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"politician" I guess I’m a very literal sense... | |||
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"Circus c___n ![]() That’s more like it! | |||
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"I'm going to use unly predictive text to finish this one. I don't know what it's going to say yet. Boris Johnson is a good man in the world who wants to play with the children and their parents in their school. " Sounds like your phone has an agenda xD | |||
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"I'm going to use unly predictive text to finish this one. I don't know what it's going to say yet. Boris Johnson is a good man in the world who wants to play with the children and their parents in their school. Sounds like your phone has an agenda xD" Many of those children could be his.. | |||
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"...a national embarrassment and a narcissist ![]() This ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Singer in AC/DC... ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy." Why? | |||
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"Supersize model " FTFY ![]() | |||
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"You finish the sentence" Who is this guy ? Oh Dominic Cummings right hand. Almost forgot, he signs Dominic's memos. | |||
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"...compromise who saved us from Corbynism." Which is going swimmingly | |||
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"A dangerous cog in a misfiring machine. Like most will more than likely self destruct but not before destroying as much as possible along his merry way." ![]() | |||
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"Man who ended Corbynism " Corbyn ended it himself for being arrogant. | |||
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"Singer in AC/DC... ![]() Ha ha! Not any more. After he lost his hearing he left the band to become PM. | |||
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"I'm going to use unly predictive text to finish this one. I don't know what it's going to say yet. Boris Johnson is a good man in the world who wants to play with the children and their parents in their school. " *Shudder* | |||
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"I'm going to use unly predictive text to finish this one. I don't know what it's going to say yet. Boris Johnson is a good man in the world who wants to play with the children and their parents in their school. Sounds like your phone has an agenda xD" Or been hacked by the Russians | |||
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"... person I feel bad for in many ways. A ton of stuff to deal with. And we all say we know better but truth is, no one knows how to properly deal with what’s been thrown at the world. When half your country ignores your statements about social distancing etc, you’re fighting an uphill battle. A lot of things have gone wrong, but we both can say this much... Boris is a human being and shit can get on top of people. How often do you get stressed in your job? Now quadruple that or more for being the leader of a country. Not a popular opinion, but people always arrogantly suggest they could do better or that he’s an idiot and they completely forget that not only is the pandemic being a thing, but he’s also trying to run the country at the same time." ![]() | |||
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"hes alot better at his job than i thought he would be, but hes along way from being perfect, but nobody is" How bad did you think he was going to be?! ![]() | |||
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"... person I feel bad for in many ways. A ton of stuff to deal with. And we all say we know better but truth is, no one knows how to properly deal with what’s been thrown at the world. When half your country ignores your statements about social distancing etc, you’re fighting an uphill battle. A lot of things have gone wrong, but we both can say this much... Boris is a human being and shit can get on top of people. How often do you get stressed in your job? Now quadruple that or more for being the leader of a country. Not a popular opinion, but people always arrogantly suggest they could do better or that he’s an idiot and they completely forget that not only is the pandemic being a thing, but he’s also trying to run the country at the same time. ![]() I don't think the thread is trying to 'resolve' any thing lol. It's a light hearted bit of fun ![]() | |||
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"... person I feel bad for in many ways. A ton of stuff to deal with. And we all say we know better but truth is, no one knows how to properly deal with what’s been thrown at the world. When half your country ignores your statements about social distancing etc, you’re fighting an uphill battle. A lot of things have gone wrong, but we both can say this much... Boris is a human being and shit can get on top of people. How often do you get stressed in your job? Now quadruple that or more for being the leader of a country. Not a popular opinion, but people always arrogantly suggest they could do better or that he’s an idiot and they completely forget that not only is the pandemic being a thing, but he’s also trying to run the country at the same time." Half the country is a huge overstatement. Maybe if he would have turned up for 1 of the meetings,he may have been better informed. | |||
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"... person I feel bad for in many ways. A ton of stuff to deal with. And we all say we know better but truth is, no one knows how to properly deal with what’s been thrown at the world. When half your country ignores your statements about social distancing etc, you’re fighting an uphill battle. A lot of things have gone wrong, but we both can say this much... Boris is a human being and shit can get on top of people. How often do you get stressed in your job? Now quadruple that or more for being the leader of a country. Not a popular opinion, but people always arrogantly suggest they could do better or that he’s an idiot and they completely forget that not only is the pandemic being a thing, but he’s also trying to run the country at the same time. ![]() ![]() Snog? | |||
