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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
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I don't doubt this moan will die a quick death but it's not about being a grammar/spelling/punctuation Nazi - it's about making sense of what you write and what you write making sense  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't doubt this moan will die a quick death but it's not about being a grammar/spelling/punctuation Nazi - it's about making sense of what you write and what you write making sense "
I am in total agreement.
On a site like this context is so critical. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think most people write on here how they would speak. Bit like text messaging. But for me writing is writing and speaking is speaking - not the same thing.
But then I enjoy writing and like to make sure whatever I write is well crafted. Even on a forum like this.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
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I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Alas some of us are not as clever as others but we do our best and on a whole we do try but as a builder by trade I an exempted by the thick twat grammar law of 1976 to use grammar or those punctuation things.
Sorry op.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"... this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
like thick or just lazy "
You have no idea why people don’t/can’t |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Around 10% of the population has dyslexia with around 4% at its severe end of the spectrum.
I agree, there is a requirement for grammar, and there does seem to be an element of reverse snobbery towards those that see its value.
However, I'm managing to use the site fairly well; and to be honest, its another filter to use for checking compatibility? No doubt there may be some mistakes in this post! |
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
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" Around 10% of the population has dyslexia with around 4% at its severe end of the spectrum.
I agree, there is a requirement for grammar, and there does seem to be an element of reverse snobbery towards those that see its value.
However, I'm managing to use the site fairly well; and to be honest, its another filter to use for checking compatibility? No doubt there may be some mistakes in this post! "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason? "
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud). |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Alas some of us are not as clever as others but we do our best and on a whole we do try but as a builder by trade I an exempted by the thick twat grammar law of 1976 to use grammar or those punctuation things.
Sorry op.
T"
And yet you use a full stop  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud). "
Which is why I added or some reason.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"... this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
like thick or just lazy"
Definitely laziness, after all, this is social media  |
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud). "
I struggle with grammar and punctuation it took me 5 hours to wrote our profile.does not mean I am thick and lazy |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"... this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
like thick or just lazy
You have no idea why people don’t/can’t "
I think we are all guilty of laziness. I often omit a full stop and replace it with an emoticon  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud). "
I agree, and I made reference to statistics based on others comments.
But let's be honest, some people can't apply what they don't know?
Aside from taking into account statemented educational needs, there will be those with lesser skills. Someone above rather flippantly albeit in humour, referred to them as thick.
Does that mean if you can't run ten miles your fat and useless physically? No, you simply have different abilities.
Grammar does make things easier to comprehend of course, but Im not going to judge others unless I need their assistance in preparing official documents! |
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
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I agree with you except that I think full stops are more important than commas. I see some examples on here that are just a stream of words that are hard to wade through. Just breaking them up into sentences would be a huge improvement. |
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud). "
What if I need to draw breath less so than you.
I am not a fan of the grammar police or anything that makes others feel badly.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"you come across as very intelligent
Thanks I think?. Yes sorry it was a bit of a snarky comment, but I just love our language."
As do I. Being a wordsmith maybe considered as a sign of intelligence or elitism, however, using punctuation (at least a comma, or fullstop.) makes comprehension easier. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Alas some of us are not as clever as others but we do our best and on a whole we do try but as a builder by trade I an exempted by the thick twat grammar law of 1976 to use grammar or those punctuation things.
Sorry op.
T
And yet you use a full stop "
Only out of respect for you op.
I’m dyslexic and find that using the spelling thing under the writing thing box but punctuation is done to me so if I’m typing fast I often forget.
Spelling is my bug bear but being a dumbarse I can’t really complain so I don’t.
And your thread has wings op oh ye of little faith.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I struggle with grammar and punctuation it took me 5 hours to wrote our profile.does not mean I am thick and lazy "
Thanks I've read your profile and it's very clear.
I appreciate the effort that goes into writing well. At the end of the day we are all trying to understand each other as much as possible. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud).
I agree, and I made reference to statistics based on others comments.
But let's be honest, some people can't apply what they don't know?
Aside from taking into account statemented educational needs, there will be those with lesser skills. Someone above rather flippantly albeit in humour, referred to them as thick.
Does that mean if you can't run ten miles your fat and useless physically? No, you simply have different abilities.
