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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I believe it is indifference.

And sweet lies, closely in a second place.

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Travelling

Paper cuts between the fingers

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Indifference isn't great

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By *otSoPoshWoman over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"I believe it is indifference.

And sweet lies, closely in a second place.

I would say you're right, closely followed by misunderstanding

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Paper cuts between the fingers"

Hey you. Havent seen you around in a while.

Yes. Or sharp grass.

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By *abasaurus RexMan over a year ago

Gloucestershire

Pinched ball skin in the zipper.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sweet lies. Definitely sweet lies

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By *uriousscouserWoman over a year ago

Wirral

Giving someone or a group the power to make me feel insignificant. I think it hurts most because I'm aware *I'm* the one allowing it to happen. It cuts deeper, somehow.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Indifference isn't great"

But hurts greatly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I believe it is indifference.

And sweet lies, closely in a second place.

I would say you're right, closely followed by misunderstanding "

Unless you have a chance to clear the air?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Pinched ball skin in the zipper. "

Hope it's all better now.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Betrayal.

Although the satisfaction you gain from avenging that betrayal can also be one of the biggest highs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Sweet lies. Definitely sweet lies "

Dont they just.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Giving someone or a group the power to make me feel insignificant. I think it hurts most because I'm aware *I'm* the one allowing it to happen. It cuts deeper, somehow."

Doesnt it kind of comes with the package of trust and opening up ?

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

Having all your spinal nerves totally crushed

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan over a year ago

Torquay

Tor stubbing, luckily it fades into memory quickly

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

lies

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By *stellaWoman over a year ago

London

Betrayal.

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan over a year ago

Torquay

"Tor stubbing, luckily it fades into memory quickly"

Toe

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care."

Unless you were a hermit someone would ?

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By *ouanna JoWoman over a year ago

A little village

Broken trust.

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By *edeWoman over a year ago

the abyss

Personally I'd say lies cut me the deepest but then it can depend how you find out they are lies in the first place.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

breaking your back in a riding accident

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Betrayal.

Although the satisfaction you gain from avenging that betrayal can also be one of the biggest highs. "

That does sound painful.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Smacked my thumb full swing with a hammer when the chisel slipped. Burst it wide open. Hurt like a bastard

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

In an emotional sense, for me it's lying. Not usually the lie, but that fat you thought I was too stupid to notice.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Standing on lego

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Tor stubbing, luckily it fades into memory quickly

Toe"

Moors on the mind

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

"In an emotional sense, for me it's lying. Not usually the lie, but that fat you thought I was too stupid to notice."

*fact

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By *orthern StarsCouple over a year ago

Durham

Grief. No pain can compare.

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By *oxyvixen99Woman over a year ago

Newtownabbey

"Standing on lego "
horrific pain!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care."

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By * Lexi xWoman over a year ago

stockport

Definitely betrayal

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In an emotional sense, for me it's lying. Not usually the lie, but that fat you thought I was too stupid to notice."

So true xx

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"I believe it is indifference.

And sweet lies, closely in a second place.

I would say you're right, closely followed by misunderstanding "

When someone you care about has a closed mind or is so hurt / insecure they can’t understand. You’re doomed to be eternally misunderstood...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Lies - if you don’t have your word? What do you have.

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By *stellaWoman over a year ago

London

"Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care.

I see you both, QK and Kat.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Having all your spinal nerves totally crushed

Anything to do with nerves sounds like an agony..

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan over a year ago

Torquay

"Tor stubbing, luckily it fades into memory quickly

Toe

Moors on the mind

They always are, I'm too predictable

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By *affeine DuskMan over a year ago

Caerphilly

Misunderstanding, in a sense, is worse.

For me, of course. Individual experiences, after all.

I've been hurt less by a lie than by a truth someone holds about me that isn't accurate.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Tor stubbing, luckily it fades into memory quickly"

I'm always doing that. Especially my little toes.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

Stepping on not 1 but 2 rusty nails! I cried like a bitch

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"lies"

Truth can be hurtful too on that note.

