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"There should be a thread up. We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk! We need to be better! All lives matter." This boils my piss. Of course all lives matter. But black lives are the ones in danger right now.  | |||
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"There should be a thread up. We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk! We need to be better! All lives matter." All lives don’t get put at risk by dangerous stereotyping and profiling. | |||
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"There should be a thread up. We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk! We need to be better! All lives matter. This boils my piss. Of course all lives matter. But black lives are the ones in danger right now. "Three words: I CAN’T BREATHE | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you "It’s not #BlackLivesMatterMore or #JustBlackLivesMatter it’s that they matter, why is that such a difficult concept for people to understand? | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you "You are completely missing the point! And this response is part of the problem. Yes. ALL lives matter. We should all be equal. We are all equal in my eyes. But we are not the same! We are not in danger simply because we are white. BLACK lives are the ones at risk right now. They are who need our help. You wouldn't stop shining a light on breast cancer research because other cancers exist, right? | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
It’s not #BlackLivesMatterMore or #JustBlackLivesMatter it’s that they matter, why is that such a difficult concept for people to understand? "All lives matter, colour is irrelevant x | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
You are completely missing the point! And this response is part of the problem.
Yes. ALL lives matter. We should all be equal. We are all equal in my eyes. But we are not the same! We are not in danger simply because we are white. BLACK lives are the ones at risk right now. They are who need our help. You wouldn't stop shining a light on breast cancer research because other cancers exist, right?
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"There should be a thread up. We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk! We need to be better! All lives matter. This boils my piss. Of course all lives matter. But black lives are the ones in danger right now.
Three words:
I CAN’T BREATHE "The number of times that gets used during an arrest.... 
This case was very sad though and possibly not helped by the above.... 
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you "He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP! | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
You are completely missing the point! And this response is part of the problem.
Yes. ALL lives matter. We should all be equal. We are all equal in my eyes. But we are not the same! We are not in danger simply because we are white. BLACK lives are the ones at risk right now. They are who need our help. You wouldn't stop shining a light on breast cancer research because other cancers exist, right?
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you "Well said. | |||
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"There should be a thread up. We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk! We need to be better! All lives matter." Why do people do this ?! | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!"So are you saying that no white person has ever died from police brutality? | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
It’s not #BlackLivesMatterMore or #JustBlackLivesMatter it’s that they matter, why is that such a difficult concept for people to understand?
All lives matter, colour is irrelevant x "To think colour is irrelevant is pretty naive. If he had been white it wouldn’t have even escalated to an arrest, that’s how different it is. White people can go for a jog through a nice neighbourhood without people shooting because they think they’re criminals. Not acknowledging privilege is part of the problem. | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
You are completely missing the point! And this response is part of the problem.
Yes. ALL lives matter. We should all be equal. We are all equal in my eyes. But we are not the same! We are not in danger simply because we are white. BLACK lives are the ones at risk right now. They are who need our help. You wouldn't stop shining a light on breast cancer research because other cancers exist, right?
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"If a house is on fire, do you throw water on all the other houses in the street first because all houses matter? No. You throw water on the one in flames...cos that's the one fucking burning! Fuck off with your ALL lives matter. White people aren't being murdered by racist cops! Black lives are in danger. " If you’re white and don’t understand that yes life can be shit, but you will always be more privileged....then where have you been hiding?! | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!
So are you saying that no white person has ever died from police brutality? "Nope. Not saying that at all. Are you suggesting the numbers are equal? | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!"pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper. Racism works both ways unfortunately. | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you "Oh my god really? | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately."NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!! HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT! | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately."Or the fact that nearly 70% of people shot by police in America in the first 3 months of this year we’re white  | |||
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"I’ve stayed quiet about this on fab because I know fine well I’ll get myself in trouble because I’m too passionate. And I think, going by this thread, I will indeed stay quiet and not read all the replies. But yes. Black lives matter. That doesn’t mean WHITE lives don’t matter. " I considered saying nothing for the same reason. But I can't. I can't be silent on this. | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately.
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!
HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!"if you say racism doesn't work both ways you're delusional. | |||
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"There should be a thread up. We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk! We need to be better! All lives matter." | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately.
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!
HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!if you say racism doesn't work both ways you're delusional. "No, she’s right. | |||
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"I’ve stayed quiet about this on fab because I know fine well I’ll get myself in trouble because I’m too passionate. And I think, going by this thread, I will indeed stay quiet and not read all the replies. But yes. Black lives matter. That doesn’t mean WHITE lives don’t matter. I considered saying nothing for the same reason. But I can't. I can't be silent on this." You should try being black. I've learned to be silent over the years. | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately.
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!
HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! ST
OP WHITEWASHING SHIT!"Think you need to calm down. | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately."Incidents of black on white violence does not equal the same as a pattern and a history of discriminatory behaviour. The likelihood of a white person even having the police called on them in the George Floyd situation is close to zero. Look at all the videos of police being called because black people dare to walk round or even, god forbid, live in a nice neighbourhood. | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately.
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!
HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! ST
OP WHITEWASHING SHIT!
Think you need to calm down."I'll calm down when people aren't being murdered by our police, governments and other institutions. | |||
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"It’s sickening and not getting any better...believe me as parents of Children who have been on the receiving end way too early in life nothing upsets us more." Solidarity | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
It’s not #BlackLivesMatterMore or #JustBlackLivesMatter it’s that they matter, why is that such a difficult concept for people to understand?
All lives matter, colour is irrelevant x
To think colour is irrelevant is pretty naive. If he had been white it wouldn’t have even escalated to an arrest, that’s how different it is. White people can go for a jog through a nice neighbourhood without people shooting because they think they’re criminals. Not acknowledging privilege is part of the problem. "Its not naive, its topia. Its the perfect world, the 'naivity' to it is that unfortunately your right in what you say. I just live my life where colour is irrelevant to me as a human is a human x | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately.
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!
HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!"Racism does work both ways. If people believe it doesn't, then they are delusional. I've seen examples of all kinds of racism, even black on black racism. No one is whitewashing (am I allowed to use that term even?) and it was horrific what happened, it doesn't excuse the rioting and looting. I hope the police officer responsible gets locked up for life. | |||
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All the white folks arguing with one another about something they don't understand..... | |||
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"Uh oh
All the white folks arguing with one another about something they don't understand..... "Helpful.... | |||
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"Uh oh
All the white folks arguing with one another about something they don't understand..... "Why is that?? | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately.
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!
HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!
Racism does work both ways. If people believe it doesn't, then they are delusional. I've seen examples of all kinds of racism, even black on black racism. No one is whitewashing (am I allowed to use that term even?) and it was horrific what happened, it doesn't excuse the rioting and looting. I hope the police officer responsible gets locked up for life. "No it doesn't. Racism towards black people has been going on for 100s of years. Systematic racism. Ingrained social racism. White people do not deal with that. At all. | |||
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All the white folks arguing with one another about something they don't understand..... "We know we won’t ever understand. We’re white, and we’re privileged. But you can stand together. | |||
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"Uh oh
All the white folks arguing with one another about something they don't understand.....
