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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The two guys who founded the brand have always had a social conscience and been vocal about it.
Fair enough.
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They don't have anything to do with the company anymore. They sold it circa 2000. Looks like big companies are reversing their old policies of staying silent on political issues incase they offend anyone and damage sales. No doubt brought about by the recent 'silence is complicit' views expressed recently. I wonder if they'll tackle some of the major ongoing issues of human rights breaches in the Middle East as well. |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"The two guys who founded the brand have always had a social conscience and been vocal about it.
Fair enough.
They don't have anything to do with the company anymore. They sold it circa 2000. Looks like big companies are reversing their old policies of staying silent on political issues incase they offend anyone and damage sales. No doubt brought about by the recent 'silence is complicit' views expressed recently. I wonder if they'll tackle some of the major ongoing issues of human rights breaches in the Middle East as well."
They’re still linked with the foundation I had understood. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Ben snd jerrys fought a lawsuit in America to give their migrant workers such luxuries as a proper bed , clean water, electricity in their accommodation, and a minimum of 8 hours between shifts.
All while displaying the fair trade sign on the cartons. Woke hypocrisy at it's finest.
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"The two guys who founded the brand have always had a social conscience and been vocal about it.
Fair enough.
Absolutely. They’re an awesome partnership doing a lot of work with refugees  "
Hope they share their wealth... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I dunno, we had a fucking utter dickhead who owns Witherspoon's lecturing us about Brexit for months. If he can spout off, fair do's to the Ben and Jerry's guys... |
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Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous. |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous."
Let it go Belle and Sebastian..
Next you will be ranting about the T word |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
Let it go Belle and Sebastian..
Next you will be ranting about the T word "
Tom, that's what they are hoping you do....forget... |
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"Why is there ice cream so expensive ?
And Haggan Daz
Rip off
You’re only meant to buy it when it’s on offer."
I can't even bring myself to buy it when it's on offer...
Still very expensive. Nice but expensive.. |
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I’ve always found it funny how I perceive the value of things. I’ll think nothing of spending £5 on a pint of beer that last 20 minutes, yet I’ll bulk at spending a similar amount on something that might last days. Silly logic. |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
Let it go Belle and Sebastian..
Next you will be ranting about the T word
Tom, that's what they are hoping you do....forget... "
I am like an elephant. I never forget but time is the healer Belle and Sebastian...
Don't be like those retired Miners and Dockers who sang, Hey Ho, The Witch is Dead when Margaret Thatcher passed away.
You have Essex privilege and live in one of the finest parts of the country. Enjoy what you have. Stop fretting over things you don't have or can't control |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
Let it go Belle and Sebastian..
Next you will be ranting about the T word
Tom, that's what they are hoping you do....forget...
I am like an elephant. I never forget but time is the healer Belle and Sebastian...
Don't be like those retired Miners and Dockers who sang, Hey Ho, The Witch is Dead when Margaret Thatcher passed away.
You have Essex privilege and live in one of the finest parts of the country. Enjoy what you have. Stop fretting over things you don't have or can't control "
...did you just tell someone else to stop fretting, Tom?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
Let it go Belle and Sebastian..
Next you will be ranting about the T word
Tom, that's what they are hoping you do....forget...
I am like an elephant. I never forget but time is the healer Belle and Sebastian...
Don't be like those retired Miners and Dockers who sang, Hey Ho, The Witch is Dead when Margaret Thatcher passed away.
You have Essex privilege and live in one of the finest parts of the country. Enjoy what you have. Stop fretting over things you don't have or can't control "
Try telling that to the families who had people die needlessly because the bloke who was supposed to be destined for the job, just wasn't fit for purpose. I'm sure those families will take great comfort in your words. I'll pass them on. |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
Let it go Belle and Sebastian..
Next you will be ranting about the T word
Tom, that's what they are hoping you do....forget...
I am like an elephant. I never forget but time is the healer Belle and Sebastian...
Don't be like those retired Miners and Dockers who sang, Hey Ho, The Witch is Dead when Margaret Thatcher passed away.
You have Essex privilege and live in one of the finest parts of the country. Enjoy what you have. Stop fretting over things you don't have or can't control
Try telling that to the families who had people die needlessly because the bloke who was supposed to be destined for the job, just wasn't fit for purpose. I'm sure those families will take great comfort in your words. I'll pass them on."
