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"I think it was Banksy who said this and I'm paraphrasing: Like if there's a broken pipe in your flat and the people downstairs are getting flooded, they'd like to come and talk to you and fix the problem, but after lots of approaches and not being heard, at some point the door is gonna get kicked in..." 
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"I think it was Banksy who said this and I'm paraphrasing: Like if there's a broken pipe in your flat and the people downstairs are getting flooded, they'd like to come and talk to you and fix the problem, but after lots of approaches and not being heard, at some point the door is gonna get kicked in..." Yup, enough is enough and the powers at be need to fix this shit. | |||
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"I think it was Banksy who said this and I'm paraphrasing: Like if there's a broken pipe in your flat and the people downstairs are getting flooded, they'd like to come and talk to you and fix the problem, but after lots of approaches and not being heard, at some point the door is gonna get kicked in..." | |||
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"Why is it always "racism is bad, but looting and destruction of property have to stop" And never "looting and destruction of property is bad, but racism has to stop" ? " That's a very good question,alas I cannot answer it | |||
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"Looting and smashing cars up? So much for peaceful protest " It is called Anarchy. | |||
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"Looting and smashing cars up? So much for peaceful protest It is called Anarchy." The virus doesn't care what it's called | |||
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"I am not on Facebook, but Kaz showed me a post in which were 2 pictures. The top picture showed a line of people including Rosa Parks, linked arms walking with the caption under saying "This is a Protest." The bottom picture showed looting from shops in a USA city with the caption "This is violence." Sums up perfect for me. "  | |||
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"I think it was Banksy who said this and I'm paraphrasing: Like if there's a broken pipe in your flat and the people downstairs are getting flooded, they'd like to come and talk to you and fix the problem, but after lots of approaches and not being heard, at some point the door is gonna get kicked in..." It’s true and not advocating violence but many freedoms we take for granted - democracy, woman’s voting end of slavery - never came about just through taking. When people refuse to listen direct action is usually needed. But mindless violence is never justified | |||
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"What the hell is wrong with people violence and destruction of property makes you look just as bad or worse Don’t get me wrong everyone has the freedom of expression and to protest but I do believe there is no need for violence and two wrongs don’t make a right Everyone on this earth and in every country deserves to be treated equally no matter what your background and colour etc I believe that but come on now there is no need to start with mindless violence and destruction of property I don’t believe or condone racism on any front against any race that’s every race on the earth but also there is a line that shouldn’t be crossed in a protest or a demonstration and those minorities that cross that line are the ones who go to far and will be the ones who cause more problems for everyone Were already struggling the world over and this isn’t helping anyone Be piece full please make your point with words and banners not with force and violence your words are stronger than anything in the world and used right will always win over any force speak strong speak loud and keep the mindless violence at bay "Well said . If only it would come true | |||
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"I think it was Banksy who said this and I'm paraphrasing: Like if there's a broken pipe in your flat and the people downstairs are getting flooded, they'd like to come and talk to you and fix the problem, but after lots of approaches and not being heard, at some point the door is gonna get kicked in..." Indeed. | |||
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"I am not on Facebook, but Kaz showed me a post in which were 2 pictures. The top picture showed a line of people including Rosa Parks, linked arms walking with the caption under saying "This is a Protest." The bottom picture showed looting from shops in a USA city with the caption "This is violence." Sums up perfect for me. " You should also get him to show you the video of the woman in a wheelchair being assaulted, the guy getting suckerpunched then having his pockets rifled while he's unconcious on the ground and the guy who was set upon by a group who stamped on him, dropped shit on him and was then kicked in the head. Oh and the last guy died. All in the name of peaceful protest. BLM..yeah right  | |||
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"I think it was Banksy who said this and I'm paraphrasing: Like if there's a broken pipe in your flat and the people downstairs are getting flooded, they'd like to come and talk to you and fix the problem, but after lots of approaches and not being heard, at some point the door is gonna get kicked in..." That's a very pretty analogy, but how wet does a person have to be before they're allowed to bang the door down? I think BT are ripping me off but I'm not gonna shit through their letterbox now am I..... | |||
