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By *anty Two OP Couple
over a year ago
Near Ash Surrey & South Essex |
We still love our punk
Been to Rebellion. The Aternative Weekends at Butlins, MOrecambe, Undercover all them events and loads of other gigs.
The covid malarkey has put a right spanner with playing but music keeps us going.
We are still looking to arrange a punk / alt players party either at someones house or a meet up at a club (prob Ab Fabs) for people from in Surrey / Berks / South London / anywhere when this is over
Anyone up for this? |
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"We still love our punk
Been to Rebellion. The Aternative Weekends at Butlins, MOrecambe, Undercover all them events and loads of other gigs.
The covid malarkey has put a right spanner with playing but music keeps us going.
We are still looking to arrange a punk / alt players party either at someones house or a meet up at a club (prob Ab Fabs) for people from in Surrey / Berks / South London / anywhere when this is over
Anyone up for this?"
Oh yes and yes... Love live music... Some punk is so refreshing compared with so much heavily produced music... Still love to whack on "never mind the bollocks" and throw the windows open.
But... There's also a lot of really crap punk. |
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"Still listen to mainstream punk stuff (Pistols, Clash, Damned, Undertones, Banshees, Str**glers and more) and always will, it's part of my musical heritage"
Likewise... Music can have that effect on you...add stiff little fingers to your list... Xtc.. Also into the mod revival (the first one) bands, the chords, the new hearts, the purples hearts, long gall shorty et al... Who are still playing... (well they were till lock down) |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"Still listen to mainstream punk stuff (Pistols, Clash, Damned, Undertones, Banshees, Str**glers and more) and always will, it's part of my musical heritage
Likewise... Music can have that effect on you...add stiff little fingers to your list... Xtc.. Also into the mod revival (the first one) bands, the chords, the new hearts, the purples hearts, long gall shorty et al... Who are still playing... (well they were till lock down) "
The late 70s/early 80s is where my musical tastes were forged and cemented in stone, so punk, new wave, Two Tone, the mod revival all feature large in my musical collection |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"Ok I’ll say it
Sex Pistols are shite and overrated
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Whilst I'd agree that the Pistols are afforded more credit than they are probably due and that some of the bands you listed (particularly The Clash, The Ruts and The Buzzcocks) were better, I'd disagree that they are either shite or over rated - Pretty Vacant, Anarchy In The UK and God Save The Queen alone are testament to that - thing is The Pistols were the controversial figureheads at the time who made the headlines and in a way paved the way for the others who just got on with it and developed their talents while the Pistols carried on their pantomime - there's no doubting the talent of Mr Lydon though and some of the stuff he did with PiL was when you truly saw that talent. |
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"Ok I’ll say it
Sex Pistols are shite and overrated
Whilst I'd agree that the Pistols are afforded more credit than they are probably due and that some of the bands you listed (particularly The Clash, The Ruts and The Buzzcocks) were better, I'd disagree that they are either shite or over rated - Pretty Vacant, Anarchy In The UK and God Save The Queen alone are testament to that - thing is The Pistols were the controversial figureheads at the time who made the headlines and in a way paved the way for the others who just got on with it and developed their talents while the Pistols carried on their pantomime - there's no doubting the talent of Mr Lydon though and some of the stuff he did with PiL was when you truly saw that talent."
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"Still listen to mainstream punk stuff (Pistols, Clash, Damned, Undertones, Banshees, Str**glers and more) and always will, it's part of my musical heritage
Likewise... Music can have that effect on you...add stiff little fingers to your list... Xtc.. Also into the mod revival (the first one) bands, the chords, the new hearts, the purples hearts, long gall shorty et al... Who are still playing... (well they were till lock down)
The late 70s/early 80s is where my musical tastes were forged and cemented in stone, so punk, new wave, Two Tone, the mod revival all feature large in my musical collection "
I had a give 'em enough rope, love bites and inflammable material day yesterday... |
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"Ok I’ll say it
Sex Pistols are shite and overrated
Whilst I'd agree that the Pistols are afforded more credit than they are probably due and that some of the bands you listed (particularly The Clash, The Ruts and The Buzzcocks) were better, I'd disagree that they are either shite or over rated - Pretty Vacant, Anarchy In The UK and God Save The Queen alone are testament to that - thing is The Pistols were the controversial figureheads at the time who made the headlines and in a way paved the way for the others who just got on with it and developed their talents while the Pistols carried on their pantomime - there's no doubting the talent of Mr Lydon though and some of the stuff he did with PiL was when you truly saw that talent."
