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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world." Oh mate. | |||
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"defo not in a womans favour in other parts of the world. I always thought marriage was about 2 people being equals." It's a contract | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world." Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. | |||
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"It is what you both make it " Not on paper it's not that you sign | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. " 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour " Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. " Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world." Do you believe the same for Civil Partnership OP? | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Do you believe the same for Civil Partnership OP? " I believe that is the same result in the female's favour as marriage | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't " Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. | |||
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"It is what you both make it Not on paper it's not that you sign" I’m lost ... you sign a certificate to say your married. Everything else is up to you two to figure out | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world." This is forum paydirt for the lurkers | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. " That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! | |||
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"It is what you both make it Not on paper it's not that you sign I’m lost ... you sign a certificate to say your married. Everything else is up to you two to figure out " Ask a solicitor that silly question | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! " It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. " As ive said well done you | |||
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"It is what you both make it Not on paper it's not that you sign I’m lost ... you sign a certificate to say your married. Everything else is up to you two to figure out Ask a solicitor that silly question " You are obviously upset by something so I’ll leave it there | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. " From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world | |||
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"It is what you both make it Not on paper it's not that you sign I’m lost ... you sign a certificate to say your married. Everything else is up to you two to figure out Ask a solicitor that silly question You are obviously upset by something so I’ll leave it there " Upset nope, infact you made me smile having read your reply several times, it was sweet of you | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world " I certainly wasn't more wealthy than him. I just wanted him out of my life and basically paying him off was he quickest an easiest way. You've obviously got a personal issue either with women or divorce, and I'm sorry to read that. But it's not fair to car us all with the same brush as I said. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world I certainly wasn't more wealthy than him. I just wanted him out of my life and basically paying him off was he quickest an easiest way. You've obviously got a personal issue either with women or divorce, and I'm sorry to read that. But it's not fair to car us all with the same brush as I said. " No personal issues at all or with women, that's not fare is it ? Maybe read a girls magazine from the shelf and see what's going on in the younger generation? About fame and fortune and have a word with the editor | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world " Oh for goodness sake. Firstly we’re not “in history” anymore. Secondly you said the western world in your op, not the world and thirdly I don’t know one female friend/family member who stays at home whilst the man works and fourthly if they do stay at home it’s usually because they’ve given up/put on hold their career to bring up HIS children! | |||
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"i agree with you op. womans minds change with the weather and they often never know what they really want. accept your money" Wow. Have you surveyed every woman to draw that conclusion? Or is this sweeping statement just based on your own experience? | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world Oh for goodness sake. Firstly we’re not “in history” anymore. Secondly you said the western world in your op, not the world and thirdly I don’t know one female friend/family member who stays at home whilst the man works and fourthly if they do stay at home it’s usually because they’ve given up/put on hold their career to bring up HIS children! " That's because the cost of living these days 2 people have to work! Given the choice what would you do? Stay at home living a life of rilley or go to work in Tesco's Your the one that seems angry not me. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world Oh for goodness sake. Firstly we’re not “in history” anymore. Secondly you said the western world in your op, not the world and thirdly I don’t know one female friend/family member who stays at home whilst the man works and fourthly if they do stay at home it’s usually because they’ve given up/put on hold their career to bring up HIS children! That's because the cost of living these days 2 people have to work! Given the choice what would you do? Stay at home living a life of rilley or go to work in Tesco's Your the one that seems angry not me." Angry? No. Just shocked at your comments. What’s working in tescos got to do with anything? And me, I’d work like I always have. | |||
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"i agree with you op. womans minds change with the weather and they often never know what they really want. accept your money Wow. Have you surveyed every woman to draw that conclusion? Or is this sweeping statement just based on your own experience? " I read it in the papers everyday and on the net its in my face! Tell me what's the divorce rate now? And how many women divorce men compared to men divorcing women ? | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world Oh for goodness sake. Firstly we’re not “in history” anymore. Secondly you said the western world in your op, not the world and thirdly I don’t know one female friend/family member who stays at home whilst the man works and fourthly if they do stay at home it’s usually because they’ve given up/put on hold their career to bring up HIS children! That's because the cost of living these days 2 people have to work! Given the choice what would you do? Stay at home living a life of rilley or go to work in Tesco's Your the one that seems angry not me. Angry? No. Just shocked at your comments. What’s working in tescos got to do with anything? And me, I’d work like I always have. " If you can't understand that some people have to work in places like Tesco's! to make ends meet, then i feel sorry for you. | |||
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"i agree with you op. womans minds change with the weather and they often never know what they really want. accept your money Wow. Have you surveyed every woman to draw that conclusion? Or is this sweeping statement just based on your own experience? I read it in the papers everyday and on the net its in my face! Tell me what's the divorce rate now? And how many women divorce men compared to men divorcing women ?" I was responding to another poster about his comments about women's minds changing with the weather and not knowing what they want. But as you're asking, you still haven't told us why you think marriage isn't in men's favour. | |||
