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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Opted in, what’s the point in keeping them if your dead???
Especially when they could be used to save the life of someone young, surely that would be the greatest gift to give?? |
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"I think it's a great thing. "
I thought the same when I saw your profile pic 
But also yes I think it's a very good thing so long as its clear and easy to opt out (I guess mostly for religious reasons, and those who just hate the idea). Think of all the people who didn't care but never opted in, and how many lives can be saved as a result  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So from today if you don't opt out you are automatically an organ doner. Good or bad?"
Well that's a nice birthday gift to me from t'government innit.
I think it's long overdue. Jist a shame mine probably wouldn't be much good to anyone else these days  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its brilliant but the thought of my 2 children being disected is unimaginably painful. I know the organs would go to amazing places but it terrifies me thinking about it. Its something I need to think about and discuss about with my hubby x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Might be the wrong place to ask but will save me a google, but I can't give blood as I had a transfusion 20yrs ago, would they use my organs? "
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If you don’t or can’t give blood you can still be a potential organ donor.
There may be specific reasons why it has not been possible to donate blood such as having had a blood transfusion (or blood products) since 1 January 1980. Or there may be reasons why you could not give blood because of your health at the time. Sometimes a simple thing like a cold or medication that you are taking can prevent you from donating blood.
The decision about whether some or all organs or tissue are suitable for transplant is always made by a medical specialist at the time of donation, taking into account your medical history.
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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago
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"So from today if you don't opt out you are automatically an organ doner. Good or bad?"
Absolutely brilliant - thousands of lives will now be saved because of this. Organ donation is one of the most selfless final acts a human can commit. An opt-out system is absolutely right. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Your not t there anymore why not bring joy to someone else "
I think there is a worry that a minority of drs won't try as hard to save your life, if they can save another 6.
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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago
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"Its brilliant but the thought of my 2 children being disected is unimaginably painful. I know the organs would go to amazing places but it terrifies me thinking about it. Its something I need to think about and discuss about with my hubby x"
To play devils advocate though I would say this - if your children needed organs to stay alive you would t think twice about accepting them. Also, say the unimaginable happened, would you also want potentially 4/5/6 other mothers to feel the pain of loss as you would be?
Im not trying to smarmy or confrontational, its just a multi-faceted thought process |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Its brilliant but the thought of my 2 children being disected is unimaginably painful. I know the organs would go to amazing places but it terrifies me thinking about it. Its something I need to think about and discuss about with my hubby x
To play devils advocate though I would say this - if your children needed organs to stay alive you would t think twice about accepting them. Also, say the unimaginable happened, would you also want potentially 4/5/6 other mothers to feel the pain of loss as you would be?
Im not trying to smarmy or confrontational, its just a multi-faceted thought process"
You are spot on with what your saying and to save others i couldn't refuse but just the thought. Id never recover losing them as it is. It makes me cry thinking about it. X |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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To play devils advocate though I would say this - if your children needed organs to stay alive you would t think twice about accepting them. Also, say the unimaginable happened, would you also want potentially 4/5/6 other mothers to feel the pain of loss as you would be?
Im not trying to smarmy or confrontational, its just a multi-faceted thought process"
This doesn't apply to children, its adults only.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You can not give consent to something you've not been told about (at the time) and just because you consented in the past doesn't mean you consent in the present.
I find it confusing we chose to move one way when it comes to sexual activity and the opposite way when it comes to organ donation. People who choose to donate and wonderful but that doesn't make this scheme right. In my humble and possibly wrong opinion. |
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"Might be the wrong place to ask but will save me a google, but I can't give blood as I had a transfusion 20yrs ago, would they use my organs?
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If you don’t or can’t give blood you can still be a potential organ donor.
There may be specific reasons why it has not been possible to donate blood such as having had a blood transfusion (or blood products) since 1 January 1980. Or there may be reasons why you could not give blood because of your health at the time. Sometimes a simple thing like a cold or medication that you are taking can prevent you from donating blood.
The decision about whether some or all organs or tissue are suitable for transplant is always made by a medical specialist at the time of donation, taking into account your medical history.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To play devils advocate though I would say this - if your children needed organs to stay alive you would t think twice about accepting them. Also, say the unimaginable happened, would you also want potentially 4/5/6 other mothers to feel the pain of loss as you would be?