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"Why aren't the police using rubber bullets and water cannons against the scum rioting on the UK mainland? " Think there shit scared of been called racist. | |||
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"I think it was Banksy who said this and I'm paraphrasing: Like if there's a broken pipe in your flat and the people downstairs are getting flooded, they'd like to come and talk to you and fix the problem, but after lots of approaches and not being heard, at some point the door is gonna get kicked in... That's a very pretty analogy, but how wet does a person have to be before they're allowed to bang the door down? I think BT are ripping me off but I'm not gonna shit through their letterbox now am I..... "I think of it as people being oppressed and barely being able to keep their heads above that flood water. That it's impacting the very way they live. | |||
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"I think it was Banksy who said this and I'm paraphrasing: Like if there's a broken pipe in your flat and the people downstairs are getting flooded, they'd like to come and talk to you and fix the problem, but after lots of approaches and not being heard, at some point the door is gonna get kicked in... That's a very pretty analogy, but how wet does a person have to be before they're allowed to bang the door down? I think BT are ripping me off but I'm not gonna shit through their letterbox now am I..... "You strike me as a decent fella, from what you post, but if I was a betting man, I'd reckon you'd kick the door in when the time was right and enough was enough. I hear you re BT tho, British Gas and Thames Water are definitely taking the piss out of me, but I keep paying them. If they killed any of my family and friends I could see me kicking the door in... | |||
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"Why aren't the police using rubber bullets and water cannons against the scum rioting on the UK mainland? " Because it's a volatile situation, and tactics being used are trying to defuse rather than escalate. Plus let's remember that not all people in the streets are rioting. However! As for some of the comments above, I'm afraid I personally disagree. If you're promoting violence to achieve an ideal, youd better realise that others will follow suit, and it wont always be to achieve something you want to be part of. My experience? All these people wanting to get all war like, generally dont like it when it gets warlike! | |||
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"I am not on Facebook, but Kaz showed me a post in which were 2 pictures. The top picture showed a line of people including Rosa Parks, linked arms walking with the caption under saying "This is a Protest." The bottom picture showed looting from shops in a USA city with the caption "This is violence." Sums up perfect for me. You should also get him to show you the video of the woman in a wheelchair being assaulted, the guy getting suckerpunched then having his pockets rifled while he's unconcious on the ground and the guy who was set upon by a group who stamped on him, dropped shit on him and was then kicked in the head. Oh and the last guy died. All in the name of peaceful protest. BLM..yeah right "But the people rioting and looting aren’t in it for the peaceful protest, they are trouble makers looking for a fight and that takes over a peaceful protest and unfortunately people forget what it was for in the first place, then other people point fingers and go “ohh see there they go again” 
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"Our police are nothing like the Americans or many other countries over the world for that matter. A young black man summed it up perfectly on the news yesterday who was amist the peacefully protesting. People are losing sight of why they are protesting and unfortunately the black community will get the blame for the violence. A small minority will always ruin it for the genuine people. " Exactly | |||
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"Our police are nothing like the Americans or many other countries over the world for that matter. A young black man summed it up perfectly on the news yesterday who was amist the peacefully protesting. People are losing sight of why they are protesting and unfortunately the black community will get the blame for the violence. A small minority will always ruin it for the genuine people. "
I keep trying to say the same thing but got told it is fine to loot and vandalise . I also ask if it was their property / street / town getting defaced or vandalised would they still say the same
Looking at the Bristol one the people jumping on the statue once it was toppled looked manic. The London one yesterday all euphoric when a police rider was unseated and lay on the ground knocked out. Are they really there for the cause , I am not so sure
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"I think it was Banksy who said this and I'm paraphrasing: Like if there's a broken pipe in your flat and the people downstairs are getting flooded, they'd like to come and talk to you and fix the problem, but after lots of approaches and not being heard, at some point the door is gonna get kicked in... That's a very pretty analogy, but how wet does a person have to be before they're allowed to bang the door down? I think BT are ripping me off but I'm not gonna shit through their letterbox now am I.....
You strike me as a decent fella, from what you post, but if I was a betting man, I'd reckon you'd kick the door in when the time was right and enough was enough.
