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"Honestly I think sex and dating etc are exclusive by nature and that's fine. Not everything has to include everyone =) " Couldn’t agree more - I guess take a step back and generally most people (that I know of anyway) have a variety of social circles right? Some are more personal and some more arms length | |||
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" I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc " I don’t believe this. I’m not always inclusive and lovely, especially not to people who don’t deserve that due to the way they treat others. And I don’t believe everyone loves me and nobody hates me either - I know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea and that’s OK. I include those who I wish to include. But I would never be deliberately rude or offensive to those I don’t wish to include... if that makes sense. | |||
" I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc I don’t believe this. I’m not always inclusive and lovely, especially not to people who don’t deserve that due to the way they treat others. And I don’t believe everyone loves me and nobody hates me either - I know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea and that’s OK. I include those who I wish to include. But I would never be deliberately rude or offensive to those I don’t wish to include... if that makes sense. " In summary you’re just a nice person aren’t you? Although I’d say my cup of tea for sure | |||
" I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc I don’t believe this. I’m not always inclusive and lovely, especially not to people who don’t deserve that due to the way they treat others. And I don’t believe everyone loves me and nobody hates me either - I know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea and that’s OK. I include those who I wish to include. But I would never be deliberately rude or offensive to those I don’t wish to include... if that makes sense. " Total sense | |||
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"You can’t include all of the people all of the time Nippy. Comments get missed by me generally, I have a habit of getting confused and lost as to where I am with threads. We all get missed out out or passed by" P.s. I’m babbling and probably have sun stroke | |||
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"Honestly I think sex and dating etc are exclusive by nature and that's fine. Not everything has to include everyone =) " On a forum, where most ppl aren't shagging much...? Don't you occasionally like to let someone new in or do you know exactly what you want and not have anything to learn from others....? | |||
"Honestly I think sex and dating etc are exclusive by nature and that's fine. Not everything has to include everyone =) Couldn’t agree more - I guess take a step back and generally most people (that I know of anyway) have a variety of social circles right? Some are more personal and some more arms length " What is your aim when using the fab forum? | |||
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"I'm not always lovely to others, nor do I think, want or need everyone to love me I'm okay with that " I'm ok with what your ok with. I'm actually not too different, but I just had a thought about it today, a deeper thought after some observation.... | |||
"Honestly I think sex and dating etc are exclusive by nature and that's fine. Not everything has to include everyone =) On a forum, where most ppl aren't shagging much...? Don't you occasionally like to let someone new in or do you know exactly what you want and not have anything to learn from others....? " I'm not on fab to learn things from others. If I come across a profile of a person I think seems interesting or I like the look of, then I'll send a message and go from there. Otherwise the forums are just a bit of fun to fill in time. | |||
"I think being reflective and looking in the mirror at your reflection and also becoming aware of your un.conscious bias and working every day to put your bias aside and be a kinder, better person are all valuable life goals These are my favourite sort of people " I absolutely agree.... Ppl who both give and take and enrich you, not just takers.... (Don't make that dirty! ) | |||
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" I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc I don’t believe this. I’m not always inclusive and lovely, especially not to people who don’t deserve that due to the way they treat others. And I don’t believe everyone loves me and nobody hates me either - I know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea and that’s OK. I include those who I wish to include. But I would never be deliberately rude or offensive to those I don’t wish to include... if that makes sense. " I here you, and I think we all do that. I definitely said "like to" as in we feel good when we think everything is awesome.... | |||
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" I try...honestly do try, and think about what impact my comment will have. But yup every now and then a comment will be made that I deem ridiculous, and I unwittingly assume its my place to try and shoot them down. Were all work in progress. I try not to be a member of the populist view brigade, but I do try to be inclusive. " Absolutely! I can be a total cunt when I see an easy target and I'm in the wrong frame if mind, I should reign that in more tbh.... | |||
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"You can’t include all of the people all of the time Nippy. Comments get missed by me generally, I have a habit of getting confused and lost as to where I am with threads. We all get missed out out or passed by" I didn't mean it on that level my cheeky lovely. I actually niaae a stunner yesterday (sorry TOO). I meant more in respect of do you all actually see the stuff you don't see, the "ugly" person who can't show their fat, unfunny ugly bits when beautiful funny folk are showing theirs.... I don't think that makes any more sense than my OP tbf, I'm struggling with getting my point accross today lol | |||
"You can’t include all of the people all of the time Nippy. Comments get missed by me generally, I have a habit of getting confused and lost as to where I am with threads. We all get missed out out or passed by P.s. I’m babbling and probably have sun stroke " I have aftersun.... | |||
"All we can do is try our best. I like to think I do that, even when I really don't want to. " Like with me....? | |||
"I try to be inclusive. The nature of the forum sometimes makes this hard. Or real life sometimes comes first, as it should. I'm not always successful but I do put a fair bit of effort in. And I take notice of others who do the same. " | |||
"You can’t include all of the people all of the time Nippy. Comments get missed by me generally, I have a habit of getting confused and lost as to where I am with threads. We all get missed out out or passed by I didn't mean it on that level my cheeky lovely. I actually niaae a stunner yesterday (sorry TOO). I meant more in respect of do you all actually see the stuff you don't see, the "ugly" person who can't show their fat, unfunny ugly bits when beautiful funny folk are showing theirs.... I don't think that makes any more sense than my OP tbf, I'm struggling with getting my point accross today lol " I’m really confused today | |||
"You can’t include all of the people all of the time Nippy. Comments get missed by me generally, I have a habit of getting confused and lost as to where I am with threads. We all get missed out out or passed by P.s. I’m babbling and probably have sun stroke I have aftersun.... " Do you have Gin | |||
