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"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver." Exactly! That boy stands on far too high a pedestal and it’s a long way to fall | |||
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"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver." | |||
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"Think we all would like to see the ultimate battle of Hamilton and Vestappen in the same car in the wet but sadly will never happen but think maybe a couple are as gifted as him in F1 but all down the machinery unfortunately. Don’t get me wrong he is a true racer and bloody quick but no better than Alonso or Max. Love to hear other people’s opinions on this so thanks op "Is this the same Max that managed to crash for absolutely no reason earlier today? Really  | |||
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"To make F1 more exciting, they should put all the drivers names in a hat and all the cars. Draw 1 driver out then the car next, so much better and not just the wondering which Merc driver is going to win each race. " Or simply switch of drivers aids, then see how good they really are | |||
"Think we all would like to see the ultimate battle of Hamilton and Vestappen in the same car in the wet but sadly will never happen but think maybe a couple are as gifted as him in F1 but all down the machinery unfortunately. Don’t get me wrong he is a true racer and bloody quick but no better than Alonso or Max. Love to hear other people’s opinions on this so thanks op
Is this the same Max that managed to crash for absolutely no reason earlier today?
Really "Fair point and he did look a bit daft before the race but you can’t deny his true speed and skill in the overall picture of racing and his talent is obvious. | |||
"To make F1 more exciting, they should put all the drivers names in a hat and all the cars. Draw 1 driver out then the car next, so much better and not just the wondering which Merc driver is going to win each race. " I used to race but when u comoeat against teams that have a big budget or allways on the back foot , I agree and it would make the sport more fun to watch | |||
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 ) but, his ability cannot be denied! There are probably only two or three who could challenge him if they were in equal cars in my opinion, and even they would probably lose still.
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"To make F1 more exciting, they should put all the drivers names in a hat and all the cars. Draw 1 driver out then the car next, so much better and not just the wondering which Merc driver is going to win each race. Or simply switch of drivers aids, then see how good they really are" There have been no driver aids in F1 for over a decade. Learn what you're talking about before you speak. | |||
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"He's always managed to best his team mates which is the best measure (takes care out of the equation) inc. Button and Alonso. The car clearly makes life easy for him. But his consistency, low error rate, ability in the wet, and wheel to wheel racing against compatible drivers in close performing cars shows his skill. You can never really compare drivers from eras and cars. But he is up there with Micheal, Alonso, Prost, Senna. Better than his peers, Button, Kimi, Rosberg, Bottas, Vettel. Time will tell for Max. He's certainly got the potential to be as good, but he needs more time and the car to really prove that last 1%."
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"He's always managed to best his team mates which is the best measure (takes care out of the equation) inc. Button and Alonso. The car clearly makes life easy for him. But his consistency, low error rate, ability in the wet, and wheel to wheel racing against compatible drivers in close performing cars shows his skill. You can never really compare drivers from eras and cars. But he is up there with Micheal, Alonso, Prost, Senna. Better than his peers, Button, Kimi, Rosberg, Bottas, Vettel. Time will tell for Max. He's certainly got the potential to be as good, but he needs more time and the car to really prove that last 1%." Can't argue with that. I just don't enjoy the era as much as the old days. | |||
"The best driver since the German and is already one of the sport's greats regardless of the fact that he drives the best car. Footballers tend to gravitate to the best teams so why not F1 drivers I do wish he'd cut the tax exile crap and live and pay taxes in the UK though " He doesn't live there and isn't employed by a UK company af far as I know... why would he pay his taxes there? | |||
"He's always managed to best his team mates which is the best measure (takes care out of the equation) inc. Button and Alonso. The car clearly makes life easy for him. But his consistency, low error rate, ability in the wet, and wheel to wheel racing against compatible drivers in close performing cars shows his skill. You can never really compare drivers from eras and cars. But he is up there with Micheal, Alonso, Prost, Senna. Better than his peers, Button, Kimi, Rosberg, Bottas, Vettel. Time will tell for Max. He's certainly got the potential to be as good, but he needs more time and the car to really prove that last 1%." Button outscored Hamilton during his tenure at McLaren...despite joining Hamilton's team Rosberg beat Hamilton to the the WDC whilst both if then where at Mercedes And Alonso was robbed by McLaren to the wdc after Ron's golden boy showed early on how good he was. Let's not forget wether Ron knew out not that was also they year if spygate. The only true teammates Hamilton has dominated was kovalainen and Bottas. Heikki because he was still green And Bottas because well hes a no 2 driver and Hamilton is using not just his superior skill but also wisdom to beat him. Kubica pre rally crash and Hamilton would have been a fire combo.. And I think robert would have exposed Hamilton...he did in the junior categories | |||
"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver." | |||
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"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver." with is exactly what TopGear did put him in the reasonably priced car and sent him out for a hot lap now go watch that video on the in car hes calm composed driving like you and me going to the shops giving commentary just tootling along without a care . during that lap he beat every other profesional driver who had attempted it then you realise it was wet ! his skill levels are up there with the best of that there is no doubt | |||
"He doesn’t just get in the car and drive it. He has a hand in helping the team create the car too so he’s helped pull Mercedes to where they are. There is a lot of stuff behind the scenes that drivers do that we don’t get to see as punters. He is consistently good in all weathers and even when Ferrari had the better car with a multiple world champion as No 1, he managed to get wins and positions that gave him a shot at the championship. As someone else has said, no one says ‘that Messi is good but chuck him in at Salford City and see how good he is then’" Well said, it's a British disease knocking success and listening to some of the nonsense said about them. Given the commercial imperative in F1, Mercedes wouldnt risk a mediocre driver in their cars. Hamilton may not be the best driver the world has ever seen, but he's certainly at/near the top of the Premier division of the current drivers. | |||
