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"Do you extend such empathies to all animals or just the pretty furry ones ?" Yes to all and as well to the elephants. | |||
"Do you extend such empathies to all animals or just the pretty furry ones ?Yes to all and as well to the elephants." Are elephants not animals? | |||
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"Do you extend such empathies to all animals or just the pretty furry ones ?Yes to all and as well to the elephants. Are elephants not animals?" Yes they did. I just worded it abit wrong there. | |||
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"I didn't realise people eat bears. " Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years. | |||
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"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?" I can only assume that yoou're totally vegan? | |||
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"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years." Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies.. | |||
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"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?" I agree.. I’m against the unnecessary killing of any animal particularly where it’s undertaken to make “ good tv”” those that live in the more remote and hostile areas of the world , like Alaska , do so knowing the risks it faces Or are paid to be there by television. I wonder if when the programme stops , will they be willing to stay. . If they have to kill bears fir food then Perhaps they need to relocate to an area with infrastructure and social commerce, where they can live socially. Then again it doesn’t make “ good tv”” Just my opinion. . | |||
"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it. " Pity us humans have no natural predators then?  x | |||
"All animals have familys? U should hear the poor mamas calling their babies at bottom of daughters garden it's that time of year again! They go on for about 2 days! People very selective! A sheep pig horse cat dog all the same wouldn't eat any of them! X" That is also right, some can go without their parents for days depending what animals it is, as they are out looking for food. | |||
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"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years. Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies.." I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too. | |||
"All animals have familys? U should hear the poor mamas calling their babies at bottom of daughters garden it's that time of year again! They go on for about 2 days! People very selective! A sheep pig horse cat dog all the same wouldn't eat any of them! XThat is also right, some can go without their parents for days depending what animals it is, as they are out looking for food." Sadly they wont c their babies again ever! As the farmer has taken them to another field for a short while then it's of to the table for them poor babies!  x | |||
"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it. Pity us humans have no natural predators then? x"That’s precisely why numbers of so many species are in decline and others are made extinct. Too many people that couldn’t care less that are killing animals, usually for money  | |||
"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years. Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too." If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous. Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that. | |||
"Loaded subject. People are really viciously cruel to rattlesnakes and nobody cares much because well, they're rattlesnakes. I'm not vegan so can't say much without being hypocritical but humanity in all our dealings with living things is the way forward." Yes it sure is a loaded subject too and people can be that too, same not a vegan but, there is a difference of what thing we eat as well and the sustainability of it, so in that way we can be more selective of what choices to have to eat for meat. | |||
" all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. " For whom? For people? So really, as soon as people decide they want to live there then the animals just need to get used to the idea that they're going to be killed. "All animals". This is pure Earth as Man's dominion, to rule as he sees fit as he was made in God's image stuff. I thought this had died with the Empire. " As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. " This is simply not true. For a start, elephants - oddly - eat from trees. Where they live, few other things eat from trees. They don't share territory with giraffes, for example. I don't know where you're getting your wildlife information, but Johny Morris would have a fit. If he wasn't dead. (And by the way, [italics] decimate [/italics] means "to reduce by 1/10.") You're welcome. | |||
"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?" ...Unfortunately it's just the Bear necessities of life | |||
"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it. Pity us humans have no natural predators then? x"We do, lions tigers sharks are just 3 | |||
"I think the lines become blurred when its you get to traditional tribes such as Inuits who are careful and and only kill what they will eat and use every part I don't have as much of a problem "This ^ and I imagine the individuals hunting a bear do pretty much the same. What each culture does is their ways, just because we don’t do it, doesn’t make it wrong. | |||
"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it. Pity us humans have no natural predators then? x
We do, lions tigers sharks are just 3"So they enough to control our numbers?  or do we need a cull? X | |||
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"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it. " Yes but in a controlled way not in a irresponsible way. | |||
"Bears are right nasty bastard's tear you to pieces..I guess in Alaska it's a case of kill them before they kill us. Besides are always find it funny how people are selective with animals..fine to eat pigs.. cows ..sheep..etc..but take the moral high ground when it's something else.." Yeah same. Slagging off the Chinese for being filthy for eating certain animals at the start of covid 19 meanwhile tucking into their bacon sandwich. | |||
"Bears are right nasty bastard's tear you to pieces..I guess in Alaska it's a case of kill them before they kill us. Besides are always find it funny how people are selective with animals..fine to eat pigs.. cows ..sheep..etc..but take the moral high ground when it's something else.. Yeah same. Slagging off the Chinese for being filthy for eating certain animals at the start of covid 19 meanwhile tucking into their bacon sandwich. " Exactly!! X | |||