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"... person I feel bad for in many ways. A ton of stuff to deal with. And we all say we know better but truth is, no one knows how to properly deal with what’s been thrown at the world. When half your country ignores your statements about social distancing etc, you’re fighting an uphill battle. A lot of things have gone wrong, but we both can say this much... Boris is a human being and shit can get on top of people. How often do you get stressed in your job? Now quadruple that or more for being the leader of a country. Not a popular opinion, but people always arrogantly suggest they could do better or that he’s an idiot and they completely forget that not only is the pandemic being a thing, but he’s also trying to run the country at the same time." Regardless of what he has to deal with, its all part of the job. The job he wanted and lusted after. Fair enough he may not have expected to have to deal with something as large as this, but he knew exactly what he was signing up for in terms of a stressful job and it was in his own interests of power and to feed his own ego and his "mates", not the good of the people or country. The man does nothing at all to inspire respect, in a country of people that have issues with respect for authority as it is. They certainly are going to struggle and rebel against what the lieing waffley blubbering fool tells them to do (just look at the do go out don't go out bullshit). For the most part the government have essentially pushed the issues out of their hands and as good as have said "deal with it yourselves". "good British Common sense" indeed... It is hard to feel sympathy or pity for anyone like him in his position. As it is from his own doing for being in that position completely out of his depth. Corbyn would likely have faired no better at all and would have made similar or mistakes just as equally bad but in different ways. We would have been in no better position as the other half of the population would have ignored what he said too. ![]() | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy." This^. And a sex god! ![]() | |||
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"... person I feel bad for in many ways. A ton of stuff to deal with. And we all say we know better but truth is, no one knows how to properly deal with what’s been thrown at the world. When half your country ignores your statements about social distancing etc, you’re fighting an uphill battle. A lot of things have gone wrong, but we both can say this much... Boris is a human being and shit can get on top of people. How often do you get stressed in your job? Now quadruple that or more for being the leader of a country. Not a popular opinion, but people always arrogantly suggest they could do better or that he’s an idiot and they completely forget that not only is the pandemic being a thing, but he’s also trying to run the country at the same time. Regardless of what he has to deal with, its all part of the job. The job he wanted and lusted after. Fair enough he may not have expected to have to deal with something as large as this, but he knew exactly what he was signing up for in terms of a stressful job and it was in his own interests of power and to feed his own ego and his "mates", not the good of the people or country. The man does nothing at all to inspire respect, in a country of people that have issues with respect for authority as it is. They certainly are going to struggle and rebel against what the lieing waffley blubbering fool tells them to do (just look at the do go out don't go out bullshit). For the most part the government have essentially pushed the issues out of their hands and as good as have said "deal with it yourselves". "good British Common sense" indeed... It is hard to feel sympathy or pity for anyone like him in his position. As it is from his own doing for being in that position completely out of his depth. Corbyn would likely have faired no better at all and would have made similar or mistakes just as equally bad but in different ways. We would have been in no better position as the other half of the population would have ignored what he said too. ![]() Spot on. | |||
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"... person I feel bad for in many ways. A ton of stuff to deal with. And we all say we know better but truth is, no one knows how to properly deal with what’s been thrown at the world. When half your country ignores your statements about social distancing etc, you’re fighting an uphill battle. A lot of things have gone wrong, but we both can say this much... Boris is a human being and shit can get on top of people. How often do you get stressed in your job? Now quadruple that or more for being the leader of a country. Not a popular opinion, but people always arrogantly suggest they could do better or that he’s an idiot and they completely forget that not only is the pandemic being a thing, but he’s also trying to run the country at the same time. ![]() ![]() I don't think it's lighthearted fun. Maybe think how fun it would be if it was anyone else getting abused. | |||
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"... person I feel bad for in many ways. A ton of stuff to deal with. And we all say we know better but truth is, no one knows how to properly deal with what’s been thrown at the world. When half your country ignores your statements about social distancing etc, you’re fighting an uphill battle. A lot of things have gone wrong, but we both can say this much... Boris is a human being and shit can get on top of people. How often do you get stressed in your job? Now quadruple that or more for being the leader of a country. Not a popular opinion, but people always arrogantly suggest they could do better or that he’s an idiot and they completely forget that not only is the pandemic being a thing, but he’s also trying to run the country at the same time. Half the country is a huge overstatement. Maybe if he would have turned up for 1 of the meetings,he may have been better informed. " But you don’t know details of why... and you don’t know what else he is dealing with. This is my point, maybe half is an overstatement but shit, I would go to the shop and on the way, see a ton of people in groups hanging out all the time. Far too many people making stupid errors. You know, the fact is, the government isn’t spreading this virus... the public is. And we have been plenty informed and guided. There’s zero excuse. But hey, politics eh! Haha. It’s not something I would get into an argument over. I just think people expect one man to fix it all and that’s absolute insanity. | |||
