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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong" There needs to be a clear distinction both for the vegatatians and normal people | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong There needs to be a clear distinction both for the vegatatians and normal people " Are vegetarians not normal? | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong" Not a problem. They can be called Veggie Sticks, Veggie Patties, Veggie Bakes. Where there's a will there's a way | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong" I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading " It's generally high in protein is why we eat it, not bothered what it's called. If it was called Veggie pink slices, Veggie brown sticks, that would be good with us | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading " Agreed | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading " Oh you get people eating them for a change, or healthier choice than meat.. Meat free Monday for instance will have lots of meaties + flexitarians who want to recognise what they are eating I eat plenty of sausage.. It's just a flavoured shape | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading Oh you get people eating them for a change, or healthier choice than meat.. Meat free Monday for instance will have lots of meaties + flexitarians who want to recognise what they are eating I eat plenty of sausage.. It's just a flavoured shape " I still don't get it sorry. If I wanted a change I wouldn't choose something that looked like what I wanted a change from. | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading Oh you get people eating them for a change, or healthier choice than meat.. Meat free Monday for instance will have lots of meaties + flexitarians who want to recognise what they are eating I eat plenty of sausage.. It's just a flavoured shape " | |||
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"A Vegetarian company has just announced they're going to start selling triangle and octagon shaped patties with stripes on. Happy days our kid " I don't care what it's called, or how it looks.. So long as nothing died | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading Oh you get people eating them for a change, or healthier choice than meat.. Meat free Monday for instance will have lots of meaties + flexitarians who want to recognise what they are eating I eat plenty of sausage.. It's just a flavoured shape I still don't get it sorry. If I wanted a change I wouldn't choose something that looked like what I wanted a change from. " Just think of it as familiarity perhaps? I don't think anyone really cares, so long as they know how to describe it when shopping / cooking? | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading " Because a lot of vegetarians/vegans choose to be so for ethical reasons. They still like the taste of meat but can't abide the inherent cruelty that goes with its production. Having a product that allows them to virtually swap like for like makes it easier to keep to their chosen diet and gives them more variety of meal options. | |||
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"Why is it our problem? We voted to leave the EU. We're free now to call our food whatever the fuck we want. " Yay | |||
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"Why is it our problem? We voted to leave the EU. We're free now to call our food whatever the fuck we want. " What will crumpets be known as | |||
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"Why is it our problem? We voted to leave the EU. We're free now to call our food whatever the fuck we want. What will crumpets be known as " Are we going to have a rise of things like freedom fries? Thin very British oh so British shaped potato | |||
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"There is no vegan alternative to my meat, so customers will never be disappointed." Really... Isn't it called a dildo *teasing, sorry | |||
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"Ffeedom fries Ooo 'fuck you frites'! That would show the french we mean business Baguette will be renamed 'the long loafy thing '" Let's show them by stealing their stuff and naming it stuff that sounds ridiculous. | |||
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"I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading" What's misleading about describing something as having the flavour of duck or chicken but not being meat, and having to harm the animal to enjoy the experience? | |||
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"I still don't get it sorry. If I wanted a change I wouldn't choose something that looked like what I wanted a change from." No, clearly you don't "get it", or understand why vegans and vegetarians choose to abandon meat and (in the case of vegans) dairy produce. It's not about abandoning the taste, flavours or textures of the animal derived produce, but abandoning the practice that is cruel to animals and the environment, while not being great for our health. Education is your key to understanding. | |||
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"The meat and dairy lobby is strong" If you think they are strong in the EU, it's nothing to the levels its taken in the United States. | |||
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"I still don't get it sorry. If I wanted a change I wouldn't choose something that looked like what I wanted a change from. No, clearly you don't "get it", or understand why vegans and vegetarians choose to abandon meat and (in the case of vegans) dairy produce. It's not about abandoning the taste, flavours or textures of the animal derived produce, but abandoning the practice that is cruel to animals and the environment, while not being great for our health. Education is your key to understanding." I think that's part of it. Why do vegetarians/ vegans want to do certain things. The other thing is... Really why does it matter? As an omnivore the meat is still in the meat section being meat and I can still eat and buy it. It's a bit like gluten free alternatives. "That's not for me". Fine. | |||
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"Ffeedom fries Ooo 'fuck you frites'! That would show the french we mean business Baguette will be renamed 'the long loafy thing ' Let's show them by stealing their stuff and naming it stuff that sounds ridiculous." I'm a remainer but if this had been the Leave slogan it might have swayed me!!! | |||
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"Ffeedom fries Ooo 'fuck you frites'! That would show the french we mean business Baguette will be renamed 'the long loafy thing ' Let's show them by stealing their stuff and naming it stuff that sounds ridiculous. I'm a remainer but if this had been the Leave slogan it might have swayed me!!! " I voted remain too. Might have been more convincing, yeah | |||
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"I still don't get it sorry. If I wanted a change I wouldn't choose something that looked like what I wanted a change from. No, clearly you don't "get it", or understand why vegans and vegetarians choose to abandon meat and (in the case of vegans) dairy produce. It's not about abandoning the taste, flavours or textures of the animal derived produce, but abandoning the practice that is cruel to animals and the environment, while not being great for our health. Education is your key to understanding." Well yes I do, or else I wouldn't of posted. I know the reasoning and as far as I am concerned if I forgo meat then I also forgo the taste of it. I didn't post to have my opinion challenged. Don't question my education, maybe you need to step back and not be so judgemental I have better things to do than try and justify my opinions to you so I bid you a good day. | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegan alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong" Just out of interest ET, what do you hooe to achieve from this thread?? | |||
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"Why are meat eaters so offended by what vegetarians or vegans eat? It's not for you. Walk past it. Don't buy it. Really. So what?" Who is offended? I stated something I had observed, didn't say it offended me | |||
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"I think the fake meats are to try get meat eaters to turn veggie no expert just a thought " Never happen in my camp | |||
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"I think the fake meats are to try get meat eaters to turn veggie no expert just a thought " Yeah they certainly appeal to my step dad... Makes it less 'traumatic' in his head that he is not getting meat +3 veg | |||