"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it? I agree.. I’m against the unnecessary killing of any animal particularly where it’s undertaken to make “ good tv”” those that live in the more remote and hostile areas of the world , like Alaska , do so knowing the risks it faces Or are paid to be there by television. I wonder if when the programme stops , will they be willing to stay. . If they have to kill bears fir food then Perhaps they need to relocate to an area with infrastructure and social commerce, where they can live socially. Then again it doesn’t make “ good tv”” Just my opinion. . " Yes, you are right there  | |||
"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it. Pity us humans have no natural predators then? x
We do, lions tigers sharks are just 3
So they enough to control our numbers? or do we need a cull? X"Quote was we have no natural predators, i pointed out we do. Also nature is now culling humans via the corona virus. The planet cant sustain the current population growth for long its been predicted. | |||
"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?" To object would be hypocritical of me, as I eat meat. I think the indiginous peoples usually have a lot of respect and understanding of the local ecosystems and only take what they need. Killing to ensure their own survival, making use of the whole animal too. I dont really understand your objection Shag, you wouldnt be trying to make people bite now, would you?  | |||
"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it? To object would be hypocritical of me, as I eat meat. I think the indiginous peoples usually have a lot of respect and understanding of the local ecosystems and only take what they need. Killing to ensure their own survival, making use of the whole animal too. I dont really understand your objection Shag, you wouldnt be trying to make people bite now, would you? "These are not indigenous people tho, it is modern ones, where a film crew is follow their life there. | |||
"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it. Pity us humans have no natural predators then? x
We do, lions tigers sharks are just 3
So they enough to control our numbers? or do we need a cull? X
Quote was we have no natural predators, i pointed out we do. Also nature is now culling humans via the corona virus. The planet cant sustain the current population growth for long its been predicted."Not really? There has allways been illnes/disease in all the animal world ! I'm not talking about natural culling! X | |||
"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it? To object would be hypocritical of me, as I eat meat. I think the indiginous peoples usually have a lot of respect and understanding of the local ecosystems and only take what they need. Killing to ensure their own survival, making use of the whole animal too. I dont really understand your objection Shag, you wouldnt be trying to make people bite now, would you? These are not indigenous people tho, it is modern ones, where a film crew is follow their life there."Are they genuine settlers or is it a reality thing? | |||
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"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it? To object would be hypocritical of me, as I eat meat. I think the indiginous peoples usually have a lot of respect and understanding of the local ecosystems and only take what they need. Killing to ensure their own survival, making use of the whole animal too. I dont really understand your objection Shag, you wouldnt be trying to make people bite now, would you? These are not indigenous people tho, it is modern ones, where a film crew is follow their life there.
Are they genuine settlers or is it a reality thing?"Regardless, its hard to retain any moral high ground when you eat meat and use animal byproducts | |||
"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it? To object would be hypocritical of me, as I eat meat. I think the indiginous peoples usually have a lot of respect and understanding of the local ecosystems and only take what they need. Killing to ensure their own survival, making use of the whole animal too. I dont really understand your objection Shag, you wouldnt be trying to make people bite now, would you? These are not indigenous people tho, it is modern ones, where a film crew is follow their life there.
Are they genuine settlers or is it a reality thing?"They live there and have been doing so for many years. | |||
"U don’t get many bears in stoke .. "I think it depends which clubs you frequent... | |||
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"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years. Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too. If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous. Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that. " That is right, they are not aggressive at all, they just hunt them for the food, not that they are attacking them or anything like that. | |||
"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years. Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too. If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous. Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that. That is right, they are not aggressive at all, they just hunt them for the food, not that they are attacking them or anything like that." It is called alaska, the final frontier. | |||
"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years. Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too. If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous. Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that. That is right, they are not aggressive at all, they just hunt them for the food, not that they are attacking them or anything like that.It is called alaska, the final frontier." Ah okay, I have watched the show, I also saw/heard a podcast of one of the guys the show "follows", and imo thought it was quite a decent show, and the guys story on how he decided to move up there and was really interesting. Not sure if people up there are killing for the sake of it, but I'm sure there will be things put into the show to make "good TV", which I'm not so keen on. | |||
"Do you extend such empathies to all animals or just the pretty furry ones ?Yes to all and as well to the elephants." So you’re vegan then ? | |||
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"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years. Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too. If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous. Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that. That is right, they are not aggressive at all, they just hunt them for the food, not that they are attacking them or anything like that.It is called alaska, the final frontier. Ah okay, I have watched the show, I also saw/heard a podcast of one of the guys the show "follows", and imo thought it was quite a decent show, and the guys story on how he decided to move up there and was really interesting. Not sure if people up there are killing for the sake of it, but I'm sure there will be things put into the show to make "good TV", which I'm not so keen on. " Yes it is a good show too but the way the glorify the hunting is not that good but yes it makes good tv, all in all it must be a tough life up there as well. | |||