We know we won’t ever understand. We’re white, and we’re privileged. But you can stand together. "Exactly. We need to learn. We need to discuss it. We need to wake the fuck up. | |||
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"People saying “all lives matter” either arent getting it, are inherently prejudiced or just dont understand why black people speaking up makes them feel uncomfortable. In short, rather than post “all lives matter” try to understand first." I'll be honest. Sometimes stuff like this makes me uncomfortable. I have to get over my shit when that happens. | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately.
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!
HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!
Racism does work both ways. If people believe it doesn't, then they are delusional. I've seen examples of all kinds of racism, even black on black racism. No one is whitewashing (am I allowed to use that term even?) and it was horrific what happened, it doesn't excuse the rioting and looting. I hope the police officer responsible gets locked up for life.
No it doesn't.
Racism towards black people has been going on for 100s of years. Systematic racism. Ingrained social racism. White people do not deal with that. At all. "Having experienced this myself, I can confirm it does exist. I dealt with it when I lived abroad. Thanks for your input. | |||
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"People saying “all lives matter” either arent getting it, are inherently prejudiced or just dont understand why black people speaking up makes them feel uncomfortable. In short, rather than post “all lives matter” try to understand first. I'll be honest. Sometimes stuff like this makes me uncomfortable. I have to get over my shit when that happens." Thats fine! We should feel uncomfortable! What we shouldnt do is use our priviledge to diminish the BLM movement with empty platitudes about how “all loves matter”. If we feel uncomfortable we must educate ourselves, learn to understand & LISTEN to what people are saying. We’ll never fully understand, but we can learn to all be more empathetic. Feeling uncomfortable is a good thing as long as we use that feeling correctly! | |||
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"People saying “all lives matter” either arent getting it, are inherently prejudiced or just dont understand why black people speaking up makes them feel uncomfortable. In short, rather than post “all lives matter” try to understand first. I'll be honest. Sometimes stuff like this makes me uncomfortable. I have to get over my shit when that happens. Thats fine! We should feel uncomfortable! What we shouldnt do is use our priviledge to diminish the BLM movement with empty platitudes about how “all loves matter”. If we feel uncomfortable we must educate ourselves, learn to understand & LISTEN to what people are saying. We’ll never fully understand, but we can learn to all be more empathetic. Feeling uncomfortable is a good thing as long as we use that feeling correctly!" | |||
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"I find this thread hugely depressing. I'm white, and I'm very glad of that. I have no idea what it's like to be black. But I do know that if you are black you are disproportionately likely to be arrested, and to die in police custody. When people say black lives matter, they aren't saying back lives matter more, just that black lives matter EVERY BIT AS MUCH! " Totally agree. | |||
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"I find this thread hugely depressing. I'm white, and I'm very glad of that. I have no idea what it's like to be black. But I do know that if you are black you are disproportionately likely to be arrested, and to die in police custody. When people say black lives matter, they aren't saying back lives matter more, just that black lives matter EVERY BIT AS MUCH! Totally agree. "That | |||
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"I find this thread hugely depressing. I'm white, and I'm very glad of that. I have no idea what it's like to be black. But I do know that if you are black you are disproportionately likely to be arrested, and to die in police custody. When people say black lives matter, they aren't saying back lives matter more, just that black lives matter EVERY BIT AS MUCH! " Exactly | |||
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"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT?" We all need to be better at challenging systemic racism. We need to listen more & we need to be more open to reducing our own privilege to increase that of others. We need to stand strong & use our given privilege to empower others without that. That means holding power to account & educating the next generation properly. | |||
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"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT? We all need to be better at challenging systemic racism. We need to listen more & we need to be more open to reducing our own privilege to increase that of others. We need to stand strong & use our given privilege to empower others without that. That means holding power to account & educating the next generation properly." Agreed | |||
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All the white folks arguing with one another about something they don't understand.....
We know we won’t ever understand. We’re white, and we’re privileged. But you can stand together.
Exactly.
We need to learn. We need to discuss it. We need to wake the fuck up. "That surely involves listening to all and taking all points on board and respecting them and staying calm and going about things constructively with consideration? Even wrt the ppl you disagree with, or else you're saying they don't matter so much....
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"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT? We all need to be better at challenging systemic racism. We need to listen more & we need to be more open to reducing our own privilege to increase that of others. We need to stand strong & use our given privilege to empower others without that. That means holding power to account & educating the next generation properly. This! "Yep. It’s all super simple stuff really. The only thing we have to focus on is actually doing this otherwise every white person who has spoken up to then do nothing has wasted everyones time. We have to say it AND mean it. | |||
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"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT? We all need to be better at challenging systemic racism. We need to listen more & we need to be more open to reducing our own privilege to increase that of others. We need to stand strong & use our given privilege to empower others without that. That means holding power to account & educating the next generation properly." work 6 days a week. I have done most of my life. I live in a council house. My boss is from Nigeria. Lives in a 5 bedroom house he owns that was paid for by his rich father. I’ve met his wife and 3 kids. All lovely people. The wife and kids don’t have had to work bit still respectable people Me and the 12 of us will do anything for his company due to being a great boss. Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is. If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame. | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
It’s not #BlackLivesMatterMore or #JustBlackLivesMatter it’s that they matter, why is that such a difficult concept for people to understand? "Thanks for pointing out the obvious as some clearly don’t get it. SMH that you needed to xx | |||
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" All lives matter." ding ding ding.... you win the prize for the quickest patronising post! "black lives matter!" doesn't mean just black lives matter..... it means black lives matter ALSO!!! look... we can have a conversation about race... but anyone who uses the terms "all lives matter" or "blue lives matter" isn't ready for that chat, because you have an inherant misunderstanding of what is going on...... | |||
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"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT? We all need to be better at challenging systemic racism. We need to listen more & we need to be more open to reducing our own privilege to increase that of others. We need to stand strong & use our given privilege to empower others without that. That means holding power to account & educating the next generation properly. work 6 days a week. I have done most of my life. I live in a council house. My boss is from Nigeria. Lives in a 5 bedroom house he owns that was paid for by his rich father. I’ve met his wife and 3 kids. All lovely people. The wife and kids don’t have had to work bit still respectable people Me and the 12 of us will do anything for his company due to being a great boss. Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is. If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame." This is exactly why this dicussion needs to be had. Knowing a successful black individual does not mean these people havent faced racism in their every day lives or wont face systemic racism at some point. Wealth doesnt equate a life free from prejudice for the colour of ones skin. As well, an individual being successful does not diminish the point of the BLM movement. Many successful black people have overcame odds greater than that of any average white person. Just because your boss is well off it doesnt make him any less likely to have faced discrimination & racial profiling. At the same time, nobody is asking you to feel guilty - we’re asking people to be understanding, empathetic, human & above all else - not racist | |||
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" All lives matter. ding ding ding.... you win the prize for the quickest patronising post! "black lives matter!" doesn't mean just black lives matter..... it means black lives matter ALSO!!! look... we can have a conversation about race... but anyone who uses the terms "all lives matter" or "blue lives matter" isn't ready for that chat, because you have an inherant misunderstanding of what is going on...... " I really don't think that's a fair statement. In some cases yes..... but not all. | |||
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" All lives matter. ding ding ding.... you win the prize for the quickest patronising post! "black lives matter!" doesn't mean just black lives matter..... it means black lives matter ALSO!!! look... we can have a conversation about race... but anyone who uses the terms "all lives matter" or "blue lives matter" isn't ready for that chat, because you have an inherant misunderstanding of what is going on...... " Perfectly put - people using these things arent understanding because they dont want to understand. Thats why they fear the BLM movement - its natural to be scared of what you cant comprehend. | |||
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"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT? We all need to be better at challenging systemic racism. We need to listen more & we need to be more open to reducing our own privilege to increase that of others. We need to stand strong & use our given privilege to empower others without that. That means holding power to account & educating the next generation properly." work 6 days a week. I have done most of my life. I live in a council house. My boss is from Nigeria. Lives in a 5 bedroom house he owns that was paid for by his rich father. I’ve met his wife and 3 kids. All lovely people. The wife and kids don’t have had to work bit still respectable people Me and the 12 of us will do anything for his company due to being a great boss. Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is. If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame. | |||