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"For my experience the laws regarding financial settlement need looking at and refreshing. And the blame game for a petition is totally inadequate. " Thankyou | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Do you believe the same for Civil Partnership OP? I believe that is the same result in the female's favour as marriage " Wrong! A can of worms OP... | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world Oh for goodness sake. Firstly we’re not “in history” anymore. Secondly you said the western world in your op, not the world and thirdly I don’t know one female friend/family member who stays at home whilst the man works and fourthly if they do stay at home it’s usually because they’ve given up/put on hold their career to bring up HIS children! That's because the cost of living these days 2 people have to work! Given the choice what would you do? Stay at home living a life of rilley or go to work in Tesco's Your the one that seems angry not me. Angry? No. Just shocked at your comments. What’s working in tescos got to do with anything? And me, I’d work like I always have. If you can't understand that some people have to work in places like Tesco's! to make ends meet, then i feel sorry for you." What!?? | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Do you believe the same for Civil Partnership OP? I believe that is the same result in the female's favour as marriage Wrong! A can of worms OP... " Ask a lawyer he would disagree with you | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world Oh for goodness sake. Firstly we’re not “in history” anymore. Secondly you said the western world in your op, not the world and thirdly I don’t know one female friend/family member who stays at home whilst the man works and fourthly if they do stay at home it’s usually because they’ve given up/put on hold their career to bring up HIS children! That's because the cost of living these days 2 people have to work! Given the choice what would you do? Stay at home living a life of rilley or go to work in Tesco's Your the one that seems angry not me. Angry? No. Just shocked at your comments. What’s working in tescos got to do with anything? And me, I’d work like I always have. If you can't understand that some people have to work in places like Tesco's! to make ends meet, then i feel sorry for you. What!?? " Wasn't meant to be a response to you, was the lady above you | |||
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"OP, if you want a discussion, go for it, let us see your argument. If you just want to make blanket statements and tell people they're wrong, that's not as conducive to debate. Mrs TMN " Where's your debate OP? Instead of just accusing all women of being the same. You're making very generalised statements, some of which don't even apply in this day and age. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Do you believe the same for Civil Partnership OP? I believe that is the same result in the female's favour as marriage Wrong! A can of worms OP... " The worms are well and truly out. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour " My daughter, a hard working high achiever would disagree. Her sloth of a husband bled her dry as he lived on her credit. Still trying after the split. | |||
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"Marriage is an archaic practice, initially created to demonstrate one human beings ownership of another’s. Has it evolved? Well yes, one would hope. It now demonstrates a person’s commitment to another with the goal of shared happiness and prosperity. So.... do we really need a ceremony for that? Do we need a signed contract for that? Love is both beautiful and flippant, what you may love today, you may not tomorrow, marriage complicates love, it certainly doesn’t reinforce it. It puts unnecessary pressure on a natural, pure emotion, it cages the bird and clips it’s wings. But I am biased, dressing up in a new suit and signing a scroll, doesn’t reinforce the feelings I have for someone. " Well said ?? | |||
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"Marriage is an archaic practice, initially created to demonstrate one human beings ownership of another’s. Has it evolved? Well yes, one would hope. It now demonstrates a person’s commitment to another with the goal of shared happiness and prosperity. So.... do we really need a ceremony for that? Do we need a signed contract for that? Love is both beautiful and flippant, what you may love today, you may not tomorrow, marriage complicates love, it certainly doesn’t reinforce it. It puts unnecessary pressure on a natural, pure emotion, it cages the bird and clips it’s wings. But I am biased, dressing up in a new suit and signing a scroll, doesn’t reinforce the feelings I have for someone. " Well said | |||
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" My own divorce (petitioned by me due to his affair) split marital assets 70:30 in my favour. We both contributed to equally and both earned roughly the same. It’s in my favour because I have primary care of our children and he has a much higher earning potential. It was not about taking money from my ex, it was about providing a secure future for our children. I’ll never get married again though!" Solicitors also take into account the female's life style for example clothes,a home,money,as well as the children school food clothing and so on i agreed | |||
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"I'm still trying to recover financially from my divorce 10 yrs ago but would i have taken the roof from over my kid heads or not paid for them growing up no and I wouldnt have had it any other way. I can see where your coming from to a degree but how many men walk away from their obligations and go lead happy lives while their ex's suffer married or not this happens and usually it's the woman who has to bring up the kids with no financial support" Women dont get no financial support with children! What planet are you on | |||
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"I'm sure that in this country a man and woman have equally rights within a marriage. Are talking about who is considered to come off best when a marriage breaks down OP?" Equally rights what's that ? | |||
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"I'm still trying to recover financially from my divorce 10 yrs ago but would i have taken the roof from over my kid heads or not paid for them growing up no and I wouldnt have had it any other way. I can see where your coming from to a degree but how many men walk away from their obligations and go lead happy lives while their ex's suffer married or not this happens and usually it's the woman who has to bring up the kids with no financial support Women dont get no financial support with children! What planet are you on " Lots dont. | |||
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"I'm still trying to recover financially from my divorce 10 yrs ago but would i have taken the roof from over my kid heads or not paid for them growing up no and I wouldnt have had it any other way. I can see where your coming from to a degree but how many men walk away from their obligations and go lead happy lives while their ex's suffer married or not this happens and usually it's the woman who has to bring up the kids with no financial support Women dont get no financial support with children! What planet are you on Lots dont. " Show me a government that doesn't support a single mother with children ? | |||
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" My own divorce (petitioned by me due to his affair) split marital assets 70:30 in my favour. We both contributed to equally and both earned roughly the same. It’s in my favour because I have primary care of our children and he has a much higher earning potential. It was not about taking money from my ex, it was about providing a secure future for our children. I’ll never get married again though! Solicitors also take into account the female's life style for example clothes,a home,money,as well as the children school food clothing and so on i agreed " 70% to 30%. You lucky so and so. I got 22% and she got 78%.I'm not bothered, I agreed to it. I didn't want to argue about cash in front of other people. | |||