Glass not even half full..
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
Let it go Belle and Sebastian..
Next you will be ranting about the T word
Tom, that's what they are hoping you do....forget...
I am like an elephant. I never forget but time is the healer Belle and Sebastian...
Don't be like those retired Miners and Dockers who sang, Hey Ho, The Witch is Dead when Margaret Thatcher passed away.
You have Essex privilege and live in one of the finest parts of the country. Enjoy what you have. Stop fretting over things you don't have or can't control
Try telling that to the families who had people die needlessly because the bloke who was supposed to be destined for the job, just wasn't fit for purpose. I'm sure those families will take great comfort in your words. I'll pass them on.
Glass not even half full..
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Not your fault Tom, you have been gaslit not to give a fuck... |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
Let it go Belle and Sebastian..
Next you will be ranting about the T word
Tom, that's what they are hoping you do....forget...
I am like an elephant. I never forget but time is the healer Belle and Sebastian...
Don't be like those retired Miners and Dockers who sang, Hey Ho, The Witch is Dead when Margaret Thatcher passed away.
You have Essex privilege and live in one of the finest parts of the country. Enjoy what you have. Stop fretting over things you don't have or can't control
Try telling that to the families who had people die needlessly because the bloke who was supposed to be destined for the job, just wasn't fit for purpose. I'm sure those families will take great comfort in your words. I'll pass them on.
Glass not even half full..
Not your fault Tom, you have been gaslit not to give a fuck..."
It's not that I don't care but it's how I cope..
I used to watch an old show with Frankie Howard in it called Up Pompei.
There was an old soothsayer who would appear once in a while saying, We are Doomed, The End of the World is Nigh...
I think she retired somewhere near Southend |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
Let it go Belle and Sebastian..
Next you will be ranting about the T word
Tom, that's what they are hoping you do....forget...
I am like an elephant. I never forget but time is the healer Belle and Sebastian...
Don't be like those retired Miners and Dockers who sang, Hey Ho, The Witch is Dead when Margaret Thatcher passed away.
You have Essex privilege and live in one of the finest parts of the country. Enjoy what you have. Stop fretting over things you don't have or can't control
Try telling that to the families who had people die needlessly because the bloke who was supposed to be destined for the job, just wasn't fit for purpose. I'm sure those families will take great comfort in your words. I'll pass them on.
Glass not even half full..
Not your fault Tom, you have been gaslit not to give a fuck...
It's not that I don't care but it's how I cope..
I used to watch an old show with Frankie Howard in it called Up Pompei.
There was an old soothsayer who would appear once in a while saying, We are Doomed, The End of the World is Nigh...
I think she retired somewhere near Southend "
Again, easy to be flippant when it doesn't effect you. We have a national shortage of empathy....it's a shame Tom |
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I used to watch an old show with Frankie Howard in it called Up Pompei.
There was an old soothsayer who would appear once in a while saying, We are Doomed, The End of the World is Nigh...
I think she retired somewhere near Southend "
She was right in her case then |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
Let it go Belle and Sebastian..
Next you will be ranting about the T word
Tom, that's what they are hoping you do....forget...
I am like an elephant. I never forget but time is the healer Belle and Sebastian...
Don't be like those retired Miners and Dockers who sang, Hey Ho, The Witch is Dead when Margaret Thatcher passed away.
You have Essex privilege and live in one of the finest parts of the country. Enjoy what you have. Stop fretting over things you don't have or can't control
Try telling that to the families who had people die needlessly because the bloke who was supposed to be destined for the job, just wasn't fit for purpose. I'm sure those families will take great comfort in your words. I'll pass them on.
Glass not even half full..
Not your fault Tom, you have been gaslit not to give a fuck...
It's not that I don't care but it's how I cope..
I used to watch an old show with Frankie Howard in it called Up Pompei.
There was an old soothsayer who would appear once in a while saying, We are Doomed, The End of the World is Nigh...
I think she retired somewhere near Southend
Again, easy to be flippant when it doesn't effect you. We have a national shortage of empathy....it's a shame Tom"
Tom isn't short of empathy, he believes that All Lives Matter. |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
Let it go Belle and Sebastian..