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By *uriousscouserWoman over a year ago

Wirral

"Giving someone or a group the power to make me feel insignificant. I think it hurts most because I'm aware *I'm* the one allowing it to happen. It cuts deeper, somehow.

Doesnt it kind of comes with the package of trust and opening up ? "

Not if you're smarter than I at choosing the people you trust!

It hurts that I care for people who will behave badly. I come away feeling completely insignificant, all the while knowing I'm the one that has given them the power to hurt me.

The feeling is mine alone, their behaviour only impacts me as much as I allow, and right now I'm allowing far too great an impact.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Misunderstanding, in a sense, is worse.

For me, of course. Individual experiences, after all.

I've been hurt less by a lie than by a truth someone holds about me that isn't accurate."

Well then it's a lie they chose to believe in. Or their own truth.

As for misunderstanding.. I'm really not sure if i understand that?

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By *iamondCougarWoman over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

Betray - especially if it’s a close friend

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Betrayal."

Definitely. Unless you chose not to believe in existence of loyalty.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Broken trust. "

Hard to fix.

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By *oxyvixen99Woman over a year ago

Newtownabbey

Grief

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Misunderstanding, in a sense, is worse.

For me, of course. Individual experiences, after all.

I've been hurt less by a lie than by a truth someone holds about me that isn't accurate."

Love this

. So true

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Personally I'd say lies cut me the deepest but then it can depend how you find out they are lies in the first place.

How it would make a difference?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Stepping on not 1 but 2 rusty nails! I cried like a bitch"
Oooh Double Penetration

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care.

I see you both, QK and Kat.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"breaking your back in a riding accident

This gave me goosebumps. Not in a good way.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Also, indifference hurts, trust being broken and not feeling good enough

Hippy

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By *stellaWoman over a year ago

London

"Betrayal.

Definitely. Unless you chose not to believe in existence of loyalty. "

I don’t think it’s a dissolution of loyalty, more trust.

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By *onderstuff73mMan over a year ago

Brum

When people don’t see what I see...so, my reflection, I guess

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Stepping on not 1 but 2 rusty nails! I cried like a bitchOooh Double Penetration

Damn if I'd thought of that at the time that might have made a difference & stopped the tears

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Broken trust. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Stepping on not 1 but 2 rusty nails! I cried like a bitchOooh Double Penetration

Damn if I'd thought of that at the time that might have made a difference & stopped the tears

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Breaking up even though you still want each other

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

"Grief. No pain can compare.

So true

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Smacked my thumb full swing with a hammer when the chisel slipped. Burst it wide open. Hurt like a bastard"

All good now I Hope..

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By *orraine999Woman over a year ago

Somewhere

Lies & deception leading to a loss of trust. Once you lose my trust there’s no chance of getting it back.

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By *iamondCougarWoman over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

"Broken trust. "

Depends on how the trust was broken but yes - I’m guessing it happens here all the time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Fresh ginger on someones fingers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Betrayal. Regardless as to their relations you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care.

Unless you were a hermit someone would ? "

* waves from the cave

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

People abusing your vulnerability.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Having your femur snapped in two. It happened when I was six and I still remember the pain and sensation of trying to walk on it

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By *evil-AngelWoman over a year ago

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Lying, cheating, betrayal are all ways of showing disrespect so for me it would disrespect xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Indifference, being left out and the feeling you are not missed x

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"Fresh ginger on someones fingers.

I'm not that bad

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By *stellaWoman over a year ago

London

"Fresh ginger on someones fingers.

I'm not that bad

You so fresh!

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

Betrayal of trust and abuse of the vulnerable I believe are the worst

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"Fresh ginger on someones fingers.

I'm not that bad

You so fresh!