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"He's always managed to best his team mates which is the best measure (takes care out of the equation) inc. Button and Alonso. The car clearly makes life easy for him. But his consistency, low error rate, ability in the wet, and wheel to wheel racing against compatible drivers in close performing cars shows his skill. You can never really compare drivers from eras and cars. But he is up there with Micheal, Alonso, Prost, Senna. Better than his peers, Button, Kimi, Rosberg, Bottas, Vettel. Time will tell for Max. He's certainly got the potential to be as good, but he needs more time and the car to really prove that last 1%. Button outscored Hamilton during his tenure at McLaren...despite joining Hamilton's team Rosberg beat Hamilton to the the WDC whilst both if then where at Mercedes And Alonso was robbed by McLaren to the wdc after Ron's golden boy showed early on how good he was. Let's not forget wether Ron knew out not that was also they year if spygate. The only true teammates Hamilton has dominated was kovalainen and Bottas. Heikki because he was still green And Bottas because well hes a no 2 driver and Hamilton is using not just his superior skill but also wisdom to beat him. Kubica pre rally crash and Hamilton would have been a fire combo.. And I think robert would have exposed Hamilton...he did in the junior categories" I cannot remember the specifics now but if you compare points for races where both cars finished (reliability factor) I think Hamilton beat Button. The Alonso thing was a debacle agreed, although Alonso probably didn't help himself either as he seems to piss off everyone everywhere. Rosberg only won due to Hamilton's engine blow up in Malaysia. He was quick enough to make Hamilton work, and a very consistent driver, but not as quick. Kov has no competition really. I would have loved to have seen Kubica at his full potential! Him, Vettel, Hamilton, and Alonso racing in competitive cars would have been a dream (Kimi and Button too perhaps). Such a shame about the rally crash. Good point about the behind the scenes work Hamilton does too, he clearly galvanises his team which isn't to be underestimated. We've seen what happens when drivers don't work effectively with the team (Alonso, Vettel, Rosberg, teams with two rookies). He seems to share that trait with Micheal and the team he helped build at Ferrari. Hamilton, Toto, and Lauda seemed to click like Micheal, Brawn and Todt and built amazing teams. Micheal left Bennetton to do it, Lewis left McLaren. They both market well for sponsorship too. | |||
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"Of course no driver will ever be as great as crashdor Maldonado!" taki inoue??? | |||
"He's always managed to best his team mates which is the best measure (takes care out of the equation) inc. Button and Alonso. The car clearly makes life easy for him. But his consistency, low error rate, ability in the wet, and wheel to wheel racing against compatible drivers in close performing cars shows his skill. You can never really compare drivers from eras and cars. But he is up there with Micheal, Alonso, Prost, Senna. Better than his peers, Button, Kimi, Rosberg, Bottas, Vettel. Time will tell for Max. He's certainly got the potential to be as good, but he needs more time and the car to really prove that last 1%. Button outscored Hamilton during his tenure at McLaren...despite joining Hamilton's team Rosberg beat Hamilton to the the WDC whilst both if then where at Mercedes And Alonso was robbed by McLaren to the wdc after Ron's golden boy showed early on how good he was. Let's not forget wether Ron knew out not that was also they year if spygate. The only true teammates Hamilton has dominated was kovalainen and Bottas. Heikki because he was still green And Bottas because well hes a no 2 driver and Hamilton is using not just his superior skill but also wisdom to beat him. Kubica pre rally crash and Hamilton would have been a fire combo.. And I think robert would have exposed Hamilton...he did in the junior categories I cannot remember the specifics now but if you compare points for races where both cars finished (reliability factor) I think Hamilton beat Button. The Alonso thing was a debacle agreed, although Alonso probably didn't help himself either as he seems to piss off everyone everywhere. Rosberg only won due to Hamilton's engine blow up in Malaysia. He was quick enough to make Hamilton work, and a very consistent driver, but not as quick. Kov has no competition really. I would have loved to have seen Kubica at his full potential! Him, Vettel, Hamilton, and Alonso racing in competitive cars would have been a dream (Kimi and Button too perhaps). Such a shame about the rally crash. Good point about the behind the scenes work Hamilton does too, he clearly galvanises his team which isn't to be underestimated. We've seen what happens when drivers don't work effectively with the team (Alonso, Vettel, Rosberg, teams with two rookies). He seems to share that trait with Micheal and the team he helped build at Ferrari. Hamilton, Toto, and Lauda seemed to click like Micheal, Brawn and Todt and built amazing teams. Micheal left Bennetton to do it, Lewis left McLaren. They both market well for sponsorship too." To win a race...first you must finish a race. I dont go in for changing actual records for hypotheticals In that case Kimi should have 2 titles with McLaren when neweys cars constantly broke. You could even make the argument Heinz harald frentzen with Jordan lost the 1999 WDC on reliability I'd say Rosberg has been the only match for Hamilton and his career wasnt the silver spoon Hamiltons was. Starting will William's and being in the mid field for a long time. Even if lewis constantly makes out Rosberg was a just a rich kid. I think it took all of Rosberg's skill and most of mental fortitude to beat lewis. And he openly admitted it and said I'm done. You are right it takes working as a team to win and Rosberg wasnt prepared to put Mercedes f1 above his family. Lewis puts f1 above everything...you are right he doesn't piss of teams like alonso. But Lewis has broke his relations with his dad/manager and long term gfs. I dont know the man personally. He is easily one of the best ever but even in the comment section here...there just something missing about him. It's like to be a great f1 driver...he has sacrificed part of his human qualities. Even Vettel a German.. has more of a sense of humour than Hamilton. | |||
"Not a fan of the sport and knew little of him but using his profile to raise awareness of BLM has seen me develop a huge amount of respect for the guy in recent weeks" I'm sure I'm not the only one to find it ironic that he takes big money to drive for a company that used slave labour in concentration camps under the Nazi regime whilst wearing his 'slave chain' and campaigning for BLM. | |||
"Not a fan of the sport and knew little of him but using his profile to raise awareness of BLM has seen me develop a huge amount of respect for the guy in recent weeks I'm sure I'm not the only one to find it ironic that he takes big money to drive for a company that used slave labour in concentration camps under the Nazi regime whilst wearing his 'slave chain' and campaigning for BLM. " Is it ironic? Or just a weak attempt to highlight a perceived act of hypocrisy to criticise his stance? | |||
"Not a fan of the sport and knew little of him but using his profile to raise awareness of BLM has seen me develop a huge amount of respect for the guy in recent weeks I'm sure I'm not the only one to find it ironic that he takes big money to drive for a company that used slave labour in concentration camps under the Nazi regime whilst wearing his 'slave chain' and campaigning for BLM. Is it ironic? Or just a weak attempt to highlight a perceived act of hypocrisy to criticise his stance? " Let's look at his stance on blm, vegetarianism and climate change. What has Lewis done specifically to change and improve conditions for those from ethnic minorities to come into motorsport. Does he have a junior academy like Alonso Does he stand behind specific campaigns to get ethic minorities into motorsport. No because his social media platforms are about him flogging overpriced Tommy Hilfiger tat. Or telling young children how to eat healthy and green....whilst his every catering whim is answered for by trained Mercedes chefs Or there is the hypocrisy of him telling others about climate change whilst not only being employed by a greenhouse gas producer, racing in a sport that is all about internal combustion. All whilst he (used to) fly around in a private jet which he dodged UK tax on. I've got no problem with him using a platform to promote these important issues...but its the way he goes about doing it. Like trying to shame other drivers for not taking the knee. These are his beliefs which he is entitled too...but the hypocrisy of him trying to force others to confirm to his standard is not lost on me. | |||
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"Exactly, it's the hypocrisy that rubs me up the wrong way. For example, he was unhappy that the drivers weren't in unison, yet wore his own BLM t-shirt not the GPDA one. He is hands down one of the greatest drivers of all time, of that there is no doubt. People saying he only wins in good cars don't know what they are talking about. Senna, Prost, Lauda, hunt, schumacher, Hakkinen etc didn't win in the slower cars. Good drivers get into the best cars. But being a good driver doesn't make you a good bloke. Alonso is a social hand grenade, but he's set up karting foundations and charities, not just preached to others for action while doing nothing. " schumacher = jordan = nuff said .. lewis has never drove for a lower team schumacher learnt his trade in the lower teams | |||