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"Yogurt is possibly the only one I can understand. The others don't even mean meat, they're just a description of shape. If they called it a breast/thigh/ribs or something I could get the point more but sausage especially can be anything. " Don't mention greggs vegan sausage rolls | |||
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"Why is it our problem? We voted to leave the EU. We're free now to call our food whatever the fuck we want. " So _that_ is the Brexit bonus! | |||
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"Why is it our problem? We voted to leave the EU. We're free now to call our food whatever the fuck we want. So _that_ is the Brexit bonus!" Got to have something. Ooh. Tim Tams! ... not *that* big a deal guys (Dear ScoMo et al I'm sorry please don't revoke my citizenship I love Tim Tams!) | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong There needs to be a clear distinction both for the vegatatians and normal people Are vegetarians not normal?" No, they aren't "normal" if you follow the route to the definition of the word. | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong There needs to be a clear distinction both for the vegatatians and normal people Are vegetarians not normal? No, they aren't "normal" if you follow the route to the definition of the word. " Are only weirdos allowed to be veggie Is there a test that you have to complete | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong There needs to be a clear distinction both for the vegatatians and normal people Are vegetarians not normal? No, they aren't "normal" if you follow the route to the definition of the word. Are only weirdos allowed to be veggie Is there a test that you have to complete " What happens if a veggie fails the test... Will they have to eat meat | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong There needs to be a clear distinction both for the vegatatians and normal people " I consider my self normalish! X | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong There needs to be a clear distinction both for the vegatatians and normal people Are vegetarians not normal? No, they aren't "normal" if you follow the route to the definition of the word. Are only weirdos allowed to be veggie Is there a test that you have to complete " We all are natural omnivores so technically it’s no “normal” to be a vegetarian | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading " People ask me why I want to eat stuff that looks/tastes like meat being a veggie I tell them because I like the taste of meat I just dont eat it for moral reasons x | |||
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"Don't question my education, maybe you need to step back and not be so judgemental" My comment wasn't about your general education or standard of education, but about educating yourself as to why a person chooses to become vegetarian or vegan. If you took the time to educate yourself to the myriad of reasons why, then you would understand. So if anyone is being judgemental here, I assure you it is not me. I am a vegan, and made the switch for three key reasons... animal welfare, environmental protection, and personal health benefits. At no point did I choose to go vegan because I didn't like the taste, flavour or texture of the food products I was abandoning. There are many products I can have that provide the same taste sensation as the animal product it's replacing without requiring an animal to die for me to have that enjoyment. You know, like how a rampant rabbit doesn't contain rabbit, but still gets you off? On a side note, if you decide you don't want your opinions challenged when aired on a public forum (clue is in the name), it's probably best not to post. In the spirit of open and friendly debate here, we get out opinions challenged... you might learn from other peoples opinions, and they might learn from yours. | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading People ask me why I want to eat stuff that looks/tastes like meat being a veggie I tell them because I like the taste of meat I just dont eat it for moral reasons x" Good on you for that need more people to take that sacrifice to save this planet can’t bring myself to it though can’t beat a steak | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading People ask me why I want to eat stuff that looks/tastes like meat being a veggie I tell them because I like the taste of meat I just dont eat it for moral reasons x" Yeah Whereas I don't like meat, so i eat it for the texture, flavour + convenience... And also the no death aspect | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong There needs to be a clear distinction both for the vegatatians and normal people Are vegetarians not normal? No, they aren't "normal" if you follow the route to the definition of the word. Are only weirdos allowed to be veggie Is there a test that you have to complete We all are natural omnivores so technically it’s no “normal” to be a vegetarian " Lmao!!! X | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong There needs to be a clear distinction both for the vegatatians and normal people Are vegetarians not normal? No, they aren't "normal" if you follow the route to the definition of the word. Are only weirdos allowed to be veggie Is there a test that you have to complete " 1:Maybe, I dunno 2:Doubtful but possibly | |||
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"Why is it our problem? We voted to leave the EU. We're free now to call our food whatever the fuck we want. " And as a retainer, Britains worst ever decision since WWII, but being outside the EU doesn't mean we can ignore EU laws and international laws... so no, we can't call our food whatever the fuck we want. You can have a pastie, but only Cornish pasties are made in Cornwall. Stilton cheese can only be made in Stilton, etc... We maybe able to grow grapes in Kent, but Champagne can only be made in the Champagne region of France. A few years back there was a big argument about chocolate, as the chocolate confectionary we devour in this country doesn't contain enough of the essential ingredients to be considered "chocolate". On a more serious note, food labelling is actually quite an important topic, especially if you have an medical, ethical or religious reasons to avoid specific product or ingredient. | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong There needs to be a clear distinction both for the vegatatians and normal people Are vegetarians not normal? No, they aren't "normal" if you follow the route to the definition of the word. Are only weirdos allowed to be veggie Is there a test that you have to complete We all are natural omnivores so technically it’s no “normal” to be a vegetarian " It's also not "normal" to consume dairy after weaning or cook food but here we are. | |||
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"Why is it our problem? We voted to leave the EU. We're free now to call our food whatever the fuck we want. And as a retainer, Britains worst ever decision since WWII, but being outside the EU doesn't mean we can ignore EU laws and international laws... so no, we can't call our food whatever the fuck we want. You can have a pastie, but only Cornish pasties are made in Cornwall. Stilton cheese can only be made in Stilton, etc... We maybe able to grow grapes in Kent, but Champagne can only be made in the Champagne region of France. A few years back there was a big argument about chocolate, as the chocolate confectionary we devour in this country doesn't contain enough of the essential ingredients to be considered "chocolate". On a more serious note, food labelling is actually quite an important topic, especially if you have an medical, ethical or religious reasons to avoid specific product or ingredient." Can we relabel in limited and specific ways? | |||
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"Why is it our problem? We voted to leave the EU. We're free now to call our food whatever the fuck we want. " Dont count me in that I'm a remainer!! X | |||
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" You'd have to be pretty dumb not to know that a veggie burger isn't meat! " Right? Let's not insult our intelligence. Veggie burger in the meat free alternatives section with a picture of a plant not a cow on it. Ingredients list. Vegetarian/vegan on the front. About three steps away you'll find stuff with pictures of cows. Clues... maybe. | |||
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" You'd have to be pretty dumb not to know that a veggie burger isn't meat! " Some people obviously are that obtuse...why else would knife packaging need to have a warning label that the contents may be sharp? Or hot drinks cups have a warning that they may contain hot liquid? | |||
