it to me please Do school kids get free dinner in England so when schools are closed they don't get anything I know your government voted to stop the free dinners while schools are closed but where would the kids have gotten these free dinners anyway Genuine questions as I'm in Ireland and even as a Liverpool supporter full of admiration for Marcus Rashford At school all KS1 children are offered a free meal (not all take it) from KS2 it's means tested by the parents/guardians earnings. In the school holidays they used to get nothing but during lockdown they produced vouchers that could be put towards a food shop. " Thank you for that...even reading the uk papers I didn't get the vouchers towards a food shop bit and assumed it was for school dinners | |||
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"Where does the money come from, who will end up paying, I can barely afford to feed myself at the moment ?!" Thought you had lamb chops the other night ? | |||
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"Why should everything be free if people can afford to pay for something?" Everything isnt free. | |||
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"No taxpayers money to left to feed our future generations, the immigrants are receiving it all " Oh dear | |||
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"No taxpayers money to left to feed our future generations, the immigrants are receiving it all " There's always one! And what immigrants are these then? | |||
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"Where does the money come from, who will end up paying, I can barely afford to feed myself at the moment ?!" Maybe stopping our taxes from heavily subsidising our well paid politicians food and alcohol in Parliament would help? That currently costs £57,000 per week. | |||
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"We live in one of the richest countries in the world and millionaires are letting kids go hungry. Where the rich pay buttons in tax and million pound contracts go missing. If you cant see a problem with this.. " This is where I have a bit of a problem because yes there are huge disparities between the haves and the have not. How ever we do have generous benefit system and I'm sorry but the government cannot be blamed for people mismanaging their money, Obviously I understand the situation isn't simple as I work with disadvantaged familys. But the answer isn't just keep giving money. | |||
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"I'm very split on this issue to be honest. There are people who are really struggling Especially with the current situation. People suddenly having kids off school with very little notice because of symptoms or someone in the bubble testing positive ect... People's hours being cut so yes I do feel that in the short term we should help people who get free school meals during half term and holidays. I don't however think this should be a permanent thing, If you constantly help people they become reliant And theres emergency help available when something goes wrong. This is an unprecedented situation and people are finding themselves in a predicament that nobody could have planned for so yes we should help, However when it comes to normal school holidays when things are a little bit more stable then parents on low incomes need to plan to like the rest of us." Apologies but bit of a rant ahead...Don’t think it would ever become a permanent thing but I’m one of those who signed a petition to try to stop MP’s getting free/subsidised allowances of up to £25 a day for food. When they vote against helping the vulnerable, and their average allowance would feed 6 children for the week, it’s so hypocritical. I’m not even in England, but I despise the “I’m alright Hack” attitude I’ve seen, this relates to children! There is no justification to deny them assistance. The children would normally receive the assistance when in school, lockdown means they’re obviously at home and that’s an extra mouth to budget for, without a change to incomings. It’s not an ideal situation, but many parents are struggling. It’s too simplistic to say they shouldn’t have had them if they can’t afford them, as well as the usual accusations of drink, cigarettes and technology. That’s not taking into account loss of employment, furlough (and thus reduced income) the fact that not everyone has addictions or top of the range technology etc. Not everyone who relies on FSM are the long term unemployed. Private renting, due to a lack of social housing impacts on income, as one example of why people struggle. Increase in use of electricity, heating etc, when children are home plays a part. When I was doing my English degree we couldn’t get any assistance as my then husband was working. At one point he was working ten hours a week as, he was a relief project worker, bringing home £50 a week. It didn’t matter that it was so little, we weren’t entitled to help. This may be the reality for some needing help now, thanks to the reliance on zero hour contracts. The amount of friends I have who have lost their jobs as the firms have closed or made cut backs is alarming tbh, and terribly sad x It’s all a sorry mess, and I hope that normality resumes at the earliest possibility, for the children, if for no other reason xx | |||
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"I'm very split on this issue to be honest. There are people who are really struggling Especially with the current situation. People suddenly having kids off school with very little notice because of symptoms or someone in the bubble testing positive ect... People's hours being cut so yes I do feel that in the short term we should help people who get free school meals during half term and holidays. I don't however think this should be a permanent thing, If you constantly help people they become reliant And theres emergency help available when something goes wrong. This is an unprecedented situation and people are finding themselves in a predicament that nobody could have planned for so yes we should help, However when it comes to normal school holidays when things are a little bit more stable then parents on low incomes need to plan to like the rest of us. Apologies but bit of a rant ahead...Don’t think it would ever become a permanent thing but I’m one of those who signed a petition to try to stop MP’s getting free/subsidised allowances of up to £25 a day for food. When they vote against helping the vulnerable, and their average allowance would feed 6 children for the week, it’s so hypocritical. I’m not even in England, but I despise the “I’m alright Hack” attitude I’ve seen, this relates to children! There is no justification to deny them assistance. The children would normally receive the assistance when in school, lockdown means they’re obviously at home and that’s an extra mouth to budget for, without a change to incomings. It’s not an ideal situation, but many parents are struggling. It’s too simplistic to say they shouldn’t have had them if they can’t afford them, as well as the usual accusations of drink, cigarettes and technology. That’s not taking into account loss of employment, furlough (and thus reduced income) the fact that not everyone has addictions or top of the range technology etc. Not everyone who relies on FSM are the long term unemployed. Private renting, due to a lack of social housing impacts on income, as one example of why people struggle. Increase in use of electricity, heating etc, when children are home plays a part. When I was doing my English degree we couldn’t get any assistance as my then husband was working. At one point he was working ten hours a week as, he was a relief project worker, bringing home £50 a week. It didn’t matter that it was so little, we weren’t entitled to help. This may be the reality for some needing help now, thanks to the reliance on zero hour contracts. The amount of friends I have who have lost their jobs as the firms have closed or made cut backs is alarming tbh, and terribly sad x It’s all a sorry mess, and I hope that normality resumes at the earliest possibility, for the children, if for no other reason xx " alright Jack, but hack | |||
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"We live in one of the richest countries in the world and millionaires are letting kids go hungry. Where the rich pay buttons in tax and million pound contracts go missing. If you cant see a problem with this.. This is where I have a bit of a problem because yes there are huge disparities between the haves and the have not. How ever we do have generous benefit system and I'm sorry but the government cannot be blamed for people mismanaging their money, Obviously I understand the situation isn't simple as I work with disadvantaged familys. But the answer isn't just keep giving money." The gmnts can be blamed for widening the gap between rich and poor. We have structural inequality in this country and I doubt a gmnt with a mp who has a butler are going to address that. | |||
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"I'm very split on this issue to be honest. There are people who are really struggling Especially with the current situation. People suddenly having kids off school with very little notice because of symptoms or someone in the bubble testing positive ect... People's hours being cut so yes I do feel that in the short term we should help people who get free school meals during half term and holidays. I don't however think this should be a permanent thing, If you constantly help people they become reliant And theres emergency help available when something goes wrong. This is an unprecedented situation and people are finding themselves in a predicament that nobody could have planned for so yes we should help, However when it comes to normal school holidays when things are a little bit more stable then parents on low incomes need to plan to like the rest of us. Apologies but bit of a rant ahead...Don’t think it would ever become a permanent thing but I’m one of those who signed a petition to try to stop MP’s getting free/subsidised allowances of up to £25 a day for food. When they vote against helping the vulnerable, and their average allowance would feed 6 children for the week, it’s so hypocritical. I’m not even in England, but I despise the “I’m alright Hack” attitude I’ve seen, this relates to children! There is no justification to deny them assistance. The children would normally receive the assistance when in school, lockdown means they’re obviously at home and that’s an extra mouth to budget for, without a change to incomings. It’s not an ideal situation, but many parents are struggling. It’s too simplistic to say they shouldn’t have had them if they can’t afford them, as well as the usual accusations of drink, cigarettes and technology. That’s not taking into account loss of employment, furlough (and thus reduced income) the fact that not everyone has addictions or top of the range technology etc. Not everyone who relies on FSM are the long term unemployed. Private renting, due to a lack of social housing impacts on income, as one example of why people struggle. Increase in use of electricity, heating etc, when children are home plays a part. When I was doing my English degree we couldn’t get any assistance as my then husband was working. At one point he was working ten hours a week as, he was a relief project worker, bringing home £50 a week. It didn’t matter that it was so little, we weren’t entitled to help. This may be the reality for some needing help now, thanks to the reliance on zero hour contracts. The amount of friends I have who have lost their jobs as the firms have closed or made cut backs is alarming tbh, and terribly sad x It’s all a sorry mess, and I hope that normality resumes at the earliest possibility, for the children, if for no other reason xx " Tbf I think the subsidied meal thing is a bit of a red herring. It's for everyone who works there, prob down to office juniors who are not on massive salaries. | |||
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"I'm very split on this issue to be honest. There are people who are really struggling Especially with the current situation. People suddenly having kids off school with very little notice because of symptoms or someone in the bubble testing positive ect... People's hours being cut so yes I do feel that in the short term we should help people who get free school meals during half term and holidays. I don't however think this should be a permanent thing, If you constantly help people they become reliant And theres emergency help available when something goes wrong. This is an unprecedented situation and people are finding themselves in a predicament that nobody could have planned for so yes we should help, However when it comes to normal school holidays when things are a little bit more stable then parents on low incomes need to plan to like the rest of us. Apologies but bit of a rant ahead...Don’t think it would ever become a permanent thing but I’m one of those who signed a petition to try to stop MP’s getting free/subsidised allowances of up to £25 a day for food. When they vote against helping the vulnerable, and their average allowance would feed 6 children for the week, it’s so hypocritical. I’m not even in England, but I despise the “I’m alright Hack” attitude I’ve seen, this relates to children! There is no justification to deny them assistance. The children would normally receive the assistance when in school, lockdown means they’re obviously at home and that’s an extra mouth to budget for, without a change to incomings. It’s not an ideal situation, but many parents are struggling. It’s too simplistic to say they shouldn’t have had them if they can’t afford them, as well as the usual accusations of drink, cigarettes and technology. That’s not taking into account loss of employment, furlough (and thus reduced income) the fact that not everyone has addictions or top of the range technology etc. Not everyone who relies on FSM are the long term unemployed. Private renting, due to a lack of social housing impacts on income, as one example of why people struggle. Increase in use of electricity, heating etc, when children are home plays a part. When I was doing my English degree we couldn’t get any assistance as my then husband was working. At one point he was working ten hours a week as, he was a relief project worker, bringing home £50 a week. It didn’t matter that it was so little, we weren’t entitled to help. This may be the reality for some needing help now, thanks to the reliance on zero hour contracts. The amount of friends I have who have lost their jobs as the firms have closed or made cut backs is alarming tbh, and terribly sad x It’s all a sorry mess, and I hope that normality resumes at the earliest possibility, for the children, if for no other reason xx " I do understand everything you have said and during lockdown vouches were given because it was an emergency situation that nobody could have planned for and that was the right decision. There are food banks for emergency situations and churches and food banks have been supplying food for children during school holidays for while. However The majority of parents whos children Receive free school meals don't take these offers up and they are well advertised as leaflets get sent out in book bags. | |||
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"I can't believe this is an issue in 2020. We shouldn't have children or anybody for that matter going hungry, take away the politics it is not ethical or morally right. And I'm sorry but Children have been going hungry for generations prior to covid, what a shame it has taken a Football player and a pandemic for people to bang their pan over it. Just let the kids eat, sort the whyfors out later "  | |||
