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Not interested in engaging with "HAAAA as if there are only 12 types of person in the world" replies
Anyone intrigued, puzzled by, compelled, interested in, studied, follows, mystified, relishes astrology?
Of course, how could anyone have correlated any kinda of system of stars to behaviour, its bonkers,and especially thousands of years ago.
And yet.. to me, it does seem like there is something there.
Full disclosure-
Leo sun, Libra moon, Gemini rising, Gemini venus, Cancer mars |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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I have a few spiritual beliefs but not astrology no.
But last month we were camping out often and I was star watching when Venus came into Taurus at the start of the month , then there was the super moon I got a bit interested for a while and used a lens and an app to learn some stuff. It’s fascinating and I can see how if your into it, it can change things in how you make decisions. We know the sun, moon and lunar cycles affect us and the planet so wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if the planets did. |
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If astrologers had predicted this pandemic I might be tempted to investigate further but as far as I know they didn't.
I acknowledge that the moon influences tides and that behavioural changes can be observed in animals and humans at full moon but I don't believe that the planets influence our future or personality. |
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"Not interested in engaging with "HAAAA as if there are only 12 types of person in the world" replies
Anyone intrigued, puzzled by, compelled, interested in, studied, follows, mystified, relishes astrology?
Of course, how could anyone have correlated any kinda of system of stars to behaviour, its bonkers,and especially thousands of years ago.
And yet.. to me, it does seem like there is something there.
Full disclosure-
Leo sun, Libra moon, Gemini rising, Gemini venus, Cancer mars"
I have two opinions on this
One, nope I think the whole concept utter nonsense
Two, many ladies truly believe and love men who are into the mysterious depths of star signs
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Im am an astrologer & its a lot more complex than the 12 signs & 7 planets. Takes days to analyse & complete a natal chart and no 2 are the same - even those born on the same day.
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"I won’t bother with Aquarian’s, way too cold and emotionless for me. "
Do you actually ask people their star sign? I honestly couldn’t even tell you what my kids star signs are!  |
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"Im am an astrologer & its a lot more complex than the 12 signs & 7 planets. Takes days to analyse & complete a natal chart and no 2 are the same - even those born on the same day.
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"Im am an astrologer & its a lot more complex than the 12 signs & 7 planets. Takes days to analyse & complete a natal chart and no 2 are the same - even those born on the same day.
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Creative writing is complex
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"Im am an astrologer & its a lot more complex than the 12 signs & 7 planets. Takes days to analyse & complete a natal chart and no 2 are the same - even those born on the same day.
Creative writing is complex
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"Im am an astrologer & its a lot more complex than the 12 signs & 7 planets. Takes days to analyse & complete a natal chart and no 2 are the same - even those born on the same day.
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And here's the crux you could spend decades studying mine and have zero insight
As the basis is non sense
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"Im am an astrologer & its a lot more complex than the 12 signs & 7 planets. Takes days to analyse & complete a natal chart and no 2 are the same - even those born on the same day.
Creative writing is complex
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"I won’t bother with Aquarian’s, way too cold and emotionless for me.
Do you actually ask people their star sign? I honestly couldn’t even tell you what my kids star signs are! "
I ask when their birthdays are and work it out myself.
I never had any romantic dealings with Aquarius people before my most recent ex. My sister and two of my friends are both Aquarius and I’ve always know them to be able to be really cold with people. The guy I knew was nice to me always but never showed emotion and was quite introvert, when I’ve read into it’s quite a common trait within this group! |
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Much like with Clairvoyance and Mediumship those that believe will believe, and those that don’t, won’t.
Some would argue that if you throw out lots of generalisms then those that ‘ring true’ will convince you it’s true, whereas you overlook the stuff that doesn’t fit.
Eg if I say a lot of stuff about you, like you’re sensitive, bold, strong willed, missing someone etc then even if 50% of it is true, and 50% isn’t, you focus in on the 50% true or relatable stuff and it seems like they really know you and get you and hence their particular “talent” works ... |
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"Much like with Clairvoyance and Mediumship those that believe will believe, and those that don’t, won’t.
Some would argue that if you throw out lots of generalisms then those that ‘ring true’ will convince you it’s true, whereas you overlook the stuff that doesn’t fit.
Eg if I say a lot of stuff about you, like you’re sensitive, bold, strong willed, missing someone etc then even if 50% of it is true, and 50% isn’t, you focus in on the 50% true or relatable stuff and it seems like they really know you and get you and hence their particular “talent” works ... "
Huh? Run that by me again  |
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"Much like with Clairvoyance and Mediumship those that believe will believe, and those that don’t, won’t.
Some would argue that if you throw out lots of generalisms then those that ‘ring true’ will convince you it’s true, whereas you overlook the stuff that doesn’t fit.
Eg if I say a lot of stuff about you, like you’re sensitive, bold, strong willed, missing someone etc then even if 50% of it is true, and 50% isn’t, you focus in on the 50% true or relatable stuff and it seems like they really know you and get you and hence their particular “talent” works ...
Huh? Run that by me again "
It’s like this ... imagine I stopped 20 randomers in a high street and told them I could read their personality and tell their fortune.
For each one I used EXACTLY the same words: e.g.
“People think you’re strong and in control, but really underneath you have and hide all your doubts and fears.”
“People often underestimate you - but you’re more capable / intelligent / cunning than they think”
“Things have been tough recently but soon news about a child will delight you”
The first two statements I would suggest that 75% of people would say rings true to them and they would think I’m some sort of mystical genius for being able to read their personality.
The last one is open ended and vague.
Your daughter becomes pregnant? Little Annie passes her swimming certificate? Your nephew has got into that university he had down as first choice.... gosh, Dan is a genius. How the hell could he have predicted that!