"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years. Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too. If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous. Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that. That is right, they are not aggressive at all, they just hunt them for the food, not that they are attacking them or anything like that.It is called alaska, the final frontier. Ah okay, I have watched the show, I also saw/heard a podcast of one of the guys the show "follows", and imo thought it was quite a decent show, and the guys story on how he decided to move up there and was really interesting. Not sure if people up there are killing for the sake of it, but I'm sure there will be things put into the show to make "good TV", which I'm not so keen on. Yes it is a good show too but the way the glorify the hunting is not that good but yes it makes good tv, all in all it must be a tough life up there as well." I agree that it's not good to glorify hunting animals in the way that these types of shows do, and tough would be putting it lightly. I have to admit, although it's a romantic notion, I do toy with the idea of going off the grid and living off the land, but would be in warmer climate if I were to do so  | |||
"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years. Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too. If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous. Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that. That is right, they are not aggressive at all, they just hunt them for the food, not that they are attacking them or anything like that.It is called alaska, the final frontier. Ah okay, I have watched the show, I also saw/heard a podcast of one of the guys the show "follows", and imo thought it was quite a decent show, and the guys story on how he decided to move up there and was really interesting. Not sure if people up there are killing for the sake of it, but I'm sure there will be things put into the show to make "good TV", which I'm not so keen on. Yes it is a good show too but the way the glorify the hunting is not that good but yes it makes good tv, all in all it must be a tough life up there as well. I agree that it's not good to glorify hunting animals in the way that these types of shows do, and tough would be putting it lightly. I have to admit, although it's a romantic notion, I do toy with the idea of going off the grid and living off the land, but would be in warmer climate if I were to do so "Yes same here, it would be fun to live like that too and yes in a lot warmer climate as it is too cold there | |||
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"I think the lines become blurred when its you get to traditional tribes such as Inuits who are careful and and only kill what they will eat and use every part I don't have as much of a problem "The Victorians came up with the idea of the 'Noble Savage' - the idea that indigenous people are somehow in tune with their environment and cause it no harm. As an idea it has hung around a remarkably long time - mostly because it implies humans are good and kind at heart, our problems are all the fault of us leaving our 'natural state' The truth isn't as nice. Everywhere humans have gone there has been mass extinctions - and this goes back before our own species of human evolved. We wiped out most of the large animals in North America within a remarkably short time of arriving there - the same in Australia, Madagascar and of course Eurasia - before humans moved out of Africa the largest animals all lived on this giant continent, hard though that is to believe now with Africa being home to the 'big 5' There is no such thing as 'living in harmony' - a wildebeest being drowned by a crocodile in the Zambesi almost certainly doesn't feel harmonious. All there is is equilibrium. Indigenous tribes are (or largely were) in equilibrium where the survival level afforded by their lifestyle matched the reproductive rate of the fauna around them. We mustn't forget that this equilibrium was only achieved after many many species had gone extinct because the ancestors of these indigenous people hunted them faster than they naturally regenerated. We are now more aware of our impact on the world and capable of monitoring the population levels of other species. Should people hunt? I personally cannot understand the desire to inflict pain for sport - and this goes for fishing too - but for food, why not. As long as it is done at a rate that doesn't cause a population decline I honestly cannot see the difference between eating a bear or a cow. | |||
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"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?" Are you vegan? | |||
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"It is illegal to kill brown bears unless you are under attack in Alaska " Yes I thought so too and no they werent under attack, they was hiding to aim for one one there. | |||
"As with all your great threads Shag I’m in total agreement with what ever you say because your finger is always on the pulse. T" Ty and that is good | |||
"It is illegal to kill brown bears unless you are under attack in Alaska Yes I thought so too and no they werent under attack, they was hiding to aim for one one there." Unless the bear had been attacking their livestock...I can't see how that was allowed and in film! | |||
"It is illegal to kill brown bears unless you are under attack in Alaska Yes I thought so too and no they werent under attack, they was hiding to aim for one one there. Unless the bear had been attacking their livestock...I can't see how that was allowed and in film!" Yes I wonder the same and no it wasnt they then took it on their boat to their home. | |||
"It is illegal to kill brown bears unless you are under attack in Alaska Yes I thought so too and no they werent under attack, they was hiding to aim for one one there. Unless the bear had been attacking their livestock...I can't see how that was allowed and in film!Yes I wonder the same and no it wasnt they then took it on their boat to their home." It wasnt a boat, more a canoe. | |||
"It is illegal to kill brown bears unless you are under attack in Alaska Yes I thought so too and no they werent under attack, they was hiding to aim for one one there. Unless the bear had been attacking their livestock...I can't see how that was allowed and in film!Yes I wonder the same and no it wasnt they then took it on their boat to their home." Brown bears are Grizzly bears. Presume they were hunting black bears (which are often brown in colour)? | |||
"It is illegal to kill brown bears unless you are under attack in Alaska Yes I thought so too and no they werent under attack, they was hiding to aim for one one there. Unless the bear had been attacking their livestock...I can't see how that was allowed and in film!Yes I wonder the same and no it wasnt they then took it on their boat to their home. Brown bears are Grizzly bears. Presume they were hunting black bears (which are often brown in colour)?" Yes it can be tricky to see the difference sometimes there. | |||
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