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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour " thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people | |||
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"Black lives matter. Screaming ‘all lives matter’ is stupid. Imagine your child dying, you give a speech at their funeral and mention how special you are....and someone in the front row pipes up with ‘aren’t you going to mention MY child? He’s special! All children are special!’ It’s like going to race for life and having a go at people who are raising money for cancer research, because there’s other illnesses! They all matter!" *you mention how special your child is | |||
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"It happened in America. I don't see what protesting in London is achieving. " Because people are showing solidarity for others, it idoesn't matter where the brutality happened, and that is one thing in a long line of bigger issues. As a global society challenging racism and standing up for what is right is something we should stand up for. | |||
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"It happened in America. I don't see what protesting in London is achieving. " Because it is showing awareness | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people " That’s where you are completely wrong do you know black people have to make sure the destinations they have to go to on holiday are safe | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people That’s where you are completely wrong do you know black people have to make sure the destinations they have to go to on holiday are safe " are you serious | |||
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"I think the mass demonstrations in the present climate are wrong. In normal circumstances, if there was no pandemic, then fine but it’s not normal circumstances and gathering in large groups is in my opinion selfish as fuck. I feel the same way about those going to beaches or gathering for V.E Day parties. " Australia went to court and managed to ban the protest due to the possible spread of the coronavirus | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people That’s where you are completely wrong do you know black people have to make sure the destinations they have to go to on holiday are safe are you serious " Do you not think white people have to watch where they go on holiday to  . Parts of south africa no go areas for whites etc infact parts of birmingham and bradford are no go areas for whites if you want to get closer to home . Give your head a wobble op your being taken in by media bullshit sorry | |||
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"It happened in America. I don't see what protesting in London is achieving. Because it is showing awareness " We all saw it on social media. We are aware. Gathering in large crowds during a pandemic and causing damage to the war memorial in London. What's that all about? They men fought and died to give you the Britain we have today. The one where all are welcome and have freedom of speech. Spreading the virus when our doctors and nurses are sacrificing their lives on duty to save us, the people that have been prisoners in their own homes, the people who have died before their time, the worry of a second wave when we have already lost so much, the economic damage caused by this. Does their life's and sacrifices for our country not matter.Obviously not when one black man is murdered in another country. | |||
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"There should be no place in the world that should be no go to another. We should learn to love each other just the same. We all breathe the same air and have red blood. I walked into a shop in a wealth part of London, I white lady said why are they allowing these people in the shop. Place her shopping basket down and walked out in anger. That's why there is protest here. " I was attacked in birmingham by 3 asian men in an audi over a parking space one spat on me one pushed me over the bonnet of my car and screamed in my face " you dont even fucking belong here bitch" . Would you like to start a protest over it ? Cus the police were not interested even though i had their registration and witnesses? Guess that wasnt a racist attack hey ? Just putting woman in there place because its seen as the norm? . | |||
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"There should be no place in the world that should be no go to another. We should learn to love each other just the same. We all breathe the same air and have red blood. I walked into a shop in a wealth part of London, I white lady said why are they allowing these people in the shop. Place her shopping basket down and walked out in anger. That's why there is protest here. " Actions like that make me angry and if I had been there would possibly of derided her actions and her publicly. | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people " you obviously haven't a clue what you are talking about! Do me a favour and do some research and look back throughout history how ethnic minorities especially black have been mistreated because of the colour of their skin. | |||
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"It happened in America. I don't see what protesting in London is achieving. Because it is showing awareness We all saw it on social media. We are aware. Gathering in large crowds during a pandemic and causing damage to the war memorial in London. What's that all about? They men fought and died to give you the Britain we have today. The one where all are welcome and have freedom of speech. Spreading the virus when our doctors and nurses are sacrificing their lives on duty to save us, the people that have been prisoners in their own homes, the people who have died before their time, the worry of a second wave when we have already lost so much, the economic damage caused by this. Does their life's and sacrifices for our country not matter.Obviously not when one black man is murdered in another country. " Well said DM. | |||
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"So many people saying all lives matter totally missing the point of black lives matter, go educate yourselves " yes this. So frustrating! | |||
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"There should be no place in the world that should be no go to another. We should learn to love each other just the same. We all breathe the same air and have red blood. I walked into a shop in a wealth part of London, I white lady said why are they allowing these people in the shop. Place her shopping basket down and walked out in anger. That's why there is protest here. I was attacked in birmingham by 3 asian men in an audi over a parking space one spat on me one pushed me over the bonnet of my car and screamed in my face " you dont even fucking belong here bitch" . Would you like to start a protest over it ? Cus the police were not interested even though i had their registration and witnesses? Guess that wasnt a racist attack hey ? Just putting woman in there place because its seen as the norm? ." Asian men? If it's about colour, the neither should they. If it's about women , then I don't welcome anyone to our country that doesn't live by our rules. We are all equal. | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people " You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people you obviously haven't a clue what you are talking about! Do me a favour and do some research and look back throughout history how ethnic minorities especially black have been mistreated because of the colour of their skin. " | |||
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"All lives matter!" No they don’t | |||
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"Black lives do matter and the movement exists because they appear to matter less to some people than other lives. Only when racism is dead does the 'all lives matter' bollocks have a place. Those preaching 'all lives matter' really need to go and acknowledge, understand and accept their white privelige. " If anyone needs help on the white privelige thing here is how I understand it... I have been been treated less favourably because of the colour of my skin. Its not difficult. | |||