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"I'm still trying to recover financially from my divorce 10 yrs ago but would i have taken the roof from over my kid heads or not paid for them growing up no and I wouldnt have had it any other way. I can see where your coming from to a degree but how many men walk away from their obligations and go lead happy lives while their ex's suffer married or not this happens and usually it's the woman who has to bring up the kids with no financial support Women dont get no financial support with children! What planet are you on Lots dont. Show me a government that doesn't support a single mother with children ? " But that is the job of the bloody father not the government!!!! Why is it I, as a man with no children, have to pay for pay-nothing absent fathers through my taxes? Riddle me that | |||
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"I'm still trying to recover financially from my divorce 10 yrs ago but would i have taken the roof from over my kid heads or not paid for them growing up no and I wouldnt have had it any other way. I can see where your coming from to a degree but how many men walk away from their obligations and go lead happy lives while their ex's suffer married or not this happens and usually it's the woman who has to bring up the kids with no financial support Women dont get no financial support with children! What planet are you on Lots dont. Show me a government that doesn't support a single mother with children ? " Its not the governments responsibility its the parents, both parents including the father. | |||
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"I'm still trying to recover financially from my divorce 10 yrs ago but would i have taken the roof from over my kid heads or not paid for them growing up no and I wouldnt have had it any other way. I can see where your coming from to a degree but how many men walk away from their obligations and go lead happy lives while their ex's suffer married or not this happens and usually it's the woman who has to bring up the kids with no financial support Women dont get no financial support with children! What planet are you on Lots dont. Show me a government that doesn't support a single mother with children ? But that is the job of the bloody father not the government!!!! Why is it I, as a man with no children, have to pay for pay-nothing absent fathers through my taxes? Riddle me that" Tell that to the over populated planet! We have going on at the moment Seems its everyone's right to have a child when i disagree on this point alone Do you know how much a child cost's per year ? | |||
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"I'm still trying to recover financially from my divorce 10 yrs ago but would i have taken the roof from over my kid heads or not paid for them growing up no and I wouldnt have had it any other way. I can see where your coming from to a degree but how many men walk away from their obligations and go lead happy lives while their ex's suffer married or not this happens and usually it's the woman who has to bring up the kids with no financial support Women dont get no financial support with children! What planet are you on Lots dont. Show me a government that doesn't support a single mother with children ? Its not the governments responsibility its the parents, both parents including the father. " It's both you vote for them they make the rules The lack of gov information about this subject! proves my point | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Do you believe the same for Civil Partnership OP? I believe that is the same result in the female's favour as marriage Wrong! A can of worms OP... The worms are well and truly out. " think I’ll need to step back on this one lol | |||
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"I'm still trying to recover financially from my divorce 10 yrs ago but would i have taken the roof from over my kid heads or not paid for them growing up no and I wouldnt have had it any other way. I can see where your coming from to a degree but how many men walk away from their obligations and go lead happy lives while their ex's suffer married or not this happens and usually it's the woman who has to bring up the kids with no financial support Women dont get no financial support with children! What planet are you on Lots dont. Show me a government that doesn't support a single mother with children ? Its not the governments responsibility its the parents, both parents including the father. It's both you vote for them they make the rules The lack of gov information about this subject! proves my point " You are not making any sense. | |||
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"I'm still trying to recover financially from my divorce 10 yrs ago but would i have taken the roof from over my kid heads or not paid for them growing up no and I wouldnt have had it any other way. I can see where your coming from to a degree but how many men walk away from their obligations and go lead happy lives while their ex's suffer married or not this happens and usually it's the woman who has to bring up the kids with no financial support Women dont get no financial support with children! What planet are you on Lots dont. Show me a government that doesn't support a single mother with children ? Its not the governments responsibility its the parents, both parents including the father. It's both you vote for them they make the rules The lack of gov information about this subject! proves my point You are not making any sense. " Im still waiting for you to respond about the women that don't get financial help with children | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Do you believe the same for Civil Partnership OP? I believe that is the same result in the female's favour as marriage Wrong! A can of worms OP... The worms are well and truly out. think I’ll need to step back on this one lol " Truth hurts | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour " In my own case it was most certainly not in this woman's favour. I came away from the divorce with nothing other than the entire marriage debt which he racked up in my name. I am 8 years into a 10 year repayment plan. He refused to disclose his assets and finances and I couldn't afford to challenge him. After selling the family home he bought a new house and was able to get a mortgage but I was not able to without paying double the deposit than he did due to the debt. I moved myself and our 2 children into rented accommodation and until I clear the debt that is where we will remain. I am not resentful towards him, rather I am super proud of myself for working on clearing the debt and showing my children how to manage finances properly by budgeting and saving. OP I don't waste my time expecting good fortune or that I am owed something from the legal system or society, I have come through a divorce, the loss of my mum as a child and a step father who spent my inheritance. I don't care about money or material things, I just want to live a happy life with my own little family. Her x | |||
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"I'm still trying to recover financially from my divorce 10 yrs ago but would i have taken the roof from over my kid heads or not paid for them growing up no and I wouldnt have had it any other way. I can see where your coming from to a degree but how many men walk away from their obligations and go lead happy lives while their ex's suffer married or not this happens and usually it's the woman who has to bring up the kids with no financial support Women dont get no financial support with children! What planet are you on Lots dont. Show me a government that doesn't support a single mother with children ? But that is the job of the bloody father not the government!!!! Why is it I, as a man with no children, have to pay for pay-nothing absent fathers through my taxes? Riddle me that Tell that to the over populated planet! We have going on at the moment Seems its everyone's right to have a child when i disagree on this point alone Do you know how much a child cost's per year ?" To be fair OP. I’m not sure what your point is anymore, no offence, do men get a rough ride in divorce settlements? My experience no, they get to pay for the benefits that they had from the marriage, usually someone sacrificing their career to bring up the children, or keep house for them. When I got divorced I walked away from the house and started again, as I had given my wife the option to work or not to and she decided not to. She kept the house going and made herself difficult to employ after the fact, I wasn’t going to see her homeless. If we had had children, I would have made sure that the money (and hopefully my presence in some form) was there as they grew up. I guess we all think in our own way | |||
