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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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If a person needs organ transplantation because of an unhealthy lifestyle, is it ethical to provide them with such an operation?
Are you an organ donor?
Me and C signed up ages ago to be organ donors when we die, but in Scotland it’ll soon be an opt out service, instead of opt in. Is this the case elsewhere? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If I'm dead my organs will be of no use to me. If they can help someone else then they should.
I've no thoughts on how they came to be ill. Ultimately the transplant could stop someone losing wife, mother, son, father,grandparent, sibling , child etc. |
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"If a person needs organ transplantation because of an unhealthy lifestyle, is it ethical to provide them with such an operation?
Are you an organ donor?
Me and C signed up ages ago to be organ donors when we die, but in Scotland it’ll soon be an opt out service, instead of opt in. Is this the case elsewhere?"
If my corpse can save a life, then I want that to happen. It doesn't matter the reason why they have become unwell... and I'm unlikely to be asking as I'm dead.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’m not using them anymore so why not help another out. Further, people in glass houses should not through stones - which is everyone except for those that think they are going to live to 100 if they give up all drinking, sugar, fat etc |
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My body is available for medical science as a first choice if its suitable and then as an organ doner as a second.
Anything for me that could help another to live a normal life or better still, help hundreds or thousands get easier surgery, work out new ways of diagnosis or methods of fighting disease is brilliant in my eyes and im all for an opt out system only.
Plus sides too are possibly less space taken up by the deceased in burial grounds and less waste once you’re dead in general.
If you are on the fence about it, watch 7 pounds with Will Smith and see what you think after that.
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
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Errr, not sure swingers organs would be wanted. Even giving blood, talk to the nurse beforehand. Screening should stop these being used. Saying that, I used to always give blood and am happy to give a transplant. Probably best just for study tho  |
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"Errr, not sure swingers organs would be wanted. Even giving blood, talk to the nurse beforehand. Screening should stop these being used. Saying that, I used to always give blood and am happy to give a transplant. Probably best just for study tho "
If they are about to harvest organs I wouldn’t imagine you would be in much of a position to discuss you sexual lifestyle with them. |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
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"Errr, not sure swingers organs would be wanted. Even giving blood, talk to the nurse beforehand. Screening should stop these being used. Saying that, I used to always give blood and am happy to give a transplant. Probably best just for study tho
If they are about to harvest organs I wouldn’t imagine you would be in much of a position to discuss you sexual lifestyle with them. "
As more and more data is gathered on people, eg medical records, screening organs is more reliable. Unfortunately in the past, several cases of deadly deseases being passed to the end patient have happened. Body products should be as safe as possible. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Errr, not sure swingers organs would be wanted. Even giving blood, talk to the nurse beforehand. Screening should stop these being used. Saying that, I used to always give blood and am happy to give a transplant. Probably best just for study tho "
The fuck has my liver got to do with me having sex with two other men two years ago? |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
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"Errr, not sure swingers organs would be wanted. Even giving blood, talk to the nurse beforehand. Screening should stop these being used. Saying that, I used to always give blood and am happy to give a transplant. Probably best just for study tho
The fuck has my liver got to do with me having sex with two other men two years ago?"
Various sti's affect the liver. I'm sure yours is wonderfully healthy.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"My body is available for medical science as a first choice if its suitable and then as an organ doner as a second.
Anything for me that could help another to live a normal life or better still, help hundreds or thousands get easier surgery, work out new ways of diagnosis or methods of fighting disease is brilliant in my eyes and im all for an opt out system only.
Plus sides too are possibly less space taken up by the deceased in burial grounds and less waste once you’re dead in general.
If you are on the fence about it, watch 7 pounds with Will Smith and see what you think after that.
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I forgot about the film. Brilliant movie. |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
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"Errr, not sure swingers organs would be wanted. Even giving blood, talk to the nurse beforehand. Screening should stop these being used. Saying that, I used to always give blood and am happy to give a transplant. Probably best just for study tho
The fuck has my liver got to do with me having sex with two other men two years ago?
Various sti's affect the liver. I'm sure yours is wonderfully healthy.
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Can't believe I've just told a lady, she has a nice liver!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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But what do you consider as unhealthy?