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"Black lives do matter and the movement exists because they appear to matter less to some people than other lives. Only when racism is dead does the 'all lives matter' bollocks have a place. Those preaching 'all lives matter' really need to go and acknowledge, understand and accept their white privelige. " It’s not only just white people saying it though unfortunately. But I agree with you 100%, if they don’t understand how stupid ‘all lives matter!’ is, google is their friend and they can educate themselves. | |||
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"My main take on it is that I support the cause completely. I lose respect for those who say 'but all lives matter' and have contempt for those who derail it with 'white lives matter' and tails of their own prejudices. Let's be clear here black lives matter in no way detracts from our rights. We aren't going to lose anything here and nothing screams white privilege more than trying to distract from or derail a campaign for equality by portraying it as an attack on white lives matter. Not one of those protesters is saying only black lives matter." If the slogan was " black lives matter as well" then people wouldn't say "all lives matter" they would just agree. It's just how the slogan is being read and a lot of anger bubbling out. | |||
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"Black lives matter. Screaming ‘all lives matter’ is stupid. Imagine your child dying, you give a speech at their funeral and mention how special you are....and someone in the front row pipes up with ‘aren’t you going to mention MY child? He’s special! All children are special!’ It’s like going to race for life and having a go at people who are raising money for cancer research, because there’s other illnesses! They all matter! *you mention how special your child is" ‘I like this book’ Well that’s stupid CAUSE ALL BOOK ARE GOOD | |||
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"So many people saying all lives matter totally missing the point of black lives matter, go educate yourselves yes this. So frustrating! " That’s why I try to avoid these threads, People can’t stop and actually listen for once | |||
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"What is people’s theory on this subject " Of course Black lives matter. What do you mean theory on this? Yank cops shot, injure maim and kill a larger percentage of blacks than any other race. This is why people are trying to get the message into the thick meat heads of those barely trained Roid addicted police over there to be aware that every race is part of the human race. | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter. "Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant | |||
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"Hey only white people can be racists " Any race can be racist. Ut white people have the power due to the ugly history of slavery and ku klux klan, nazism and any other white supremacist behaviour. Sociogically speaking can the oppressed become the oppressors? In real terms. When a whole system is institutionally oppressing a race, can they ever really become the oppressors? | |||
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"For anyone who thinks Black or other people of colour can be racist I will quote the incredible character Sam White from “Dear White People” “ Black people can't be racist. Prejudice, yes, but not racist. Racism describes a system of disadvantage based on race. Black people can't be racist since we don't stand to benefit from such a system.” Is xenophobia and prejudice a problem? Yes. Is it racism? No" Anyone, of any and every race can be racist. Just because you quote a character from a tv show does not mean you have provided a fact. | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant "Lives* Okay my life don't matter then | |||
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"Hey only white people can be racists Any race can be racist. Ut white people have the power due to the ugly history of slavery and ku klux klan, nazism and any other white supremacist behaviour. Sociogically speaking can the oppressed become the oppressors? In real terms. When a whole system is institutionally oppressing a race, can they ever really become the oppressors?" Yes that can happen. | |||
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"For anyone who thinks Black or other people of colour can be racist I will quote the incredible character Sam White from “Dear White People” “ Black people can't be racist. Prejudice, yes, but not racist. Racism describes a system of disadvantage based on race. Black people can't be racist since we don't stand to benefit from such a system.” Is xenophobia and prejudice a problem? Yes. Is it racism? No" Yes!!!!! I need to look at this example further. Thank you for sharing | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people you obviously haven't a clue what you are talking about! Do me a favour and do some research and look back throughout history how ethnic minorities especially black have been mistreated because of the colour of their skin. " History  pmsl so we still have black people as slaves in the uk now do we ? Get a grip were talking about whats going on today not 100 years ago | |||
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"What is people’s theory on this subject " Who needs a theory? It's simply a true statement. Sadly there is a significant (though hopefully getting reducing) number of people who disagree. | |||
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"Black lives do matter and the movement exists because they appear to matter less to some people than other lives. Only when racism is dead does the 'all lives matter' bollocks have a place. Those preaching 'all lives matter' really need to go and acknowledge, understand and accept their white privelige. It’s not only just white people saying it though unfortunately. But I agree with you 100%, if they don’t understand how stupid ‘all lives matter!’ is, google is their friend and they can educate themselves. " True. But then some women arent feminists...... | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant
Lives*
Okay my life don't matter then "Yeah that’s EXACTLY what I said | |||
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"Black lives do matter and the movement exists because they appear to matter less to some people than other lives. Only when racism is dead does the 'all lives matter' bollocks have a place. Those preaching 'all lives matter' really need to go and acknowledge, understand and accept their white privelige. It’s not only just white people saying it though unfortunately. But I agree with you 100%, if they don’t understand how stupid ‘all lives matter!’ is, google is their friend and they can educate themselves. True. But then some women arent feminists...... " That baffles me as well | |||
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"Black lives do matter and the movement exists because they appear to matter less to some people than other lives. Only when racism is dead does the 'all lives matter' bollocks have a place. Those preaching 'all lives matter' really need to go and acknowledge, understand and accept their white privelige. It’s not only just white people saying it though unfortunately. But I agree with you 100%, if they don’t understand how stupid ‘all lives matter!’ is, google is their friend and they can educate themselves. True. But then some women arent feminists...... That baffles me as well" And me my lovely!! | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant
Lives*
Okay my life don't matter then "Get a grip. At what point does ‘black lives matter’ say anything to do with white people? | |||
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"What is people’s theory on this subject " All Lives Matter. | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant
Lives*
Okay my life don't matter then
Get a grip. At what point does ‘black lives matter’ say anything to do with white people?
"Us white people just HAVE to find a way to make everything about us | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant
Lives*
Okay my life don't matter then
Get a grip. At what point does ‘black lives matter’ say anything to do with white people?