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" You'd have to be pretty dumb not to know that a veggie burger isn't meat! Some people obviously are that obtuse...why else would knife packaging need to have a warning label that the contents may be sharp? Or hot drinks cups have a warning that they may contain hot liquid? " Lawsuits lead to labels. But I see a pattern here. Coffee may be hot. Knives may be sharp. Veggie burger may contain vegetables. Problem solved! | |||
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"But..... But Quorn chicken nuggets taste better than Maccy's nuggets" Now that's a step too far | |||
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" You'd have to be pretty dumb not to know that a veggie burger isn't meat! " May not contain meet, but with processed food may not be strictly vegetarian either, and a whole heap of vegetarian food isn't vegan. Same goes with drinks. Diet Pepsi isn't vegan (fish gelatine) but Pepsi Max is. Clear labelling is essential. | |||
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" You'd have to be pretty dumb not to know that a veggie burger isn't meat! Some people obviously are that obtuse...why else would knife packaging need to have a warning label that the contents may be sharp? Or hot drinks cups have a warning that they may contain hot liquid? Lawsuits lead to labels. But I see a pattern here. Coffee may be hot. Knives may be sharp. Veggie burger may contain vegetables. Problem solved!" And there we get to the crux of it - the compensation culture that we find ourselves living in means that companies will always do what they deem necessary to avoid being sued. | |||
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" You'd have to be pretty dumb not to know that a veggie burger isn't meat! Some people obviously are that obtuse...why else would knife packaging need to have a warning label that the contents may be sharp? Or hot drinks cups have a warning that they may contain hot liquid? Lawsuits lead to labels. But I see a pattern here. Coffee may be hot. Knives may be sharp. Veggie burger may contain vegetables. Problem solved! And there we get to the crux of it - the compensation culture that we find ourselves living in means that companies will always do what they deem necessary to avoid being sued. " In this case it appears to be meat/dairy lobbies wanting exclusivity in terms, rather than compensation culture. It's a shame companies have to be sued to not harm people in so many cases. Or (McDonald's hot coffee case) they spend so much money trying to rewrite the narrative into greedy lady got a boo boo rather than negligent policies leading to severe injury (in a country where those injuries are paid personally out of pocket and so awards must be higher). | |||
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" You'd have to be pretty dumb not to know that a veggie burger isn't meat! Right? Let's not insult our intelligence. Veggie burger in the meat free alternatives section with a picture of a plant not a cow on it. Ingredients list. Vegetarian/vegan on the front. About three steps away you'll find stuff with pictures of cows. Clues... maybe." Actually i have to go into the meat aisle to get my richmond sausages... I hate it , but love them.. Dilemma! | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong" Must be more important things to sort out ffs | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong Must be more important things to sort out ffs" Not when corporate lobbies can throw their weight around and pretend it's stupid consumers. What a world. | |||
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" You'd have to be pretty dumb not to know that a veggie burger isn't meat! Right? Let's not insult our intelligence. Veggie burger in the meat free alternatives section with a picture of a plant not a cow on it. Ingredients list. Vegetarian/vegan on the front. About three steps away you'll find stuff with pictures of cows. Clues... maybe. Actually i have to go into the meat aisle to get my richmond sausages... I hate it , but love them.. Dilemma! " I can empathise. But it's not like it could be much more obvious that you're getting meat free stuff unless you had a dedicated staff member to warn you away from the icky plants | |||
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"Does this mean they will change veggie pasty’s, to Quornish pasties ?! I thank you " Back in the day this would have got at least 10 reply and quotes | |||
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"But..... But Quorn chicken nuggets taste better than Maccy's nuggets Now that's a step too far " Try them..... Deadly serious. Kids would rather a Quorn nugget than one with chicken | |||
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"But..... But Quorn chicken nuggets taste better than Maccy's nuggets Now that's a step too far Try them..... Deadly serious. Kids would rather a Quorn nugget than one with chicken " My nieces were the same... Told their mum they liked auntie midnight's nuggets she laughed when i told her the brand | |||
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"Does this mean they will change veggie pasty’s, to Quornish pasties ?! I thank you Back in the day this would have got at least 10 reply and quotes" It was good and you seem a funghi but we didn't want you giving up your day job on the back of it. | |||
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"We all are natural omnivores so technically it’s no “normal” to be a vegetarian " Just because we have the ability to consume a wide range of food types, it does not mean any group that does not include all food types in their diet are not normal. | |||
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"We all are natural omnivores so technically it’s no “normal” to be a vegetarian Just because we have the ability to consume a wide range of food types, it does not mean any group that does not include all food types in their diet are not normal. " I think there's a few meanings of normal being mixed up. Average, typical. Within a group, acceptable, not weird. Here it might be read as "we have this history therefore those who don't follow it are weird". I'm not here for that kind of sneaky unkind equivocation. | |||
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"We all are natural omnivores so technically it’s no “normal” to be a vegetarian Just because we have the ability to consume a wide range of food types, it does not mean any group that does not include all food types in their diet are not normal. " If you’re going by the dictionary definition of normal it pretty much does mean that though | |||
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"But..... But Quorn chicken nuggets taste better than Maccy's nuggets Now that's a step too far Try them..... Deadly serious. Kids would rather a Quorn nugget than one with chicken My nieces were the same... Told their mum they liked auntie midnight's nuggets she laughed when i told her the brand " One of my daughters prefers them shes allways nicking mine x | |||
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" You'd have to be pretty dumb not to know that a veggie burger isn't meat! Right? Let's not insult our intelligence. Veggie burger in the meat free alternatives section with a picture of a plant not a cow on it. Ingredients list. Vegetarian/vegan on the front. About three steps away you'll find stuff with pictures of cows. Clues... maybe. Actually i have to go into the meat aisle to get my richmond sausages... I hate it , but love them.. Dilemma! " Those Richmond veggie sausages are the best ever taste like meat x | |||
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"I don’t agree with “normal” either hence the quotations just going by the dictionary definition " Words have multiple meanings and connotations. This is sneaky equivocation. | |||
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" You'd have to be pretty dumb not to know that a veggie burger isn't meat! Right? Let's not insult our intelligence. Veggie burger in the meat free alternatives section with a picture of a plant not a cow on it. Ingredients list. Vegetarian/vegan on the front. About three steps away you'll find stuff with pictures of cows. Clues... maybe. Actually i have to go into the meat aisle to get my richmond sausages... I hate it , but love them.. Dilemma! Those Richmond veggie sausages are the best ever taste like meat x" They are like crack cocaine lol, I'm addicted! Not eaten meat since i was a teen, so that's 35 years ago (bloody hell I'm old!) so can't really comment on how authentic they are, but flipping heck, they are soooooo tasty | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong There needs to be a clear distinction both for the vegatatians and normal people " Look for the green letter V on products.- They're approved by the Vegetarian Society. | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong There needs to be a clear distinction both for the vegatatians and normal people Look for the green letter V on products.- They're approved by the Vegetarian Society. " Vegetarians and omnivores already have plenty of labels. It's fine. This is a ridiculous non issue | |||