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"I'm very split on this issue to be honest. There are people who are really struggling Especially with the current situation. People suddenly having kids off school with very little notice because of symptoms or someone in the bubble testing positive ect... People's hours being cut so yes I do feel that in the short term we should help people who get free school meals during half term and holidays. I don't however think this should be a permanent thing, If you constantly help people they become reliant And theres emergency help available when something goes wrong. This is an unprecedented situation and people are finding themselves in a predicament that nobody could have planned for so yes we should help, However when it comes to normal school holidays when things are a little bit more stable then parents on low incomes need to plan to like the rest of us. Apologies but bit of a rant ahead...Don’t think it would ever become a permanent thing but I’m one of those who signed a petition to try to stop MP’s getting free/subsidised allowances of up to £25 a day for food. When they vote against helping the vulnerable, and their average allowance would feed 6 children for the week, it’s so hypocritical. I’m not even in England, but I despise the “I’m alright Hack” attitude I’ve seen, this relates to children! There is no justification to deny them assistance. The children would normally receive the assistance when in school, lockdown means they’re obviously at home and that’s an extra mouth to budget for, without a change to incomings. It’s not an ideal situation, but many parents are struggling. It’s too simplistic to say they shouldn’t have had them if they can’t afford them, as well as the usual accusations of drink, cigarettes and technology. That’s not taking into account loss of employment, furlough (and thus reduced income) the fact that not everyone has addictions or top of the range technology etc. Not everyone who relies on FSM are the long term unemployed. Private renting, due to a lack of social housing impacts on income, as one example of why people struggle. Increase in use of electricity, heating etc, when children are home plays a part. When I was doing my English degree we couldn’t get any assistance as my then husband was working. At one point he was working ten hours a week as, he was a relief project worker, bringing home £50 a week. It didn’t matter that it was so little, we weren’t entitled to help. This may be the reality for some needing help now, thanks to the reliance on zero hour contracts. The amount of friends I have who have lost their jobs as the firms have closed or made cut backs is alarming tbh, and terribly sad x It’s all a sorry mess, and I hope that normality resumes at the earliest possibility, for the children, if for no other reason xx Tbf I think the subsidied meal thing is a bit of a red herring. It's for everyone who works there, prob down to office juniors who are not on massive salaries. " Whether it’s a red herring or not, the people who voted against extending the FSM during the holidays, for the children of England receive that assistance, from the public purse. I’ve no issue with office juniors having assistance, they didn’t sign their name to a policy that’s so hypocritical. The petition is for MP’s only. It may be looked at again according to some media reports, but not until Nov/Dec apparently. Hope it is and it’s overturned xx | |||
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"Give a little and want more. It depresses me when I go on my cycling trips and see neighbourhoods of run down homes and old trashed toys littering the front overgrown lawns. Yes these kids shouldn't be hungry, but what sort of parents brings children in to that world? Often the uneducated alcoholics.... And yet, I hear many nurses who struggle to make ends meet, especially those with a young family. There's an economic injustice and blanket policies of handouts won't solve the problem. Maybe we should be a communist state? "Jesus wept | |||
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"I'm very split on this issue to be honest. There are people who are really struggling Especially with the current situation. People suddenly having kids off school with very little notice because of symptoms or someone in the bubble testing positive ect... People's hours being cut so yes I do feel that in the short term we should help people who get free school meals during half term and holidays. I don't however think this should be a permanent thing, If you constantly help people they become reliant And theres emergency help available when something goes wrong. This is an unprecedented situation and people are finding themselves in a predicament that nobody could have planned for so yes we should help, However when it comes to normal school holidays when things are a little bit more stable then parents on low incomes need to plan to like the rest of us. Apologies but bit of a rant ahead...Don’t think it would ever become a permanent thing but I’m one of those who signed a petition to try to stop MP’s getting free/subsidised allowances of up to £25 a day for food. When they vote against helping the vulnerable, and their average allowance would feed 6 children for the week, it’s so hypocritical. I’m not even in England, but I despise the “I’m alright Hack” attitude I’ve seen, this relates to children! There is no justification to deny them assistance. The children would normally receive the assistance when in school, lockdown means they’re obviously at home and that’s an extra mouth to budget for, without a change to incomings. It’s not an ideal situation, but many parents are struggling. It’s too simplistic to say they shouldn’t have had them if they can’t afford them, as well as the usual accusations of drink, cigarettes and technology. That’s not taking into account loss of employment, furlough (and thus reduced income) the fact that not everyone has addictions or top of the range technology etc. Not everyone who relies on FSM are the long term unemployed. Private renting, due to a lack of social housing impacts on income, as one example of why people struggle. Increase in use of electricity, heating etc, when children are home plays a part. When I was doing my English degree we couldn’t get any assistance as my then husband was working. At one point he was working ten hours a week as, he was a relief project worker, bringing home £50 a week. It didn’t matter that it was so little, we weren’t entitled to help. This may be the reality for some needing help now, thanks to the reliance on zero hour contracts. The amount of friends I have who have lost their jobs as the firms have closed or made cut backs is alarming tbh, and terribly sad x It’s all a sorry mess, and I hope that normality resumes at the earliest possibility, for the children, if for no other reason xx Tbf I think the subsidied meal thing is a bit of a red herring. It's for everyone who works there, prob down to office juniors who are not on massive salaries. Whether it’s a red herring or not, the people who voted against extending the FSM during the holidays, for the children of England receive that assistance, from the public purse. I’ve no issue with office juniors having assistance, they didn’t sign their name to a policy that’s so hypocritical. The petition is for MP’s only. It may be looked at again according to some media reports, but not until Nov/Dec apparently. Hope it is and it’s overturned xx" Completely agree but a lot of them have no concept of the real world. Remember the big society where they expected people to work for nothing | |||
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"I'm very split on this issue to be honest. There are people who are really struggling Especially with the current situation. People suddenly having kids off school with very little notice because of symptoms or someone in the bubble testing positive ect... People's hours being cut so yes I do feel that in the short term we should help people who get free school meals during half term and holidays. I don't however think this should be a permanent thing, If you constantly help people they become reliant And theres emergency help available when something goes wrong. This is an unprecedented situation and people are finding themselves in a predicament that nobody could have planned for so yes we should help, However when it comes to normal school holidays when things are a little bit more stable then parents on low incomes need to plan to like the rest of us. Apologies but bit of a rant ahead...Don’t think it would ever become a permanent thing but I’m one of those who signed a petition to try to stop MP’s getting free/subsidised allowances of up to £25 a day for food. When they vote against helping the vulnerable, and their average allowance would feed 6 children for the week, it’s so hypocritical. I’m not even in England, but I despise the “I’m alright Hack” attitude I’ve seen, this relates to children! There is no justification to deny them assistance. The children would normally receive the assistance when in school, lockdown means they’re obviously at home and that’s an extra mouth to budget for, without a change to incomings. It’s not an ideal situation, but many parents are struggling. It’s too simplistic to say they shouldn’t have had them if they can’t afford them, as well as the usual accusations of drink, cigarettes and technology. That’s not taking into account loss of employment, furlough (and thus reduced income) the fact that not everyone has addictions or top of the range technology etc. Not everyone who relies on FSM are the long term unemployed. Private renting, due to a lack of social housing impacts on income, as one example of why people struggle. Increase in use of electricity, heating etc, when children are home plays a part. When I was doing my English degree we couldn’t get any assistance as my then husband was working. At one point he was working ten hours a week as, he was a relief project worker, bringing home £50 a week. It didn’t matter that it was so little, we weren’t entitled to help. This may be the reality for some needing help now, thanks to the reliance on zero hour contracts. The amount of friends I have who have lost their jobs as the firms have closed or made cut backs is alarming tbh, and terribly sad x It’s all a sorry mess, and I hope that normality resumes at the earliest possibility, for the children, if for no other reason xx I do understand everything you have said and during lockdown vouches were given because it was an emergency situation that nobody could have planned for and that was the right decision. There are food banks for emergency situations and churches and food banks have been supplying food for children during school holidays for while. However The majority of parents whos children Receive free school meals don't take these offers up and they are well advertised as leaflets get sent out in book bags. " And yet food banks were closing locally as they had nothing left, they’ were struggling to help. We also can not say who does and doesn’t take up these offers, as even those who rely on benefits have a sense of pride and so may not advertise the fact they access them. I dread to think how many people do go hungry because of this. My mum works for a homeless organisation and she tells me of people who are literally clinging to their last shred of pride and avoid asking the charity for help, as they already feel embarrassed and a burden. It’s all so sad xx | |||
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"I'm very split on this issue to be honest. There are people who are really struggling Especially with the current situation. People suddenly having kids off school with very little notice because of symptoms or someone in the bubble testing positive ect... People's hours being cut so yes I do feel that in the short term we should help people who get free school meals during half term and holidays. I don't however think this should be a permanent thing, If you constantly help people they become reliant And theres emergency help available when something goes wrong. This is an unprecedented situation and people are finding themselves in a predicament that nobody could have planned for so yes we should help, However when it comes to normal school holidays when things are a little bit more stable then parents on low incomes need to plan to like the rest of us. Apologies but bit of a rant ahead...Don’t think it would ever become a permanent thing but I’m one of those who signed a petition to try to stop MP’s getting free/subsidised allowances of up to £25 a day for food. When they vote against helping the vulnerable, and their average allowance would feed 6 children for the week, it’s so hypocritical. I’m not even in England, but I despise the “I’m alright Hack” attitude I’ve seen, this relates to children! There is no justification to deny them assistance. The children would normally receive the assistance when in school, lockdown means they’re obviously at home and that’s an extra mouth to budget for, without a change to incomings. It’s not an ideal situation, but many parents are struggling. It’s too simplistic to say they shouldn’t have had them if they can’t afford them, as well as the usual accusations of drink, cigarettes and technology. That’s not taking into account loss of employment, furlough (and thus reduced income) the fact that not everyone has addictions or top of the range technology etc. Not everyone who relies on FSM are the long term unemployed. Private renting, due to a lack of social housing impacts on income, as one example of why people struggle. Increase in use of electricity, heating etc, when children are home plays a part. When I was doing my English degree we couldn’t get any assistance as my then husband was working. At one point he was working ten hours a week as, he was a relief project worker, bringing home £50 a week. It didn’t matter that it was so little, we weren’t entitled to help. This may be the reality for some needing help now, thanks to the reliance on zero hour contracts. The amount of friends I have who have lost their jobs as the firms have closed or made cut backs is alarming tbh, and terribly sad x It’s all a sorry mess, and I hope that normality resumes at the earliest possibility, for the children, if for no other reason xx I do understand everything you have said and during lockdown vouches were given because it was an emergency situation that nobody could have planned for and that was the right decision. There are food banks for emergency situations and churches and food banks have been supplying food for children during school holidays for while. However The majority of parents whos children Receive free school meals don't take these offers up and they are well advertised as leaflets get sent out in book bags. And yet food banks were closing locally as they had nothing left, they’ were struggling to help. We also can not say who does and doesn’t take up these offers, as even those who rely on benefits have a sense of pride and so may not advertise the fact they access them. I dread to think how many people do go hungry because of this. My mum works for a homeless organisation and she tells me of people who are literally clinging to their last shred of pride and avoid asking the charity for help, as they already feel embarrassed and a burden. It’s all so sad xx" They have made people ashamed to be on benefits. | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. " Sounds like a plan | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does" Have you been on benefits? | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. " But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does" What about a change in circumstances? Parents who were working who lost their jobs, parents separating, furlough, there is a multitude of reasons, besides they just don’t manage their money properly or shouldn’t have kids. They may be managing their money and coping well, not have any addictions (as often accused) not have expensive material goods (again and accusation) but when an additional outgoing is needed, they may not have extra money to fall back on. In an ideal world everyone would have savings etc, but it’s not always the case xx | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does" what message is giving children food sending? | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. " exactly!! The ones affected by the decision are the children and it’s so sad xx | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending?" 