Us white people just HAVE to find a way to make everything about us "Blows my mind how fragile some people are that they can’t bear to see another group being empowered. | |||
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"Hey only white people can be racists Any race can be racist. Ut white people have the power due to the ugly history of slavery and ku klux klan, nazism and any other white supremacist behaviour. Sociogically speaking can the oppressed become the oppressors? In real terms. When a whole system is institutionally oppressing a race, can they ever really become the oppressors? Yes that can happen." Examples please. Of where an oppressed race has over come the oppressive system of institutional racism and has then that group has systematically and institutionally racially oppressed the group that once oppressed them... | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant
Lives*
Okay my life don't matter then "How do you conclude that your life doesn't matter? | |||
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"Black lives do matter and the movement exists because they appear to matter less to some people than other lives. Only when racism is dead does the 'all lives matter' bollocks have a place. Those preaching 'all lives matter' really need to go and acknowledge, understand and accept their white privelige. " Well said.... We don't realise how priveliged we are because we've never been in a position where we have been judged or disadvantaged against for the colour of our skin, we were given a head start in life just for being white and It's about time we stood as global citizens to say it's not right to challenge the prejudices and racism. And to those saying it is one black man.... doesn't matter if it's 1 or 1,000.... The issues go deeper than that and you don't need to go that far back in history to see why... | |||
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"Black lives do matter and the movement exists because they appear to matter less to some people than other lives. Only when racism is dead does the 'all lives matter' bollocks have a place. Those preaching 'all lives matter' really need to go and acknowledge, understand and accept their white privelige. Well said.... We don't realise how priveliged we are because we've never been in a position where we have been judged or disadvantaged against for the colour of our skin, we were given a head start in life just for being white and It's about time we stood as global citizens to say it's not right to challenge the prejudices and racism. And to those saying it is one black man.... doesn't matter if it's 1 or 1,000.... The issues go deeper than that and you don't need to go that far back in history to see why... " We’ll never understand, but we can stand with you | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant
Lives*
Okay my life don't matter then
Get a grip. At what point does ‘black lives matter’ say anything to do with white people?
"All lives matter. People saying they don't are only taking the piss. | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant
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Okay my life don't matter then "Why you making this about you ? | |||
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"What is people’s theory on this subject All Lives Matter." | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant
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Okay my life don't matter then
Why you making this about you ?"Cause us white folk matter!!!!!!! | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant
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Why you making this about you ?"It's about all of us on this thread. All of our lives matter. | |||
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"https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime It’s important to note that black men commit nearly half of all murders in this country, which is astounding when you take into consideration the fact that they only make up 12-13 per cent of the population.”" If I lived in a place where this happened, I'd be racist too. Or judge a book by its cover | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant
Lives*
Okay my life don't matter then
Get a grip. At what point does ‘black lives matter’ say anything to do with white people?
All lives matter. People saying they don't are only taking the piss. "Does supporting black lives matter not reinforce that all lives matter? How can all lives matter if you dont recognize that black lives matter | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here "Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race | |||
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"Seriously, if you don’t understand the concept of black lives matter and your first reaction is all lives matter, you’re not trying hard enough. It’s not always about you, go read up, it’s really not that difficult" | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people That’s where you are completely wrong do you know black people have to make sure the destinations they have to go to on holiday are safe " Please show a link for this comment. | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant
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Okay my life don't matter then
Why you making this about you ?
It's about all of us on this thread. All of our lives matter.
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race "Exactly. | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race "Lee Rigbys family have asked for him to stop being brought up during any Black Lives Matter debates because they believe in BLM  | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race "The protests have been promoted by *police* killing black people. Whilst yes, anybody being murdered is bad and we should try to reduce violence in society, its not unreasonable to protest that the damn police be held to a higher standard. Really helps understand a situation if you pay attention. | |||
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"What is people’s theory on this subject " All lives matter ! We shouldn’t live in a black and white world we should live as humans one race that stick together !  | |||
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"When black lives finally matter then all lives will finally matter. Sorry to see that do many people still don’t get it. " | |||
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"There should be no place in the world that should be no go to another. We should learn to love each other just the same. We all breathe the same air and have red blood. I walked into a shop in a wealth part of London, I white lady said why are they allowing these people in the shop. Place her shopping basket down and walked out in anger. That's why there is protest here. I was attacked in birmingham by 3 asian men in an audi over a parking space one spat on me one pushed me over the bonnet of my car and screamed in my face " you dont even fucking belong here bitch" . Would you like to start a protest over it ? Cus the police were not interested even though i had their registration and witnesses? Guess that wasnt a racist attack hey ? Just putting woman in there place because its seen as the norm? . Asian men? If it's about colour, the neither should they. If it's about women , then I don't welcome anyone to our country that doesn't live by our rules. We are all equal. " We aren't equal though, we are individual..... And we should be treated as so. We should be treated individually and fairly There in lies the issue, some sections of society are are not | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race "Lee Rigby. You mean the poor soul whose death the far right continually use stir up their racist agenda despite repeated requests from his fsmily to not disrespect his memory in such a way? Also Tommeh was straight down to london causing shit and hatred the very day it happened | |||