Next you will be ranting about the T word
Tom, that's what they are hoping you do....forget...
I am like an elephant. I never forget but time is the healer Belle and Sebastian...
Don't be like those retired Miners and Dockers who sang, Hey Ho, The Witch is Dead when Margaret Thatcher passed away.
You have Essex privilege and live in one of the finest parts of the country. Enjoy what you have. Stop fretting over things you don't have or can't control
Try telling that to the families who had people die needlessly because the bloke who was supposed to be destined for the job, just wasn't fit for purpose. I'm sure those families will take great comfort in your words. I'll pass them on.
Glass not even half full..
Not your fault Tom, you have been gaslit not to give a fuck...
It's not that I don't care but it's how I cope..
I used to watch an old show with Frankie Howard in it called Up Pompei.
There was an old soothsayer who would appear once in a while saying, We are Doomed, The End of the World is Nigh...
I think she retired somewhere near Southend
Again, easy to be flippant when it doesn't effect you. We have a national shortage of empathy....it's a shame Tom
Tom isn't short of empathy, he believes that All Lives Matter. "
Everyone believes that surely.. |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
Let it go Belle and Sebastian..
Next you will be ranting about the T word
Tom, that's what they are hoping you do....forget...
I am like an elephant. I never forget but time is the healer Belle and Sebastian...
Don't be like those retired Miners and Dockers who sang, Hey Ho, The Witch is Dead when Margaret Thatcher passed away.
You have Essex privilege and live in one of the finest parts of the country. Enjoy what you have. Stop fretting over things you don't have or can't control
Try telling that to the families who had people die needlessly because the bloke who was supposed to be destined for the job, just wasn't fit for purpose. I'm sure those families will take great comfort in your words. I'll pass them on.
Glass not even half full..
Not your fault Tom, you have been gaslit not to give a fuck...
It's not that I don't care but it's how I cope..
I used to watch an old show with Frankie Howard in it called Up Pompei.
There was an old soothsayer who would appear once in a while saying, We are Doomed, The End of the World is Nigh...
I think she retired somewhere near Southend
Again, easy to be flippant when it doesn't effect you. We have a national shortage of empathy....it's a shame Tom
Tom isn't short of empathy, he believes that All Lives Matter. "
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"A lives matter....except those in dinghies it would appear..."
Well I do have sympathy for people fleeing war torn countries with corrupt regimes where there is no clean water or medicines like France..
But then again, what is sympathy.. one definition is that it is something that comes between shit and syphillis in the dictionary .. |
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"A lives matter....except those in dinghies it would appear...
Well I do have sympathy for people fleeing war torn countries with corrupt regimes where there is no clean water or medicines like France..
But then again, what is sympathy.. one definition is that it is something that comes between shit and syphillis in the dictionary .."
That's not a definition. It's barely a joke. |
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"Well there is often more than one truth...
It really depends on what people want to believe..."
Well, there can be many 'truths' but facts are facts. It's s fact that certain people celebrate if these poor people drown in these boats. It's also a fact that we are incredibly fortunate in this country to not have had any conflict in this land. So much so that it is unimaginable to people, hence why they lack compassion for these people. |
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"Well there is often more than one truth...
It really depends on what people want to believe...
Well, there can be many 'truths' but facts are facts. It's s fact that certain people celebrate if these poor people drown in these boats. It's also a fact that we are incredibly fortunate in this country to not have had any conflict in this land. So much so that it is unimaginable to people, hence why they lack compassion for these people."
The latter about compassion is an assumption not a fact.
But hey.. I am not out to argue with you, upset or offend you.. so I will leave it here...
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well there is often more than one truth...
It really depends on what people want to believe...
Well, there can be many 'truths' but facts are facts. It's s fact that certain people celebrate if these poor people drown in these boats. It's also a fact that we are incredibly fortunate in this country to not have had any conflict in this land. So much so that it is unimaginable to people, hence why they lack compassion for these people.
The latter about compassion is an assumption not a fact.
But hey.. I am not out to argue with you, upset or offend you.. so I will leave it here...
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Really? Not saying all people but,just take a look at Twitter or The Daily Mail comments section....it's a fact Tom, a very uncomfortable one. |
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"Well there is often more than one truth...