Unfortunately you say punk to the average person on the street, or someone who knows nothing about the scene but think they do, will claim The Sex Pistols were the best band. They’re ignorant to the truly great bands that were around and making great music and not just generating news articles and rude lyrics.
However I don’t hate the Pistols and think their music certainly added to the movement, but it annoys me the great punk bands are not remembered better, due to the Pistols notoriety.
Agree with Lydon and PIL though
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"Ok I’ll say it
Sex Pistols are shite and overrated
Whilst I'd agree that the Pistols are afforded more credit than they are probably due and that some of the bands you listed (particularly The Clash, The Ruts and The Buzzcocks) were better, I'd disagree that they are either shite or over rated - Pretty Vacant, Anarchy In The UK and God Save The Queen alone are testament to that - thing is The Pistols were the controversial figureheads at the time who made the headlines and in a way paved the way for the others who just got on with it and developed their talents while the Pistols carried on their pantomime - there's no doubting the talent of Mr Lydon though and some of the stuff he did with PiL was when you truly saw that talent.
Unfortunately you say punk to the average person on the street, or someone who knows nothing about the scene but think they do, will claim The Sex Pistols were the best band. They’re ignorant to the truly great bands that were around and making great music and not just generating news articles and rude lyrics.
However I don’t hate the Pistols and think their music certainly added to the movement, but it annoys me the great punk bands are not remembered better, due to the Pistols notoriety.
Agree with Lydon and PIL though
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Oh agree absolutely - to the uninitiated punk was The Pistols and The Pistols were punk, which is a massive disservice to some of the bands you've named and many you've not.
The Pistols always were a pantomime and Lydon the perfect panto villain against McClaren's Dame..and they played their part to the hilt.
The Clash on their own were ten times what The Pistols were |
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In the 70s I saw the clash, SLF, the ruts, the str@nglers,adam and the ants, since then the damned a few years ago, sex pistols about 10 years ago,I do want to see uk subs before Charlie Harper reaches 100 year old |
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Standing in the shadows,
Where the in-crowd meet
We're all dressed up for the evening
We hate the punk elite
So take me to your leader
If you know, you know  |
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"Ok I’ll say it
Sex Pistols are shite and overrated
The Clash
Stranglers
The Damned
SLF
Buzzcocks
Dead Kennedy’s
Sham 69
The Ruts
All better in my opinion
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But without them very few if any of those bands would have got going..Joe strummer would have still been playing pub rock..and also it wouldn't have had the same impact..I mean as an 11 year old the only reason I got interested was because I'd seen stuff in the news of the world about the sex pistols..no doubt not long after the bill Grundy thing.. without the pistols I feel things would have been a lot different.. |
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"Ok I’ll say it
Sex Pistols are shite and overrated
The Clash
Stranglers
The Damned
SLF
Buzzcocks
Dead Kennedy’s
Sham 69
The Ruts
All better in my opinion
But without them very few if any of those bands would have got going..Joe strummer would have still been playing pub rock..and also it wouldn't have had the same impact..I mean as an 11 year old the only reason I got interested was because I'd seen stuff in the news of the world about the sex pistols..no doubt not long after the bill Grundy thing.. without the pistols I feel things would have been a lot different.."
The damned were out a good while before the pistols |
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"Ok I’ll say it
Sex Pistols are shite and overrated
The Clash
Stranglers
The Damned
SLF
Buzzcocks
Dead Kennedy’s
Sham 69
The Ruts
All better in my opinion
But without them very few if any of those bands would have got going..Joe strummer would have still been playing pub rock..and also it wouldn't have had the same impact..I mean as an 11 year old the only reason I got interested was because I'd seen stuff in the news of the world about the sex pistols..no doubt not long after the bill Grundy thing.. without the pistols I feel things would have been a lot different..