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"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT? We all need to be better at challenging systemic racism. We need to listen more & we need to be more open to reducing our own privilege to increase that of others. We need to stand strong & use our given privilege to empower others without that. That means holding power to account & educating the next generation properly. work 6 days a week. I have done most of my life. I live in a council house. My boss is from Nigeria. Lives in a 5 bedroom house he owns that was paid for by his rich father. I’ve met his wife and 3 kids. All lovely people. The wife and kids don’t have had to work bit still respectable people Me and the 12 of us will do anything for his company due to being a great boss. Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is. If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame." Again - are you white? | |||
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"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT? We all need to be better at challenging systemic racism. We need to listen more & we need to be more open to reducing our own privilege to increase that of others. We need to stand strong & use our given privilege to empower others without that. That means holding power to account & educating the next generation properly. work 6 days a week. I have done most of my life. I live in a council house. My boss is from Nigeria. Lives in a 5 bedroom house he owns that was paid for by his rich father. I’ve met his wife and 3 kids. All lovely people. The wife and kids don’t have had to work bit still respectable people Me and the 12 of us will do anything for his company due to being a great boss. Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is. If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame." But he will still get pulled over and racially profiled. He will still be questioned and thought to not own his fancy car and be assumed to have stolen it He's less likely to survive a police stop in America. Your privilege is not about your financial status, it's to do with the fact that you are not perceived to be dangerous and treated differently Just because of the colour of you skin And as side note black lives matter, does not mean other lives don't, it's means right now black lives matter less, so we need to shout louder for those lives, when their lives are no longer treated less than other lives, then we can say all lives matter.... But right now, unfortunately not all lives are equal | |||
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"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT? We all need to be better at challenging systemic racism. We need to listen more & we need to be more open to reducing our own privilege to increase that of others. We need to stand strong & use our given privilege to empower others without that. That means holding power to account & educating the next generation properly. work 6 days a week. I have done most of my life. I live in a council house. My boss is from Nigeria. Lives in a 5 bedroom house he owns that was paid for by his rich father. I’ve met his wife and 3 kids. All lovely people. The wife and kids don’t have had to work bit still respectable people Me and the 12 of us will do anything for his company due to being a great boss. Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is. If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame." Whiteys on the Moon | |||
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"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT? We all need to be better at challenging systemic racism. We need to listen more & we need to be more open to reducing our own privilege to increase that of others. We need to stand strong & use our given privilege to empower others without that. That means holding power to account & educating the next generation properly. work 6 days a week. I have done most of my life. I live in a council house. My boss is from Nigeria. Lives in a 5 bedroom house he owns that was paid for by his rich father. I’ve met his wife and 3 kids. All lovely people. The wife and kids don’t have had to work bit still respectable people Me and the 12 of us will do anything for his company due to being a great boss. Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is. If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame. Again - are you white?" There are privileges in life that aren’t anything to do with money | |||
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"Your privilege is not about your financial status, it's to do with the fact that you are not perceived to be dangerous and treated differently Just because of the colour of you skin And as side note black lives matter, does not mean other lives don't, it's means right now black lives matter less, so we need to shout louder for those lives, when their lives are no longer treated less than other lives, then we can say all lives matter.... But right now, unfortunately not all lives are equal " Perfectly put. 100% agreement. | |||
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" All lives matter. ding ding ding.... you win the prize for the quickest patronising post! "black lives matter!" doesn't mean just black lives matter..... it means black lives matter ALSO!!! look... we can have a conversation about race... but anyone who uses the terms "all lives matter" or "blue lives matter" isn't ready for that chat, because you have an inherant misunderstanding of what is going on...... I really don't think that's a fair statement. In some cases yes..... but not all. " i think it is.... because it shows a complete nievity or lack of understanding..... how many white people who stick their hands up at the moment and say "yes i gladly swop my position in live for a black man!"??? really??????? i believe i've had to work twice as hard and be twice as good to get to where i am at.... how many times have you had people cross the road when they see you coming? how many times have you been stopped and searched for no reason? you have to absolutely understand the inequilties in life and recognised and acknowledge them before we can truely talk about change... | |||
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"The UK is one of the least racist countries I have ever had the privilege to visit, and live in albeit for a short time. Even I, with my Nigerian heritage, think that "Black lives matter" is an inflammatory statement as such and should be amended to "Black lives matter too". I have experienced very little racism in the UK and I think it is totally unfair that the good white people still suffer the accusations of racism as they are always associated with the bad. When the riots and looting happen, the good still suffer. " Have to say very well put | |||
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"The UK is one of the least racist countries I have ever had the privilege to visit, and live in albeit for a short time. Even I, with my Nigerian heritage, think that "Black lives matter" is an inflammatory statement as such and should be amended to "Black lives matter too". I have experienced very little racism in the UK and I think it is totally unfair that the good white people still suffer the accusations of racism as they are always associated with the bad. When the riots and looting happen, the good still suffer. " Again - this needs to stop. We have to stop equating our own PERSONAL experience with it being the experience of a vast number of people. Growing up with a black best friend I can tell you that the UK is as racist as anywhere else. His skin colour was the source of abuse he recieved & I have seen him racially profiled by police on several occasions. The UK has also deported legal citizens to countries they were never born or lived in purely because of their black heritage. Just because YOU dont see something - it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. | |||
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"How about talk about politics on the politics forum and just keep the lounge forum to rating cunts and cocks "how about that if you find a topic you don't want to talk about... do something radical and pass it by! you don't need to post.... you can close your eyes..... this is the most patronising bullshit..... | |||
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"Thank you, someone posted it. Black lives matter, its so important that we focus on that and stop trying to make this inclusive of everyone. Society has been focused on keeping white people comfortable for too long. It's time to look at and acknowledge the uncomfortable truth that our society is built on years and years of racist behaviours and attitudes. Its up to us to change that. I'll say it again, black lives matter. (also, this is a great thread for blocking the "all lives matter" crowd) " I’m using it for that too. I think i’m wasting time trying to educate with the thinly veiled racists | |||
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"Thank you, someone posted it. Black lives matter, its so important that we focus on that and stop trying to make this inclusive of everyone. Society has been focused on keeping white people comfortable for too long. It's time to look at and acknowledge the uncomfortable truth that our society is built on years and years of racist behaviours and attitudes. Its up to us to change that. I'll say it again, black lives matter. (also, this is a great thread for blocking the "all lives matter" crowd) " Same, not many threads that get me wound up to the point of blocking! ‘All lives matter’ is an excuse to bury your heads in the sand and it only acts to silence those who are trying to be heard. | |||
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" All lives matter. ding ding ding.... you win the prize for the quickest patronising post! "black lives matter!" doesn't mean just black lives matter..... it means black lives matter ALSO!!! look... we can have a conversation about race... but anyone who uses the terms "all lives matter" or "blue lives matter" isn't ready for that chat, because you have an inherant misunderstanding of what is going on...... I really don't think that's a fair statement. In some cases yes..... but not all. i think it is.... because it shows a complete nievity or lack of understanding..... how many white people who stick their hands up at the moment and say "yes i gladly swop my position in live for a black man!"??? really??????? i believe i've had to work twice as hard and be twice as good to get to where i am at.... how many times have you had people cross the road when they see you coming? how many times have you been stopped and searched for no reason? you have to absolutely understand the inequilties in life and recognised and acknowledge them before we can truely talk about change... " I understand all that. However you don't know what is in their heart. | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
You are completely missing the point! And this response is part of the problem.