It really depends on what people want to believe...
Well, there can be many 'truths' but facts are facts. It's s fact that certain people celebrate if these poor people drown in these boats. It's also a fact that we are incredibly fortunate in this country to not have had any conflict in this land. So much so that it is unimaginable to people, hence why they lack compassion for these people.
The latter about compassion is an assumption not a fact.
But hey.. I am not out to argue with you, upset or offend you.. so I will leave it here...
Really? Not saying all people but,just take a look at Twitter or The Daily Mail comments section....it's a fact Tom, a very uncomfortable one."
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By *rx1Couple
over a year ago
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I cannot imagine anyone would take any delight when anyone dies crossing the Channel.
The point being they are fleeing France.
People have fled their own War ravaged Countries in desperation. They have travelled through Countless Countries, Through the whole of France to try and come here.
Clearly our Benefit system is the big attraction.
We are a over crowded Island as it is. We cannot keep opening the door. The Rest of Europe don’t seem to be offering very much. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well I take your point.
Happy to debate but not argue. I do not want to cause upset to you both "
No probs Tom. Won't upset us, as you said, we have it easy compared to these poor souls who have probably seen things we cannot even imagine. |
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I do wonder if England should do the same.. virtually every homeless alcoholic in London seems to have a Glasgow accent.. let's put them on the train to Paris..
And as for the men on dingies.. free passage up to Hadrian's Wall and over that border to Scotland.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I cannot imagine anyone would take any delight when anyone dies crossing the Channel.
The point being they are fleeing France.
People have fled their own War ravaged Countries in desperation. They have travelled through Countless Countries, Through the whole of France to try and come here.
Clearly our Benefit system is the big attraction.
We are a over crowded Island as it is. We cannot keep opening the door. The Rest of Europe don’t seem to be offering very much."
Hey, possibly it's because they have family here already, or they speak the language. Which is more than can be said for the Brits who move to Spain each year!
You may also want to look at the numbers of refugees that European countries have taken in. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I cannot imagine anyone would take any delight when anyone dies crossing the Channel.
The point being they are fleeing France.
People have fled their own War ravaged Countries in desperation. They have travelled through Countless Countries, Through the whole of France to try and come here.
Clearly our Benefit system is the big attraction.
We are a over crowded Island as it is. We cannot keep opening the door. The Rest of Europe don’t seem to be offering very much."
Also, you must be in absolute fits at the possibility of 3 million immigrants from Hong Kong being given residency?? |
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"I cannot imagine anyone would take any delight when anyone dies crossing the Channel.
The point being they are fleeing France.
People have fled their own War ravaged Countries in desperation. They have travelled through Countless Countries, Through the whole of France to try and come here.
Clearly our Benefit system is the big attraction.
We are a over crowded Island as it is. We cannot keep opening the door. The Rest of Europe don’t seem to be offering very much.
Also, you must be in absolute fits at the possibility of 3 million immigrants from Hong Kong being given residency??"
Well one difference is that the Hong Kong applicants will be legally here. The people fleeing war torn France on the other hand...
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I cannot imagine anyone would take any delight when anyone dies crossing the Channel.
The point being they are fleeing France.
People have fled their own War ravaged Countries in desperation. They have travelled through Countless Countries, Through the whole of France to try and come here.
Clearly our Benefit system is the big attraction.
We are a over crowded Island as it is. We cannot keep opening the door. The Rest of Europe don’t seem to be offering very much."
Economic migrants. They have passed through other safe countries just to get to the UK.
The french are turning a blind eye as the dinghies pass them by.
No more Get our boarders properly patrolled
Make the crossing route unviable..
The Woke lefties will let them all in |
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"I cannot imagine anyone would take any delight when anyone dies crossing the Channel.
The point being they are fleeing France.
People have fled their own War ravaged Countries in desperation. They have travelled through Countless Countries, Through the whole of France to try and come here.
Clearly our Benefit system is the big attraction.
We are a over crowded Island as it is. We cannot keep opening the door. The Rest of Europe don’t seem to be offering very much.
Also, you must be in absolute fits at the possibility of 3 million immigrants from Hong Kong being given residency??
Well one difference is that the Hong Kong applicants will be legally here. The people fleeing war torn France on the other hand...