The damned were out a good while before the pistols"
Yes I know. But without the pistols how much media interest would there have been..I doubt it would have had the same impact... despite new rose being far superior to anarchy in the UK..it would have passed without much notice.. being on a small independent rather than pistols on EMI.. |
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I love punk. As well as alt, goth, psychobilly...
Still very much involved in the punk, psychobilly and rockabilly scenes.
Was supposed to be at Rebellion, Pineda and Sjock festivals this year but stupid Covid put paid to that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ok I’ll say it
Sex Pistols are shite and overrated
The Clash
Stranglers
The Damned
SLF
Buzzcocks
Dead Kennedy’s
Sham 69
The Ruts
All better in my opinion
But without them very few if any of those bands would have got going..Joe strummer would have still been playing pub rock..and also it wouldn't have had the same impact..I mean as an 11 year old the only reason I got interested was because I'd seen stuff in the news of the world about the sex pistols..no doubt not long after the bill Grundy thing.. without the pistols I feel things would have been a lot different..
The damned were out a good while before the pistols
Yes I know. But without the pistols how much media interest would there have been..I doubt it would have had the same impact... despite new rose being far superior to anarchy in the UK..it would have passed without much notice.. being on a small independent rather than pistols on EMI.."
Fair point,and the damned were/are farrrrrr better than the pistols |
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"Ok I’ll say it
Sex Pistols are shite and overrated
The Clash
Stranglers
The Damned
SLF
Buzzcocks
Dead Kennedy’s
Sham 69
The Ruts
All better in my opinion
But without them very few if any of those bands would have got going..Joe strummer would have still been playing pub rock..and also it wouldn't have had the same impact..I mean as an 11 year old the only reason I got interested was because I'd seen stuff in the news of the world about the sex pistols..no doubt not long after the bill Grundy thing.. without the pistols I feel things would have been a lot different..
The damned were out a good while before the pistols
Yes I know. But without the pistols how much media interest would there have been..I doubt it would have had the same impact... despite new rose being far superior to anarchy in the UK..it would have passed without much notice.. being on a small independent rather than pistols on EMI.."
It’s difficult to imagine punk rock without the Pistols, free trade hall legendary gig, John Lydon or even the film the great rock n roll swindle and I’m not forgetting Bill Grundy either (I think siouxsie sioux was on that as well).
It’s the fact that you say Punk and the great unwashed saySex Pistols It was so much more than that for I think just two years before it died out.
However I commend this thread and everyone who commented, some great shout outs
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"I love punk. As well as alt, goth, psychobilly...
Still very much involved in the punk, psychobilly and rockabilly scenes.
Was supposed to be at Rebellion, Pineda and Sjock festivals this year but stupid Covid put paid to that."
Psychobilly! God... Forgotten that genre... |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
"Standing in the shadows,
Where the in-crowd meet
We're all dressed up for the evening
We hate the punk elite
So take me to your leader
If you know, you know "
Ah yeah...but...
The skins in the corner are staring at the bar
The rude boys are dancing to some heavy heavy ska
It's getting so hot people are dripping with sweat
The punks in the corner are speeding like a jet
RIP Malcolm taken too soon |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Standing in the shadows,
Where the in-crowd meet
We're all dressed up for the evening
We hate the punk elite
So take me to your leader
If you know, you know
Ah yeah...but...
The skins in the corner are staring at the bar
The rude boys are dancing to some heavy heavy ska
It's getting so hot people are dripping with sweat
The punks in the corner are speeding like a jet
RIP Malcolm taken too soon"
Saw them in 1979 at deeply Vale festival in Bury, epic |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
"Standing in the shadows,
Where the in-crowd meet
We're all dressed up for the evening
We hate the punk elite
So take me to your leader
If you know, you know
Ah yeah...but...