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"I'm still trying to recover financially from my divorce 10 yrs ago but would i have taken the roof from over my kid heads or not paid for them growing up no and I wouldnt have had it any other way. I can see where your coming from to a degree but how many men walk away from their obligations and go lead happy lives while their ex's suffer married or not this happens and usually it's the woman who has to bring up the kids with no financial support Women dont get no financial support with children! What planet are you on Lots dont. Show me a government that doesn't support a single mother with children ? But that is the job of the bloody father not the government!!!! Why is it I, as a man with no children, have to pay for pay-nothing absent fathers through my taxes? Riddle me that Tell that to the over populated planet! We have going on at the moment Seems its everyone's right to have a child when i disagree on this point alone Do you know how much a child cost's per year ?" Do you know how much it costs to raise a child OP? I know how much it costs to raise my two because I'm doing it. Everyones circumstances are different though. Also people's situations change for varying reasons. You're generalising again. You seem to be getting very wound up about marriage,divorce, single parents and the cost of raising children based mainly on stereotypes. | |||
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"I'm still trying to recover financially from my divorce 10 yrs ago but would i have taken the roof from over my kid heads or not paid for them growing up no and I wouldnt have had it any other way. I can see where your coming from to a degree but how many men walk away from their obligations and go lead happy lives while their ex's suffer married or not this happens and usually it's the woman who has to bring up the kids with no financial support Women dont get no financial support with children! What planet are you on Lots dont. Show me a government that doesn't support a single mother with children ? But that is the job of the bloody father not the government!!!! Why is it I, as a man with no children, have to pay for pay-nothing absent fathers through my taxes? Riddle me that Tell that to the over populated planet! We have going on at the moment Seems its everyone's right to have a child when i disagree on this point alone Do you know how much a child cost's per year ? Do you know how much it costs to raise a child OP? I know how much it costs to raise my two because I'm doing it. Everyones circumstances are different though. Also people's situations change for varying reasons. You're generalising again. You seem to be getting very wound up about marriage,divorce, single parents and the cost of raising children based mainly on stereotypes. " No my dear facts and the mindset of many who are poorly educated, who 1/2 a chromosome away from a chimpanzee | |||
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"My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with." Does that mean he left with the same personal wealth as when you got married? That would be a significant loss for many people. (Sorry if you've answered this already - it's a long thread..) | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world I certainly wasn't more wealthy than him. I just wanted him out of my life and basically paying him off was he quickest an easiest way. You've obviously got a personal issue either with women or divorce, and I'm sorry to read that. But it's not fair to car us all with the same brush as I said. No personal issues at all or with women, that's not fare is it ? Maybe read a girls magazine from the shelf and see what's going on in the younger generation? About fame and fortune and have a word with the editor " That's got nothing to do with whatever point you're trying to make. | |||
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"My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. Does that mean he left with the same personal wealth as when you got married? That would be a significant loss for many people. (Sorry if you've answered this already - it's a long thread..)" Yes it does. Financially he's set for life, I'm not and never have been interested in any of it. | |||
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" My own divorce (petitioned by me due to his affair) split marital assets 70:30 in my favour. We both contributed to equally and both earned roughly the same. It’s in my favour because I have primary care of our children and he has a much higher earning potential. It was not about taking money from my ex, it was about providing a secure future for our children. I’ll never get married again though! Solicitors also take into account the female's life style for example clothes,a home,money,as well as the children school food clothing and so on i agreed 70% to 30%. You lucky so and so. I got 22% and she got 78%.I'm not bothered, I agreed to it. I didn't want to argue about cash in front of other people. " It’s not lucky, it’s a fair split. Obviously I can’t comment on yours but mine was very amicably decided because there are children involved. As for the comment previously, it’s not solicitors that decide on how to split assets fairly. My ‘lifestyle’ was never funded by my ex husband, and vice versa. The fact is, many women take career breaks, give up work or take lower paid positions to enable their husbands to continue to do their job and earn a higher amount and when separated, that can be compounded. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour " I don’t agree..... I know a man that was extremely better off being married and now very well looked after in spousal maintenance, it all depends on your situation and outlook I suppose. Generalisations never really go down well as there are so many situations to consider. | |||
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" My own divorce (petitioned by me due to his affair) split marital assets 70:30 in my favour. We both contributed to equally and both earned roughly the same. It’s in my favour because I have primary care of our children and he has a much higher earning potential. It was not about taking money from my ex, it was about providing a secure future for our children. I’ll never get married again though! Solicitors also take into account the female's life style for example clothes,a home,money,as well as the children school food clothing and so on i agreed 70% to 30%. You lucky so and so. I got 22% and she got 78%.I'm not bothered, I agreed to it. I didn't want to argue about cash in front of other people. It’s not lucky, it’s a fair split. Obviously I can’t comment on yours but mine was very amicably decided because there are children involved. As for the comment previously, it’s not solicitors that decide on how to split assets fairly. My ‘lifestyle’ was never funded by my ex husband, and vice versa. The fact is, many women take career breaks, give up work or take lower paid positions to enable their husbands to continue to do their job and earn a higher amount and when separated, that can be compounded. " I signed over a business, which should net her 100k a Year. She's also asked for 1k a month. Request denied. My son is earning (19yr old), I Pay him £250 a month. He also has a trust fund to get a house with. I genuinely want to look after both of them,but she was a little greedy. But marriage breakdown was my fault so I was prepared to take a financial beating | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world." I beg to differ, I get to wake up every morning with a gorgeous lady by my side. To spend romantic moments or nights of passion, to hold hands and snog in the street like teenagers. Plus she doesn't mind sharing me with other ladies. What's the downside? Cal | |||
