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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs. "
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused |
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over a year ago
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused "
Where is this stat from? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?"
What did you research exactly...? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?
What did you research exactly...?"
The number of deaths per day and the harm it does and have on society
Just because the government say its ok doesn't make it right.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Makes you scared to cross the road....
Or have babies
Or meet flatmates
Or fuck mates "
it should be called "bad decision maker"
Most people would never make the stupid decisions that some make whilst pissed!
I'm sure most of us have been there |
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"Makes you scared to cross the road....
Or have babies
Or meet flatmates
Or fuck mates
it should be called "bad decision maker"
Most people would never make the stupid decisions that some make whilst pissed!
I'm sure most of us have been there "
Yep |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Makes you scared to cross the road....
Or have babies
Or meet flatmates
Or fuck mates
it should be called "bad decision maker"
Most people would never make the stupid decisions that some make whilst pissed!
I'm sure most of us have been there
Yep "
Come on tell - sharing is caring |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?
What did you research exactly...?
The number of deaths per day and the harm it does and have on society
Just because the government say its ok doesn't make it right.
"
Hmm the lastest official UK government stat from a 2018 publication said 7000 and something in a year. 3000 a day would be 1,056,000 a year which seems awfully high.
Absolutely everything can be 'bad' when abused and cause harm if people feel the need to harm themselves.
What did you want to gain in posting this thread OP? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Makes you scared to cross the road....
Or have babies
Or meet flatmates
Or fuck mates
it should be called "bad decision maker"
Most people would never make the stupid decisions that some make whilst pissed!
I'm sure most of us have been there
Yep
Come on tell - sharing is caring "
I want to hear this too |
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"Makes you scared to cross the road....
Or have babies
Or meet flatmates
Or fuck mates
it should be called "bad decision maker"
Most people would never make the stupid decisions that some make whilst pissed!
I'm sure most of us have been there
Yep
Come on tell - sharing is caring "
It seemed a great idea at the time whilst hammered to take the dare from my ex to run up our street starters at 1am . The neighbours were less impressed |
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"Makes you scared to cross the road....
Or have babies
Or meet flatmates
Or fuck mates
it should be called "bad decision maker"
Most people would never make the stupid decisions that some make whilst pissed!
I'm sure most of us have been there
Yep
Come on tell - sharing is caring
It seemed a great idea at the time whilst hammered to take the dare from my ex to run up our street starters at 1am . The neighbours were less impressed " * starkers ffs |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?
What did you research exactly...?
The number of deaths per day and the harm it does and have on society
Just because the government say its ok doesn't make it right.
"
Lots of people misuse it does affect lots of peoples lives.
Wouldn’t go as far as claiming that 300 kids are dying a day from alcohol poisoning |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Makes you scared to cross the road....
Or have babies
Or meet flatmates
Or fuck mates
it should be called "bad decision maker"
Most people would never make the stupid decisions that some make whilst pissed!
I'm sure most of us have been there
Yep
Come on tell - sharing is caring
It seemed a great idea at the time whilst hammered to take the dare from my ex to run up our street starters at 1am . The neighbours were less impressed "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Life is a risk. Better to never go out and not eat or drink anything either. Then you can dehydrate, starve and go mad with isolation. Either way you end up dead in the end. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?
What did you research exactly...?
The number of deaths per day and the harm it does and have on society
Just because the government say its ok doesn't make it right.
Hmm the lastest official UK government stat from a 2018 publication said 7000 and something in a year. 3000 a day would be 1,056,000 a year which seems awfully high.
Absolutely everything can be 'bad' when abused and cause harm if people feel the need to harm themselves.
What did you want to gain in posting this thread OP? "
Your research is wrong. May i suggest the government health organisation or type in youtube about this subject .
Alcohol kills more children than all drugs combined |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?
What did you research exactly...?
The number of deaths per day and the harm it does and have on society
Just because the government say its ok doesn't make it right.
Lots of people misuse it does affect lots of peoples lives.
Wouldn’t go as far as claiming that 300 kids are dying a day from alcohol poisoning "
Do your research
Alcohol is also the most aggressive drug |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?