Im not trying to smarmy or confrontational, its just a multi-faceted thought process
This doesn't apply to children, its adults only.
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Ah ok, thankyou as I didnt know that x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"My opinion is if you would happily receive an organ to stay alive then absolutely you should be an automatic donor.
Yes I think along the same lines  "
I used to think this but then doesn't that open up a can of worms? If you dont pay as much tax as treatment you received from the nhs you will be cut off?
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Not good for whoever gets my liver.
Actually sorry for the flippancy, I generally think it’s a good thing, however I struggle with the ethics of it sometimes.
On the whole though it’s wonderful if a life can be saved. |
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"So from today if you don't opt out you are automatically an organ doner. Good or bad?"
As long as they wait till I've finished using them, I think it's great.
If I wake up tomorrow morning with one of my kidneys missing however... I'll be less in favour.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Good. It’s estimated to save 700 lives in the UK each year. I opted in around age 20 and Had the conversation with my family. I doubt I’d ever feel differently about it. If anyone doesn’t want to do it the process for opting out is easy, as it should be. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Good... I have been on the register most of my adult life... If there is anything worth taking, by the time I die, they are welcome to it! Why wouldn't they be? I won't care, or need it and nor will my family |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Personally, I think it is very good.
Been there, when those conversations had with relatives have been done. It is much easier if the family comes forward first.
Also been there when it has been done. I always coped with it knowing so many more people were getting an opportunity to live now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ah ok, thankyou as I didnt know that x
To be honest, the information hasn't been well published, I only saw it this morning. "
I think it's brilliant news, saw it last night.
But I also think they should publicise it very widely so that people are informed. |
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I opted in a long time ago and won't be opting out now.
I understand why this move has been made but I wouldn't want to be a medical professional having an argument with a grieving family about why they took organs without anybody's explicit consent. It sounds a bit authoritarian to me. Luke |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What if you're a match to somebody and they've got shitloads of money and no morals and they want your organ, but you're very much alive and well, but they really want it and you're in as a organ donor.... |
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Obviously the card system isn’t working (I hold one) and people are dying due to a lack of organs, so in this case I’m more than happy for this to be available to our Doctors.
No issues with the eyes either |
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Best thing ever.
I've always opted in and have sorted out that when I die my whole body is donated to medical science if they will take it.
When you find out what can be done with your body once you die and the help it can bring to others it's a no brainer I think.
My dad did the same and his body was used for a seminar 2 weeks after his death to teach around 40 surgeons and cancer specialists how to treat his extremely aggressive and rare form of cancer and that could help hundreds of others to live.
Hopefully nobody will ever need anything from my body but I like to think that in my death, someone else can live and appreciate life all the more because of it. |
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"They will still ask your nok so if you have strong feelings against then make sure they know your wishes/opt out. The criteria for donation is quite specific so it's not always appropriate."
True and that’s why I’ve changed my nok and stated who my nominated person is to make that choice and respect my wishes |
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Ive had a doner card since I was able to choose for myself.
Around 14 year old
But since they forced it ive removed that right and no longer carry one.
Its also recorded at the doctors of being a donor and also recorded of why ive removed it. |
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"Best thing ever.
I've always opted in and have sorted out that when I die my whole body is donated to medical science if they will take it.
When you find out what can be done with your body once you die and the help it can bring to others it's a no brainer I think.
My dad did the same and his body was used for a seminar 2 weeks after his death to teach around 40 surgeons and cancer specialists how to treat his extremely aggressive and rare form of cancer and that could help hundreds of others to live.
Hopefully nobody will ever need anything from my body but I like to think that in my death, someone else can live and appreciate life all the more because of it."
That's amazing! |
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"Ive had a doner card since I was able to choose for myself.
Around 14 year old
But since they forced it ive removed that right and no longer carry one.
Its also recorded at the doctors of being a donor and also recorded of why ive removed it."
May I ask your reason, feel free to pm if you’d rather not discuss in public. |
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"Best thing ever.