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"Am a meat eater and always will be I’ve no problem with veggies or vegans You eat what you like I do and enjoy it too Stay safe " Hell yes. | |||
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"Am a meat eater and always will be I’ve no problem with veggies or vegans You eat what you like I do and enjoy it too Stay safe " Hallelujah | |||
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"I don’t agree with “normal” either hence the quotations just going by the dictionary definition Words have multiple meanings and connotations. This is sneaky equivocation." I’m meaning it in the way most people are so this is “normal” | |||
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"I don’t agree with “normal” either hence the quotations just going by the dictionary definition Words have multiple meanings and connotations. This is sneaky equivocation. I’m meaning it in the way most people are so this is “normal”" Words have multiple meanings depending on context and they slide around. | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong" Nothing wrong with giving it another name to stop confusion. It might stop vegans mistakenly eating meat who knows its "Meat product misappropriation" | |||
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"If you’re going by the dictionary definition of normal it pretty much does mean that though " I think the problem is that you're projecting a certain standard of normality onto the whole of humankind. There are parts of the world and parts of history for which eating meat is not part of their "normal" diet. | |||
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"If you’re going by the dictionary definition of normal it pretty much does mean that though I think the problem is that you're projecting a certain standard of normality onto the whole of humankind. There are parts of the world and parts of history for which eating meat is not part of their "normal" diet. " I said what I said and meant it most people on this planet eat meat so this is considered normal fuck all this pc shit let’s talk facts | |||
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"I literally explained the way I was meaning it and that I don’t usually use the word normal but it is a word there is a definition and I used it correctly all I said was most people are natural omnivores so this was “normal” in the sense that most people are don’t know any other words to use this was my best way of explaining it " I see your point about the using the word "normal" to define the majority of people, but you surely know it's problematic? This is not being pc it's just being sensitive. | |||
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"I literally explained the way I was meaning it and that I don’t usually use the word normal but it is a word there is a definition and I used it correctly all I said was most people are natural omnivores so this was “normal” in the sense that most people are don’t know any other words to use this was my best way of explaining it I see your point about the using the word "normal" to define the majority of people, but you surely know it's problematic? This is not being pc it's just being sensitive. " Of course hence why I’ve explained what way I’m using it and why and I’ve explained I don’t like the word and don’t use it like that normally | |||
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"I literally explained the way I was meaning it and that I don’t usually use the word normal but it is a word there is a definition and I used it correctly all I said was most people are natural omnivores so this was “normal” in the sense that most people are don’t know any other words to use this was my best way of explaining it I see your point about the using the word "normal" to define the majority of people, but you surely know it's problematic? This is not being pc it's just being sensitive. Of course hence why I’ve explained what way I’m using it and why and I’ve explained I don’t like the word and don’t use it like that normally " So stop using it and figure out what you want to say and how to express it without offending your audience | |||
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"I literally explained the way I was meaning it and that I don’t usually use the word normal but it is a word there is a definition and I used it correctly all I said was most people are natural omnivores so this was “normal” in the sense that most people are don’t know any other words to use this was my best way of explaining it I see your point about the using the word "normal" to define the majority of people, but you surely know it's problematic? This is not being pc it's just being sensitive. Of course hence why I’ve explained what way I’m using it and why and I’ve explained I don’t like the word and don’t use it like that normally So stop using it and figure out what you want to say and how to express it without offending your audience " Are you even vegetarian? | |||
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"I literally explained the way I was meaning it and that I don’t usually use the word normal but it is a word there is a definition and I used it correctly all I said was most people are natural omnivores so this was “normal” in the sense that most people are don’t know any other words to use this was my best way of explaining it I see your point about the using the word "normal" to define the majority of people, but you surely know it's problematic? This is not being pc it's just being sensitive. Of course hence why I’ve explained what way I’m using it and why and I’ve explained I don’t like the word and don’t use it like that normally So stop using it and figure out what you want to say and how to express it without offending your audience Are you even vegetarian? " Sorry, but what point are you trying to make? | |||
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"If you’re going by the dictionary definition of normal it pretty much does mean that though I think the problem is that you're projecting a certain standard of normality onto the whole of humankind. There are parts of the world and parts of history for which eating meat is not part of their "normal" diet. I said what I said and meant it most people on this planet eat meat so this is considered normal fuck all this pc shit let’s talk facts " Oh, PC. Certain groups get upset so they throw that around. Words have meaning. Things like PC aren't just a blanket insult to throw at people sticking up for minorities. | |||
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"Isn’t this the plot line from Yes Minister in the early ‘80s? The euro-sausage and the British sausage" | |||
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"Those Richmond veggie sausages are the best ever taste like meat x" Try Linda McCartney Lincolnshire, THEY are the best. The best we've tasted in 30 years | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading " | |||
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"Those Richmond veggie sausages are the best ever taste like meat x Try Linda McCartney Lincolnshire, THEY are the best. The best we've tasted in 30 years " I'm making 'summer "its not sausage" sausage tray bake' tonight for tea with richmonds! | |||
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"Those Richmond veggie sausages are the best ever taste like meat x Try Linda McCartney Lincolnshire, THEY are the best. The best we've tasted in 30 years I'm making 'summer "its not sausage" sausage tray bake' tonight for tea with richmonds! " Yum yum. We've got Tesco Plant Chef Meat free balls. That's if we're allowed to call them meat free balls | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading " Because alot of vegetarians miss the taste of meat so if u can have something that looks and tastes like it that's good in my book x | |||
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"Those Richmond veggie sausages are the best ever taste like meat x Try Linda McCartney Lincolnshire, THEY are the best. The best we've tasted in 30 years " Keep seeing them at work might have to try them until the Richmond ones came out I had the linda ones but not the rosemary ones didnt like those x | |||