Yes. ALL lives matter. We should all be equal. We are all equal in my eyes. But we are not the same! We are not in danger simply because we are white. BLACK lives are the ones at risk right now. They are who need our help. You wouldn't stop shining a light on breast cancer research because other cancers exist, right?
"Try telling that to the white farmers in South Africa who are tortured and murdered daily through racial hatred. Maybe you should shine a light on them too, because from where I’m at, it’s exactly the same thing but you didn’t make a thread about them. Racial divide is wrong and humanity dictates that everyone’s life matters. | |||
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"The UK is one of the least racist countries I have ever had the privilege to visit, and live in albeit for a short time. Even I, with my Nigerian heritage, think that "Black lives matter" is an inflammatory statement as such and should be amended to "Black lives matter too". I have experienced very little racism in the UK and I think it is totally unfair that the good white people still suffer the accusations of racism as they are always associated with the bad. When the riots and looting happen, the good still suffer. Again - this needs to stop. We have to stop equating our own PERSONAL experience with it being the experience of a vast number of people. Growing up with a black best friend I can tell you that the UK is as racist as anywhere else. His skin colour was the source of abuse he recieved & I have seen him racially profiled by police on several occasions. The UK has also deported legal citizens to countries they were never born or lived in purely because of their black heritage. Just because YOU dont see something - it doesnt mean it doesnt exist." I disagree. Personal experiences equate to a reality that mob mentality does not, and should be shared to come to a truthful conclusion. I have lived and worked in many countries of the world and my experiences are not just based on having one black friend many years ago. White people need to actually listen to black people and not make up their own versions of events. | |||
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"The UK is one of the least racist countries I have ever had the privilege to visit, and live in albeit for a short time. Even I, with my Nigerian heritage, think that "Black lives matter" is an inflammatory statement as such and should be amended to "Black lives matter too". I have experienced very little racism in the UK and I think it is totally unfair that the good white people still suffer the accusations of racism as they are always associated with the bad. When the riots and looting happen, the good still suffer. " Wow what an achievement.... Least racist.... I'm sorry I don't see that as something to be proud of, because least racist still implies the racism exist, black lives still matter less, racial profiling still exists.... Thats Just not good enough for me. Sorry | |||
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"As far as I’m concerned I’ll continue to call out any racism if I encounter it in person as I have done all my days but there’s not much else a little person like myself can do I’m not allowed to have an opinion on what’s happened in America. The death of George Floyd is inexcusable and the police involved should be strung up but the people (of all races in these crowds) burning out businesses, looting and beating up property owners only works against any movement that’s looking to move forward no matter what colour your skin or what opinion you hold That’s my two cents and no doubt it’s wrong and someone will find something to pick at " If all the 'little people' call out racism, if we all stand together, that creates something bigger. It does make a difference. It's not all looting. There's a lot of stories of peaceful protests. Police walking with the people. | |||
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"The UK is one of the least racist countries I have ever had the privilege to visit, and live in albeit for a short time. Even I, with my Nigerian heritage, think that "Black lives matter" is an inflammatory statement as such and should be amended to "Black lives matter too". I have experienced very little racism in the UK and I think it is totally unfair that the good white people still suffer the accusations of racism as they are always associated with the bad. When the riots and looting happen, the good still suffer. Again - this needs to stop. We have to stop equating our own PERSONAL experience with it being the experience of a vast number of people. Growing up with a black best friend I can tell you that the UK is as racist as anywhere else. His skin colour was the source of abuse he recieved & I have seen him racially profiled by police on several occasions. The UK has also deported legal citizens to countries they were never born or lived in purely because of their black heritage. Just because YOU dont see something - it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. I disagree. Personal experiences equate to a reality that mob mentality does not, and should be shared to come to a truthful conclusion. I have lived and worked in many countries of the world and my experiences are not just based on having one black friend many years ago. White people need to actually listen to black people and not make up their own versions of events." & this is the problem - not enough white people are listening, because if they listened they wouldnt be saying stupid shit like “all lives matter” | |||
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"I’ve stayed quiet about this on fab because I know fine well I’ll get myself in trouble because I’m too passionate. And I think, going by this thread, I will indeed stay quiet and not read all the replies. But yes. Black lives matter. That doesn’t mean WHITE lives don’t matter. I considered saying nothing for the same reason. But I can't. I can't be silent on this." Nobody is saying white lives don't. But there is an arsehole over the pond running the show, who, by his actions is saying 'Black lives are not as valuable as white'. | |||
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"As far as I’m concerned I’ll continue to call out any racism if I encounter it in person as I have done all my days but there’s not much else a little person like myself can do I’m not allowed to have an opinion on what’s happened in America. The death of George Floyd is inexcusable and the police involved should be strung up but the people (of all races in these crowds) burning out businesses, looting and beating up property owners only works against any movement that’s looking to move forward no matter what colour your skin or what opinion you hold That’s my two cents and no doubt it’s wrong and someone will find something to pick at If all the 'little people' call out racism, if we all stand together, that creates something bigger. It does make a difference. It's not all looting. There's a lot of stories of peaceful protests. Police walking with the people. " And someone found something to pick at... I agree with the peaceful protests nothing against them, I applaud the officers and sheriffs laying down their batons and armour to stand with the people in these protests. I cannot agree with the few select groups who are burning businesses and streets | |||
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"The UK is one of the least racist countries I have ever had the privilege to visit, and live in albeit for a short time. Even I, with my Nigerian heritage, think that "Black lives matter" is an inflammatory statement as such and should be amended to "Black lives matter too". I have experienced very little racism in the UK and I think it is totally unfair that the good white people still suffer the accusations of racism as they are always associated with the bad. When the riots and looting happen, the good still suffer. Again - this needs to stop. We have to stop equating our own PERSONAL experience with it being the experience of a vast number of people. Growing up with a black best friend I can tell you that the UK is as racist as anywhere else. His skin colour was the source of abuse he recieved & I have seen him racially profiled by police on several occasions. The UK has also deported legal citizens to countries they were never born or lived in purely because of their black heritage. Just because YOU dont see something - it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. I disagree. Personal experiences equate to a reality that mob mentality does not, and should be shared to come to a truthful conclusion. I have lived and worked in many countries of the world and my experiences are not just based on having one black friend many years ago. White people need to actually listen to black people and not make up their own versions of events. & this is the problem - not enough white people are listening, because if they listened they wouldnt be saying stupid shit like “all lives matter”" "Not enough white people are listening" is your opinion. A white person's opinion. You need to open your ears to all opinions. | |||