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"It happened in America. I don't see what protesting in London is achieving. Because it is showing awareness We all saw it on social media. We are aware. Gathering in large crowds during a pandemic and causing damage to the war memorial in London. What's that all about? They men fought and died to give you the Britain we have today. The one where all are welcome and have freedom of speech. Spreading the virus when our doctors and nurses are sacrificing their lives on duty to save us, the people that have been prisoners in their own homes, the people who have died before their time, the worry of a second wave when we have already lost so much, the economic damage caused by this. Does their life's and sacrifices for our country not matter.Obviously not when one black man is murdered in another country. Well said DM." | |||
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"Using Lee Rigby as a comparison is not only miles away from a true comparison, it’s in bad taste. And if you want to know why, read the comments made by the Rigby family about it "Exactly | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people That’s where you are completely wrong do you know black people have to make sure the destinations they have to go to on holiday are safe Please show a link for this comment. " As does everyone | |||
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"For anyone who thinks Black or other people of colour can be racist I will quote the incredible character Sam White from “Dear White People” “ Black people can't be racist. Prejudice, yes, but not racist. Racism describes a system of disadvantage based on race. Black people can't be racist since we don't stand to benefit from such a system.” Is xenophobia and prejudice a problem? Yes. Is it racism? No Anyone, of any and every race can be racist. Just because you quote a character from a tv show does not mean you have provided a fact." Come on, I used that quote because it’s the example that puts it in the most simple terms. Only white people stand to benefit from white supremacy, the mechanism to uphold it is racism. Therefore Black people and any other person of colour is not being racist if they say or do something against your race. They are being prejudiced or xenophobic. Words are important, they mean different things. | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race "Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked..... George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched | |||
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"Having worked in America for a short while many years back, it was apparent to me that there is a huge segregation of classes in society, particularly separated by wealth. Eg. In SoCal, Mexicans are seen as the poor burden of society. In UK, we are much more integrated. However, in the very rural areas, I still observe ignorant racial behaviour, and it's mainly through a lack of cultural education of white British. Going back to the point, making a martyr out of Floyd or wearing a #blacklivesmatter does diddly squat. Encouraging governmental policy change around specific racial equality is what is more significant." Mostly true. However rhe more non black people who show support for the blacks the better, hance the t shirt, slogan etc is a way to show unity on this matter. | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Lee Rigby. You mean the poor soul whose death the far right continually use stir up their racist agenda despite repeated requests from his fsmily to not disrespect his memory in such a way?
Also Tommeh was straight down to london causing shit and hatred the very day it happened "Just as the rioters and some protestors in america and the uk are doing now you mean?? Stirring up hate a racial tension ?? But its acceptable in these circumstances is it ?? | |||
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"For anyone who thinks Black or other people of colour can be racist I will quote the incredible character Sam White from “Dear White People” “ Black people can't be racist. Prejudice, yes, but not racist. Racism describes a system of disadvantage based on race. Black people can't be racist since we don't stand to benefit from such a system.” Is xenophobia and prejudice a problem? Yes. Is it racism? No Anyone, of any and every race can be racist. Just because you quote a character from a tv show does not mean you have provided a fact. Come on, I used that quote because it’s the example that puts it in the most simple terms. Only white people stand to benefit from white supremacy, the mechanism to uphold it is racism. Therefore Black people and any other person of colour is not being racist if they say or do something against your race. They are being prejudiced or xenophobic. Words are important, they mean different things. " You disagree that anyone of any race can be racist? Also the quote you procided says they are not being racist they are being xenophobic to me that part makes no sense. | |||
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"Using Lee Rigby as a comparison is not only miles away from a true comparison, it’s in bad taste. And if you want to know why, read the comments made by the Rigby family about it
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"Having worked in America for a short while many years back, it was apparent to me that there is a huge segregation of classes in society, particularly separated by wealth. Eg. In SoCal, Mexicans are seen as the poor burden of society. In UK, we are much more integrated. However, in the very rural areas, I still observe ignorant racial behaviour, and it's mainly through a lack of cultural education of white British. Going back to the point, making a martyr out of Floyd or wearing a #blacklivesmatter does diddly squat. Encouraging governmental policy change around specific racial equality is what is more significant. Mostly true. However rhe more non black people who show support for the blacks the better, hance the t shirt, slogan etc is a way to show unity on this matter." I don't discriminate, but my friends in South Africa might have a different opinion on behaviours of the Black community. Certainly not what Mandela stood up for. | |||
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"DM100 and _reatformeat. What you experience was horrible and wrong. I preach to love each other One love my sisters " I haven't experienced any wrong doing by anyone and treat every one as individuals. Some characters aren't as nice as others but I'll always make my mind up based on that person's persona. | |||
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant
Lives*
Okay my life don't matter then
Get a grip. At what point does ‘black lives matter’ say anything to do with white people?
All lives matter. People saying they don't are only taking the piss.
Does supporting black lives matter not reinforce that all lives matter?