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"The best driver since the German and is already one of the sport's greats regardless of the fact that he drives the best car. Footballers tend to gravitate to the best teams so why not F1 drivers I do wish he'd cut the tax exile crap and live and pay taxes in the UK though He doesn't live there and isn't employed by a UK company af far as I know... why would he pay his taxes there?" I'm aware he doesn't live here and that's my point He likes to take the moral high ground on certain issues - nothing wrong with that - but he resides outside the UK in a low tax jurisdiction to deliberately avoid UK tax. That isn't very moral | |||
"Not a fan of the sport and knew little of him but using his profile to raise awareness of BLM has seen me develop a huge amount of respect for the guy in recent weeks I'm sure I'm not the only one to find it ironic that he takes big money to drive for a company that used slave labour in concentration camps under the Nazi regime whilst wearing his 'slave chain' and campaigning for BLM. Is it ironic? Or just a weak attempt to highlight a perceived act of hypocrisy to criticise his stance? Let's look at his stance on blm, vegetarianism and climate change. What has Lewis done specifically to change and improve conditions for those from ethnic minorities to come into motorsport. Does he have a junior academy like Alonso Does he stand behind specific campaigns to get ethic minorities into motorsport. No because his social media platforms are about him flogging overpriced Tommy Hilfiger tat. Or telling young children how to eat healthy and green....whilst his every catering whim is answered for by trained Mercedes chefs Or there is the hypocrisy of him telling others about climate change whilst not only being employed by a greenhouse gas producer, racing in a sport that is all about internal combustion. All whilst he (used to) fly around in a private jet which he dodged UK tax on. I've got no problem with him using a platform to promote these important issues...but its the way he goes about doing it. Like trying to shame other drivers for not taking the knee. These are his beliefs which he is entitled too...but the hypocrisy of him trying to force others to confirm to his standard is not lost on me." Right you have your opinions i have mine, but lets at least have some facts if you are going to slag him off for doing nothing for charity... Yes, he does. He is a major contributor to Great Ormond Street hospital, Unicef, The Honeypot Children's Charity and Children of Africa. Many times after a race, instead of leaving the country immediately, he will stay and visit children in poor villages (India) and slums on behalf of UNICEF. He has unified all of his giving under the Lewis Hamilton Foundation. The goal of the foundation is to provide grants and donations to help with disabilities, Education/training, the advancement of health or saving of lives, prevention or relief of poverty, and general charitable purposes throughout England. | |||
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"LEWIS HAMILTON .. use to have full respect for him .. but now carnt abide him as hes a full blown racist along with ANTHONY JOSHUA .. both stripping of any titles n throwing out there game . If I told the British white folk only to use white owned shops then I'd be classed as a rasist.. Bring on FURY he needs to knock his big head clean off . " What makes them racist? | |||
"Senna, Prost, Lauda, hunt, schumacher, Hakkinen etc didn't win in the slower cars. " Ahem, actually... great drivers have often won in the lesser car. Prost, Lauda and Senna often won in slower cars. Won in cars that required a particular technique to win. For example, when Keke Rosberg went to McLaren to drive the TAG Porsche car, I knew his style and technique wouldn't work in that car. I didn't, yet Prost took the title in it! Regarding Lewis, yes, he's had a charmed route to F1 thanks to Mercedes, who've backed him all the up through the junior formula, but there is no doubt he's got talent. Is her better than the rest, the GOAT? Difficult... comparing drivers from different eras is a fools errand. If Jimmy Clarke hadn't gone to Hockenheim, if Francois Cevert hadn't gone to Watkins Glen... if Senna hadn't gone to Imola... we'll never know. | |||
" I mean look at Bottas he is just a point scorer for the team, Mercedes aren't interested in him becoming a champion they are happy he is number 2 and does as he is told. " That is the sad reality of F1 though! There is too much at stake for teams to have two drivers battling each other. You need one driver, the number one, to win every race. The other driver, the number two, acts as the tail gunner for the number one, to bring home second place and ensure a one two for the constructors title. On a day where number one is out of the running, they become the understudy and are expected to be good enough to step up, and win. When teams have put two number one drivers together, it always ends badly. (Prost v Senna anybody?) Some drivers even have veto clauses in their contracts to the extent that they can veto a driver choice for the second seat. Not fair, but nobody ever said F1 was fair! | |||
"LEWIS HAMILTON .. use to have full respect for him .. but now carnt abide him as hes a full blown racist along with ANTHONY JOSHUA .. both stripping of any titles n throwing out there game . If I told the British white folk only to use white owned shops then I'd be classed as a rasist.. Bring on FURY he needs to knock his big head clean off . " Is Hamilton a racist ask his mum (she white in case you didn't know) He believes in something a lot of people have been demonstrating about, he has had so called fans turn up at a race in blackface he has had abuse on and off the track. He is in a position to highlight something that F1 did nothing. He has a platform to do this and like any other person in that position he is doing something. Do you have a problem with a black person standing up for racial inequality or would it be better for you if he said nothing so it doesn't upset your delicate sensibilities? | |||
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"Exactly, it's the hypocrisy that rubs me up the wrong way. For example, he was unhappy that the drivers weren't in unison, yet wore his own BLM t-shirt not the GPDA one. He is hands down one of the greatest drivers of all time, of that there is no doubt. People saying he only wins in good cars don't know what they are talking about. Senna, Prost, Lauda, hunt, schumacher, Hakkinen etc didn't win in the slower cars. Good drivers get into the best cars. But being a good driver doesn't make you a good bloke. Alonso is a social hand grenade, but he's set up karting foundations and charities, not just preached to others for action while doing nothing. schumacher = jordan = nuff said .. lewis has never drove for a lower team schumacher learnt his trade in the lower teams " That's not entirely fair, McLaren were on the decline whilst he was with them, also he's never parked a car in a corner at Monaco on the last qualifying lap | |||
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"LEWIS HAMILTON .. use to have full respect for him .. but now carnt abide him as hes a full blown racist along with ANTHONY JOSHUA .. both stripping of any titles n throwing out there game . If I told the British white folk only to use white owned shops then I'd be classed as a rasist.. Bring on FURY he needs to knock his big head clean off . Is Hamilton a racist ask his mum (she white in case you didn't know) He believes in something a lot of people have been demonstrating about, he has had so called fans turn up at a race in blackface he has had abuse on and off the track. He is in a position to highlight something that F1 did nothing. He has a platform to do this and like any other person in that position he is doing something. Do you have a problem with a black person standing up for racial inequality or would it be better for you if he said nothing so it doesn't upset your delicate sensibilities?" | |||
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"Great driver, utter arsehole. " Not much to add to that. | |||
"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver." Its not just the car, its the engineer, team,the driver all in one. | |||
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"I miss the old “Build what you like” days Ferrari’s flat twelve, Cosworth V8’s, Renault’s Turbo. Etc. When they stifled free reign development I started following Group C racing instead, with the Silver Arrows C6/8 & Silk Cut XJR Jags then they did the same to that & lost a number of manufacturers including Mazda with their rotary engine. Now the cost of both car & driver is astronomical anyway they should return to a true innovative open class because atm, they look the same bar paint, sound the same & it’s boring as fck. But then I am a biker & hold the Isle of Man & MotoGP in my heart. & as they say in those circles “Lewis Hamilton, who’s she?”