Grammar does make things easier to comprehend of course, but Im not going to judge others unless I need their assistance in preparing official documents!"
It's not about judgement. I've seen acceptable alternatives on this site, such as each sentence separated as you would paragraphs.
Have you ever tried to read a huge amount of words that has zero punctuation and is in one paragraph? If you read it aloud, you'll get out of breath I assure you. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud).
What if I need to draw breath less so than you.
I am not a fan of the grammar police or anything that makes others feel badly.
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Try thinking positively - people might learn something to benefit themselves! |
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud).
I agree, and I made reference to statistics based on others comments.
But let's be honest, some people can't apply what they don't know?
Aside from taking into account statemented educational needs, there will be those with lesser skills. Someone above rather flippantly albeit in humour, referred to them as thick.
Does that mean if you can't run ten miles your fat and useless physically? No, you simply have different abilities.
Grammar does make things easier to comprehend of course, but Im not going to judge others unless I need their assistance in preparing official documents!
It's not about judgement. I've seen acceptable alternatives on this site, such as each sentence separated as you would paragraphs.
Have you ever tried to read a huge amount of words that has zero punctuation and is in one paragraph? If you read it aloud, you'll get out of breath I assure you. "
Maybe you are just unfit |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Alas some of us are not as clever as others but we do our best and on a whole we do try but as a builder by trade I an exempted by the thick twat grammar law of 1976 to use grammar or those punctuation things.
Sorry op.
T
And yet you use a full stop
Only out of respect for you op.
I’m dyslexic and find that using the spelling thing under the writing thing box but punctuation is done to me so if I’m typing fast I often forget.
Spelling is my bug bear but being a dumbarse I can’t really complain so I don’t.
And your thread has wings op oh ye of little faith.
T"
Aww shucks  
And stop putting yourself down. |
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I appreciate a well written profile or message, but I don’t hold it against someone if their grammar isn’t a strong point for them.
However some mistakes make me smile, one in particular is loose instead of lose (as in lost) but I know my phone often autocorrects me at times. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud).
I agree, and I made reference to statistics based on others comments.
But let's be honest, some people can't apply what they don't know?
Aside from taking into account statemented educational needs, there will be those with lesser skills. Someone above rather flippantly albeit in humour, referred to them as thick.
Does that mean if you can't run ten miles your fat and useless physically? No, you simply have different abilities.
Grammar does make things easier to comprehend of course, but Im not going to judge others unless I need their assistance in preparing official documents!
It's not about judgement. I've seen acceptable alternatives on this site, such as each sentence separated as you would paragraphs.
Have you ever tried to read a huge amount of words that has zero punctuation and is in one paragraph? If you read it aloud, you'll get out of breath I assure you.
Maybe you are just unfit"
I am actually and increasing my stamina is the biggest part of my rehabilitation - brain willing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
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English is not my first language. Can I be excused.
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud).
I struggle with grammar and punctuation it took me 5 hours to wrote our profile.does not mean I am thick and lazy "
The inability to use grammar or punctuation is not an indicator of how intelligent someone is or is not.
Try to give less fucks. x |
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud).
I agree, and I made reference to statistics based on others comments.
But let's be honest, some people can't apply what they don't know?
Aside from taking into account statemented educational needs, there will be those with lesser skills. Someone above rather flippantly albeit in humour, referred to them as thick.
Does that mean if you can't run ten miles your fat and useless physically? No, you simply have different abilities.
Grammar does make things easier to comprehend of course, but Im not going to judge others unless I need their assistance in preparing official documents!
It's not about judgement. I've seen acceptable alternatives on this site, such as each sentence separated as you would paragraphs.
Have you ever tried to read a huge amount of words that has zero punctuation and is in one paragraph? If you read it aloud, you'll get out of breath I assure you.
Maybe you are just unfit
I am actually and increasing my stamina is the biggest part of my rehabilitation - brain willing. "
Well if you get out of breath from reading I would say you have very serious issues.....health issues that is |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I appreciate a well written profile or message, but I don’t hold it against someone if their grammar isn’t a strong point for them.