The skins in the corner are staring at the bar
The rude boys are dancing to some heavy heavy ska
It's getting so hot people are dripping with sweat
The punks in the corner are speeding like a jet
RIP Malcolm taken too soon
Saw them in 1979 at deeply Vale festival in Bury, epic"
They often get overlooked when it comes to punk bands but were on a par with The Clash for me - finely crafted lyrics and more than just punk thrash |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Standing in the shadows,
Where the in-crowd meet
We're all dressed up for the evening
We hate the punk elite
So take me to your leader
If you know, you know
Ah yeah...but...
The skins in the corner are staring at the bar
The rude boys are dancing to some heavy heavy ska
It's getting so hot people are dripping with sweat
The punks in the corner are speeding like a jet
RIP Malcolm taken too soon
Saw them in 1979 at deeply Vale festival in Bury, epic
They often get overlooked when it comes to punk bands but were on a par with The Clash for me - finely crafted lyrics and more than just punk thrash"
The crack is one of the best punk albums ever, also pure mania by the vibtrators |
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"Ok I’ll say it
Sex Pistols are shite and overrated
The Clash
Stranglers
The Damned
SLF
Buzzcocks
Dead Kennedy’s
Sham 69
The Ruts
All better in my opinion
But without them very few if any of those bands would have got going..Joe strummer would have still been playing pub rock..and also it wouldn't have had the same impact..I mean as an 11 year old the only reason I got interested was because I'd seen stuff in the news of the world about the sex pistols..no doubt not long after the bill Grundy thing.. without the pistols I feel things would have been a lot different..
The damned were out a good while before the pistols
Yes I know. But without the pistols how much media interest would there have been..I doubt it would have had the same impact... despite new rose being far superior to anarchy in the UK..it would have passed without much notice.. being on a small independent rather than pistols on EMI..
It’s difficult to imagine punk rock without the Pistols, free trade hall legendary gig, John Lydon or even the film the great rock n roll swindle and I’m not forgetting Bill Grundy either (I think siouxsie sioux was on that as well).
It’s the fact that you say Punk and the great unwashed saySex Pistols It was so much more than that for I think just two years before it died out.
However I commend this thread and everyone who commented, some great shout outs
"
...errr..but it didn't die out..it just went more underground....must say 78..79 things were a bit lean when the posers jumped on the next bandwagon..mod ..new romantics..etc.. but by 1980 things really started to kick off again...the great unsung hero of all this is Charlie Harper of the UK subs..kept going through thick and thin..and still at it.. |
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"Ok I’ll say it
Sex Pistols are shite and overrated
The Clash
Stranglers
The Damned
SLF
Buzzcocks
Dead Kennedy’s
Sham 69
The Ruts
All better in my opinion
But without them very few if any of those bands would have got going..Joe strummer would have still been playing pub rock..and also it wouldn't have had the same impact..I mean as an 11 year old the only reason I got interested was because I'd seen stuff in the news of the world about the sex pistols..no doubt not long after the bill Grundy thing.. without the pistols I feel things would have been a lot different..
The damned were out a good while before the pistols
Yes I know. But without the pistols how much media interest would there have been..I doubt it would have had the same impact... despite new rose being far superior to anarchy in the UK..it would have passed without much notice.. being on a small independent rather than pistols on EMI..
It’s difficult to imagine punk rock without the Pistols, free trade hall legendary gig, John Lydon or even the film the great rock n roll swindle and I’m not forgetting Bill Grundy either (I think siouxsie sioux was on that as well).
It’s the fact that you say Punk and the great unwashed saySex Pistols It was so much more than that for I think just two years before it died out.
However I commend this thread and everyone who commented, some great shout outs
...errr..but it didn't die out..it just went more underground....must say 78..79 things were a bit lean when the posers jumped on the next bandwagon..mod ..new romantics..etc.. but by 1980 things really started to kick off again...the great unsung hero of all this is Charlie Harper of the UK subs..kept going through thick and thin..and still at it.."
See a post of mine up there^^^^^^^ |
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"Ok I’ll say it
Sex Pistols are shite and overrated
The Clash
Stranglers
The Damned
SLF
Buzzcocks
Dead Kennedy’s
Sham 69
The Ruts
All better in my opinion
But without them very few if any of those bands would have got going..Joe strummer would have still been playing pub rock..and also it wouldn't have had the same impact..I mean as an 11 year old the only reason I got interested was because I'd seen stuff in the news of the world about the sex pistols..no doubt not long after the bill Grundy thing.. without the pistols I feel things would have been a lot different..