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" My own divorce (petitioned by me due to his affair) split marital assets 70:30 in my favour. We both contributed to equally and both earned roughly the same. It’s in my favour because I have primary care of our children and he has a much higher earning potential. It was not about taking money from my ex, it was about providing a secure future for our children. I’ll never get married again though! Solicitors also take into account the female's life style for example clothes,a home,money,as well as the children school food clothing and so on i agreed 70% to 30%. You lucky so and so. I got 22% and she got 78%.I'm not bothered, I agreed to it. I didn't want to argue about cash in front of other people. It’s not lucky, it’s a fair split. Obviously I can’t comment on yours but mine was very amicably decided because there are children involved. As for the comment previously, it’s not solicitors that decide on how to split assets fairly. My ‘lifestyle’ was never funded by my ex husband, and vice versa. The fact is, many women take career breaks, give up work or take lower paid positions to enable their husbands to continue to do their job and earn a higher amount and when separated, that can be compounded. " It's not fair at all! Like i said women are divorcing men much more than men are divorcing women | |||
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"I had to pay my first husband in the divorce. He’s never paid a penny child support for our son and the house was in my name but I had to pay him off when I sold it. " But but but The men are losers in a marriaaaaage | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. I beg to differ, I get to wake up every morning with a gorgeous lady by my side. To spend romantic moments or nights of passion, to hold hands and snog in the street like teenagers. Plus she doesn't mind sharing me with other ladies. What's the downside? Cal" You sound like your submissive in many way's Good luck with that | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. I beg to differ, I get to wake up every morning with a gorgeous lady by my side. To spend romantic moments or nights of passion, to hold hands and snog in the street like teenagers. Plus she doesn't mind sharing me with other ladies. What's the downside? Cal You sound like your submissive in many way's Good luck with that " Yes. A man in a happy marriage MUST be submissive. Maybe OP, just maybe....people can be happy with those they love | |||
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"I had to pay my first husband in the divorce. He’s never paid a penny child support for our son and the house was in my name but I had to pay him off when I sold it. " Wrong choice of man? | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. I beg to differ, I get to wake up every morning with a gorgeous lady by my side. To spend romantic moments or nights of passion, to hold hands and snog in the street like teenagers. Plus she doesn't mind sharing me with other ladies. What's the downside? Cal You sound like your submissive in many way's Good luck with that Yes. A man in a happy marriage MUST be submissive. Maybe OP, just maybe....people can be happy with those they love " Must be! Submissive? Where did you get that ridiculous idea from TV? | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. I beg to differ, I get to wake up every morning with a gorgeous lady by my side. To spend romantic moments or nights of passion, to hold hands and snog in the street like teenagers. Plus she doesn't mind sharing me with other ladies. What's the downside? Cal You sound like your submissive in many way's Good luck with that " What a daft thing to say. You sound very bitter about marriage OP. You can't tar all marriages with the same brush you know. | |||
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"Didn’t realise we were still in the 1950’s. You do realise plenty of women work. House husbands are also a thing now. Marriage is what you make of it. Not everything is about money " House husband's! Where did you get that idea from! To many soap operas ? | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. I beg to differ, I get to wake up every morning with a gorgeous lady by my side. To spend romantic moments or nights of passion, to hold hands and snog in the street like teenagers. Plus she doesn't mind sharing me with other ladies. What's the downside? Cal You sound like your submissive in many way's Good luck with that What a daft thing to say. You sound very bitter about marriage OP. You can't tar all marriages with the same brush you know." Daft being a submissive/slave? Im not bitter at all im having a wonderful day | |||
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"Don't quite understand why not OP. When you are married to the right person, you can't beat it. Love, trust, support, being with your best friend and soulmate, sharing a life together, what's not to love about it." There's no such thing as a soulmate. But married to the right person for the right reason is correct The trouble is we don't communicate enough to find the right person | |||
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"I'm still trying to recover financially from my divorce 10 yrs ago but would i have taken the roof from over my kid heads or not paid for them growing up no and I wouldnt have had it any other way. I can see where your coming from to a degree but how many men walk away from their obligations and go lead happy lives while their ex's suffer married or not this happens and usually it's the woman who has to bring up the kids with no financial support Women dont get no financial support with children! What planet are you on Lots dont. Show me a government that doesn't support a single mother with children ? " Fathers should support their children. It's the only thing my ex did, for which I was thankful. I had a career also thankfully. He treated our marraige as a joke, I finally asked him to leave and instigated a divorce. I got the house, he kept his police pension. Why is it men think all the money is there's and, all parental responsibility is their ex wife's | |||
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"Don't quite understand why not OP. When you are married to the right person, you can't beat it. Love, trust, support, being with your best friend and soulmate, sharing a life together, what's not to love about it. There's no such thing as a soulmate. But married to the right person for the right reason is correct The trouble is we don't communicate enough to find the right person " Yes there is such a thing as soulmate. That one person who means the world to you and you are totally compatible and happy with. | |||
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"Don't quite understand why not OP. When you are married to the right person, you can't beat it. Love, trust, support, being with your best friend and soulmate, sharing a life together, what's not to love about it. There's no such thing as a soulmate. But married to the right person for the right reason is correct The trouble is we don't communicate enough to find the right person Yes there is such a thing as soulmate. That one person who means the world to you and you are totally compatible and happy with. " There's no such thing as a soul or any evidence of one ever. | |||
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"Op. I think you’re bitter from a personal experience and you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. You are therefore tarring everyone with the same brush which people sometimes do. I hope the future is brighter for you and you find love " Nope just observed alot of bullying nonsense going on, but im not surprised, As we are only 1/2 a chromosome away from a chimpanzee | |||