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"As far as I’m concerned I’ll continue to call out any racism if I encounter it in person as I have done all my days but there’s not much else a little person like myself can do I’m not allowed to have an opinion on what’s happened in America. The death of George Floyd is inexcusable and the police involved should be strung up but the people (of all races in these crowds) burning out businesses, looting and beating up property owners only works against any movement that’s looking to move forward no matter what colour your skin or what opinion you hold That’s my two cents and no doubt it’s wrong and someone will find something to pick at If all the 'little people' call out racism, if we all stand together, that creates something bigger. It does make a difference. It's not all looting. There's a lot of stories of peaceful protests. Police walking with the people. And someone found something to pick at... I agree with the peaceful protests nothing against them, I applaud the officers and sheriffs laying down their batons and armour to stand with the people in these protests. I cannot agree with the few select groups who are burning businesses and streets " How am I picking at what you said? I am agreeing with you. | |||
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"The UK is one of the least racist countries I have ever had the privilege to visit, and live in albeit for a short time. Even I, with my Nigerian heritage, think that "Black lives matter" is an inflammatory statement as such and should be amended to "Black lives matter too". I have experienced very little racism in the UK and I think it is totally unfair that the good white people still suffer the accusations of racism as they are always associated with the bad. When the riots and looting happen, the good still suffer. Again - this needs to stop. We have to stop equating our own PERSONAL experience with it being the experience of a vast number of people. Growing up with a black best friend I can tell you that the UK is as racist as anywhere else. His skin colour was the source of abuse he recieved & I have seen him racially profiled by police on several occasions. The UK has also deported legal citizens to countries they were never born or lived in purely because of their black heritage. Just because YOU dont see something - it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. I disagree. Personal experiences equate to a reality that mob mentality does not, and should be shared to come to a truthful conclusion. I have lived and worked in many countries of the world and my experiences are not just based on having one black friend many years ago. White people need to actually listen to black people and not make up their own versions of events. & this is the problem - not enough white people are listening, because if they listened they wouldnt be saying stupid shit like “all lives matter” "Not enough white people are listening" is your opinion. A white person's opinion. You need to open your ears to all opinions." We are. I’m listening to the black community, on here & out there. These people want equality, I am born into privilege where it is my duty to speak up & be heard, both for & with my black friends | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you "I think what this poster highlights is the psychological impact the term Black Lives Matter has on how we interpret what it stands for. For the poster, and clearly many others on here judging by the comments, it seems segregational and valuing one group over another. If the movement was called Fuck You Racism then more people would probably get on board. Look into Psychological Construction and the Conceptual Act Theory for more details. | |||
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"Why do white people on here think Black Lives Matter is an attack on them? Standing up and supporting black people does not mean you look down to white people. Your fragile egos need to understand this. To say "all lives matter" is to dilute the issue. The issue now is that POC are being killed just for being black. This does not happen to white people. Yes, white people have been killed by police, but black people are disproportionately killed by police. The UK is not a perfect place. Black people get stereotyped by police all the time. Why do you feel victimised when someone says "black lives matter"?" | |||
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"As far as I’m concerned I’ll continue to call out any racism if I encounter it in person as I have done all my days but there’s not much else a little person like myself can do I’m not allowed to have an opinion on what’s happened in America. The death of George Floyd is inexcusable and the police involved should be strung up but the people (of all races in these crowds) burning out businesses, looting and beating up property owners only works against any movement that’s looking to move forward no matter what colour your skin or what opinion you hold That’s my two cents and no doubt it’s wrong and someone will find something to pick at If all the 'little people' call out racism, if we all stand together, that creates something bigger. It does make a difference. It's not all looting. There's a lot of stories of peaceful protests. Police walking with the people. And someone found something to pick at... I agree with the peaceful protests nothing against them, I applaud the officers and sheriffs laying down their batons and armour to stand with the people in these protests. I cannot agree with the few select groups who are burning businesses and streets How am I picking at what you said? I am agreeing with you. " I agree with you too if we all do our parts at least we’re helping in some way but to some it’s not good enough to simply care unfortunately | |||
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"As far as I’m concerned I’ll continue to call out any racism if I encounter it in person as I have done all my days but there’s not much else a little person like myself can do I’m not allowed to have an opinion on what’s happened in America. The death of George Floyd is inexcusable and the police involved should be strung up but the people (of all races in these crowds) burning out businesses, looting and beating up property owners only works against any movement that’s looking to move forward no matter what colour your skin or what opinion you hold That’s my two cents and no doubt it’s wrong and someone will find something to pick at If all the 'little people' call out racism, if we all stand together, that creates something bigger. It does make a difference. It's not all looting. There's a lot of stories of peaceful protests. Police walking with the people. And someone found something to pick at... I agree with the peaceful protests nothing against them, I applaud the officers and sheriffs laying down their batons and armour to stand with the people in these protests. I cannot agree with the few select groups who are burning businesses and streets How am I picking at what you said? I am agreeing with you. I agree with you too if we all do our parts at least we’re helping in some way but to some it’s not good enough to simply care unfortunately " | |||
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"Why do white people on here think Black Lives Matter is an attack on them? Standing up and supporting black people does not mean you look down to white people. Your fragile egos need to understand this. To say "all lives matter" is to dilute the issue. The issue now is that POC are being killed just for being black. This does not happen to white people. Yes, white people have been killed by police, but black people are disproportionately killed by police. The UK is not a perfect place. Black people get stereotyped by police all the time. Why do you feel victimised when someone says "black lives matter"?" I think because lots of people are victimised for lots of different reasons. And we shouldn't be singling out one group of people. They aren't more important than any of the others. | |||
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"Why do white people on here think Black Lives Matter is an attack on them? Standing up and supporting black people does not mean you look down to white people. Your fragile egos need to understand this. To say "all lives matter" is to dilute the issue. The issue now is that POC are being killed just for being black. This does not happen to white people. Yes, white people have been killed by police, but black people are disproportionately killed by police. The UK is not a perfect place. Black people get stereotyped by police all the time. Why do you feel victimised when someone says "black lives matter"? I think because lots of people are victimised for lots of different reasons. And we shouldn't be singling out one group of people. They aren't more important than any of the others. " Like I said in my post, this isn't saying one group is more important than another. This is a relevant issue right now which is being highlighted. If someone feels victimised by BLM then it's on them. | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately.