What did you research exactly...?
The number of deaths per day and the harm it does and have on society
Just because the government say its ok doesn't make it right.
" exactly. Slavery was once legal |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Life is a risk. Better to never go out and not eat or drink anything either. Then you can dehydrate, starve and go mad with isolation. Either way you end up dead in the end."
Alcohol ! does more harm to the non user than user
Drink driving, violence, abuse and so on |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?
What did you research exactly...?
The number of deaths per day and the harm it does and have on society
Just because the government say its ok doesn't make it right.
Lots of people misuse it does affect lots of peoples lives.
Wouldn’t go as far as claiming that 300 kids are dying a day from alcohol poisoning " 300 sounds low to me especially worldwide |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Life is a risk. Better to never go out and not eat or drink anything either. Then you can dehydrate, starve and go mad with isolation. Either way you end up dead in the end.
Alcohol ! does more harm to the non user than user
Drink driving, violence, abuse and so on" mate people who drink on the regular dont want hear this stuff thats why they're trying to discredit you. Dont rise to it |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?
What did you research exactly...?
The number of deaths per day and the harm it does and have on society
Just because the government say its ok doesn't make it right.
exactly. Slavery was once legal"
According to the bible it's still ok to have a slave |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Life is a risk. Better to never go out and not eat or drink anything either. Then you can dehydrate, starve and go mad with isolation. Either way you end up dead in the end.
Alcohol ! does more harm to the non user than user
Drink driving, violence, abuse and so on mate people who drink on the regular dont want hear this stuff thats why they're trying to discredit you. Dont rise to it"
My friend i understand its the most aggressive drug in the world . Its called Patronising and ego's
Thanks for your support |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Makes you scared to cross the road....
Or have babies
Or meet flatmates
Or fuck mates
it should be called "bad decision maker"
Most people would never make the stupid decisions that some make whilst pissed!
I'm sure most of us have been there " |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"Officially the most aggressive dangerous drug on the Planet and more harmful to others than the user
Scary!"
By numbers of global users maybe , but all that means is it’s accessible and popular. It’s like saying breaking news - food can make you fat
I can tell you someone on crystal m*eth is much more likely to do harm to themselves and others than my gran after a couple of sherries |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Officially the most aggressive dangerous drug on the Planet and more harmful to others than the user
Scary!
By numbers of global users maybe , but all that means is it’s accessible and popular. It’s like saying breaking news - food can make you fat
I can tell you someone on crystal m*eth is much more likely to do harm to themselves and others than my gran after a couple of sherries "
Your in denial i expected a response like this |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Makes you scared to cross the road....
Or have babies
Or meet flatmates
Or fuck mates
it should be called "bad decision maker"
Most people would never make the stupid decisions that some make whilst pissed!
I'm sure most of us have been there
Yep
Come on tell - sharing is caring
It seemed a great idea at the time whilst hammered to take the dare from my ex to run up our street starters at 1am . The neighbours were less impressed "
Or drive a car home while intoxicated? |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"Officially the most aggressive dangerous drug on the Planet and more harmful to others than the user
Scary!
By numbers of global users maybe , but all that means is it’s accessible and popular. It’s like saying breaking news - food can make you fat
I can tell you someone on crystal m*eth is much more likely to do harm to themselves and others than my gran after a couple of sherries
Your in denial i expected a response like this "
Have you wrestled my gran ? Have you ever had to restrain someone on m*eth ? If you have you’d know I’m speaking the truth.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Officially the most aggressive dangerous drug on the Planet and more harmful to others than the user
Scary!
By numbers of global users maybe , but all that means is it’s accessible and popular. It’s like saying breaking news - food can make you fat
I can tell you someone on crystal m*eth is much more likely to do harm to themselves and others than my gran after a couple of sherries
Your in denial i expected a response like this
Have you wrestled my gran ? Have you ever had to restrain someone on m*eth ? If you have you’d know I’m speaking the truth...."