I hear you re BT tho, British Gas and Thames Water are definitely taking the piss out of me, but I keep paying them. If they killed any of my family and friends I could see me kicking the door in..."Haha, omg the utilities companies are criminal lololol. I'm not even remotely violent though, never have been, I've always used my mind and wit to solve my problems and I wish more ppl could try to do that and see violence as a genuine last resort. I just think ppl are letting their cause down, and what makes it worse is that I'm actually with them, so they're letting us ALL down, innit  | |||
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"Our police are nothing like the Americans or many other countries over the world for that matter. A young black man summed it up perfectly on the news yesterday who was amist the peacefully protesting. People are losing sight of why they are protesting and unfortunately the black community will get the blame for the violence. A small minority will always ruin it for the genuine people.
I keep trying to say the same thing but got told it is fine to loot and vandalise . I also ask if it was their property / street / town getting defaced or vandalised would they still say the same
Looking at the Bristol one the people jumping on the statue once it was toppled looked manic. The London one yesterday all euphoric when a police rider was unseated and lay on the ground knocked out. Are they really there for the cause , I am not so sure
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"Doubt any of the looters or rioters are on here reading this thread. " And this, just privileged sex starved nymphos looking for fame and praise, innit.... | |||
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No sign of trouble on a march I attended today and lots of social distancing too.  | |||
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"FYI: the Bristol statue pulled down (that I know of) was Edward colston.. who assisted with slave trade. Why that statue was still up is beyond me. Should we put up some jimmy savile statues since he had done so much for fund raising with charities. Oh wait... there was one and that was destroyed." Don't worry jim will fix it. | |||
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"What the hell is wrong with people violence and destruction of property makes you look just as bad or worse Don’t get me wrong everyone has the freedom of expression and to protest but I do believe there is no need for violence and two wrongs don’t make a right Everyone on this earth and in every country deserves to be treated equally no matter what your background and colour etc I believe that but come on now there is no need to start with mindless violence and destruction of property I don’t believe or condone racism on any front against any race that’s every race on the earth but also there is a line that shouldn’t be crossed in a protest or a demonstration and those minorities that cross that line are the ones who go to far and will be the ones who cause more problems for everyone Were already struggling the world over and this isn’t helping anyone Be piece full please make your point with words and banners not with force and violence your words are stronger than anything in the world and used right will always win over any force speak strong speak loud and keep the mindless violence at bay "switch the media off don't succumb to the bullshit problem ended   | |||
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"It is 2020, noone is allowed to say it is wrong whilst we all know it is, most of them are criminals who are just looking for a reason to riot." I would actually question how peaceful the "movement" is. | |||
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"FYI: the Bristol statue pulled down (that I know of) was Edward colston.. who assisted with slave trade. Why that statue was still up is beyond me. Should we put up some jimmy savile statues since he had done so much for fund raising with charities. Oh wait... there was one and that was destroyed." Let’s start burning all of the books that are about slavery and persecution so there is no more history that offends someone
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"FYI: the Bristol statue pulled down (that I know of) was Edward colston.. who assisted with slave trade. Why that statue was still up is beyond me. Should we put up some jimmy savile statues since he had done so much for fund raising with charities. Oh wait... there was one and that was destroyed. Let’s start burning all of the books that are about slavery and persecution so there is no more history that offends someone
They have just made a joke of the protest by smashing things up "... its almost like there are more than one way to preserve history. Statues are normally erected for people we admire. I dont see any Hitler statues around .... | |||
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"I think it was Banksy who said this and I'm paraphrasing: Like if there's a broken pipe in your flat and the people downstairs are getting flooded, they'd like to come and talk to you and fix the problem, but after lots of approaches and not being heard, at some point the door is gonna get kicked in... That's a very pretty analogy, but how wet does a person have to be before they're allowed to bang the door down? I think BT are ripping me off but I'm not gonna shit through their letterbox now am I.....
You strike me as a decent fella, from what you post, but if I was a betting man, I'd reckon you'd kick the door in when the time was right and enough was enough.
I hear you re BT tho, British Gas and Thames Water are definitely taking the piss out of me, but I keep paying them. If they killed any of my family and friends I could see me kicking the door in...
Haha, omg the utilities companies are criminal lololol. I'm not even remotely violent though, never have been, I've always used my mind and wit to solve my problems and I wish more ppl could try to do that and see violence as a genuine last resort. I just think ppl are letting their cause down, and what makes it worse is that I'm actually with them, so they're letting us ALL down, innit "I hear you mate... I don't like violence. It's a loss of control... | |||
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"Best wishes to the Police Officers injured yesterday. Hope they have a speedy recovery.