How can all lives matter if you dont recognize that black lives matter"Of course I recognise that black lives matter as do all lives matter | |||
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"Hey only white people can be racists Any race can be racist. Ut white people have the power due to the ugly history of slavery and ku klux klan, nazism and any other white supremacist behaviour. Sociogically speaking can the oppressed become the oppressors? In real terms. When a whole system is institutionally oppressing a race, can they ever really become the oppressors? Yes that can happen. Examples please. Of where an oppressed race has over come the oppressive system of institutional racism and has then that group has systematically and institutionally racially oppressed the group that once oppressed them... " Zimbabwe is not an example, as was dm to me. If that was the case why have tens of thousands of black Zimbabweans had to fell Politicol asylum during this reversal of the syst you speak of. White farmers where right removed from land they had sten from black Zimbabweans. | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
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"Having worked in America for a short while many years back, it was apparent to me that there is a huge segregation of classes in society, particularly separated by wealth. Eg. In SoCal, Mexicans are seen as the poor burden of society. In UK, we are much more integrated. However, in the very rural areas, I still observe ignorant racial behaviour, and it's mainly through a lack of cultural education of white British. Going back to the point, making a martyr out of Floyd or wearing a #blacklivesmatter does diddly squat. Encouraging governmental policy change around specific racial equality is what is more significant. Mostly true. However rhe more non black people who show support for the blacks the better, hance the t shirt, slogan etc is a way to show unity on this matter. I don't discriminate, but my friends in South Africa might have a different opinion on behaviours of the Black community. Certainly not what Mandela stood up for." killing white people for the hell of it you mean? Say it how it is | |||
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"Long read: In 1995 a friend of mine was a senior stewardess working for British Airways. Though she had been to Americaon turn-around flights she had never stayed over in America. One weekend she was told that the flight she was on would lay-over for two nights so enjoy your stay in LA. She stayed with and American Airlines Stewardess in Downtown LA and in the evening she said come on we are all going out to a Bar but . . . Stephanie . . . listen to me very very carefully . . . if at any time we have an interaction with a police officer at no time do you ever turn your back, walk away or fail to answer their questions. Never put your hands behind your back, in fact keep them a little out to the side with the palms pointing toward the officer. If you are walking away and an officer calls you from behind to stop - stop and put you hands in the air - do not turn around quickly or it's likely he will shoot you, do not carry on walking it's likely he will shoot you. Do not run he will shoot you dead!! Nothing much has changed really has it. " I am white and when i was in the US i was nervy of the cops and i was doing nothing wrong. I think the cops in Yankeeland and badly trained, and trigger happy. No wonder people over there dont trust and are afraid of those meant to protect them. | |||
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"Poor little sheep with no minds of their own let’s just copy what’s going on in America and the news! When they all catch covid 19 from the mass protests they can blame Boris and the government for catching it !!" You don’t have to go to a protest to support BLM | |||
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"Having worked in America for a short while many years back, it was apparent to me that there is a huge segregation of classes in society, particularly separated by wealth. Eg. In SoCal, Mexicans are seen as the poor burden of society. In UK, we are much more integrated. However, in the very rural areas, I still observe ignorant racial behaviour, and it's mainly through a lack of cultural education of white British. Going back to the point, making a martyr out of Floyd or wearing a #blacklivesmatter does diddly squat. Encouraging governmental policy change around specific racial equality is what is more significant. Mostly true. However rhe more non black people who show support for the blacks the better, hance the t shirt, slogan etc is a way to show unity on this matter. I don't discriminate, but my friends in South Africa might have a different opinion on behaviours of the Black community. Certainly not what Mandela stood up for. killing white people for the hell of it you mean? Say it how it is "For the hell of it! Perhaps they want their property and land back. You know the property and land that was stolen in brutal fashion by.. oh white folk. | |||
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"For anyone who thinks Black or other people of colour can be racist I will quote the incredible character Sam White from “Dear White People” “ Black people can't be racist. Prejudice, yes, but not racist. Racism describes a system of disadvantage based on race. Black people can't be racist since we don't stand to benefit from such a system.” Is xenophobia and prejudice a problem? Yes. Is it racism? No Anyone, of any and every race can be racist. Just because you quote a character from a tv show does not mean you have provided a fact. Come on, I used that quote because it’s the example that puts it in the most simple terms. Only white people stand to benefit from white supremacy, the mechanism to uphold it is racism. Therefore Black people and any other person of colour is not being racist if they say or do something against your race. They are being prejudiced or xenophobic. Words are important, they mean different things. You disagree that anyone of any race can be racist? Also the quote you procided says they are not being racist they are being xenophobic to me that part makes no sense." I am literally saying it’s impossible for anyone other than white people to benefit from racism so they are the only people who can be racist. If you don’t understand, google prejudice, xenophobia and systemic racism. | |||
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"Having worked in America for a short while many years back, it was apparent to me that there is a huge segregation of classes in society, particularly separated by wealth. Eg. In SoCal, Mexicans are seen as the poor burden of society. In UK, we are much more integrated. However, in the very rural areas, I still observe ignorant racial behaviour, and it's mainly through a lack of cultural education of white British. Going back to the point, making a martyr out of Floyd or wearing a #blacklivesmatter does diddly squat. Encouraging governmental policy change around specific racial equality is what is more significant. Mostly true. However rhe more non black people who show support for the blacks the better, hance the t shirt, slogan etc is a way to show unity on this matter. I don't discriminate, but my friends in South Africa might have a different opinion on behaviours of the Black community. Certainly not what Mandela stood up for. killing white people for the hell of it you mean? Say it how it is
For the hell of it!
Perhaps they want their property and land back.
You know the property and land that was stolen in brutal fashion by.. oh white folk.