I've always opted in and have sorted out that when I die my whole body is donated to medical science if they will take it.
When you find out what can be done with your body once you die and the help it can bring to others it's a no brainer I think.
My dad did the same and his body was used for a seminar 2 weeks after his death to teach around 40 surgeons and cancer specialists how to treat his extremely aggressive and rare form of cancer and that could help hundreds of others to live.
Hopefully nobody will ever need anything from my body but I like to think that in my death, someone else can live and appreciate life all the more because of it.
That's amazing! "
It's pretty damn cool, you have lots of options of what you can donate and how long they can keep your body for and also what they do with it when they've done all they need to with it.
It's an amazing if currently small system.
I had a surgilig strap put into my shoulder about 10 yrs ago and the scar is about 6inches long and 12 weeks recovery time.
They bought an American soldiers shoulder and developed keyhole surgery using it and now the operation is done through keyhole and 4 weeks recovery time. They had to buy in as there were no UK body parts available.
It sounds kind of bad like that but it's an incredible way of advancing medicine. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Best thing ever.
I've always opted in and have sorted out that when I die my whole body is donated to medical science if they will take it.
When you find out what can be done with your body once you die and the help it can bring to others it's a no brainer I think.
My dad did the same and his body was used for a seminar 2 weeks after his death to teach around 40 surgeons and cancer specialists how to treat his extremely aggressive and rare form of cancer and that could help hundreds of others to live.
Hopefully nobody will ever need anything from my body but I like to think that in my death, someone else can live and appreciate life all the more because of it.
That's amazing!
It's pretty damn cool, you have lots of options of what you can donate and how long they can keep your body for and also what they do with it when they've done all they need to with it.
It's an amazing if currently small system.
I had a surgilig strap put into my shoulder about 10 yrs ago and the scar is about 6inches long and 12 weeks recovery time.
They bought an American soldiers shoulder and developed keyhole surgery using it and now the operation is done through keyhole and 4 weeks recovery time. They had to buy in as there were no UK body parts available.
It sounds kind of bad like that but it's an incredible way of advancing medicine."
I don't think it sounds bad at all. They need to learn and practise.
I went to BodyWorlds last year and it was brilliant. Educational and inspiring too.
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I don't think it sounds bad at all. They need to learn and practise.
I went to BodyWorlds last year and it was brilliant. Educational and inspiring too.
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That's just gone on my list of things to do once lockdown is over, it looks brilliant |
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"Best thing ever.
I've always opted in and have sorted out that when I die my whole body is donated to medical science if they will take it.
When you find out what can be done with your body once you die and the help it can bring to others it's a no brainer I think.
My dad did the same and his body was used for a seminar 2 weeks after his death to teach around 40 surgeons and cancer specialists how to treat his extremely aggressive and rare form of cancer and that could help hundreds of others to live.
Hopefully nobody will ever need anything from my body but I like to think that in my death, someone else can live and appreciate life all the more because of it.
That's amazing!
It's pretty damn cool, you have lots of options of what you can donate and how long they can keep your body for and also what they do with it when they've done all they need to with it.
It's an amazing if currently small system.
I had a surgilig strap put into my shoulder about 10 yrs ago and the scar is about 6inches long and 12 weeks recovery time.
They bought an American soldiers shoulder and developed keyhole surgery using it and now the operation is done through keyhole and 4 weeks recovery time. They had to buy in as there were no UK body parts available.
It sounds kind of bad like that but it's an incredible way of advancing medicine.
I don't think it sounds bad at all. They need to learn and practise.
I went to BodyWorlds last year and it was brilliant. Educational and inspiring too.
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I saw the animal version of this a couple of years ago, all animals that had died naturally, it was amazing |
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I've always wondered about what if you're in an accident where you're 50/50 on surviving, are they going to fight as hard to keep you alive or just let you go and harvest you? Some people do manage to recover against all the odds.... |
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"I've always wondered about what if you're in an accident where you're 50/50 on surviving, are they going to fight as hard to keep you alive or just let you go and harvest you? Some people do manage to recover against all the odds...."
I'm fairly sure you have to be dead first  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think it's a good thing, I've been opted in for ages and I think it makes sense to have that as the default and just have those that want to opt out be able to do so.