However some mistakes make me smile, one in particular is loose instead of lose (as in lost) but I know my phone often autocorrects me at times. "
My phone makes me grrrr. If I type a word that can also be a contraction, eg were and we're, it will autocorrect to the contraction. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"OP I agree with your comments, if one should put pen to paper, or indeed, tap a keyboard, it would be delightful to read what is written, with correct punctuation. "
Good punctuation is a beautiful thing. Basic punctuation, or alternatives, a necessity. |
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As long as it’s able to be read, I will go with whatever is written. Yes, the proper use of English is nice to read, but as long as it’s legible and not full of this “bae/wuut/av’it” crap, I don’t really bother myself over it all. Each to their own. Remember- you don’t know if there are learning difficulties or a bad education that isn’t the posters fault....
And no, English is not my first language, nor my second! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
English is not my first language. Can I be excused.
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Absolutely
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I appreciate a well written profile or message, but I don’t hold it against someone if their grammar isn’t a strong point for them.
However some mistakes make me smile, one in particular is loose instead of lose (as in lost) but I know my phone often autocorrects me at times.
My phone makes me grrrr. If I type a word that can also be a contraction, eg were and we're, it will autocorrect to the contraction. "
Which is why I always turn off all autocorrection on my phone/PC.
Always have done because it bugs me so much. If I want to know how to spell a word I look it up.
I always quickly read back what I've written to catch any mistakes (still miss some though). |
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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago
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"OP I agree with your comments, if one should put pen to paper, or indeed, tap a keyboard, it would be delightful to read what is written, with correct punctuation.
Good punctuation is a beautiful thing. Basic punctuation, or alternatives, a necessity. "
Absolutely! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud).
I agree, and I made reference to statistics based on others comments.
But let's be honest, some people can't apply what they don't know?
Aside from taking into account statemented educational needs, there will be those with lesser skills. Someone above rather flippantly albeit in humour, referred to them as thick.
Does that mean if you can't run ten miles your fat and useless physically? No, you simply have different abilities.
Grammar does make things easier to comprehend of course, but Im not going to judge others unless I need their assistance in preparing official documents!
It's not about judgement. I've seen acceptable alternatives on this site, such as each sentence separated as you would paragraphs.
Have you ever tried to read a huge amount of words that has zero punctuation and is in one paragraph? If you read it aloud, you'll get out of breath I assure you.
Maybe you are just unfit
I am actually and increasing my stamina is the biggest part of my rehabilitation - brain willing.
Well if you get out of breath from reading I would say you have very serious issues.....health issues that is "
I do have serious health issues but the point I'm trying to make, is that you cannot read an extremely long paragraph in one breath. Commas (a pause in the prose) tell you to breath - as well as other things. |
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud).
I agree, and I made reference to statistics based on others comments.
But let's be honest, some people can't apply what they don't know?
Aside from taking into account statemented educational needs, there will be those with lesser skills. Someone above rather flippantly albeit in humour, referred to them as thick.
Does that mean if you can't run ten miles your fat and useless physically? No, you simply have different abilities.
Grammar does make things easier to comprehend of course, but Im not going to judge others unless I need their assistance in preparing official documents!
It's not about judgement. I've seen acceptable alternatives on this site, such as each sentence separated as you would paragraphs.
Have you ever tried to read a huge amount of words that has zero punctuation and is in one paragraph? If you read it aloud, you'll get out of breath I assure you.
Maybe you are just unfit
I am actually and increasing my stamina is the biggest part of my rehabilitation - brain willing.
Well if you get out of breath from reading I would say you have very serious issues.....health issues that is
I do have serious health issues but the point I'm trying to make, is that you cannot read an extremely long paragraph in one breath. Commas (a pause in the prose) tell you to breath - as well as other things. "
I thought as much...it explains everything |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
English is not my first language. Can I be excused.
Absolutely
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Searching for an adult learning centre.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It doesn’t bother me on here.
I’m terrible at work though where I proof read others’ reports - I’m forever adding in punctuation with my red pen! They love me. "
I bet there are odd occasions you'd like to use your red pen here  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud).
I agree, and I made reference to statistics based on others comments.
But let's be honest, some people can't apply what they don't know?
Aside from taking into account statemented educational needs, there will be those with lesser skills. Someone above rather flippantly albeit in humour, referred to them as thick.
Does that mean if you can't run ten miles your fat and useless physically? No, you simply have different abilities.
Grammar does make things easier to comprehend of course, but Im not going to judge others unless I need their assistance in preparing official documents!