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"So many people saying all lives matter totally missing the point of black lives matter, go educate yourselves " Ignorance is truly bliss. | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
The police would have shot them if they came over."The other police should have stopped it. Are they so fucking ignorant and badly trained that they think kneeling on someones neck is a good idea. It is not a good idea at any time. Unless you want to kill that person. Anyway i am getting off this thread now. I woke up in a good mood, happy and hornt now found myself in a debate with ignorant people. All lives matter. In america Black people are continuing to have trouble with over zealous badly trained police so for the time being they want and appear to need to remind them that Black lives matter. Have a good weekend ams stay safe eceryone. | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
The police would have shot them if they came over."Exactly so, but just making the point that there is no comparison between Rigby and Floyd. | |||
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"Black lives do matter and the movement exists because they appear to matter less to some people than other lives. Only when racism is dead does the 'all lives matter' bollocks have a place. Those preaching 'all lives matter' really need to go and acknowledge, understand and accept their white privelige. You are so bang on " | |||
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"For anyone who thinks Black or other people of colour can be racist I will quote the incredible character Sam White from “Dear White People” “ Black people can't be racist. Prejudice, yes, but not racist. Racism describes a system of disadvantage based on race. Black people can't be racist since we don't stand to benefit from such a system.” Is xenophobia and prejudice a problem? Yes. Is it racism? No Anyone, of any and every race can be racist. Just because you quote a character from a tv show does not mean you have provided a fact. Come on, I used that quote because it’s the example that puts it in the most simple terms. Only white people stand to benefit from white supremacy, the mechanism to uphold it is racism. Therefore Black people and any other person of colour is not being racist if they say or do something against your race. They are being prejudiced or xenophobic. Words are important, they mean different things. You disagree that anyone of any race can be racist? Also the quote you procided says they are not being racist they are being xenophobic to me that part makes no sense. I am literally saying it’s impossible for anyone other than white people to benefit from racism so they are the only people who can be racist. If you don’t understand, google prejudice, xenophobia and systemic racism." And I again am saying anyone of any race can be racist. We can back and forth on that for eternity. | |||
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"Having worked in America for a short while many years back, it was apparent to me that there is a huge segregation of classes in society, particularly separated by wealth. Eg. In SoCal, Mexicans are seen as the poor burden of society. In UK, we are much more integrated. However, in the very rural areas, I still observe ignorant racial behaviour, and it's mainly through a lack of cultural education of white British. Going back to the point, making a martyr out of Floyd or wearing a #blacklivesmatter does diddly squat. Encouraging governmental policy change around specific racial equality is what is more significant. Mostly true. However rhe more non black people who show support for the blacks the better, hance the t shirt, slogan etc is a way to show unity on this matter. I don't discriminate, but my friends in South Africa might have a different opinion on behaviours of the Black community. Certainly not what Mandela stood up for. killing white people for the hell of it you mean? Say it how it is
For the hell of it!
Perhaps they want their property and land back.
You know the property and land that was stolen in brutal fashion by.. oh white folk.
similar to the Zimbabwe example that was given "Some people want birmingham and bradford back but again thats differant . Some of these areas are no go for whites after dark . You people spouting crap need to get in the real world . Sorry if offend some people im not a racist i just dont look at the world through rose tinted glasses race hate excist in every culture so why are whites particurly singled out for this horendous crime ? | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
"Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts. | |||
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"For anyone who thinks Black or other people of colour can be racist I will quote the incredible character Sam White from “Dear White People” “ Black people can't be racist. Prejudice, yes, but not racist. Racism describes a system of disadvantage based on race. Black people can't be racist since we don't stand to benefit from such a system.” Is xenophobia and prejudice a problem? Yes. Is it racism? No Anyone, of any and every race can be racist. Just because you quote a character from a tv show does not mean you have provided a fact. Come on, I used that quote because it’s the example that puts it in the most simple terms. Only white people stand to benefit from white supremacy, the mechanism to uphold it is racism. Therefore Black people and any other person of colour is not being racist if they say or do something against your race. They are being prejudiced or xenophobic. Words are important, they mean different things. You disagree that anyone of any race can be racist? Also the quote you procided says they are not being racist they are being xenophobic to me that part makes no sense. I am literally saying it’s impossible for anyone other than white people to benefit from racism so they are the only people who can be racist. If you don’t understand, google prejudice, xenophobia and systemic racism. And I again am saying anyone of any race can be racist. We can back and forth on that for eternity." That is right noone is mentioning the farmers in south afrika. | |||
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"Hey only white people can be racists Any race can be racist. Ut white people have the power due to the ugly history of slavery and ku klux klan, nazism and any other white supremacist behaviour. Sociogically speaking can the oppressed become the oppressors? In real terms. When a whole system is institutionally oppressing a race, can they ever really become the oppressors? Yes that can happen. Examples please. Of where an oppressed race has over come the oppressive system of institutional racism and has then that group has systematically and institutionally racially oppressed the group that once oppressed them... Zimbabwe is not an example, as was dm to me. If that was the case why have tens of thousands of black Zimbabweans had to fell Politicol asylum during this reversal of the syst you speak of. White farmers where right removed from land they had sten from black Zimbabweans. " You will find Zimbabwe is a case..research it there is also tribal issues in Zimbabwe which is what caused lots of the minority tribe to flee..its the same in South Africa. People get little knowledge and suddenly are experts... | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
The police would have shot them if they came over.
The other police should have stopped it.
Are they so fucking ignorant and badly trained that they think kneeling on someones neck is a good idea.
It is not a good idea at any time.
Unless you want to kill that person.
Anyway i am getting off this thread now. I woke up in a good mood, happy and hornt now found myself in a debate with ignorant people.
All lives matter.
In america Black people are continuing to have trouble with over zealous badly trained police so for the time being they want and appear to need to remind them that Black lives matter.
Have a good weekend ams stay safe eceryone."There was a 75 year old white man assaulted by police at a demo earlier this week. The 2 officers responsible were suspended so his 87 (yes 87) colleagues resigned. I think we are a long way off seeing American police call out their colleagues behaviour | |||
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"Yes I am serious this is what goes on in the world and people are so unaware of these aspects " So politically no. All governments have a duty to protect all life. However as someone who is brown, I would think many times over before going somewhere that I know has had racial tensions. For example I am pretty certain I would not be made welcome in certain parts of Russia and Eastern Europe. | |||
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"I think the mass demonstrations in the present climate are wrong. In normal circumstances, if there was no pandemic, then fine but it’s not normal circumstances and gathering in large groups is in my opinion selfish as fuck. I feel the same way about those going to beaches or gathering for V.E Day parties. Australia went to court and managed to ban the protest due to the possible spread of the coronavirus " In Theory I agree protesting at this time is dangerous especially for BAME communities. However at what point do we lose our freedoms out of fear? Donald Trump is clearly using this to destroy as much of the constitution as he can and to become more authoritarian like | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts. "No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street Cannot believe what you are saying there... | |||
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"Yay " lol it must be like Groundhog Day for you. I have no idea how you find the patience to keep having this conversation and so calmly and eloquently too Big respect and good luck | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
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"I don't get it. Surely all lived matter.