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending?" that you need not take any responsibility, i know a few people on benifits, and they all think its wrong, just because some millionare footballer says its right doesnt make it right, you may all nor agree with me, but what happens after lockdown, when the meals are nolonger free? | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending? that you need not take any responsibility, i know a few people on benifits, and they all think its wrong, just because some millionare footballer says its right doesnt make it right, you may all nor agree with me, but what happens after lockdown, when the meals are nolonger free?" They all think what is wrong? | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending?" For those who can't afford it... Great... Welfare state will provide a lunch for you. For those who can afford it but choose not to... Don't worry about your responsibilities.... Nanny state will do it for you. | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending? that you need not take any responsibility, i know a few people on benifits, and they all think its wrong, just because some millionare footballer says its right doesnt make it right, you may all nor agree with me, but what happens after lockdown, when the meals are nolonger free?" But isnt that the same argument that underpins/ underpinned the furlough project? These are exceptionally difficult times. | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. exactly!! The ones affected by the decision are the children and it’s so sad xx" I know! And it is heartbreaking that adults are debating this, whether it be in parliament or online  | |||
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"No taxpayers money to left to feed our future generations, the immigrants are receiving it all There's always one! And what immigrants are these then?" two very large hotels were we live both full of illegal immigrants turned up in rubber dinghies on the south coast now shakked up in hotels at taxpayers expense | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. exactly!! The ones affected by the decision are the children and it’s so sad xx I know! And it is heartbreaking that adults are debating this, whether it be in parliament or online "Could not agree more with you - it should not even be up for debate. | |||
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"being on benifits isnt easy, its not ment to be, but you can live on it, if you cant then you need to look at your prioities, ive been there, and it wasnt fun, but it helped when i needed it, we have become a nation of hand out expect everything for nothing. life doesnt work that way" There was a man who lived here who had medical problems. He weighed just over 6 stone and the dwp told him he was fit enough to work. He couldn't walk down the street and his benefits were stopped He ended up in hospital and 6 weeks later he was dead. A nation of hand outs my arse. | |||
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"No taxpayers money to left to feed our future generations, the immigrants are receiving it all There's always one! And what immigrants are these then? two very large hotels were we live both full of illegal immigrants turned up in rubber dinghies on the south coast now shakked up in hotels at taxpayers expense" What do you suggest we do with them? I'm guessing they are waiting to be shipped back. | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending? For those who can't afford it... Great... Welfare state will provide a lunch for you. For those who can afford it but choose not to... Don't worry about your responsibilities.... Nanny state will do it for you. " And who are these people who can afford it and ',choose "mot too? | |||
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" What do you suggest we do with them? I'm guessing they are waiting to be shipped back." Good point - not ever heard anybody come up with a helpful answer. The hatred and division against immigrants which is being fuelled by (some) of the media... it is awful. | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending? that you need not take any responsibility, i know a few people on benifits, and they all think its wrong, just because some millionare footballer says its right doesnt make it right, you may all nor agree with me, but what happens after lockdown, when the meals are nolonger free?" The children will be in school, as normal, and the exceptional circumstances will no longer be an issue. They will return to getting FSM’s and the parents won’t have to find the extra money needed for utilities etc because of the children being home during school hours. Obviously this is a simplistic response, but there is no other answer tbh. These are not normal times xx | |||
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" What do you suggest we do with them? I'm guessing they are waiting to be shipped back. Good point - not ever heard anybody come up with a helpful answer. The hatred and division against immigrants which is being fuelled by (some) of the media... it is awful." Just shows you can shoehorn immigration into any thread. | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending? that you need not take any responsibility, i know a few people on benifits, and they all think its wrong, just because some millionare footballer says its right doesnt make it right, you may all nor agree with me, but what happens after lockdown, when the meals are nolonger free?" I think a community coming together to feed children sends the message that there is a section of society that is willing to help families out without judgement. I think the fact that the person who focussed our attention on this is a millionaire and a footballer is irrelevant. | |||
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"No taxpayers money to left to feed our future generations, the immigrants are receiving it all There's always one! And what immigrants are these then? two very large hotels were we live both full of illegal immigrants turned up in rubber dinghies on the south coast now shakked up in hotels at taxpayers expense What do you suggest we do with them? I'm guessing they are waiting to be shipped back." They arrived here illegally we know little about them, your damn right I want them shipped back | |||
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" What do you suggest we do with them? I'm guessing they are waiting to be shipped back. Good point - not ever heard anybody come up with a helpful answer. The hatred and division against immigrants which is being fuelled by (some) of the media... it is awful. Just shows you can shoehorn immigration into any thread." I agree with you - I do think though, that while immigrants have nothing to do with the topic of feeding the kids, it is a sign of what is smouldering in our society just beneath the surface. | |||
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" I think a community coming together to feed children sends the message that there is a section of society that is willing to help families out without judgement. I think the fact that the person who focussed our attention on this is a millionaire and a footballer is irrelevant. " This exactly! | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending? For those who can't afford it... Great... Welfare state will provide a lunch for you. For those who can afford it but choose not to... Don't worry about your responsibilities.... Nanny state will do it for you. " In your opinion is that reason enough not to provide meals? | |||
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"No taxpayers money to left to feed our future generations, the immigrants are receiving it all There's always one! And what immigrants are these then? two very large hotels were we live both full of illegal immigrants turned up in rubber dinghies on the south coast now shakked up in hotels at taxpayers expense What do you suggest we do with them? I'm guessing they are waiting to be shipped back. They arrived here illegally we know little about them, your damn right I want them shipped back" So..I don't understand...where do you want them kept? | |||
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" What do you suggest we do with them? I'm guessing they are waiting to be shipped back. Good point - not ever heard anybody come up with a helpful answer. The hatred and division against immigrants which is being fuelled by (some) of the media... it is awful. Just shows you can shoehorn immigration into any thread.I agree with you - I do think though, that while immigrants have nothing to do with the topic of feeding the kids, it is a sign of what is smouldering in our society just beneath the surface. " Defo. | |||
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"No taxpayers money to left to feed our future generations, the immigrants are receiving it all There's always one! And what immigrants are these then? two very large hotels were we live both full of illegal immigrants turned up in rubber dinghies on the south coast now shakked up in hotels at taxpayers expense What do you suggest we do with them? I'm guessing they are waiting to be shipped back. They arrived here illegally we know little about them, your damn right I want them shipped back So..I don't understand...where do you want them kept?" A detention centre | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending? that you need not take any responsibility, i know a few people on benifits, and they all think its wrong, just because some millionare footballer says its right doesnt make it right, you may all nor agree with me, but what happens after lockdown, when the meals are nolonger free? They all think what is wrong?" i think thats fairly obvious, most think free meals when not in school is wrong, if you read my post you would see that | |||
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"No taxpayers money to left to feed our future generations, the immigrants are receiving it all There's always one! And what immigrants are these then? two very large hotels were we live both full of illegal immigrants turned up in rubber dinghies on the south coast now shakked up in hotels at taxpayers expense What do you suggest we do with them? I'm guessing they are waiting to be shipped back. They arrived here illegally we know little about them, your damn right I want them shipped back So..I don't understand...where do you want them kept? A detention centre" detention centres are at tax payers expense though  | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending? that you need not take any responsibility, i know a few people on benifits, and they all think its wrong, just because some millionare footballer says its right doesnt make it right, you may all nor agree with me, but what happens after lockdown, when the meals are nolonger free? They all think what is wrong? i think thats fairly obvious, most think free meals when not in school is wrong, if you read my post you would see that" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending? that you need not take any responsibility, i know a few people on benifits, and they all think its wrong, just because some millionare footballer says its right doesnt make it right, you may all nor agree with me, but what happens after lockdown, when the meals are nolonger free? They all think what is wrong? i think thats fairly obvious, most think free meals when not in school is wrong, if you read my post you would see that Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong?" go you are obtuse, no they think that the free school meals are wrong | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending? that you need not take any responsibility, i know a few people on benifits, and they all think its wrong, just because some millionare footballer says its right doesnt make it right, you may all nor agree with me, but what happens after lockdown, when the meals are nolonger free? They all think what is wrong? i think thats fairly obvious, most think free meals when not in school is wrong, if you read my post you would see that Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? go you are obtuse, no they think that the free school meals are wrong" Sorry that's what I meant. So they are on benefits and they are complaining about people on benefits getting free school meals..even though they qualify? That makes no sense. | |||
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending? that you need not take any responsibility, i know a few people on benifits, and they all think its wrong, just because some millionare footballer says its right doesnt make it right, you may all nor agree with me, but what happens after lockdown, when the meals are nolonger free? They all think what is wrong? i think thats fairly obvious, most think free meals when not in school is wrong, if you read my post you would see that Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? go you are obtuse, no they think that the free school meals are wrong" Prisoners get fed at the tax payers expense | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong?" I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. | |||
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"My MP is thinking that no one is worthy of any free hand outs. That has made my blood boil. Mps sit on £134 expenses on top of £90k wages and do nothing " Exactly. I am pleased to see that some have received life bans in certain shops. I saw something today on an MP who voted against feeding the kids... he was banned from hos local sports gear shop. | |||
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"As long as the kids get healthy food, I think the government should pay. There is a problem with obesity in the UK and this could be helped by controlling the diet of children to a certain extent. Healthier kids means less stress on the NHS and those kids will hopefully grow into healthy adults. " | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids." it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it" But I would like to say to this that I , too, know people on benefits who have been trying to get additional food from food banks, tried to shop when food gets reduced at the end of the day, who have had relatives and neighbours step in... they certainly did not disagree with it. They saw it as a lifeline. The point I am making is this : We have all heard of people to support our case but in order to really know what is going on we would need more evidence, would you not think? | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it" Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx " Actually, you are right, thank you for bringing it back - it is divisive and I think the current corona climate has not helped people, including myself, feel more fired up perhaps than we normally would be. I just feel so sad that anybody should have misery in their life, most of all children. But I guess nobody on this thread wants that. xx | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx " its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that | |||
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"All kids get a free meal term time on r 1 and 2 which is not means tested which is crazy! The meals have never been available during hols! Really dont c what has changed on this as if on benefits the money stays same! Obviously no one wants kids to go hungry! Worked for 9 years as a school cook and seen hungry kids! Also worked in a shop and seen kids bring sweets to till with their parents and heard them say (the parent) put them back cant afford those whilst they stood there purchasing ciggies x" Fags are more important than kids | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx " It seems a bit weird that you would be against something that is there to benefit you. | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that" We are one of the richest countries on the planet It's quite simple tbh You either think that in 2020 a wealthy western democracy has kids going hungry is acceptable. Or you dont. | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx It seems a bit weird that you would be against something that is there to benefit you. " its of no benifit to me | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that" You're probably right there. New generation being fed with automatic entitlement. My voice counts, i matter, my opinion has to be heard, my opinion is equality bla bla...i need to post that on my insta, snap, fb, Twitter and my 10k follows all like me
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx It seems a bit weird that you would be against something that is there to benefit you. its of no benifit to me" But you are not on benefits? | |||