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Mediums and clairvoyants and the like are completely different to astrology.
I’ve been to some really good ones in the past.
The one I went to in November was a tarot reader and I love tarot because it’s something I’m more in control of rather than them just telling me random things.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Full disclosure here: We think astrology is a load of old tosh.
If you make predictions vague enough then you can fool people. What has astrology ever worked out that is really specific? "
Couldn’t agree more |
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"Full disclosure here: We think astrology is a load of old tosh.
If you make predictions vague enough then you can fool people. What has astrology ever worked out that is really specific? "
I'm very spiritual, passionate and interested in many things
When people scoff and ask me to 'prove' something I just 'feel' or 'know' (that they can't see physical evidence of) I ask them to prove it isn't there or hasn't happened. They can't...
You either get it or you don't
Also interesting that many scientists are now agreeing with things they'd long ridiculed.... |
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"Full disclosure here: We think astrology is a load of old tosh.
If you make predictions vague enough then you can fool people. What has astrology ever worked out that is really specific?
I'm very spiritual, passionate and interested in many things
When people scoff and ask me to 'prove' something I just 'feel' or 'know' (that they can't see physical evidence of) I ask them to prove it isn't there or hasn't happened. They can't...
You either get it or you don't
Also interesting that many scientists are now agreeing with things they'd long ridiculed...."
The burden of proof lies with the one who makes the claim. It's not up to anybody to prove somebody wrong. It's up to the claimant to prove themselves right.
Scientists who accept things that were once thought bonkers then hopefully they do it because of evidence rather than feelings. |
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"flirt69 will be along in a minute !"
Took me a little longer lol... everyone has their opinion. Astrology enlightens patterns and cycles at personal and mundane levels, they do not “cause” anything “the stars incline they do not compel”.
In regard to predicting the pandemic, French astrologer Andre Barbault did exactly that in 2012 |
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The influences from your bookcase are stronger than from the moon, which is much, much greater than from a star that may have ceased to exist long before your birth.
People misinterpret the strength of the power from the moon, because tidal movement appears incredible. It's just gravity. And an object nearby to you, even though it's small, will have a stronger gravitational effect on you than the moon ever does.
We have so many biases that distort how we perceive what's outside of us. 1 thing we would like is more certainty in our uncertain world - things that promise understanding and simplicity are thus attractive to us, influencing us to want to believe that they are real. That motivation doesn't make them any more so, unfortunately.
In ancient times, people wanted the same and to help create some order in a harsh world. They used what was phenomenal knowledge of the solar system and shaped it to acquire better control and certainty.
No rigorous studies have shown any evidence of astrology being effective. Perhaps they will in future. Until then, it's likely to be better to invest in systems with evidence behind them, rather than not. Or enjoy it for the relic that it is |
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"The influences from your bookcase are stronger than from the moon, which is much, much greater than from a star that may have ceased to exist long before your birth.
People misinterpret the strength of the power from the moon, because tidal movement appears incredible. It's just gravity. And an object nearby to you, even though it's small, will have a stronger gravitational effect on you than the moon ever does.
We have so many biases that distort how we perceive what's outside of us. 1 thing we would like is more certainty in our uncertain world - things that promise understanding and simplicity are thus attractive to us, influencing us to want to believe that they are real. That motivation doesn't make them any more so, unfortunately.
In ancient times, people wanted the same and to help create some order in a harsh world. They used what was phenomenal knowledge of the solar system and shaped it to acquire better control and certainty.
No rigorous studies have shown any evidence of astrology being effective. Perhaps they will in future. Until then, it's likely to be better to invest in systems with evidence behind them, rather than not. Or enjoy it for the relic that it is"
A long post which I’d suggest is based on very little actual research. However I do respect your opinion and I don’t need to convince anyone of the validity of astrology. Each one of us is free to believe whatever we see as valid and if use to us. However you comment as follows...
“People misinterpret the strength of the power from the moon, because tidal movement appears incredible. It's just gravity. And an object nearby to you, even though it's small, will have a stronger gravitational effect on you than the moon ever does.”
The Moon is a very small satellite of the Earth but its gravitational pull is pivotal to keeping Earth in the “Goldilocks zone” of our solar system. That is to say we are neither too near the Sun (or we would fry) or too far away (to cold) for life to exist. Without the Moon there would be no tides and so the seas and oceans would flood the land... just Gravity eh... maybe that’s why the word also means serious. Seems like having the Moon is a serious factor in our survival and certainly still is for all kinds of life. The Suns “apparent” movement gives us the seasons, also fairly pivotal to survival. These were the first planetary cycles that astrologers noticed thousands of years ago... astrology certainly has people that misrepresent it in modern times but that’s no different from science or any other subject. However as you say, we have freedom of choice in many things |
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By *aver999Couple
over a year ago
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Didn't you all know NASA found another sign Ophiuchus: Nov. 29 - Dec. 17! So what you thought you were was probably wrong, we have both moved signs, can't say that the new signs fit us any better than the last one!
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"Didn't you all know NASA found another sign Ophiuchus: Nov. 29 - Dec. 17! So what you thought you were was probably wrong, we have both moved signs, can't say that the new signs fit us any better than the last one!"
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"Didn't you all know NASA found another sign Ophiuchus: Nov. 29 - Dec. 17! So what you thought you were was probably wrong, we have both moved signs, can't say that the new signs fit us any better than the last one!"
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I acknowledge that the moon influences tides and that behavioural changes can be observed in animals and humans at full moon but I don't believe that the planets influence our future or personality. "
Totally agree with this.