Hell yeah

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By *stellaWoman over a year ago

London

"Having your femur snapped in two. It happened when I was six and I still remember the pain and sensation of trying to walk on it

Did the little fur ball recover?

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By *stellaWoman over a year ago

London

"Having your femur snapped in two. It happened when I was six and I still remember the pain and sensation of trying to walk on it

Did the little fur ball recover?

Or is that a lemur?

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By *orbidden eastMan over a year ago

london dodging electric scooters

Peoples assumptions

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Having your femur snapped in two. It happened when I was six and I still remember the pain and sensation of trying to walk on it

*tibia

Imagine

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Having your femur snapped in two. It happened when I was six and I still remember the pain and sensation of trying to walk on it

Did the little fur ball recover?

Or is that a lemur?"

Definitely a lemur

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not being seen for who you are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Whining without good reason....

.....followed by babies crying....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wahhhh someone on your hotlist not reading your expertly written "Hi how are you" opening message

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By * Lexi xWoman over a year ago

stockport

"Broken trust.

Depends on how the trust was broken but yes - I’m guessing it happens here all the time"

All the time! Crazy place.

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By *ily WhiteWoman over a year ago

Definitely lies - I value honesty greatly

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

" Wahhhh someone on your hotlist not reading your expertly written "Hi how are you" opening message

I checked. It's not me.

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By *innie The MinxWoman over a year ago

Under the Duvet

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By *innie The MinxWoman over a year ago

Under the Duvet

"Broken trust. "

Definitely.

Once broken it's very hard to gain back, and in my experience it's never the same again.

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By *uriousscouserWoman over a year ago

Wirral

"Fresh ginger on someones fingers.

I'm quite keen on that, but to each their own

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Indifference isn't great

But hurts greatly. "

Especially over a long period of time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not being seen for who you are."

This is interesting...I get it. Especially when you show people who you are...and they still don’t get it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Fresh ginger on someones fingers.

I can beat that Vicks vapour rub, not properly washed off!!!!

One of the first times the ex got truely animated in the bedroom!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care.

Unless you were a hermit someone would ? "

How many times have you seen reports on the news of people being found dead in their homes, having been there for weeks or months, and no one noticed their absence or bothered to check on them if they did? I've dreaded that happening to me - for a while, I thought things were changing, but I was wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care.

I see you both, QK and Kat.

Seeing isn't the same as noticing. Or valuing. People see things they then go out of their way to avoid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not being seen for who you are.

This is interesting...I get it. Especially when you show people who you are...and they still don’t get it"

But maybe YOU'RE NOT seeing who YOU really are??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I once hit the road at 80mph in motorbike accident, sore yes that was sore.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not being seen for who you are.

This is interesting...I get it. Especially when you show people who you are...and they still don’t get it

But maybe YOU'RE NOT seeing who YOU really are??"

Or perhaps one isn’t truly portraying who we are...perception is interesting

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By *affeine DuskMan over a year ago

Caerphilly

"Not being seen for who you are.

This is interesting...I get it. Especially when you show people who you are...and they still don’t get it

But maybe YOU'RE NOT seeing who YOU really are??"

That's what I mean with misunderstanding being quite painful, I think.

Took a long time to figure me out, feel like I am pretty me-ish in all things.

So when people get a different perception of that, it's an isolating feeling.

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By *parkle1974Woman over a year ago

Leeds

Standing on a piece of lego

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Standing on a piece of lego"

You've clearly never trodden on an upturned plug. Or a D4.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving someone or a group the power to make me feel insignificant. I think it hurts most because I'm aware *I'm* the one allowing it to happen. It cuts deeper, somehow.

Doesnt it kind of comes with the package of trust and opening up ?

Not if you're smarter than I at choosing the people you trust!

It hurts that I care for people who will behave badly. I come away feeling completely insignificant, all the while knowing I'm the one that has given them the power to hurt me.

The feeling is mine alone, their behaviour only impacts me as much as I allow, and right now I'm allowing far too great an impact."