S"And I miss black and white TV but times have changed. The fact that his name comes up in those circles means that someone knows who HE is | |||
"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver. Its not just the car, its the engineer, team,the driver all in one." Thank you | |||
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"The best driver since the German and is already one of the sport's greats regardless of the fact that he drives the best car. Footballers tend to gravitate to the best teams so why not F1 drivers I do wish he'd cut the tax exile crap and live and pay taxes in the UK though He doesn't live there and isn't employed by a UK company af far as I know... why would he pay his taxes there? I'm aware he doesn't live here and that's my point He likes to take the moral high ground on certain issues - nothing wrong with that - but he resides outside the UK in a low tax jurisdiction to deliberately avoid UK tax. That isn't very moral " Why is it not moral? So you want him to live here just so that he can pay tax? That is his hard earned money and he has the right to choose where he wants to live. Do all the other British celebrities who live and work in Hollywood pay tax in the UK?or maybe just because it Lewis that's why it's immoral | |||
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"I am not the most knowledgeable on F1 but I know that Lewis Hamilton is 2nd on the all time list for most F1 drivers title and 2nd for most wins and 1st for pole positions. In my opinion these are outstanding achievements and he could surpass all of these achievements as he is still a active driver." And he will surpass them all and set new records. People just don't like the fact that he's finally speaking out in a sport where outside of racinv they keep everything very private | |||
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"Those who think Lewis wins because he has the fastest car clearly don't understand what happens in this sport. Most of the comments on here are based on the fact that people dislike him so it has to be the car that makes him win. I bet if Vettel or Max had won the last 3 championships people would be saying there're amazing drivers" I've given a breakdown of Lewis career above in this thread. I dont think comments are from people who dislike him. Your comments clearly come from the basis you do like him. Nothing wrong with that but it is your opinion. Everyone has acknowledged he is a good driver...one of the best. We are saying he has the personality of a bellend...and it rubs people up the wrong way. Vettel did win multiple championship and everyone said he was great maybe even the next Schumacher...but they also said the same things they are saying now. They want competition in f1 not a parade and to be bombarded with lewis lecturing hashtags isn't why I watch f1. I watch f1 for car racing...I listen to activists to understand political beliefs. | |||
"I am not the most knowledgeable on F1 but I know that Lewis Hamilton is 2nd on the all time list for most F1 drivers title and 2nd for most wins and 1st for pole positions. In my opinion these are outstanding achievements and he could surpass all of these achievements as he is still a active driver. And he will surpass them all and set new records. People just don't like the fact that he's finally speaking out in a sport where outside of racinv they keep everything very private" . I agree he can be viewed arrogant for various reasons and he does get bad press at times.I tend to look at what he does as a sportsman and looking at what he has already achieved he can be considered as one of the greats of the sport. | |||
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"Those who think Lewis wins because he has the fastest car clearly don't understand what happens in this sport. Most of the comments on here are based on the fact that people dislike him so it has to be the car that makes him win. I bet if Vettel or Max had won the last 3 championships people would be saying there're amazing drivers I've given a breakdown of Lewis career above in this thread. I dont think comments are from people who dislike him. Your comments clearly come from the basis you do like him. Nothing wrong with that but it is your opinion. Everyone has acknowledged he is a good driver...one of the best. We are saying he has the personality of a bellend...and it rubs people up the wrong way. Vettel did win multiple championship and everyone said he was great maybe even the next Schumacher...but they also said the same things they are saying now. They want competition in f1 not a parade and to be bombarded with lewis lecturing hashtags isn't why I watch f1. I watch f1 for car racing...I listen to activists to understand political beliefs." Of coz i like him and clearly you don't and that's your opinion. He's a bellend coz he's speaking out about something that doesn't sit well with him. So you want him to shut it and just drive so he can please those who are uncomfortable about the truth? Mercedes are superior in this era just like Redbull,Ferrari and even Renault had their time. Racing point lockdown out the second row in the last race and that shows you that other cars have a very good chance of catching the Silver Arrows | |||
"Those who think Lewis wins because he has the fastest car clearly don't understand what happens in this sport. Most of the comments on here are based on the fact that people dislike him so it has to be the car that makes him win. I bet if Vettel or Max had won the last 3 championships people would be saying there're amazing drivers I've given a breakdown of Lewis career above in this thread. I dont think comments are from people who dislike him. Your comments clearly come from the basis you do like him. Nothing wrong with that but it is your opinion. Everyone has acknowledged he is a good driver...one of the best. We are saying he has the personality of a bellend...and it rubs people up the wrong way. Vettel did win multiple championship and everyone said he was great maybe even the next Schumacher...but they also said the same things they are saying now. They want competition in f1 not a parade and to be bombarded with lewis lecturing hashtags isn't why I watch f1. I watch f1 for car racing...I listen to activists to understand political beliefs. Of coz i like him and clearly you don't and that's your opinion. He's a bellend coz he's speaking out about something that doesn't sit well with him. So you want him to shut it and just drive so he can please those who are uncomfortable about the truth? Mercedes are superior in this era just like Redbull,Ferrari and even Renault had their time. Racing point lockdown out the second row in the last race and that shows you that other cars have a very good chance of catching the Silver Arrows" Jeez who got out bed the wrong side this morning... I dont really have a strong opinion of him one way or the other but thanks for telling me how I think about him. I think he is a bellend because of his demeanor. I couldn't give a shit about any celebrity hashtag. I go to experts to inform myself...not whoever's is in the limelight. He behave liked a cock when nico won the wdc and to this day is but hurt about it. Rather than congratulating his long time friend. Its was what 4 years ago...they guy behaves like a spolit brat whenever things dont go his way. Yes he was subject to racism at one f1 testing event and the fia response to is was shit. But lets not forget Lewis also said when he was penalised by the fia..."maybe it is coz I is black" Nah you just broke the rules lewis | |||
"So many comments about him only winning because he has the best car. When Lewis joined Mercedes they where not the best of cars, coming 4th and 5th in constructors the previous years with Micheal Schumacher and Nico Rosberg as the drivers, Lewis arrived and they raised the game to 2nd in his first year then to 1st in his 2nd year, you have to ask why suddenly from 4th and 5th they are 1st in 2 years, Lewis also beat Nico Rosberg twice in the three years they partnered loosing only once when reliability hit his car. He is an outstanding driver who has amazing ability to take his car to the limit as driving in wet wether has shown. Wonder how many that comment could actually get an F1 car off the start line let alone manage a lap.." Thank you. Finally someone who knows what they're talking about. People make it seem as if he switched to Mercedes when they were already winning both Drivers and constructors championships. There was no guarantee that Mercedes were going to win all these title when he joined them. I think some people who are commenting have only watched this sport on TV, go to a circuit and see how good and brave all these drivers are. | |||