I must admit I’m a stereotypical Leo in MANY ways though. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"If astrologers had predicted this pandemic I might be tempted to investigate further but as far as I know they didn't.
I acknowledge that the moon influences tides and that behavioural changes can be observed in animals and humans at full moon but I don't believe that the planets influence our future or personality. "
I did read of a an astrologer called Jessica Adams who did predict the virus in 2018 and the demise of Trump.
Could not find any evidence of this though |
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By *aver999Couple
over a year ago
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"Didn't you all know NASA found another sign Ophiuchus: Nov. 29 - Dec. 17! So what you thought you were was probably wrong, we have both moved signs, can't say that the new signs fit us any better than the last one!
I was Aries now i'm Piscies "
I know how have we managed to survive this long believing we are someone who we're not |
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The universe made us so it seems pretty obvious to me that there’s something to it. And thousands of years ago everyone could actually see the main constellations a lot clearer than we can with the naked eyeBecause there wasn’t any light pollution so they probably had a very good Knowledge of the stars. |
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"Didn't you all know NASA found another sign Ophiuchus: Nov. 29 - Dec. 17! So what you thought you were was probably wrong, we have both moved signs, can't say that the new signs fit us any better than the last one!
I was Aries now i'm Piscies
I know how have we managed to survive this long believing we are someone who we're not "
Stars don't lie  |
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"Didn't you all know NASA found another sign Ophiuchus: Nov. 29 - Dec. 17! So what you thought you were was probably wrong, we have both moved signs, can't say that the new signs fit us any better than the last one!
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Will they can sod it I've been Libra for the last 58 years ,and nothing's changing  |
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I suppose it's possible the stars have some effect on us when we're born, but I'm not sure we could ever confirm whether that's true or what the effect is. I keep wondering why all the dictators and serial killers in the world aren't all under the same star sign. |
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"Not interested in engaging with "HAAAA as if there are only 12 types of person in the world" replies
Anyone intrigued, puzzled by, compelled, interested in, studied, follows, mystified, relishes astrology?
Of course, how could anyone have correlated any kinda of system of stars to behaviour, its bonkers,and especially thousands of years ago.
And yet.. to me, it does seem like there is something there.
Full disclosure-
Leo sun, Libra moon, Gemini rising, Gemini venus, Cancer mars"
When I was younger I was obsessed by it, and like you say how they came up with it all, all those years ago. It’s really cool. |
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"Didn't you all know NASA found another sign Ophiuchus: Nov. 29 - Dec. 17! So what you thought you were was probably wrong, we have both moved signs, can't say that the new signs fit us any better than the last one!
Will they can sod it I've been Libra for the last 58 years ,and nothing's changing "
Your a Libra ( same as me)so I'm waiting for " but on the other hand "...c'mon where's the balance where ...where... where. |
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"Didn't you all know NASA found another sign Ophiuchus: Nov. 29 - Dec. 17! So what you thought you were was probably wrong, we have both moved signs, can't say that the new signs fit us any better than the last one!
Will they can sod it I've been Libra for the last 58 years ,and nothing's changing
Your a Libra ( same as me)so I'm waiting for " but on the other hand "...c'mon where's the balance where ...where... where."
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I always found this fascinating
Back in the 1990's,I went( once only) into a astrologers club meeting in a pub in Blackpool.An elderly lady was given a birth chart of someone to "read"...no clues.. anyway,she said to the people 'live',the person in chart was employed in writing...murder or death was involved...he was well known ( so not someone in the room !!) but she said he didn't seek the limelight. It was then reveled to be Steven King..I always found that interesting |
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"Didn't you all know NASA found another sign Ophiuchus: Nov. 29 - Dec. 17! So what you thought you were was probably wrong, we have both moved signs, can't say that the new signs fit us any better than the last one!
Will they can sod it I've been Libra for the last 58 years ,and nothing's changing
Your a Libra ( same as me)so I'm waiting for " but on the other hand "...c'mon where's the balance where ...where... where."
It's right around the corner |
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Is there not 13 star sign systems but one was just swept to the side because 12 was easier to work with? How many people actually fall in the 13th sign?
Also, the time it takes the signs to pass through our sky, or whatever way its worked out, is uneven because each sign covers a different sized area. So like Sagittarius takes for 7 days and Virgo 48 days. I would have always said that yes I'm a Gemini, but the more programs I see ion the subject the less I think people fit into star signs. |
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"Is there not 13 star sign systems but one was just swept to the side because 12 was easier to work with? How many people actually fall in the 13th sign?
Also, the time it takes the signs to pass through our sky, or whatever way its worked out, is uneven because each sign covers a different sized area. So like Sagittarius takes for 7 days and Virgo 48 days. I would have always said that yes I'm a Gemini, but the more programs I see ion the subject the less I think people fit into star signs. "
See further back in the post re the 13th sign (it’s not a sign it’s a constellation). No idea what you’re talking about re sadge and Virgo but this is the problem, people have an opinion but know nothing about it at all. Nothing astrologers aren’t used to though |
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"Is there not 13 star sign systems but one was just swept to the side because 12 was easier to work with? How many people actually fall in the 13th sign?
Also, the time it takes the signs to pass through our sky, or whatever way its worked out, is uneven because each sign covers a different sized area. So like Sagittarius takes for 7 days and Virgo 48 days. I would have always said that yes I'm a Gemini, but the more programs I see ion the subject the less I think people fit into star signs.