"I don't think everyone loves me and no one hates me - that would be rather delusional and daft because I know I can be a bit of a twat at times. I'm not particularly fond of everyone either but that's neither here nor there I guess. I'm trying to be nicer to others and more inclusive - not because I want to be liked by all but with everything going on, why would I want to add to someone's burden? So if that involves biting my tongue or interacting with them on a thread, I'm happy to do that. I think being kind is a good thing. I don't really think about those who read my words unless I'm deliberately posting something for another person to read, most of my posts are rather soppy at the moment and apart from one or two I doubt many will engage with those. Before I was very argumentative and rather cutting in my response to others who had the audacity to argue with someone as incredible as me, now I don't post like that so it's not an issue. I do sometimes miss posting something a bit more but that's not quite me any more. I think I'm a lot softer and less confrontational. " I've never seen you angry and cutting Meli - would you be willing to revert to old Meli for a day to give me a chuckle... ? | |||
" I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc I don’t believe this. I’m not always inclusive and lovely, especially not to people who don’t deserve that due to the way they treat others. And I don’t believe everyone loves me and nobody hates me either - I know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea and that’s OK. I include those who I wish to include. But I would never be deliberately rude or offensive to those I don’t wish to include... if that makes sense. Total sense " Yep. This | |||
"All we can do is try our best. I like to think I do that, even when I really don't want to. Like with me....? " Like you with me? You know I include you because I want yourbig pink penis | |||
"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. " Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....? | |||
"I don't think everyone loves me and no one hates me - that would be rather delusional and daft because I know I can be a bit of a twat at times. I'm not particularly fond of everyone either but that's neither here nor there I guess. I'm trying to be nicer to others and more inclusive - not because I want to be liked by all but with everything going on, why would I want to add to someone's burden? So if that involves biting my tongue or interacting with them on a thread, I'm happy to do that. I think being kind is a good thing. I don't really think about those who read my words unless I'm deliberately posting something for another person to read, most of my posts are rather soppy at the moment and apart from one or two I doubt many will engage with those. Before I was very argumentative and rather cutting in my response to others who had the audacity to argue with someone as incredible as me, now I don't post like that so it's not an issue. I do sometimes miss posting something a bit more but that's not quite me any more. I think I'm a lot softer and less confrontational. I've never seen you angry and cutting Meli - would you be willing to revert to old Meli for a day to give me a chuckle... ? " I was thinking similar when she posted this. I literally can’t imagine confrontational Meli! | |||
"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....?" Ah... | |||
"Honestly I think sex and dating etc are exclusive by nature and that's fine. Not everything has to include everyone =) On a forum, where most ppl aren't shagging much...? Don't you occasionally like to let someone new in or do you know exactly what you want and not have anything to learn from others....? I'm not on fab to learn things from others. If I come across a profile of a person I think seems interesting or I like the look of, then I'll send a message and go from there. Otherwise the forums are just a bit of fun to fill in time." What are you on the forum for my lovely, why so you come here? I'll learn from the checkout lady at Tesco if I can..... | |||
"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....?" You're so black and white sometimes. There's a middle ground of indifference. And caring about those they like liking them not the fora in general | |||
"If I start a thread and people have taken the time to post, I try to respond to everyone - so in that sense, yes I’m inclusive Likewise, I’m not everyone’s cup of tea nor am I theirs. I respond to positive posts and people I have an affinity with. " Are you saying we have an affinity my love....? | |||
" Its kind of funny though...some replies from people being very humble stating they're not always very nice. Some of them I've never seen write anything remotely horrid? Or maybe I have the potential to be really horrid which water's down their actions " I think you need to have been horrid to fully understand true horrid tbf. I've been a proper twat... | |||
" Its kind of funny though...some replies from people being very humble stating they're not always very nice. Some of them I've never seen write anything remotely horrid? Or maybe I have the potential to be really horrid which water's down their actions I think you need to have been horrid to fully understand true horrid tbf. I've been a proper twat... " | |||
"No, I'm not all inclusive. I may be more inclusive than some and less inclusive than others but there are certainly people who I will ignore. I'm well aware that there are some who would rather I took my last breath sooner than later. Do I speak out of turn? Very probably. I admit I can get so wrapped up in my own emotions that I can't always see things from others perspectives, but that's generally when I'm being disregarded and feeling unheard. By disregarding my voice at times it feels like they're disregarding my life experiences, and nobody can take those away from me. When I speak up about stuff in a serious way, it's because I feel it needs to be heard." I actually appreciate you a lot more than you might realise my love, you have a lot of wisdom to offer, plus you're funny af! | |||
"You can’t include all of the people all of the time Nippy. Comments get missed by me generally, I have a habit of getting confused and lost as to where I am with threads. We all get missed out out or passed by I didn't mean it on that level my cheeky lovely. I actually niaae a stunner yesterday (sorry TOO). I meant more in respect of do you all actually see the stuff you don't see, the "ugly" person who can't show their fat, unfunny ugly bits when beautiful funny folk are showing theirs.... I don't think that makes any more sense than my OP tbf, I'm struggling with getting my point accross today lol I’m really confused today " Me too, can you please stop the world a sec.... | |||
"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....?" I see your point here but I also think there’s a difference between “liking being hated” and a broader acceptance of the fact that being disliked by some is part of life. I’m not necessarily jumping for delight if I think someone dislikes me, but I’ll know on an intuitive level it’s for a particular reason, and chances are I’ll dislike them too (in my experience). I don’t necessarily allow that to emotionally eat me up though. I accept that as part of life and a result of the type of relationship that person and I have had. | |||
"You can’t include all of the people all of the time Nippy. Comments get missed by me generally, I have a habit of getting confused and lost as to where I am with threads. We all get missed out out or passed by P.s. I’m babbling and probably have sun stroke I have aftersun.... Do you have Gin " Absolutely, are we using glasses....? | |||
"Honestly I think sex and dating etc are exclusive by nature and that's fine. Not everything has to include everyone =) On a forum, where most ppl aren't shagging much...? Don't you occasionally like to let someone new in or do you know exactly what you want and not have anything to learn from others....? I'm not on fab to learn things from others. If I come across a profile of a person I think seems interesting or I like the look of, then I'll send a message and go from there. Otherwise the forums are just a bit of fun to fill in time. What are you on the forum for my lovely, why so you come here? I'll learn from the checkout lady at Tesco if I can..... " That's great, good for you. That's the beauty of being human, everyone is different. If you're here to learn from people and be inclusive then that's fine. But we're all here for our own reasons =) | |||