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".... a politician that some members of the public like to use as sport but have NO intelligent, factual debate what so ever. Vote Labour ! I do. " Ew current labour ? Jeez. Hehe. I’m kidding, I’m kidding.... | |||
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"Prime Minister, faced with an almost unique worldwide situation. He is forced to handle the pandemic "off the cuff" not always perfect every time but there are no course notes and no crib sheets to this one!" Must admit I agree with this! I’m not a fan of his but he’s faced daily with almost impossible decisions that cut either swathes of the economy or people’s social freedoms. Whilst I thing he’s made some mistakes I wouldn’t have his job for anything right now - and I doubt most others would either! | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. This^. And a sex god! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Don't tell me he has never made you moist ![]() | |||
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"... person I feel bad for in many ways. A ton of stuff to deal with. And we all say we know better but truth is, no one knows how to properly deal with what’s been thrown at the world. When half your country ignores your statements about social distancing etc, you’re fighting an uphill battle. A lot of things have gone wrong, but we both can say this much... Boris is a human being and shit can get on top of people. How often do you get stressed in your job? Now quadruple that or more for being the leader of a country. Not a popular opinion, but people always arrogantly suggest they could do better or that he’s an idiot and they completely forget that not only is the pandemic being a thing, but he’s also trying to run the country at the same time. ![]() ![]() Did you ever watch 'Have I got news for you'? Boris was pretty good at dishing it out..... It's a bit of a stretch to call these posts 'abuse'. ![]() | |||
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".... a politician that some members of the public like to use as sport but have NO intelligent, factual debate what so ever. Vote Labour ! I do. Ew current labour ? Jeez. Hehe. I’m kidding, I’m kidding...." You know ...... I'm not getting good vibes from ole Kier like I did at the start..... I am watching their space ![]() | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy." I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. | |||
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"Prime Minister, faced with an almost unique worldwide situation. He is forced to handle the pandemic "off the cuff" not always perfect every time but there are no course notes and no crib sheets to this one!" If there was he wouldn’t be able to follow them , because he’s also a thick cunt with a marshmallow for a brain | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. " ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently" Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job | |||
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"... person I feel bad for in many ways. A ton of stuff to deal with. And we all say we know better but truth is, no one knows how to properly deal with what’s been thrown at the world. When half your country ignores your statements about social distancing etc, you’re fighting an uphill battle. A lot of things have gone wrong, but we both can say this much... Boris is a human being and shit can get on top of people. How often do you get stressed in your job? Now quadruple that or more for being the leader of a country. Not a popular opinion, but people always arrogantly suggest they could do better or that he’s an idiot and they completely forget that not only is the pandemic being a thing, but he’s also trying to run the country at the same time. Half the country is a huge overstatement. Maybe if he would have turned up for 1 of the meetings,he may have been better informed. But you don’t know details of why... and you don’t know what else he is dealing with. This is my point, maybe half is an overstatement but shit, I would go to the shop and on the way, see a ton of people in groups hanging out all the time. Far too many people making stupid errors. You know, the fact is, the government isn’t spreading this virus... the public is. And we have been plenty informed and guided. There’s zero excuse. But hey, politics eh! Haha. It’s not something I would get into an argument over. I just think people expect one man to fix it all and that’s absolute insanity." We dont. He has got advisors,scientists,colleagues,spin doctors etc etc. I dont feel sorry for him in the slightest.He wanted to be pm and it's a difficult situation but so was ww2,so was northern Ireland;so was iraq and Afghanistan,so was the financial crash If you are going to be a great leader you deal with it. He hasn't whatsoever.He has been a car crash. Other leaders have been far more inspirational. | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. This^. And a sex god! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You already know my opinion ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job" I'm not so sure that we can compare different countries, there are far too many factors to consider. It's not just Boris didn't do as well as Jacinda. They have very different circumstances to operate under. | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently" Better is debatable. Different, many people would have done things a lot different. As pointed out above New Zealand did things very differently. Short term they did them much better than Boris did too. Long term the results of their different way of doing things will remain to be seen. Regardless the way things Boris did them are certainly in line with his character and track record with things. | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job" Two very different cultures in respect of size, population, international travel to name a few - not exactly a like for like | |||
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"Far better option than Corbyn & Abbott " Completely irrelevant | |||