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"If you’re going by the dictionary definition of normal it pretty much does mean that though I think the problem is that you're projecting a certain standard of normality onto the whole of humankind. There are parts of the world and parts of history for which eating meat is not part of their "normal" diet. I said what I said and meant it most people on this planet eat meat so this is considered normal fuck all this pc shit let’s talk facts " I think you might find that in India there are more vegetarians than the entire population of the United Kingdom. So who's normal now? | |||
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"I imagine that this bullshit has somehow found it's way into the pages of the Daily Mail or similar rag. Like the straight bananas nonsense. Never debated or considered by the EU" Its total nonsense to have straight bananas! Prefer a curvy one any day! x | |||
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"If you’re going by the dictionary definition of normal it pretty much does mean that though I think the problem is that you're projecting a certain standard of normality onto the whole of humankind. There are parts of the world and parts of history for which eating meat is not part of their "normal" diet. I said what I said and meant it most people on this planet eat meat so this is considered normal fuck all this pc shit let’s talk facts I think you might find that in India there are more vegetarians than the entire population of the United Kingdom. So who's normal now?" | |||
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"I imagine that this bullshit has somehow found it's way into the pages of the Daily Mail or similar rag. Like the straight bananas nonsense. Never debated or considered by the EU Its total nonsense to have straight bananas! Prefer a curvy one any day! x" Hmmmmm I'd like blue bananas to match my new passport (its a joke!!!) | |||
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"But..... But Quorn chicken nuggets taste better than Maccy's nuggets Now that's a step too far Try them..... Deadly serious. Kids would rather a Quorn nugget than one with chicken My nieces were the same... Told their mum they liked auntie midnight's nuggets she laughed when i told her the brand " We dont buy any others now. Generally I would cook the family the real thing and stick to the veggies for myself. | |||
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"But..... But Quorn chicken nuggets taste better than Maccy's nuggets Now that's a step too far Try them..... Deadly serious. Kids would rather a Quorn nugget than one with chicken My nieces were the same... Told their mum they liked auntie midnight's nuggets she laughed when i told her the brand One of my daughters prefers them shes allways nicking mine x" I find a fork to the back of the hand generally stops that *Joke* | |||
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"I find the words “Vegetarian” and “Vegan“ on packaging have been helpful over the years when shopping. I assume meat eaters find words like “Beef”, “Pork” or Chicken” equally as useful" It's almost like this is a non issue and we should let people eat what they like. | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading " I was vegan for a while but purely to see what it was like. I enoyed the lookalikes, but thats because i wasnt doing it for the animals | |||
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"I find the words “Vegetarian” and “Vegan“ on packaging have been helpful over the years when shopping. I assume meat eaters find words like “Beef”, “Pork” or Chicken” equally as useful It's almost like this is a non issue and we should let people eat what they like." Exactly; I’ve never eaten meat (hippy parents) and been vegan for 7-8 years. Never felt the need to inflict my views on anyone; just if you come to my house you aren’t getting a bacon butty. | |||
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"I find the words “Vegetarian” and “Vegan“ on packaging have been helpful over the years when shopping. I assume meat eaters find words like “Beef”, “Pork” or Chicken” equally as useful It's almost like this is a non issue and we should let people eat what they like. Exactly; I’ve never eaten meat (hippy parents) and been vegan for 7-8 years. Never felt the need to inflict my views on anyone; just if you come to my house you aren’t getting a bacon butty. " And if you came to mine I'd feed you something you can eat cooked with pans/utensils which haven't touched animal products since they were last cleaned. | |||
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"I find the words “Vegetarian” and “Vegan“ on packaging have been helpful over the years when shopping. I assume meat eaters find words like “Beef”, “Pork” or Chicken” equally as useful It's almost like this is a non issue and we should let people eat what they like. Exactly; I’ve never eaten meat (hippy parents) and been vegan for 7-8 years. Never felt the need to inflict my views on anyone; just if you come to my house you aren’t getting a bacon butty. And if you came to mine I'd feed you something you can eat cooked with pans/utensils which haven't touched animal products since they were last cleaned." And I would be more than happy with that so I’ll be round at 7 | |||
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"I find the words “Vegetarian” and “Vegan“ on packaging have been helpful over the years when shopping. I assume meat eaters find words like “Beef”, “Pork” or Chicken” equally as useful It's almost like this is a non issue and we should let people eat what they like. Exactly; I’ve never eaten meat (hippy parents) and been vegan for 7-8 years. Never felt the need to inflict my views on anyone; just if you come to my house you aren’t getting a bacon butty. And if you came to mine I'd feed you something you can eat cooked with pans/utensils which haven't touched animal products since they were last cleaned. And I would be more than happy with that so I’ll be round at 7" Omg me too!! shall i bring the wine | |||
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"I find the words “Vegetarian” and “Vegan“ on packaging have been helpful over the years when shopping. I assume meat eaters find words like “Beef”, “Pork” or Chicken” equally as useful It's almost like this is a non issue and we should let people eat what they like. Exactly; I’ve never eaten meat (hippy parents) and been vegan for 7-8 years. Never felt the need to inflict my views on anyone; just if you come to my house you aren’t getting a bacon butty. And if you came to mine I'd feed you something you can eat cooked with pans/utensils which haven't touched animal products since they were last cleaned. And I would be more than happy with that so I’ll be round at 7 Omg me too!! shall i bring the wine " We’re coming too with some Vegan cider, that’s if we’re allowed to call it Vegan cider? (No Pork in cider jokes please ) | |||
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"I find the words “Vegetarian” and “Vegan“ on packaging have been helpful over the years when shopping. I assume meat eaters find words like “Beef”, “Pork” or Chicken” equally as useful It's almost like this is a non issue and we should let people eat what they like. Exactly; I’ve never eaten meat (hippy parents) and been vegan for 7-8 years. Never felt the need to inflict my views on anyone; just if you come to my house you aren’t getting a bacon butty. And if you came to mine I'd feed you something you can eat cooked with pans/utensils which haven't touched animal products since they were last cleaned. And I would be more than happy with that so I’ll be round at 7 Omg me too!! shall i bring the wine We’re coming too with some Vegan cider, that’s if we’re allowed to call it Vegan cider? (No Pork in cider jokes please )" I love Aspalls Ciders (all vegan); Premier Cru is amazing. Is it a dirty tea night? If so I’ll bring Oumph vegan kebab, salad and some pittas | |||
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"I find the words “Vegetarian” and “Vegan“ on packaging have been helpful over the years when shopping. I assume meat eaters find words like “Beef”, “Pork” or Chicken” equally as useful It's almost like this is a non issue and we should let people eat what they like. Exactly; I’ve never eaten meat (hippy parents) and been vegan for 7-8 years. Never felt the need to inflict my views on anyone; just if you come to my house you aren’t getting a bacon butty. And if you came to mine I'd feed you something you can eat cooked with pans/utensils which haven't touched animal products since they were last cleaned. And I would be more than happy with that so I’ll be round at 7 Omg me too!! shall i bring the wine We’re coming too with some Vegan cider, that’s if we’re allowed to call it Vegan cider? (No Pork in cider jokes please ) I love Aspalls Ciders (all vegan); Premier Cru is amazing. Is it a dirty tea night? If so I’ll bring Oumph vegan kebab, salad and some pittas" Oumph vegan kebab?... Instant orgasm | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading " I agree, and I’m vegetarian Hc | |||