"All we can do is try our best. I like to think I do that, even when I really don't want to. Like with me....? Like you with me? You know I include you because I want yourbig pink penis " I want you too, it's just your flaps temporarily startled met.... | |||
"I don't think everyone loves me and no one hates me - that would be rather delusional and daft because I know I can be a bit of a twat at times. I'm not particularly fond of everyone either but that's neither here nor there I guess. I'm trying to be nicer to others and more inclusive - not because I want to be liked by all but with everything going on, why would I want to add to someone's burden? So if that involves biting my tongue or interacting with them on a thread, I'm happy to do that. I think being kind is a good thing. I don't really think about those who read my words unless I'm deliberately posting something for another person to read, most of my posts are rather soppy at the moment and apart from one or two I doubt many will engage with those. Before I was very argumentative and rather cutting in my response to others who had the audacity to argue with someone as incredible as me, now I don't post like that so it's not an issue. I do sometimes miss posting something a bit more but that's not quite me any more. I think I'm a lot softer and less confrontational. I've never seen you angry and cutting Meli - would you be willing to revert to old Meli for a day to give me a chuckle... ? I was thinking similar when she posted this. I literally can’t imagine confrontational Meli! " I'm gonna pick on her soon and see if I can get her going.... | |||
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"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....? You're so black and white sometimes. There's a middle ground of indifference. And caring about those they like liking them not the fora in general " I would have said I'm permanent grey....? | |||
" Its kind of funny though...some replies from people being very humble stating they're not always very nice. Some of them I've never seen write anything remotely horrid? Or maybe I have the potential to be really horrid which water's down their actions I think you need to have been horrid to fully understand true horrid tbf. I've been a proper twat... " | |||
"All we can do is try our best. I like to think I do that, even when I really don't want to. Like with me....? Like you with me? You know I include you because I want yourbig pink penis I want you too, it's just your flaps temporarily startled met.... " I shall endeavour to sort them out for you so they're not so startling | |||
"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....? I see your point here but I also think there’s a difference between “liking being hated” and a broader acceptance of the fact that being disliked by some is part of life. I’m not necessarily jumping for delight if I think someone dislikes me, but I’ll know on an intuitive level it’s for a particular reason, and chances are I’ll dislike them too (in my experience). I don’t necessarily allow that to emotionally eat me up though. I accept that as part of life and a result of the type of relationship that person and I have had. " What about that chat we had last night though my love....? I think that includes both sides of the same issue. One person not knowing why they're disliked and another disliking irrationally, all for no reason.... | |||
"Honestly I think sex and dating etc are exclusive by nature and that's fine. Not everything has to include everyone =) On a forum, where most ppl aren't shagging much...? Don't you occasionally like to let someone new in or do you know exactly what you want and not have anything to learn from others....? I'm not on fab to learn things from others. If I come across a profile of a person I think seems interesting or I like the look of, then I'll send a message and go from there. Otherwise the forums are just a bit of fun to fill in time. What are you on the forum for my lovely, why so you come here? I'll learn from the checkout lady at Tesco if I can..... That's great, good for you. That's the beauty of being human, everyone is different. If you're here to learn from people and be inclusive then that's fine. But we're all here for our own reasons =) " Are you gonna take anything away from this thread... ? | |||
"Honestly I think sex and dating etc are exclusive by nature and that's fine. Not everything has to include everyone =) On a forum, where most ppl aren't shagging much...? Don't you occasionally like to let someone new in or do you know exactly what you want and not have anything to learn from others....? I'm not on fab to learn things from others. If I come across a profile of a person I think seems interesting or I like the look of, then I'll send a message and go from there. Otherwise the forums are just a bit of fun to fill in time. What are you on the forum for my lovely, why so you come here? I'll learn from the checkout lady at Tesco if I can..... That's great, good for you. That's the beauty of being human, everyone is different. If you're here to learn from people and be inclusive then that's fine. But we're all here for our own reasons =) Are you gonna take anything away from this thread... ? " Nope, but that's okay =) | |||
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"I think it's unrealistic to think that everyone that you meet will like you, or that you will like everyone that you meet. I posted recently on a #benice thread as I just think that's unattainable for the vast majority of, if not all people. I suggested that #don'tbeunkind was more realistic. What I meant by that is that there are people in this world that I will at best be civil to, usually because of their past actions, but I wouldn't go out of my way to be unkind to them, more just ignore them and be civil if our paths cross. I think everyone has people like this in their lives. So in answer to your OP, no, I won't always be inclusive and nice to everyone on here, because sometimes I have reason not to. But I also don't expect absolutely everyone to be inclusive and nice to me either. " Yeah, ignoring idiots for genuine personal reasons I get. But did you do the THINKING in bold? Have you missed anything? Are you aware of the nice ppl you might be missing out on? | |||
"All we can do is try our best. I like to think I do that, even when I really don't want to. Like with me....? Like you with me? You know I include you because I want yourbig pink penis I want you too, it's just your flaps temporarily startled met.... I shall endeavour to sort them out for you so they're not so startling " The whole pic looked like a weird Muppet with boob eyes..... | |||
"Honestly I think sex and dating etc are exclusive by nature and that's fine. Not everything has to include everyone =) On a forum, where most ppl aren't shagging much...? Don't you occasionally like to let someone new in or do you know exactly what you want and not have anything to learn from others....? I'm not on fab to learn things from others. If I come across a profile of a person I think seems interesting or I like the look of, then I'll send a message and go from there. Otherwise the forums are just a bit of fun to fill in time. What are you on the forum for my lovely, why so you come here? I'll learn from the checkout lady at Tesco if I can..... That's great, good for you. That's the beauty of being human, everyone is different. If you're here to learn from people and be inclusive then that's fine. But we're all here for our own reasons =) Are you gonna take anything away from this thread... ? Nope, but that's okay =) " It is ok, but I don't believe you. I believe we learn something from all our interactions.... | |||