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"An anagram of Josh Robinson" Tommy's brother maybe? | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Better is debatable. Different, many people would have done things a lot different. As pointed out above New Zealand did things very differently. Short term they did them much better than Boris did too. Long term the results of their different way of doing things will remain to be seen. Regardless the way things Boris did them are certainly in line with his character and track record with things." Out of the selection of individuals we had to pick from, not other countries. I don’t give a crap about other countries just our own. Even with the politicians stating what we should and shouldn’t be doing, to many are ignoring it... that is where the problem lies. | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Better is debatable. Different, many people would have done things a lot different. As pointed out above New Zealand did things very differently. Short term they did them much better than Boris did too. Long term the results of their different way of doing things will remain to be seen. Regardless the way things Boris did them are certainly in line with his character and track record with things." Agreed. Could I do a better job than BoJo? Don't know. I recognise my limitations and have not attempted to become a politician. Would anyone have performed as badly as BoJo? Demonstrably no. We're among the worst performers in the first world. (Yes Trump is worse, but that's like saying I can beat a five year old in a race) | |||
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"Far better option than Corbyn & Abbott Completely irrelevant " More relevant than New Zealand’s PM being bought into the discussion | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy...." Who chose to do it. | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy...." Just as May was for Brexit.... | |||
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"Far better option than Corbyn & Abbott Completely irrelevant " No it's not .... if Labour put up better candidates, they may have won the election.... people voted for Johnson because it was better than having Corbyn & Abbott running the show, not because he was the best one for the job, just he was the best of the options that were on offer | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it." I know, who in their right mind has designs on being a prime minister in such times ![]() ![]() | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Just as May was for Brexit.... " A Twit.. with a sinister and selfish agenda | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it." No one chooses for their country to go through a worldwide pandemic and lead it out the other side.... if they did we’d be seeing calls for votes of no confidence and others willing to step up and take the reins. He opted to lead the country through normally day to day activities, plus Brexit (which is still going on) | |||
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"Far better option than Corbyn & Abbott Completely irrelevant More relevant than New Zealand’s PM being bought into the discussion " Not really. They are both leaders and their leadership skills were being compared. | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. " Real leaders thrive on these situations...that's primarily how they go down in history and get remembered as a great leader rather than a name on a list. Unfortunately almost every leader in the world has faired better and Johnson will be grouped with Trump and the brazilian guy in history as a lying leader that didn't care causing countless unnecessay deaths. Sympathy or not for his dilemma he's monumentally fucked it up at every turn. | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it." Exactly,this is the job he felt he was totally capable of doing!! I don't feel sorry for him for the choice HE made. | |||
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"Far better option than Corbyn & Abbott Completely irrelevant No it's not .... if Labour put up better candidates, they may have won the election.... people voted for Johnson because it was better than having Corbyn & Abbott running the show, not because he was the best one for the job, just he was the best of the options that were on offer " That's a completely different point. Bj is running the country now and if the best defence of him is..at least it's not Corbyn.. its more than a bit desperate. | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it. No one chooses for their country to go through a worldwide pandemic and lead it out the other side.... if they did we’d be seeing calls for votes of no confidence and others willing to step up and take the reins. He opted to lead the country through normally day to day activities, plus Brexit (which is still going on) " He chose to apply to become Prime Minister. With that choice comes responsibility. You take the good with the bad. It's not like an extraordinarily wealthy man, educated at Eton no less, has no other choices in life. You want to be Prime Minister, you get to take responsibility for being Prime Minister. He's the last person I'll feel sorry for. | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. Real leaders thrive on these situations...that's primarily how they go down in history and get remembered as a great leader rather than a name on a list. Unfortunately almost every leader in the world has faired better and Johnson will be grouped with Trump and the brazilian guy in history as a lying leader that didn't care causing countless unnecessay deaths. Sympathy or not for his dilemma he's monumentally fucked it up at every turn." Nail head etc | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it. No one chooses for their country to go through a worldwide pandemic and lead it out the other side.... if they did we’d be seeing calls for votes of no confidence and others willing to step up and take the reins. He opted to lead the country through normally day to day activities, plus Brexit (which is still going on) " Maybe when he won the election he should have said..if we have a really tough situation I'm out? | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it. Exactly,this is the job he felt he was totally capable of doing!! I don't feel sorry for him for the choice HE made." Here here! The guy is a populist bellend and this entire situation, compounded by a no deal Brexit, is entirely his own making | |||