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over a year ago
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I've had donor card for the last 25 years. If i can help someone else to live when i die, then hopefully it'll help balance up the scales when i'm getting judged at the pearly gates. |
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I think there are three types of people on this:
1-They definitely want to donate
2-They don’t care
3-They definitely don’t want to donate.
Previously organs would only be available from 1. Now they are available from 1 & 2. The ones who don’t care will carry on not caring, people in the 3 category will opt out.
So in my opinion it’s a win for anyone unlucky enough to be in a situation that requires a transplant, as more organs should be available. |
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"I've had donor card for the last 25 years. If i can help someone else to live when i die, then hopefully it'll help balance up the scales when i'm getting judged at the pearly gates."
On this website, you’re an optimist |
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"If somebody cares, for whatever reason, they'll opt out. Otherwise you're helping save lives. So I'd say good."
But that argument didn't work the other way.
One would have thought that if anyone cared for whatever reason would have opted in? They didn't have enough people who cared, so they had to change it. |
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"I've had donor card for the last 25 years. If i can help someone else to live when i die, then hopefully it'll help balance up the scales when i'm getting judged at the pearly gates.
On this website, you’re an optimist "
The glass is always half full, until it's empty. |
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"If somebody cares, for whatever reason, they'll opt out. Otherwise you're helping save lives. So I'd say good.
But that argument didn't work the other way.
One would have thought that if anyone cared for whatever reason would have opted in? They didn't have enough people who cared, so they had to change it."
You still have to register your wishes either in or out, Choose what they can use; it is not an automatic they will use your organs against your wishes or indeed your faith or religious beliefs.
All of these can be changed at anytime, it’s not I’ve made my decision and that’s that for the rest of your life |
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"If somebody cares, for whatever reason, they'll opt out. Otherwise you're helping save lives. So I'd say good.
But that argument didn't work the other way.
One would have thought that if anyone cared for whatever reason would have opted in? They didn't have enough people who cared, so they had to change it.
You still have to register your wishes either in or out, Choose what they can use; it is not an automatic they will use your organs against your wishes or indeed your faith or religious beliefs.
All of these can be changed at anytime, it’s not I’ve made my decision and that’s that for the rest of your life "
S o just to clarify, are we automatically opted in our out? |
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"If somebody cares, for whatever reason, they'll opt out. Otherwise you're helping save lives. So I'd say good.
But that argument didn't work the other way.
One would have thought that if anyone cared for whatever reason would have opted in? They didn't have enough people who cared, so they had to change it.
You still have to register your wishes either in or out, Choose what they can use; it is not an automatic they will use your organs against your wishes or indeed your faith or religious beliefs.
All of these can be changed at anytime, it’s not I’ve made my decision and that’s that for the rest of your life
S o just to clarify, are we automatically opted in our out?"
Automatically opted in unless of course you opt out, this is for life (till death) unless you decide to opt out at a later stage, by which stage you may have dismissed the idea and have forgotten.
Hope that's clear. |
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"If somebody cares, for whatever reason, they'll opt out. Otherwise you're helping save lives. So I'd say good.
But that argument didn't work the other way.
One would have thought that if anyone cared for whatever reason would have opted in? They didn't have enough people who cared, so they had to change it.
You still have to register your wishes either in or out, Choose what they can use; it is not an automatic they will use your organs against your wishes or indeed your faith or religious beliefs.
All of these can be changed at anytime, it’s not I’ve made my decision and that’s that for the rest of your life
S o just to clarify, are we automatically opted in our out?
Automatically opted in unless of course you opt out, this is for life (till death) unless you decide to opt out at a later stage, by which stage you may have dismissed the idea and have forgotten.
Hope that's clear. "
either way you still need to register your decision and your family will still be consulted. Saying yes or no, saves a lot of heartache for your family making the choice or going against your wishes
https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/uk-laws/organ-donation-law-in-england/ |
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"If somebody cares, for whatever reason, they'll opt out. Otherwise you're helping save lives. So I'd say good.
But that argument didn't work the other way.
One would have thought that if anyone cared for whatever reason would have opted in? They didn't have enough people who cared, so they had to change it.