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A handful, don't be taken in by silly little Nige and is 'invasion' bollocks. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I cannot imagine anyone would take any delight when anyone dies crossing the Channel.
The point being they are fleeing France.
People have fled their own War ravaged Countries in desperation. They have travelled through Countless Countries, Through the whole of France to try and come here.
Clearly our Benefit system is the big attraction.
We are a over crowded Island as it is. We cannot keep opening the door. The Rest of Europe don’t seem to be offering very much.
Economic migrants. They have passed through other safe countries just to get to the UK.
The french are turning a blind eye as the dinghies pass them by.
No more Get our boarders properly patrolled
Make the crossing route unviable..
The Woke lefties will let them all in "
'woke lefties'....I have to laugh. You should be thinking of your 'fascist righties' who decided to invade countries, destroy their infrastructure and create the problem in the first place. |
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The Woke are the new faschists to be fair.. cancel culture and all that... I wonder if the faschists will stop buying Ben and Jerry's ..
Won't affect them with a few million in the bank tho..
No doubt the comfortable upper middle classes in Southend will no longer stock it for their dinner party and Bridge nights... |
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By *rx1Couple
over a year ago
Near Okehampton. |
"I cannot imagine anyone would take any delight when anyone dies crossing the Channel.
The point being they are fleeing France.
People have fled their own War ravaged Countries in desperation. They have travelled through Countless Countries, Through the whole of France to try and come here.
Clearly our Benefit system is the big attraction.
We are a over crowded Island as it is. We cannot keep opening the door. The Rest of Europe don’t seem to be offering very much.
Hey, possibly it's because they have family here already, or they speak the language. Which is more than can be said for the Brits who move to Spain each year!
You may also want to look at the numbers of refugees that European countries have taken in. "
It wasn’t a point of trying to offend anyone just a point of view. We are not so out raged by it all, just making an observation.
You make a point of illegal immigrants having family here and they speak the Language? Really is that it.
I didn’t say others were not taking these poor people in, just said they don’t seem to be offering very much.
Not sure what the Point is you are making about people Legally moving to Spain has to do with it. Don’t think many leave here to take advantage to any benefits in Spain.
Hong Kong is entirely different and is a legal process whatever your political view is. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I cannot imagine anyone would take any delight when anyone dies crossing the Channel.
The point being they are fleeing France.
People have fled their own War ravaged Countries in desperation. They have travelled through Countless Countries, Through the whole of France to try and come here.
Clearly our Benefit system is the big attraction.
We are a over crowded Island as it is. We cannot keep opening the door. The Rest of Europe don’t seem to be offering very much.
Hey, possibly it's because they have family here already, or they speak the language. Which is more than can be said for the Brits who move to Spain each year!
You may also want to look at the numbers of refugees that European countries have taken in.
It wasn’t a point of trying to offend anyone just a point of view. We are not so out raged by it all, just making an observation.
You make a point of illegal immigrants having family here and they speak the Language? Really is that it.
I didn’t say others were not taking these poor people in, just said they don’t seem to be offering very much.
Not sure what the Point is you are making about people Legally moving to Spain has to do with it. Don’t think many leave here to take advantage to any benefits in Spain.
Hong Kong is entirely different and is a legal process whatever your political view is."
Well, you said we are overcrowded. Yet, you don't mind potentially 3 million taking residency here. Kinda makes no sense.
And if they are economic migrants, so what? Is trying to make a better life a crime now? Better get used to it, gonna be a lot more immigration after Brexit, just won't be from Europe... |
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"The Woke are the new faschists to be fair.. cancel culture and all that... I wonder if the faschists will stop buying Ben and Jerry's ..
Won't affect them with a few million in the bank tho..
No doubt the comfortable upper middle classes in Southend will no longer stock it for their dinner party and Bridge nights... "
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"I cannot imagine anyone would take any delight when anyone dies crossing the Channel.
The point being they are fleeing France.
People have fled their own War ravaged Countries in desperation. They have travelled through Countless Countries, Through the whole of France to try and come here.
Clearly our Benefit system is the big attraction.
We are a over crowded Island as it is. We cannot keep opening the door. The Rest of Europe don’t seem to be offering very much.
Hey, possibly it's because they have family here already, or they speak the language. Which is more than can be said for the Brits who move to Spain each year!