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"Far better option than Corbyn & Abbott Completely irrelevant No it's not .... if Labour put up better candidates, they may have won the election.... people voted for Johnson because it was better than having Corbyn & Abbott running the show, not because he was the best one for the job, just he was the best of the options that were on offer That's a completely different point. Bj is running the country now and if the best defence of him is..at least it's not Corbyn.. its more than a bit desperate. " How is it a different point??? the point is.... if Johnson was not the prime minister right now.... it would have been Corbyn, and his sidekick Abbottt who would be sorting this out | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it. No one chooses for their country to go through a worldwide pandemic and lead it out the other side.... if they did we’d be seeing calls for votes of no confidence and others willing to step up and take the reins. He opted to lead the country through normally day to day activities, plus Brexit (which is still going on) Maybe when he won the election he should have said..if we have a really tough situation I'm out?" Why should he ? | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it. No one chooses for their country to go through a worldwide pandemic and lead it out the other side.... if they did we’d be seeing calls for votes of no confidence and others willing to step up and take the reins. He opted to lead the country through normally day to day activities, plus Brexit (which is still going on) He chose to apply to become Prime Minister. With that choice comes responsibility. You take the good with the bad. It's not like an extraordinarily wealthy man, educated at Eton no less, has no other choices in life. You want to be Prime Minister, you get to take responsibility for being Prime Minister. He's the last person I'll feel sorry for." And he is taking responsibility... as the original poster in this chain said... in doing so he is becoming the whipping boy, he could quite easily walked away when he got ill but he hasn’t | |||
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"Far better option than Corbyn & Abbott Completely irrelevant No it's not .... if Labour put up better candidates, they may have won the election.... people voted for Johnson because it was better than having Corbyn & Abbott running the show, not because he was the best one for the job, just he was the best of the options that were on offer That's a completely different point. Bj is running the country now and if the best defence of him is..at least it's not Corbyn.. its more than a bit desperate. How is it a different point??? the point is.... if Johnson was not the prime minister right now.... it would have been Corbyn, and his sidekick Abbottt who would be sorting this out" Well they aren't. This discussion is about Johnson and speculating about how anyone else would have handled it is completely irrelevant. | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it. No one chooses for their country to go through a worldwide pandemic and lead it out the other side.... if they did we’d be seeing calls for votes of no confidence and others willing to step up and take the reins. He opted to lead the country through normally day to day activities, plus Brexit (which is still going on) He chose to apply to become Prime Minister. With that choice comes responsibility. You take the good with the bad. It's not like an extraordinarily wealthy man, educated at Eton no less, has no other choices in life. You want to be Prime Minister, you get to take responsibility for being Prime Minister. He's the last person I'll feel sorry for. And he is taking responsibility... as the original poster in this chain said... in doing so he is becoming the whipping boy, he could quite easily walked away when he got ill but he hasn’t " The messaging is blaming the public and inconsistent. He's hiding figures if not lying. He's stepped back from briefings. They're spreading this idea that Europe will cause a second wave rather than our own incompetence and selfishness. He wants the power and glory without the work or repercussions. | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it. No one chooses for their country to go through a worldwide pandemic and lead it out the other side.... if they did we’d be seeing calls for votes of no confidence and others willing to step up and take the reins. He opted to lead the country through normally day to day activities, plus Brexit (which is still going on) Maybe when he won the election he should have said..if we have a really tough situation I'm out? Why should he ? " Because people are saying he has been forced into handling this situation . He is the pm..its his job. | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it. No one chooses for their country to go through a worldwide pandemic and lead it out the other side.... if they did we’d be seeing calls for votes of no confidence and others willing to step up and take the reins. He opted to lead the country through normally day to day activities, plus Brexit (which is still going on) He chose to apply to become Prime Minister. With that choice comes responsibility. You take the good with the bad. It's not like an extraordinarily wealthy man, educated at Eton no less, has no other choices in life. You want to be Prime Minister, you get to take responsibility for being Prime Minister. He's the last person I'll feel sorry for. And he is taking responsibility... as the original poster in this chain said... in doing so he is becoming the whipping boy, he could quite easily walked away when he got ill but he hasn’t " Taking responsibility .like when he missed 4 cobra meetings? Or when he made the wheezing gag,? Or when he decided he would take ownership of the situation 3 months into the pandemic? | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it. No one chooses for their country to go through a worldwide pandemic and lead it out the other side.... if they did we’d be seeing calls for votes of no confidence and others willing to step up and take the reins. He opted to lead the country through normally day to day activities, plus Brexit (which is still going on) He chose to apply to become Prime Minister. With