It's not about judgement. I've seen acceptable alternatives on this site, such as each sentence separated as you would paragraphs.
Have you ever tried to read a huge amount of words that has zero punctuation and is in one paragraph? If you read it aloud, you'll get out of breath I assure you. "
Ok, badly worded on my behalf perhaps (irony!!).
I agree, there is a need for punctuation to make sentences comprehensible.
My point being, that there's a far greater section of society who simply don't have the skills to do so. Not a judgement, but rather an observation. If I was talking with someone who had learning difficulties for instance, I'd adjust my vocabulary or voice innotations perhaps? I guess the same goes for the written word. I'll disect what I can, then ask for clarity if its difficult to make sense of?
In here its easy. I can simply move on and ignore. I haven't proof read the above, I'm busy!  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
English is not my first language. Can I be excused.
Absolutely
Not
Searching for an adult learning centre.
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I find that many non-native English speakers are better at articulating than the average English speaker. My French ex definitely was. And when I pointed out errors, it was because he wanted to progress further. He certainly didn't see it as negative. |
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud).
I agree, and I made reference to statistics based on others comments.
But let's be honest, some people can't apply what they don't know?
Aside from taking into account statemented educational needs, there will be those with lesser skills. Someone above rather flippantly albeit in humour, referred to them as thick.
Does that mean if you can't run ten miles your fat and useless physically? No, you simply have different abilities.
Grammar does make things easier to comprehend of course, but Im not going to judge others unless I need their assistance in preparing official documents!
It's not about judgement. I've seen acceptable alternatives on this site, such as each sentence separated as you would paragraphs.
Have you ever tried to read a huge amount of words that has zero punctuation and is in one paragraph? If you read it aloud, you'll get out of breath I assure you.
Ok, badly worded on my behalf perhaps (irony!!).
I agree, there is a need for punctuation to make sentences comprehensible.
My point being, that there's a far greater section of society who simply don't have the skills to do so. Not a judgement, but rather an observation. If I was talking with someone who had learning difficulties for instance, I'd adjust my vocabulary or voice innotations perhaps? I guess the same goes for the written word. I'll disect what I can, then ask for clarity if its difficult to make sense of?
In here its easy. I can simply move on and ignore. I haven't proof read the above, I'm busy! "
I move on after the second attempt. However, I'm hoping that some people might be surprised and learn from the thread.
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over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
Dyslexia is about the written word, not punctuation.
The simplest form of punctuation is to add commas, where you would naturally draw breath (if reading out loud).
I agree, and I made reference to statistics based on others comments.
But let's be honest, some people can't apply what they don't know?
Aside from taking into account statemented educational needs, there will be those with lesser skills. Someone above rather flippantly albeit in humour, referred to them as thick.
Does that mean if you can't run ten miles your fat and useless physically? No, you simply have different abilities.
Grammar does make things easier to comprehend of course, but Im not going to judge others unless I need their assistance in preparing official documents!
It's not about judgement. I've seen acceptable alternatives on this site, such as each sentence separated as you would paragraphs.
Have you ever tried to read a huge amount of words that has zero punctuation and is in one paragraph? If you read it aloud, you'll get out of breath I assure you.
Maybe you are just unfit
I am actually and increasing my stamina is the biggest part of my rehabilitation - brain willing.
Well if you get out of breath from reading I would say you have very serious issues.....health issues that is
I do have serious health issues but the point I'm trying to make, is that you cannot read an extremely long paragraph in one breath. Commas (a pause in the prose) tell you to breath - as well as other things.
I thought as much...it explains everything "
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over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
English is not my first language. Can I be excused.
Absolutely
Not
Searching for an adult learning centre.
I find that many non-native English speakers are better at articulating than the average English speaker. My French ex definitely was. And when I pointed out errors, it was because he wanted to progress further. He certainly didn't see it as negative. "
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Loads of people don't practice correct grammar. Doesn't really bother me. It's easy enough to understand what most people are trying to say.
There are various reasons why some aren't great with grammar or spelling. I wouldn't judge someone for it.
As long as someone's polite, respectful and able to hold a conversation with me in person, I'm happy
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
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That’s really true OP. but sometimes it’s just the dreaded AutoCorrect that comes into play |
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over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
English is not my first language. Can I be excused.
Absolutely
Not
Searching for an adult learning centre.
