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Yes the real truth if it got out there about swingers and swinging. We get far more wanting to join the site and the life style as folk would relate to it and most of people out there would start to have respect for what we doing
This is why there is little repect out there for whatr we are doing
One folk out there think we all at it like rabbits with everyone we meet not the case for most swingers for most havnt the time to give that much time to it. has folk have work family and the like and other stuff they have to deal with
Two all at diffent levels and most who do this wont just go with anything like folk in the main stream world do some dont even swing who are on the site and other parts of the swinging world and there are many reason for that
Three cos of small number who will just go with anything they meet are giving us all a hrad time of it and making hard work for true swingers who know it not just about fuck and go
Four cos of the full on ones a lot os single men on here think ita free for allwhich is isnt. They message cuoples and single women have no respect havnt got a clue think we all full on. That we will drop our knickers at a drop of a hat. its what most cuoples wont have anythign to do with single men and why women leave in numbers and the message they get from this men who dont have a clue are awful
Five all on here are at diffrent levels some as ive said before who are on here dont even swing most who do this are middle of the road not full on and wont just go with anythign they meet like in real life poeple are fussy
Six folk who think cos they are talking to someone it will lead to sex you cant assume anything for one till you meet some one you wont know where they are at with this it has to find it self pusjing it wont get you anywhere
Seven if the truth real got out there that most who do this are middle of the road and who will want a spark to happen like in real life befor anything happens
Now im going to open this see what folk say
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"Gave up after the first couple of sentences.
I should have gave up...... I reread it three times  "
I must it was hard to make sense of.
I think the OP is saying, in a long winded way, men stop thinking of this site as Instashag  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sry to burst your bubble passion queen but swinging and Fab is whatever you want it to be.
Some might say as a singleton your not even a swinger as only couples can be swingers but that's another debate. Personally I don't mind.
Your post comes across exactly the same as your profile full of what you want and what you want out of it , swinging I'm afraid is simply about sharing , sharing your sex life , sharing your partner, sharing your urges etc.
You mention a ratio of 100 guys to 1 female so YOU make the rules, erm naw, you only have an equal share in decision making. You fell into the Fab trap of thinking because there are more guys than women , messages equal I'm so hot and can do what I want, erm naw again , your still just you. I suggest before you preach to others the rules of engagement where swinging is concerned you look at your own use of the word firstly.
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Whilst our society is still fairly uptight about sex, the Disney dream of a monogamous Prince and Princess living happily ever after, pervades life to the extent that 18 years old are looking for The One, before living an adult life etc, we'll get people scornful of others that they are ignorant of.
Plus the people in the closed relationships will venture outside, when they are unhappy, when it's not the total Disney fulfilment they'd yearned for.
The rest - the single men demanding the instant fucks without mature consideration of others, seemingly not having considered their demanded human sex toy as a real, thinking person, are reflective of a culture with diminished respect for others and an hierarchical, male dominated culture that persists. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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People in the real world don’t care what swingers get up to, they’ve got far more important issues to deal with, on the list of topics talked about swinging is up there with celery and tog ratings on duvets. |
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"What's a real swinger? "
I'm glad you asked.... I'm intrigued myself, it would seem they are rather special and that you must do certain things to be called a real swinger. And if you don't do them, it appears most irritating to real swingers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"on the list of topics talked about swinging is up there with celery and tog ratings on duvets. "
Haven't had a coversation about tog ratings yet. But have had one about celery on Fab. Does that make me almost a swinger? |
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"Sry to burst your bubble passion queen but swinging and Fab is whatever you want it to be.
Some might say as a singleton your not even a swinger as only couples can be swingers but that's another debate. Personally I don't mind.
Your post comes across exactly the same as your profile full of what you want and what you want out of it , swinging I'm afraid is simply about sharing , sharing your sex life , sharing your partner, sharing your urges etc.
You mention a ratio of 100 guys to 1 female so YOU make the rules, erm naw, you only have an equal share in decision making. You fell into the Fab trap of thinking because there are more guys than women , messages equal I'm so hot and can do what I want, erm naw again , your still just you. I suggest before you preach to others the rules of engagement where swinging is concerned you look at your own use of the word firstly.