"Those who think Lewis wins because he has the fastest car clearly don't understand what happens in this sport. Most of the comments on here are based on the fact that people dislike him so it has to be the car that makes him win. I bet if Vettel or Max had won the last 3 championships people would be saying there're amazing drivers I've given a breakdown of Lewis career above in this thread. I dont think comments are from people who dislike him. Your comments clearly come from the basis you do like him. Nothing wrong with that but it is your opinion. Everyone has acknowledged he is a good driver...one of the best. We are saying he has the personality of a bellend...and it rubs people up the wrong way. Vettel did win multiple championship and everyone said he was great maybe even the next Schumacher...but they also said the same things they are saying now. They want competition in f1 not a parade and to be bombarded with lewis lecturing hashtags isn't why I watch f1. I watch f1 for car racing...I listen to activists to understand political beliefs. Of coz i like him and clearly you don't and that's your opinion. He's a bellend coz he's speaking out about something that doesn't sit well with him. So you want him to shut it and just drive so he can please those who are uncomfortable about the truth? Mercedes are superior in this era just like Redbull,Ferrari and even Renault had their time. Racing point lockdown out the second row in the last race and that shows you that other cars have a very good chance of catching the Silver Arrows Jeez who got out bed the wrong side this morning... I dont really have a strong opinion of him one way or the other but thanks for telling me how I think about him. I think he is a bellend because of his demeanor. I couldn't give a shit about any celebrity hashtag. I go to experts to inform myself...not whoever's is in the limelight. He behave liked a cock when nico won the wdc and to this day is but hurt about it. Rather than congratulating his long time friend. Its was what 4 years ago...they guy behaves like a spolit brat whenever things dont go his way. Yes he was subject to racism at one f1 testing event and the fia response to is was shit. But lets not forget Lewis also said when he was penalised by the fia..."maybe it is coz I is black" Nah you just broke the rules lewis" If you watched all the races from the season when Nico won you'll understand that Mercedes wanted Nico to become world champion. A German world champion in a German car was what they wanted and in that particular year Lewis's car had so many problems that could not be explained, at one point they even told him to let Nico overtake him and his response was 'if he's faster than me then he'll catch up and overtake. And they're still good friends in case you didn't know plus they're neighbours in Monaco | |||
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"As some have said here, those who think its just the car and drivers are interchangeable like light bulbs do not understand the sport, and the complexities involved. I think a classic example is to look at how Viettal binned his 2018 season, and then had his career as a front line driver to all intents and purposes terminated by Leclerc in 2019. Also, there are many instances where a great driver has dragged more out of a car than it deserved. Look at Senna in his last year at McLaren in 1993. Schumacher at his greatest was said to be worth a second a lap. If you know anything about the high performance engineering in F1, then you'll know that a second a lap is gold dust. Improvements like that are hard to discover, difficult to develop and cost fortunes to achieve. Hence, when a driver lands in your lap and can deliver, the chequebook opens. Mercedes and McLaren saw something in Lewis at a very early age, and the huge corporation that is Mercedes have bankrolled his career since the junior formula. They made it possible for him to be what he is, and without them, he'd be nothing. If at any point his star was fading, he'd have been dropped. Of course, it's not the first time Mercedes have bankrolled a driver. A certain Mr. Schumacher benefited from their assistance. So, you can't accuse them of not spotting greatness. In the past I have been critical of Lewis Hamilton. He has made some stupid comments, like when was describing his upbringing as "escaping from the gehto" Stevenage? Really? Compared to Monaco, perhaps. But compared to slums I think he needs to visit more "up and coming" neighbourhoods around the globe. And, like most people, he's posted some stupid stuff on social media and rightly drawn flack for it. But I'd be the first to say I've seen a different Lewis emerge. At his core, I think he does want to use his position and celebrity to do good. He's championing some good causes. He is changing his ways. He got shot of his jet for environmental reasons. He is maturing. He's had to duo his growing up in public. That won't be easy for anybody. According to Lord Hain (Labour) Lewis is a very significant tax payer to the UK. (It is widely believed that Sir Jackie Stewart had to wait a long time for his knighthood as he was a tax exile)" Well said Sir . At least there're some intelligent people who understand the sport on this thread | |||
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"Racing point lockdown out the second row in the last race and that shows you that other cars have a very good chance of catching the Silver Arrows" A car that is actually under investigation for being a Mercedes? It's been protested by Renault. It bares such a resemblance to the 2019 Mercedes that around the paddock it's known as the pink Mercedes. Laurance Still owns Racing Point. He also owns a very significant stake in Aston Martin. AMG now provide the engines to Aston Martin and have other commercial links to the company (don't be surprised to see them fall into the Mercedes empire) Next year, Racing Point will race as Aston Martin. Nothing is ever clear in F1. | |||
"As some have said here, those who think its just the car and drivers are interchangeable like light bulbs do not understand the sport, and the complexities involved. I think a classic example is to look at how Viettal binned his 2018 season, and then had his career as a front line driver to all intents and purposes terminated by Leclerc in 2019. Also, there are many instances where a great driver has dragged more out of a car than it deserved. Look at Senna in his last year at McLaren in 1993. Schumacher at his greatest was said to be worth a second a lap. If you know anything about the high performance engineering in F1, then you'll know that a second a lap is gold dust. Improvements like that are hard to discover, difficult to develop and cost fortunes to achieve. Hence, when a driver lands in your lap and can deliver, the chequebook opens. Mercedes and McLaren saw something in Lewis at a very early age, and the huge corporation that is Mercedes have bankrolled his career since the junior formula. They made it possible for him to be what he is, and without them, he'd be nothing. If at any point his star was fading, he'd have been dropped. Of course, it's not the first time Mercedes have bankrolled a driver. A certain Mr. Schumacher benefited from their assistance. So, you can't accuse them of not spotting greatness. In the past I have been critical of Lewis Hamilton. He has made some stupid comments, like when was describing his upbringing as "escaping from the gehto" Stevenage? Really? Compared to Monaco, perhaps. But compared to slums I think he needs to visit more "up and coming" neighbourhoods around the globe. And, like most people, he's posted some stupid stuff on social media and rightly drawn flack for it. But I'd be the first to say I've seen a different Lewis emerge. At his core, I think he does want to use his position and celebrity to do good. He's championing some good causes. He is changing his ways. He got shot of his jet for environmental reasons. He is maturing. He's had to duo his growing up in public. That won't be easy for anybody. According to Lord Hain (Labour) Lewis is a very significant tax payer to the UK. (It is widely believed that Sir Jackie Stewart had to wait a long time for his knighthood as he was a tax exile)" | |||
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" But then I am a biker & hold the Isle of Man & MotoGP in my heart. & as they say in those circles “Lewis Hamilton, who’s she?”