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!
HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!
He died because someone was knealing on his wind pipe.
Stop confusing the facts with your opinion. "No one is saying that isn't true but the problem is why was he killed? The crime didn't fit the response and this is issue. It's also why it's becoming a bigger matter as this happens in the UK aswell. | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately.
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!
HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!
He died because someone was knealing on his wind pipe.
Stop confusing the facts with your opinion.
No one is saying that isn't true but the problem is why was he killed? The crime didn't fit the response and this is issue. It's also why it's becoming a bigger matter as this happens in the UK aswell."Unfortunately it was the Police officer involved that made the decision how to handle the situation. Until the results of the offical enquiry into the man's death are published we can only guess. In what way is it happening in the UK? | |||
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"So where were all you warriors when Mugabe was ordering the killing of white farmers? Where were all the voices screaming white lives matter? Where was the white privilege when the white women were being gang r***d on his orders? Delusional hypocrites saying white people don't know what it’s like to be discriminated against" You're going back 20 years to give an example of racism against white people, which shows you just how rare extreme attacks on people with white skin are. | |||
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"How about talk about politics on the politics forum and just keep the lounge forum to rating cunts and cocks
how about that if you find a topic you don't want to talk about... do something radical and pass it by!
you don't need to post.... you can close your eyes.....
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"There are a lot of racists on fab. " Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing. Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful | |||
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"There are a lot of racists on fab. Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing. Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful" Dip down into the political forum and you'll find loads of the EDL types and those who think that "trump has got a point", to those who think looting tellies is worse than executing black people suspected of minor crimes. | |||
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"There are a lot of racists on fab. Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing. Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful Dip down into the political forum and you'll find loads of the EDL types and those who think that "trump has got a point", to those who think looting tellies is worse than executing black people suspected of minor crimes. " Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad? . Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance.... | |||
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"There are a lot of racists on fab. Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing. Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful Dip down into the political forum and you'll find loads of the EDL types and those who think that "trump has got a point", to those who think looting tellies is worse than executing black people suspected of minor crimes. " It's why I dont go there anymore. It's not good for my blood pressure! | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately.
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!
HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!
He died because someone was knealing on his wind pipe.
Stop confusing the facts with your opinion.
No one is saying that isn't true but the problem is why was he killed? The crime didn't fit the response and this is issue. It's also why it's becoming a bigger matter as this happens in the UK aswell.
Unfortunately it was the Police officer involved that made the decision how to handle the situation.
Until the results of the offical enquiry into the man's death are published we can only guess.
In what way is it happening in the UK?
"Just look at the recent Windrush scandal or families of people being sent to countries they have never been in because the government can't find their paperwork. If you're asking if the death of black people by police officers is happening here it does happen but at no where near the levels of the US. You say it was the police officers decision to act that way but there were 3 others with him pinning the man down and not stopping him, they are also responsible for the repercussions of the actions of that day. | |||
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"What we should be recognizing is governments, police forces and anywhere else that allows this to happen. I’d be amazed if that was the first time that cop did anything racist. The first time anything happened he should be up to a public board. " Not even the first time he'd killed | |||
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"What we should be recognizing is governments, police forces and anywhere else that allows this to happen. I’d be amazed if that was the first time that cop did anything racist. The first time anything happened he should be up to a public board. Not even the first time he'd killed "exactly why the fuck is he out in public, why is no one pulling him up. We love moan but few people take reasonable steps and own them. I can understand rioting when this crap happens. How many peaceful protests have happened in Trumps term alone and nothing changes. | |||
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"What we should be recognizing is governments, police forces and anywhere else that allows this to happen. I’d be amazed if that was the first time that cop did anything racist. The first time anything happened he should be up to a public board. Not even the first time he'd killed
exactly why the fuck is he out in public, why is no one pulling him up. We love moan but few people take reasonable steps and own them.
I can understand rioting when this crap happens. How many peaceful protests have happened in Trumps term alone and nothing changes. "He's been arrested and charged with manslaughter and 3rd degree murder. The riots are about all of the lives lost and violence when officers have kept their jobs and been cleared of crimes. | |||
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"There are a lot of racists on fab. Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing. Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful Dip down into the political forum and you'll find loads of the EDL types and those who think that "trump has got a point", to those who think looting tellies is worse than executing black people suspected of minor crimes. Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad? . Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance...."I'm not suggesting anyone is "baddest". All forms of racism are abhorrent. I call it out when I see it in real life. And I call it out when I see it in the fab forums. | |||
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"There are a lot of racists on fab. Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing. Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful Dip down into the political forum and you'll find loads of the EDL types and those who think that "trump has got a point", to those who think looting tellies is worse than executing black people suspected of minor crimes. Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad? . Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance....
I'm not suggesting anyone is "baddest".
All forms of racism are abhorrent. I call it out when I see it in real life. And I call it out when I see it in the fab forums.
"It didn't look that way to me, my bad. Do you see what I'm saying though. Perception is often what you want to see or hear or what you feel comfortable with, bad is always bad and no bad should be excused..... | |||
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"What we should be recognizing is governments, police forces and anywhere else that allows this to happen. I’d be amazed if that was the first time that cop did anything racist. The first time anything happened he should be up to a public board. Not even the first time he'd killed
exactly why the fuck is he out in public, why is no one pulling him up. We love moan but few people take reasonable steps and own them.
I can understand rioting when this crap happens. How many peaceful protests have happened in Trumps term alone and nothing changes.
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"What we should be recognizing is governments, police forces and anywhere else that allows this to happen. I’d be amazed if that was the first time that cop did anything racist. The first time anything happened he should be up to a public board. Not even the first time he'd killed
exactly why the fuck is he out in public, why is no one pulling him up. We love moan but few people take reasonable steps and own them.
I can understand rioting when this crap happens. How many peaceful protests have happened in Trumps term alone and nothing changes.
He's been arrested and charged with manslaughter and 3rd degree murder. The riots are about all of the lives lost and violence when officers have kept their jobs and been cleared of crimes.
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"There are a lot of racists on fab. Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing. Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful Dip down into the political forum and you'll find loads of the EDL types and those who think that "trump has got a point", to those who think looting tellies is worse than executing black people suspected of minor crimes. Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad? . Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance....
I'm not suggesting anyone is "baddest".
All forms of racism are abhorrent. I call it out when I see it in real life. And I call it out when I see it in the fab forums.