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Well it frist about respect that some on here dont have |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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You mention a ratio of 100 guys to 1 female so YOU make the rules, erm naw, you only have an equal share in decision making. You fell into the Fab trap of thinking because there are more guys than women , messages equal I'm so hot and can do what I want, erm naw again , your still just you.
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Our experience is women find it just as hard to meet a guy, the amount of genuine guys is very low, sure you can grab some horny loser and have a fuck (if they turn up) , enjoy , but the good ones have very high standards. |
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"on the list of topics talked about swinging is up there with celery and tog ratings on duvets.
Haven't had a coversation about tog ratings yet. But have had one about celery on Fab. Does that make me almost a swinger?"
I just bought myself a 12.5 tog quilt. What do you use? |
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Different people have different versions of their own truth based on their experiences.
My truth is the scene is rife with men who will lie, cheat, abuse and manipulate.
My truth is there are women who will lie, cheat, abuse and manipulate.
My truth is the scene is brimming with substance and alcohol abuse.
My truth is for many I'm seen as a vagina, not a human being.
My truth is if you're really lucky you can meet some beautiful souls who you become lifelong friends with. I've been really lucky.
I wouldn't want to introduce people I care about into the scene. It does have some superb and wonderful people in it, but there is far more toxicity than people will admit to. |
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"What's a real swinger? "
Someone who has no time scale for it it happens when it happens dose not push lets it find it own way but most of never assume anything and have full repesct of others but most of knows that ever time you talk to someone on ehre and in the swinging world that know not ever time it going to lead to sex
if ir happens it happen if dont it dont that is true swinger |
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"Different people have different versions of their own truth based on their experiences.
My truth is the scene is rife with men who will lie, cheat, abuse and manipulate.
My truth is there are women who will lie, cheat, abuse and manipulate.
My truth is the scene is brimming with substance and alcohol abuse.
My truth is for many I'm seen as a vagina, not a human being.
My truth is if you're really lucky you can meet some beautiful souls who you become lifelong friends with. I've been really lucky.
I wouldn't want to introduce people I care about into the scene. It does have some superb and wonderful people in it, but there is far more toxicity than people will admit to."
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"Our experience is women find it just as hard to meet a guy, the amount of genuine guys is very low, sure you can grab some horny loser and have a fuck (if they turn up) , enjoy , but the good ones have very high standards."
I've not been in this world long enough to be considered good, bad or indifferent, but I will always turn up. Whether I'm a disappointment to the lady at that stage I couldn't say. Arguably more likely to be during and after, if I'm honest
I've now forgotten where I was going with this when I started typing it out  Must be a middle age thing....  |
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You mention a ratio of 100 guys to 1 female so YOU make the rules, erm naw, you only have an equal share in decision making. You fell into the Fab trap of thinking because there are more guys than women , messages equal I'm so hot and can do what I want, erm naw again , your still just you.
Our experience is women find it just as hard to meet a guy, the amount of genuine guys is very low, sure you can grab some horny loser and have a fuck (if they turn up) , enjoy , but the good ones have very high standards."
At last some one has got what im saying this isnt a free for all |
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"What's a real swinger?
I'm glad you asked.... I'm intrigued myself, it would seem they are rather special and that you must do certain things to be called a real swinger. And if you don't do them, it appears most irritating to real swingers. "
Someone who dose not assume and let sit find it self and dose not treat folk as sex toys that is true swinger |
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You mention a ratio of 100 guys to 1 female so YOU make the rules, erm naw, you only have an equal share in decision making. You fell into the Fab trap of thinking because there are more guys than women , messages equal I'm so hot and can do what I want, erm naw again , your still just you.
Our experience is women find it just as hard to meet a guy, the amount of genuine guys is very low, sure you can grab some horny loser and have a fuck (if they turn up) , enjoy , but the good ones have very high standards.At last some one has got what im saying this isnt a free for all"
Oh, so you aren't after different peoples versions of the truth, just for us to acknowledge it's not a free for all and you can actually choose who you want to have sex with.