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"I fail to understand the debate tbh. The cost of feeding our kids in these exceptionally difficult times pale into insignificance compared to the MP's recently awarded payrises, their expenses etc. The issue is not just an ethical one (I am in full support of no kid should go hungry!) There is the argument that ensuring that children get at least one balanced nutritious meal a day is actually an investment into their (and our) future. I am surprised some of Tories have not grasped that reality" Pretty much this.. Would add that if in the midst of a global pandemic which has had big errors by a government with the enormity of brexit on the horizon that having to do a u turn once on an issue such as this snacks of indifference.. To have not sorted it out whereby it becomes a reminder for some that one of your own once voiced we are seen as the nasty party .. That's negligence.. | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that You're probably right there. New generation being fed with automatic entitlement. My voice counts, i matter, my opinion has to be heard, my opinion is equality bla bla...i need to post that on my insta, snap, fb, Twitter and my 10k follows all like me
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"I fail to understand the debate tbh. The cost of feeding our kids in these exceptionally difficult times pale into insignificance compared to the MP's recently awarded payrises, their expenses etc. The issue is not just an ethical one (I am in full support of no kid should go hungry!) There is the argument that ensuring that children get at least one balanced nutritious meal a day is actually an investment into their (and our) future. I am surprised some of Tories have not grasped that reality Pretty much this.. Would add that if in the midst of a global pandemic which has had big errors by a government with the enormity of brexit on the horizon that having to do a u turn once on an issue such as this snacks of indifference.. To have not sorted it out whereby it becomes a reminder for some that one of your own once voiced we are seen as the nasty party .. That's negligence.." | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx It seems a bit weird that you would be against something that is there to benefit you. its of no benifit to me But you are not on benefits?" no im not, i said i had been, but many years ago, and my tax ive paid since has more than paid that back | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that You're probably right there. New generation being fed with automatic entitlement. My voice counts, i matter, my opinion has to be heard, my opinion is equality bla bla...i need to post that on my insta, snap, fb, Twitter and my 10k follows all like me
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that" I think that applies to many parts of society tbh. Entitled children with titles or money who believe themselves better than others. Not all benefits are income based, so even a millionaire can get disability benefits, and take them as they feel they entitled to it. There are many people from underprivileged backgrounds who don’t see benefits as something they’re entitled to and their future. Aspirations are not class based. I’m one. My parents were on low income, we lived in a council house, but not on benefits (I will admit that) as my mum had three jobs and her husband two. I was a latchkey kid. We often struggled, many of my peers were from benefits households. I had three small jobs myself as a teenager. My ex husband was raised on benefits as his mum and her hubby never worked. He didn’t want that life and didn’t see it as a life choice. I have two degrees, which we worked alongside for me to get, I became a nurse, he returned to college and got his GCSE’s and has never been out of work. Some worries are obviously subjective, but I truly believe that being on benefits as a child doesn’t mean you will be as an adult. But, if you are on benefits, and trying to cope with the challenges this pandemic is causing, I don’t think it’s right that adults argue that it’s right not to help a vulnerable child for £20 a week! | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx It seems a bit weird that you would be against something that is there to benefit you. its of no benifit to me But you are not on benefits? no im not, i said i had been, but many years ago, and my tax ive paid since has more than paid that back" Then you have lost me with the it's no benefit to me comment. | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that You're probably right there. New generation being fed with automatic entitlement. My voice counts, i matter, my opinion has to be heard, my opinion is equality bla bla...i need to post that on my insta, snap, fb, Twitter and my 10k follows all like me
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"Trouble is lot of people saying they cant feed their kids willingly pay £30-£50 a month for a phone contract or £25 for their nails or £10 a day for a packet of fags at end of day if somebody really needs help they should get it but people nee dth get their priorites right first feed kids bills 1st then if any left over all luxury items like phones and sky tv after " Is a phone a luxury? | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that I think that applies to many parts of society tbh. Entitled children with titles or money who believe themselves better than others. Not all benefits are income based, so even a millionaire can get disability benefits, and take them as they feel they entitled to it. There are many people from underprivileged backgrounds who don’t see benefits as something they’re entitled to and their future. Aspirations are not class based. I’m one. My parents were on low income, we lived in a council house, but not on benefits (I will admit that) as my mum had three jobs and her husband two. I was a latchkey kid. We often struggled, many of my peers were from benefits households. I had three small jobs myself as a teenager. My ex husband was raised on benefits as his mum and her hubby never worked. He didn’t want that life and didn’t see it as a life choice. I have two degrees, which we worked alongside for me to get, I became a nurse, he returned to college and got his GCSE’s and has never been out of work. Some worries are obviously subjective, but I truly believe that being on benefits as a child doesn’t mean you will be as an adult. But, if you are on benefits, and trying to cope with the challenges this pandemic is causing, I don’t think it’s right that adults argue that it’s right not to help a vulnerable child for £20 a week! " i agree with everything you say, but 20 a week times, i dont know lets say 1 million, makes 20 million, im sure its more, thats alot of money for a bankrupt country to find, maybe it should be taken out of the parents benifits and given to the food bank or someting , for that child, i dont know, but i know that we are head first falling into a deep hole, and the next generation will be paying for this for decades to come, i have teenage kids, and i worry about thier future, the gov bot was emptied months ago, its all debt now, i agree with benifits for those that need it, but maybe it needs managing better somehow, to ensure the kids get food | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that I think that applies to many parts of society tbh. Entitled children with titles or money who believe themselves better than others. Not all benefits are income based, so even a millionaire can get disability benefits, and take them as they feel they entitled to it. There are many people from underprivileged backgrounds who don’t see benefits as something they’re entitled to and their future. Aspirations are not class based. I’m one. My parents were on low income, we lived in a council house, but not on benefits (I will admit that) as my mum had three jobs and her husband two. I was a latchkey kid. We often struggled, many of my peers were from benefits households. I had three small jobs myself as a teenager. My ex husband was raised on benefits as his mum and her hubby never worked. He didn’t want that life and didn’t see it as a life choice. I have two degrees, which we worked alongside for me to get, I became a nurse, he returned to college and got his GCSE’s and has never been out of work. Some worries are obviously subjective, but I truly believe that being on benefits as a child doesn’t mean you will be as an adult. But, if you are on benefits, and trying to cope with the challenges this pandemic is causing, I don’t think it’s right that adults argue that it’s right not to help a vulnerable child for £20 a week! i agree with everything you say, but 20 a week times, i dont know lets say 1 million, makes 20 million, im sure its more, thats alot of money for a bankrupt country to find, maybe it should be taken out of the parents benifits and given to the food bank or someting , for that child, i dont know, but i know that we are head first falling into a deep hole, and the next generation will be paying for this for decades to come, i have teenage kids, and i worry about thier future, the gov bot was emptied months ago, its all debt now, i agree with benifits for those that need it, but maybe it needs managing better somehow, to ensure the kids get food" When did we become bankrupt? | |||
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"Trouble is lot of people saying they cant feed their kids willingly pay £30-£50 a month for a phone contract or £25 for their nails or £10 a day for a packet of fags at end of day if somebody really needs help they should get it but people nee dth get their priorites right first feed kids bills 1st then if any left over all luxury items like phones and sky tv after Is a phone a luxury?" you can buy a second hand phone for 20 pounds then top up as needed, so yes a contract phone is a luxury | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that I think that applies to many parts of society tbh. Entitled children with titles or money who believe themselves better than others. Not all benefits are income based, so even a millionaire can get disability benefits, and take them as they feel they entitled to it. There are many people from underprivileged backgrounds who don’t see benefits as something they’re entitled to and their future. Aspirations are not class based. I’m one. My parents were on low income, we lived in a council house, but not on benefits (I will admit that) as my mum had three jobs and her husband two. I was a latchkey kid. We often struggled, many of my peers were from benefits households. I had three small jobs myself as a teenager. My ex husband was raised on benefits as his mum and her hubby never worked. He didn’t want that life and didn’t see it as a life choice. I have two degrees, which we worked alongside for me to get, I became a nurse, he returned to college and got his GCSE’s and has never been out of work. Some worries are obviously subjective, but I truly believe that being on benefits as a child doesn’t mean you will be as an adult. But, if you are on benefits, and trying to cope with the challenges this pandemic is causing, I don’t think it’s right that adults argue that it’s right not to help a vulnerable child for £20 a week! i agree with everything you say, but 20 a week times, i dont know lets say 1 million, makes 20 million, im sure its more, thats alot of money for a bankrupt country to find, maybe it should be taken out of the parents benifits and given to the food bank or someting , for that child, i dont know, but i know that we are head first falling into a deep hole, and the next generation will be paying for this for decades to come, i have teenage kids, and i worry about thier future, the gov bot was emptied months ago, its all debt now, i agree with benifits for those that need it, but maybe it needs managing better somehow, to ensure the kids get food When did we become bankrupt?" Morally or fiscally? | |||
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"Trouble is lot of people saying they cant feed their kids willingly pay £30-£50 a month for a phone contract or £25 for their nails or £10 a day for a packet of fags at end of day if somebody really needs help they should get it but people nee dth get their priorites right first feed kids bills 1st then if any left over all luxury items like phones and sky tv after Is a phone a luxury? you can buy a second hand phone for 20 pounds then top up as needed, so yes a contract phone is a luxury" How do you know they all have top of the range phones? It's all anecdotal..oh they spend all their money on nails or ciggies.. its lazy stereotyping.You said yourself being on benefits was a struggle..so how are these people living a life of luxury? Its nonsense. | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that I think that applies to many parts of society tbh. Entitled children with titles or money who believe themselves better than others. Not all benefits are income based, so even a millionaire can get disability benefits, and take them as they feel they entitled to it. There are many people from underprivileged backgrounds who don’t see benefits as something they’re entitled to and their future. Aspirations are not class based. I’m one. My parents were on low income, we lived in a council house, but not on benefits (I will admit that) as my mum had three jobs and her husband two. I was a latchkey kid. We often struggled, many of my peers were from benefits households. I had three small jobs myself as a teenager. My ex husband was raised on benefits as his mum and her hubby never worked. He didn’t want that life and didn’t see it as a life choice. I have two degrees, which we worked alongside for me to get, I became a nurse, he returned to college and got his GCSE’s and has never been out of work. Some worries are obviously subjective, but I truly believe that being on benefits as a child doesn’t mean you will be as an adult. But, if you are on benefits, and trying to cope with the challenges this pandemic is causing, I don’t think it’s right that adults argue that it’s right not to help a vulnerable child for £20 a week! i agree with everything you say, but 20 a week times, i dont know lets say 1 million, makes 20 million, im sure its more, thats alot of money for a bankrupt country to find, maybe it should be taken out of the parents benifits and given to the food bank or someting , for that child, i dont know, but i know that we are head first falling into a deep hole, and the next generation will be paying for this for decades to come, i have teenage kids, and i worry about thier future, the gov bot was emptied months ago, its all debt now, i agree with benifits for those that need it, but maybe it needs managing better somehow, to ensure the kids get food When did we become bankrupt? Morally or fiscally? " Morally a long time ago. Fiscally, someone should tell that clown,as he has just spanked millions on a fucking train that can get you to london 5 mins quicker. | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. " The problem is that the same parents who don't prioritise nutritional food are the same parents being given the £15 a week per child for lunches in school holidays. So are they going to spend the vouchers on nutritional food?. We offered parents food parcels for half term and 23 out of 68 asked for money instead. | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that I think that applies to many parts of society tbh. Entitled children with titles or money who believe themselves better than others. Not all benefits are income based, so even a millionaire can get disability benefits, and take them as they feel they entitled to it. There are many people from underprivileged backgrounds who don’t see benefits as something they’re entitled to and their future. Aspirations are not class based. I’m one. My parents were on low income, we lived in a council house, but not on benefits (I will admit that) as my mum had three jobs and her husband two. I was a latchkey kid. We often struggled, many of my peers were from benefits households. I had three small jobs myself as a teenager. My ex husband was raised on benefits as his mum and her hubby never worked. He didn’t want that life and didn’t see it as a life choice. I have two degrees, which we worked alongside for me to get, I became a nurse, he returned to college and got his GCSE’s and has never been out of work. Some worries are obviously subjective, but I truly believe that being on benefits as a child doesn’t mean you will be as an adult. But, if you are on benefits, and trying to cope with the challenges this pandemic is causing, I don’t think it’s right that adults argue that it’s right not to help a vulnerable child for £20 a week! i agree with everything you say, but 20 a week times, i dont know lets say 1 million, makes 20 million, im sure its more, thats alot of money for a bankrupt country to find, maybe