See further back in the post re the 13th sign (it’s not a sign it’s a constellation). No idea what you’re talking about re sadge and Virgo but this is the problem, people have an opinion but know nothing about it at all. Nothing astrologers aren’t used to though "
I randomly watched the new series about 'The Universe' on Netflix yesterday and in the 'Constellations' episode they mentioned a 13th sign and size of the constellations being incredibly different and how that would correlate to time such as our months which are relatively the same. Rather than time to pass in the sky which is where I think said it wrong, I think it was lightyears across with Sagittarius being 7 and Virgo 48 and by that I think the scientist dude said one star sign for example should have more influence and for longer than another. I don't know enough about astronomy or astrology to make any sort of informed comment, but I still comment nonetheless |
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"The influences from your bookcase are stronger than from the moon, which is much, much greater than from a star that may have ceased to exist long before your birth.
People misinterpret the strength of the power from the moon, because tidal movement appears incredible. It's just gravity. And an object nearby to you, even though it's small, will have a stronger gravitational effect on you than the moon ever does.
We have so many biases that distort how we perceive what's outside of us. 1 thing we would like is more certainty in our uncertain world - things that promise understanding and simplicity are thus attractive to us, influencing us to want to believe that they are real. That motivation doesn't make them any more so, unfortunately.
In ancient times, people wanted the same and to help create some order in a harsh world. They used what was phenomenal knowledge of the solar system and shaped it to acquire better control and certainty.
No rigorous studies have shown any evidence of astrology being effective. Perhaps they will in future. Until then, it's likely to be better to invest in systems with evidence behind them, rather than not. Or enjoy it for the relic that it is
A long post which I’d suggest is based on very little actual research. However I do respect your opinion and I don’t need to convince anyone of the validity of astrology. Each one of us is free to believe whatever we see as valid and if use to us. However you comment as follows...
“People misinterpret the strength of the power from the moon, because tidal movement appears incredible. It's just gravity. And an object nearby to you, even though it's small, will have a stronger gravitational effect on you than the moon ever does.”
The Moon is a very small satellite of the Earth but its gravitational pull is pivotal to keeping Earth in the “Goldilocks zone” of our solar system. That is to say we are neither too near the Sun (or we would fry) or too far away (to cold) for life to exist. Without the Moon there would be no tides and so the seas and oceans would flood the land... just Gravity eh... maybe that’s why the word also means serious. Seems like having the Moon is a serious factor in our survival and certainly still is for all kinds of life. The Suns “apparent” movement gives us the seasons, also fairly pivotal to survival. These were the first planetary cycles that astrologers noticed thousands of years ago... astrology certainly has people that misrepresent it in modern times but that’s no different from science or any other subject. However as you say, we have freedom of choice in many things "
I think
Astronomers regard the cosmos
Astrology pretends those observations micro manage human personality and behaviour
Astronomers can use their data to co consistently
and accurately predict positions and occurrence of stars tides eclipses, comets, seasons
An almonack illustrates this fact
Astrologers cannot use their their observations to consistently or accurately predict anything beyond statistical hit and miss
Astrology is a potentially negative belief concept as the person convinced is now open to having who they are manipulated by a meme
Humans love to spot patterns even when they dont exist
Astrology plays right into this psychological pathway
I cite many studies of random events being linked to alleged triggers,derren browns flashing light experiments for one
My take would be astrology is fascinating as an observation and insight of the human mind
Beyond that it has no validity or basis
I see both astrology and mediumship both as violations of trust and hope
In both cases a person with no right or qualifications is given cart blanch freedom to make life changing suggestions, recommendations and advice on the pretence they have a knowledge or insight that they absolutely do not
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"Is there not 13 star sign systems but one was just swept to the side because 12 was easier to work with? How many people actually fall in the 13th sign?
Also, the time it takes the signs to pass through our sky, or whatever way its worked out, is uneven because each sign covers a different sized area. So like Sagittarius takes for 7 days and Virgo 48 days. I would have always said that yes I'm a Gemini, but the more programs I see ion the subject the less I think people fit into star signs.
See further back in the post re the 13th sign (it’s not a sign it’s a constellation). No idea what you’re talking about re sadge and Virgo but this is the problem, people have an opinion but know nothing about it at all. Nothing astrologers aren’t used to though
I randomly watched the new series about 'The Universe' on Netflix yesterday and in the 'Constellations' episode they mentioned a 13th sign and size of the constellations being incredibly different and how that would correlate to time such as our months which are relatively the same. Rather than time to pass in the sky which is where I think said it wrong, I think it was lightyears across with Sagittarius being 7 and Virgo 48 and by that I think the scientist dude said one star sign for example should have more influence and for longer than another. I don't know enough about astronomy or astrology to make any sort of informed comment, but I still comment nonetheless "
You are entitled to comment but your comment is (like most) based on no knowledge of the subject or even a thorough read of this thread as I’ve posted a link above which explains the “13th sign”. Constellations and signs are different and astronomers tend to know very little about astrology or how it was developed but I’ll leave you to your opinion as I have mine |
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"Is there not 13 star sign systems but one was just swept to the side because 12 was easier to work with? How many people actually fall in the 13th sign?
Also, the time it takes the signs to pass through our sky, or whatever way its worked out, is uneven because each sign covers a different sized area. So like Sagittarius takes for 7 days and Virgo 48 days. I would have always said that yes I'm a Gemini, but the more programs I see ion the subject the less I think people fit into star signs.