Your a fool stay away from me |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Just to throw the cat amongst teh pigeons
"Officially the most aggressive dangerous drug on the Planet and more harmful to others than the user"
What do you mean by aggressive, also what do you mean regarding dangerous"
Professor Nutt did a lot of research into this
You need clear definitions and state what you are measuring
For example the most dangerous drug if you was to use this term to the individual and dosing is Heroin. It is lethal with small incremental of the dose, it is cut with all sorts of nonsense and if the user does get it wrong one dose can kill him/her. The incidnce of this happening is high
See my example is quite specific
AT a cost level and societal level alcohol is deemed the most "Dangerous" or costly
Just some thoughts
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By (user no longer on site)
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https://alcoholchange.org.uk/alcohol-facts/fact-sheets/alcohol-statistics#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20in%202016,began%20in%202001%20%5B14%5D.
I think my research was correct actually. |
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?
What did you research exactly...?
The number of deaths per day and the harm it does and have on society
Just because the government say its ok doesn't make it right.
Hmm the lastest official UK government stat from a 2018 publication said 7000 and something in a year. 3000 a day would be 1,056,000 a year which seems awfully high.
Absolutely everything can be 'bad' when abused and cause harm if people feel the need to harm themselves.
What did you want to gain in posting this thread OP? "
I'd be inclined not to listen to the government's stats, as at 17 I was doing a litre of vodka a day and having massive help issues due to my intake, my doctors and my social worker referred me to achool services to which the reply was "due to a lack of funding we cant offer support to anyone under the age of 18 maybe child services could help in this case"
In other words the government dont want to admit it has a drink problem in it's under 18s which believe me it really does
But the biggest harm to me was never my own drinking, it was the hand that told me they loved me, then them hands destroyed me me mentally and physically when he had a drink,to the point I ended up trapped and drinking to numb my pain, till I escaped and got sober, but the damage he did will be with me forever were the damage my drinking did has mostly all gone as my body was young and able to repair parts of its self |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I’m still not convinced by the OPs numbers and his inability to cite any sources make me think they may be a bit skewed.
Yes, lots of people misuse and yes more can be done, however, I don’t see how it’s helpful to throw around quite extreme statistics without any source or evidence to back it up. |
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"Officially the most aggressive dangerous drug on the Planet and more harmful to others than the user
Scary!"
Do not get it you calling for heroin to be legalised or alcohol put back into prohibition.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"https://alcoholchange.org.uk/alcohol-facts/fact-sheets/alcohol-statistics#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20in%202016,began%20in%202001%20%5B14%5D.
I think my research was correct actually."
Nope your wrong |
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"Officially the most aggressive dangerous drug on the Planet and more harmful to others than the user
Scary!
Do not get it you calling for heroin to be legalised or alcohol put back into prohibition.."
Pink gin tonic for me please |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?
What did you research exactly...?
The number of deaths per day and the harm it does and have on society
Just because the government say its ok doesn't make it right.
Lots of people misuse it does affect lots of peoples lives.
Wouldn’t go as far as claiming that 300 kids are dying a day from alcohol poisoning "
Before you comment please do your research |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?
What did you research exactly...?
The number of deaths per day and the harm it does and have on society
Just because the government say its ok doesn't make it right.
Hmm the lastest official UK government stat from a 2018 publication said 7000 and something in a year. 3000 a day would be 1,056,000 a year which seems awfully high.
Absolutely everything can be 'bad' when abused and cause harm if people feel the need to harm themselves.
What did you want to gain in posting this thread OP?
I'd be inclined not to listen to the government's stats, as at 17 I was doing a litre of vodka a day and having massive help issues due to my intake, my doctors and my social worker referred me to achool services to which the reply was "due to a lack of funding we cant offer support to anyone under the age of 18 maybe child services could help in this case"
In other words the government dont want to admit it has a drink problem in it's under 18s which believe me it really does
But the biggest harm to me was never my own drinking, it was the hand that told me they loved me, then them hands destroyed me me mentally and physically when he had a drink,to the point I ended up trapped and drinking to numb my pain, till I escaped and got sober, but the damage he did will be with me forever were the damage my drinking did has mostly all gone as my body was young and able to repair parts of its self"
Watch soft white underbelly on YouTube this might help you
Thankyou for your response and take care |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Officially the most aggressive dangerous drug on the Planet and more harmful to others than the user
Scary!