it should be taken out of the parents benifits and given to the food bank or someting , for that child, i dont know, but i know that we are head first falling into a deep hole, and the next generation will be paying for this for decades to come, i have teenage kids, and i worry about thier future, the gov bot was emptied months ago, its all debt now, i agree with benifits for those that need it, but maybe it needs managing better somehow, to ensure the kids get food" That’s why I signed the petition to stop MP’s receiving £25 food allowance a day. Money is being wasted and pigeon holed for the wrong things, and wasted in many circumstances- that applies to everyone. I just hope that all those stating they have no money- from some parents on benefits to the government- manage money better so children never face this again, and a decent contingency plan is in place xx | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that I think that applies to many parts of society tbh. Entitled children with titles or money who believe themselves better than others. Not all benefits are income based, so even a millionaire can get disability benefits, and take them as they feel they entitled to it. There are many people from underprivileged backgrounds who don’t see benefits as something they’re entitled to and their future. Aspirations are not class based. I’m one. My parents were on low income, we lived in a council house, but not on benefits (I will admit that) as my mum had three jobs and her husband two. I was a latchkey kid. We often struggled, many of my peers were from benefits households. I had three small jobs myself as a teenager. My ex husband was raised on benefits as his mum and her hubby never worked. He didn’t want that life and didn’t see it as a life choice. I have two degrees, which we worked alongside for me to get, I became a nurse, he returned to college and got his GCSE’s and has never been out of work. Some worries are obviously subjective, but I truly believe that being on benefits as a child doesn’t mean you will be as an adult. But, if you are on benefits, and trying to cope with the challenges this pandemic is causing, I don’t think it’s right that adults argue that it’s right not to help a vulnerable child for £20 a week! i agree with everything you say, but 20 a week times, i dont know lets say 1 million, makes 20 million, im sure its more, thats alot of money for a bankrupt country to find, maybe it should be taken out of the parents benifits and given to the food bank or someting , for that child, i dont know, but i know that we are head first falling into a deep hole, and the next generation will be paying for this for decades to come, i have teenage kids, and i worry about thier future, the gov bot was emptied months ago, its all debt now, i agree with benifits for those that need it, but maybe it needs managing better somehow, to ensure the kids get food When did we become bankrupt? Morally or fiscally? Morally a long time ago. Fiscally, someone should tell that clown,as he has just spanked millions on a fucking train that can get you to london 5 mins quicker." Its not 5 mins it will cut hours of journeys and create many jobs. It will also mean companies can move out of London yet still have a fast connection. Half of Europe and the far east have gone down the same route with high speed connections. | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. The problem is that the same parents who don't prioritise nutritional food are the same parents being given the £15 a week per child for lunches in school holidays. So are they going to spend the vouchers on nutritional food?. We offered parents food parcels for half term and 23 out of 68 asked for money instead. " sums it up sadly | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that I think that applies to many parts of society tbh. Entitled children with titles or money who believe themselves better than others. Not all benefits are income based, so even a millionaire can get disability benefits, and take them as they feel they entitled to it. There are many people from underprivileged backgrounds who don’t see benefits as something they’re entitled to and their future. Aspirations are not class based. I’m one. My parents were on low income, we lived in a council house, but not on benefits (I will admit that) as my mum had three jobs and her husband two. I was a latchkey kid. We often struggled, many of my peers were from benefits households. I had three small jobs myself as a teenager. My ex husband was raised on benefits as his mum and her hubby never worked. He didn’t want that life and didn’t see it as a life choice. I have two degrees, which we worked alongside for me to get, I became a nurse, he returned to college and got his GCSE’s and has never been out of work. Some worries are obviously subjective, but I truly believe that being on benefits as a child doesn’t mean you will be as an adult. But, if you are on benefits, and trying to cope with the challenges this pandemic is causing, I don’t think it’s right that adults argue that it’s right not to help a vulnerable child for £20 a week! i agree with everything you say, but 20 a week times, i dont know lets say 1 million, makes 20 million, im sure its more, thats alot of money for a bankrupt country to find, maybe it should be taken out of the parents benifits and given to the food bank or someting , for that child, i dont know, but i know that we are head first falling into a deep hole, and the next generation will be paying for this for decades to come, i have teenage kids, and i worry about thier future, the gov bot was emptied months ago, its all debt now, i agree with benifits for those that need it, but maybe it needs managing better somehow, to ensure the kids get food That’s why I signed the petition to stop MP’s receiving £25 food allowance a day. Money is being wasted and pigeon holed for the wrong things, and wasted in many circumstances- that applies to everyone. I just hope that all those stating they have no money- from some parents on benefits to the government- manage money better so children never face this again, and a decent contingency plan is in place xx" They need to look at structural poverty. For the 1st time in 100 years life expectancy is going down in certain parts of the country and infant mortality is going up, Id like to see how that can be blamed on the feckless? | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that I think that applies to many parts of society tbh. Entitled children with titles or money who believe themselves better than others. Not all benefits are income based, so even a millionaire can get disability benefits, and take them as they feel they entitled to it. There are many people from underprivileged backgrounds who don’t see benefits as something they’re entitled to and their future. Aspirations are not class based. I’m one. My parents were on low income, we lived in a council house, but not on benefits (I will admit that) as my mum had three jobs and her husband two. I was a latchkey kid. We often struggled, many of my peers were from benefits households. I had three small jobs myself as a teenager. My ex husband was raised on benefits as his mum and her hubby never worked. He didn’t want that life and didn’t see it as a life choice. I have two degrees, which we worked alongside for me to get, I became a nurse, he returned to college and got his GCSE’s and has never been out of work. Some worries are obviously subjective, but I truly believe that being on benefits as a child doesn’t mean you will be as an adult. But, if you are on benefits, and trying to cope with the challenges this pandemic is causing, I don’t think it’s right that adults argue that it’s right not to help a vulnerable child for £20 a week! i agree with everything you say, but 20 a week times, i dont know lets say 1 million, makes 20 million, im sure its more, thats alot of money for a bankrupt country to find, maybe it should be taken out of the parents benifits and given to the food bank or someting , for that child, i dont know, but i know that we are head first falling into a deep hole, and the next generation will be paying for this for decades to come, i have teenage kids, and i worry about thier future, the gov bot was emptied months ago, its all debt now, i agree with benifits for those that need it, but maybe it needs managing better somehow, to ensure the kids get food When did we become bankrupt? Morally or fiscally? Morally a long time ago. Fiscally, someone should tell that clown,as he has just spanked millions on a fucking train that can get you to london 5 mins quicker. Its not 5 mins it will cut hours of journeys and create many jobs. It will also mean companies can move out of London yet still have a fast connection. Half of Europe and the far east have gone down the same route with high speed connections. " So we arent bankrupt then? | |||
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"Trouble is lot of people saying they cant feed their kids willingly pay £30-£50 a month for a phone contract or £25 for their nails or £10 a day for a packet of fags at end of day if somebody really needs help they should get it but people nee dth get their priorites right first feed kids bills 1st then if any left over all luxury items like phones and sky tv after Is a phone a luxury? you can buy a second hand phone for 20 pounds then top up as needed, so yes a contract phone is a luxury How do you know they all have top of the range phones? It's all anecdotal..oh they spend all their money on nails or ciggies.. its lazy stereotyping.You said yourself being on benefits was a struggle..so how are these people living a life of luxury? Its nonsense." the only benifit i took was jsa, and it wasnt much, and thankfully not for long before i found work, but i never needed food banks or free meals in the holidays for my kids, i prioritised them and went without, fair enough, i couldnt afford luxuries so didnt have any, i didnt even have a phone, there are still phone boxes if you look hard enough lol. | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that I think that applies to many parts of society tbh. Entitled children with titles or money who believe themselves better than others. Not all benefits are income based, so even a millionaire can get disability benefits, and take them as they feel they entitled to it. There are many people from underprivileged backgrounds who don’t see benefits as something they’re entitled to and their future. Aspirations are not class based. I’m one. My parents were on low income, we lived in a council house, but not on benefits (I will admit that) as my mum had three jobs and her husband two. I was a latchkey kid. We often struggled, many of my peers were from benefits households. I had three small jobs myself as a teenager. My ex husband was raised on benefits as his mum and her hubby never worked. He didn’t want that life and didn’t see it as a life choice. I have two degrees, which we worked alongside for me to get, I became a nurse, he returned to college and got his GCSE’s and has never been out of work. Some worries are obviously subjective, but I truly believe that being on benefits as a child doesn’t mean you will be as an adult. But, if you are on benefits, and trying to cope with the challenges this pandemic is causing, I don’t think it’s right that adults argue that it’s right not to help a vulnerable child for £20 a week! i agree with everything you say, but 20 a week times, i dont know lets say 1 million, makes 20 million, im sure its more, thats alot of money for a bankrupt country to find, maybe it should be taken out of the parents benifits and given to the food bank or someting , for that child, i dont know, but i know that we are head first falling into a deep hole, and the next generation will be paying for this for decades to come, i have teenage kids, and i worry about thier future, the gov bot was emptied months ago, its all debt now, i agree with benifits for those that need it, but maybe it needs managing better somehow, to ensure the kids get food When did we become bankrupt? Morally or fiscally? Morally a long time ago. Fiscally, someone should tell that clown,as he has just spanked millions on a fucking train that can get you to london 5 mins quicker. Its not 5 mins it will cut hours of journeys and create many jobs. It will also mean companies can move out of London yet still have a fast connection. Half of Europe and the far east have gone down the same route with high speed connections. So we arent bankrupt then?" You must have been asleep a decade the loony left didn't get in and fritter all the cash away. | |||
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"Trouble is lot of people saying they cant feed their kids willingly pay £30-£50 a month for a phone contract or £25 for their nails or £10 a day for a packet of fags at end of day if somebody really needs help they should get it but people nee dth get their priorites right first feed kids bills 1st then if any left over all luxury items like phones and sky tv after Is a phone a luxury? you can buy a second hand phone for 20 pounds then top up as needed, so yes a contract phone is a luxury How do you know they all have top of the range phones? It's all anecdotal..oh they spend all their money on nails or ciggies.. its lazy stereotyping.You said yourself being on benefits was a struggle..so how are these people living a life of luxury? Its nonsense. the only benifit i took was jsa, and it wasnt much, and thankfully not for long before i found work, but i never needed food banks or free meals in the holidays for my kids, i prioritised them and went without, fair enough, i couldnt afford luxuries so didnt have any, i didnt even have a phone, there are still phone boxes if you look hard enough lol." so if you managed to feed your kids without huge handouts why are others struggling and supposedly thousands starving? | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. " This , this and this.....too many people focusing on the parents, focus on the kids its not their fault their parents aren't fit for fuck all and prioritise other things in life, that kid as no control over anything...funny how people who can't see that side of things and whinge about its up to the parents support a certain party | |||
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"Trouble is lot of people saying they cant feed their kids willingly pay £30-£50 a month for a phone contract or £25 for their nails or £10 a day for a packet of fags at end of day if somebody really needs help they should get it but people nee dth get their priorites right first feed kids bills 1st then if any left over all luxury items like phones and sky tv after Is a phone a luxury? you can buy a second hand phone for 20 pounds then top up as needed, so yes a contract phone is a luxury How do you know they all have top of the range phones? It's all anecdotal..oh they spend all their money on nails or ciggies.. its lazy stereotyping.You said yourself being on benefits was a struggle..so how are these people living a life of luxury? Its nonsense. the only benifit i took was jsa, and it wasnt much, and thankfully not for long before i found work, but i never needed food banks or free meals in the holidays for my kids, i prioritised them and went without, fair enough, i couldnt afford luxuries so didnt have any, i didnt even have a phone, there are still phone boxes if you look hard enough lol. so if you managed to feed your kids without huge handouts why are others struggling and supposedly thousands starving? " my point exactly | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that I think that applies to many parts of society tbh. Entitled children with titles or money who believe themselves better than others. Not all benefits are income based, so even a millionaire can get disability benefits, and take them as they feel they entitled to it. There are many people from underprivileged backgrounds who don’t see benefits as something they’re entitled to and their future. Aspirations are not class based. I’m one. My parents were on low income, we lived in a council house, but not on benefits (I will admit that) as my mum had three jobs and her husband two. I was a latchkey kid. We often struggled, many of my peers were from benefits households. I had three small jobs myself as a teenager. My ex husband was raised on benefits as his mum and her hubby never worked. He didn’t want that life and didn’t see it as a life choice. I have two degrees, which we worked alongside for me to get, I became a nurse, he returned to college and got his GCSE’s and has never been out of work. Some worries are obviously subjective, but I truly believe that being on benefits as a child doesn’t mean you will be as an adult. But, if you are on benefits, and trying to cope with the challenges this pandemic is causing, I don’t think it’s right that adults argue that it’s right not to help a vulnerable child for £20 a week! i agree with everything you say, but 20 a week times, i dont know lets say 1 million, makes 20 million, im sure its more, thats alot of money for a bankrupt country to find, maybe it should be taken out of the parents benifits and given to the food bank or someting , for that child, i dont know, but i know that we are head first falling into a deep hole, and the next generation will be paying for this for decades to come, i have teenage kids, and i worry about thier future, the gov bot was emptied months ago, its all debt now, i agree with benifits for those that need it, but maybe it needs managing better somehow, to ensure the kids get food When did we become bankrupt? Morally or fiscally? Morally a long time ago. Fiscally, someone should tell that clown,as he has just spanked millions on a fucking train that can get you to london 5 mins quicker. Its not 5 mins it will cut hours of journeys and create many jobs. It will also mean companies can move out of London yet still have a fast connection. Half of Europe and the far east have gone down the same route with high speed connections. So we arent bankrupt then? You must have been asleep a decade the loony left didn't get in and fritter all the cash away." I suggest you go and look up Serco and cost Then maybe Google ppi and contracts. Then maybe liverpool hospital and carillion. Then maybe you will reappraisal what a "loony'is. | |||