"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....? I see your point here but I also think there’s a difference between “liking being hated” and a broader acceptance of the fact that being disliked by some is part of life. I’m not necessarily jumping for delight if I think someone dislikes me, but I’ll know on an intuitive level it’s for a particular reason, and chances are I’ll dislike them too (in my experience). I don’t necessarily allow that to emotionally eat me up though. I accept that as part of life and a result of the type of relationship that person and I have had. What about that chat we had last night though my love....? I think that includes both sides of the same issue. One person not knowing why they're disliked and another disliking irrationally, all for no reason.... " Well the chat last night referred to someone you’ve never spoken to or interacted with taking an instant dislike to you. Which is somewhat different to my example above, where I’m talking about having had a relationship of some type with a person that has developed into dislike on either or both parts. In the latter there’s at least some intuitive understanding of why things are as they are. The former is harder to understand, I suppose. But not necessarily harder to accept. If that makes any sense at all ... | |||
"I dont come here to upset anybodies day or be mean, I have probably been grumpier in the past and let certain things get to me when I shouldnt have but its just a jolly for me now and if people chat on the forums I try to chat back. Probably still not going to answer any messages though " Messages are another thread entirely.... ....I couldn't be that fully inclusive..... | |||
"Honestly I think sex and dating etc are exclusive by nature and that's fine. Not everything has to include everyone =) On a forum, where most ppl aren't shagging much...? Don't you occasionally like to let someone new in or do you know exactly what you want and not have anything to learn from others....? I'm not on fab to learn things from others. If I come across a profile of a person I think seems interesting or I like the look of, then I'll send a message and go from there. Otherwise the forums are just a bit of fun to fill in time. What are you on the forum for my lovely, why so you come here? I'll learn from the checkout lady at Tesco if I can..... That's great, good for you. That's the beauty of being human, everyone is different. If you're here to learn from people and be inclusive then that's fine. But we're all here for our own reasons =) Are you gonna take anything away from this thread... ? Nope, but that's okay =) It is ok, but I don't believe you. I believe we learn something from all our interactions.... " You're entitled to an opinion of course. However in this case you're definitely mistaken, unfortunately your beliefs don't hold true for everyone. Enjoy your evening. | |||
"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....? You're so black and white sometimes. There's a middle ground of indifference. And caring about those they like liking them not the fora in general I would have said I'm permanent grey....? " I don't think you are necessarily grey, I find you quite opinionated tbh. Which isn't a bad thing makes for better debates | |||
"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....? I see your point here but I also think there’s a difference between “liking being hated” and a broader acceptance of the fact that being disliked by some is part of life. I’m not necessarily jumping for delight if I think someone dislikes me, but I’ll know on an intuitive level it’s for a particular reason, and chances are I’ll dislike them too (in my experience). I don’t necessarily allow that to emotionally eat me up though. I accept that as part of life and a result of the type of relationship that person and I have had. What about that chat we had last night though my love....? I think that includes both sides of the same issue. One person not knowing why they're disliked and another disliking irrationally, all for no reason.... Well the chat last night referred to someone you’ve never spoken to or interacted with taking an instant dislike to you. Which is somewhat different to my example above, where I’m talking about having had a relationship of some type with a person that has developed into dislike on either or both parts. In the latter there’s at least some intuitive understanding of why things are as they are. The former is harder to understand, I suppose. But not necessarily harder to accept. If that makes any sense at all ... " A different part of the chat - I meant your initial message. Anyway this is not very inclusive.... lololol | |||
"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....? You're so black and white sometimes. There's a middle ground of indifference. And caring about those they like liking them not the fora in general I would have said I'm permanent grey....? I don't think you are necessarily grey, I find you quite opinionated tbh. Which isn't a bad thing makes for better debates " But isn't my opinion usually clouded and bridging....? | |||
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"All we can do is try our best. I like to think I do that, even when I really don't want to. Like with me....? Like you with me? You know I include you because I want yourbig pink penis I want you too, it's just your flaps temporarily startled met.... I shall endeavour to sort them out for you so they're not so startling The whole pic looked like a weird Muppet with boob eyes..... " As I may have mentioned.... NOT MINE! | |||
"I've got too much baggage of life to be inclusive. Have to have some exclusions- fem Not getting any pics of my pussy. You have to be up close and personal for that. I don't air my laundry in public. I have a tumber dryer. And close up are only in person. " Is that like an invitation....? | |||
"All we can do is try our best. I like to think I do that, even when I really don't want to. Like with me....? Like you with me? You know I include you because I want yourbig pink penis I want you too, it's just your flaps temporarily startled met.... I shall endeavour to sort them out for you so they're not so startling The whole pic looked like a weird Muppet with boob eyes..... As I may have mentioned.... NOT MINE! " Attach your face next time.... | |||
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"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....? You're so black and white sometimes. There's a middle ground of indifference. And caring about those they like liking them not the fora in general I would have said I'm permanent grey....? I don't think you are necessarily grey, I find you quite opinionated tbh. Which isn't a bad thing makes for better debates But isn't my opinion usually clouded and bridging....?" Generally not clouded I don't think, you have a nippy kind of philosphy which is different to most on here but it's consistent. But yes you do try to bridge between two sides of a debate which is big part of your philosophy | |||
"I think it's unrealistic to think that everyone that you meet will like you, or that you will like everyone that you meet. I posted recently on a #benice thread as I just think that's unattainable for the vast majority of, if not all people. I suggested that #don'tbeunkind was more realistic. What I meant by that is that there are people in this world that I will at best be civil to, usually because of their past actions, but I wouldn't go out of my way to be unkind to them, more just ignore them and be civil if our paths cross. I think everyone has people like this in their lives. So in answer to your OP, no, I won't always be inclusive and nice to everyone on here, because sometimes I have reason not to. But I also don't expect absolutely everyone to be inclusive and nice to me either. Yeah, ignoring idiots for genuine personal reasons I get. But did you do the THINKING in bold? Have you missed anything? Are you aware of the nice ppl you might be missing out on? " I approach everyone I meet with an open mind, and will only close down to them if they give me reason to - although I admit that sometimes that can be something very minor, but I trust my gut feeling about people and sometimes minor things give me that icky feeling. I think the problem on here is that people take a dislike to me without even conversing with me. I know I'm opinionated, and I'm definitely not one to shy away from a debate, but I've had messages in the past from complete strangers telling me what an awful person I am because they've read one thing I've posted in the course of a debate (usually taken out of context because they haven't read the whole thread). If somebody has sent me a message like that then I'm not going to be nice to them - fair enough, challenge my opinion, but don't call me a twat and wish bad things upon me and then expect me to send you hearts and flowers. Not everyone in the world is a nice person, and I tend to go with the treat people as they treat me method. | |||
