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By *rivextr OP Man
over a year ago
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Viewing porn obviously fuels and economy. A lot of it isn’t really voluntary and is based on some sort of exploitation.
So watching porn obviously makes money for the producers who might be abusing and exploiting vulnerable people.
Any thoughts?.....
Ps I am guilty, love indulging myself |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If I watch any its usually amateurs, and not studio-that-calls-itself-amateur but proper normal folk having proper fun.
Apart from the sometimes questionable consent thing studio porn just seems boring to me and (obviously) so heavily scripted. Even the titles (lesbian first timer discovers black cock 5 was a personal 'fave') turn me off. |
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I've met a few porn stars (some alternative models do porn too) and they seem very happy in their line of work. Obviously can't say the same for everyone involved as I don't know them.
Personally I tend to prefer amateur, user submitted content anyway as its less staged. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Some performs make six figure salary and retire before 30 having never to worry about money again.
I think it's what you make of it but yes there is a lot of exploitation for newcomers from what I heard. |
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I watch it when I use my wand - and it gets switched off as soon as I cum.
Yep - I do tend to watch more extreme stuff - stuff I’d never consider doing - so I guess I’m part of the problem - but in all honesty I stop thinking about it as soon as I’ve switched it off!! |
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"I watch it when I use my wand - and it gets switched off as soon as I cum.
Yep - I do tend to watch more extreme stuff - stuff I’d never consider doing - so I guess I’m part of the problem - but in all honesty I stop thinking about it as soon as I’ve switched it off!! "
Yep, this 
I wank to things I fantasise about but would never do in real life.
But kudos to the people that do it for real, though, as long as they're doing it for their own enjoyment |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Porn and lewd images have been around for a v long time and will continue to do so.
But I do find it laughable when people say it’s rubbish and damaging whilst being members of a swingers community.  |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
There is a dark side to porn , better to make and watch your own with fully consenting adults or find sites that understand and combat that, do truly ethical sites even exist ?
That aside , it’s really bad for young people, young girls feeling pressured by boys to have anal and beach there bum holes , all this crap comes from porn |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've met a few porn stars (some alternative models do porn too) and they seem very happy in their line of work. Obviously can't say the same for everyone involved as I don't know them.
Personally I tend to prefer amateur, user submitted content anyway as its less staged. "
Same, I'm not into the rough stuff I only ever seen to be able to get off when watching homemade solo vids |
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By *renzMan
over a year ago
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I think it fuels expectations in whatever genre you prefer to watch. Watched a few films in my late teens, but actually prefer my 'porn' to be in written form. I tend to think watching porn tends to be boring and rarely watch any unless it's a 10 minute clip of amateurs anything else is too contrived. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do worry about the effect porn has on younger people in terms of expectation, self image and confidence.
Personally i can watch take a quick thrill but start to look at other things like sets, outfits activity practicalities. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Some years ago, I was involved in the porn industry. I've seen it from both sides.
Like a lot of industries, there is exploitation of human capital. That's partially down to the capitalism relevant in society, and also down to vulnerabilities of people. All the actresses I worked with were very much dong it of their own free will, and were in no way trafficked (though in some of the darker, seedier areas I don't doubt it exists). Exploited? Not so much... they had something that the decided to monetise, and a lot did so successfully. But there are some shady characters involved, (and some decent ones) and while the talent may not be exploited, the production / craft side are equally if not more at risk. But everyone was there of their own free will and choice.
I wouldn't say all porn is dangerous. In recent years we've seen more extreme types of porn cross into mainstream. There is a lot more abusive sex shown, a lot more sex where one side is very much abused. That is having a very dark and negative effect on younger people, both male and female, and that is dangerous! Also, as people are becoming more condition to more extreme porn, they are requiring that to get hard. It's actually a big thing for counselling right now.
The biggest thing I learnt from porn was that I was less interested in watching and more interested in doing. |
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By *VineMan
over a year ago
The right place |
"Doctors are reporting increased ed in young men. They've watched so much porn that real life situations fail to stimulate them.