Personally i hope they use as much of me as they can if i die suddenly and am healthy and that it goes to anyone in need, regardless of their path through life
Member of my family had a life saving organ transplant and will need another one shortly. I'll forever be grateful for that precious gift that extended their life |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's opt out in England now.
Happened just recently."
20 May 2020 it changed in England which I didn't realise.
If the NHS is there to treat everyone regardless of lifestyle then everyone should be eligiblr for an organ replacement. In a perfect world.
But if there is a shortage of an organ and, I think, there is a points system to see who is most eligible. In that case someone with an unhealthy lifestyle should be further down the list. |
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"As more and more data is gathered on people, eg medical records, screening organs is more reliable. Unfortunately in the past, several cases of deadly deseases being passed to the end patient have happened. Body products should be as safe as possible. "
This is the reason that they screen potential donors before they use any organs. Leading a non-monogamous lifestyle doesn’t mean that your organs are unusable.
Your medical records are only going to show if you have been responsible and have been getting tested for STI’s. Your medical records won’t show if you got a tattoo from a dingy backstreet tattooist in Phuket or that your mate pierced your ears with an unsterilised needle after too much white lightning.
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I’d be worried the organ donor would come back and haunt me like in the film heart condition where denzel Washington comes back to haunt Bob Hoskins on the subject of it yes definitely donate if it helps even if the patient has abused his body they are someone’s loved one and as someone has said it may be kick up the backside they need to live better  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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this is a difficult question to answer because people have loved ones who are addicted to alcohol and drugs.
most people when they think of transplants and those that abuse them will remember george best.
personally i wouldnt help someone who clearly had no intention of beating an addiction.
same way people always defend the likes of gazza and hold him up as some sort of hero when in fact he is a wife beater, supported killer raul moat and continues to get pissed up.
these people have had support from other celebs and people with money but they just piss it up the wall or inject into a vein.
anyone like this i wouldnt help, if they die they die.
someone else deserving may need a lung, liver, heart etc not likes of best or gazza. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's opt out in England now.
Happened just recently.
20 May 2020 it changed in England which I didn't realise.
If the NHS is there to treat everyone regardless of lifestyle then everyone should be eligiblr for an organ replacement. In a perfect world.
But if there is a shortage of an organ and, I think, there is a points system to see who is most eligible. In that case someone with an unhealthy lifestyle should be further down the list."
Who decides what is an 'unhealthy lifestyle'?
What if the organ failure has nothing to do with their lifestyle? What if a person has a genetic condition and an unhealthy lifestyle?
I do sports that carry a small but real risk of significant injury (as do many) and fully expect the NHS which I have paid into for 1/4 of a century to help out should I ever need them to. What is the difference for people who have made different choices?
In Wales it is opt out though I've been a registered donor as long as I can remember. I hope my organs go to whoever had the greatest medical need regardless of their choices. I make a conscious effort not to judge others in life, I'd be very pissed off to think others may pass judgement on who does or doesn't deserve my organs once I die.
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By (user no longer on site)
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After going out with someone who managed an ICU and hearing how they slowly kill ppl (keep them alive/allow them to die) and keep different bits working for the several operations needed to harvest the different parts it kinda put me off a bit. I think I'd like to donate my shit still, even if it just ends up with some first year med student giggling at how wobbly Nippy's Braun is in their desk, but I'm not registered, ppl who know me know my thoughts....  |
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By *ookie46Woman
over a year ago
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"Errr, not sure swingers organs would be wanted. Even giving blood, talk to the nurse beforehand. Screening should stop these being used. Saying that, I used to always give blood and am happy to give a transplant. Probably best just for study tho
If they are about to harvest organs I wouldn’t imagine you would be in much of a position to discuss you sexual lifestyle with them.
As more and more data is gathered on people, eg medical records, screening organs is more reliable. Unfortunately in the past, several cases of deadly deseases being passed to the end patient have happened. Body products should be as safe as possible. "
I donate blood and I’m a registered organ donor and recently donated convalescent plasma to Covid patients.
Before each procedure the you’re given questionnaires and there are sexual health questions on them plus samples of blood are sent off for testing before you’re donated blood is given for use
Just because I swing I don’t think my donations should be any less valuable or not considered |
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An old friend with 3 young kids is still waiting for a heart 4 years after an avoidable disaster.
If I no longer need my organs they’re available for anyone who needs them. Not for me to judge. I’ve gone anyway. |
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