"I do sometimes miss posting something a bit more but that's not quite me any more. I think I'm a lot softer and less confrontational. I've never seen you angry and cutting Meli - would you be willing to revert to old Meli for a day to give me a chuckle... ? I was thinking similar when she posted this. I literally can’t imagine confrontational Meli! I'm gonna pick on her soon and see if I can get her going.... " You can try Nippy (no don't, I'm delicate and fragile). You change and grow don't you? Right now I've got a lot of love in my life and I post like that. I'll revert back to old Meli when I'm due on, for a day only and cause mischief. Anyway, going back a bit to your OP, I hope that people post on threads when I infrequently start them and not worry about not being x, y and z before they do. | |||
"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....? You're so black and white sometimes. There's a middle ground of indifference. And caring about those they like liking them not the fora in general I would have said I'm permanent grey....? I don't think you are necessarily grey, I find you quite opinionated tbh. Which isn't a bad thing makes for better debates But isn't my opinion usually clouded and bridging....? Generally not clouded I don't think, you have a nippy kind of philosphy which is different to most on here but it's consistent. But yes you do try to bridge between two sides of a debate which is big part of your philosophy " So like a chequered bridge....? | |||
"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....? You're so black and white sometimes. There's a middle ground of indifference. And caring about those they like liking them not the fora in general I would have said I'm permanent grey....? I don't think you are necessarily grey, I find you quite opinionated tbh. Which isn't a bad thing makes for better debates But isn't my opinion usually clouded and bridging....? Generally not clouded I don't think, you have a nippy kind of philosphy which is different to most on here but it's consistent. But yes you do try to bridge between two sides of a debate which is big part of your philosophy So like a chequered bridge....?" Yes kind of, you like asking people questions that may lead then to middle ground. Or to think beyond their own dogma if that makes sense or that maybe totally bs | |||
"I do sometimes miss posting something a bit more but that's not quite me any more. I think I'm a lot softer and less confrontational. I've never seen you angry and cutting Meli - would you be willing to revert to old Meli for a day to give me a chuckle... ? I was thinking similar when she posted this. I literally can’t imagine confrontational Meli! I'm gonna pick on her soon and see if I can get her going.... You can try Nippy (no don't, I'm delicate and fragile). You change and grow don't you? Right now I've got a lot of love in my life and I post like that. I'll revert back to old Meli when I'm due on, for a day only and cause mischief. Anyway, going back a bit to your OP, I hope that people post on threads when I infrequently start them and not worry about not being x, y and z before they do." Can you tell me your dates? (not creepy AT ALL...!) I quite fancy a Meli battle..... You really should post more! I enjoy your threads, but try making them a little more GGGRrRrRrRrRrRrRr.... | |||
"I don't think I'm always lovely to others or that everyone loves me. I can throw my dummy out of the pram occasionally and be rude and behave how I'd rather not. I'm a work in progress though, and I'm dealing with people far more effectively than I used to. I argued with a friend the other the day and I didn't bite even though in the past I probably would have. With being inclusive I try to be as much as possible, although if someone upsets me that may not be case anymore. Although I don't start many threads here so I don't tend to have that pressure. On here I probably should make more effort to post on certain things, but lack the confidence to. And of course I know I'm not half as beautiful, popular or clever as most on here. But I need to accept that that doesn't make my opinion less valid. And I'm happy not winning arguements on here, but do like to debate sometimes. If I learn something good if not it's not end of the world. Your friend is a twat, js! I need to stress that I don't think everyone loves everyone etc, that point is being missed by most. I meant most ppl like it when everyone loves them etc, aka who likes being hated.....? You're so black and white sometimes. There's a middle ground of indifference. And caring about those they like liking them not the fora in general I would have said I'm permanent grey....? I don't think you are necessarily grey, I find you quite opinionated tbh. Which isn't a bad thing makes for better debates But isn't my opinion usually clouded and bridging....? Generally not clouded I don't think, you have a nippy kind of philosphy which is different to most on here but it's consistent. But yes you do try to bridge between two sides of a debate which is big part of your philosophy So like a chequered bridge....? Yes kind of, you like asking people questions that may lead then to middle ground. Or to think beyond their own dogma if that makes sense or that maybe totally bs" Hahaha, I do really like THINKING, beyond what we think we know with our set personalities, and letting others do the teaching, yes.... | |||
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"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x" You've read my mind. Sorry no can do on the vag. Have a good one OP | |||
"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x You've read my mind. Sorry no can do on the vag. Have a good one OP" Boobs....? | |||
"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x You've read my mind. Sorry no can do on the vag. Have a good one OP Boobs....? " If you show me yours first. | |||
"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x You've read my mind. Sorry no can do on the vag. Have a good one OP Boobs....? If you show me yours first. " Deal! | |||
"I think it's unrealistic to think that everyone that you meet will like you, or that you will like everyone that you meet. I posted recently on a #benice thread as I just think that's unattainable for the vast majority of, if not all people. I suggested that #don'tbeunkind was more realistic. What I meant by that is that there are people in this world that I will at best be civil to, usually because of their past actions, but I wouldn't go out of my way to be unkind to them, more just ignore them and be civil if our paths cross. I think everyone has people like this in their lives. So in answer to your OP, no, I won't always be inclusive and nice to everyone on here, because sometimes I have reason not to. But I also don't expect absolutely everyone to be inclusive and nice to me either. " This ^ For me it’s the same in non fab world. I’ll be polite / civil if end up in the same room, meeting as that is the right thing to do, but I won’t be laughing and joking with you. I don’t fluff up my words to suit someone’s reading style or needs, I’m blunt and straightforward. However, I wouldn’t seek to be or say anything horrible to someone because frankly they just aren’t worth my energy | |||
