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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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Lots of rubbish on forums, they are becoming a little predictable.
So here you go, something to get your teeth into.
Colonising Mars is not that much of a pipe dream, believe it or not creating more greenhouse gasses in the mars atmosphere will warm it enough sufficiently to be able to grow vegetarian and thaw the ice.
Thus making mars habitable again. ( it was once like earth )
So would you relocate to a Mars, create your own colony?
If so tell us what you’d call it and what the rules for anyone staying would be?
Let’s get creative |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am so excited about it happening yet at the same time I wonder if it will be possible in the long term.
Why not the technology exists"
Well in theory it exists. But they haven't seen it working in practice yet |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am so excited about it happening yet at the same time I wonder if it will be possible in the long term.
Why not the technology exists"
If we don't change our ways pretty rapidly, humans won't survive long enough to colonize Mars. |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"I am so excited about it happening yet at the same time I wonder if it will be possible in the long term.
Why not the technology exists
If we don't change our ways pretty rapidly, humans won't survive long enough to colonize Mars. "
Too true..
Not sure human kind can change though |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Lots of rubbish on forums, they are becoming a little predictable.
So here you go, something to get your teeth into.
Colonising Mars is not that much of a pipe dream, believe it or not creating more greenhouse gasses in the mars atmosphere will warm it enough sufficiently to be able to grow vegetarian and thaw the ice.
Thus making mars habitable again. ( it was once like earth )
So would you relocate to a Mars, create your own colony?
If so tell us what you’d call it and what the rules for anyone staying would be?
Let’s get creative "
I'm not sure it's that simple. But if you had a reliable (and I mean RELIABLE) power source I guess you could do it. Lot of radiation pelting down on that surface though. I don't think Mars had a protective magnetic shield like Earth.
However Musk has already quickly done things I would have thought were very unlikely 10 years ago. Those Falcon heavies landing are a beautiful sight. And I think he right, long term. We should become a spacefaring species if we want to survive long term.
I think we should go for it. |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
west here ford shire |
"Lots of rubbish on forums, they are becoming a little predictable.
So here you go, something to get your teeth into.
Colonising Mars is not that much of a pipe dream, believe it or not creating more greenhouse gasses in the mars atmosphere will warm it enough sufficiently to be able to grow vegetarian and thaw the ice.
Thus making mars habitable again. ( it was once like earth )
So would you relocate to a Mars, create your own colony?
If so tell us what you’d call it and what the rules for anyone staying would be?
Let’s get creative
I'm not sure it's that simple. But if you had a reliable (and I mean RELIABLE) power source I guess you could do it. Lot of radiation pelting down on that surface though. I don't think Mars had a protective magnetic shield like Earth.
However Musk has already quickly done things I would have thought were very unlikely 10 years ago. Those Falcon heavies landing are a beautiful sight. And I think he right, long term. We should become a spacefaring species if we want to survive long term.
I think we should go for it."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why go to recreate? Why not innovate.
Despite the negative we've ruined everything comments, there's a lot of positive aspects to life, but up there,is a chance to experiment and forget about money orientated ideas. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Musk has been at the forfront of alot of inovations, while making billions lets not forget, however back to the op question, yes if we can do it why shouldnt we, we have out grown this planet, and unless we sort out population control it will end in tears, especialy in the 3rd world, i would be up to going to mars, but my worry is that we would just take our problems with us |
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Wouldn't it be more sensible & cheaper to come up with a plan to reverse the damage humanity has done to this planet?
Colonising Mars is impractical considering what would have to be done to make it habitable, and then the cost of taking people on the 6-8 month journey to get to Mars, considering the current cost per person just to get into outer space by virgin Galactic is $250,000 and that's only about 100km and mars is about 75,550,000km |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wouldn't it be more sensible & cheaper to come up with a plan to reverse the damage humanity has done to this planet?
Colonising Mars is impractical considering what would have to be done to make it habitable, and then the cost of taking people on the 6-8 month journey to get to Mars, considering the current cost per person just to get into outer space by virgin Galactic is $250,000 and that's only about 100km and mars is about 75,550,000km"
agreed, but people are selfish and stupid, thats not going to change anytime soon |
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"Wouldn't it be more sensible & cheaper to come up with a plan to reverse the damage humanity has done to this planet?
Colonising Mars is impractical considering what would have to be done to make it habitable, and then the cost of taking people on the 6-8 month journey to get to Mars, considering the current cost per person just to get into outer space by virgin Galactic is $250,000 and that's only about 100km and mars is about 75,550,000km
agreed, but people are selfish and stupid, thats not going to change anytime soon"
sad but true |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think we will colonise mars eventually because we will have to
And I also think we will eventually colonise all over the galaxy and therefore create sub species of ourselves thus creating the aliens we all think are out there my opinion is that we are the beginning of life in the galaxy |
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At some point the sun will have burnt off most of its hydrogen and will start burning the heavier elements and get hotter and bigger, at this point the earth will be to hot to live on and Mars will return to the goldilocks zone when this happens if the human race is still here a move will be our only choice. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At some point the sun will have burnt off most of its hydrogen and will start burning the heavier elements and get hotter and bigger, at this point the earth will be to hot to live on and Mars will return to the goldilocks zone when this happens if the human race is still here a move will be our only choice. "
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"At some point the sun will have burnt off most of its hydrogen and will start burning the heavier elements and get hotter and bigger, at this point the earth will be to hot to live on and Mars will return to the goldilocks zone when this happens if the human race is still here a move will be our only choice. "
That’s about 5 billion years from now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At some point the sun will have burnt off most of its hydrogen and will start burning the heavier elements and get hotter and bigger, at this point the earth will be to hot to live on and Mars will return to the goldilocks zone when this happens if the human race is still here a move will be our only choice.