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"Trouble is lot of people saying they cant feed their kids willingly pay £30-£50 a month for a phone contract or £25 for their nails or £10 a day for a packet of fags at end of day if somebody really needs help they should get it but people nee dth get their priorites right first feed kids bills 1st then if any left over all luxury items like phones and sky tv after Is a phone a luxury? you can buy a second hand phone for 20 pounds then top up as needed, so yes a contract phone is a luxury How do you know they all have top of the range phones? It's all anecdotal..oh they spend all their money on nails or ciggies.. its lazy stereotyping.You said yourself being on benefits was a struggle..so how are these people living a life of luxury? Its nonsense. the only benifit i took was jsa, and it wasnt much, and thankfully not for long before i found work, but i never needed food banks or free meals in the holidays for my kids, i prioritised them and went without, fair enough, i couldnt afford luxuries so didnt have any, i didnt even have a phone, there are still phone boxes if you look hard enough lol. so if you managed to feed your kids without huge handouts why are others struggling and supposedly thousands starving? " Probally because everyones circumstances are different. That's just a hunch though. | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. The problem is that the same parents who don't prioritise nutritional food are the same parents being given the £15 a week per child for lunches in school holidays. So are they going to spend the vouchers on nutritional food?. We offered parents food parcels for half term and 23 out of 68 asked for money instead. " I concur, regardless of whether the parents are feckless or not that is not the childs fault. The child shouldn't suffer regardless.... I used to work for Surestart and ran classes for parents and young Mums, I taught childcare, budgeting and cooking skills. Great initiative until they pulled the funding, education not vilification is the key. This is about offering the most vulnerable in our society a basic human need.... Prisoners eat for free, why can't children | |||
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"Trouble is lot of people saying they cant feed their kids willingly pay £30-£50 a month for a phone contract or £25 for their nails or £10 a day for a packet of fags at end of day if somebody really needs help they should get it but people nee dth get their priorites right first feed kids bills 1st then if any left over all luxury items like phones and sky tv after Is a phone a luxury? you can buy a second hand phone for 20 pounds then top up as needed, so yes a contract phone is a luxury How do you know they all have top of the range phones? It's all anecdotal..oh they spend all their money on nails or ciggies.. its lazy stereotyping.You said yourself being on benefits was a struggle..so how are these people living a life of luxury? Its nonsense. the only benifit i took was jsa, and it wasnt much, and thankfully not for long before i found work, but i never needed food banks or free meals in the holidays for my kids, i prioritised them and went without, fair enough, i couldnt afford luxuries so didnt have any, i didnt even have a phone, there are still phone boxes if you look hard enough lol." So foodbanks are unnecessary? | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. The problem is that the same parents who don't prioritise nutritional food are the same parents being given the £15 a week per child for lunches in school holidays. So are they going to spend the vouchers on nutritional food?. We offered parents food parcels for half term and 23 out of 68 asked for money instead. I concur, regardless of whether the parents are feckless or not that is not the childs fault. The child shouldn't suffer regardless.... I used to work for Surestart and ran classes for parents and young Mums, I taught childcare, budgeting and cooking skills. Great initiative until they pulled the funding, education not vilification is the key. This is about offering the most vulnerable in our society a basic human need.... Prisoners eat for free, why can't children" A great scheme designed to help people become more sustainable and it gets pulled. That tells you all you need to know. | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that I think that applies to many parts of society tbh. Entitled children with titles or money who believe themselves better than others. Not all benefits are income based, so even a millionaire can get disability benefits, and take them as they feel they entitled to it. There are many people from underprivileged backgrounds who don’t see benefits as something they’re entitled to and their future. Aspirations are not class based. I’m one. My parents were on low income, we lived in a council house, but not on benefits (I will admit that) as my mum had three jobs and her husband two. I was a latchkey kid. We often struggled, many of my peers were from benefits households. I had three small jobs myself as a teenager. My ex husband was raised on benefits as his mum and her hubby never worked. He didn’t want that life and didn’t see it as a life choice. I have two degrees, which we worked alongside for me to get, I became a nurse, he returned to college and got his GCSE’s and has never been out of work. Some worries are obviously subjective, but I truly believe that being on benefits as a child doesn’t mean you will be as an adult. But, if you are on benefits, and trying to cope with the challenges this pandemic is causing, I don’t think it’s right that adults argue that it’s right not to help a vulnerable child for £20 a week! i agree with everything you say, but 20 a week times, i dont know lets say 1 million, makes 20 million, im sure its more, thats alot of money for a bankrupt country to find, maybe it should be taken out of the parents benifits and given to the food bank or someting , for that child, i dont know, but i know that we are head first falling into a deep hole, and the next generation will be paying for this for decades to come, i have teenage kids, and i worry about thier future, the gov bot was emptied months ago, its all debt now, i agree with benifits for those that need it, but maybe it needs managing better somehow, to ensure the kids get food When did we become bankrupt? Morally or fiscally? Morally a long time ago. Fiscally, someone should tell that clown,as he has just spanked millions on a fucking train that can get you to london 5 mins quicker. Its not 5 mins it will cut hours of journeys and create many jobs. It will also mean companies can move out of London yet still have a fast connection. Half of Europe and the far east have gone down the same route with high speed connections. So we arent bankrupt then? You must have been asleep a decade the loony left didn't get in and fritter all the cash away. I suggest you go and look up Serco and cost Then maybe Google ppi and contracts. Then maybe liverpool hospital and carillion. Then maybe you will reappraisal what a "loony'is." What was it 5 mins saved you stated? I will wait till you learn the concept of using google before suggesting others do. As per norm the loony left haven't a clue. | |||
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"Man on 65k a yr..for kicking a leather bag around while wearing shorts n t shirt. Nurse here work long hrs just to survive. I wouldnt say live.. Perhaps footballers n mps should live on my wages for a few weeks then money saved could go to those in need. " Your wages are determined by the government who are stingy fuckers when it comes to pay rises for worthy people like yourself ....but footballers are paid that wage because the money is poured into the premier league from sky, sponsors etc because its the biggest sport in the world, them billions trickle down to the clubs and then down to the players, most players also do a lot for charity...also by the way Marcus Rushford is probably on about 300 grand a week not 65k a year ..he thoroughly deserves it for what he is doing and that is coming from a Liverpool fan | |||
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" Most of the people on benefits think feeding their own kids at half term is wrong? I would also like to see the research on this... how many people on benefit were asked if they are against their kids being fed in these diffiuclt times. Ideally from a reputable source, not tabloids. it was just from people i know, not tabloids, so real people who are on benifits, ok not a huge amount, but it seems to be , only from what ive heard from those people, the view of many, yes second hand, but its the only avenue i have, but to me it speaks spades that those that i know on the lowest income dont agree with it Could it also be that they are embarrassed to say they agree with it, so follow the status quo of those they’re talking to? Obviously you know them so they could very well be against it. Simply playing devils advocate and no offence intended, but this topic is so divisive xx its very possible, what you say, i can only go by what ive seen and heard, im not intending to upset anyone, just opening up the debate. the main worry i have is that the next generation will have been brought up with the idea that they dont have to fend for them selves, and not that the state is there for either emergancies, or those that really need it. as a nation we cant aford that I think that applies to many parts of society tbh. Entitled children with titles or money who believe themselves better than others. Not all benefits are income based, so even a millionaire can get disability benefits, and take them as they feel they entitled to it. There are many people from underprivileged backgrounds who don’t see benefits as something they’re entitled to and their future. Aspirations are not class based. I’m one. My parents were on low income, we lived in a council house, but not on benefits (I will admit that) as my mum had three jobs and her husband two. I was a latchkey kid. We often struggled, many of my peers were from benefits households. I had three small jobs myself as a teenager. My ex husband was raised on benefits as his mum and her hubby never worked. He didn’t want that life and didn’t see it as a life choice. I have two degrees, which we worked alongside for me to get, I became a nurse, he returned to college and got his GCSE’s and has never been out of work. Some worries are obviously subjective, but I truly believe that being on benefits as a child doesn’t mean you will be as an adult. But, if you are on benefits, and trying to cope with the challenges this pandemic is causing, I don’t think it’s right that adults argue that it’s right not to help a vulnerable child for £20 a week! i agree with everything you say, but 20 a week times, i dont know lets say 1 million, makes 20 million, im sure its more, thats alot of money for a bankrupt country to find, maybe it should be taken out of the parents benifits and given to the food bank or someting , for that child, i dont know, but i know that we are head first falling into a deep hole, and the next generation will be paying for this for decades to come, i have teenage kids, and i worry about thier future, the gov bot was emptied months ago, its all debt now, i agree with benifits for those that need it, but maybe it needs managing better somehow, to ensure the kids get food When did we become bankrupt? Morally or fiscally? Morally a long time ago. Fiscally, someone should tell that clown,as he has just spanked millions on a fucking train that can get you to london 5 mins quicker. Its not 5 mins it will cut hours of journeys and create many jobs. It will also mean companies can move out of London yet still have a fast connection. Half of Europe and the far east have gone down the same route with high speed connections. So we arent bankrupt then? You must have been asleep a decade the loony left didn't get in and fritter all the cash away. I suggest you go and look up Serco and cost Then maybe Google ppi and contracts. Then maybe liverpool hospital and carillion. Then maybe you will reappraisal what a "loony'is. What was it 5 mins saved you stated? I will wait till you learn the concept of using google before suggesting others do. As per norm the loony left haven't a clue. " Brilliant. | |||
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"Trouble is lot of people saying they cant feed their kids willingly pay £30-£50 a month for a phone contract or £25 for their nails or £10 a day for a packet of fags at end of day if somebody really needs help they should get it but people nee dth get their priorites right first feed kids bills 1st then if any left over all luxury items like phones and sky tv after Is a phone a luxury? you can buy a second hand phone for 20 pounds then top up as needed, so yes a contract phone is a luxury How do you know they all have top of the range phones? It's all anecdotal..oh they spend all their money on nails or ciggies.. its lazy stereotyping.You said yourself being on benefits was a struggle..so how are these people living a life of luxury? Its nonsense. the only benifit i took was jsa, and it wasnt much, and thankfully not for long before i found work, but i never needed food banks or free meals in the holidays for my kids, i prioritised them and went without, fair enough, i couldnt afford luxuries so didnt have any, i didnt even have a phone, there are still phone boxes if you look hard enough lol. So foodbanks are unnecessary?" dont remember saying that, but if you budget properly then they should be | |||
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"Trouble is lot of people saying they cant feed their kids willingly pay £30-£50 a month for a phone contract or £25 for their nails or £10 a day for a packet of fags at end of day if somebody really needs help they should get it but people nee dth get their priorites right first feed kids bills 1st then if any left over all luxury items like phones and sky tv after Is a phone a luxury? you can buy a second hand phone for 20 pounds then top up as needed, so yes a contract phone is a luxury How do you know they all have top of the range phones? It's all anecdotal..oh they spend all their money on nails or ciggies.. its lazy stereotyping.You said yourself being on benefits was a struggle..so how are these people living a life of luxury? Its nonsense. the only benifit i took was jsa, and it wasnt much, and thankfully not for long before i found work, but i never needed food banks or free meals in the holidays for my kids, i prioritised them and went without, fair enough, i couldnt afford luxuries so didnt have any, i didnt even have a phone, there are still phone boxes if you look hard enough lol. So foodbanks are unnecessary? dont remember saying that, but if you budget properly then they should be" Words fail me. | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. This , this and this.....too many people focusing on the parents, focus on the kids its not their fault their parents aren't fit for fuck all and prioritise other things in life, that kid as no control over anything...funny how people who can't see that side of things and whinge about its up to the parents support a certain party " I know! So sad isn't it As a society we have a duty to care for the most vulnerable....