I can totally relate. I even give myself a stern talking to cos it'll end in tears. Crikey I'm often in tears anyway - so why do I, and it sounds like you, put ourselves through it.

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

trust destroyed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not being seen for who you are.

This is interesting...I get it. Especially when you show people who you are...and they still don’t get it

But maybe YOU'RE NOT seeing who YOU really are??

That's what I mean with misunderstanding being quite painful, I think.

Took a long time to figure me out, feel like I am pretty me-ish in all things.

So when people get a different perception of that, it's an isolating feeling."

I understand and I didnt mean to appear facetious.

Many years ago I did a group exercise on a promotion course, with colleagues. We had to anonymously describe each other by writing down our opinions, then have them read out. It was amazing and a little cruel how peoples opinions of themselves were so different to that of others.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Physically - an iron girder on the brain.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving someone or a group the power to make me feel insignificant. I think it hurts most because I'm aware *I'm* the one allowing it to happen. It cuts deeper, somehow."

This

I've encountered on some threads on here. I'm not one of the gang, though I try

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By *arksxMan over a year ago

Leicester / London

"Betrayal.

Definitely. Unless you chose not to believe in existence of loyalty. "

The toughest fact to accept about betrayal is that....

It doesn't come from your enemies

It comes from those you care for the most

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The abuse of honesty/trust..

U slow give the inch of trust being honest with them, then Boom.. They smash it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Cluster headaches.

Being judged.

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

"Cluster headaches.

Being judged. "

strangers trolling you for no good reason

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

"Giving someone or a group the power to make me feel insignificant. I think it hurts most because I'm aware *I'm* the one allowing it to happen. It cuts deeper, somehow.

This

I've encountered on some threads on here. I'm not one of the gang, though I try

or when they get really judgy thinking they above others

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Two faced people. Nice to your face lie about you behind your back.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Betraying myself

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not being seen for who you are.

This is interesting...I get it. Especially when you show people who you are...and they still don’t get it

But maybe YOU'RE NOT seeing who YOU really are??"

Huh? Unlikely if I’m living with myself, in my head 24/7. Who’s better qualified then?

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By *ntrigued32Couple over a year ago

Nottingham

I would say chronic nerve pain. Or broken trust/heart.

Jo.Xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Cluster headaches.

Being judged.

strangers trolling you for no good reason"

Oh yes, this has happened to me a few times and recently to a very close friend.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care.

Unless you were a hermit someone would ?

Yeah, had a few periods of depression where I wouldn't talk to any friends or family for months, just the occasional small talk in the supermarket every week or two if I wasn't using the self-checkout.

These covid lockdown wingers don't know what suffering is

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By *affeine DuskMan over a year ago

Caerphilly

"Not being seen for who you are.

This is interesting...I get it. Especially when you show people who you are...and they still don’t get it

But maybe YOU'RE NOT seeing who YOU really are??

That's what I mean with misunderstanding being quite painful, I think.

Took a long time to figure me out, feel like I am pretty me-ish in all things.

So when people get a different perception of that, it's an isolating feeling.

I understand and I didnt mean to appear facetious.

Didn't take it as facetious at all

just felt a need to clarify my thought after seeing yours.

Which is quite on-topic, really.

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By *uriousscouserWoman over a year ago

Wirral

"Giving someone or a group the power to make me feel insignificant. I think it hurts most because I'm aware *I'm* the one allowing it to happen. It cuts deeper, somehow.

This

I've encountered on some threads on here. I'm not one of the gang, though I try

Oof... the only advice I can give is not to try. Post when you've something to say. Sometimes you'll get a response, much of the time you won't, but try not to let it get to you.

For me, I use this as entertainment rather than validation. The people I've met up with from this site and whose opinions matter most to me don't tend to be people who spend a massive amount of time on the forum (I try to stay away from drama where I can).