I don't know what the answer is"
Yes, the effect of supernormal stimulation is well documented. There are some fascinating articles on it ranging from effects in nature to humans. |
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"It depends who's watching it, for a mature and well adjusted adult porn can be titillating, informative or entertaining.
For a child or immature person it can be quite damaging "
I agree here. It's rarely been an issue having sex with grown up adults who have a reasonable amount of real life sexual experience but jesus in my younger days I met so many guys with weird ideas about sex or things they saw from porn they thought were ok or the norm in real life. Though there are still a few ideas that seem to carry through into adulthood like that you need a big dick to please a woman, that all women like being hammered hard and deep, that penetration is the focus of 99% of sex and that sex is mainly about mens pleasure. Women's is a bonus or for the man's ego. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its been around in various formats since the year dot, but I don't think its had such a profound impact on behaviour and expectations until the advent of the Internet.
Some of it is quite frankly degrading and worrying. And for those of you who disagree, maybe ask yourself if you had a daughter, would you be happy for others to treat her that way for the sake of money?
It seems to be getting progressively more extreme in order to satisfy needs.
The answer? I don't know. Maybe thinking beyond your next masturbation fix? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" Its been around in various formats since the year dot, but I don't think its had such a profound impact on behaviour and expectations until the advent of the Internet.
Some of it is quite frankly degrading and worrying. And for those of you who disagree, maybe ask yourself if you had a daughter, would you be happy for others to treat her that way for the sake of money?
It seems to be getting progressively more extreme in order to satisfy needs.
The answer? I don't know. Maybe thinking beyond your next masturbation fix?"
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"Some years ago, I was involved in the porn industry. I've seen it from both sides.
Like a lot of industries, there is exploitation of human capital. That's partially down to the capitalism relevant in society, and also down to vulnerabilities of people. All the actresses I worked with were very much dong it of their own free will, and were in no way trafficked (though in some of the darker, seedier areas I don't doubt it exists). Exploited? Not so much... they had something that the decided to monetise, and a lot did so successfully. But there are some shady characters involved, (and some decent ones) and while the talent may not be exploited, the production / craft side are equally if not more at risk. But everyone was there of their own free will and choice.
I wouldn't say all porn is dangerous. In recent years we've seen more extreme types of porn cross into mainstream. There is a lot more abusive sex shown, a lot more sex where one side is very much abused. That is having a very dark and negative effect on younger people, both male and female, and that is dangerous! Also, as people are becoming more condition to more extreme porn, they are requiring that to get hard. It's actually a big thing for counselling right now.
The biggest thing I learnt from porn was that I was less interested in watching and more interested in doing."
They often will say they are doing it if there own free will and even believe it. We worked on an anti/trafficking / rescue project in Roma villages in eastern Bulgaria and met young girls that are trafficked to Germany and also work in porn and local brothels the traffickers and pimps are often brothers, uncles, fathers so there’s a huge pressure to help out the family and not complain but when we got to mentor them they were quite sad and wanted to study instead |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We're all on fab, right....?"
Not for the sole purpose of getting a rusty trombone whilst spitting in someone's face as they nail my balls to the floor  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We're all on fab, right....?
Not for the sole purpose of getting a rusty trombone whilst spitting in someone's face as they nail my balls to the floor "
I'm not here to breed young girls but some are, doesn't make me responsible for them now does it.... |
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I only watch porn when I'm too horny on my own and need that extra stimulation. Love watching two hot sexy men playing, afew pegging videos and men doing amazing oral... so I think there's still definitely a market for it. It never go away |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We're all on fab, right....?
Not for the sole purpose of getting a rusty trombone whilst spitting in someone's face as they nail my balls to the floor
I'm not here to breed young girls but some are, doesn't make me responsible for them now does it...."
No true, but having a broad understanding of where we are is important.
Do some of the things I get turned on by make topics of conversation for everyday life? No.
I'm not really sure what my point is other than some porn is fine, other stuff isn't. Profound. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was having a chat with a good friend yesterday and they were having a friendly bitchy rant about fab folk who go on about having "classy pictures" and "leaving something to the imagination" etc. It's fab right, not Facelook, we're mostly all here secretly without face pics and our friends and family (and sometimes partners) don't know about it and many folk make an awful lot of nonsense up or pretend to be something they're not - how classy is that then....? 