You may also want to look at the numbers of refugees that European countries have taken in.
It wasn’t a point of trying to offend anyone just a point of view. We are not so out raged by it all, just making an observation.
You make a point of illegal immigrants having family here and they speak the Language? Really is that it.
I didn’t say others were not taking these poor people in, just said they don’t seem to be offering very much.
Not sure what the Point is you are making about people Legally moving to Spain has to do with it. Don’t think many leave here to take advantage to any benefits in Spain.
Hong Kong is entirely different and is a legal process whatever your political view is.
Well, you said we are overcrowded. Yet, you don't mind potentially 3 million taking residency here. Kinda makes no sense.
And if they are economic migrants, so what? Is trying to make a better life a crime now? Better get used to it, gonna be a lot more immigration after Brexit, just won't be from Europe..."
You are obsessed with Brexit.. let it go.. it is poisoning your reason. If it's so bad after Brexit then emigrate. Be an economic migrant.. |
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"I cannot imagine anyone would take any delight when anyone dies crossing the Channel.
The point being they are fleeing France.
People have fled their own War ravaged Countries in desperation. They have travelled through Countless Countries, Through the whole of France to try and come here.
Clearly our Benefit system is the big attraction.
We are a over crowded Island as it is. We cannot keep opening the door. The Rest of Europe don’t seem to be offering very much.
Hey, possibly it's because they have family here already, or they speak the language. Which is more than can be said for the Brits who move to Spain each year!
You may also want to look at the numbers of refugees that European countries have taken in.
It wasn’t a point of trying to offend anyone just a point of view. We are not so out raged by it all, just making an observation.
You make a point of illegal immigrants having family here and they speak the Language? Really is that it.
I didn’t say others were not taking these poor people in, just said they don’t seem to be offering very much.
Not sure what the Point is you are making about people Legally moving to Spain has to do with it. Don’t think many leave here to take advantage to any benefits in Spain.
Hong Kong is entirely different and is a legal process whatever your political view is.
Well, you said we are overcrowded. Yet, you don't mind potentially 3 million taking residency here. Kinda makes no sense.
And if they are economic migrants, so what? Is trying to make a better life a crime now? Better get used to it, gonna be a lot more immigration after Brexit, just won't be from Europe...
You are obsessed with Brexit.. let it go.. it is poisoning your reason. If it's so bad after Brexit then emigrate. Be an economic migrant.. "
Tom, don't get angry. Not obsessed with Brexit, just I want the best for my country.....some see that as a crime |
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No pun intended but a drowning man clutches at straws pretty much sums up Belle and Sebastian's argument. To bring Spain and Hong Kong into it is all smoke and mirrors. And I don't buy into the family here bullshit. I have family in Oz I have not seen in decades. If they claim asylum in France and become French they can live here legally ... Nobody forces them into these boats so don't expect a wave (no pun) of sympathy ...
They literally pay their money and take their chance...
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"No pun intended but a drowning man clutches at straws pretty much sums up Belle and Sebastian's argument. To bring Spain and Hong Kong into it is all smoke and mirrors. And I don't buy into the family here bullshit. I have family in Oz I have not seen in decades. If they claim asylum in France and become French they can live here legally ... Nobody forces them into these boats so don't expect a wave (no pun) of sympathy ...
They literally pay their money and take their chance...
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous."
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"I cannot imagine anyone would take any delight when anyone dies crossing the Channel.
The point being they are fleeing France.
People have fled their own War ravaged Countries in desperation. They have travelled through Countless Countries, Through the whole of France to try and come here.
Clearly our Benefit system is the big attraction.
We are a over crowded Island as it is. We cannot keep opening the door. The Rest of Europe don’t seem to be offering very much.
Hey, possibly it's because they have family here already, or they speak the language. Which is more than can be said for the Brits who move to Spain each year!
You may also want to look at the numbers of refugees that European countries have taken in.
It wasn’t a point of trying to offend anyone just a point of view. We are not so out raged by it all, just making an observation.
You make a point of illegal immigrants having family here and they speak the Language? Really is that it.
I didn’t say others were not taking these poor people in, just said they don’t seem to be offering very much.