Google is your friend, educate yourself or stay ignorant
Lives*
Okay my life don't matter then
Get a grip. At what point does ‘black lives matter’ say anything to do with white people?
"I agree. All lives matter, however not all lives have been oppressed equally. By saying all lives matter I agree with you that you are drowning out the voices of ethnic minority groups and not listening to them, just adding a louder voice rather than bigger ears | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
The police have all been charged, what more do you want?
For George Floyd not to be dead "My jaw is on the floor that you just said that. I want racisim not to exist. | |||
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"infact parts of birmingham and bradford are no go areas for whites if you want to get closer to home . Give your head a wobble op your being taken in by media bullshit sorry" Says the woman who's watched too much fox news.  | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
The police have all been charged, what more do you want?
For George Floyd not to be dead "Such is life, it happens everywhere by all races. In a perfect world nobody would be killed at the hands of another. | |||
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"Poor little sheep with no minds of their own let’s just copy what’s going on in America and the news! When they all catch covid 19 from the mass protests they can blame Boris and the government for catching it !!" I think the sheep here are the ones that cry all lives matter and are oblivious to the fact racism is very still a plague in the world. It’s not ideal timing, there is a pandemic. When there is a vaccine for Covid, and the pandemic is over, racism will still exist. It’s a pandemic in its own right except there is no vaccine. Only change will stop it. | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
The police have all been charged, what more do you want?
For George Floyd not to be dead
Such is life, it happens everywhere by all races. In a perfect world nobody would be killed at the hands of another. "Oh my god. I am appalled at your flippant attitude about this. Let's all fuck Lockdown off shall we cos what does it matter if a few people die of corona - such is life! | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
The police have all been charged, what more do you want?
For George Floyd not to be dead
My jaw is on the floor that you just said that.
I want racisim not to exist. "One day it won't. In generations to come. We are evolving and it can only get better | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
The police have all been charged, what more do you want?
For George Floyd not to be dead
My jaw is on the floor that you just said that.
I want racisim not to exist.
One day it won't. In generations to come. We are evolving and it can only get better"Not with attitudes like the ones on here | |||
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"Having worked in America for a short while many years back, it was apparent to me that there is a huge segregation of classes in society, particularly separated by wealth. Eg. In SoCal, Mexicans are seen as the poor burden of society. In UK, we are much more integrated. However, in the very rural areas, I still observe ignorant racial behaviour, and it's mainly through a lack of cultural education of white British. Going back to the point, making a martyr out of Floyd or wearing a #blacklivesmatter does diddly squat. Encouraging governmental policy change around specific racial equality is what is more significant. Mostly true. However rhe more non black people who show support for the blacks the better, hance the t shirt, slogan etc is a way to show unity on this matter. I don't discriminate, but my friends in South Africa might have a different opinion on behaviours of the Black community. Certainly not what Mandela stood up for." I have family in South Africa. What is happening in South Africa to the white community is disgusting. Racism and prejudice needs to be called out everywhere in all forms. However internationally, by mentioning their plight at this moment in time I feel it is detracting from the BLM movement | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
The police have all been charged, what more do you want? "So you agree that death by asphyxia is illegal in America? For that not to have happened in the first place maybe and hope that something like that to not happen again... And for those Police to be made an example of, Police are meant to protect everybody and have a duty of care whether a person is in custody or not And hope it brings a movement of change, humanity needs to move forward in it's mindsets... For racism to even be an issue in 2020 is disgusting and shows how little us as a species are evolving | |||
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"My main take on it is that I support the cause completely. I lose respect for those who say 'but all lives matter' and have contempt for those who derail it with 'white lives matter' and tails of their own prejudices. Let's be clear here black lives matter in no way detracts from our rights. We aren't going to lose anything here and nothing screams white privilege more than trying to distract from or derail a campaign for equality by portraying it as an attack on white lives matter. Not one of those protesters is saying only black lives matter." Agreed. Black lives matter. White people need to do better and stop being so fragile. | |||
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"It happened in America. I don't see what protesting in London is achieving. " Apart from raising the R number again | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
The police have all been charged, what more do you want?
For George Floyd not to be dead
Such is life, it happens everywhere by all races. In a perfect world nobody would be killed at the hands of another.
Oh my god. I am appalled at your flippant attitude about this.
Let's all fuck Lockdown off shall we cos what does it matter if a few people die of corona - such is life! "It's one man! The culprits have been charged. It happened in another country for goodness sake. It's about time you all wound your neck in. Nothing more can be done, whites are killed by blacks , whites killed by whites, blacks killed by blacks. When they are caught for their crimes and punished, that's it. It's over. We are all aware of what goes on. But you can't say all white cops in America are the same, because they are not | |||
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"Just thought I'd check on the profiles of those most vocal about all lives matter And unsurprisingly - ' no Asians/blacks, I'm not racist' is right there! " There was a thread on this yesterday. Regarding race and attraction. My simple point to all was a sexual preference with regards to race is fine, however clearly stating no blacks and no asians is painful. Its a throwback to the 1960s and reminds us of Enoch Powells speech | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
The police have all been charged, what more do you want?
For George Floyd not to be dead
My jaw is on the floor that you just said that.
I want racisim not to exist.