Do not get it you calling for heroin to be legalised or alcohol put back into prohibition.."
The numbers show in the hospital beds! That we are not being responsible |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"https://alcoholchange.org.uk/alcohol-facts/fact-sheets/alcohol-statistics#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20in%202016,began%20in%202001%20%5B14%5D.
I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong "
but it's printed there? |
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By *aver999Couple
over a year ago
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"https://alcoholchange.org.uk/alcohol-facts/fact-sheets/alcohol-statistics#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20in%202016,began%20in%202001%20%5B14%5D.
I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong "
Unless you backup the source of your research we have to assume it's from the Internet and not direct peer reviewed papers (although even some of them have been later proved unreliable). Anything on the Internet can rise to the top if enough people can be convinced it's true.
My quick "internet search" would suggest that a bigger cause of deaths is from nicotine in the developing countries: https://ash.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Tobacco-Developing-World.pdf
"Around 1.1 billion people aged 15 and over smoke, with 80% living in LMICs (low and middle income
countries).
• The health burden of smoking is disproportionately high in the developing world. By 2030, it is estimated
that tens of millions of people in the developing world would have died from tobacco consumption. The
majority of child deaths from second-hand smoke also occur in Africa and South-East Asian alone."
Different circumstances, economic, social, availability or otherwise will dictate what is most harmful for the location and of course the addictive nature of the person taking it! |
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10,000 people extra would die each day if they or their loved ones could no longer access alcohol to wind down their stress levels at the end of the day, probably. (Though I’m not one of those myself, some weeks I might have a couple of pints, plenty of weeks I don’t). |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"https://alcoholchange.org.uk/alcohol-facts/fact-sheets/alcohol-statistics#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20in%202016,began%20in%202001%20%5B14%5D.
I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
Unless you backup the source of your research we have to assume it's from the Internet and not direct peer reviewed papers (although even some of them have been later proved unreliable). Anything on the Internet can rise to the top if enough people can be convinced it's true.
My quick "internet search" would suggest that a bigger cause of deaths is from nicotine in the developing countries: https://ash.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Tobacco-Developing-World.pdf
"Around 1.1 billion people aged 15 and over smoke, with 80% living in LMICs (low and middle income
countries).
• The health burden of smoking is disproportionately high in the developing world. By 2030, it is estimated
that tens of millions of people in the developing world would have died from tobacco consumption. The
majority of child deaths from second-hand smoke also occur in Africa and South-East Asian alone."
Different circumstances, economic, social, availability or otherwise will dictate what is most harmful for the location and of course the addictive nature of the person taking it!"
The hospital beds taken up by related alcohol problems in this country, the USA and Russia wouldn't agree with you
Once you become an alcohol you can never recover
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"10,000 people extra would die each day if they or their loved ones could no longer access alcohol to wind down their stress levels at the end of the day, probably. (Though I’m not one of those myself, some weeks I might have a couple of pints, plenty of weeks I don’t). "
Your job is not an excuse to drink alcohol or bing drink |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"https://alcoholchange.org.uk/alcohol-facts/fact-sheets/alcohol-statistics#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20in%202016,began%20in%202001%20%5B14%5D.
I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there? "
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"https://alcoholchange.org.uk/alcohol-facts/fact-sheets/alcohol-statistics#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20in%202016,began%20in%202001%20%5B14%5D.
I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide "
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Just to throw the cat amongst teh pigeons
"Officially the most aggressive dangerous drug on the Planet and more harmful to others than the user"
What do you mean by aggressive, also what do you mean regarding dangerous"
Professor Nutt did a lot of research into this
You need clear definitions and state what you are measuring
For example the most dangerous drug if you was to use this term to the individual and dosing is Heroin. It is lethal with small incremental of the dose, it is cut with all sorts of nonsense and if the user does get it wrong one dose can kill him/her. The incidnce of this happening is high
See my example is quite specific
AT a cost level and societal level alcohol is deemed the most "Dangerous" or costly
Just some thoughts
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Im talking about overall stats..