"I think it's unrealistic to think that everyone that you meet will like you, or that you will like everyone that you meet. I posted recently on a #benice thread as I just think that's unattainable for the vast majority of, if not all people. I suggested that #don'tbeunkind was more realistic. What I meant by that is that there are people in this world that I will at best be civil to, usually because of their past actions, but I wouldn't go out of my way to be unkind to them, more just ignore them and be civil if our paths cross. I think everyone has people like this in their lives. So in answer to your OP, no, I won't always be inclusive and nice to everyone on here, because sometimes I have reason not to. But I also don't expect absolutely everyone to be inclusive and nice to me either. This ^ For me it’s the same in non fab world. I’ll be polite / civil if end up in the same room, meeting as that is the right thing to do, but I won’t be laughing and joking with you. I don’t fluff up my words to suit someone’s reading style or needs, I’m blunt and straightforward. However, I wouldn’t seek to be or say anything horrible to someone because frankly they just aren’t worth my energy " Do you ever think you might miss out on new experiences or learning opportunities with such an approach....? Often ppl might be having an off day or you might misinterpret their meaning. I naturally mimic whoever I'm talking to, even to the point of picking up their accent and mannerisms. It's not a conscious thing either - my mates said I started sounding Welsh when I was seeing a Welsh girl not long ago, I think that's actually a good thing though when "you" is more than just what's inside your own mind and it pulls in your surroundings..... | |||
"I think it's unrealistic to think that everyone that you meet will like you, or that you will like everyone that you meet. I posted recently on a #benice thread as I just think that's unattainable for the vast majority of, if not all people. I suggested that #don'tbeunkind was more realistic. What I meant by that is that there are people in this world that I will at best be civil to, usually because of their past actions, but I wouldn't go out of my way to be unkind to them, more just ignore them and be civil if our paths cross. I think everyone has people like this in their lives. So in answer to your OP, no, I won't always be inclusive and nice to everyone on here, because sometimes I have reason not to. But I also don't expect absolutely everyone to be inclusive and nice to me either. This ^ For me it’s the same in non fab world. I’ll be polite / civil if end up in the same room, meeting as that is the right thing to do, but I won’t be laughing and joking with you. I don’t fluff up my words to suit someone’s reading style or needs, I’m blunt and straightforward. However, I wouldn’t seek to be or say anything horrible to someone because frankly they just aren’t worth my energy Do you ever think you might miss out on new experiences or learning opportunities with such an approach....? Often ppl might be having an off day or you might misinterpret their meaning. I naturally mimic whoever I'm talking to, even to the point of picking up their accent and mannerisms. It's not a conscious thing either - my mates said I started sounding Welsh when I was seeing a Welsh girl not long ago, I think that's actually a good thing though when "you" is more than just what's inside your own mind and it pulls in your surroundings..... " I don’t see how I’ll miss learning new things and experiences by being how I am. Everyone I first meet gets the same open welcome I’d give anyone. However, cross me or prove you are just a complete tw*t and that disappears. | |||
"I think it's unrealistic to think that everyone that you meet will like you, or that you will like everyone that you meet. I posted recently on a #benice thread as I just think that's unattainable for the vast majority of, if not all people. I suggested that #don'tbeunkind was more realistic. What I meant by that is that there are people in this world that I will at best be civil to, usually because of their past actions, but I wouldn't go out of my way to be unkind to them, more just ignore them and be civil if our paths cross. I think everyone has people like this in their lives. So in answer to your OP, no, I won't always be inclusive and nice to everyone on here, because sometimes I have reason not to. But I also don't expect absolutely everyone to be inclusive and nice to me either. This ^ For me it’s the same in non fab world. I’ll be polite / civil if end up in the same room, meeting as that is the right thing to do, but I won’t be laughing and joking with you. I don’t fluff up my words to suit someone’s reading style or needs, I’m blunt and straightforward. However, I wouldn’t seek to be or say anything horrible to someone because frankly they just aren’t worth my energy Do you ever think you might miss out on new experiences or learning opportunities with such an approach....? Often ppl might be having an off day or you might misinterpret their meaning. I naturally mimic whoever I'm talking to, even to the point of picking up their accent and mannerisms. It's not a conscious thing either - my mates said I started sounding Welsh when I was seeing a Welsh girl not long ago, I think that's actually a good thing though when "you" is more than just what's inside your own mind and it pulls in your surroundings..... I don’t see how I’ll miss learning new things and experiences by being how I am. Everyone I first meet gets the same open welcome I’d give anyone. However, cross me or prove you are just a complete tw*t and that disappears. " Everyone is themselves - there's nothing else a person can be. Some folk I'm sure would admit they miss out due to their own outlook and behaviour at times, I certainly do.... | |||
"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x You've read my mind. Sorry no can do on the vag. Have a good one OP Boobs....? If you show me yours first. Deal! " Thanks, and here you are.... | |||
"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x You've read my mind. Sorry no can do on the vag. Have a good one OP Boobs....? If you show me yours first. Deal! Thanks, and here you are.... " Oh my....! Faf....? | |||
"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x You've read my mind. Sorry no can do on the vag. Have a good one OP Boobs....? If you show me yours first. Deal! Thanks, and here you are.... Oh my....! Faf....? " I know, laughable right | |||
"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x You've read my mind. Sorry no can do on the vag. Have a good one OP Boobs....? If you show me yours first. Deal! Thanks, and here you are.... Oh my....! Faf....? I know, laughable right " How so my love...? | |||
"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x You've read my mind. Sorry no can do on the vag. Have a good one OP Boobs....? If you show me yours first. Deal! Thanks, and here you are.... Oh my....! Faf....? I know, laughable right How so my love...? " FAF means funny as fuck. | |||
"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x You've read my mind. Sorry no can do on the vag. Have a good one OP Boobs....? If you show me yours first. Deal! Thanks, and here you are.... Oh my....! Faf....? I know, laughable right How so my love...? FAF means funny as fuck. " Fancy A Fuck* | |||
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"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x You've read my mind. Sorry no can do on the vag. Have a good one OP Boobs....? If you show me yours first. Deal! Thanks, and here you are.... Oh my....! Faf....? I know, laughable right How so my love...? FAF means funny as fuck. Fancy A Fuck* " Awe, you've just made that up!! | |||