You still have to register your wishes either in or out, Choose what they can use; it is not an automatic they will use your organs against your wishes or indeed your faith or religious beliefs.
All of these can be changed at anytime, it’s not I’ve made my decision and that’s that for the rest of your life
S o just to clarify, are we automatically opted in our out?
Automatically opted in unless of course you opt out, this is for life (till death) unless you decide to opt out at a later stage, by which stage you may have dismissed the idea and have forgotten.
Hope that's clear.
either way you still need to register your decision and your family will still be consulted. Saying yes or no, saves a lot of heartache for your family making the choice or going against your wishes
https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/uk-laws/organ-donation-law-in-england/"
This now were it will get messy. When the permission to take is removed and assumed. What can families do or say about it? |
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"If somebody cares, for whatever reason, they'll opt out. Otherwise you're helping save lives. So I'd say good.
But that argument didn't work the other way.
One would have thought that if anyone cared for whatever reason would have opted in? They didn't have enough people who cared, so they had to change it.
You still have to register your wishes either in or out, Choose what they can use; it is not an automatic they will use your organs against your wishes or indeed your faith or religious beliefs.
All of these can be changed at anytime, it’s not I’ve made my decision and that’s that for the rest of your life
S o just to clarify, are we automatically opted in our out?
Automatically opted in unless of course you opt out, this is for life (till death) unless you decide to opt out at a later stage, by which stage you may have dismissed the idea and have forgotten.
Hope that's clear.
either way you still need to register your decision and your family will still be consulted. Saying yes or no, saves a lot of heartache for your family making the choice or going against your wishes
https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/uk-laws/organ-donation-law-in-england/
This now were it will get messy. When the permission to take is removed and assumed. What can families do or say about it?"
So if register says yes and families say no, then what happens? |
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"If somebody cares, for whatever reason, they'll opt out. Otherwise you're helping save lives. So I'd say good.
But that argument didn't work the other way.
One would have thought that if anyone cared for whatever reason would have opted in? They didn't have enough people who cared, so they had to change it.
You still have to register your wishes either in or out, Choose what they can use; it is not an automatic they will use your organs against your wishes or indeed your faith or religious beliefs.
All of these can be changed at anytime, it’s not I’ve made my decision and that’s that for the rest of your life
S o just to clarify, are we automatically opted in our out?
Automatically opted in unless of course you opt out, this is for life (till death) unless you decide to opt out at a later stage, by which stage you may have dismissed the idea and have forgotten.
Hope that's clear.
either way you still need to register your decision and your family will still be consulted. Saying yes or no, saves a lot of heartache for your family making the choice or going against your wishes
https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/uk-laws/organ-donation-law-in-england/
This now were it will get messy. When the permission to take is removed and assumed. What can families do or say about it?
So if register says yes and families say no, then what happens?"
Would a hospital want to go against family wishes? Would they want this type of publucity? Possible court issues?
I imagine they would raise it with the family in passing that the deceased hadn't signed to say not to use and therefore they have the right to use the body parts for a waiting recipient. Logic would say in this situation the family m_mbers may not be in as rational mind set as one would if the hospital showed a document signed by the deceased that they had agreed to be a diner. As I said it's now made it really messy and don't agree with how this has been done.
One reason I wasn't jumping around thinking this is the great idea that many seem to think. |
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"If somebody cares, for whatever reason, they'll opt out. Otherwise you're helping save lives. So I'd say good.
But that argument didn't work the other way.
One would have thought that if anyone cared for whatever reason would have opted in? They didn't have enough people who cared, so they had to change it.
You still have to register your wishes either in or out, Choose what they can use; it is not an automatic they will use your organs against your wishes or indeed your faith or religious beliefs.
All of these can be changed at anytime, it’s not I’ve made my decision and that’s that for the rest of your life
S o just to clarify, are we automatically opted in our out?
Automatically opted in unless of course you opt out, this is for life (till death) unless you decide to opt out at a later stage, by which stage you may have dismissed the idea and have forgotten.