Oh to be virtuous..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They often will say they are doing it if there own free will and even believe it."
In the case of the ladies I worked with, all were ABSOLUTELY doing it of their own free will. I do acknowledge the issues to which you refer though and of course its a concern.
But then there is the money trap issue. People enter the industry (and this equally maybe mores applies to sex workers also) because they need the money, and then can't leave... because they can't do without the money. At what point does free will become no other option?
Somebody asked if we'd be happy for our daughters to work in the industry? I wouldn't be happy for my son or daughter to work in the industry, at least not in front of the camera. It can be very damaging. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We're all on fab, right....?
Not for the sole purpose of getting a rusty trombone whilst spitting in someone's face as they nail my balls to the floor
I'm not here to breed young girls but some are, doesn't make me responsible for them now does it....
No true, but having a broad understanding of where we are is important.
Do some of the things I get turned on by make topics of conversation for everyday life? No.
I'm not really sure what my point is other than some porn is fine, other stuff isn't. Profound. "
I agree with your point!  . But that's just our opinions innit, amongst many more that differ..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We're all on fab, right....?
Not for the sole purpose of getting a rusty trombone whilst spitting in someone's face as they nail my balls to the floor
I'm not here to breed young girls but some are, doesn't make me responsible for them now does it....
No true, but having a broad understanding of where we are is important.
Do some of the things I get turned on by make topics of conversation for everyday life? No.
I'm not really sure what my point is other than some porn is fine, other stuff isn't. Profound.
I agree with your point! . But that's just our opinions innit, amongst many more that differ....."
True, but sometimes there's a point where even if someone's preference is different, someone needs to grow a pair and stand up to say " Excuse me pal, thats out of order". Subjective I know. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We're all on fab, right....?
Not for the sole purpose of getting a rusty trombone whilst spitting in someone's face as they nail my balls to the floor
I'm not here to breed young girls but some are, doesn't make me responsible for them now does it....
No true, but having a broad understanding of where we are is important.
Do some of the things I get turned on by make topics of conversation for everyday life? No.
I'm not really sure what my point is other than some porn is fine, other stuff isn't. Profound.
I agree with your point! . But that's just our opinions innit, amongst many more that differ.....
True, but sometimes there's a point where even if someone's preference is different, someone needs to grow a pair and stand up to say " Excuse me pal, thats out of order". Subjective I know."
Excuse me pal, at which point is this? 
I reckon we'd all so much better focusing on ourselves than on others. By focusing on others we usually dilute the message and lower the bar. "If it's ok for them to do" etc.... |
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I find true amateur porn where all parties appear to be enjoying it a real then on but even in these cases there is always the worry that one party hasn't consented to it's publication. Certainly don't get into American porn with its pumped up bodies, not realistic at all. Are there any genuine amateurs sites? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We're all on fab, right....?
Not for the sole purpose of getting a rusty trombone whilst spitting in someone's face as they nail my balls to the floor
I'm not here to breed young girls but some are, doesn't make me responsible for them now does it....
No true, but having a broad understanding of where we are is important.
Do some of the things I get turned on by make topics of conversation for everyday life? No.
I'm not really sure what my point is other than some porn is fine, other stuff isn't. Profound.
I agree with your point! . But that's just our opinions innit, amongst many more that differ.....
True, but sometimes there's a point where even if someone's preference is different, someone needs to grow a pair and stand up to say " Excuse me pal, thats out of order". Subjective I know.
Excuse me pal, at which point is this?
I reckon we'd all so much better focusing on ourselves than on others. By focusing on others we usually dilute the message and lower the bar. "If it's ok for them to do" etc...."
Plus we have laws to define acceptability, and we could lobby to change those if we're not happy. It helps to avoid judgement based in specific tastes. For example, I don't want to see a woman eat an omelette made from the cum of ten men who've just jizzed in a funnel over a frying pan, but if someone else likes it and nobody got food poisoning making it, then it's not my business really.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I enjoy watching porn. One of my favourite pastimes to be honest! Although it can get a bit awkward when I’m on the bus. I like many categories, but have found watching fabbers videos to be the most exciting.