You are correct. It isn't a free for all.
However, there are occasions when I've been to clubs and been touched by guys who seem to forget this.
So in theory, you are correct, but people joining the scene would do well to be prepared for awkward situations where they come into contact with people that fail to understand it's not a free for all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Your posts are always so educational op and I thank you for that, me not being a swinger and all that
I thought you was queen of the swingers!!?? I have hight standrads"
Me too. I only like men over 6ft. Hard to find though. Especially as I don’t like beards either. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"What's a real swinger?
I'm glad you asked.... I'm intrigued myself, it would seem they are rather special and that you must do certain things to be called a real swinger. And if you don't do them, it appears most irritating to real swingers.
Someone who dose not assume and let sit find it self and dose not treat folk as sex toys that is true swinger"
That may be your definition but does not necessarily mean it is THE definition - ultimately we each have our own perceptions of what swinging means to us and the key is finding those that match those perceptions.
It's also arguable whether this is *just* a swinging site any more - yes it's in the name, but it's evolved over time to be so much more than just about swinging - which further blurs the definition each of us holds for how we use the site.
Personally I couldn't care less what people outside the site think of what I do, I'm secure and confident enough in my own use of it, and experiences from it to not be concerned about what others may think of me.
Of course all the standards and values you suggest are important but how important may vary from user to user, and is not for others to define for them. |
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You've misled everyone with your thread title, OP. The real truth .
It should be called my definition of true swinging.
You come across as very opinionated on how other people think, most outsiders of swingers think this or that, most guys think this or that , most swingers are like this or that .
Instead of telling others what you think others are thinking just swing in your own way and allow others to do the same. You seem to be getting worked up over something that's not your issue or your burden to shoulder.
Enjoy swinging and Fabbing for what it is instead of over thinking the whole scene and I'm sure it will be a more pleasurable journey.
Even when others agreed with you on some points you jumped onto 1 post and said , "finally someone gets it", lol
I think you only listen to people that whole heartedly agree with you and the rest of us belong to that other group that just don't get it .lol
Anyway OP happy Fabbing and swinging however you choose to do it. |
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"You've misled everyone with your thread title, OP. The real truth .
It should be called my definition of true swinging.
You come across as very opinionated on how other people think, most outsiders of swingers think this or that, most guys think this or that , most swingers are like this or that .
Instead of telling others what you think others are thinking just swing in your own way and allow others to do the same. You seem to be getting worked up over something that's not your issue or your burden to shoulder.
Enjoy swinging and Fabbing for what it is instead of over thinking the whole scene and I'm sure it will be a more pleasurable journey.
Even when others agreed with you on some points you jumped onto 1 post and said , "finally someone gets it", lol
I think you only listen to people that whole heartedly agree with you and the rest of us belong to that other group that just don't get it .lol
Anyway OP happy Fabbing and swinging however you choose to do it. "
this isnt a bad statement for a guy who I blocked I wonder why |
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"You've misled everyone with your thread title, OP. The real truth .
It should be called my definition of true swinging.
You come across as very opinionated on how other people think, most outsiders of swingers think this or that, most guys think this or that , most swingers are like this or that .
Instead of telling others what you think others are thinking just swing in your own way and allow others to do the same. You seem to be getting worked up over something that's not your issue or your burden to shoulder.
Enjoy swinging and Fabbing for what it is instead of over thinking the whole scene and I'm sure it will be a more pleasurable journey.
Even when others agreed with you on some points you jumped onto 1 post and said , "finally someone gets it", lol
I think you only listen to people that whole heartedly agree with you and the rest of us belong to that other group that just don't get it .lol
Anyway OP happy Fabbing and swinging however you choose to do it. "
That's fab though, isn't it? Well it is from my experience - people generally only listen to what they want to hear. Other opinions are just a nuisance or obstacle......  |
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"You've misled everyone with your thread title, OP. The real truth .
It should be called my definition of true swinging.
You come across as very opinionated on how other people think, most outsiders of swingers think this or that, most guys think this or that , most swingers are like this or that .
Instead of telling others what you think others are thinking just swing in your own way and allow others to do the same. You seem to be getting worked up over something that's not your issue or your burden to shoulder.