Hope that's clear.
either way you still need to register your decision and your family will still be consulted. Saying yes or no, saves a lot of heartache for your family making the choice or going against your wishes
https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/uk-laws/organ-donation-law-in-england/
This now were it will get messy. When the permission to take is removed and assumed. What can families do or say about it?"
Which is why you should have your chat with your family about your wishes. I changed my nok on all my paperwork to my mother, as my father couldn’t see my side of it. Once my lad is old enough he will become my nok and already knows my wishes and will follow them, as he believes in helping others after death or indeed medical science. |
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"If somebody cares, for whatever reason, they'll opt out. Otherwise you're helping save lives. So I'd say good.
But that argument didn't work the other way.
One would have thought that if anyone cared for whatever reason would have opted in? They didn't have enough people who cared, so they had to change it.
You still have to register your wishes either in or out, Choose what they can use; it is not an automatic they will use your organs against your wishes or indeed your faith or religious beliefs.
All of these can be changed at anytime, it’s not I’ve made my decision and that’s that for the rest of your life
S o just to clarify, are we automatically opted in our out?
Automatically opted in unless of course you opt out, this is for life (till death) unless you decide to opt out at a later stage, by which stage you may have dismissed the idea and have forgotten.
Hope that's clear.
either way you still need to register your decision and your family will still be consulted. Saying yes or no, saves a lot of heartache for your family making the choice or going against your wishes
https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/uk-laws/organ-donation-law-in-england/
This now were it will get messy. When the permission to take is removed and assumed. What can families do or say about it?
Which is why you should have your chat with your family about your wishes. I changed my nok on all my paperwork to my mother, as my father couldn’t see my side of it. Once my lad is old enough he will become my nok and already knows my wishes and will follow them, as he believes in helping others after death or indeed medical science. "
Completely agree. But this is now no longer the case. What we have now is default that they assume you and family have agreed to being a doner, even if you actually haven't on the basis you haven't done anything. It's now become messy. |
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"If somebody cares, for whatever reason, they'll opt out. Otherwise you're helping save lives. So I'd say good.
But that argument didn't work the other way.
One would have thought that if anyone cared for whatever reason would have opted in? They didn't have enough people who cared, so they had to change it.
You still have to register your wishes either in or out, Choose what they can use; it is not an automatic they will use your organs against your wishes or indeed your faith or religious beliefs.
All of these can be changed at anytime, it’s not I’ve made my decision and that’s that for the rest of your life
S o just to clarify, are we automatically opted in our out?
Automatically opted in unless of course you opt out, this is for life (till death) unless you decide to opt out at a later stage, by which stage you may have dismissed the idea and have forgotten.
Hope that's clear.
either way you still need to register your decision and your family will still be consulted. Saying yes or no, saves a lot of heartache for your family making the choice or going against your wishes
https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/uk-laws/organ-donation-law-in-england/
This now were it will get messy. When the permission to take is removed and assumed. What can families do or say about it?
So if register says yes and families say no, then what happens?
Would a hospital want to go against family wishes? Would they want this type of publucity? Possible court issues?
I imagine they would raise it with the family in passing that the deceased hadn't signed to say not to use and therefore they have the right to use the body parts for a waiting recipient. Logic would say in this situation the family m_mbers may not be in as rational mind set as one would if the hospital showed a document signed by the deceased that they had agreed to be a diner. As I said it's now made it really messy and don't agree with how this has been done.
One reason I wasn't jumping around thinking this is the great idea that many seem to think."
I understand this and that it is why it is important that you register your wishes yes or no the database and have the chat with your family, so everyone is clear what you want. If you find yourself at loggerheads with family you can choose, with that person’s permission, an individual to act on your behalf
It’s all about communicating and being clear |
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"If somebody cares, for whatever reason, they'll opt out. Otherwise you're helping save lives. So I'd say good.
But that argument didn't work the other way.
One would have thought that if anyone cared for whatever reason would have opted in? They didn't have enough people who cared, so they had to change it.
You still have to register your wishes either in or out, Choose what they can use; it is not an automatic they will use your organs against your wishes or indeed your faith or religious beliefs.
All of these can be changed at anytime, it’s not I’ve made my decision and that’s that for the rest of your life
S o just to clarify, are we automatically opted in our out?