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"Don't quite understand why not OP. When you are married to the right person, you can't beat it. Love, trust, support, being with your best friend and soulmate, sharing a life together, what's not to love about it. There's no such thing as a soulmate. But married to the right person for the right reason is correct The trouble is we don't communicate enough to find the right person Yes there is such a thing as soulmate. That one person who means the world to you and you are totally compatible and happy with. There's no such thing as a soul or any evidence of one ever." We shall agree to disagree | |||
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"Don't quite understand why not OP. When you are married to the right person, you can't beat it. Love, trust, support, being with your best friend and soulmate, sharing a life together, what's not to love about it. There's no such thing as a soulmate. But married to the right person for the right reason is correct The trouble is we don't communicate enough to find the right person Yes there is such a thing as soulmate. That one person who means the world to you and you are totally compatible and happy with. There's no such thing as a soul or any evidence of one ever. We shall agree to disagree " I've had this discussion before and i know the history behind it Thanks for not getting me started on this topic | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. I beg to differ, I get to wake up every morning with a gorgeous lady by my side. To spend romantic moments or nights of passion, to hold hands and snog in the street like teenagers. Plus she doesn't mind sharing me with other ladies. What's the downside? Cal ----- You sound like your submissive in many way's Good luck with that " And you sound like someone who makes huge sweeping comments with no evidence whatsoever, and also has poor grammar... Good luck with that | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour " My ex earned a hell of a lot more than me, so financially it ended up massively in my favour. Nothing to do with gender. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. I beg to differ, I get to wake up every morning with a gorgeous lady by my side. To spend romantic moments or nights of passion, to hold hands and snog in the street like teenagers. Plus she doesn't mind sharing me with other ladies. What's the downside? Cal ----- You sound like your submissive in many way's Good luck with that And you sound like someone who makes huge sweeping comments with no evidence whatsoever, and also has poor grammar... Good luck with that " I don't need luck thanks jog on | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. I beg to differ, I get to wake up every morning with a gorgeous lady by my side. To spend romantic moments or nights of passion, to hold hands and snog in the street like teenagers. Plus she doesn't mind sharing me with other ladies. What's the downside? Cal ----- You sound like your submissive in many way's Good luck with that And you sound like someone who makes huge sweeping comments with no evidence whatsoever, and also has poor grammar... Good luck with that I don't need luck thanks jog on " No? Me either, not sure why YOU suggested I did. I don't do jogging either, if I'm going to run I'll run, I will leave the jogging on to yourself. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Do you believe the same for Civil Partnership OP? I believe that is the same result in the female's favour as marriage Wrong! A can of worms OP... The worms are well and truly out. think I’ll need to step back on this one lol Truth hurts " My reasons for stepping back are my life experiences. Mine not yours or any other posters. You would have known the shit storm you were creating when you posted! Your clearly a very sad bitter man who has no idea of another’s ‘truth’ only your own which you’ve chosen to portray towards women in general. A very unattractive judgemental attitude to have! Like you I am entitled to opinion which I have no doubt you will express. I wish you well OP. Take care | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Do you believe the same for Civil Partnership OP? I believe that is the same result in the female's favour as marriage Wrong! A can of worms OP... The worms are well and truly out. think I’ll need to step back on this one lol Truth hurts My reasons for stepping back are my life experiences. Mine not yours or any other posters. You would have known the shit storm you were creating when you posted! Your clearly a very sad bitter man who has no idea of another’s ‘truth’ only your own which you’ve chosen to portray towards women in general. A very unattractive judgemental attitude to have! Like you I am entitled to opinion which I have no doubt you will express. I wish you well OP. Take care " A bullying patronising attitude won't get you anywhere, when did i ever say you wasn't intitiled opinion ? I've addressed this subject from what i see witness hear in society everyday! Always putting men down! even on here on here Cinderella is just a movie and it stinks | |||
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"defo not in a womans favour in other parts of the world. I always thought marriage was about 2 people being equals." Equal...lol. | |||
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"defo not in a womans favour in other parts of the world. I always thought marriage was about 2 people being equals. Equal...lol. " We're equals. We both give, we both take. We've been married 11yrs and together nearly 17. We're doing OK | |||
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"defo not in a womans favour in other parts of the world. I always thought marriage was about 2 people being equals. Equal...lol. We're equals. We both give, we both take. We've been married 11yrs and together nearly 17. We're doing OK " Is a Male lion and a lioness Equal? | |||
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"defo not in a womans favour in other parts of the world. I always thought marriage was about 2 people being equals. Equal...lol. We're equals. We both give, we both take. We've been married 11yrs and together nearly 17. We're doing OK Is a Male lion and a lioness Equal?" Irrelevant, we're not lions, at least not last time I checked | |||
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"defo not in a womans favour in other parts of the world. I always thought marriage was about 2 people being equals. Equal...lol. We're equals. We both give, we both take. We've been married 11yrs and together nearly 17. We're doing OK Is a Male lion and a lioness Equal? Irrelevant, we're not lions, at least not last time I checked " maybe monkey see monkey do | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world Oh for goodness sake. Firstly we’re not “in history” anymore. Secondly you said the western world in your op, not the world and thirdly I don’t know one female friend/family member who stays at home whilst the man works and fourthly if they do stay at home it’s usually because they’ve given up/put on hold their career to bring up HIS children! " *their children | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. " Happy married men live long lol | |||
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"defo not in a womans favour in other parts of the world. I always thought marriage was about 2 people being equals. Equal...lol. We're equals. We both give, we both take. We've been married 11yrs and together nearly 17. We're doing OK Is a Male lion and a lioness Equal?" No the male lion stands around pretending to protect while the lioness gets the food | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol " Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world Oh for goodness sake. Firstly we’re not “in history” anymore. Secondly you said the western world in your op, not the world and thirdly I don’t know one female friend/family member who stays at home whilst the man works and fourthly if they do stay at home it’s usually because they’ve given up/put on hold their career to bring up HIS children! *their children " No it wasn’t an error, deliberately used in this comment. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world Oh for goodness sake. Firstly we’re not “in history” anymore. Secondly you said the western world in your op, not the world and thirdly I don’t know one female friend/family member who stays at home whilst the man works and fourthly if they do stay at home it’s usually because they’ve given up/put on hold their career to bring up HIS children! That's because the cost of living these days 2 people have to work! Given the choice what would you do? Stay at home living a life of rilley or go to work in Tesco's Your the one that seems angry not me." "Get her popcorn- pulls up a chair & pours a gin " | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... " Where's General in USA ? | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? " Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world " that's a dark age view so is your view that men are worser off coming out a marriage and is so jot the case | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth." Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour " If only. I left with less than I went in with. | |||