I find that many non-native English speakers are better at articulating than the average English speaker. My French ex definitely was. And when I pointed out errors, it was because he wanted to progress further. He certainly didn't see it as negative.
I have an opinion on this but I choose not to express it on an open forum. I have learned my lesson. "
To be fair, I think it's easier to understand one's own language when you learn another. Either that or I went to crappy schools. I recall being told to conjugate verbs: "errrr what miss? Oh go through the "doing" words... with pronouns, errrm what miss?"
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
That’s really true OP. but sometimes it’s just the dreaded AutoCorrect that comes into play"
Your mob autocorrects punctuation? I want that phone |
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"Loads of people don't practice correct grammar. Doesn't really bother me. It's easy enough to understand what most people are trying to say.
There are various reasons why some aren't great with grammar or spelling. I wouldn't judge someone for it.
As long as someone's polite, respectful and able to hold a conversation with me in person, I'm happy
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I'm on about the written word. Punctuation equates to the pauses and intonations of speech. It's nothing to do with grammar and spelling. |
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
That’s really true OP. but sometimes it’s just the dreaded AutoCorrect that comes into play
Your mob autocorrects punctuation? I want that phone "
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason? "
Good punctuation is even more helpful for those with dyslexia, as it can make a very long list of words make sense. |
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over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
English is not my first language. Can I be excused.
Absolutely
Not
Searching for an adult learning centre.
I find that many non-native English speakers are better at articulating than the average English speaker. My French ex definitely was. And when I pointed out errors, it was because he wanted to progress further. He certainly didn't see it as negative.
I have an opinion on this but I choose not to express it on an open forum. I have learned my lesson.
To be fair, I think it's easier to understand one's own language when you learn another. Either that or I went to crappy schools. I recall being told to conjugate verbs: "errrr what miss? Oh go through the "doing" words... with pronouns, errrm what miss?"
And I was in the top stream "
I was in the top stream because I learnt to memorise the whole alphabet.
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"Loads of people don't practice correct grammar. Doesn't really bother me. It's easy enough to understand what most people are trying to say.
There are various reasons why some aren't great with grammar or spelling. I wouldn't judge someone for it.
As long as someone's polite, respectful and able to hold a conversation with me in person, I'm happy
I'm on about the written word. Punctuation equates to the pauses and intonations of speech. It's nothing to do with grammar and spelling. "
I'm with you OP, presumably people write something in an effort to communicate with others. Anything we can do to help that communication be more accurately understood is surely a good thing. |
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By *ouanna JoWoman
over a year ago
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"It doesn’t bother me on here.
I’m terrible at work though where I proof read others’ reports - I’m forever adding in punctuation with my red pen! They love me.
I bet there are odd occasions you'd like to use your red pen here "
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason? "
As I suffer from dyslexia for spelling and maths it can be hard on here sometimes...
But I do try...no text speak though I can see why that puts people off... |
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over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
English is not my first language. Can I be excused.
Absolutely
Not
Searching for an adult learning centre.
I find that many non-native English speakers are better at articulating than the average English speaker. My French ex definitely was. And when I pointed out errors, it was because he wanted to progress further. He certainly didn't see it as negative.
I have an opinion on this but I choose not to express it on an open forum. I have learned my lesson.
To be fair, I think it's easier to understand one's own language when you learn another. Either that or I went to crappy schools. I recall being told to conjugate verbs: "errrr what miss? Oh go through the "doing" words... with pronouns, errrm what miss?"
And I was in the top stream
I was in the top stream because I learnt to memorise the whole alphabet.
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"It doesn’t bother me on here.
I’m terrible at work though where I proof read others’ reports - I’m forever adding in punctuation with my red pen! They love me.
I bet there are odd occasions you'd like to use your red pen here
No comment! "
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over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
As I suffer from dyslexia for spelling and maths it can be hard on here sometimes...
But I do try...no text speak though I can see why that puts people off..."
I think maths is dyscalcula (I'm going to check ). |
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over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
As I suffer from dyslexia for spelling and maths it can be hard on here sometimes...
But I do try...no text speak though I can see why that puts people off...
I think maths is dyscalcula (I'm going to check ). "
Dyscalculia  |
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over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
English is not my first language. Can I be excused.
Absolutely
Not
Searching for an adult learning centre.