Automatically opted in unless of course you opt out, this is for life (till death) unless you decide to opt out at a later stage, by which stage you may have dismissed the idea and have forgotten.
Hope that's clear.
either way you still need to register your decision and your family will still be consulted. Saying yes or no, saves a lot of heartache for your family making the choice or going against your wishes
https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/uk-laws/organ-donation-law-in-england/
This now were it will get messy. When the permission to take is removed and assumed. What can families do or say about it?
Which is why you should have your chat with your family about your wishes. I changed my nok on all my paperwork to my mother, as my father couldn’t see my side of it. Once my lad is old enough he will become my nok and already knows my wishes and will follow them, as he believes in helping others after death or indeed medical science.
Completely agree. But this is now no longer the case. What we have now is default that they assume you and family have agreed to being a doner, even if you actually haven't on the basis you haven't done anything. It's now become messy."
It still is the case, read the link and the change in law that’s now in. Your family will always be talked to before any organ donation for various reasons from something could have happened that would make you change your mind, your recent travel and health history, etc
It is not you die and they just take the organs they want. It’s trying to cut out the hard decision a family needs to make at a time when their world is falling apart, by knowing the individuals wishes prior to an accident / death |
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"If somebody cares, for whatever reason, they'll opt out. Otherwise you're helping save lives. So I'd say good.
But that argument didn't work the other way.
One would have thought that if anyone cared for whatever reason would have opted in? They didn't have enough people who cared, so they had to change it.
You still have to register your wishes either in or out, Choose what they can use; it is not an automatic they will use your organs against your wishes or indeed your faith or religious beliefs.
All of these can be changed at anytime, it’s not I’ve made my decision and that’s that for the rest of your life
S o just to clarify, are we automatically opted in our out?
Automatically opted in unless of course you opt out, this is for life (till death) unless you decide to opt out at a later stage, by which stage you may have dismissed the idea and have forgotten.
Hope that's clear.
either way you still need to register your decision and your family will still be consulted. Saying yes or no, saves a lot of heartache for your family making the choice or going against your wishes
https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/uk-laws/organ-donation-law-in-england/
This now were it will get messy. When the permission to take is removed and assumed. What can families do or say about it?
Which is why you should have your chat with your family about your wishes. I changed my nok on all my paperwork to my mother, as my father couldn’t see my side of it. Once my lad is old enough he will become my nok and already knows my wishes and will follow them, as he believes in helping others after death or indeed medical science.
Completely agree. But this is now no longer the case. What we have now is default that they assume you and family have agreed to being a doner, even if you actually haven't on the basis you haven't done anything. It's now become messy.
It still is the case, read the link and the change in law that’s now in. Your family will always be talked to before any organ donation for various reasons from something could have happened that would make you change your mind, your recent travel and health history, etc
It is not you die and they just take the organs they want. It’s trying to cut out the hard decision a family needs to make at a time when their world is falling apart, by knowing the individuals wishes prior to an accident / death "
This is the bit that really annoys me. It's nothing to do with my family or nok. It's my body, my choice. I've had a donor card since Jesus were a lad. I also signed up to the organ donor site years ago.  |
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"Ive had a doner card since I was able to choose for myself.
Around 14 year old
But since they forced it ive removed that right and no longer carry one.
Its also recorded at the doctors of being a donor and also recorded of why ive removed it.
May I ask your reason, feel free to pm if you’d rather not discuss in public."
Im not bothered about it being in public view as its my choice.
id decided years ago to have a donor card by my own choice to carry one
voluntary recorded both on doctors notes as well as a card to carry.
I dont agree with mandatory donor as not every organ is used or will be used compatability issues
once it became forced I removed the consent to be a donor at doctors and also binned the doner card.
I believe it should be everyones choice to become a donor or not to do.
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"Presumed or implied consent is never a good thing"
Whilst alive true
Dead an opt out is better
I was a doner before
I hope very few opt out
They can have my eyes
I'm also negotiating my body being left to Leicester university
Some stupid rules concerning whole bodies
Else wanted brain to cambridge parts to help others
What's left to research
But its complicated
But no if you cant be bothered to opt out your bits should be used imo |
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for me it a simple matter.