See further back in the post re the 13th sign (it’s not a sign it’s a constellation). No idea what you’re talking about re sadge and Virgo but this is the problem, people have an opinion but know nothing about it at all. Nothing astrologers aren’t used to though
I randomly watched the new series about 'The Universe' on Netflix yesterday and in the 'Constellations' episode they mentioned a 13th sign and size of the constellations being incredibly different and how that would correlate to time such as our months which are relatively the same. Rather than time to pass in the sky which is where I think said it wrong, I think it was lightyears across with Sagittarius being 7 and Virgo 48 and by that I think the scientist dude said one star sign for example should have more influence and for longer than another. I don't know enough about astronomy or astrology to make any sort of informed comment, but I still comment nonetheless
You are entitled to comment but your comment is (like most) based on no knowledge of the subject or even a thorough read of this thread as I’ve posted a link above which explains the “13th sign”. Constellations and signs are different and astronomers tend to know very little about astrology or how it was developed but I’ll leave you to your opinion as I have mine "
Quite condescending?
"Based upon know knowledge of the subject"
When its said "knowledge of the subject" its reasonable to suggest that the only knowledge is with regards to mythical magic claims or the human invented doctrine
I have little knowledge about Harry Potter yet I know waving a wand will not turn a person into a fish
There is a vast difference between
Knowing and observation regarding the celestial bodies and movements
And a total human fabrication doctrine suggesting with zero basis that these factual observations have any link to a humans behaviour /personality/ future events
Suggesting astrology is complex and I do not understand it is no more convincing or indicative of anything than me declaring I have read in a book I know all about fairy wings they are intricate and change colour depending upon how many children are crying
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"Is there not 13 star sign systems but one was just swept to the side because 12 was easier to work with? How many people actually fall in the 13th sign?
Also, the time it takes the signs to pass through our sky, or whatever way its worked out, is uneven because each sign covers a different sized area. So like Sagittarius takes for 7 days and Virgo 48 days. I would have always said that yes I'm a Gemini, but the more programs I see ion the subject the less I think people fit into star signs.
See further back in the post re the 13th sign (it’s not a sign it’s a constellation). No idea what you’re talking about re sadge and Virgo but this is the problem, people have an opinion but know nothing about it at all. Nothing astrologers aren’t used to though
I randomly watched the new series about 'The Universe' on Netflix yesterday and in the 'Constellations' episode they mentioned a 13th sign and size of the constellations being incredibly different and how that would correlate to time such as our months which are relatively the same. Rather than time to pass in the sky which is where I think said it wrong, I think it was lightyears across with Sagittarius being 7 and Virgo 48 and by that I think the scientist dude said one star sign for example should have more influence and for longer than another. I don't know enough about astronomy or astrology to make any sort of informed comment, but I still comment nonetheless
You are entitled to comment but your comment is (like most) based on no knowledge of the subject or even a thorough read of this thread as I’ve posted a link above which explains the “13th sign”. Constellations and signs are different and astronomers tend to know very little about astrology or how it was developed but I’ll leave you to your opinion as I have mine
Quite condescending?
"Based upon know knowledge of the subject"
When its said "knowledge of the subject" its reasonable to suggest that the only knowledge is with regards to mythical magic claims or the human invented doctrine
I have little knowledge about Harry Potter yet I know waving a wand will not turn a person into a fish
There is a vast difference between
Knowing and observation regarding the celestial bodies and movements
And a total human fabrication doctrine suggesting with zero basis that these factual observations have any link to a humans behaviour /personality/ future events
Suggesting astrology is complex and I do not understand it is no more convincing or indicative of anything than me declaring I have read in a book I know all about fairy wings they are intricate and change colour depending upon how many children are crying
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"Is there not 13 star sign systems but one was just swept to the side because 12 was easier to work with? How many people actually fall in the 13th sign?
Also, the time it takes the signs to pass through our sky, or whatever way its worked out, is uneven because each sign covers a different sized area. So like Sagittarius takes for 7 days and Virgo 48 days. I would have always said that yes I'm a Gemini, but the more programs I see ion the subject the less I think people fit into star signs.
See further back in the post re the 13th sign (it’s not a sign it’s a constellation). No idea what you’re talking about re sadge and Virgo but this is the problem, people have an opinion but know nothing about it at all. Nothing astrologers aren’t used to though
I randomly watched the new series about 'The Universe' on Netflix yesterday and in the 'Constellations' episode they mentioned a 13th sign and size of the constellations being incredibly different and how that would correlate to time such as our months which are relatively the same. Rather than time to pass in the sky which is where I think said it wrong, I think it was lightyears across with Sagittarius being 7 and Virgo 48 and by that I think the scientist dude said one star sign for example should have more influence and for longer than another. I don't know enough about astronomy or astrology to make any sort of informed comment, but I still comment nonetheless
You are entitled to comment but your comment is (like most) based on no knowledge of the subject or even a thorough read of this thread as I’ve posted a link above which explains the “13th sign”. Constellations and signs are different and astronomers tend to know very little about astrology or how it was developed but I’ll leave you to your opinion as I have mine
Quite condescending?
"Based upon know knowledge of the subject"
When its said "knowledge of the subject" its reasonable to suggest that the only knowledge is with regards to mythical magic claims or the human invented doctrine
I have little knowledge about Harry Potter yet I know waving a wand will not turn a person into a fish
There is a vast difference between
Knowing and observation regarding the celestial bodies and movements
And a total human fabrication doctrine suggesting with zero basis that these factual observations have any link to a humans behaviour /personality/ future events
Suggesting astrology is complex and I do not understand it is no more convincing or indicative of anything than me declaring I have read in a book I know all about fairy wings they are intricate and change colour depending upon how many children are crying
Hope you have a mirror there "
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"Is there not 13 star sign systems but one was just swept to the side because 12 was easier to work with? How many people actually fall in the 13th sign?
Also, the time it takes the signs to pass through our sky, or whatever way its worked out, is uneven because each sign covers a different sized area. So like Sagittarius takes for 7 days and Virgo 48 days. I would have always said that yes I'm a Gemini, but the more programs I see ion the subject the less I think people fit into star signs.