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"I imagine that this bullshit has somehow found it's way into the pages of the Daily Mail or similar rag. Like the straight bananas nonsense. Never debated or considered by the EU Its total nonsense to have straight bananas! Prefer a curvy one any day! x" I think that the banana company fyffes offered a big cash prize to the first person to find a straight Banana.. In over 100 years nobody had claimed the prize | |||
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"Come December, and the eu will have not as much jurisdiction over us and you veggies can enjoy your veggie burger once again " I suspect many will be astonished to discover that major decision making bodies and economic blocs will continue to determine our lives in a number of ways. | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong" This is very Daily Mail. Based vaguely off a grain of truth and twisted out of all proportion. And used as some vague justification for convincing their readership that they were correct to vote leave. This rubbish confused silly people before. https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/895964 | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong This is very Daily Mail. Based vaguely off a grain of truth and twisted out of all proportion. And used as some vague justification for convincing their readership that they were correct to vote leave. This rubbish confused silly people before. https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/895964" Certain sectors of the media twisting stuff to shit on minority groups minding their own business? Noooo. Say it ain't so | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong This is very Daily Mail. Based vaguely off a grain of truth and twisted out of all proportion. And used as some vague justification for convincing their readership that they were correct to vote leave. This rubbish confused silly people before. https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/895964 Certain sectors of the media twisting stuff to shit on minority groups minding their own business? Noooo. Say it ain't so " Probably the was the only time this section of the media has done that though. Right! | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong I got slated last time I said that I couldn't understand why vegetarians would want to eat something that looked like regular burger and sausages...all about having options apparently. If I didn't eat meat I wouldn't eat something that looked lik I was shopping in Sainsbury and saw the phrases 'Meat Free Duck' and 'Vegetarian Chicken' no it is neither Duck or Chicken. Why on earth would vegetarians want eat it. It is misleading " Nuts! | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong This is very Daily Mail. Based vaguely off a grain of truth and twisted out of all proportion. And used as some vague justification for convincing their readership that they were correct to vote leave. This rubbish confused silly people before. https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/895964 Certain sectors of the media twisting stuff to shit on minority groups minding their own business? Noooo. Say it ain't so " Hehe sadly it is true, being debated tbis week I believe .. Interesting in the current climate that it is such a critical issue .. Anyway, looking forward to my veggie disc and my veggie schlong Assume chicken + turkey burgers will also lose their privilege! | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong This is very Daily Mail. Based vaguely off a grain of truth and twisted out of all proportion. And used as some vague justification for convincing their readership that they were correct to vote leave. This rubbish confused silly people before. https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/895964 Certain sectors of the media twisting stuff to shit on minority groups minding their own business? Noooo. Say it ain't so Probably the was the only time this section of the media has done that though. Right!" | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong This is very Daily Mail. Based vaguely off a grain of truth and twisted out of all proportion. And used as some vague justification for convincing their readership that they were correct to vote leave. This rubbish confused silly people before. https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/895964 Certain sectors of the media twisting stuff to shit on minority groups minding their own business? Noooo. Say it ain't so Hehe sadly it is true, being debated tbis week I believe .. Interesting in the current climate that it is such a critical issue .. Anyway, looking forward to my veggie disc and my veggie schlong Assume chicken + turkey burgers will also lose their privilege! " They're debating food labelling. Anyone who wants to eat veggie burgers will still be able to eat them. Just more standard misleading anti EU rubbish. We've left, and they're still trying to fool people. | |||
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" They're debating food labelling. Anyone who wants to eat veggie burgers will still be able to eat them. Just more standard misleading anti EU rubbish. We've left, and they're still trying to fool people." Yes of course we can still eat them... But producers may need to re-label as a dufferent name | |||
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" They're debating food labelling. Anyone who wants to eat veggie burgers will still be able to eat them. Just more standard misleading anti EU rubbish. We've left, and they're still trying to fool people. Yes of course we can still eat them... But producers may need to re-label as a dufferent name " Good job we left the EU then eh? Wouldn't want to buy a veggie burger with a different label. | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong This is very Daily Mail. Based vaguely off a grain of truth and twisted out of all proportion. And used as some vague justification for convincing their readership that they were correct to vote leave. This rubbish confused silly people before. https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/895964 Certain sectors of the media twisting stuff to shit on minority groups minding their own business? Noooo. Say it ain't so Hehe sadly it is true, being debated tbis week I believe .. Interesting in the current climate that it is such a critical issue .. Anyway, looking forward to my veggie disc and my veggie schlong Assume chicken + turkey burgers will also lose their privilege! They're debating food labelling. Anyone who wants to eat veggie burgers will still be able to eat them. Just more standard misleading anti EU rubbish. We've left, and they're still trying to fool people." Somehow it's only a problem when the EU do it. I'm rather enjoying my "genuine Australian sheepskin boots" as the weather cools | |||
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"As a vegetarian I'm a bit sick of chicken style nuggets, vegan steak bakes etc. so I'm all for it. Why a processed and shaped food needs to be named after anything at all is anyones guess. The way been paved for this anyway. I can't believe it's not burgers. Sorted." It's just the food labelling. No one it talking about banning the products. Plus no one is forcing you to buy them, are they? | |||
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"Next minute they will say you can’t call it a hamburger, because it contains no ham." Beefburgers is the proper name. They contained ham after the war and were called hamburgers then | |||
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"The EU are debating whether to ban the use of burger, sausage, steak and yoghurt style in veggie and vegon alternatives to meat. They say it misleads customers. The meat and dairy lobby is strong This is very Daily Mail. Based vaguely off a grain of truth and twisted out of all proportion. And used as some vague justification for convincing their readership that they were correct to vote leave. This rubbish confused silly people before. https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/895964 Certain sectors of the media twisting stuff to shit on minority groups minding their own business? Noooo. Say it ain't so Hehe sadly it is true, being debated tbis week I believe .. Interesting in the current climate that it is such a critical issue .. Anyway, looking forward to my veggie disc and my veggie schlong Assume chicken + turkey burgers will also lose their privilege! They're debating food labelling. Anyone who wants to eat veggie burgers will still be able to eat them. Just more standard misleading anti EU rubbish. We've left, and they're still trying to fool people." Not sure it's anti EU at all. Surely we deserve not to be misled over food labelling | |||