"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x You've read my mind. Sorry no can do on the vag. Have a good one OP Boobs....? If you show me yours first. Deal! Thanks, and here you are.... Oh my....! Faf....? I know, laughable right How so my love...? FAF means funny as fuck. Fancy A Fuck* Awe, you've just made that up!! " I have not! It's standard fab terminology.... | |||
"Have a good weekend. Veg in the post " May have gone off by the time it reaches him | |||
"Have a good weekend. Veg in the post " Thanks What kind of veg? | |||
"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x You've read my mind. Sorry no can do on the vag. Have a good one OP Boobs....? If you show me yours first. Deal! Thanks, and here you are.... Oh my....! Faf....? I know, laughable right How so my love...? FAF means funny as fuck. Fancy A Fuck* Awe, you've just made that up!! I have not! It's standard fab terminology.... " Now I know. Cheers for that! | |||
"Have a good weekend. Veg in the post Thanks What kind of veg? " Bustanut Squash | |||
"Have a good weekend. Veg in the post Thanks What kind of veg? Bustanut Squash" | |||
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"Inclusiveness isn't necessarily about being lovely to people. To me the term encompasses letting people be. The work I do is about inclusive practice and even in that realm there is a constant dialogue around how we can be more inclusive with regards to class, race, needs, ability, beliefs etc. Our collective responsibility and our role in any community, is often relative to where we find ourselves in any given situation. As individuals, we are also part of the picture. As is our capacity for engagement and our ability to facilitate accessibility. Where I cannot, someone else can. It's neither important nor realistic or indeed useful that we are all lovely to each other all of the time. But it is wonderful when we can let each other be at the very least. Celebrating diversity and applying tolerance is equally as useful as having a voice and expressing a difference or challenging another. Am I inclusive? Sometimes, most of the time... But I'm human so not all of the time... Hey ho. " Perfectly put | |||
"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x" They can be an emotional hangover if not nice to others. Thing is, some people may not know they are not being nice | |||
"I find im posting less and less on here, going back into the cave and avoiding anything beyond the wholly superficial.....and then much of the time I may type a comment and just hit delete. Its for others to judge if I'm inclusive and lovely to others. My imperfections are legion, and have been expressed to me on occasion in terms that made me question how others see me. Yet I have no control over their perceptions. They may be right, although I hope they are wrong. I do know that I say less share less trust less, and whilst I try not to post comments designed to hurt dehumamise and criticise others sometimes I have clearly done so. Lovely its so relative to how others see us all. Inclusive, perhaps I'm too used to my own company. Perhaps inoffensive is the best im capable of.... I do know I walk away from confrontation arguments and many of the more aggressive threads on here and private messaging is sometimes not easy, as I often wonder why others would ever want to interact with me. So maybe I'm the problem.... " Thanks fella, that's actually one of the few responses to this thread from a person who actually THOUGHT like I asked them to in the OP, rather than just say "I'm ME, take it or leave it, look at me and how popular I am!" or trying to passive aggressively point score against a challenging OP they felt threatened by. Your response, to me at least, is TRUE INCLUSION my friend . Well done for questioning yourself, your response made me a little sad tbh because imho YOU are the type of thoughtful poster I'd like to see more of, with an open and flexible and challenging mind that doesn't regurgitate the same old bollocks, especially as things get back to normal and hopefully less angry and polarised.... My initial idea came from observing some ppl who I talk to privately who feel uncomfortable or unable to contribute on the forum because of the popularity and beauty competition presented at times on the light-hearted threads, and the polarised camps that develope in the more serious ones. If we were all at a social or down the pub then no doubt many if us would behave a lot differently because we'd see all the people being left out and those people would probably start their own conversations with each other too..... | |||
"Think about it? ....NOOOO, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT....!!! I know we all like to believe that we're inclusive and lovely to others and that everyone loves us in return and nobody hates us etc, but when you THINK about it - are you really inclusive....? Could you do better....? Would you even want to do better if you could....? Do you think about the people who read your words but then don't reply because they don't feel bold or beautiful or clever or funny enough or because they fear you'll jump on them for their views....? Do you need to win that argument....? I'm not saying I'm not at fault here btw, I know I am, but how about you....? So tell me your shiz please my lovelies and if all else fails just flirt with me and send vag, just one vag at a time though please, thanks.... Have a great Friday evening Much love, respect and emoji's Nip x They can be an emotional hangover if not nice to others. Thing is, some people may not know they are not being nice" That's very true, and that's why I asked ppl to think, and then REALLY THINK.... | |||
"I ignore most people on the forum most of the time. I make an effort if I start a thread to engage with all of those who post, however it is very time consuming. I engage in conversation on threads that lend I themselves to it on subject that interest me. I am kind some of the time but enjoy good ideological debate. I mostly post for my own amusement or because I feel particularly moved. I also engage in pleasant pastimes and rituals. I feel no need to do anything differently although I’m generally open to feedback about my behaviour if it has a negative impact on others. I’m pretty flawed and quite open about it too." Flawed, to me, is beautiful, especially when we're aware of it.... | |||
"There are different degrees of inclusiveness and letting people in, and some of those degrees are determined by time - I'm open minded and inclusive about anyone I meet initially, as I get to know them they either get included more or less depending on how I find them, and the more I get to know them the more I allow them in, or keep them at a distance. And for some that may be an elastic pull/push experience where they may initially be allowed closer but then pushed away because of something they have done. Conversely there may be some I don't instantly warm to, but over time come to find I like as I get to know them better. It's a natural and human instinct. I don't feel I am missing out by adopting the above approach - my natural instincts are usually right - occasionally they'll be a little off and an adjustment is required, but again that's natural and instinctive. A lot also comes down to circumstance on something like a lighthearted forum thread it's quite easy to be inclusive to all, something with more depth, there may be some people you avoid because of past history, violent disagreement and other factors. If I have an opinion on something I'll express it, and am prepared for it to be challenged and man enough to accept when I am wrong if I am proven to be so, or I'm the face of a compelling counter argument. I won't be nice for the sake of being nice though, although I will be civil and never deliberately unkind, but doing so for the sake of it, is somewhat fake and false in my opinion, and in some ways quite the opposite of what it might appear at face value. I'll treat others as I'd like to be treated, and accept that there will be those that like me, and those that don't, just as I'll have people I warm to and those I'll keep at arms length - again it's both natural and instinctive to do so. Unfortunately there are those in life, and especially on here, who will see a different opinion as a personal attack or cry "bullying" because you believe differently to them, even though you've provided balance and reasoning for that opposing opinion, and people like that are very difficult to be inclusive towards - I'll not be unkind to them, but I will keep them at arms length and avoid them where I can." Do you think anyone sees you as a bully then....? I genuinely couldn't imagine that.... The post was more about some deeper thought about what we don't see on the surface and the ppl we don't even realise we're excluding.... | |||