Find your own gang. Find your tribe, the people who share your views and values and humour. There's far more to this site than trying to make yourself different to fit in with someone else.

Just my two cents, of course!

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By *uge G RectionMan over a year ago

where I like to be... down south

Being friend zoned

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I would say chronic nerve pain. Or broken trust/heart.

Jo.Xx "

It has to be a broken heart doesnt it, that encompasses all those broken trusts and lies and deceptions in one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not being enough

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"In an emotional sense, for me it's lying. Not usually the lie, but that fat you thought I was too stupid to notice.

*fact"

Everything comes out eventually.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Says nothing and wanders quietly back to the cave....

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Standing on lego "

Such a cruel design !

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Grief. No pain can compare.

It's the biggest loss indeed..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Falling in love with your friend , who is a hapilly married woman, who loves you as well but will never leave her husband .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What hurts most? Betrayal

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Never hearing your Dad tell you he is proud of you

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care.

I guess it comes close to indifference. And it does suck.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care.

Unless you were a hermit someone would ?

I have but I do wonder if they chose to be alone and not make effort to be surrounded by family or friends or get familiar with neighbours or were they truly forgotten?

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By *ooljoeMan over a year ago

Harrogate

Betrayal as ex works out on the first day of her pregnancy, lies to have a miscarriage on the 3rd month. Apologises on the 8th month saying it was twins, but lost one then disappears to give birth on the 9th month then reappears finally at a distance just for money till date nearly 10yrs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Definitely betrayal "

Lots mentioned betrayal and lies. Seems quite universally hurtful.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Surely the aim of the wise is not to secure pleasure but moreover avoid pain it all its disguises ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Having to say goodbye to someone for (repeat) betrayal of trust, even though you STILL love them and you want to forgive them but you just can’t forgive them (again).

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Surely the aim of the wise is not to secure pleasure but moreover avoid pain it all its disguises ?"

eh? Avoiding pain is how you end up avoid life.

When people are isolated it's often due to betrayal, they don't want to be alone, but can't bring themselves to trust anyone.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Betrayal

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Surely the aim of the wise is not to secure pleasure but moreover avoid pain it all its disguises ?

eh? Avoiding pain is how you end up avoid life.

When people are isolated it's often due to betrayal, they don't want to be alone, but can't bring themselves to trust anyone."

Nothing pains some more than having to think?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I believe it is indifference.

And sweet lies, closely in a second place.

I would say you're right, closely followed by misunderstanding

When someone you care about has a closed mind or is so hurt / insecure they can’t understand. You’re doomed to be eternally misunderstood...

I see. I guess it would make me stop caring..?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Lies - if you don’t have your word? What do you have. "

Actions? Hence my point about sweet lies. Actions not words.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Betrayal"

I suppose the saddest part about betrayal is that it’s never delivered by an enemy?

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

I totally know what you mean about indifference. When someone is so important to you and you've given so much of yourself to them and you realise that to them you barely register in their consciousness. You can't even be mad like with betrayal as often they don't even mean harm.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Stepping on not 1 but 2 rusty nails! I cried like a bitch"

Auch! Hope you didnt need any painful injections after!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I totally know what you mean about indifference. When someone is so important to you and you've given so much of yourself to them and you realise that to them you barely register in their consciousness. You can't even be mad like with betrayal as often they don't even mean harm."

You put in words so much better than me. And that ignorance of the fact they hurt you is painful in itself too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Giving someone or a group the power to make me feel insignificant. I think it hurts most because I'm aware *I'm* the one allowing it to happen. It cuts deeper, somehow.

Doesnt it kind of comes with the package of trust and opening up ?

Not if you're smarter than I at choosing the people you trust!

It hurts that I care for people who will behave badly. I come away feeling completely insignificant, all the while knowing I'm the one that has given them the power to hurt me.

The feeling is mine alone, their behaviour only impacts me as much as I allow, and right now I'm allowing far too great an impact."