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"Beefburgers is the proper name. They contained ham after the war and were called hamburgers then " Nope. Hamburgers is from being invented in Hamburg.. The term 'hamburger' comes from Hamburg in Germany, where a minced beef style dish was first created. And that's from McDonald's so it's gotta be true | |||
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"It's just the food labelling. No one it talking about banning the products. Plus no one is forcing you to buy them, are they? " That wasn't my point at all. I just meant there's no need to call things chicken style etc when the only thing is in the style of is a blob. Quorn Blobs. Works for me | |||
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"It's just the food labelling. No one it talking about banning the products. Plus no one is forcing you to buy them, are they? That wasn't my point at all. I just meant there's no need to call things chicken style etc when the only thing is in the style of is a blob. Quorn Blobs. Works for me" Well quite. But the single and only issue here is how this kind of non-news turns into anti EU sentiment. It's no wonder it was so easy to fool the British public into voting leave. | |||
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"So they are going to spend hours if not weeks debating something that needs no intervention as putting veggie in the description of a burger, sausage ect sort of describes what it is " That's what the EU has been doing year on year. There was an issue with Cadburys chocolate which apparently didn't have sufficient cocoa powder in it to call it chocolate, then there were British sausages, for similar reasons, not enough pork/beef, there was issue with pork pies, potted shrimps, meatball and pasta to name a few. | |||
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"So they are going to spend hours if not weeks debating something that needs no intervention as putting veggie in the description of a burger, sausage ect sort of describes what it is That's what the EU has been doing year on year. There was an issue with Cadburys chocolate which apparently didn't have sufficient cocoa powder in it to call it chocolate, then there were British sausages, for similar reasons, not enough pork/beef, there was issue with pork pies, potted shrimps, meatball and pasta to name a few." All done to protect us from falling standards | |||
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"So they are going to spend hours if not weeks debating something that needs no intervention as putting veggie in the description of a burger, sausage ect sort of describes what it is That's what the EU has been doing year on year. There was an issue with Cadburys chocolate which apparently didn't have sufficient cocoa powder in it to call it chocolate, then there were British sausages, for similar reasons, not enough pork/beef, there was issue with pork pies, potted shrimps, meatball and pasta to name a few. All done to protect us from falling standards" Not to worry. We're scrapping good safety standards and food labelling laws. Whatever will Daily Mail readers be outraged at then! That's the problem. | |||
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"It's just the food labelling. No one it talking about banning the products. Plus no one is forcing you to buy them, are they? That wasn't my point at all. I just meant there's no need to call things chicken style etc when the only thing is in the style of is a blob. Quorn Blobs. Works for me Well quite. But the single and only issue here is how this kind of non-news turns into anti EU sentiment. It's no wonder it was so easy to fool the British public into voting leave." The anti EU sentiment is imagined I hope | |||
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"It's just the food labelling. No one it talking about banning the products. Plus no one is forcing you to buy them, are they? That wasn't my point at all. I just meant there's no need to call things chicken style etc when the only thing is in the style of is a blob. Quorn Blobs. Works for me Well quite. But the single and only issue here is how this kind of non-news turns into anti EU sentiment. It's no wonder it was so easy to fool the British public into voting leave. The anti EU sentiment is imagined I hope " Sadly not, more people voted leave than remain. | |||
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"So they are going to spend hours if not weeks debating something that needs no intervention as putting veggie in the description of a burger, sausage ect sort of describes what it is That's what the EU has been doing year on year. There was an issue with Cadburys chocolate which apparently didn't have sufficient cocoa powder in it to call it chocolate, then there were British sausages, for similar reasons, not enough pork/beef, there was issue with pork pies, potted shrimps, meatball and pasta to name a few. All done to protect us from falling standards Not to worry. We're scrapping good safety standards and food labelling laws. Whatever will Daily Mail readers be outraged at then! That's the problem." I posted the original.. it was actually reported in The Independent... And other broadsheets... | |||
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"It's just the food labelling. No one it talking about banning the products. Plus no one is forcing you to buy them, are they? That wasn't my point at all. I just meant there's no need to call things chicken style etc when the only thing is in the style of is a blob. Quorn Blobs. Works for me Well quite. But the single and only issue here is how this kind of non-news turns into anti EU sentiment. It's no wonder it was so easy to fool the British public into voting leave. The anti EU sentiment is imagined I hope Sadly not, more people voted leave than remain." Well I loved the EEC and the common market but voted leave... | |||
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"So they are going to spend hours if not weeks debating something that needs no intervention as putting veggie in the description of a burger, sausage ect sort of describes what it is That's what the EU has been doing year on year. There was an issue with Cadburys chocolate which apparently didn't have sufficient cocoa powder in it to call it chocolate, then there were British sausages, for similar reasons, not enough pork/beef, there was issue with pork pies, potted shrimps, meatball and pasta to name a few. All done to protect us from falling standards Not to worry. We're scrapping good safety standards and food labelling laws. Whatever will Daily Mail readers be outraged at then! That's the problem. I posted the original.. it was actually reported in The Independent... And other broadsheets..." They did. But without the anti information and anti EU stance. | |||
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"So they are going to spend hours if not weeks debating something that needs no intervention as putting veggie in the description of a burger, sausage ect sort of describes what it is That's what the EU has been doing year on year. There was an issue with Cadburys chocolate which apparently didn't have sufficient cocoa powder in it to call it chocolate, then there were British sausages, for similar reasons, not enough pork/beef, there was issue with pork pies, potted shrimps, meatball and pasta to name a few. All done to protect us from falling standards Not to worry. We're scrapping good safety standards and food labelling laws. Whatever will Daily Mail readers be outraged at then! That's the problem. I posted the original.. it was actually reported in The Independent... And other broadsheets... They did. But without the anti information and anti EU stance." And only the usual suspects who keep bringing up the daily mail for some reason known only to them | |||
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"So they are going to spend hours if not weeks debating something that needs no intervention as putting veggie in the description of a burger, sausage ect sort of describes what it is That's what the EU has been doing year on year. There was an issue with Cadburys chocolate which apparently didn't have sufficient cocoa powder in it to call it chocolate, then there were British sausages, for similar reasons, not enough pork/beef, there was issue with pork pies, potted shrimps, meatball and pasta to name a few. All done to protect us from falling standards Not to worry. We're scrapping good safety standards and food labelling laws. Whatever will Daily Mail readers be outraged at then! That's the problem. I posted the original.. it was actually reported in The Independent... And other broadsheets... They did. But without the anti information and anti EU stance. And only the usual suspects who keep bringing up the daily mail for some reason known only to them" Daily mail is the most popular example of a misinformation right wing propaganda rag. Could easily replace it with The Sun or Daily Express. | |||