I find that many non-native English speakers are better at articulating than the average English speaker. My French ex definitely was. And when I pointed out errors, it was because he wanted to progress further. He certainly didn't see it as negative.
I have an opinion on this but I choose not to express it on an open forum. I have learned my lesson.
To be fair, I think it's easier to understand one's own language when you learn another. Either that or I went to crappy schools. I recall being told to conjugate verbs: "errrr what miss? Oh go through the "doing" words... with pronouns, errrm what miss?"
And I was in the top stream
I was in the top stream because I learnt to memorise the whole alphabet.
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Let me add, I was the talk of the school because I could recite the alphabet in under 30 seconds. My parents were so proud of me, blissful times.
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
As I suffer from dyslexia for spelling and maths it can be hard on here sometimes...
But I do try...no text speak though I can see why that puts people off..."
I agree with you on text speak I wouldn’t worry about it tho .There’s always people on here that have nothing better to do than make others feel like shit.Just be you and fuck what anyone else thinks. |
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
As I suffer from dyslexia for spelling and maths it can be hard on here sometimes...
But I do try...no text speak though I can see why that puts people off...I agree with you on text speak I wouldn’t worry about it tho .There’s always people on here that have nothing better to do than make others feel like shit.Just be you and fuck what anyone else thinks."
Isn't everyone here for a fuck? |
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"I don't doubt this moan will die a quick death but it's not about being a grammar/spelling/punctuation Nazi - it's about making sense of what you write and what you write making sense "
With all due respect, it doesn't come easily to some people. |
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
As I suffer from dyslexia for spelling and maths it can be hard on here sometimes...
But I do try...no text speak though I can see why that puts people off...
I think maths is dyscalcula (I'm going to check ).
Dyscalculia "
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over a year ago
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"I know it's not Thursday but tough.
If you have cognitive problems, then you'll understand the need for punctuation or suitable alternatives.
PLEASE, at least use commas. Take the guess work out of what you're trying to say (if it's worth reading).
I understand that you’re saying, but this is working under the assumption that people aren’t dyslexic or some other reason?
As I suffer from dyslexia for spelling and maths it can be hard on here sometimes...
But I do try...no text speak though I can see why that puts people off...
I think maths is dyscalcula (I'm going to check ).
Dyscalculia
Nice one "
Oddly enough I heard it first through Fab.
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I often find myself rolling my eyes at the spelling and punctuation here. Alas, it is not polite to correct other forum users mistakes. One never know what their individual circumstances are on the literacy table....
Just suck it up buttercup |
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By *arex2Couple
over a year ago
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"I don't doubt this moan will die a quick death but it's not about being a grammar/spelling/punctuation Nazi - it's about making sense of what you write and what you write making sense "
Bang on the money! Couldn't agree more. Punctuation is just as important as the words conveyed. Bravo! |
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Some people aren’t being lazy or ignorant, they may have a different level of education or a different first language. May I suggest that if you can actually comprehend what they’re saying, perhaps you should assume they did their best? I also think your writing, grammar and punctuation should positively be above reproach if you make a post like this. I found 3 errors throughout your post and replies.
When I encounter an absolute wall of text that I truly can’t comprehend, I simply decide not to reply or to move on as we likely won’t get on. It is way easier than acting superior toward everyone who doubts themselves over a typo or doesn’t have the same education or experience as I do. : D
Signed, a reformed grammar Nazi who was once corrected by a person who made a few grammatical/spelling/punctuation errors in English. English was their 6th language. I don’t speak 6 languages lol |
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"Some people aren’t being lazy or ignorant, they may have a different level of education or a different first language. May I suggest that if you can actually comprehend what they're... "
Writing.
The whole point is it being too difficult to read and comprehend.
I ignored the rest as the essence of my input to the thread is about using basic punctuation or alternative styles (typing each sentence as a paragraph for example). I often use an emoticon instead of a fullstop. Many posters do the same.
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"I don't doubt this moan will die a quick death but it's not about being a grammar/spelling/punctuation Nazi - it's about making sense of what you write and what you write making sense
Bang on the money! Couldn't agree more. Punctuation is just as important as the words conveyed. Bravo!"
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people are people. we all have different approaches and styles.
However, at the very least it only takes a moment to read your message again before hitting send. |
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