It does more harm to the non user than user
Alcohol ranks 3rd in the world of drugs.
But beats all hands down creating harm to the non user
Coming out on top of the most dangerous drugs on the Planet list
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I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
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I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial |
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I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial "
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"https://alcoholchange.org.uk/alcohol-facts/fact-sheets/alcohol-statistics#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20in%202016,began%20in%202001%20%5B14%5D.
I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial
Send me the link to your fact the. Show me where it says 3000 people die per day. "
Youtube alcohol kills every 9.5 seconds 2016
It's probably around 9seconds now
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"https://alcoholchange.org.uk/alcohol-facts/fact-sheets/alcohol-statistics#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20in%202016,began%20in%202001%20%5B14%5D.
I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial
Send me the link to your fact the. Show me where it says 3000 people die per day.
Youtube alcohol kills every 9.5 seconds 2016
It's probably around 9seconds now
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And is that researched and referenced? Because I can put a video on YouTube saying anything |
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"https://alcoholchange.org.uk/alcohol-facts/fact-sheets/alcohol-statistics#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20in%202016,began%20in%202001%20%5B14%5D.
I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial
Send me the link to your fact the. Show me where it says 3000 people die per day.
Youtube alcohol kills every 9.5 seconds 2016
It's probably around 9seconds now
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Was that your 8 months of research? I don’t have 8 months to watch a video
I’m joking OP. But not everything on YouTube is correct |
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I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial
Send me the link to your fact the. Show me where it says 3000 people die per day.
Youtube alcohol kills every 9.5 seconds 2016
It's probably around 9seconds now
And is that researched and referenced? Because I can put a video on YouTube saying anything "
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"https://alcoholchange.org.uk/alcohol-facts/fact-sheets/alcohol-statistics#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20in%202016,began%20in%202001%20%5B14%5D.
I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial
Send me the link to your fact the. Show me where it says 3000 people die per day.
Youtube alcohol kills every 9.5 seconds 2016
It's probably around 9seconds now
And is that researched and referenced? Because I can put a video on YouTube saying anything
Like i said in denial. "
You said alcohol brings denial... Yet I'm sober. I've linked you to referenced research yet you argue I'm in denial, can't provide a link to support your stats.
I'm not saying alcohol isn't dangerous... But pretty sure cotton wool is dangerous if I shoved it down my throat and up my nose. Everything can be misused, doesn't mean it shouldn't be available. |
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I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial
Send me the link to your fact the. Show me where it says 3000 people die per day.
Youtube alcohol kills every 9.5 seconds 2016
It's probably around 9seconds now
Was that your 8 months of research? I don’t have 8 months to watch a video
I’m joking OP. But not everything on YouTube is correct "
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I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial
Send me the link to your fact the. Show me where it says 3000 people die per day.
Youtube alcohol kills every 9.5 seconds 2016
It's probably around 9seconds now
And is that researched and referenced? Because I can put a video on YouTube saying anything
Like i said in denial.
You said alcohol brings denial... Yet I'm sober. I've linked you to referenced research yet you argue I'm in denial, can't provide a link to support your stats.
I'm not saying alcohol isn't dangerous... But pretty sure cotton wool is dangerous if I shoved it down my throat and up my nose. Everything can be misused, doesn't mean it shouldn't be available. "
How many cotton wool fights have you seen or cotton wool driving accidents
Your comparison with cotton wool is beyond a logical response from me
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"https://alcoholchange.org.uk/alcohol-facts/fact-sheets/alcohol-statistics#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20in%202016,began%20in%202001%20%5B14%5D.
I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial
Send me the link to your fact the. Show me where it says 3000 people die per day.
Youtube alcohol kills every 9.5 seconds 2016
It's probably around 9seconds now
And is that researched and referenced? Because I can put a video on YouTube saying anything
Like i said in denial.