S"Did you not see the Hamilton-Rossi ride swap last year? Rossi said that with propper training, Lewis could be riding super-bikes within a year... if he wanted. Rossi himself almost had an F1 seat with Ferrari a few years back. Cal | |||
"Those who think Lewis wins because he has the fastest car clearly don't understand what happens in this sport. Most of the comments on here are based on the fact that people dislike him so it has to be the car that makes him win. I bet if Vettel or Max had won the last 3 championships people would be saying there're amazing drivers I've given a breakdown of Lewis career above in this thread. I dont think comments are from people who dislike him. Your comments clearly come from the basis you do like him. Nothing wrong with that but it is your opinion. Everyone has acknowledged he is a good driver...one of the best. We are saying he has the personality of a bellend...and it rubs people up the wrong way. Vettel did win multiple championship and everyone said he was great maybe even the next Schumacher...but they also said the same things they are saying now. They want competition in f1 not a parade and to be bombarded with lewis lecturing hashtags isn't why I watch f1. I watch f1 for car racing...I listen to activists to understand political beliefs." It took me a long time to understand why sports leaders were always saying keep sports and politics separate. Global sports is a very visible platform for anyone who wants to make a political statement. But its a very slippery slope once it is enmeshed in political sloganism. I can see now why they have always said keep sports as sports. And keep politics out of it. As for Lewis... Obviously a very good driver. Not very impressed why he would wear his own special slogan shirt when all other drivers had agreed on one. I suppose that's his privelage for being so remarkably good at his sport. Let's hope his t shirt achieves something. | |||
" But then I am a biker & hold the Isle of Man & MotoGP in my heart. & as they say in those circles “Lewis Hamilton, who’s she?”
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Did you not see the Hamilton-Rossi ride swap last year? Rossi said that with propper training, Lewis could be riding super-bikes within a year... if he wanted. Rossi himself almost had an F1 seat with Ferrari a few years back.
Cal"The Doctor was also pretty shit hot at rallying if I remember rightly. Hamilton is probably the best F1 driver, but when your at the top everything you do will be magnified tenfold. He is still a bellend | |||
"The best driver since the German and is already one of the sport's greats regardless of the fact that he drives the best car. Footballers tend to gravitate to the best teams so why not F1 drivers I do wish he'd cut the tax exile crap and live and pay taxes in the UK though He doesn't live there and isn't employed by a UK company af far as I know... why would he pay his taxes there? I'm aware he doesn't live here and that's my point He likes to take the moral high ground on certain issues - nothing wrong with that - but he resides outside the UK in a low tax jurisdiction to deliberately avoid UK tax. That isn't very moral " Id agree with you if the majority of his income was UK based or at least a UK based company or if he was living there I really would. But its not. So what exactly does he owe to the UK gov? | |||
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"The best driver since the German and is already one of the sport's greats regardless of the fact that he drives the best car. Footballers tend to gravitate to the best teams so why not F1 drivers I do wish he'd cut the tax exile crap and live and pay taxes in the UK though He doesn't live there and isn't employed by a UK company af far as I know... why would he pay his taxes there? I'm aware he doesn't live here and that's my point He likes to take the moral high ground on certain issues - nothing wrong with that - but he resides outside the UK in a low tax jurisdiction to deliberately avoid UK tax. That isn't very moral Id agree with you if the majority of his income was UK based or at least a UK based company or if he was living there I really would. But its not. So what exactly does he owe to the UK gov?" So he pissed of to live in Monaco in his first season of f1 And uses every loophole in the principality and uk holding companies for tax avoidance Why does he throw the union Jack around his arms like some kind of driving superhero. I get its tradition to fly the flag and play the anthem on the podium But if he owes nothing to the uk...why does he want to make a big deal he is British when its suits him. cough cough to sell merchandising | |||
"The best driver since the German and is already one of the sport's greats regardless of the fact that he drives the best car. Footballers tend to gravitate to the best teams so why not F1 drivers I do wish he'd cut the tax exile crap and live and pay taxes in the UK though He doesn't live there and isn't employed by a UK company af far as I know... why would he pay his taxes there? I'm aware he doesn't live here and that's my point He likes to take the moral high ground on certain issues - nothing wrong with that - but he resides outside the UK in a low tax jurisdiction to deliberately avoid UK tax. That isn't very moral Id agree with you if the majority of his income was UK based or at least a UK based company or if he was living there I really would. But its not. So what exactly does he owe to the UK gov? So he pissed of to live in Monaco in his first season of f1 And uses every loophole in the principality and uk holding companies for tax avoidance Why does he throw the union Jack around his arms like some kind of driving superhero. I get its tradition to fly the flag and play the anthem on the podium But if he owes nothing to the uk...why does he want to make a big deal he is British when its suits him. cough cough to sell merchandising" I have no idea why he would want to be British either
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"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver. Exactly! That boy stands on far too high a pedestal and it’s a long way to fall Didn't winning the WC in a McLaren count then?" Probably not when half of that McLaren was built on the back of stolen Ferrari plans....spygate It also explains why even as good as Lewis is. He could come into f1 and almost win the wdc in his first season. Shame you dont hear simailar praise for Magnusson who got on the podium in his first race in f1 and that years McLaren was a shitbox | |||
" Id agree with you if the majority of his income was UK based or at least a UK based company or if he was living there I really would. But its not. So what exactly does he owe to the UK gov?" He avoids paying the UK income tax by not living in the UK... I'm not sure but I believe that 99% of the worlds population also does the same. The uk's tax laws in relation to sports & performances are prohibitively strong. If a foreign performer or sportsman makes any money here they are expected to pay tax on their entire income... not just what they earn in the UK. Cal | |||
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"I hear Mercedes are worried about ruining the aerodynamics of the car when they have to redesign to fit his head into it. " He always seems incredibly humble to me, every post race interview he emphasises the efforts of the team, both at the track and in the factory, and then makes note of things HE could have done better. I've never heard him suggest that he is better than others, just that he's trying his best to finish the work of the team. Cal | |||