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"So they are going to spend hours if not weeks debating something that needs no intervention as putting veggie in the description of a burger, sausage ect sort of describes what it is That's what the EU has been doing year on year. There was an issue with Cadburys chocolate which apparently didn't have sufficient cocoa powder in it to call it chocolate, then there were British sausages, for similar reasons, not enough pork/beef, there was issue with pork pies, potted shrimps, meatball and pasta to name a few. All done to protect us from falling standards Not to worry. We're scrapping good safety standards and food labelling laws. Whatever will Daily Mail readers be outraged at then! That's the problem. I posted the original.. it was actually reported in The Independent... And other broadsheets... They did. But without the anti information and anti EU stance. And only the usual suspects who keep bringing up the daily mail for some reason known only to them Daily mail is the most popular example of a misinformation right wing propaganda rag. Could easily replace it with The Sun or Daily Express." Maybe not have a free press then.. only the Guardian and Morning Star allowed and perhaps make it compulsory reading in schools and universiy... | |||
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"So they are going to spend hours if not weeks debating something that needs no intervention as putting veggie in the description of a burger, sausage ect sort of describes what it is That's what the EU has been doing year on year. There was an issue with Cadburys chocolate which apparently didn't have sufficient cocoa powder in it to call it chocolate, then there were British sausages, for similar reasons, not enough pork/beef, there was issue with pork pies, potted shrimps, meatball and pasta to name a few. All done to protect us from falling standards Not to worry. We're scrapping good safety standards and food labelling laws. Whatever will Daily Mail readers be outraged at then! That's the problem. I posted the original.. it was actually reported in The Independent... And other broadsheets... They did. But without the anti information and anti EU stance. And only the usual suspects who keep bringing up the daily mail for some reason known only to them Daily mail is the most popular example of a misinformation right wing propaganda rag. Could easily replace it with The Sun or Daily Express. Maybe not have a free press then.. only the Guardian and Morning Star allowed and perhaps make it compulsory reading in schools and universiy..." I'm not sure anyone has said that but you. They can exist. Just anyone who knows how to fact check glances at the headline and goes "yeah probably not what's happening" | |||
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"Why is it our problem? We voted to leave the EU. We're free now to call our food whatever the fuck we want. " yeh right, whish you were right, but our gov hasnt got the balls | |||
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"So they are going to spend hours if not weeks debating something that needs no intervention as putting veggie in the description of a burger, sausage ect sort of describes what it is That's what the EU has been doing year on year. There was an issue with Cadburys chocolate which apparently didn't have sufficient cocoa powder in it to call it chocolate, then there were British sausages, for similar reasons, not enough pork/beef, there was issue with pork pies, potted shrimps, meatball and pasta to name a few. All done to protect us from falling standards Not to worry. We're scrapping good safety standards and food labelling laws. Whatever will Daily Mail readers be outraged at then! That's the problem. I posted the original.. it was actually reported in The Independent... And other broadsheets... They did. But without the anti information and anti EU stance. And only the usual suspects who keep bringing up the daily mail for some reason known only to them Daily mail is the most popular example of a misinformation right wing propaganda rag. Could easily replace it with The Sun or Daily Express. Maybe not have a free press then.. only the Guardian and Morning Star allowed and perhaps make it compulsory reading in schools and universiy... I'm not sure anyone has said that but you. They can exist. Just anyone who knows how to fact check glances at the headline and goes "yeah probably not what's happening"" Well I am not one of those constantly slagging off the Daily Mail.. I do look at all papers and Guardian in the same bracket.. Like most newspapers.. never let the truth get in the way of a good story... | |||
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" Well I am not one of those constantly slagging off the Daily Mail.. I do look at all papers and Guardian in the same bracket.. Like most newspapers.. never let the truth get in the way of a good story... " False equivalence. All papers get things wrong. All sources slant. Some *way* more than others. When it matters to me I seek out the source material. Here, I just see the normal beat up. | |||
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" Well I am not one of those constantly slagging off the Daily Mail.. I do look at all papers and Guardian in the same bracket.. Like most newspapers.. never let the truth get in the way of a good story... False equivalence. All papers get things wrong. All sources slant. Some *way* more than others. When it matters to me I seek out the source material. Here, I just see the normal beat up. " Well suggest you research the thread directly with EU sources.. simples... | |||
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" Well I am not one of those constantly slagging off the Daily Mail.. I do look at all papers and Guardian in the same bracket.. Like most newspapers.. never let the truth get in the way of a good story... False equivalence. All papers get things wrong. All sources slant. Some *way* more than others. When it matters to me I seek out the source material. Here, I just see the normal beat up. " And please enlighten us with your findings... | |||
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"I haven’t read the entire thread because forget that noise, it’s too long. However, I and many of my friends are veggie/vegan and we honestly don’t give a fuck what they’re called. Want to call it vegan chicken? Cool by us Want to call it “this is not chicken”? Go for it Want to call it pink alternative plant based slices? Also fine What we do find amusing is that the dairy and meat industry seem to be so frightened of this that they’re lobbying for alternative labelling as if they think it’ll make a difference (heh irony). Half of the producers of veggie/vegan “alternatives” also make products with meat and/or dairy in them so they won’t care. The other half will just use clever wording to 1) get around the law and 2) stick a big fuck you to those industries " This.. Succinct and sums it up perfectly.. no hidden agendas with newspapers or Brexit.. Common sense prevails on the doorstep of those doubters and haters | |||
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"I haven’t read the entire thread because forget that noise, it’s too long. However, I and many of my friends are veggie/vegan and we honestly don’t give a fuck what they’re called. Want to call it vegan chicken? Cool by us Want to call it “this is not chicken”? Go for it Want to call it pink alternative plant based slices? Also fine What we do find amusing is that the dairy and meat industry seem to be so frightened of this that they’re lobbying for alternative labelling as if they think it’ll make a difference (heh irony). Half of the producers of veggie/vegan “alternatives” also make products with meat and/or dairy in them so they won’t care. The other half will just use clever wording to 1) get around the law and 2) stick a big fuck you to those industries " Pretty much. And no ta, Tom. It doesn't interest me that much. The dialogue around vegetarians and vegans, and the best up around the EU but not other organisations, interests me more. (And frankly I'm fact checking *quite enough* right now) I'm people watching. | |||
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