You said alcohol brings denial... Yet I'm sober. I've linked you to referenced research yet you argue I'm in denial, can't provide a link to support your stats.
I'm not saying alcohol isn't dangerous... But pretty sure cotton wool is dangerous if I shoved it down my throat and up my nose. Everything can be misused, doesn't mean it shouldn't be available.
How many cotton wool fights have you seen or cotton wool driving accidents
Your comparison with cotton wool is beyond a logical response from me
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It was picking something which most would think isn't dangerous and highlighting it can be. Anything can be dangerous.
Also OP. Your profile states you're a social drinker... |
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I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial
Send me the link to your fact the. Show me where it says 3000 people die per day.
Youtube alcohol kills every 9.5 seconds 2016
It's probably around 9seconds now
And is that researched and referenced? Because I can put a video on YouTube saying anything
Like i said in denial.
You said alcohol brings denial... Yet I'm sober. I've linked you to referenced research yet you argue I'm in denial, can't provide a link to support your stats.
I'm not saying alcohol isn't dangerous... But pretty sure cotton wool is dangerous if I shoved it down my throat and up my nose. Everything can be misused, doesn't mean it shouldn't be available.
How many cotton wool fights have you seen or cotton wool driving accidents
Your comparison with cotton wool is beyond a logical response from me
It was picking something which most would think isn't dangerous and highlighting it can be. Anything can be dangerous.
Also OP. Your profile states you're a social drinker... "
And so what if it does say that on my file
Most people don't know just how dangerous this drug is. Because it's sprinkled with fairy dust! glamoroused! sponsored! |
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I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial
Send me the link to your fact the. Show me where it says 3000 people die per day.
Youtube alcohol kills every 9.5 seconds 2016
It's probably around 9seconds now
And is that researched and referenced? Because I can put a video on YouTube saying anything
Like i said in denial. "
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I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial
Send me the link to your fact the. Show me where it says 3000 people die per day.
Youtube alcohol kills every 9.5 seconds 2016
It's probably around 9seconds now
And is that researched and referenced? Because I can put a video on YouTube saying anything
Like i said in denial.
Isn’t that a big river in Egypt. "
Actually the Egyptians were one of the first to brew!,from bread and honey! Which made the inbreeders fat and lazy |
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I think my research was correct actually.
Nope your wrong
but it's printed there?
Ask how many people die in the world from alcohol on your phone simple worldwide
I did. Still didn't get anywhere close to your statistic.
I just looked it up again! It's definitely there. Alcohol also creates denial
Send me the link to your fact the. Show me where it says 3000 people die per day.
Youtube alcohol kills every 9.5 seconds 2016
It's probably around 9seconds now
And is that researched and referenced? Because I can put a video on YouTube saying anything
Like i said in denial.
You said alcohol brings denial... Yet I'm sober. I've linked you to referenced research yet you argue I'm in denial, can't provide a link to support your stats.
I'm not saying alcohol isn't dangerous... But pretty sure cotton wool is dangerous if I shoved it down my throat and up my nose. Everything can be misused, doesn't mean it shouldn't be available.
How many cotton wool fights have you seen or cotton wool driving accidents
Your comparison with cotton wool is beyond a logical response from me
It was picking something which most would think isn't dangerous and highlighting it can be. Anything can be dangerous.
Also OP. Your profile states you're a social drinker... "
The OP profile also smokes and that’s the next harmful after alcohol! I don’t disagree that alcohol is harmful but I think this whole thread is just a childish look at me plea for attention! |
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"Everything can be dangerous if used incorrectly though? Surely it's because it's one of the most easily obtained drugs.
Yep easy to get and addicted to
3,000 people die a day from alcohol poisoning 10% are children
It's totally abused
I've researched alcohol for the last 8months. You can as easily as i did as well and please prove me to be wrong
Where is this stat from?
What did you research exactly...?
The number of deaths per day and the harm it does and have on society
Just because the government say its ok doesn't make it right.
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