A single organ donor may save up to eight people and a single tissue donor may enhance the lives of up to 50 people. You have the power to save lives and improve the quality of life of those in need of any form of transplant.
Organs that can be donated for transplant:
Heart
Lungs
Liver
Kidneys
Pancreas
Intestines
Tissue that can be donated for transplant:
Corneas
Bone/tendon
Vein/artery
Heart valves
Skin
being slightly morbid, I wont need them, they will be buried or cremated. so why not help others in need as a final act of kindness? ? ? ? ? ?
my daughter made her own decision to donate all of her organs etc. she came home with a donor card and wanted me to sign it because she was only 11 at the time. |
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"for me it a simple matter.
A single organ donor may save up to eight people and a single tissue donor may enhance the lives of up to 50 people. You have the power to save lives and improve the quality of life of those in need of any form of transplant.
Organs that can be donated for transplant:
Heart
Lungs
Liver
Kidneys
Pancreas
Intestines
Tissue that can be donated for transplant:
Corneas
Bone/tendon
Vein/artery
Heart valves
Skin
being slightly morbid, I wont need them, they will be buried or cremated. so why not help others in need as a final act of kindness? ? ? ? ? ?
my daughter made her own decision to donate all of her organs etc. she came home with a donor card and wanted me to sign it because she was only 11 at the time."
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"Presumed or implied consent is never a good thing
Whilst alive true
Dead an opt out is better
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Absolutely disagree. Death is an integral part of life. The thought of never dying would terrify me. We seem to have become obsessed with the idea that longer and longer lives are somehow a good thing. |
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Personally I feel it’s a good thing, I’ve been registered for many years.
Not meaning to sound not empathetic but if you’re clinically dead but being kept alive with machines, what are you going to do with your organs?
You don’t need them when you’re dead, may seem insensitive but there’s many people dying needlessly, as a parent as well if either of my children were kept alive by a machine I’d donate their organs, it’s something that we have discussed, the only thing they have declined is their corneas.
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"for me it a simple matter.
A single organ donor may save up to eight people and a single tissue donor may enhance the lives of up to 50 people. You have the power to save lives and improve the quality of life of those in need of any form of transplant.
Organs that can be donated for transplant:
Heart
Lungs
Liver
Kidneys
Pancreas
Intestines
Tissue that can be donated for transplant:
Corneas
Bone/tendon
Vein/artery
Heart valves
Skin
being slightly morbid, I wont need them, they will be buried or cremated. so why not help others in need as a final act of kindness? ? ? ? ? ?
my daughter made her own decision to donate all of her organs etc. she came home with a donor card and wanted me to sign it because she was only 11 at the time."
My son is 12 and also announced that he wishes to be a donor, it’s something we hadn’t discussed with him until he bought it up. He just wants to save someone else if he’s no longer living |
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"Its fair, it should be compulsory if you want free nhs, same with blood. if you dont like it they should ask for a fee on any visit to the nhs."
Absolutely, so long as I get a reduction in my taxes which are used to fund the NHS  |
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I can only see it as a good thing. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want to help someone else when you no longer need your bits.
And I'm calling BS on Drs not saving your life I order to use the organs in others. Different departments etc I feel that's just an excuse because people don't want to do it. |
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"Its fair, it should be compulsory if you want free nhs, same with blood. if you dont like it they should ask for a fee on any visit to the nhs."
Sorry don't see how you think for one minute the NHS is free in any way.
Never has been free, generations have been paying for it through taxes and NI. It's the government who doesn't invest what was payed to them for the service who have caused the crisis. (Only 1/4 of your NI is allocated to the NHS) |
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I've always had a donor card, but i am unclear on this.
If a person had previously made a will, and it is legally sound. If the will states no donation of organs, does it still stand, or does it have to be update, or do you still have to opt out? |
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"I've always had a donor card, but i am unclear on this.
If a person had previously made a will, and it is legally sound. If the will states no donation of organs, does it still stand, or does it have to be update, or do you still have to opt out? "
the statement has to be in your medical files as thats the first point of call when your in hospital.
Therefore your organs would be shared as your opted in by default.
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