"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver." As above. I don't deny he's good but frankly it's the best car and F1 should be 2 tiered or such since there's really only a few that can win it so let the others race themselves or compete for another podium or something | |||
"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver. As above. I don't deny he's good but frankly it's the best car and F1 should be 2 tiered or such since there's really only a few that can win it so let the others race themselves or compete for another podium or something " Isn't there a formula 2? | |||
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"I hear Mercedes are worried about ruining the aerodynamics of the car when they have to redesign to fit his head into it. He always seems incredibly humble to me, every post race interview he emphasises the efforts of the team, both at the track and in the factory, and then makes note of things HE could have done better. I've never heard him suggest that he is better than others, just that he's trying his best to finish the work of the team. Cal" I just hear him say the word....Mercedes a billion times like some advertising automaton robot I can't be the only one who thinks he is dead behind the eyes. A single man driving th fastest cars in the world and one of the best played sports stars in the world... And he's got all the charisma of a stone brick. Shame because when he first came to f1 he was the most exciting thing in it | |||
"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver. As above. I don't deny he's good but frankly it's the best car and F1 should be 2 tiered or such since there's really only a few that can win it so let the others race themselves or compete for another podium or something " But... they all choose to be in F1, most of the teams operate in other formula too. Plus, Ferrari, Mclaren, Red Bull, Renault and Williams have all been "That Team" that dominated not too long ago. This is what drives the development. | |||
"To make F1 more exciting, they should put all the drivers names in a hat and all the cars. Draw 1 driver out then the car next, so much better and not just the wondering which Merc driver is going to win each race. " that would be epic. I would love to see all the f1 drivers have to drive in the same car for at least 2 races per year.... all carrying the same weight x | |||
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"Not a massive f1 fan but am I correct in thinking all the cars have to be the same specifications like size weights and engine size ? So if that’s the case then surely it comes down to the driver and his team " When you are talking 1000ths of second, the driver makes all the difference. If you put the same driver in each car on the grid, and gave that driver identical conditions, the difference in lap times might surprise you. Its not either or, its both. There is a set of rules, and specifications. Some parts can be shared / swapped / traded between teams but a certain percentage of the vehicle, and certain components of the vehicle have to be made by the team. (There are actually two championships running side by side, one for constructors and one for drivers) So, each team has a different car. Sometimes, cars within a team can be in different specifications and stages of development. Teams also have a caps on budgets, tyres, engines and gearboxes. Testing is also seriously curtailed, which I think is a shame, and one of the reasons Mercedes are so dominant in the hybrid era. As someone else has said, there is always a top dog, and as regulations change, so does the alpha. Williams and McLaren were once all conquering. Look at them now. Ferrari go through phases. Lotus and Brabham who had their glory days in the spotlight are now just memories. | |||
"I hear Mercedes are worried about ruining the aerodynamics of the car when they have to redesign to fit his head into it. He always seems incredibly humble to me, every post race interview he emphasises the efforts of the team, both at the track and in the factory, and then makes note of things HE could have done better. I've never heard him suggest that he is better than others, just that he's trying his best to finish the work of the team. Cal I just hear him say the word....Mercedes a billion times like some advertising automaton robot I can't be the only one who thinks he is dead behind the eyes. A single man driving th fastest cars in the world and one of the best played sports stars in the world... And he's got all the charisma of a stone brick. Shame because when he first came to f1 he was the most exciting thing in it" Mercedes won't let him "come out" until he retires. | |||
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"I hear Mercedes are worried about ruining the aerodynamics of the car when they have to redesign to fit his head into it. He always seems incredibly humble to me, every post race interview he emphasises the efforts of the team, both at the track and in the factory, and then makes note of things HE could have done better. I've never heard him suggest that he is better than others, just that he's trying his best to finish the work of the team. Cal I just hear him say the word....Mercedes a billion times like some advertising automaton robot I can't be the only one who thinks he is dead behind the eyes. A single man driving th fastest cars in the world and one of the best played sports stars in the world... And he's got all the charisma of a stone brick. Shame because when he first came to f1 he was the most exciting thing in it Mercedes won't let him "come out" until he retires. " Mwhahah 7 wdc and this and that divers records all sound great But this man was banging Nicole Scherzinger as older hot woman when she was right in her prime I know which I would have picked Lewis coming out as bi sexual is then next hashtag I'm expecting from him But hell probably call it gender inquisitive or some other marketing guff | |||
"Also I think top end rally drivers are better skilled than any f1 driver" Minor point, this years Ferrar is not so much a prancing horse as three legged Shetland pony! Probably a popular view, not least in Wales! I have the utmost respect for the rally drivers who also have remarkable skills. Its a different set of skills to circuit open wheel racing. The best in each could conceivably cross over, and some have. F1 is so corporate now, and after some fatalities and messy accidents, teams like their drivers dedicated to one category. When your star driver gets injured (or worse, killed) having another category on the side, it creates problems. | |||
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"I miss the old “Build what you like” days Ferrari’s flat twelve, Cosworth V8’s, Renault’s Turbo. Etc. When they stifled free reign development I started following Group C racing instead, with the Silver Arrows C6/8 & Silk Cut XJR Jags then they did the same to that & lost a number of manufacturers including Mazda with their rotary engine. Now the cost of both car & driver is astronomical anyway they should return to a true innovative open class because atm, they look the same bar paint, sound the same & it’s boring as fck. But then I am a biker & hold the Isle of Man & MotoGP in my heart. & as they say in those circles “Lewis Hamilton, who’s she?”