It didn't look that way to me, my bad. Do you see what I'm saying though. Perception is often what you want to see or hear or what you feel comfortable with, bad is always bad and no bad should be excused..... "Sure. But the issue here is institutional racism in the states. People looting tellies is irrelevant to the conversation. Its a tactic used by Trump and other alt right types to divert the conversation away from the real issues. | |||
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"There was a case a few weeks ago in America again! A black man was walking down the street. 2 white men in a truck thought he was someone who burgled them a few years before so they got out of the truck and shot him! They claimed self defence and weren't even arrested. The fact is if you are black some people will always believe you are up to no good. Anyone saying that racism isn't rife and prejudice doesn't happen is lying to themselves. Iv had to stop reading and watching things about whats going on at the moment because I get so angry. Also people's comments make me so sad and worried for our society. " Why we should try and direct our frustrations to the people in power. Fighting amongst each other will only exacerbate it. Unless you see something overtly racist, then yea, call it out. Not easy when people feel marginalized though. | |||
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"The "you are not listening" mantra seems to be in full force on both sides of this thread. Those that say "black lives matter" are as important to listen to as those who say "all lives matter". Both need to be heard and understood, but I am seeing the most intolerance for the latter. Changes will happen when everybody respects and listens to each other without prejudice. " I disagree, I think those saying all lives matter are correct but it is almost always used as a way of dismissing the issue. | |||
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"There are a lot of racists on fab. Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing. Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful Dip down into the political forum and you'll find loads of the EDL types and those who think that "trump has got a point", to those who think looting tellies is worse than executing black people suspected of minor crimes. Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad? . Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance....
I'm not suggesting anyone is "baddest".
All forms of racism are abhorrent. I call it out when I see it in real life. And I call it out when I see it in the fab forums.
It didn't look that way to me, my bad. Do you see what I'm saying though. Perception is often what you want to see or hear or what you feel comfortable with, bad is always bad and no bad should be excused.....
Sure. But the issue here is institutional racism in the states. People looting tellies is irrelevant to the conversation. Its a tactic used by Trump and other alt right types to divert the conversation away from the real issues. "That's opinion though, surely? Looting is bad and you dismissed it just as trump dismissed the original crime, so some ppl will be encouraged to loot by your actions just as some ppl will be encouraged the be racist by the Trump.... Always be spotless in your morality if you want a fair world | |||
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"The "you are not listening" mantra seems to be in full force on both sides of this thread. Those that say "black lives matter" are as important to listen to as those who say "all lives matter". Both need to be heard and understood, but I am seeing the most intolerance for the latter. Changes will happen when everybody respects and listens to each other without prejudice. " Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment? People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue. Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views! | |||
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"The "you are not listening" mantra seems to be in full force on both sides of this thread. Those that say "black lives matter" are as important to listen to as those who say "all lives matter". Both need to be heard and understood, but I am seeing the most intolerance for the latter. Changes will happen when everybody respects and listens to each other without prejudice. " Listening and agreeing are two very different things. People are listening on here or they wouldn't respond. There is a lot of intolerance here but that's because the post is about the issue that's happening. Telling people it's not as big a issue as they believe or claiming that all lives matter when everyone already knows that we should treat people equal just angers supporters of these riots. You are allowed to express your opinion but telling people who disagree with you that they're not listening is counter intuitive | |||
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"The "you are not listening" mantra seems to be in full force on both sides of this thread. Those that say "black lives matter" are as important to listen to as those who say "all lives matter". Both need to be heard and understood, but I am seeing the most intolerance for the latter. Changes will happen when everybody respects and listens to each other without prejudice. Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment? People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue. Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views!" Aww that's plain sad when you lose respect for other humans.... ....how do you expect any respect in return? | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately.
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!
HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!
He died because someone was knealing on his wind pipe.
Stop confusing the facts with your opinion.
No one is saying that isn't true but the problem is why was he killed? The crime didn't fit the response and this is issue. It's also why it's becoming a bigger matter as this happens in the UK aswell.
Unfortunately it was the Police officer involved that made the decision how to handle the situation.
Until the results of the offical enquiry into the man's death are published we can only guess.
In what way is it happening in the UK?
Just look at the recent Windrush scandal or families of people being sent to countries they have never been in because the government can't find their paperwork.
If you're asking if the death of black people by police officers is happening here it does happen but at no where near the levels of the US.
You say it was the police officers decision to act that way but there were 3 others with him pinning the man down and not stopping him, they are also responsible for the repercussions of the actions of that day."Yes I am asking if the deaths of black people by UK Police officers is on the rise. Where is it happening and why? The other officers involved in the incident will obviously be held accountable for thier actions or lack of. Again they made decisions that resulted in a man's death. | |||
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"Coronavirus is not over America is the worst for deaths from covid 19 Black people are 4 times more likely to get this virus can you see what i'm getting at." Far as I know that’s due to vitamin D deficiencies though. Long as they get plenty sunlight or supplements they aren’t any worse off. Although don’t know how well that is being communicated out. | |||
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"There are a lot of racists on fab. Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing. Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful Dip down into the political forum and you'll find loads of the EDL types and those who think that "trump has got a point", to those who think looting tellies is worse than executing black people suspected of minor crimes. Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad? . Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance....
I'm not suggesting anyone is "baddest".
All forms of racism are abhorrent. I call it out when I see it in real life. And I call it out when I see it in the fab forums.
It didn't look that way to me, my bad. Do you see what I'm saying though. Perception is often what you want to see or hear or what you feel comfortable with, bad is always bad and no bad should be excused.....
Sure. But the issue here is institutional racism in the states. People looting tellies is irrelevant to the conversation. Its a tactic used by Trump and other alt right types to divert the conversation away from the real issues.
That's opinion though, surely? Looting is bad and you dismissed it just as trump dismissed the original crime, so some ppl will be encouraged to loot by your actions just as some ppl will be encouraged the be racist by the Trump.... Always be spotless in your morality if you want a fair world "Well done on trying to divert the conversation away from the issue of institutional racism and the murder of black people by the police in America. If you think looting is as bad as the police killing POC on a whim for being suspected of a minor crime. You're part of the problem. | |||
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"The "you are not listening" mantra seems to be in full force on both sides of this thread. Those that say "black lives matter" are as important to listen to as those who say "all lives matter". Both need to be heard and understood, but I am seeing the most intolerance for the latter. Changes will happen when everybody respects and listens to each other without prejudice. I disagree, I think those saying all lives matter are correct but it is almost always used as a way of dismissing the issue. " Is it? How do you know that? Generalising is not helpful. Remember, you are not always dealing with the same level of intellect as you but all should have a voice. | |||
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"The "you are not listening" mantra seems to be in full force on both sides of this thread. Those that say "black lives matter" are as important to listen to as those who say "all lives matter". Both need to be heard and understood, but I am seeing the most intolerance for the latter. Changes will happen when everybody respects and listens to each other without prejudice. Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment? People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue. Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views! Aww that's plain sad when you lose respect for other humans.... ....how do you expect any respect in return? "I am comfortable being a non-racist (it's normal by the way, most people are non-racist). Why do you assume I need or expect any respect from them? | |||
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"The "you are not listening" mantra seems to be in full force on both sides of this thread. Those that say "black lives matter" are as important to listen to as those who say "all lives matter". Both need to be heard and understood, but I am seeing the most intolerance for the latter. Changes will happen when everybody respects and listens to each other without prejudice. Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment? People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue. Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views! Aww that's plain sad when you lose respect for other humans.... ....how do you expect any respect in return? "
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"There are a lot of racists on fab. Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing. Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful Dip down into the political forum and you'll find loads of the EDL types and those who think that "trump has got a point", to those who think looting tellies is worse than executing black people suspected of minor crimes. Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad? . Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance....