Not sure what the Point is you are making about people Legally moving to Spain has to do with it. Don’t think many leave here to take advantage to any benefits in Spain.
Hong Kong is entirely different and is a legal process whatever your political view is.
Well, you said we are overcrowded. Yet, you don't mind potentially 3 million taking residency here. Kinda makes no sense.
And if they are economic migrants, so what? Is trying to make a better life a crime now? Better get used to it, gonna be a lot more immigration after Brexit, just won't be from Europe..."
Amazing, you have all the answers. You want to trip us up on points that we haven’t made, but don’t want to comment on certain things you have said. Ie the Spanish migration or all the Illegal immigrants have family here nd speak our language.
The point is Illegal. We are not saying things because we are bloody minded, it must be dreadful for them, but we are not a bottomless pit
It is a Fact we are overcrowded. It isn’t a fact that 3 million people will be coming here from Hong Kong.
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I don't know Belle and Sebastian but I know that the paint shops in Southend would be poorer without them.. they literally must spend hours painting the next placard before setting off with their oyster cards to the next demo..
No brexit, save the whale, ban the bomb, save the rainforest, Up with Communism, Down with Tories....
Their wokeness is never ending. Next they will be saying that Megxit was down to a racist plot.. |
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"I don't know Belle and Sebastian but I know that the paint shops in Southend would be poorer without them.. they literally must spend hours painting the next placard before setting off with their oyster cards to the next demo..
No brexit, save the whale, ban the bomb, save the rainforest, Up with Communism, Down with Tories....
Their wokeness is never ending. Next they will be saying that Megxit was down to a racist plot.."
Hang on a minute, we were champagne socialists a minute ago, now we are protesting hippies.....make your mind up Tom. It's almost like you have absolutely no idea what you are on about |
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The patrolling with more boats and talk of the navy is a political soundbite. The reality is that as soon as a boat is deemed in distress under international law that another vessel must give aid. That's why the trafficers give them fuck all petrol.Best thing is to stop all patrols in my view and just stick to the last three miles.
Let Belle and Sebastian set up a soup kitchen on Southend beach and apologise on behalf of the UK government for their lack of action and tell them that Boris missed the last Cobra meeting about their plight. They might even get free sponsorship from Ben and Jerry's ice cream. People blame the traffickers. Its like blaming the drug dealers. It takes two to tango.
Of course, Belle and Sebastiy have plenty of room to put them up on their salary just short of 60k which they intimated was a modest sum. |
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"The patrolling with more boats and talk of the navy is a political soundbite. The reality is that as soon as a boat is deemed in distress under international law that another vessel must give aid. That's why the trafficers give them fuck all petrol.Best thing is to stop all patrols in my view and just stick to the last three miles.
Let Belle and Sebastian set up a soup kitchen on Southend beach and apologise on behalf of the UK government for their lack of action and tell them that Boris missed the last Cobra meeting about their plight. They might even get free sponsorship from Ben and Jerry's ice cream. People blame the traffickers. Its like blaming the drug dealers. It takes two to tango.
Of course, Belle and Sebastiy have plenty of room to put them up on their salary just short of 60k which they intimated was a modest sum. "
Not a modest sum,but not enough to buy the mansion you seemed to think we lived in.
Poor Tom, it irks him so to see people caring and makes him wonder why he hates so many things for no apparent reason. It must be very confusing. |
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Stop being scared Tom, they like to scare you and make you hate. Keeps your attention away from the utter hash they are making at governing this country. |
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"Stop being scared Tom, they like to scare you and make you hate. Keeps your attention away from the utter hash they are making at governing this country. "
Au Contrair .
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Walnuts and celery
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"You are obsessed with Brexit.. let it go.. it is poisoning your reason. If it's so bad after Brexit then emigrate. Be an economic migrant.. "
"Stop banging on about me and my mates vandalising your house. If you don't like your house with broken windows and giant spunky cocks drawn on the front door, just move house" |
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"Stop being scared Tom, they like to scare you and make you hate. Keeps your attention away from the utter hash they are making at governing this country.
Au Contrair .
I hate only two things..
Walnuts and celery
I am not a hater"
No, you are not...
Apart from Meghan Markle, people looking to make a better life, people who don't want nuclear weapons, people trying to stop rainforest being cut down, people who don't want whales to be killed.....we something about communism....