No sign of trouble on a march I attended today and lots of social distancing too. "There are some peaceful, respectful people. Lots of stories about decent people. | |||
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"I think it was Banksy who said this and I'm paraphrasing: Like if there's a broken pipe in your flat and the people downstairs are getting flooded, they'd like to come and talk to you and fix the problem, but after lots of approaches and not being heard, at some point the door is gonna get kicked in... It’s true and not advocating violence but many freedoms we take for granted - democracy, woman’s voting end of slavery - never came about just through taking. When people refuse to listen direct action is usually needed. But mindless violence is never justified " ^ I like those posts ^ If some Fabbers don't get overly sensitive when they can't handle the truth and get thread closed/removed I will pop back in later to expand on my thoughts... or I will find alternative threads. For the 100s that know me around the UK... #BlackLivesMatter With direct action their knees will be coming off necks! Believe that. #Peace | |||
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"FYI: the Bristol statue pulled down (that I know of) was Edward colston.. who assisted with slave trade. Why that statue was still up is beyond me. Should we put up some jimmy savile statues since he had done so much for fund raising with charities. Oh wait... there was one and that was destroyed. Let’s start burning all of the books that are about slavery and persecution so there is no more history that offends someone
They have just made a joke of the protest by smashing things up
... its almost like there are more than one way to preserve history.
Statues are normally erected for people we admire.
I dont see any Hitler statues around ...."Probably not in the U.K. 
But you just don’t wipe out history just because it’s not P.C
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"FYI: the Bristol statue pulled down (that I know of) was Edward colston.. who assisted with slave trade. Why that statue was still up is beyond me. Should we put up some jimmy savile statues since he had done so much for fund raising with charities. Oh wait... there was one and that was destroyed. Let’s start burning all of the books that are about slavery and persecution so there is no more history that offends someone
They have just made a joke of the protest by smashing things up
... its almost like there are more than one way to preserve history.
Statues are normally erected for people we admire.
I dont see any Hitler statues around ....
Probably not in the U.K.
But you just don’t wipe out history just because it’s not P.C
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"They might go after the statue of Cecil Rhodes." Heres hoping. | |||
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"I think it was Banksy who said this and I'm paraphrasing: Like if there's a broken pipe in your flat and the people downstairs are getting flooded, they'd like to come and talk to you and fix the problem, but after lots of approaches and not being heard, at some point the door is gonna get kicked in..." But surely, if you use that analogy, you kick in the doors of the entire community, not the doors of any US cops, destroy your own community and still have a broken pipe. | |||
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"Now defacing winston churchill statue...absolute scum and nothing to do with racism they just want to riot and loot free stuff. Send in the army "THEY?? | |||
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"Now defacing winston churchill statue...absolute scum and nothing to do with racism they just want to riot and loot free stuff. Send in the army THEY??"Yes they... the ones who are there | |||
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"Now defacing winston churchill statue...absolute scum and nothing to do with racism they just want to riot and loot free stuff. Send in the army THEY??"they /ðe?/ Learn to pronounce pronoun pronoun: they 1. used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned or easily identified. "the two men could get life sentences if they are convicted" 2. used to refer to a person of unspecified gender. "ask a friend if they could help" | |||
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since when did eye for an eye sort anything out? When did we value inanimate objects over human life? | |||
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"It's always the black that matters what about our own people.... If they'd stop killing each other then I might have a damn... No offence but its fact.... We never do protests for our own country so why gave a damn about another one... And America is the most popular crime Rant over... Sorry if I've offended anyone but we all have our own opinion "Huh? | |||
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"I don't normally give a shit what people protest about, all that walking about chanting with banners doesn't interest me no matter what the cause. It's the fact by protesting during a pandemic the message I'm hearing is no life matters. I can't help but think, why have the government allowed this to happen. It's now been proven black people have a higher death rate than whites. London being highly populated with black people. It's almost like they are leading the lambs to the slaughter and nobody is seeing it. Media pushing for protest. There is a good chance I won't be effected but I still care about the rest of the UK , for everyone. My heart sinks for drs and nurses when you see them crying because they are over worked, dying themselves and watching hundreds die every day . It must be horrific. " | |||
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"Now defacing winston churchill statue...absolute scum and nothing to do with racism they just want to riot and loot free stuff. Send in the army "Wait until you find out that Churchill was a White supremacist. | |||