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"I got divorced recently. 18 years together. 7 married. I put all the money in. I paid for absolutely everything while my ex did 12 to 14 hrs a week. It’s just cost me 1/4 of a million to get divorced. My ex got 50% of the equity. That’s fair. Just smarts because I was the only one making it. I’ve just done a major renovation/development and made back all that plus a load more this past year. Life’s what you make it. " Life is what you make it | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ?" No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't Not all do no but maybe don't tar everyone with the same brush. After 12 years, marriage turned out to not work in my favour but finances had nothing to do with it, more the person I was married to. Each situation is unique. I won't ever put myself in that situation again purely because I don't see the point but some try again and it works for them. That brush your talking about has ruined many men's life's and has taken them year's some forever to recover! Don't talk to me about taring, As i read about men being divorce everyday! It's not just men that get divorced every day. Clearly. Don't tar everyone with the same brush OP, it's not fair. I got divorced because I didn't love my husband and when he cheated on me I realised I was more pissed off that he'd lied to me than hurt he had cheated. He came out of that marriage a lot better off financially than he went in and I was a lot worse off. From history the male is the bread winner the female stays at home. That's how it goes, more women are more weathty these days this is true. But it's still a small percentage in this world that's a dark age view so is your view that men are worser off coming out a marriage and is so jot the case " Someone has already answered your question on this forum and the answer is yes worse off. | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage." the cost of living is high, both parties have to work | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work " What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. | |||
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"defo not in a womans favour in other parts of the world. I always thought marriage was about 2 people being equals." Not bloody likely it's not | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner." Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning | |||
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"defo not in a womans favour in other parts of the world. I always thought marriage was about 2 people being equals. Equal...lol. We're equals. We both give, we both take. We've been married 11yrs and together nearly 17. We're doing OK Is a Male lion and a lioness Equal? Irrelevant, we're not lions, at least not last time I checked maybe monkey see monkey do " Nope, no monkeys either. | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning " If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. " Alot of men aren't happy to be honest and the one's that are, tend to be submissive simps begging for the Wap! | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. Alot of men aren't happy to be honest and the one's that are, tend to be submissive simps begging for the Wap!" So its not only women you have dim view of, its men too. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. 1, Financial it's not in a man's favour Erm... okay. My ex husband left our marriage with everything he started with. I certainly didn't marry him for his money and I made that clear from the start. Well done you for sticking with your honour Many don't " My ex left with more than he entered with. | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. Alot of men aren't happy to be honest and the one's that are, tend to be submissive simps begging for the Wap! So its not only women you have dim view of, its men too. " You will have to ask some other guys, Me im a happy chappy | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. Alot of men aren't happy to be honest and the one's that are, tend to be submissive simps begging for the Wap! So its not only women you have dim view of, its men too. You will have to ask some other guys, Me im a happy chappy " You aren't coming across that way | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. Alot of men aren't happy to be honest and the one's that are, tend to be submissive simps begging for the Wap! So its not only women you have dim view of, its men too. You will have to ask some other guys, Me im a happy chappy You aren't coming across that way " and whose fault is this it's so easy to assume and be judgemental Hang the messenger | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. Alot of men aren't happy to be honest and the one's that are, tend to be submissive simps begging for the Wap! So its not only women you have dim view of, its men too. You will have to ask some other guys, Me im a happy chappy You aren't coming across that way and whose fault is this it's so easy to assume and be judgemental Hang the messenger " You are accusing others of being judgemental! | |||
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"I read half the thread. It seems OP just has an axe to grind, so I'm back to the virus forum. Pathogens are easier to understand than men who appear to have a chip on their shoulder. " Sticks and stones | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world." If that's the way you feel. don't get married. | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. Alot of men aren't happy to be honest and the one's that are, tend to be submissive simps begging for the Wap! So its not only women you have dim view of, its men too. You will have to ask some other guys, Me im a happy chappy You aren't coming across that way and whose fault is this it's so easy to assume and be judgemental Hang the messenger " It’s all your fault. You’ve been spouting drivel throughout the thread, going off topic to suit your ‘bizarre’ views on society, be it women aren’t allowed to work, men are submissive if happy. You even resorted to mansplaining at one point, which was almost your lowest point, but then you suggested relationships where all akin to lions or monkeys. As for saying ‘it’s easy to be judgemental‘ pot kettle | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. Alot of men aren't happy to be honest and the one's that are, tend to be submissive simps begging for the Wap! So its not only women you have dim view of, its men too. You will have to ask some other guys, Me im a happy chappy You aren't coming across that way and whose fault is this it's so easy to assume and be judgemental Hang the messenger You are accusing others of being judgemental! " People are intittled to their opinion Im still waiting for you to tell me how the government doesn't support a single mother with children You said "some don't get support" ? | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. Alot of men aren't happy to be honest and the one's that are, tend to be submissive simps begging for the Wap! So its not only women you have dim view of, its men too. You will have to ask some other guys, Me im a happy chappy You aren't coming across that way and whose fault is