The damned were out a good while before the pistols
Yes I know. But without the pistols how much media interest would there have been..I doubt it would have had the same impact... despite new rose being far superior to anarchy in the UK..it would have passed without much notice.. being on a small independent rather than pistols on EMI..
It’s difficult to imagine punk rock without the Pistols, free trade hall legendary gig, John Lydon or even the film the great rock n roll swindle and I’m not forgetting Bill Grundy either (I think siouxsie sioux was on that as well).
It’s the fact that you say Punk and the great unwashed saySex Pistols It was so much more than that for I think just two years before it died out.
However I commend this thread and everyone who commented, some great shout outs
...errr..but it didn't die out..it just went more underground....must say 78..79 things were a bit lean when the posers jumped on the next bandwagon..mod ..new romantics..etc.. but by 1980 things really started to kick off again...the great unsung hero of all this is Charlie Harper of the UK subs..kept going through thick and thin..and still at it.."
The height of punk was late 77 to late 79 but like all movements they have high points and then as you say the ‘posers’ moved on. But the hardcore carried on and moved to Camden
I’ve seen the Stran*lers live a few times over the years (my own favourite) and know a few others that kept going.
For me Punk is something I can show my kids and say, your generation will never get that radical and cool looking |
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"Ok I’ll say it
Sex Pistols are shite and overrated
The Clash
Stranglers
The Damned
SLF
Buzzcocks
Dead Kennedy’s
Sham 69
The Ruts
All better in my opinion
But without them very few if any of those bands would have got going..Joe strummer would have still been playing pub rock..and also it wouldn't have had the same impact..I mean as an 11 year old the only reason I got interested was because I'd seen stuff in the news of the world about the sex pistols..no doubt not long after the bill Grundy thing.. without the pistols I feel things would have been a lot different..
The damned were out a good while before the pistols
Yes I know. But without the pistols how much media interest would there have been..I doubt it would have had the same impact... despite new rose being far superior to anarchy in the UK..it would have passed without much notice.. being on a small independent rather than pistols on EMI..
It’s difficult to imagine punk rock without the Pistols, free trade hall legendary gig, John Lydon or even the film the great rock n roll swindle and I’m not forgetting Bill Grundy either (I think siouxsie sioux was on that as well).
It’s the fact that you say Punk and the great unwashed saySex Pistols It was so much more than that for I think just two years before it died out.
However I commend this thread and everyone who commented, some great shout outs
...errr..but it didn't die out..it just went more underground....must say 78..79 things were a bit lean when the posers jumped on the next bandwagon..mod ..new romantics..etc.. but by 1980 things really started to kick off again...the great unsung hero of all this is Charlie Harper of the UK subs..kept going through thick and thin..and still at it..
The height of punk was late 77 to late 79 but like all movements they have high points and then as you say the ‘posers’ moved on. But the hardcore carried on and moved to Camden
I’ve seen the Stran*lers live a few times over the years (my own favourite) and know a few others that kept going.
For me Punk is something I can show my kids and say, your generation will never get that radical and cool looking "
Dingwalls at Camden... I was just explaining to my kids who get their music served up on Spotify... About that John peel moment introducing teenage kicks... Music felt a bit more special then as you had to make a bit more effort to find it or see it... |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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Dingwalls at Camden... I was just explaining to my kids who get their music served up on Spotify... About that John peel moment introducing teenage kicks... Music felt a bit more special then as you had to make a bit more effort to find it or see it... "
Nail on the head - back then discovering new music was an adventure rather than the disposable way we find it all now - things like getting a new album and not only listening to it endlessly track by track but also devouring the sleeve and the inner as you listened to it are lost to kids of today who download the tracks they like - or finding that the B-side of a single was actually quite good too - or discovering the little scratched messages on the run out bit of the vinyl...ah happy memories |
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