I suppose I do have double standards, as I’d not be happy if my daughter chose to be a porn performer.
Are porn performers exploited more than other workers? I get shafted at work most days lol. No one is forced to do it. |
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It's like most things in life, everyone sees it differently. Personally I have no problem with it and enjoy a bit of Internet filth. As for the exploitation I guess that happens in most industries to some degree just seems more of a belief that all pornstar are forced into it.
I do worry about the shear amount of it readily available to people grwoning up with it and how it would impact their sexual moral compass.
There are far worse things going on in the world to worry about.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doctors are reporting increased ed in young men. They've watched so much porn that real life situations fail to stimulate them.
I don't know what the answer is"
I wonder if the same can be said for Fab/swinging? Do you think it pushes us too far so that 'normal' (don't ask me to define this!) sexual relationships seem uninteresting? |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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One of my favourite porn stars also does escorting. She is now in her early 60`s and still active. Having said that, I don`t like all of her work and I suppose there is a limit to what they can do before it gets repetitive! |
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By *ocothumpaMan
over a year ago
quite close to you |
I go through phases where I cannot get enough; and boredom. Weirdly though I HATE sex scenes in films as I don’t see the point in them, totally useless to the story.
There is a massive problem with porn though and porn is not to blame |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was having a chat with a good friend yesterday and they were having a friendly bitchy rant about fab folk who go on about having "classy pictures" and "leaving something to the imagination" etc. It's fab right, not Facelook, we're mostly all here secretly without face pics and our friends and family (and sometimes partners) don't know about it and many folk make an awful lot of nonsense up or pretend to be something they're not - how classy is that then....?
Oh to be virtuous....."
A preference for classy-looking photos is just that, a preference. Why conflate that with being virtuous? Not the same thing, surely. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I can imagine that a few people on here, haven't had any sex during March, especially the singletons.
Porn can help to fill the gap during these dry periods.
Also, I have fucked a pornstar. Her name is Kerry Matthews and I went to her house in Ashford back in the late 90's and fucked her while her husband watched and took photos...good times! |
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By *rivextr OP Man
over a year ago
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" Its been around in various formats since the year dot, but I don't think its had such a profound impact on behaviour and expectations until the advent of the Internet.
Some of it is quite frankly degrading and worrying. And for those of you who disagree, maybe ask yourself if you had a daughter, would you be happy for others to treat her that way for the sake of money?
It seems to be getting progressively more extreme in order to satisfy needs.
The answer? I don't know. Maybe thinking beyond your next masturbation fix?"
That’s it, if you really think about it, put it into context. I think no one would approve of porn. But the my is thinking beyond the next jerking off.
It’s true I am, guilty of indulging in it but with time I prefer amateur homemade stuff. But again one can never really be sure of every participants actual consent.
Often relationships are sinister and toxic, mostly women fall victims but on occasion it can be men too. They would do anything “happily” to keep the partner happy. Wouldn’t that be exploitation too? |
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By *rivextr OP Man
over a year ago
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"I go through phases where I cannot get enough; and boredom. Weirdly though I HATE sex scenes in films as I don’t see the point in them, totally useless to the story.
There is a massive problem with porn though and porn is not to blame"
Fully agree on this one... unless it’s a bloody porn, what’s the point of a sex scene In a movie? Same goes with these super gory details of torture, violence!! |
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By *rivextr OP Man
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Doctors are reporting increased ed in young men. They've watched so much porn that real life situations fail to stimulate them.
I don't know what the answer is
I wonder if the same can be said for Fab/swinging? Do you think it pushes us too far so that 'normal' (don't ask me to define this!) sexual relationships seem uninteresting? "
Interesting perspective... I guess it all depends what one sees as normal. But likewise, depending on what we define as normal anything might be okay!
Values change as time goes on I guess |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Doctors are reporting increased ed in young men. They've watched so much porn that real life situations fail to stimulate them.
I don't know what the answer is
I wonder if the same can be said for Fab/swinging? Do you think it pushes us too far so that 'normal' (don't ask me to define this!) sexual relationships seem uninteresting? "
Yes. |
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