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"but lewis is in another level to anyone else simples really "A lot of people think it's just about driving the car. There is more, much more to it than that. In terms of driving the car, many of his rivals are on equal terms. Actually, at the top level, all the best drivers in pure skill terms are almost on a level playing field. There is the in depth knowledge and feel for the car. Being able to accurately relay information to engineers so together the optimum setup can be achieved. To be able to know where improvements can be made. An in depth understanding of what parameters drive the optimum performance to suite the conditions on any given track. Altitude, air temperature, track temperature , wind, rain, sunshine... it all matters! Change one variable and you need a different setup. And in case you've not guessed, on the current generation of F1 cars, love them or loath them, there are thousands of parameters. Another factor, and an absolutely hugely significant factor, is the drivers mental preparation. To the outsiders, it may look like a cold, hard arrogant arsehole. Some mask it better than others. Some show it, some hide it. But there has to be rock-solid confidence in your own abilities, and performance. If the driver doesn't believe in himself, cracks appear. In Rosbergs title year, he fully admits his success came from psychologically breaking Hamilton and, that it took so much out of him is the reason he quit. He wasn't prepared to go through it again. Racing drivers are not easy people to live with. Relationships are difficult to maintain, and marriages frequently end in divorce. A huge factor is the absolute focus on the task in hand. You need a great team. Every element has to be at it's very best. Right now, it looks like Mercedes and Hamilton is where its at. | |||
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"To make F1 more exciting, they should put all the drivers names in a hat and all the cars. Draw 1 driver out then the car next, so much better and not just the wondering which Merc driver is going to win each race. Or simply switch of drivers aids, then see how good they really are There have been no driver aids in F1 for over a decade. Learn what you're talking about before you speak." Who fucking cares, tiddlywinks is more exciting than watching Formula 1 nowadays. | |||
"Think we all would like to see the ultimate battle of Hamilton and Vestappen in the same car in the wet but sadly will never happen but think maybe a couple are as gifted as him in F1 but all down the machinery unfortunately. Don’t get me wrong he is a true racer and bloody quick but no better than Alonso or Max. Love to hear other people’s opinions on this so thanks op "
Hamilton can be relied upon more to control his behaviour and driving etiquette as opposed to Max at this stage. Max has a fair bit of maturity and race craft to develop.
If I was leading a race, the 2 drivers that I would fear most hunting me down would be Hamilton & Verstappen. I would be concerned that Max would be overly-aggresive and take me out whereas I would know that Lewis's speed, guile and determination would get him past but in a fair manner.
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"Think we all would like to see the ultimate battle of Hamilton and Vestappen in the same car in the wet but sadly will never happen but think maybe a couple are as gifted as him in F1 but all down the machinery unfortunately. Don’t get me wrong he is a true racer and bloody quick but no better than Alonso or Max. Love to hear other people’s opinions on this so thanks op
Hamilton can be relied upon more to control his behaviour and driving etiquette as opposed to Max at this stage. Max has a fair bit of maturity and race craft to develop.
If I was leading a race, the 2 drivers that I would fear most hunting me down would be Hamilton & Verstappen. I would be concerned that Max would be overly-aggresive and take me out whereas I would know that Lewis's speed, guile and determination would get him past but in a fair manner.
Like others, enjoying Lando's performances. Should be a tight team with Danny Ricc next season."Yeah, totally agree with your thoughts. Though based on his recent performance and increasing confidence I'm actually wondering whether Lando will walk all over Ricciardo next year.. Could well happen. | |||
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"Lewis is a fucking Living Legend and is arguably the most complete driver there has ever been. Hes bloody quick, as consistent as can be,doesn't necessarily have a bogey track, has race craft and knows how to overtake. He doesn't have many chinks in his armour and very rarely puts a foot wrong. Hes the only driver in history to have won a race in every year he has competed in and before the haters start jumping up and down and banging on about how he's always had the best car, thats not the case. In 2009, the McLaren MP4/24 was an absolute dog of a car but he still managed to win 2 races. He lost a championship to Rosberg in a year that he had some bad reliability. A reminder that his engine blew up whilst he was leading in Malaysia. Without that failure he would have won that year too. I've read that Button out scored him in Jensons first year at McLaren, yes thats true but again Lewis had more DNFs that year. Lewis battered JB in the qualifying stakes though and I think out qualified him over 50 times. Anyway, his records speak for themselves. The guy is class both ON and OFF the field. He is a marketers dreams and does so much for charity too. What he's doing right now for BLM, racial awareness and diversity is second to none. The guy just oozes class. Long may his reign continue and I hope he smashes every record. " You're a fan then are you?
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" But then I am a biker & hold the Isle of Man & MotoGP in my heart. & as they say in those circles “Lewis Hamilton, who’s she?”
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Did you not see the Hamilton-Rossi ride swap last year? Rossi said that with propper training, Lewis could be riding super-bikes within a year... if he wanted. Rossi himself almost had an F1 seat with Ferrari a few years back.
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Track racing is like rock climbing with a rope, it is dangerous but has built in safety features.
The IOM TT, is climbing without a rope or safety equipment."Hey Rachel.. Don't you bring those 2 wheeled things up on this thread! | |||
"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver." He woudnt win a race, if he was driving for one of the lowest teams | |||
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"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver. He woudnt win a race, if he was driving for one of the lowest teams " Yes he would. It's not just about the car,he's talented and he's also very confident with his handling skills | |||
"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver. He woudnt win a race, if he was driving for one of the lowest teams " So how has he found himself where he's driving for one of the top teams? F1 isn't known for sentimentality. | |||
"Take him out of the Mercedes and then we would see if he really is a great driver." He wasn’t always a Mercedes driver. He left the all conquering Maclaren team to join them when they were not podium material and made them what they are now | |||
"He wasn’t always a Mercedes driver. He left the all conquering Maclaren team to join them when they were not podium material and made them what they are now" Actually... Mercedes have bank rolled Hamilton since his very early years, and secured drives for him. He’s been Mercedes all his professional career. | |||
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"He wasn’t always a Mercedes driver. He left the all conquering Maclaren team to join them when they were not podium material and made them what they are now Actually... Mercedes have bank rolled Hamilton since his very early years, and secured drives for him. He’s been Mercedes all his professional career." Sorry, he drove for McLaren under Ron Dennis, who put him in the junior program and gave him his first f1 drive in 2007, until he left for Mercedes end of 2012
Unbelievable driver and one for the greats, but yes the Mercedes dominance since 2013 has helped his numbers! | |||