Communism is crap, you are right there. The other stuff, well, I'd not think any of those a bad trait. |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous."
this ... fuck me |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
this ... fuck me "
This..
During the height of the pandemic it was the dancing nurses, then the NHS and care sectors abuse of Ppe and then it was the last do nothing militants in the teaching profession..
The incompetent leasing the easily manipulated.. |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
this ... fuck me
This..
During the height of the pandemic it was the dancing nurses, then the NHS and care sectors abuse of Ppe and then it was the last do nothing militants in the teaching profession..
The incompetent leasing the easily manipulated.."
The language....'invasion'....I suspect those who fought in The Battle of Britain would have swapped their invasion for our current 'invasion' |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
this ... fuck me
This..
During the height of the pandemic it was the dancing nurses, then the NHS and care sectors abuse of Ppe and then it was the last do nothing militants in the teaching profession..
The incompetent leasing the easily manipulated..
The language....'invasion'....I suspect those who fought in The Battle of Britain would have swapped their invasion for our current 'invasion'"
The irony is that much of the popular language by some recently is so reminiscent of the very fascists that those brave people of many nations gave their lives to help to stop.. |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
this ... fuck me
This..
During the height of the pandemic it was the dancing nurses, then the NHS and care sectors abuse of Ppe and then it was the last do nothing militants in the teaching profession..
The incompetent leasing the easily manipulated..
The language....'invasion'....I suspect those who fought in The Battle of Britain would have swapped their invasion for our current 'invasion'
The irony is that much of the popular language by some recently is so reminiscent of the very fascists that those brave people of many nations gave their lives to help to stop.."
But but....look at those handful of people in dinghies. Keep looking.....just don't, whatever you do, don't look at the utter clusterfuck we have presided over.... |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
this ... fuck me
This..
During the height of the pandemic it was the dancing nurses, then the NHS and care sectors abuse of Ppe and then it was the last do nothing militants in the teaching profession..
The incompetent leasing the easily manipulated..
The language....'invasion'....I suspect those who fought in The Battle of Britain would have swapped their invasion for our current 'invasion'
The irony is that much of the popular language by some recently is so reminiscent of the very fascists that those brave people of many nations gave their lives to help to stop..
But but....look at those handful of people in dinghies. Keep looking.....just don't, whatever you do, don't look at the utter clusterfuck we have presided over...."
Twas ever thus.. |
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"Buy british....who owns Wall's ice cream these days..."
Unilever. The same company that own Ben & Jerry's. And domestos. Now there's an idea for a new flavour of ice cream |
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"Perhaps, what we should be thinking about is the highest death rate in Europe and the worst recession in the G7, led by a bloke who went on holiday for two weeks in February and didn't attend 5 COBRA meetings.....but anyway, look at those people in dinghies....invasion..arghhhhhhhh.
We are so easily distracted, it's ridiculous.
this ... fuck me
This..
During the height of the pandemic it was the dancing nurses, then the NHS and care sectors abuse of Ppe and then it was the last do nothing militants in the teaching profession..
The incompetent leasing the easily manipulated..
The language....'invasion'....I suspect those who fought in The Battle of Britain would have swapped their invasion for our current 'invasion'
The irony is that much of the popular language by some recently is so reminiscent of the very fascists that those brave people of many nations gave their lives to help to stop..
But but....look at those handful of people in dinghies. Keep looking.....just don't, whatever you do, don't look at the utter clusterfuck we have presided over...."
"clandestine threat" please.
If they're trying to be clandestine they're not making a very good job of it... |
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"If the channel was full of man eating sharks and Crocs they would not come
Just eat your ice cream and revel in your middle class comfort :-
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The middle classes don't shop in the Co-oP you know..
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"If the channel was full of man eating sharks and Crocs they would not come
Just eat your ice cream and revel in your middle class comfort :-
D
The middle classes don't shop in the Co-oP you know..
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I don't know because a few days ago I was a champagne socialist in a mansion, then a few hours ago I was an unemployed, woke, hippy who just went to demonstrations all day.....I'm very confused. |
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Bacause of France being added to the quarantine list people are scrambling home early to beat the deadline. Airlines, trains and ferry companies are trebling prices. It's probably cheaper to get a dinghy |
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