That’s about 5 billion years from now. "
And? |
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I would call it something like New Eden.
It sounds friendly, inviting, safe but in reality it would be a slave planet ruled by a despot, once you arrive there's no way back.
I've got to get my seed money back somehow and teraforming planets isn't cheap you know...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Do you remember the time I knew a girl from Mars?
I don't know if you knew that
Oh, we'd stay up late playing cards
Henri Winterman cigars
And she never told me her name
I still love you, the girl from Mars.
Just saying |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I hope it will happen but I have no doubts that governments and bureaucracy will fuck it up and we'll die on this planet long before any colonies get going. Not to mention the time and resources it would take to terraform an entire planet. |
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"I think it really has to happen, humans are overpopulating the planet, if we don’t stretch and extend into space, we will simply exhaust Mother Earth and destroy life here"
Or a pandemic will come along to redress the balance. |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"I think it really has to happen, humans are overpopulating the planet, if we don’t stretch and extend into space, we will simply exhaust Mother Earth and destroy life here
Or a pandemic will come along to redress the balance. "
Lol true |
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By *ait88Man
over a year ago
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Better bets would be large satellites or hollowed-out asteroids in the Lagrange regions. They will be much closer, and spun to produce centrifugal forces on their living surfaces that will have the same effects on our bodies as gravity. And climate control, off course. Mars will be for short-stay visits only. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes I think that o'neill cylinders will be where people will live when we reach for the stars. 1G gravity, radiation shielding and access to all the solar energy that you will ever need. |
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By *ait88Man
over a year ago
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No Earth government will ever be able to finance off-Earth colonization. That will be done by the super-rich like Musk. They will be colonial kings, and the colonists will be their subjects.
For a while.
Revolutions happen!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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problem with man is....
they will fight over it and ultimately break out into war over some fine mineral that can be mined on a planet.
someone will always want a piece of another mans action.
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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago
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To even get to Mars, stay there with enough resources to get you through the first few (Earth) years while you build up the infrastructure to become sufficiently self reliant (in good growth, power generation, accommodation underground to avoid solar radiation damage, melting the permafrost layer to get enough drinking water and oxygen) would take TRILLIONS.
Until a cheap, reliable, reusable bulk mode of transportation can be made, its all going to be a pipe dream.
Sad really, as for most of us science fiction nerds colonizing Mars is the storyline we tend to gravitate towards. |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"To even get to Mars, stay there with enough resources to get you through the first few (Earth) years while you build up the infrastructure to become sufficiently self reliant (in good growth, power generation, accommodation underground to avoid solar radiation damage, melting the permafrost layer to get enough drinking water and oxygen) would take TRILLIONS.
Until a cheap, reliable, reusable bulk mode of transportation can be made, its all going to be a pipe dream.
Sad really, as for most of us science fiction nerds colonizing Mars is the storyline we tend to gravitate towards. "
All true, but if we don’t dream, we don’t push our boundaries.
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"No Earth government will ever be able to finance off-Earth colonization. That will be done by the super-rich like Musk. They will be colonial kings, and the colonists will be their subjects.
For a while.
Revolutions happen!
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I watched a documentary a little while ago that suggested that a colony on the moon would be about $40 billion and that who ever started it be it country or company the profits would be immense. |
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By *ait88Man
over a year ago
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The moon was made from materials blasted from Earth. It has no natural resources that Earth doesn’t have. And they would be far more expensive to extract and ship home. The lack of gravity would preclude colonisation by permanent residents.
And would the tax-payers foot the bill?
Certainly, the Americans wouldn’t – they killed the space shuttle program.
No Europeans would, because the money would be better spent on Earth.
The first component of the International Space Station was launched 22 years ago, but nothing has been done to expand it to provide a launch facility / staging post for interplanetary travel. It doesn’t even have centrifugal gravity – visitors still have to endure weightlessness.
Maybe the Chinese would be the best bet, but they still have a long way to go in their quest for a reasonable standard of living for everyone. And they are much more interested in becoming the leading country on Earth – by fair means and foul.
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By *ait88Man
over a year ago
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The moon was made from materials blasted from Earth. It has no natural resources that Earth doesn’t have. And they would be far more expensive to extract and ship home. The lack of gravity would preclude colonisation by permanent residents.
And would the tax-payers foot the bill?
Certainly, the Americans wouldn’t – they killed the space shuttle program.
No Europeans would, because the money would be better spent on Earth.
The first component of the International Space Station was launched 22 years ago, but nothing has been done to expand it to provide a launch facility / staging post for interplanetary travel. It doesn’t even have centrifugal gravity – visitors still have to endure weightlessness.
Maybe the Chinese would be the best bet, but they still have a long way to go in their quest for a reasonable standard of living for everyone. And they are much more interested in becoming the leading country on Earth – by fair means and foul.
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The documentary said mining on the moon would be very profitable due to the quantities of certain rocks/minerals and the ease of mining, it went on to say that delivery to earth wasn't that big of a problem and once actual manufacturing had started, bigger better space stations and ship could be built for a lot less.
Obviously not my specialist field, just found it an interesting program. |
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