that choice comes responsibility. You take the good with the bad. It's not like an extraordinarily wealthy man, educated at Eton no less, has no other choices in life. You want to be Prime Minister, you get to take responsibility for being Prime Minister. He's the last person I'll feel sorry for. And he is taking responsibility... as the original poster in this chain said... in doing so he is becoming the whipping boy, he could quite easily walked away when he got ill but he hasn’t The messaging is blaming the public and inconsistent. He's hiding figures if not lying. He's stepped back from briefings. They're spreading this idea that Europe will cause a second wave rather than our own incompetence and selfishness. He wants the power and glory without the work or repercussions." The messaging should be blaming the public for the continued spread, because a lot of them can’t think for themselves, even when something is clear as day in black and white they ignore it Each country will be responsible for its second wave and third, W aren’t attached to mainland Europe so let they borders open and allow free movement f they wish. People are moaning here because they now can’t go to Spain, personally the borders should be closed and as an island we ride it out. But that won’t happen because this country moans about having to wear a mask let alone any other restrictions He might be the leader the country voted in but it is about time individuals stopped being sheep and took some personal responsibility for their daily lives | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it. No one chooses for their country to go through a worldwide pandemic and lead it out the other side.... if they did we’d be seeing calls for votes of no confidence and others willing to step up and take the reins. He opted to lead the country through normally day to day activities, plus Brexit (which is still going on) He chose to apply to become Prime Minister. With that choice comes responsibility. You take the good with the bad. It's not like an extraordinarily wealthy man, educated at Eton no less, has no other choices in life. You want to be Prime Minister, you get to take responsibility for being Prime Minister. He's the last person I'll feel sorry for. And he is taking responsibility... as the original poster in this chain said... in doing so he is becoming the whipping boy, he could quite easily walked away when he got ill but he hasn’t " When exactly did he take responsibility? When was that statement released where he said he was 'taking direct responsibility' for the virus response? Because before that he was on holiday for a week and a half in February and then didn't go to 5 COBRA meetings. Let's not forget, he went round shaking hands with infected patients, bragged about it and hot the virus. Now, if he had such little regard for his own health, he clearly had fuck all regard for the nation's. | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job" Cant compere a country with a tiny spread out population to this crowded island. | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job Cant compere a country with a tiny spread out population to this crowded island. " We can compare the actions taken and how they have led. | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it. No one chooses for their country to go through a worldwide pandemic and lead it out the other side.... if they did we’d be seeing calls for votes of no confidence and others willing to step up and take the reins. He opted to lead the country through normally day to day activities, plus Brexit (which is still going on) He chose to apply to become Prime Minister. With that choice comes responsibility. You take the good with the bad. It's not like an extraordinarily wealthy man, educated at Eton no less, has no other choices in life. You want to be Prime Minister, you get to take responsibility for being Prime Minister. He's the last person I'll feel sorry for. And he is taking responsibility... as the original poster in this chain said... in doing so he is becoming the whipping boy, he could quite easily walked away when he got ill but he hasn’t The messaging is blaming the public and inconsistent. He's hiding figures if not lying. He's stepped back from briefings. They're spreading this idea that Europe will cause a second wave rather than our own incompetence and selfishness. He wants the power and glory without the work or repercussions. The messaging should be blaming the public for the continued spread, because a lot of them can’t think for themselves, even when something is clear as day in black and white they ignore it Each country will be responsible for its second wave and third, W aren’t attached to mainland Europe so let they borders open and allow free movement f they wish. People are moaning here because they now can’t go to Spain, personally the borders should be closed and as an island we ride it out. But that won’t happen because this country moans about having to wear a mask let alone any other restrictions He might be the leader the country voted in but it is about time individuals stopped being sheep and took some personal responsibility for their daily lives Responsibility goes both ways. The government play a role in this, with the high levels of confusion that continue to exist. All I can do is mitigate my role in disease transmission. I'm not helping the economy because I'm too scared to go out, but I'm more worried about my community." What confusion still exists ? Why worry about your community, if you are not going out you are not adding to the problem. Even if you are going out for food, exercise and like, as long as you are hand sanitising, masking up, keeping your required distance, what are you doing to your community ? | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job Cant compere a country with a tiny spread out population to this crowded island. " But you can compare competence,attitude and leadership skills.... | |||