this it's so easy to assume and be judgemental Hang the messenger It’s all your fault. You’ve been spouting drivel throughout the thread, going off topic to suit your ‘bizarre’ views on society, be it women aren’t allowed to work, men are submissive if happy. You even resorted to mansplaining at one point, which was almost your lowest point, but then you suggested relationships where all akin to lions or monkeys. As for saying ‘it’s easy to be judgemental‘ pot kettle " Sticks and stones | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. Alot of men aren't happy to be honest and the one's that are, tend to be submissive simps begging for the Wap! So its not only women you have dim view of, its men too. You will have to ask some other guys, Me im a happy chappy You aren't coming across that way and whose fault is this it's so easy to assume and be judgemental Hang the messenger You are accusing others of being judgemental! People are intittled to their opinion Im still waiting for you to tell me how the government doesn't support a single mother with children You said "some don't get support" ?" I did explain it to so did many others. And I didn't say that. | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. Alot of men aren't happy to be honest and the one's that are, tend to be submissive simps begging for the Wap! So its not only women you have dim view of, its men too. You will have to ask some other guys, Me im a happy chappy You aren't coming across that way and whose fault is this it's so easy to assume and be judgemental Hang the messenger You are accusing others of being judgemental! People are intittled to their opinion Im still waiting for you to tell me how the government doesn't support a single mother with children You said "some don't get support" ? I did explain it to so did many others. And I didn't say that. " Lots dont ! get support.. your words.. It's written on here, you wrote it And why are you bringing other people into this ??? | |||
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"defo not in a womans favour in other parts of the world. I always thought marriage was about 2 people being equals. Equal...lol. We're equals. We both give, we both take. We've been married 11yrs and together nearly 17. We're doing OK Is a Male lion and a lioness Equal?" Quite a bad example given lionesses do the vast majority of the hunting whilst the lions sit about. Or are you saying you want to be a kept man? | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. Alot of men aren't happy to be honest and the one's that are, tend to be submissive simps begging for the Wap! So its not only women you have dim view of, its men too. You will have to ask some other guys, Me im a happy chappy You aren't coming across that way and whose fault is this it's so easy to assume and be judgemental Hang the messenger You are accusing others of being judgemental! People are intittled to their opinion Im still waiting for you to tell me how the government doesn't support a single mother with children You said "some don't get support" ? I did explain it to so did many others. And I didn't say that. Lots dont ! get support.. your words.. It's written on here, you wrote it And why are you bringing other people into this ???" Yes they can read it. People can definitely see what has been going on in this thread. | |||
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"defo not in a womans favour in other parts of the world. I always thought marriage was about 2 people being equals. Equal...lol. We're equals. We both give, we both take. We've been married 11yrs and together nearly 17. We're doing OK Is a Male lion and a lioness Equal? Quite a bad example given lionesses do the vast majority of the hunting whilst the lions sit about. Or are you saying you want to be a kept man? " The question was! are they equal ?regardless of any extra personal opinion | |||
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"Marriage works for us. We have been a couple over 20 years and married for 15. A good marriage is a partnership and apparently happily married men live longer too. Happy married men live long lol Actually, on checking... evidence suggests that married people live longer in general... Where's General in USA ? Western world. Where we have more equality and women rarely die in childbirth. Did i ever say, you did not have those rights and freedoms ? No, but it's women's rights and freedoms that make a modern marriage equally beneficial for both parties. Women are no longer expected to simply be baby making machines, tied to the house. Historically, men very much had the upper hand in any marriage. the cost of living is high, both parties have to work What has that to do with anything? Other than a excuse to keep the woman at home. For many years I was the main wage earner. Im saying..couples both have to go out to work because the cost of living is high. Both bread winning If that's what they choose to do and many don't. If they are happy with their situation then thats all that matters. Alot of men aren't happy to be honest and the one's that are, tend to be submissive simps begging for the Wap! So its not only women you have dim view of, its men too. You will have to ask some other guys, Me im a happy chappy You aren't coming across that way and whose fault is this it's so easy to assume and be judgemental Hang the messenger You are accusing others of being judgemental! People are intittled to their opinion Im still waiting for you to tell me how the government doesn't support a single mother with children You said "some don't get support" ? I did explain it to so did many others. And I didn't say that. Lots dont ! get support.. your words.. It's written on here, you wrote it And why are you bringing other people into this ??? Yes they can read it. People can definitely see what has been going on in this thread. " Great thats the whole point. Thanks for tuning in | |||
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"Ladies and gents, complete the sentence..... ..... Don't feed the ?" I wonder why are you involving other people ? seems a bit threatening bullying behaviour ? | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. " I think he would prefer what's going on in some countries where mans can marriage more than one woman and where women have no rights | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. I think he would prefer what's going on in some countries where mans can marriage more than one woman and where women have no rights " Stick with thinking for yourself | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world. Eh? Sorry, not being ignorant but genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say. I think he would prefer what's going on in some countries where mans can marriage more than one woman and where women have no rights " Or maybe he’s saved a few quid, bought his own house and doesn’t want to lose 70:30 to some gold digger who lies about being on the pill.... Just playing devils advocate here. | |||
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"It's not in a man's favour in the Western world." The biggest mistake I’ve ever made | |||
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"Ladies and gents, complete the sentence..... ..... Don't feed the ? I wonder why are you involving other people ? seems a bit threatening bullying behaviour ? " They’re involving people because it’s a forum.... No threatening or bullying there at all | |||
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"Ladies and gents, complete the sentence..... ..... Don't feed the ? I wonder why are you involving other people ? seems a bit threatening bullying behaviour ? They’re involving people because it’s a forum.... No threatening or bullying there at all" | |||
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"Ladies and gents, complete the sentence..... ..... Don't feed the ? I wonder why are you involving other people ? seems a bit threatening bullying behaviour ? They’re involving people because it’s a forum.... No threatening or bullying there at all" According to you who's just arrived | |||
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