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"Now defacing winston churchill statue...absolute scum and nothing to do with racism they just want to riot and loot free stuff. Send in the army
Wait until you find out that Churchill was a White supremacist. "Most white folk were in the '40's....  | |||
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it’s not good and will there then be another protest over that
We all stuck together and worked so hard during the lockdown and it’s still in effect yet now all our hard work dedication and sacrifice could be lost and more life’s lost when they could have been saved through no ones fault now but there own
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"What the hell is wrong with people violence and destruction of property makes you look just as bad or worse Don’t get me wrong everyone has the freedom of expression and to protest but I do believe there is no need for violence and two wrongs don’t make a right Everyone on this earth and in every country deserves to be treated equally no matter what your background and colour etc I believe that but come on now there is no need to start with mindless violence and destruction of property I don’t believe or condone racism on any front against any race that’s every race on the earth but also there is a line that shouldn’t be crossed in a protest or a demonstration and those minorities that cross that line are the ones who go to far and will be the ones who cause more problems for everyone Were already struggling the world over and this isn’t helping anyone Be piece full please make your point with words and banners not with force and violence your words are stronger than anything in the world and used right will always win over any force speak strong speak loud and keep the mindless violence at bay "Very well said. People who condone vandalism have no idea where these kinds of acts will lead to. | |||
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"What the hell is wrong with people violence and destruction of property makes you look just as bad or worse Don’t get me wrong everyone has the freedom of expression and to protest but I do believe there is no need for violence and two wrongs don’t make a right Everyone on this earth and in every country deserves to be treated equally no matter what your background and colour etc I believe that but come on now there is no need to start with mindless violence and destruction of property I don’t believe or condone racism on any front against any race that’s every race on the earth but also there is a line that shouldn’t be crossed in a protest or a demonstration and those minorities that cross that line are the ones who go to far and will be the ones who cause more problems for everyone Were already struggling the world over and this isn’t helping anyone Be piece full please make your point with words and banners not with force and violence your words are stronger than anything in the world and used right will always win over any force speak strong speak loud and keep the mindless violence at bay
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"What the hell is wrong with people violence and destruction of property makes you look just as bad or worse Don’t get me wrong everyone has the freedom of expression and to protest but I do believe there is no need for violence and two wrongs don’t make a right Everyone on this earth and in every country deserves to be treated equally no matter what your background and colour etc I believe that but come on now there is no need to start with mindless violence and destruction of property I don’t believe or condone racism on any front against any race that’s every race on the earth but also there is a line that shouldn’t be crossed in a protest or a demonstration and those minorities that cross that line are the ones who go to far and will be the ones who cause more problems for everyone Were already struggling the world over and this isn’t helping anyone Be piece full please make your point with words and banners not with force and violence your words are stronger than anything in the world and used right will always win over any force speak strong speak loud and keep the mindless violence at bay
Very well said. People who condone vandalism have no idea where these kinds of acts will lead to.
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"I support the principle of BLM, of course I do. In fact I don't know of a single person who has said that black lives don't matter, nobody that would be taken seriously at least. Bad policemen kill innocent people and they will rightly stand trial for their crimes. The problem with these mass demonstrations is that for the majority of people (yes the majority of people actually couldn't give a hoot about the colour of somebody's skin) it now feels like all the progress that has been made over the last few decades has apparently all been for nothing. These protests are actually causing division where there was none before and for some reason they all seem to have convinced themselves (or have been lead to believe) that nothing has changed since the 1800s" The problem isn't just bad policemen in the US. It's an inherent racist judicial system where policemen haven't been held accountable when victims are black. It's a legacy of slavery. And for you and quite a few people on here you believe that progress has been made and there isn't any division. However, many of us still feel hugely underepresented in the UK and it's clear when you look at the diversity in many areas of this society. Hence why people want their voices to be heard. | |||
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"It's always the black that matters what about our own people.... If they'd stop killing each other then I might have a damn... No offence but its fact.... We never do protests for our own country so why gave a damn about another one... And America is the most popular crime Rant over... Sorry if I've offended anyone but we all have our own opinion "Exactly who are ‘our own people’? | |||
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