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"On each of the top 4 attributes of Kouzes and Posner’s research into the attributes of admirable leaders. 1. Honesty 2. Forward looking 3. Inspiring 4. Competent which would BoJo score well on in a performance review?" None of the uk PMs in my lifetime would score on those... they all lie | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it. No one chooses for their country to go through a worldwide pandemic and lead it out the other side.... if they did we’d be seeing calls for votes of no confidence and others willing to step up and take the reins. He opted to lead the country through normally day to day activities, plus Brexit (which is still going on) He chose to apply to become Prime Minister. With that choice comes responsibility. You take the good with the bad. It's not like an extraordinarily wealthy man, educated at Eton no less, has no other choices in life. You want to be Prime Minister, you get to take responsibility for being Prime Minister. He's the last person I'll feel sorry for. And he is taking responsibility... as the original poster in this chain said... in doing so he is becoming the whipping boy, he could quite easily walked away when he got ill but he hasn’t The messaging is blaming the public and inconsistent. He's hiding figures if not lying. He's stepped back from briefings. They're spreading this idea that Europe will cause a second wave rather than our own incompetence and selfishness. He wants the power and glory without the work or repercussions. The messaging should be blaming the public for the continued spread, because a lot of them can’t think for themselves, even when something is clear as day in black and white they ignore it Each country will be responsible for its second wave and third, W aren’t attached to mainland Europe so let they borders open and allow free movement f they wish. People are moaning here because they now can’t go to Spain, personally the borders should be closed and as an island we ride it out. But that won’t happen because this country moans about having to wear a mask let alone any other restrictions He might be the leader the country voted in but it is about time individuals stopped being sheep and took some personal responsibility for their daily lives Responsibility goes both ways. The government play a role in this, with the high levels of confusion that continue to exist. All I can do is mitigate my role in disease transmission. I'm not helping the economy because I'm too scared to go out, but I'm more worried about my community. What confusion still exists ? Why worry about your community, if you are not going out you are not adding to the problem. Even if you are going out for food, exercise and like, as long as you are hand sanitising, masking up, keeping your required distance, what are you doing to your community ? " Masks (appropriate donning and doffing, cover your nose too). What distancing is required. The seriousness of the disease. Whether it's safe to go back to work. Enforcement. The legitimacy of additional lockdowns. Symptoms to watch for. Asymptomatic spread. Etc If I were Typhoid Mary and it were only me spreading I wouldn't be worried. Unfortunately other people have or have had it. | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job Cant compere a country with a tiny spread out population to this crowded island. But you can compare competence,attitude and leadership skills...." The electorate are certainly a different bread in the UK and certainly aren't following directions? Leadership is seen as authoritarian by many here when compared to other countries. | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job Cant compere a country with a tiny spread out population to this crowded island. But you can compare competence,attitude and leadership skills.... The electorate are certainly a different bread in the UK and certainly aren't following directions? Leadership is seen as authoritarian by many here when compared to other countries. " And couldn't it be done differently. Quite easily. This is hard, but let's all do our bit. Anyone can spread this. Anyone can get really ill. If we all lock down hard for awhile then we'll have our lives back sooner and hopefully Granny will survive. | |||
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"....Fall guy, lamb to the slaughter, whipping boy.... Who chose to do it. No one chooses for their country to go through a worldwide pandemic and lead it out the other side.... if they did we’d be seeing calls for votes of no confidence and others willing to step up and take the reins. He opted to lead the country through normally day to day activities, plus Brexit (which is still going on) He chose to apply to become Prime Minister. With that choice comes responsibility. You take the good with the bad. It's not like an extraordinarily wealthy man, educated at Eton no less, has no other choices in life. You want to be Prime Minister, you get to take responsibility for being Prime Minister. He's the last person I'll feel sorry for. And he is taking responsibility... as the original poster in this chain said... in doing so he is becoming the whipping boy, he could quite easily walked away when he got ill but he hasn’t The messaging is blaming the public and inconsistent. He's hiding figures if not lying. He's stepped back from briefings. They're spreading this idea that Europe will cause a second wave rather than our own incompetence and selfishness. He wants the power and glory without the work or repercussions. The messaging should be blaming the public for the continued spread, because a lot of them can’t think for themselves, even when something is clear as day in black and white they ignore it Each country will be responsible for its second wave and third, W aren’t attached to mainland Europe so let they borders open and allow free movement f they wish. People are moaning here because they now can’t go to Spain, personally the borders should be closed and as an island we ride it out. But that won’t happen because this country moans about having to wear a mask let alone any other restrictions He might be the leader the country voted in but it is about time individuals stopped being sheep and took some personal responsibility for their daily lives Responsibility goes both ways. The government play a role in this, with the high levels of confusion that continue to exist. All I can do is mitigate my role in disease transmission. I'm not helping the economy because I'm too scared to go out, but I'm more worried about my community. What confusion still exists ? Why worry about your community, if you are not going out you are not adding to the problem. Even if you are going out for food, exercise and like, as long as you are hand sanitising, masking up, keeping your required distance, what are you doing to your community ? Masks (appropriate donning and doffing, cover your nose too). What distancing is required. The seriousness of the disease. Whether it's safe to go back to work. Enforcement. The legitimacy of additional lockdowns. Symptoms to watch for. Asymptomatic spread. Etc If I were Typhoid Mary and it were only me spreading I wouldn't be worried. Unfortunately other people have or have had it." As more is learnt about the virus all off those things are going to continually change and adapt. Comes back to personal responsibility, just because the government says you don’t have to wear a mask here but you do there, you have the choice to don it even where they say you don’t have to. Additional lockdowns, why not, if it is rising in that area, lock it down... get used to it ever changing as it’s going to be like this a long time | |||