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. This , this and this.....too many people focusing on the parents, focus on the kids its not their fault their parents aren't fit for fuck all and prioritise other things in life, that kid as no control over anything...funny how people who can't see that side of things and whinge about its up to the parents support a certain party I know! So sad isn't it As a society we have a duty to care for the most vulnerable....
To turn it around Safeguarding children is everyones duty of care....But only when the parents fit the sociological ideal it seems"So you are saying the issue is badly educated parents wasting the money they do receive rather than the government? | |||
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"Man on 65k a yr..for kicking a leather bag around while wearing shorts n t shirt. Nurse here work long hrs just to survive. I wouldnt say live.. Perhaps footballers n mps should live on my wages for a few weeks then money saved could go to those in need. Your wages are determined by the government who are stingy fuckers when it comes to pay rises for worthy people like yourself ....but footballers are paid that wage because the money is poured into the premier league from sky, sponsors etc because its the biggest sport in the world, them billions trickle down to the clubs and then down to the players, most players also do a lot for charity...also by the way Marcus Rushford is probably on about 300 grand a week not 65k a year ..he thoroughly deserves it for what he is doing and that is coming from a Liverpool fan" hate to say but football is no way the biggest sport in the world buy a long way, motorsport is, it employs more directly or indirectly than any other sport in the world, and in the uk, its huge, employs more than most other sectors | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. This , this and this.....too many people focusing on the parents, focus on the kids its not their fault their parents aren't fit for fuck all and prioritise other things in life, that kid as no control over anything...funny how people who can't see that side of things and whinge about its up to the parents support a certain party I know! So sad isn't it As a society we have a duty to care for the most vulnerable....
To turn it around Safeguarding children is everyones duty of care....But only when the parents fit the sociological ideal it seems
So you are saying the issue is badly educated parents wasting the money they do receive rather than the government?"She isnt saying that in the slightest. | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. This , this and this.....too many people focusing on the parents, focus on the kids its not their fault their parents aren't fit for fuck all and prioritise other things in life, that kid as no control over anything...funny how people who can't see that side of things and whinge about its up to the parents support a certain party I know! So sad isn't it As a society we have a duty to care for the most vulnerable....
To turn it around Safeguarding children is everyones duty of care....But only when the parents fit the sociological ideal it seems
So you are saying the issue is badly educated parents wasting the money they do receive rather than the government?"Did I say parents were badly educated? Read it again.... | |||
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"Trouble is lot of people saying they cant feed their kids willingly pay £30-£50 a month for a phone contract or £25 for their nails or £10 a day for a packet of fags at end of day if somebody really needs help they should get it but people nee dth get their priorites right first feed kids bills 1st then if any left over all luxury items like phones and sky tv after Is a phone a luxury? you can buy a second hand phone for 20 pounds then top up as needed, so yes a contract phone is a luxury How do you know they all have top of the range phones? It's all anecdotal..oh they spend all their money on nails or ciggies.. its lazy stereotyping.You said yourself being on benefits was a struggle..so how are these people living a life of luxury? Its nonsense." | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. This , this and this.....too many people focusing on the parents, focus on the kids its not their fault their parents aren't fit for fuck all and prioritise other things in life, that kid as no control over anything...funny how people who can't see that side of things and whinge about its up to the parents support a certain party I know! So sad isn't it As a society we have a duty to care for the most vulnerable....
To turn it around Safeguarding children is everyones duty of care....But only when the parents fit the sociological ideal it seems
So you are saying the issue is badly educated parents wasting the money they do receive rather than the government?
She isnt saying that in the slightest."Thank you. Glad my post makes sense to someone | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. The problem is that the same parents who don't prioritise nutritional food are the same parents being given the £15 a week per child for lunches in school holidays. So are they going to spend the vouchers on nutritional food?. We offered parents food parcels for half term and 23 out of 68 asked for money instead. I concur, regardless of whether the parents are feckless or not that is not the childs fault. The child shouldn't suffer regardless.... I used to work for Surestart and ran classes for parents and young Mums, I taught childcare, budgeting and cooking skills. Great initiative until they pulled the funding, education not vilification is the key. This is about offering the most vulnerable in our society a basic human need.... Prisoners eat for free, why can't children" Well said...its about the kids not the parents, I don't see how anyone can't see that | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. This , this and this.....too many people focusing on the parents, focus on the kids its not their fault their parents aren't fit for fuck all and prioritise other things in life, that kid as no control over anything...funny how people who can't see that side of things and whinge about its up to the parents support a certain party I know! So sad isn't it As a society we have a duty to care for the most vulnerable....
To turn it around Safeguarding children is everyones duty of care....But only when the parents fit the sociological ideal it seems
So you are saying the issue is badly educated parents wasting the money they do receive rather than the government?
She isnt saying that in the slightest."I know you haven't worked how to google yet but try reading what she put earlier about educating parents. Its clear you are upset at being schooled but you really do need to read a thread fully. | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. This , this and this.....too many people focusing on the parents, focus on the kids its not their fault their parents aren't fit for fuck all and prioritise other things in life, that kid as no control over anything...funny how people who can't see that side of things and whinge about its up to the parents support a certain party I know! So sad isn't it As a society we have a duty to care for the most vulnerable....
To turn it around Safeguarding children is everyones duty of care....But only when the parents fit the sociological ideal it seems
So you are saying the issue is badly educated parents wasting the money they do receive rather than the government?
She isnt saying that in the slightest.
Thank you. Glad my post makes sense to someone"Now didn't you say earlier on this thread that it was down to parents being educated? Did you have your profile hacked and someone else put that up??? | |||
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"Man on 65k a yr..for kicking a leather bag around while wearing shorts n t shirt. Nurse here work long hrs just to survive. I wouldnt say live.. Perhaps footballers n mps should live on my wages for a few weeks then money saved could go to those in need. Your wages are determined by the government who are stingy fuckers when it comes to pay rises for worthy people like yourself ....but footballers are paid that wage because the money is poured into the premier league from sky, sponsors etc because its the biggest sport in the world, them billions trickle down to the clubs and then down to the players, most players also do a lot for charity...also by the way Marcus Rushford is probably on about 300 grand a week not 65k a year ..he thoroughly deserves it for what he is doing and that is coming from a Liverpool fan hate to say but football is no way the biggest sport in the world buy a long way, motorsport is, it employs more directly or indirectly than any other sport in the world, and in the uk, its huge, employs more than most other sectors" Motorsport is more popular than football haha yeah ok I'll agree motorsport attracts a lot of money and sponsors but isn't a patch on football Type in on Google...what is the most popular sport in the world? | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. This , this and this.....too many people focusing on the parents, focus on the kids its not their fault their parents aren't fit for fuck all and prioritise other things in life, that kid as no control over anything...funny how people who can't see that side of things and whinge about its up to the parents support a certain party I know! So sad isn't it As a society we have a duty to care for the most vulnerable....
To turn it around Safeguarding children is everyones duty of care....But only when the parents fit the sociological ideal it seems
So you are saying the issue is badly educated parents wasting the money they do receive rather than the government?
She isnt saying that in the slightest.
I know you haven't worked how to google yet but try reading what she put earlier about educating parents.
Its clear you are upset at being schooled but you really do need to read a thread fully. "I said 'education is key' not 'badly educated parents' I never mentioned 'parents wasting government money' either. So not quite sure how you say he read the thread wrongly? Whatever you perceive my post the fundamental line is 'let the kids eat' Maybe look at the holistic context of my post before cherrypicking parts of it | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. The problem is that the same parents who don't prioritise nutritional food are the same parents being given the £15 a week per child for lunches in school holidays. So are they going to spend the vouchers on nutritional food?. We offered parents food parcels for half term and 23 out of 68 asked for money instead. I concur, regardless of whether the parents are feckless or not that is not the childs fault. The child shouldn't suffer regardless.... I used to work for Surestart and ran classes for parents and young Mums, I taught childcare, budgeting and cooking skills. Great initiative until they pulled the funding, education not vilification is the key. This is about offering the most vulnerable in our society a basic human need.... Prisoners eat for free, why can't children" I agree that funding has been cut the bone, we used to offer free cooking and nutritional classes but unfortunately the funding was cut but I have to say that The families that could probably have benefited the most from this never took it up so it's almost you can leas a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Often the families that I'm talking about are living very complicated chaotic situations, There are no easy answers but education definitely key. | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. The problem is that the same parents who don't prioritise nutritional food are the same parents being given the £15 a week per child for lunches in school holidays. So are they going to spend the vouchers on nutritional food?. We offered parents food parcels for half term and 23 out of 68 asked for money instead. I concur, regardless of whether the parents are feckless or not that is not the childs fault. The child shouldn't suffer regardless.... I used to work for Surestart and ran classes for parents and young Mums, I taught childcare, budgeting and cooking skills. Great initiative until they pulled the funding, education not vilification is the key. This is about offering the most vulnerable in our society a basic human need.... Prisoners eat for free, why can't children I agree that funding has been cut the bone, we used to offer free cooking and nutritional classes but unfortunately the funding was cut but I have to say that The families that could probably have benefited the most from this never took it up so it's almost you can leas a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Often the families that I'm talking about are living very complicated chaotic situations, There are no easy answers but education definitely key. " Very true, again the most vulnerable miss out because of government cuts. Yeah I can see where you are coming from, family dynamics are so complex and some chaotic and it is the children who suffer, used to see that a lot with Surestart | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. This , this and this.....too many people focusing on the parents, focus on the kids its not their fault their parents aren't fit for fuck all and prioritise other things in life, that kid as no control over anything...funny how people who can't see that side of things and whinge about its up to the parents support a certain party I know! So sad isn't it As a society we have a duty to care for the most vulnerable....