See further back in the post re the 13th sign (it’s not a sign it’s a constellation). No idea what you’re talking about re sadge and Virgo but this is the problem, people have an opinion but know nothing about it at all. Nothing astrologers aren’t used to though
I randomly watched the new series about 'The Universe' on Netflix yesterday and in the 'Constellations' episode they mentioned a 13th sign and size of the constellations being incredibly different and how that would correlate to time such as our months which are relatively the same. Rather than time to pass in the sky which is where I think said it wrong, I think it was lightyears across with Sagittarius being 7 and Virgo 48 and by that I think the scientist dude said one star sign for example should have more influence and for longer than another. I don't know enough about astronomy or astrology to make any sort of informed comment, but I still comment nonetheless
You are entitled to comment but your comment is (like most) based on no knowledge of the subject or even a thorough read of this thread as I’ve posted a link above which explains the “13th sign”. Constellations and signs are different and astronomers tend to know very little about astrology or how it was developed but I’ll leave you to your opinion as I have mine
Quite condescending?
"Based upon know knowledge of the subject"
When its said "knowledge of the subject" its reasonable to suggest that the only knowledge is with regards to mythical magic claims or the human invented doctrine
I have little knowledge about Harry Potter yet I know waving a wand will not turn a person into a fish
There is a vast difference between
Knowing and observation regarding the celestial bodies and movements
And a total human fabrication doctrine suggesting with zero basis that these factual observations have any link to a humans behaviour /personality/ future events
Suggesting astrology is complex and I do not understand it is no more convincing or indicative of anything than me declaring I have read in a book I know all about fairy wings they are intricate and change colour depending upon how many children are crying
Hope you have a mirror there
Articulate and convincing explanation of what I've misunderstood thank you "
If I thought you had the slightest interest in understanding it I might be inclined to discuss. It’s quite obvious you don’t when you can’t even be bothered to read a previously posted link and it’s also rather obvious you’d rather regurgitate ill informed information in an aggressive way rather than in an open minded way. I have no desire to explain as I know what I’m talking about whereas I suspect you just seek to disagree in general. However you are entitled to your opinion, happy to respect that |
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"Donald Trump Gemini.born in New York...
Boris Kerfuffle Johnson.
Gemini.born in New York...
Astrology is scary stuff 
Lady Gaga. Gemini, born in New York.
Birds of a feather, they are.
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"Is there not 13 star sign systems but one was just swept to the side because 12 was easier to work with? How many people actually fall in the 13th sign?
Also, the time it takes the signs to pass through our sky, or whatever way its worked out, is uneven because each sign covers a different sized area. So like Sagittarius takes for 7 days and Virgo 48 days. I would have always said that yes I'm a Gemini, but the more programs I see ion the subject the less I think people fit into star signs.
See further back in the post re the 13th sign (it’s not a sign it’s a constellation). No idea what you’re talking about re sadge and Virgo but this is the problem, people have an opinion but know nothing about it at all. Nothing astrologers aren’t used to though
I randomly watched the new series about 'The Universe' on Netflix yesterday and in the 'Constellations' episode they mentioned a 13th sign and size of the constellations being incredibly different and how that would correlate to time such as our months which are relatively the same. Rather than time to pass in the sky which is where I think said it wrong, I think it was lightyears across with Sagittarius being 7 and Virgo 48 and by that I think the scientist dude said one star sign for example should have more influence and for longer than another. I don't know enough about astronomy or astrology to make any sort of informed comment, but I still comment nonetheless
You are entitled to comment but your comment is (like most) based on no knowledge of the subject or even a thorough read of this thread as I’ve posted a link above which explains the “13th sign”. Constellations and signs are different and astronomers tend to know very little about astrology or how it was developed but I’ll leave you to your opinion as I have mine
Quite condescending?
"Based upon know knowledge of the subject"
When its said "knowledge of the subject" its reasonable to suggest that the only knowledge is with regards to mythical magic claims or the human invented doctrine
I have little knowledge about Harry Potter yet I know waving a wand will not turn a person into a fish
There is a vast difference between
Knowing and observation regarding the celestial bodies and movements
And a total human fabrication doctrine suggesting with zero basis that these factual observations have any link to a humans behaviour /personality/ future events
Suggesting astrology is complex and I do not understand it is no more convincing or indicative of anything than me declaring I have read in a book I know all about fairy wings they are intricate and change colour depending upon how many children are crying
Hope you have a mirror there
Articulate and convincing explanation of what I've misunderstood thank you
If I thought you had the slightest interest in understanding it I might be inclined to discuss. It’s quite obvious you don’t when you can’t even be bothered to read a previously posted link and it’s also rather obvious you’d rather regurgitate ill informed information in an aggressive way rather than in an open minded way. I have no desire to explain as I know what I’m talking about whereas I suspect you just seek to disagree in general. However you are entitled to your opinion, happy to respect that "
Ah a personal attack thanks
So basically evasion by trying to assassinate my personality and project a guess about how I may or may not think
You suspect wrong I have zero need or desire to be contrarian
My mind is open to any data that can validate any claim regarding astrology and human behaviour
For example I can validate when the next high tide is at porthmadog and its height
I suggest there is no data the sky gives that universally applies to a specific group of humans
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"Is there not 13 star sign systems but one was just swept to the side because 12 was easier to work with? How many people actually fall in the 13th sign?
Also, the time it takes the signs to pass through our sky, or whatever way its worked out, is uneven because each sign covers a different sized area. So like Sagittarius takes for 7 days and Virgo 48 days. I would have always said that yes I'm a Gemini, but the more programs I see ion the subject the less I think people fit into star signs.