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"On each of the top 4 attributes of Kouzes and Posner’s research into the attributes of admirable leaders. 1. Honesty 2. Forward looking 3. Inspiring 4. Competent which would BoJo score well on in a performance review? None of the uk PMs in my lifetime would score on those... they all lie " What about the other three attributes? Also isn’t it about time we had leaders with more integrity, particularly when we are navigating some of the biggest challenges our planet has faced? | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job Two very different cultures in respect of size, population, international travel to name a few - not exactly a like for like " You wrote " and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently" I gave an example of someone who did a great job. Now you're moving the goal posts.lol It's highly likely that many people could have done a better job than Boris. | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job Two very different cultures in respect of size, population, international travel to name a few - not exactly a like for like You wrote " and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently" I gave an example of someone who did a great job. Now you're moving the goal posts.lol It's highly likely that many people could have done a better job than Boris. " Not at all as we are talking about our country, the New Zealand PM wouldn’t be our PM... no goal posts moved | |||
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"On each of the top 4 attributes of Kouzes and Posner’s research into the attributes of admirable leaders. 1. Honesty 2. Forward looking 3. Inspiring 4. Competent which would BoJo score well on in a performance review? None of the uk PMs in my lifetime would score on those... they all lie What about the other three attributes? Also isn’t it about time we had leaders with more integrity, particularly when we are navigating some of the biggest challenges our planet has faced?" The other three attributes I wouldn’t say any of them have had either. It would be a lovely place if politicians had integrity... good luck finding one | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job Two very different cultures in respect of size, population, international travel to name a few - not exactly a like for like You wrote " and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently" I gave an example of someone who did a great job. Now you're moving the goal posts.lol It's highly likely that many people could have done a better job than Boris. " I wasn’t surprised to see that the countries that have handled the Pandemic best are led by women with a very different frame of reference to the men who have led the worst performing nations’ efforts. | |||
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"Who decided that we could only talk about Brits? Lol ![]() I don't see that defined anywhere in the thread. The thread is about finishing a sentence.... ![]() | |||
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"Prime Minister, faced with an almost unique worldwide situation. He is forced to handle the pandemic "off the cuff" not always perfect every time but there are no course notes and no crib sheets to this one! If there was he wouldn’t be able to follow them , because he’s also a thick cunt with a marshmallow for a brain " This is a silly response lol | |||
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"Who decided that we could only talk about Brits? Lol ![]() ![]() Exactly - without it being defined that you can only compare him to British people lol - I'll leave you to it ![]() | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job Two very different cultures in respect of size, population, international travel to name a few - not exactly a like for like " Yes - NZ has the population of London and isn’t a major international finance centre. I know everyone thinks she luvvly and PC but a better comparison for her might be the local brownies leader | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job Two very different cultures in respect of size, population, international travel to name a few - not exactly a like for like Yes - NZ has the population of London and isn’t a major international finance centre. I know everyone thinks she luvvly and PC but a better comparison for her might be the local brownies leader " Compated to a bumbling fool making inappropriate jokes whilst we have one of the worst death rates in Europe, Throwing stones and glass houses. | |||
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"Man whose position I don't envy. I’m going to agree with this one. Love him or hate him, this situation is unprecedented, and I can’t imagine having to lead a country through this. ^ and I doubt anyone would have done any better or things differently Jacinda Arden - the PM of New Zealand did a pretty good job Two very different cultures in respect of size, population, international travel to name a few - not exactly a like for like Yes - NZ has the population of London and isn’t a major international finance centre. I know everyone thinks she luvvly and PC but a better comparison for her might be the local brownies leader " NZ isn't the only country has done much better than the UK. Our record is much worse than most Western countries. It was obvious from the start what would happen here. There is no excuse. This government has performed abysmally. | |||
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