To turn it around Safeguarding children is everyones duty of care....But only when the parents fit the sociological ideal it seems
So you are saying the issue is badly educated parents wasting the money they do receive rather than the government?
She isnt saying that in the slightest.
I know you haven't worked how to google yet but try reading what she put earlier about educating parents.
Its clear you are upset at being schooled but you really do need to read a thread fully.
I said 'education is key' not 'badly educated parents'
I never mentioned 'parents wasting government money' either.
So not quite sure how you say he read the thread wrongly?
Whatever you perceive my post the fundamental line is 'let the kids eat'
Maybe look at the holistic context of my post before cherrypicking parts of it"No you referred to parents as " feckless" and clearly stated that some parents needed to be educated in " childcare, budgeting and cooking skills." the quoted words are your words. The fact that children need to be fed is not in dispute but if you are going yo state things then expect to be picked up on them. The reality is some parents budget, and manage to feed their children others don't be it a £50 a week cigarette habit, drink excessive loans or other bad budgeting. This doesn't negate children need to be fed but if some manage on minimal benefits as has been stated on here and others don't its not the governments fault as some loony left elements try to pin to them. | |||
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"If patents can afford to smoke and drink they can afford to feed there kids also they dont need a top range mobile phone,pay as you go are good enough.." So many false stereotypes in one sentence! | |||
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"If patents can afford to smoke and drink they can afford to feed there kids also they dont need a top range mobile phone,pay as you go are good enough.." Every parent smokes drinks has all the modern technology drives top of the range cars and goes on holidays at least 4 times a year .Reality is a lot of people have lost their jobs through no fault of there own there struggling to keep a roof over there heads .Food banks are overwhelmed and you need a referral to go to a food bank .Some people need a reality check. | |||
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"Could someone explain it to me please Do school kids get free dinner in England so when schools are closed they don't get anything I know your government voted to stop the free dinners while schools are closed but where would the kids have gotten these free dinners anyway Genuine questions as I'm in Ireland and even as a Liverpool supporter full of admiration for Marcus Rashford At school all KS1 children are offered a free meal (not all take it) from KS2 it's means tested by the parents/guardians earnings. In the school holidays they used to get nothing but during lockdown they produced vouchers that could be put towards a food shop. " unless you homeschool your kids. | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. This , this and this.....too many people focusing on the parents, focus on the kids its not their fault their parents aren't fit for fuck all and prioritise other things in life, that kid as no control over anything...funny how people who can't see that side of things and whinge about its up to the parents support a certain party I know! So sad isn't it As a society we have a duty to care for the most vulnerable....
To turn it around Safeguarding children is everyones duty of care....But only when the parents fit the sociological ideal it seems
So you are saying the issue is badly educated parents wasting the money they do receive rather than the government?
She isnt saying that in the slightest.
I know you haven't worked how to google yet but try reading what she put earlier about educating parents.
Its clear you are upset at being schooled but you really do need to read a thread fully.
I said 'education is key' not 'badly educated parents'
I never mentioned 'parents wasting government money' either.
So not quite sure how you say he read the thread wrongly?
Whatever you perceive my post the fundamental line is 'let the kids eat'
Maybe look at the holistic context of my post before cherrypicking parts of it
No you referred to parents as " feckless"
and clearly stated that some parents needed to be educated in " childcare, budgeting and cooking skills." the quoted words are your words.
The fact that children need to be fed is not in dispute but if you are going yo state things then expect to be picked up on them.
The reality is some parents budget, and manage to feed their children others don't be it a £50 a week cigarette habit, drink excessive loans or other bad budgeting. This doesn't negate children need to be fed but if some manage on minimal benefits as has been stated on here and others don't its not the governments fault as some loony left elements try to pin to them.
"Nope not all parents, I referred the ones who the lady above me spoke about as feckless and yes they are feckless if they prioritise themselves over feeding their kids.....Of coure people in need should be helped And I do think education is key. I know it is, it works. I didn't say it was the governments fault, just said how the government shouldn't of pulled funding for services which benefited children in areas of need. This is my last response to you, I stand by what I said however you perceive. Have a lovely day, I hope the sun shines bright wherever you are  | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. This , this and this.....too many people focusing on the parents, focus on the kids its not their fault their parents aren't fit for fuck all and prioritise other things in life, that kid as no control over anything...funny how people who can't see that side of things and whinge about its up to the parents support a certain party I know! So sad isn't it As a society we have a duty to care for the most vulnerable....
To turn it around Safeguarding children is everyones duty of care....But only when the parents fit the sociological ideal it seems
So you are saying the issue is badly educated parents wasting the money they do receive rather than the government?
She isnt saying that in the slightest.
I know you haven't worked how to google yet but try reading what she put earlier about educating parents.
Its clear you are upset at being schooled but you really do need to read a thread fully. "Oh dear | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. The problem is that the same parents who don't prioritise nutritional food are the same parents being given the £15 a week per child for lunches in school holidays. So are they going to spend the vouchers on nutritional food?. We offered parents food parcels for half term and 23 out of 68 asked for money instead. I concur, regardless of whether the parents are feckless or not that is not the childs fault. The child shouldn't suffer regardless.... I used to work for Surestart and ran classes for parents and young Mums, I taught childcare, budgeting and cooking skills. Great initiative until they pulled the funding, education not vilification is the key. This is about offering the most vulnerable in our society a basic human need.... Prisoners eat for free, why can't children I agree that funding has been cut the bone, we used to offer free cooking and nutritional classes but unfortunately the funding was cut but I have to say that The families that could probably have benefited the most from this never took it up so it's almost you can leas a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Often the families that I'm talking about are living very complicated chaotic situations, There are no easy answers but education definitely key. " As mentioned before,maybe they were embarrassed. I remember reading somewhere millions go unclaimed in benefits each year. There is a stigma about benefits now,you have seen it on this thread,and just because some people dont claim it,is no excuse to take that safety net away. | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. This , this and this.....too many people focusing on the parents, focus on the kids its not their fault their parents aren't fit for fuck all and prioritise other things in life, that kid as no control over anything...funny how people who can't see that side of things and whinge about its up to the parents support a certain party I know! So sad isn't it As a society we have a duty to care for the most vulnerable....
To turn it around Safeguarding children is everyones duty of care....But only when the parents fit the sociological ideal it seems
So you are saying the issue is badly educated parents wasting the money they do receive rather than the government?
She isnt saying that in the slightest.
I know you haven't worked how to google yet but try reading what she put earlier about educating parents.
Its clear you are upset at being schooled but you really do need to read a thread fully.
I said 'education is key' not 'badly educated parents'
I never mentioned 'parents wasting government money' either.
So not quite sure how you say he read the thread wrongly?
Whatever you perceive my post the fundamental line is 'let the kids eat'
Maybe look at the holistic context of my post before cherrypicking parts of it
No you referred to parents as " feckless"
and clearly stated that some parents needed to be educated in " childcare, budgeting and cooking skills." the quoted words are your words.
The fact that children need to be fed is not in dispute but if you are going yo state things then expect to be picked up on them.
The reality is some parents budget, and manage to feed their children others don't be it a £50 a week cigarette habit, drink excessive loans or other bad budgeting. This doesn't negate children need to be fed but if some manage on minimal benefits as has been stated on here and others don't its not the governments fault as some loony left elements try to pin to them.
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"those that need help are already getting it with uc, or they should be, so why the need to pay to feed kids that are at home? what are these people spending the money on, surley feeding the kids comes first, i dont believe that free school meals when the child is not in school sends the right message, its going to cost alot, and we dont have any money, we are already in deep problems with money, if parents cant budget the uc they are recieving then it shouldnt be the govs fault, if the parents cant look after the children, then you should have to question if they should have them, and before people rise up against what ive said, there are many benifits for families on low income already, and boris was right to say no to this, but he will fold like he always does what message is giving children food sending? that you need not take any responsibility, i know a few people on benifits, and they all think its wrong, just because some millionare footballer says its right doesnt make it right, you may all nor agree with me, but what happens after lockdown, when the meals are nolonger free? I think a community coming together to feed children sends the message that there is a section of society that is willing to help families out without judgement. I think the fact that the person who focussed our attention on this is a millionaire and a footballer is irrelevant. " And I thought I started the thread | |||
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"People arguing over whether kids get feed or not, have a word. " Indeed. | |||
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"People arguing over whether kids get feed or not, have a word. Indeed."
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"People arguing over whether kids get feed or not, have a word. " Exactly  | |||
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"Everything should be free for everybody.... Yee Haa... No need for shitty old school dinners... 3 courses... Fuck it throw in breakfast too for free. Free transport... And a free holiday... Nobody need ever pay for anything ever again. But Children shouldn't suffer regardless of the parents circumstances. The problem is that the same parents who don't prioritise nutritional food are the same parents being given the £15 a week per child for lunches in school holidays. So are they going to spend the vouchers on nutritional food?. We offered parents food parcels for half term and 23 out of 68 asked for money instead. I concur, regardless of whether the parents are feckless or not that is not the childs fault. The child shouldn't suffer regardless.... I used to work for Surestart and ran classes for parents and young Mums, I taught childcare, budgeting and cooking skills. Great initiative until they pulled the funding, education not vilification is the key. This is about offering the most vulnerable in our society a basic human need.... Prisoners eat for free, why can't children I agree that funding has been cut the bone, we used to offer free cooking and nutritional classes but unfortunately the funding was cut but I have to say that The families that could probably have benefited the most from this never took it up so it's almost you can leas a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Often the families that I'm talking about are living very complicated chaotic situations, There are no easy answers but education definitely key. As mentioned before,maybe they were embarrassed. I remember reading somewhere millions go unclaimed in benefits each year. There is a stigma about benefits now,you have seen it on this thread,and just because some people dont claim it,is no excuse to take that safety net away." But then my argument doesn't make sense because you only get free school meals if you claim benefits. So unless you give every child in the country free food how do you plan on solving the situation. And all so I don't understand what you mean by they were embarrassed because the classes that were offered within the school were offered to every parent regardless of their monetary situation. | |||
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"People arguing over whether kids get feed or not, have a word. " Exactly this, doesn’t matter why, no kid should go hungry | |||
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"Man on 65k a yr..for kicking a leather bag around while wearing shorts n t shirt. Nurse here work long hrs just to survive. I wouldnt say live.. Perhaps footballers n mps should live on my wages for a few weeks then money saved could go to those in need. " I can see your point as married to a nurse but with respect the issue of crap pay rises in the NHS and other parts of the public sector under this party the last ten years is not down to what a footballer earns.. Thinking along those lines is playing into the division game the Tories love, pitting others against each other when the real issue is them.. | |||
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