See further back in the post re the 13th sign (it’s not a sign it’s a constellation). No idea what you’re talking about re sadge and Virgo but this is the problem, people have an opinion but know nothing about it at all. Nothing astrologers aren’t used to though
I randomly watched the new series about 'The Universe' on Netflix yesterday and in the 'Constellations' episode they mentioned a 13th sign and size of the constellations being incredibly different and how that would correlate to time such as our months which are relatively the same. Rather than time to pass in the sky which is where I think said it wrong, I think it was lightyears across with Sagittarius being 7 and Virgo 48 and by that I think the scientist dude said one star sign for example should have more influence and for longer than another. I don't know enough about astronomy or astrology to make any sort of informed comment, but I still comment nonetheless
You are entitled to comment but your comment is (like most) based on no knowledge of the subject or even a thorough read of this thread as I’ve posted a link above which explains the “13th sign”. Constellations and signs are different and astronomers tend to know very little about astrology or how it was developed but I’ll leave you to your opinion as I have mine
Quite condescending?
"Based upon know knowledge of the subject"
When its said "knowledge of the subject" its reasonable to suggest that the only knowledge is with regards to mythical magic claims or the human invented doctrine
I have little knowledge about Harry Potter yet I know waving a wand will not turn a person into a fish
There is a vast difference between
Knowing and observation regarding the celestial bodies and movements
And a total human fabrication doctrine suggesting with zero basis that these factual observations have any link to a humans behaviour /personality/ future events
Suggesting astrology is complex and I do not understand it is no more convincing or indicative of anything than me declaring I have read in a book I know all about fairy wings they are intricate and change colour depending upon how many children are crying
Hope you have a mirror there
Articulate and convincing explanation of what I've misunderstood thank you
If I thought you had the slightest interest in understanding it I might be inclined to discuss. It’s quite obvious you don’t when you can’t even be bothered to read a previously posted link and it’s also rather obvious you’d rather regurgitate ill informed information in an aggressive way rather than in an open minded way. I have no desire to explain as I know what I’m talking about whereas I suspect you just seek to disagree in general. However you are entitled to your opinion, happy to respect that
Ah a personal attack thanks
So basically evasion by trying to assassinate my personality and project a guess about how I may or may not think
You suspect wrong I have zero need or desire to be contrarian
My mind is open to any data that can validate any claim regarding astrology and human behaviour
For example I can validate when the next high tide is at porthmadog and its height
I suggest there is no data the sky gives that universally applies to a specific group of humans
"
There was no attack but it’s within your own nature to perceive my observations and opinions (to which I am entitled like yourself) as such. Again I’d ask you to look in the mirror in regard to your own posts as to aggressive. Suggest what you please it’s an open forum |
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"Is there not 13 star sign systems but one was just swept to the side because 12 was easier to work with? How many people actually fall in the 13th sign?
Also, the time it takes the signs to pass through our sky, or whatever way its worked out, is uneven because each sign covers a different sized area. So like Sagittarius takes for 7 days and Virgo 48 days. I would have always said that yes I'm a Gemini, but the more programs I see ion the subject the less I think people fit into star signs.
See further back in the post re the 13th sign (it’s not a sign it’s a constellation). No idea what you’re talking about re sadge and Virgo but this is the problem, people have an opinion but know nothing about it at all. Nothing astrologers aren’t used to though
I randomly watched the new series about 'The Universe' on Netflix yesterday and in the 'Constellations' episode they mentioned a 13th sign and size of the constellations being incredibly different and how that would correlate to time such as our months which are relatively the same. Rather than time to pass in the sky which is where I think said it wrong, I think it was lightyears across with Sagittarius being 7 and Virgo 48 and by that I think the scientist dude said one star sign for example should have more influence and for longer than another. I don't know enough about astronomy or astrology to make any sort of informed comment, but I still comment nonetheless
You are entitled to comment but your comment is (like most) based on no knowledge of the subject or even a thorough read of this thread as I’ve posted a link above which explains the “13th sign”. Constellations and signs are different and astronomers tend to know very little about astrology or how it was developed but I’ll leave you to your opinion as I have mine
Quite condescending?
"Based upon know knowledge of the subject"
When its said "knowledge of the subject" its reasonable to suggest that the only knowledge is with regards to mythical magic claims or the human invented doctrine
I have little knowledge about Harry Potter yet I know waving a wand will not turn a person into a fish
There is a vast difference between
Knowing and observation regarding the celestial bodies and movements
And a total human fabrication doctrine suggesting with zero basis that these factual observations have any link to a humans behaviour /personality/ future events
Suggesting astrology is complex and I do not understand it is no more convincing or indicative of anything than me declaring I have read in a book I know all about fairy wings they are intricate and change colour depending upon how many children are crying
Hope you have a mirror there
Articulate and convincing explanation of what I've misunderstood thank you
If I thought you had the slightest interest in understanding it I might be inclined to discuss. It’s quite obvious you don’t when you can’t even be bothered to read a previously posted link and it’s also rather obvious you’d rather regurgitate ill informed information in an aggressive way rather than in an open minded way. I have no desire to explain as I know what I’m talking about whereas I suspect you just seek to disagree in general. However you are entitled to your opinion, happy to respect that
Ah a personal attack thanks
So basically evasion by trying to assassinate my personality and project a guess about how I may or may not think
You suspect wrong I have zero need or desire to be contrarian
My mind is open to any data that can validate any claim regarding astrology and human behaviour
For example I can validate when the next high tide is at porthmadog and its height
I suggest there is no data the sky gives that universally applies to a specific group of humans
There was no attack but it’s within your own nature to perceive my observations and opinions (to which I am entitled like yourself) as such. Again I’d ask you to look in the mirror in regard to your own posts as to aggressive. Suggest what you please it’s an open forum "
There you go again accusing me of aggression. Adhomin . Suggesting I need a mirror
Both are personal slights
I have only commented upon astrology as human invented snake oil with zero validity . I feel I can articulate why positively and confidently
You decided to not illustrate why I maybe wrong but try to suggest I'm a closed minded monster
My mind is exceptionally receptive to verifiable data
To date non has ever been presented beyond that of normal random distribution
All one finds as one explores deeper is a labyrinth of coincidence and human invented cliche
I'm sure if there was any truth behind the concept it could be illustrated without me needing a mind gawping open without scepticism to understand or validate ?