One day it won't. In generations to come. We are evolving and it can only get better"I think this and countless other threads show we are most definitely not evolving. Lets ignore the racist white lives matter, their agenda and hatred is clear. But every lady person saying all lives matter is doing absoluteky nothing to change the status quo or to to help things evolve on a positive way. They are dismissing the issue as it doesn't effect them | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
The police have all been charged, what more do you want?
So you agree that death by asphyxia is illegal in America?
For that not to have happened in the first place maybe and hope that something like that to not happen again... And for those Police to be made an example of, Police are meant to protect everybody and have a duty of care whether a person is in custody or not
And hope it brings a movement of change, humanity needs to move forward in it's mindsets... For racism to even be an issue in 2020 is disgusting and shows how little us as a species are evolving
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"It happened in America. I don't see what protesting in London is achieving. " Because racism doesn’t just exist in America. | |||
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"Just thought I'd check on the profiles of those most vocal about all lives matter And unsurprisingly - ' no Asians/blacks, I'm not racist' is right there! There was a thread on this yesterday. Regarding race and attraction. My simple point to all was a sexual preference with regards to race is fine, however clearly stating no blacks and no asians is painful. Its a throwback to the 1960s and reminds us of Enoch Powells speech" it's easy to express a preference in an inclusive rather than agressive way | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
The police have all been charged, what more do you want?
For George Floyd not to be dead
Such is life, it happens everywhere by all races. In a perfect world nobody would be killed at the hands of another.
Oh my god. I am appalled at your flippant attitude about this.
Let's all fuck Lockdown off shall we cos what does it matter if a few people die of corona - such is life!
It's one man! The culprits have been charged. It happened in another country for goodness sake. It's about time you all wound your neck in. Nothing more can be done, whites are killed by blacks , whites killed by whites, blacks killed by blacks. When they are caught for their crimes and punished, that's it. It's over. We are all aware of what goes on. But you can't say all white cops in America are the same, because they are not"It's not 1 man though is it? | |||
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" It's one man! The culprits have been charged. It happened in another country for goodness sake. It's about time you all wound your neck in. Nothing more can be done, whites are killed by blacks , whites killed by whites, blacks killed by blacks. When they are caught for their crimes and punished, that's it. It's over. We are all aware of what goes on. But you can't say all white cops in America are the same, because they are not" It's not just one man. Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice, Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Philando Castile, Breonna Taylor. Many others. Educate yourself. | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
The police would have shot them if they came over.
The other police should have stopped it.
Are they so fucking ignorant and badly trained that they think kneeling on someones neck is a good idea.
It is not a good idea at any time.
Unless you want to kill that person.
Anyway i am getting off this thread now. I woke up in a good mood, happy and hornt now found myself in a debate with ignorant people.
All lives matter.
In america Black people are continuing to have trouble with over zealous badly trained police so for the time being they want and appear to need to remind them that Black lives matter.
Have a good weekend ams stay safe eceryone.
There was a 75 year old white man assaulted by police at a demo earlier this week. The 2 officers responsible were suspended so his 87 (yes 87) colleagues resigned.
I think we are a long way off seeing American police call out their colleagues behaviour "The police originally in a statement that he tripped and fell, but someone released the footage which confirms they pushed him. | |||
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" It's one man! The culprits have been charged. It happened in another country for goodness sake. It's about time you all wound your neck in. Nothing more can be done, whites are killed by blacks , whites killed by whites, blacks killed by blacks. When they are caught for their crimes and punished, that's it. It's over. We are all aware of what goes on. But you can't say all white cops in America are the same, because they are not" Try telling his Daughter, his wife and his Mum and family that. Sorry but nope, I won't 'wind my neck in' If I see comments made I will respond to challenge that. Not one person has said all Police are the same, nobody has said that! People just want them to account for their actions and they will through the courts. Open your eyes and educate yourself on the bigger issues here.... | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
The police have all been charged, what more do you want?
For George Floyd not to be dead
Such is life, it happens everywhere by all races. In a perfect world nobody would be killed at the hands of another. "And I think that is the difference. You seem happy to live in this world as long as you are ok. Most of us are unhappy in a world where even one person suffers from any type of injustice, and march and protest for everyones right. No one is free until everybody is free | |||
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"It happened in America. I don't see what protesting in London is achieving. Because racism doesn’t just exist in America. " It's not just race though is it? Prejudice is everywhere for all sorts of people world wide. That's why all lives matter. Why should we single out black people for special treatment? | |||
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"All life’s of course matter but black people actually get mistreated more then any other race or colour thats complete bullshit . Its just highlighted more when it happens to black people You need to do some research before you come spewing racist rhetoric on here
Lee rigby ? Remenber him ? Killed by 2 blackmen just going about his buisness in london . No protest , no white lives matter ? Educate yourself forgett history .and btw im far from racist i there is good and bad in everyone and EVERY race
Yes and people jumped in as soon as he was attacked.....
George Floyd was trapped without air for what was it? 8 and a half minutes, nobody did a thing about they stood and watched
Yes but a different country has different ways than ours. Some countries still cut your hand off for stealing. Their county, their rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Unless there was a world war three and we all lived under British law. But then we wouldn't be able to exploit the child labour in poor countries and buy cheap goods. Swings ands roundabouts.
No law in America allows death by asphyxia...And even if it were since when was it lawful for police to administer it on the street
Cannot believe what you are saying there...
The police have all been charged, what more do you want? "The main suspect has gone been charged with second degree murder. As far as I’m aware this is cations with intention to commit murder. Something he could be found not guilty on “ as were his intentions to commit murder “. Police officers have in the past in America Been acquitted of similar actions. | |||
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