Enjoy swinging and Fabbing for what it is instead of over thinking the whole scene and I'm sure it will be a more pleasurable journey.
Even when others agreed with you on some points you jumped onto 1 post and said , "finally someone gets it", lol
I think you only listen to people that whole heartedly agree with you and the rest of us belong to that other group that just don't get it .lol
Anyway OP happy Fabbing and swinging however you choose to do it. this isnt a bad statement for a guy who I blocked I wonder why"
Your proving my last point of only listening to those that agree with you. We have NEVER chatted or messaged through private messages which means you blocked me simply through my posts on the forums which is fine.
So now I wonder why you blocked me other than having the audacity to tell it like it is and upsetting your version of the eutopia that swinging should be.  |
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"You've misled everyone with your thread title, OP. The real truth .
It should be called my definition of true swinging.
You come across as very opinionated on how other people think, most outsiders of swingers think this or that, most guys think this or that , most swingers are like this or that .
Instead of telling others what you think others are thinking just swing in your own way and allow others to do the same. You seem to be getting worked up over something that's not your issue or your burden to shoulder.
Enjoy swinging and Fabbing for what it is instead of over thinking the whole scene and I'm sure it will be a more pleasurable journey.
Even when others agreed with you on some points you jumped onto 1 post and said , "finally someone gets it", lol
I think you only listen to people that whole heartedly agree with you and the rest of us belong to that other group that just don't get it .lol
Anyway OP happy Fabbing and swinging however you choose to do it. this isnt a bad statement for a guy who I blocked I wonder why
Your proving my last point of only listening to those that agree with you. We have NEVER chatted or messaged through private messages which means you blocked me simply through my posts on the forums which is fine.
So now I wonder why you blocked me other than having the audacity to tell it like it is and upsetting your version of the eutopia that swinging should be. "
I blocked you cos of your manrer |
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"You've misled everyone with your thread title, OP. The real truth .
It should be called my definition of true swinging.
You come across as very opinionated on how other people think, most outsiders of swingers think this or that, most guys think this or that , most swingers are like this or that .
Instead of telling others what you think others are thinking just swing in your own way and allow others to do the same. You seem to be getting worked up over something that's not your issue or your burden to shoulder.
Enjoy swinging and Fabbing for what it is instead of over thinking the whole scene and I'm sure it will be a more pleasurable journey.
Even when others agreed with you on some points you jumped onto 1 post and said , "finally someone gets it", lol
I think you only listen to people that whole heartedly agree with you and the rest of us belong to that other group that just don't get it .lol
Anyway OP happy Fabbing and swinging however you choose to do it. this isnt a bad statement for a guy who I blocked I wonder why
Your proving my last point of only listening to those that agree with you. We have NEVER chatted or messaged through private messages which means you blocked me simply through my posts on the forums which is fine.
So now I wonder why you blocked me other than having the audacity to tell it like it is and upsetting your version of the eutopia that swinging should be. I blocked you cos of your manrer"
TBF there has been nothing wrong with my manner other than disagreeing with you and explaining why I disagree.
I'm guessing the fact you brought into the discussion your blocking me was your way of trying to discredit my character or my opinion. Luckily for me it doesn't block my opinions on this thread.
Anyways, who you block is entirely your choice . I do wonder though, do you surround yourself with only people that agree with everything you say in the outside swinging world too ?. |
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"Sry to burst your bubble passion queen but swinging and Fab is whatever you want it to be.
Some might say as a singleton your not even a swinger as only couples can be swingers but that's another debate. Personally I don't mind.
Your post comes across exactly the same as your profile full of what you want and what you want out of it , swinging I'm afraid is simply about sharing , sharing your sex life , sharing your partner, sharing your urges etc.
You mention a ratio of 100 guys to 1 female so YOU make the rules, erm naw, you only have an equal share in decision making. You fell into the Fab trap of thinking because there are more guys than women , messages equal I'm so hot and can do what I want, erm naw again , your still just you. I suggest before you preach to others the rules of engagement where swinging is concerned you look at your own use of the word firstly.
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