"Inclusiveness isn't necessarily about being lovely to people. To me the term encompasses letting people be. The work I do is about inclusive practice and even in that realm there is a constant dialogue around how we can be more inclusive with regards to class, race, needs, ability, beliefs etc. Our collective responsibility and our role in any community, is often relative to where we find ourselves in any given situation. As individuals, we are also part of the picture. As is our capacity for engagement and our ability to facilitate accessibility. Where I cannot, someone else can. It's neither important nor realistic or indeed useful that we are all lovely to each other all of the time. But it is wonderful when we can let each other be at the very least. Celebrating diversity and applying tolerance is equally as useful as having a voice and expressing a difference or challenging another. Am I inclusive? Sometimes, most of the time... But I'm human so not all of the time... Hey ho. " I always find you to be very inclusive Freya. I think maybe some might be a little shy or frightened of your beauty and your super chilled way with words though, those one's might need a little encouragement to get the best out of.... | |||
"Inclusiveness isn't necessarily about being lovely to people. To me the term encompasses letting people be. The work I do is about inclusive practice and even in that realm there is a constant dialogue around how we can be more inclusive with regards to class, race, needs, ability, beliefs etc. Our collective responsibility and our role in any community, is often relative to where we find ourselves in any given situation. As individuals, we are also part of the picture. As is our capacity for engagement and our ability to facilitate accessibility. Where I cannot, someone else can. It's neither important nor realistic or indeed useful that we are all lovely to each other all of the time. But it is wonderful when we can let each other be at the very least. Celebrating diversity and applying tolerance is equally as useful as having a voice and expressing a difference or challenging another. Am I inclusive? Sometimes, most of the time... But I'm human so not all of the time... Hey ho. " Perfect. | |||
"There are different degrees of inclusiveness and letting people in, and some of those degrees are determined by time - I'm open minded and inclusive about anyone I meet initially, as I get to know them they either get included more or less depending on how I find them, and the more I get to know them the more I allow them in, or keep them at a distance. And for some that may be an elastic pull/push experience where they may initially be allowed closer but then pushed away because of something they have done. Conversely there may be some I don't instantly warm to, but over time come to find I like as I get to know them better. It's a natural and human instinct. I don't feel I am missing out by adopting the above approach - my natural instincts are usually right - occasionally they'll be a little off and an adjustment is required, but again that's natural and instinctive. A lot also comes down to circumstance on something like a lighthearted forum thread it's quite easy to be inclusive to all, something with more depth, there may be some people you avoid because of past history, violent disagreement and other factors. If I have an opinion on something I'll express it, and am prepared for it to be challenged and man enough to accept when I am wrong if I am proven to be so, or I'm the face of a compelling counter argument. I won't be nice for the sake of being nice though, although I will be civil and never deliberately unkind, but doing so for the sake of it, is somewhat fake and false in my opinion, and in some ways quite the opposite of what it might appear at face value. I'll treat others as I'd like to be treated, and accept that there will be those that like me, and those that don't, just as I'll have people I warm to and those I'll keep at arms length - again it's both natural and instinctive to do so. Unfortunately there are those in life, and especially on here, who will see a different opinion as a personal attack or cry "bullying" because you believe differently to them, even though you've provided balance and reasoning for that opposing opinion, and people like that are very difficult to be inclusive towards - I'll not be unkind to them, but I will keep them at arms length and avoid them where I can. Do you think anyone sees you as a bully then....? I genuinely couldn't imagine that.... The post was more about some deeper thought about what we don't see on the surface and the ppl we don't even realise we're excluding.... " It's been said yes, usually by people that don't like that I have an opposing view to them, and often as a means to counter a balanced and reasoned point I've made - so in my eyes isn't bullying in the slightest, but hey ho. As for deep thinking, I think I got fairly deep about my approach there and I think in that respect I can be pretty inclusive to most people to begin with regardless of who they are - however if someone has regularly crossed me, or given me reason to distance myself from them then yes I'll avoid as much as possible, be civil if in a situation where we have to interact but inclusion may not enter into it. Inclusivity is a very subjective thing on here though - and yes it can be difficult to break through, but it usually boils down to just keep pegging away and you'll find your feet. Inclusion is a two way street in some respects, requires both sides to make an effort of sorts, and while it's often said regulars should be inclusive of newbies, those newbies that thrive and become established are often the ones who do as I suggested and keep on keeping on. | |||
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"Inclusiveness isn't necessarily about being lovely to people. To me the term encompasses letting people be. The work I do is about inclusive practice and even in that realm there is a constant dialogue around how we can be more inclusive with regards to class, race, needs, ability, beliefs etc. Our collective responsibility and our role in any community, is often relative to where we find ourselves in any given situation. As individuals, we are also part of the picture. As is our capacity for engagement and our ability to facilitate accessibility. Where I cannot, someone else can. It's neither important nor realistic or indeed useful that we are all lovely to each other all of the time. But it is wonderful when we can let each other be at the very least. Celebrating diversity and applying tolerance is equally as useful as having a voice and expressing a difference or challenging another. Am I inclusive? Sometimes, most of the time... But I'm human so not all of the time... Hey ho. I always find you to be very inclusive Freya. I think maybe some might be a little shy or frightened of your beauty and your super chilled way with words though, those one's might need a little encouragement to get the best out of.... " Aw thanks, that's a lovely thing to say. Interesting too.. Regarding being shy or frightened.. We stir up all sorts in each other all of the time hey. We cannot always be responsible for others responses. We can only be responsible for ourselves in the end..and owning our own thoughts, responses and actions without expectation is indeed the most inclusive we can be X | |||