I'm not suggesting anyone is "baddest".
All forms of racism are abhorrent. I call it out when I see it in real life. And I call it out when I see it in the fab forums.
It didn't look that way to me, my bad. Do you see what I'm saying though. Perception is often what you want to see or hear or what you feel comfortable with, bad is always bad and no bad should be excused.....
Sure. But the issue here is institutional racism in the states. People looting tellies is irrelevant to the conversation. Its a tactic used by Trump and other alt right types to divert the conversation away from the real issues.
That's opinion though, surely? Looting is bad and you dismissed it just as trump dismissed the original crime, so some ppl will be encouraged to loot by your actions just as some ppl will be encouraged the be racist by the Trump.... Always be spotless in your morality if you want a fair world
Well done on trying to divert the conversation away from the issue of institutional racism and the murder of black people by the police in America.
If you think looting is as bad as the police killing POC on a whim for being suspected of a minor crime. You're part of the problem."I was just asking you to think buddy. If we only deal with the top news headline then everything else falls to shit while we do. Morals need to be spotless on all subjects at all times in order to build a fair society. Wrong is wrong, simple. Name calling and tribalism isn't going to help you to be happy or any folk who are suffering prejudice...
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"The "you are not listening" mantra seems to be in full force on both sides of this thread. Those that say "black lives matter" are as important to listen to as those who say "all lives matter". Both need to be heard and understood, but I am seeing the most intolerance for the latter. Changes will happen when everybody respects and listens to each other without prejudice. Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment? People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue. Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views!" "Normal" people's views??????? Who are you to decide who is "normal" or not? That is an inflammatory statement made by a white person who thinks they are better than others, whether it is intelligence, upbringing or skin colour. You are not, you are equal. | |||
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"The "you are not listening" mantra seems to be in full force on both sides of this thread. Those that say "black lives matter" are as important to listen to as those who say "all lives matter". Both need to be heard and understood, but I am seeing the most intolerance for the latter. Changes will happen when everybody respects and listens to each other without prejudice. Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment? People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue. Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views!" People dont like to be made to feel uncomfortable about a situation they have never been in or circumstances that dont relate to them. Rather than listen and try and understand its all 'what about this' instead to try and stop them feeling bad about things that are pretty fucking awful. | |||
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"The "you are not listening" mantra seems to be in full force on both sides of this thread. Those that say "black lives matter" are as important to listen to as those who say "all lives matter". Both need to be heard and understood, but I am seeing the most intolerance for the latter. Changes will happen when everybody respects and listens to each other without prejudice. I disagree, I think those saying all lives matter are correct but it is almost always used as a way of dismissing the issue. Is it? How do you know that? Generalising is not helpful. Remember, you are not always dealing with the same level of intellect as you but all should have a voice." It might not be intentional but it is always dismissing the issue, that’s why that movement was created. It’s condescending when people try and generalise an issue rather than letting the people who are angry be angry. | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you
He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.
Racism works both ways unfortunately.
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!
HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!
He died because someone was knealing on his wind pipe.
Stop confusing the facts with your opinion.
No one is saying that isn't true but the problem is why was he killed? The crime didn't fit the response and this is issue. It's also why it's becoming a bigger matter as this happens in the UK aswell.
Unfortunately it was the Police officer involved that made the decision how to handle the situation.
Until the results of the offical enquiry into the man's death are published we can only guess.
In what way is it happening in the UK?
Just look at the recent Windrush scandal or families of people being sent to countries they have never been in because the government can't find their paperwork.
If you're asking if the death of black people by police officers is happening here it does happen but at no where near the levels of the US.
You say it was the police officers decision to act that way but there were 3 others with him pinning the man down and not stopping him, they are also responsible for the repercussions of the actions of that day.
Yes I am asking if the deaths of black people by UK Police officers is on the rise. Where is it happening and why?
The other officers involved in the incident will obviously be held accountable for thier actions or lack of. Again they made decisions that resulted in a man's death.
"There hasn't been a rise here or in the US, the riots aren't just about the killing of black people by police officers but the while way they are treated by their governments and police. You say the officers will be held accountable but there have been too many instances of officers getting away with these things regularly. They don't lose there job or get punished beyond taking administrative leave while their friends investigate and claim nothing was wrong. | |||
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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us. We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human ! Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you "Here here Here here | |||
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" This 100%. If you don't know what white privilige is it's because you're white and priviged! " Tell that to the white homeless guy that had all his possessions set fire to by protesters. Tell that to the white guy who died in almost the exact same circumstances as George... Let's see the outrage at the death of a black female police officer in America. Or do black lives only matter if they aren't wearing a badge? This goes deeper than just racism. There needs to be massive changes in the police and the community. In America approximately 13% of the population is black. Black victims account for 52% of murders, with 88% of the suspects/murderers being black. Approximately 52% of police officers murdered on duty are murdered by black people. Drugs, poverty are a huge problem for the black community in the USA and here but to a lesser degree, whether this down to lack of opportunities and education due to racism within the system I don't know. What I do know is that if an American police officer of any sex or colour is called to deal with a black person, their risk assessment is going to be heightened, the black person seeing a police officer is going to have a heightened sense of fear or anger. Straight away something simple has become a tense situation before a single word has been exchanged. People are blaming this squarely on the police. In this particular case the officer is guilty of murder/manslaughter, I don't understand American law but to blame every officer, every white person is wrong. Black, white, Hispanic, Asian people are using this to cause decision, they loot, vandalise, beat people etc they are doing nothing for this cause of for racial harmony. Yet they will stand up and proudly say they did it for George, his family say he would not have wanted this. | |||
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"The "you are not listening" mantra seems to be in full force on both sides of this thread. Those that say "black lives matter" are as important to listen to as those who say "all lives matter". Both need to be heard and understood, but I am seeing the most intolerance for the latter. Changes will happen when everybody respects and listens to each other without prejudice. Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment? People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue. Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views! "Normal" people's views??????? Who are you to decide who is "normal" or not? That is an inflammatory statement made by a white person who thinks they are better than others, whether it is intelligence, upbringing or skin colour. You are not, you are equal." Read carefully and guess from the context..... Nope? "Normal people", in this context are non-racists. There isn't a word for "non-racist", (as far as I know), because it's normal. Hence the phrase "normal people". | |||
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