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"Is there not 13 star sign systems but one was just swept to the side because 12 was easier to work with? How many people actually fall in the 13th sign?
Also, the time it takes the signs to pass through our sky, or whatever way its worked out, is uneven because each sign covers a different sized area. So like Sagittarius takes for 7 days and Virgo 48 days. I would have always said that yes I'm a Gemini, but the more programs I see ion the subject the less I think people fit into star signs.
See further back in the post re the 13th sign (it’s not a sign it’s a constellation). No idea what you’re talking about re sadge and Virgo but this is the problem, people have an opinion but know nothing about it at all. Nothing astrologers aren’t used to though
I randomly watched the new series about 'The Universe' on Netflix yesterday and in the 'Constellations' episode they mentioned a 13th sign and size of the constellations being incredibly different and how that would correlate to time such as our months which are relatively the same. Rather than time to pass in the sky which is where I think said it wrong, I think it was lightyears across with Sagittarius being 7 and Virgo 48 and by that I think the scientist dude said one star sign for example should have more influence and for longer than another. I don't know enough about astronomy or astrology to make any sort of informed comment, but I still comment nonetheless
You are entitled to comment but your comment is (like most) based on no knowledge of the subject or even a thorough read of this thread as I’ve posted a link above which explains the “13th sign”. Constellations and signs are different and astronomers tend to know very little about astrology or how it was developed but I’ll leave you to your opinion as I have mine
Quite condescending?
"Based upon know knowledge of the subject"
When its said "knowledge of the subject" its reasonable to suggest that the only knowledge is with regards to mythical magic claims or the human invented doctrine
I have little knowledge about Harry Potter yet I know waving a wand will not turn a person into a fish
There is a vast difference between
Knowing and observation regarding the celestial bodies and movements
And a total human fabrication doctrine suggesting with zero basis that these factual observations have any link to a humans behaviour /personality/ future events
Suggesting astrology is complex and I do not understand it is no more convincing or indicative of anything than me declaring I have read in a book I know all about fairy wings they are intricate and change colour depending upon how many children are crying
Hope you have a mirror there
Articulate and convincing explanation of what I've misunderstood thank you
If I thought you had the slightest interest in understanding it I might be inclined to discuss. It’s quite obvious you don’t when you can’t even be bothered to read a previously posted link and it’s also rather obvious you’d rather regurgitate ill informed information in an aggressive way rather than in an open minded way. I have no desire to explain as I know what I’m talking about whereas I suspect you just seek to disagree in general. However you are entitled to your opinion, happy to respect that
Ah a personal attack thanks
So basically evasion by trying to assassinate my personality and project a guess about how I may or may not think
You suspect wrong I have zero need or desire to be contrarian
My mind is open to any data that can validate any claim regarding astrology and human behaviour
For example I can validate when the next high tide is at porthmadog and its height
I suggest there is no data the sky gives that universally applies to a specific group of humans
There was no attack but it’s within your own nature to perceive my observations and opinions (to which I am entitled like yourself) as such. Again I’d ask you to look in the mirror in regard to your own posts as to aggressive. Suggest what you please it’s an open forum
There you go again accusing me of aggression. Adhomin . Suggesting I need a mirror
Both are personal slights
I have only commented upon astrology as human invented snake oil with zero validity . I feel I can articulate why positively and confidently
You decided to not illustrate why I maybe wrong but try to suggest I'm a closed minded monster
My mind is exceptionally receptive to verifiable data
To date non has ever been presented beyond that of normal random distribution
All one finds as one explores deeper is a labyrinth of coincidence and human invented cliche
I'm sure if there was any truth behind the concept it could be illustrated without me needing a mind gawping open without scepticism to understand or validate ?
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I dont need my reasoning accorded thank you
If you agree that grand if you disagree that's also fine but an articulation of why and not just a declaration of "you are wrong " is always welcome
I'll start
I think the whole concept of stellar influences upon individuals as a rule based upon their birth date not only has no validation the contrary can be illustrated
I think "cusps" and "moon risings" as nuanced modifiers are no more than an intricate fabrication
I cite no , consistent evidence of any correlation and millions of anthropological brain studies to validate my conclusions
I guess you dis agree
Let's analyse the reasoning
Somebody will be wrong
I'm open minded enough to reason its it's possible to know
I'll also cite just as I do with medium ship IF there was a shred of truth it would not be a maybe we would ALL know
The fact the answer does not appear conclusive statistically weights the plausibility of astrology having basis to rather low
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"Donald Trump Gemini.born in New York...
Boris Kerfuffle Johnson.
Gemini.born in New York...
Astrology is scary stuff
Lady Gaga. Gemini, born in New York.
Birds of a feather, they are.
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No she isn't.Boen March 28th.Which makes her Aries...before Aries is pisces,after is Taurus,so nowhere near Gemini.She was born in New York."
Apologies, thought she was May.
Notorious BIG then.
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