I wish you all the strength to build the walls to protect you.. and making up your toolbox of ways to deal with these patterns..x

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Betray - especially if it’s a close friend "

It wouldnt hurt much if it was someone who didnt matter.

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Travelling

It is soul destroying. What is even worse is when they attempt to feign interest, not for your sake but just because it is easier for them to do so.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Grief "

Apparently griefs comes in stages but I guess one element always lures and that is pain.

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

Deception. When someone sets out to decieve.

When you have put your trust in them and they don't trust you enough to be fucking honest or are too selfish and self centred because they want what they want and would rather lie than risk losing or not getting what they want.

Freedom of choice, people have the right to make decisions based on the truth, not a bastard lie.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Also, indifference hurts, trust being broken and not feeling good enough

Hippy"

They all seem related.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"When people don’t see what I see...so, my reflection, I guess

Because we see whats in the mirror not how others perceive us?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Breaking up even though you still want each other"

So confusing eh?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Lies & deception leading to a loss of trust. Once you lose my trust there’s no chance of getting it back."

It's good to look out after yourself x

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Fresh ginger on someones fingers.

Unless one likes it?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Betrayal. Regardless as to their relations you."

I feel it does make a bit of a difference?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care.

Unless you were a hermit someone would ?

* waves from the cave

Waves back. But you need that fireplace going if you want your wave noticed!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Having your femur snapped in two. It happened when I was six and I still remember the pain and sensation of trying to walk on it

Did it heal all well?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Deception. When someone sets out to decieve.

Freedom of choice, people have the right to make decisions based on the truth, not a bastard lie. "

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Indifference is tough.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Lying, cheating, betrayal are all ways of showing disrespect so for me it would disrespect xx"

Some of the feelings do intertwine dont they!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Indifference, being left out and the feeling you are not missed x"

We do agree.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Betrayal of trust and abuse of the vulnerable I believe are the worst "

I'm glad you brought up the second part. How can they defend themselves..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Peoples assumptions "

Only if bad. But then they are assumptions. Do they matter?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Not being seen for who you are."

I do wonder if how we would like to be seen isnt always compatible with how people read us?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Whining without good reason....

.....followed by babies crying....

My own babies yes. Others worries me but does not physically hurt like mine.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Definitely lies - I value honesty greatly "

Maybe because it's rare it's so valuable

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Broken trust.

Definitely.

Once broken it's very hard to gain back, and in my experience it's never the same again."

It is not. Especially if one isnt good at forgiving.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care.

Unless you were a hermit someone would ?

I have but I do wonder if they chose to be alone and not make effort to be surrounded by family or friends or get familiar with neighbours or were they truly forgotten? "

How do you surround yourself with friends when you don't have any? How do you get familiar withyour neighbours when they have no time for you? Blaming it on lack of effort is just a lazy generalisation.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I believe it is indifference.

And sweet lies, closely in a second place.

Tell me, tell me, tell me lies

Tell me lies

Tell me sweet little lies

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By *hickennchipsWoman over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

"I believe it is indifference.

And sweet lies, closely in a second place.

You are spot on

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Fresh ginger on someones fingers.

I can beat that Vicks vapour rub, not properly washed off!!!!

One of the first times the ex got truely animated in the bedroom!

Oooh

I can't begin to imagine the stingy feeling!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Indifference, being left out and the feeling you are not missed x"

That feeling of being knowingly excluded is awful.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Anonymity. Knowing you could disappear and no one would notice, let alone care.

Unless you were a hermit someone would ?

I have but I do wonder if they chose to be alone and not make effort to be surrounded by family or friends or get familiar with neighbours or were they truly forgotten?

It is how you wish to see it. I didnt generalise. I asked a question. I wondered out loud.

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

Was being so close

And having so much to say

And watching you walk away…

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Sorry for not replying to all. Thread about to close. Might put up a part 2 for the morning.

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